Behind The Scenes at Laguna Seca With Pete Brock and Zak Brown

0:00Well, legendary driver, designer, constructor, the guy who made and built the car that just sold for 43 million bucks. The Shelby Daytona Pete Brock, my old friend, is back for a walk around that car. We're out on the road. This is a car week special in Zach Brown, the team principal, the man who runs McLaren F1, who also brings a lot of cars to race. We'll take a walk around his race cars. So we'll do a special Pebble Beach edition right after this. I'm the key in the world!

1:00And so much more for showtime. Press nothing. They're free 24-7. That is so fast. On Pluto TV, stream now. Pay never. From Monterey, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, car designer Pete Brock, and the CEO of McLaren Racing, Zach Brown, and now Adam Corolla. Brock, you're a firm of a firm. One of his legendary creations, Shelby Daytona. I know a lot about the car. You should know that in the Ford B Ferrari movie, whenever set, the apply would buck in the background whenever they're in Shelby's shop. That's Pete's creation. That's this car, but not this car. This car was Italy, right? Well, this car is a car that actually sold Ford to go with Shelby.

2:02Because it was the success of this particular car. That Ford looked over and said, it's the team that's winning. That's the clue we should be with. And that's why he hired Shelby. But the car was not accepted because it was not a quote Ford. And they had to, they were wanted to build up the GT40s. So the rule for homologation is, it's the chassis. It's not the body. So who figured that out? This is a re-skinned cobra. And normally you have to homologate, make, you know, 50 examples of it, but you already had the homologation done with the engine. Sorry. What happened is that cars had to be built, build 500 cars. All right. Now Ferrari was doing very well with wrecked car. They call the short wheelbase Ferrari. But as they went along about third or fourth year, the E types and the acid martens were beginning to catch up with them.

3:04So they had to make some changes to the car. But Ferrari didn't want to make any changes aerodynamically in the car because it was so successful. But the guys in the shop said, no, we can make a better Ferrari. They were working on the GTO body lines aerodynamically and they went on. They got better and better and better. And they finally showed them that the car was so fast with the new body on it that that was what they should do. But Ferrari didn't want to build 500 of those cars. So there was a wording in the rules that there was called an evolution of type that you could maybe change the grill a little bit or the wheel open or whatever. So he tried to trick the FIA into saying that his total new body was just an evolution of type. Right. And they said, no, no, no, we're not going to accept that. So Ferrari went around to every organizer of every race that he was going to run.

4:05And he said, if you don't call your representatives at the Commission Sport Team and allow them to make one off changes to the body completely, I won't bring my team. So they changed the rules that you could put a new body if you long as you had the original chassis that had been homologated. Right. He had no suspension that, you know, that Shelby had already done, you know, more than 500 AC AC aces. Right. So we were a lot and that was what I was trying to talk Shelby into. I said, look at the rules are wide open. We can build a new body on this thing for nothing and we can go out and smoke everybody. So this aluminum body, all aluminum bodies, right? And originally you made box like wooden box and stretchy aluminum, shape the aluminum. And then I think went to Italy at some point where they do a wire frame system. No, we actually did them. We sent the buck over there.

5:05Oh, you sent the buck to Italy. But the first time that they did it because they built it off the chassis, they did it pretty much by I. The Italians were just fabulous doing that. But we had made a mistake on the first chassis we sent over and the cow tube was made about an inch and three quarter to high. Consequently, the windshield was a little bit higher on it. So that particular Ferrari, excuse me, that particular Daytona had a roof line that was not like the other five cars. And there's six altogether. Six together, right? So one built at Shelby. Right. That was the first car. And there was a lot of resistance to building that car at them because everybody thought the whole, the whole idea of chopping off the tail and doing this yard and then it's shape was very ugly. So there was a lot of resistance on it. So it wasn't until Ken Miles came along and talked to Shelby and said, listen. If you look at the numbers on what Pete's trying to tell you, there's some. Let us do the car. So Shelby finally agreed to let us do the car.

6:08But there was no money. Right. So finally we got good year. Good year came in. We said, let us do a body for testing tires a new car. So they put up the money on it because we couldn't do it because if we put the money up that way and Ford said we're building something that's going to compete with Ford. They would not bid it happy. So Carol was trying to keep the whole program down. Didn't want Ford to know that we were doing something was concert of the Ford. And then of course, when the car went out and tested and it was so fast. Then Henry Ford looked at it after we won Seabroon with it, which was the second race. And he said, okay, let's follow through and keep putting some money behind this car until we get the GT 40 developed. Right. So in that first year. This car set the lap record on every track that we ran on. And the Ford didn't finish one race. The second year the GT 40 for out in this thing.

7:09They can't break down. Right. So at Daytona, you guys were in the lead and caught on fire. Right. Exactly. Yes. That was the very first car. That was the very first car. Yeah. And we were all three or four laps in the lead. We're just running away from it and back it all down. So we knew at that point that the car was going to be very successful. Right. And then we had a big error in the fire in the pits. And that left us off. And that was very, very important because we did not get any points at all. Our crew was telling Shelby, don't worry about it. You know, we can let the Ferrari's get a couple laps ahead. Whatever we can catch and beat him up. We'll fix the car, put it back and Shelby was so pissed. Because he'd actually caused the fire. Shelby caused the fire. So all because of the fire. Yeah. And as you make a chili. Well, what happened is he kept trying to tell the guys to refill the car. And the guys that said, Carol, we already refill the car. He's showing God damn it refill the car.

8:11And they said, it's refilled. And he said, God damn it. Fill it so they filled it in the cars. The fuel came out all over the car. Wow. So that's why he canceled. That's why he was so angry with the whole situation. He just canceled it. But the bad thing about it was we did not get one point. Right. Even if we'd finished third or fourth or fifth, we would have got a couple of extra points. Right. So at the end of the year when they totaled up all the points from all the races that we'd run, we were just that number short. We were about four points short. Oh, interesting. And if we'd finished even third or fourth, we still would have won the championship in the first year. But these things now, in terms of stories and value and stuff like that, this thing's supposed to go for in excess of $25 million. Which, you know, sounds like a lot for a car, but 34 GTOs. Ferrari, these things speed up on the GTOs, the GTOs. Right. They're $75, $80, $90 million. Yeah. They're only six of these.

9:11So if you're kind of looking at that way, you go, well, this is a bargain at $30 million. But I know these things raised for Alan Mann, I think. Alan Mann was actually the one that won the championship for us. And it's the first manufacturer's championship for Ford, right? Well, I went, technically it went to Shelby because his name was on the, the HD. But he didn't want to bring him back from Europe, right? Didn't care. He all he wanted to do was the Ford money and they said, look, we have to either pay taxes for bringing them in to England. And if we don't pay the taxes for bringing them in to England, we're going to put them on a barge and come out and dump them in the North Sea. And they call Shelby and said, look, they're going to throw the cars away. Right. If I don't care, don't put them in the North Sea. So Alan Mann out of his own pocket paid to have these cars sent back the United States. Thank God. If it hadn't been for Alan Mann, we wouldn't have. Alan Mann did that. And then Michael Mann made a really shitty Ferrari movie. So, you know, we're kind of even in the man department.

10:14But can we walk around this thing? Yeah, absolutely. Now, I love this story about you finding the old German drawings from the 30s and from your days of GM. And it's also great that everyone's now finally learning the story of these cars. But let's just walk around and look at it. I mean, it's the same wheelbase as a cobra, right? It's a standard cobra underneath. Standard wheelbase, everything's just a standard cobra. And now you've got to understand the standard cobra had a top speed of about 155, maybe 160 miles an hour. It's a very, very biz. So, ideal for American tracks. By just putting this body on it, we were able to just touch 200 miles an hour on it. No, from no horsepower, gains, no engine. Identical. Just the body change on it. Wow. So, we got almost 20 miles an hour faster just changing the body. Or, yeah.

11:14Yeah. And so, up front, you got oil cooler, I guess, maybe diff transmission cooler. Yep. Are these, what are these ducks for? This is actually, the car was very, very hot inside. One of the very first things that we learned when we ran the car, because there was no studies at all. So, the car was blisteringly hot at the inside. So, this particular slot here goes down directly on the driver's feet to keep his feet cool. These two go in here and keep the cockpit a little bit cooler. But it was still very, very hot car inside, because the wheelbase was so small on it, and it was all enclosed, and there didn't, though, fought really for internal aerodynamics at all. All I knew with that time was exterior. So, now I spend a lot of time thinking about interior airflow. Yeah. So, the drawing, I mean, what is the story of the European aerodrawings that you remember from your GM? Right. Well, you have to understand when I was working at General Motors' work in for Bill Mitchell on the Corvette thing,

12:18they had just put in the brand new library there at the GM Styling Center. And I'd go down there at lunchtime, and you could have a lot of four books at this time. I was about 20, just 20. I was 19 when I hired in at GM, and I was just 20 years old. I look at my son. So, he was 20 when he worked at GM. You're 20. Come on. What's up? So, anyway, and looking through all the books and stuff, I happened to find six sheets of memiograph paper looking and I looked them over and there are copies of the German white paper or technical paper. Now, I couldn't read any of the Germans up at all. But I could see there was a graph there and there were some crude drawings on the shape showing that the incredible increase in aerodynamic efficiency. So, I went upstairs and I tried to show to Mitchell. I said, you know, this is really remarkable. You know what he said, kid? That's the ugliest looking shit I've ever seen. Now, just go back and finish the Corvette.

13:20So, that was that window back then, right? Yeah. So, you remember that when you went to Shale. Oh, absolutely. I mean, the numbers were so radically different. I said, I've got to keep this. So, I made little notes on what it was there and I just put that in my pocket and said when the opportunity comes up. And then finally it came up and I tried to convince Shelby and of course he said, looks at anybody would know if you've had that information around since 1935 and nobody's ever used it. Yeah. It's obviously worthless and I said, Carol, the reason is in the war, nobody knew what was going on. And even the Germans had tried to convince the German manufacturers to build a car looking like this. And the Germans said the same thing. It's the ugliest looking car with this chopped off tail on the back here. Yeah, it was the big controversial thing on it. It really doesn't look all that much different than the Ferrari GTO, which is supposed to be the best looking car in the world.

14:21So, I don't get what the problem is, but it's this part, right? Yeah. And it's to fool the air, conventional wisdom is the boat tail that comes all the way back. Well, the main thing is what you're trying to do is trying to keep air attached to the body. Uh-huh. The minute that you begin to turn the air down more than seven degrees from horizontal, it begins to get turbulent across here. Uh-huh. So, if you do like a Ferrari and start with a high roof and go all the way back, it's turbulent all the way back. Right. So, the trick with this one was to keep the back end high and keep the air attached all the way. And that's what gives it the speed, it's keeping the air attached. Right. So, there's a minimum amount of turbulence. Now, if you go over and look at that Ferrari 917 over there, which is German designed with a big long tail on it. Oh, that's a 907. 917 L. Oh, that's a 917 L? Yeah. That's Seinfeld's car. I think that's a 917 L. The big one they're showing over there. Anyway, the Germans did the real long tail off because they thought that would be the best on the speed.

15:28Yeah, well, even, I don't know, Bugatti does the long tail now, doesn't it? Or is that, no. What? McLaren. Oh, McLaren does the, whatever. I don't know why McLaren doesn't figure this out. It's in 2026. But the Germans found out, as soon as the Pensiony had a whole little bit of a car on the course, they chopped the tail off and immediately it was a lot better handling car. It just tended to lift. It was way too long and there was too much air on the car. And this is, so there's a great story about, you know, this car coming back from Europe and shall we want to sell it to shop workers or whatever and no one wanted? Yeah. They wanted, I don't know, $3,500 for the car or something like that. Well, what happened first is that there was actually some testing going on up at Bonneville. Uh-huh. And... Oh, they brought one up to Bonneville.

16:28We took it up to Bonneville. Not this car. No, it was the number one car, the very first car. Yeah. So they took it up to Bonneville because Goodyear was doing some tire testing up there and they said, look, we can take this thing up there and set a bunch of records with it. Yeah, which Bonneville. So we took the car to Bonneville and we set 23 international FIA records with the car. Yeah. It's just, this is the only race car. We just put a new motor in it, put it on some fresh tires and set all these FIA records on it. So the car came back from Bonneville and it's covered with salt and it was so rough out there because they had to run out in the dirt part of the car. And the doors were falling off, the headlights were coming out. The thing was the total trash. So Shelby came down and looked at and he said, this is it. You want to buy this car, I'll sell it to you. You can have it. Oh, $800. $800. Now that's number one.

17:29We all turned it down because we knew that to take that car and put it back in the shape that it would have been. I mean, that's another 400 bucks. You know, yeah. Right. Well, that's number one. So that car theoretically is worth more than this car and that car is at the Simeon. Simeon is in the down. And Phil Adelph outside of Phil, I've been there. That's the car. The Phil Specter bought and drove on the street. Record producer. Then there's a whole crazy story. Right. To that car as well, which is for another episode. So are you going to be at this auction cheering this car? I wouldn't miss it. It's going to be I cannot wait for that time. This is 289 for down draft Weber identical to the roadsters identical to the roadsters. And you put the original one on a crash roadster, right? Or the body was messed up, but the chassis was okay. Well, that was the car that got crashed at the very first service side.

18:32So I just simply took the dimensions off that chassis. And then we had new chassis sent over from England. Oh, I see. The first two chassis were number 2286 and 2287 and 2287. And with the closest to the shop door, so we wheeled it in. So that became number one. Well, Pete is the grand marshal because they're doing a Japanese mark. It's kind of the mark of the weekend for the racetrack, which is a pretty exciting because in the past they wouldn't even let Japanese cars in to this thing, which was all German Ferrari and some Americans. So they turn their nose up at the Japanese stuff. But Pete hung around long enough to see a come full circle. And now he's grand marshal. I'm of course driving his BRE car and it brought the yellow car out there. I want you to see. Oh, I can't wait. The guy's the little guy with a gray hair. Sean brought it out.

19:34Yeah, he did a great job. He showed me a little shot of it. Sick and out of the back of your truck. I can't wait to see it. It's a good day. It's a good day to be Pete Brock. And we're going to go to the track now and honor Pete. Is there anything we're missing? Where do you think this car is? There's six cars. Where does this land in the value? Maybe the first one is probably the most valuable. I don't know historically exactly how much history this one has. Well, maybe each one has sort of won enough races. But actually, it's the car that Dan Gernie drove most that has the most about a win. So that car from the standpoint of historical races. Right. And Dan driving. Gernie, right. That's not this car. No. That's number. That's 2299. Yes. Thank you, Dale. Thank you, Dale. Thank you. Thank you. So we'll be rooting for this car.

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24:46It's a prerequisite. It's a must with the job. This is a crazy, crazy car. Now, I think Bruce McLaren probably died testing something like this at some point. Yeah, so let's end it on a good note. But let's let's let let me give you the story. So this is a 1970 M.A.D. Breast was killed in June at Goodwood in an M.A.D. Obviously that car was destroyed. They built this one. He had a car that was in Gourney, jumped in. One, two of three races. And then he had a sponsor conflict. Golf and he was in Sanoco or something like that. So then they took him out of the car for Red Sin in. And then Denny Holm was the teammate who won the championship. So this car won a championship. Hillborne injection. Big block. Chevy. I don't know what it was. Eight-leater, 850 horsepower. Wow. Four thousand pounds of torque or 10,000 pounds of torque. What's the thing way?

25:48Not much. And I actually don't know how much it weighs. But that's a good question. All it is, you start taking all the bodywork off, is I'm strapped into a fuel cell with an engine. Yeah, it's just kind of monocop. You can say what's that. And so it looks made, but this is all fiberglass stuff. This, I went faster in this than I did. The next car we'll talk about, which is a group C. This thing is just a monster in the straight line. Yeah. The physicality of it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, because you can light up the rear tires anytime you want. Yeah. So you got to really feather it coming out of the car. And then Gernie, because he was tall, had the extra rule who. Yeah. That's his Gernie bubble. Yeah. I added one of those to my dots in 2,000 roadster that's parked in front of the driver's profile in two, because it's a little extra. Little extra. Little extra. So Gernie's as fast as me, but I'm just saying we both have the same engineering background. So this is great. This is amazing. So you brought the K&M car. You brought the Silcut 12-cylinder Jag.

26:49Yep. And where is this Swap Shop? 935. That is not here this weekend. So I have the Zielda Faren, which is the first time I've ever driven it at a championship car. Was that an Indie car? Indie car. Wow. And then I am within the Iraq race. I have my cars over there in the Iraq tent, which is a Kaili Arbrew, one at Riverside in 1978 and Walter Pohon in the 80s. So I love the Iraq. International race of champions. It reminds the old school yellow summer. And a lot of hard charging young bucks in that race, because a lot of ringers that are professional driving. And now they're still here. They're just old bucks. But they think they're young bucks. We've had on the track. No, I mean in the race here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. Yeah, yeah. That's guys are tough. That's cool being on the track. It's like, there's Jimmy Johnson. There's Scott Brut. There's Jeff Gordon. Jimmy Johnson's in my race. Do you see? Yeah.

27:49And he knows what he's doing. Chanson's button as well. We got a few ringers. I don't know if you want to offer. So, all right. So you got this. We got the Silcut. We got the Iraq. We got the Indie car. Where's the car? Are you bringing all these parts out from Europe? Yeah. Load them all out. So you got a container ship every car out. Yeah. And then you got to do this. My crew there. And then you got to do a crew. Lagoon is very kind. They give me this garage every year, which is the Bruce McClaren garage. I'm definitely not a coincidence. Yeah. And then I bring out some of the McClaren crew, my United Autosport team, which is running our world endurance team when we go back to Le Mans. Next year. Oh. Yeah, you're going back to Le Mans. So, I mean, coming from North Hollywood, California, or I hail from, and running an F1 team, which is so exotic and so European.

28:49And I don't know what could be further away from Van Aus. From Van Aus, Sherman Aus, North Hollywood, Valley Millage. Europe, McClaren, F1. I mean, it is a million miles away from that upbringing you have. It just makes your story so incredible. And I know you went through, start with Indy and Major Wade and McClaren. First of all, how do you even get this weekend off? Like, I don't even know what to do. Well, so what's nice is these two weekends, right? There's a pre-reunion last weekend. Yeah. It's just always formal one summer shutdown. Oh. So, it's like, I've been coming. My first year was 1989. Not driving, but just coming. Right, right. And I don't think I missed it since. I won't miss it. It's my vacation time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's such a...the track is great. The people are great. The cars are great. The auctions are great. The auctions are great. The auctions are great. You get to hang around with like-minded car people. Like hard people. Like hard people. Hard people. Hard people. Hard people. Yes. It's hard to explain to people who is, but I will tell you this.

29:49We will recognize who is and who isn't. We can spot them in Milo-Wess. And this van is hard-core. All right, should we look? Well, maybe just walk around the back. Let's check this out. Let's check this out. Well, this one, unfortunately, I had on pole. Yeah, on pole. I was leading by eight seconds. Eight seconds. It was kind of lap time. 126. That's cooking. And three laps to go. Drive shaft broke. Oh, camshaft. Yeah, coming out of the box. Wow. So I'm done for the weekend. I feel like Michael and Drini. Most laps led, but haven't won. Because I had a break issue last weekend while leading. Wow. So it's fast, I love it. But unfortunately, reliability. So this is a transaxle car. Yeah. Hewlin maybe. Yeah, I don't know. It is a Hewlin gearbox. No, it's not a Hewlin gearbox. 5 speed? 4 speed.

30:494 speed. But you don't need it. You got so much torque though. And the gearbox uses third and fourth. Third and fourth. Right. Right. Wow. 125. And so I will tell you. It's fast. That's a very fast lap on this track. Wow, this thing. It's cool and garnt. And it's a cool piece. Yeah, that's our papaya. Yeah, it's your color. I mean, it's perfect. It's perfect except for the half shaft. And what's cool, I just got the hot wheels obviously. It's a thing we all play with. I just got from Don the Snake Prado. It is 1978. We remember when we were a long beach and he came over. Yeah. And I was asking about the car. Yeah. Closed on it this week. All this guy. But I heard him in the championship car. I'm going to drive that thing. That thing is great. There is no. Everyone got to see it. All the collection and then they're going to go. I'm going to bring it to Europe. They're going to go, what the hell is that thing? What's it cost to ship a car from Europe to here? About 30 grand in the car. 30 grand is that much? Yeah, it's not. Well, you got to go both ways. Oh, yeah, they're back. Yeah. Yeah. I can just look after this one.

31:49So this thing. I can leave this in your shop. So this ran, started life as an XJR7. Then became an 8, which was just some different bodywork. Uh-huh. This one, like four or five races in period is Group C, which was obviously the emceiversia. Yeah. And started life as a V12 and then later went on to V6 twin turbos, which were the castural. Yeah, yeah. Oh, the castural. Yeah, so this is the silk kind. Yeah. You know what silk cut is? Is it a silk or a silk? Oh, silk or a silk. Okay. The castural is a famous livery silk cuts, famous. But the naturally aspirated V12, you know, that's when everyone thinks of an exact. Yeah. And it's not light. I don't know. This way, but it's a lot more than that. It's all aluminum though. Yeah. I don't know. That's aluminum block. Uh, pass. I don't know. It may be, it may not. It may be in period. Maybe not a little bit of block, but maybe now.

32:50What they highly need to get better at is the mechanical. Everyone assumes because I'm an F1. I mean, start talking about technical stuff. I look at them and go to my arrow department. Sometimes turns the arrow chart upside down to see if I wreck it. It's upside down. Well, I mean, the argin is pretty tricky. Pretty practical. This time, I'm amazing. Oh, I mean, it's, I don't know, five liters of that. Or something. And lots of downforce. And it lots of downforce. And just rents like that. That's injected naturally after a long time. So. Rosetta Stone, learning a language is a cool way to impress people at a dinner party or be connected with the world around you. Good news. Rosetta Stone just came out with Rosetta Stone's Sapphire. Their biggest launch in over a decade. It takes their famous research-backed methods and adds new cutting-edge features. Rosetta Stones. Great. Because you're not sitting there and memorizing vocabulary.

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37:02I was showing me I was looking at the fans, you know, in the front. And I was like, what's that for? It's a driver's feet. You know, what's that? The other that said it was too high inside the Shelby Daytona. But yeah, at a certain point, it's not all about brake cooling. You got to have the guy who's applying the brakes. You could imagine these guys were going 24 hours in this thing. Oh my god. I did 25 minutes in need oxygen. I am so I'm so gassed out after 25 minutes of driving at Dots. A lot of shitbox. It is kind of not so many pictures. This guy's doing endurance racing. I think people don't race. Don't have a full appreciation for how physical these things are. Well, you know what it is like. I mean, what I'm saying is you and I are true athletes. That's what I'm not just saying. That's what I'm saying. You're not used to concentrating for prolonged periods of time. I put a little bit of it up for more than 10 seconds at a time. But if I'm not in the go. You watch TV for like 40 seconds and you look down to phone and you look bad.

38:02But you don't know it's like to not look around for, you know, 40 minutes at a time. So fuel on both sides. Yep. Big B12 lump cooling for the for the brakes. Everything on this is big. And this car one. This one. This one. This one. This one. Italy. Spain. One in Japan. So this would not have run Le Mans. They had special cars strictly for Le Mans, which were a little bit longer and longer, different era. And, and, uh, McLaren's coming back to Le Mans. We are. And you're coming back to what class? I have a car top class. So the top. So the overall. You're going for the overall winner. That would be this year. Uh, towards the next. Next. Next, next. So we just completed our first 30 hour test, which went really well. So we're trying to go in the other. No, you can't get on the big track.

39:02Yes, sure. Um, so we needed in, uh, in Spain. And the idea and everyone's like, well, we've done 30 story for our race. We actually want to run till stuff breaks. Right. We want to know. And that's, that's a hybrid car. Hybrid car. V, V6 turbo. Two turbo. Yep. It looks, looks amazing, but, but not a whole lot of displacement. No, right. No, it is, it's the engine powering the motors or say engine turn in the wheels with the motors. And, you know, there's no, so you're not in the any curves or anything of that nature. So you've got the hybrid. So what's interesting is it runs off an electric motor up to 60 miles an hour. So you'll hear it pull out of the pit lane. Uh-huh. And it's all electric and then, and then the ice kicks in. Wow. Not really an engine formula. Right. And it got balanced with performance. Wow. So, uh, so you're, your, your goals, the triple crowd. 100%. That's. We won Monaco last year. We won Monaco last year.

40:02And we won the triple crowd before, but we won it in three different decades, which was kind of three different teams. Right. Now that we got, we're back to our famous papaya. We want to win it in the papaya era. Right. And so we won last year. We've been second twice at Indies. We're going to win Indie. And then of course, Lamal before when we won we won in 74 was our first Indie. 84 was our first Monaco 95. We won on our debut in Lamal. 74 Indie. Uh, McLaren. Johnny Rutherford. Got it. Yeah, I would have guessed McLaren joined later than that. Now, seven seven. And Penske's first win was in a Penske chassis with Mark Dunnett. Wow. Mark Dunnett, who people can't am and legend and legend and Porsche and and and uh and Transam and in Camaro. So he's got his cars out here. That's bitching. All right.

41:02So now we get to Indie. Now we get to some real fast stuff. So 2001, uh, Rain or Chassis, but you were allowed to modify it. So this is Roger Penske's team. So they called it a Renski. Uh-huh. As there was kind of deliver a Rain art and then Roger do what Roger does to it, which was different bodywork, chrome suspension, uh, Jelda Farrin. Great friend. Past away. Uh, worked for uh McLaren. Uh-huh. He won the championship this in 2001. Uh, it has the Speedway configuration on it. So we're going to be going to the road racing rings coming. So different. Yeah. Um, this is the sister car to what he did the fastest ever lap. 241 miles an hour. Wow. So this thing will go 241 miles an hour. I'm not going to try that today. Uh, Honda V6. Honda V8 to V6. I'm going to V6.

42:02I think you're right. It's 6. I don't know. Um, turbo. Money, money, money. 1000 horsepower. 1000 horsepower. John is six or eight. Six or eight. Eight. He's right. I was right. You don't hear a lot about Honda V8. And John is the one responsible for putting this together for us works for Roger. And I was just getting into the Honda V8. Two point six leaders. Sure. I don't know what is it. I don't know. Is it if you don't know, it's a little $2,000 horsepower. But what? 16,000 RPM. 16,000. 16,000. That's going to get a genius. Six, but you shifted 15 and five on this, right? Yeah, I was doing more like 12 today. John, why else did you do to this to make it a Ren ski bodywork? Yes, all of it. So the only thing we're in are about the cars of Tony. And any of you we did. We did everything else. Make the headers the wow, wow, wow. All legal.

43:02All legal. Well, of course. Wow. Doing that, but. So a lot of heat ramping going on here, there, I don't know, some kind of adjustable sway, some kind of air. Yeah, yeah. From the roll bars. Yeah. I hate to take the curve bar, but I mean, I don't know what it is, sway bar, but whether that's adjustable in here. Yeah, I got a knob in my car, and I said, I don't touch it. It's too, like, true stuff's going on. I'm lost, like, you think you're good enough to go. I'm dialing and a little bit of understeer oversteer. Although it sounds cool. So wait, when do you take this out? I just drove it for the very first time, 30 minutes ago, and I'm going to take it out again tomorrow. So because this weekend is celebrating Japanese, you got the Honda, and I got this directly from Roger, because this is a very special driver at all. Do you own this car? I do. I do. So what kind of lap times can you do in this car? I meant this would probably do a 105?

44:04Really? Yeah, not me. It can do. Yeah, what can you do in it? 115. That's cooking, man. It's fast, fast enough. Super fast. And don't do the, and I need the right wing. That's my excuse. Yeah, not enough. There's not enough, like, no downforce. No, this is in the 241 setup. But what a great car. Sequential gear box. Sequentials, the cool. Those are my favorite. But on the, no, that's all different. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. That's what I thought. It's down there. Yeah, sequential. And the clutch, no lift shift. Oh, man, no lift shift. You just clutch it out of the pit. Clutch it out of the pit. It's only stolen once. Wow. That's bitchin. And you got your, I don't know. Pop off out. This is not pop off out. But this is kind of crazy, because it's kind of, like a blower, weirdly. They let me just a plan on that gas. Yeah. And they, they, you think they're a lot bigger than they are. And then we kind of start disassembling. I mean, actually the engine is not very, no.

45:05But by the time you remove all this stuff. Yeah. Absolutely incredible, Zach Brown. You, my friend, are hardcore. This is a good toy store. Yeah. All right, so we'll see you out. We'll see you Saturday night. 100% we will. And we'll see you out here tomorrow. More cars. More cars. Exactly. That was great. Cool. You can leave us a voicemail at 888-634-174-4 and get tickets to CBAsman at AdamPurola.com. Hello, and welcome to Pluto Fo. If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see, just stream it for free on Pluto TV. We're all your blockbuster favorites are landing all summer long. Catch anchor man, the legend of Ron Burgundy. Fantastic. The Matrix trilogy. Welcome to the real world. Mean girls. Side up. Tite and in. From the key in the world. And so much more for showtime. Press nothing.

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