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Hello, hello, hello, our wonderful audience. We have a treat for you today. I think that we'll all be interested in what we're going to hear today. Our guest is Alex Newman. Alex was kind enough to jump in two minutes ago because we had a a a tangle with another guest where we had to to find someone else to fill this recording slot real quick while we had a moment. We are pre recording. It's noon. I'm not awake yet folks. So we'll see what we can do with this hour, but Alex is on top of his game as usual. Alex Newman is the founder of Liberty Sentinel. And that is a internet news outlet, which is really worth following. It's the it's really one of the must check out news outlets.
Alex is one of these courageous journalists who actually goes out and covers in person the WHO the World Health Organization. He goes to the United Nations meetings. And I just found out he went to Burning Man this year. I can't believe it. That is so courageous. And I think I want to start with talking about that because although burning man sounds like just this sort of outlandish crazy sort of return to the hippie world type of an event. It's actually an expression of such evil. And I'd like to cover that because most of us don't know a thing about burning man. We look at it and go, oh, well, that's ridiculous. I have to go to work. And we we we brush it off as some sort of foolish thing. It's not folks. It really epitomizes an aspect of a portion of our society and those in our society, which is really dangerous. So Alex, hi. Thank you so much for coming on.
Oh, thank you for having me. It's an honor to be with you guys. Just really, really appreciate the opportunity to join you. So thanks for having me. I want to add just a few things. I always learned from Mr. Newman always give me to. And he is, I think, one of the clearest most sound voices on the air today, anywhere. And just a good man and a thoughtful thinking true seeker. We have great admiration for him. And these are one of these good friends we have whom we never see because I don't travel. And the health reasons not panichrist has anything.
And because ginger won't travel. Yeah, it's exhausting. And so between the two of us, I'm under or medical orders, not to travel and ginger hates traveling. And the Yorkie says she won't travel anymore either. So now they're getting up on the two against one. So all that is an introduction. What it's like to have really good friends. People I would just love to see regularly like Alex and we just don't have a chance we live on different parts of the country. It's a big country and I don't go to conferences. But we're blessed. We've got friends all over the world and we get to see them. They're just as zoom or a phone call away. So well, Alex, blow our minds. You've already started to tell us a little give a give us simple introduction for people to understand what is burning man. Well, thanks again guys. It's such an honor to be here and I'm so grateful for your work.
So burning man is really difficult to put into words. We probably asked 100 people on camera. What is burning man? And we got 100 wildly different answers. And some of them get mad at the answers that others are offering. So we had one guy tell us burning man was a festival. And we had other burners say it's absolutely not a festival anybody who says that doesn't know anything about burning man. It is a city. The city pops up in the middle of the Black Rock desert one of the most inhospitable places in the world, not a blade of grass grows there. And in this city, they have a week of everything from very bizarre art to very, very bizarre pagan rituals to massive amounts of electronic dance music. You pick what is consumption of drugs, everything from hallucinogenic drugs, magic mushrooms, dimethyl atryptamine to cocaine to ecstasy, enormous amounts of drinking.
And it all culminates with what they call the burning of the man. And so this began 40 years ago on a beach in San Francisco, a guy called Larry described it initially. It was something to do with his girlfriend, but he described it as a rebirth ceremony. It was on the solstice. So there was already this very strong pagan element right from the very beginning, kind of old testament stuff. You know, the whole time we were there, I just kept thinking like, this is probably what came and looked like before Israel showed up. You know, just blatant paganism. And these people will tell you they're communicating with spiritual entities, they're taking magic mushrooms and commuting with these entities and getting insights. A lot of them will tell you they are God. So there's a really strong religious element to it, but it culminates with the burning of this man. And to the uninitiated, it just a... Fogy of the man. An Fogy of the man, yes, exactly. This one was about 110 feet tall, I understand. It was standing on a very large wooden platform. And you could go visit it. I mean, we walked up to the top of it before it was set on fire. It was a dust storm. So you couldn't see, you know, 10 feet, but there was naked people up there. It was weird stuff.
But on the Saturday night, they back everybody up and they set it on fire. There's a firework show. And this thing goes up in flames. And people shout and they scream and they party and they videotape. And then as soon as the fire marshal's... Fire marshal and his men give the word, these people start by the thousands. They rush in. And they get to within a few feet of the remaining fire after the whole thing collapses. And they rip off their clothes. And they dance around. And they engage in very perverted sex acts that I can't describe here, because you don't know who's listening. You know, we don't want the FCC to get upset, but just things that you would never want to see. And there are children there. There are actually naked children at Burning Man. We observed multiple naked children running around the place. And they start doing weird sex things. And they fall asleep there. And they wake up the next morning and they try to get souvenirs out from the thing.
So that's kind of the climax of the whole thing. And if you talk to these people, they all kind of ascribe their own spiritual significance to it. And then the following day, they burn the temple. So right beyond the man, if you go out another, I don't know, half a mile or so into the deep desert, they call it the deep playa. They have a big temple. And in this temple, people bring like ashes from a dead loved one, a picture of their dead dog, their wedding dress, the memories they want to get rid of, memories that they want to give to the gods. And then they set the whole temple on fire. The next day, this is Sunday night. And about 10 minutes into the burning of the temple, they start howling to the moon. Some of them, and this was different from the burning of the man. It's very quiet. It's very somber until the howling to the moon starts. And we had to leave after that. It was just, it was the most bizarre thing. But there are things there that are not necessarily wicked and perverted. You know, there's like fun displays. People give you, there's no money allowed there. Everything they call it a gifting economy.
They have new moral principles. They have what they call the 10 principles of burning man, radical inclusion, which includes apparently everyone except Christians. They kicked a group of Christians out of there for preaching and baptizing people. They literally use the police and their fake police, the, they call the Black Rock Rangers to escort them out. They give them three hours to pack up their tent and leave. Oh, I saw they had TikTok videos. The Christians did baptizing. I think they said hundreds of people. And so this was actually happening as we were waiting in line to get in there. So we weren't able to catch up with the, with the guys that got kicked out until after we left burning man, we caught up with them and we know we've got an amazing interview with them that we will be dropping in the weeks to come. But it's interesting because you can engage in orgies and drug use and, and any kind of blasphemous mockery of the Bible, Christianity, Judaism doesn't matter. But the moment you, you say, you know, Jesus or, or, you know, 10 commandments suddenly you're, you're ostracized, you're terrible. One of the guys we saw who was preaching.
This was after the main group of Christians was kicked out, but there was another guy that preaching by the burning man. And within minutes a guy comes up with a microphone and a, and a amplifier and starts hollering about we must worship bail, we bail needs more baby blood, sacrifice. And we didn't know if he was kidding. If he was like possessed by a demon, you can't put into words what we experienced. So we were there for about five days. We're still trying to process the experiences. They call it decompression. When you leave there, it takes a few days to readjust to normal society. So we're in that process right now. I'm still trying to make sense of everything we saw. But we're going to be releasing a lot of footage in the weeks to come. But I want to share with people real quick ginger and Peter why this is so important because the perception of this is that it's just a bunch of hippies and weirdos that go out to the desert to party and take drugs. And that that's almost like the cover story. What's really happening there is the creation of a new culture, the creation of a radical new system that they hope will eventually supplant the remnants of what you might call Western civilization, Judeo Christian moral values, right.
The old system and that would be bad enough if it was just a bunch of hippies doing this. But the people who come there and this is the key thing to understand these are the people who build the world that we are all moving into. These are the CEOs of the big technology companies, Mark Zuckerberg, Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google got his job by going to Burning Man and Google acknowledges this when you ask. We ran into Grover Norquist there. I mean, this is a kingmaker in Republican party politics. He's one of the top Republican political operatives. He was a senior advisor to multiple Republican presidents. He gets legislation through Congress. He's kind of on the libertarian edge of Republican party politics. But right after Burning Man, he was headed to the Republican convention in Dallas. So it gives you a sense of the kind of people who come here. You had senior officials from the European Union. You had big waves from the world economic forum coming in just openly saying this is the new world order we're going into. Here's the economic, the political dimension. You had the high priest of the Church of psychedelics, the Church of Ambrosia. We sat in a lecture by him where he said he was encouraging everybody to take large amounts of hallucinogenic mushrooms so that they could communicate with these entities that were collecting souls and so that they would realize that they are God experiencing itself.
I mean, openly, absolutely openly. You had a guy there who was channeling a spirit, the cosmic cowboy and was allowing the crowd to ask questions of this spirit. You had witches and sorcerers and it's so much to unpack. Is it some kind of a cleansing that you should do after you're at something like that? I mean, I keep thinking of just been watching the chosen and one of the rituals is that after certain times of the month or if you've touched a dead body or something else, you have to go and cleanse yourself in the sea. And I immediately thought there really should be a cleansing for those of us like you who are simply going there in order to investigate and when you leave. Yeah, I'll tell you the nicest shower I've had in my entire life, the physical cleansing was when I got out of that. We were covered in dirt. I mean, the water running down off my head was literally brown. I shampooed three times and brown dust just kept flowing down. It was unbelievable.
Is clean water? No, no, there's nothing. There is nothing you bring everything, including water. They do have portapoddies there, which are filthy and vile and. But yes, the spiritual cleansing, I think that's the really the biggest thing. I went with a group of guys, different varieties of Christians who are with me on this mission. And there was at least four or five Christian camps there, all with kind of different ideas of what we should be doing there, how people should think about this. There were some Christians who were participating. We ran into a girl with a I love Jesus hat who was running around giving everybody hugs and saying, Jesus loves you. And I didn't ask her, but I would bet anything that she was on some sort of very intense drug induced experience. Then we met other Christians who were there to preach. There were Jews there, self proclaimed Jews who had kind of a Shabbat thing on Friday. And it was difficult to tell whether it was mockery or serious.
There were some Christians there helping them and kind of defending them because there was a lot of the pro Palestine, pro Hamas stuff. There was more Palestine so-called flags there than any other. A lot of them were flying next to transgender flags. And so there was all these like proxy battles within it. The Russians versus the Ukrainians, the Iranians and the Persians, the Israel Jews and the Hamas and Islam and all these competing battles. Politics did not get left at the door. Oh no. In fact, the first guy that we interviewed while we were waiting to pick up our tickets, this was fascinating. The first guy that we talked to there, he started telling us that his first burn was the one in China. Because the mother ship is this one that we just went to, but they have satellite burns. You could think of them like church plants around the world. And the first one he went to was in China. It was like, what was that like? He said, oh, what was a lot like this one. There's a few more controls. You're not allowed to run around naked and things. But you know, that was pretty similar. And then he says to us, this was fascinating. The values of Burning Man are actually very much in alignment with the values of communism. And that's what? What are you talking about? He said, well, you know, civic responsibility and inclusion. And we all take care of each other.
So there's a strong political element. There's a cultural element. There's a spiritual religious element. And it all blends together into this new culture. And Nicole Shanahan, who I know you guys are familiar with, she ran as a VP for Robert F. Kennedy. She did a book. She used to be a faithful burner. And she did a book where she talks about some of this stuff. And she said she had never seen this coming together of powerful forces from the political, the economic and the cultural and the religious realms anywhere else. So the people that are designing the tech companies that are basically determining what billions of people are going to see for hours on end every day. These tech companies that are now merging with governments like Palantir, these are the people who are behind this thing. So that's the significance of this. The people who are building the modern world are the people who are behind this burning man thing. Wow. It's astounding. Absolutely astounding. Is this changing your worldview in any way? And what we should all be doing? What the Peter and Ginger should be doing?
What we should be aware of and what we should investigate? Well, you know, one of the things that everybody there talked about was how you are transformed by going to burn it. Okay, and I know we're coming up on the break here. So there is a transformative element of this. For me, it reconfirmed what I already knew and made it more real. This is what I assumed was going on behind the scenes, but to watch it in real life was astounding. And we can pick up on the side of the break. You know, how do we deal with this? What should we do about it? But just suffice it to say it was mind blowing. And it's largely an openly satanic. A lot of the people there would not call it satanic. They would call it new age. They would call it spiritual. But there's a demonic element that runs through all of it 100%. Okay. Well, we'll be right back in just a minute with the, with Alex Newman, with Alex Newman, a liberty sent. I like to call wonderful Alex Newman. Yes. Okay, we'll be right back during treatment city tap water molecules structure gets messed up so your cells can't fully absorb it. Yes, we have to purify our water.
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Now is our time my fellow Americans America out loud dot news liberty and justice for all. We're back on the Reagan hour with Dr. Peter Bregan and Ginger Bregan and our wonderful guest Alex Newman Alex the the thing that I have trouble wrapping my mind around not that it's there the demonic aspect. But why I mean I guess it's why why is that such a significant piece and we've seen this especially it's almost like the mask is off since covid we've been taunted by things like six six six and other things that that reveal that there's genuinely a demonic element or that.
The creators of what of what we're looking at want us to think there's a demonic element but why is that. I don't think you can really understand what's going on in the world without understanding that component of it so let me tell you an interesting story that happened to us there and I think this will shed some light on this. We went to a sermon message a chat with the high priest of the church of psychedelics they call the church of ambrosia he's apparently got almost 150,000 members of his church and their religion is that you must take large amounts of magic mushrooms and I met the trip to me these hallucinogenic drugs to to understand the nature of reality and I asked him during this thing he opened up for questions and answers I didn't want to give away who I was I said you know there are these. Christians who say that you know large doses of these hallucinogens might put you in communication with the demonic realm that with demonic entities because he'd been talking about communicating with these entities and so I said you know what what do you say about that and I was expecting all those idiot Christians are so dumb they just don't get it but he actually conceded that that was correct he said yes you are going to be in communication with entities and he said some of them are bad entities some of them are negative entities he said they're collecting souls and then as an example.
He spoke of Yahweh Jehovah the God of the Bible as he is called in the Old Testament you know the Hebrew way of writing it is the YWHW and he said that's an example of one of these evil entities that's out there that you might come into communication as you take these magic mushrooms and when he said that it made me remember something really important we've actually talked about on your program. Before a lady by the name of Alice Bailey she was an occultist she was a disciple of a Russian mystic called Helena Blavatsky who wrote ISIS unveiled very very prominent individual that kind of the offshoots of her religious spiritual movement ended up inspiring the Nazis through the Thule Society I mean super demonic a lot of senior Nazi officers were involved in this movement they kind of grew out of Helena Blavatsky's as one of her disciples this woman Alice Bailey founded an organist of the
organization called the Lucifer publishing company they've since renamed it it's now called the Lucius Trust because Lucifer publishing was a little bit too obvious what they were doing and these people are incredibly influential within the United Nations the guy who wrote the UN World Corps curriculum which is the educational system that they want to impose on every child in every school in every country of the world they will tell you you can read it on the website. She was channeling these spiritual entities that were giving her these supposed insights into the coming new age right and people think whatever they want about this I'm just saying what what she was saying you know if you're an atheist you can say well she was crazy you can make of this what you will but here's what she said these entities were telling her. That we're going into this new age and she spoke of something called the externalization of the hierarchy she said right now you know the whole world's kind of blind they don't recognize these spiritual entities. But as we move into this new age as we exterminate what she called that great heresy of separateness which is what Christians and Jews would know of as I'm going to be holy for I am holy the say at the Lord right you read that all over the old testament all over the new testament that's the problem right that people want to be holy so she talks about this externalization of the hierarchy where gradually all of humanity is going to be inducted into this new religious political cultural system part of this is going to happen through the education system and the court.
If you had to explain the core of the spiritual religious beliefs that she expounded through these communications with spiritual entities that the central idea is that Lucifer was the good guy and Jehovah Adonai you know the God of Christians and Jews was the bad guy and she would argue and and her disciples and the people who trained her would argue that the God of the Bible had it was a deity with a small D a God. With a small G who had us imprisoned in this garden this oppressive garden where we were deprived of the knowledge of good and evil and Lucifer the light bringer came and basically showed us how we could acquire this knowledge that Adonai Jehovah Yahweh was depriving us of and so that was in their view the liberation of mankind when we defied this this oppressive tyrannical deity and became truly free and so now the whole world needs to experience that.
So you know when we say it's demonic when we say it's satanic they say no where the demonic ones where the satanic is we're the ones who are following this mean oppressive deity and they're the ones who want to bring light and liberation to mankind so you know they wouldn't say that they're satanic but they would say a lot of them very openly that no Lucifer's great Lucifer's wonderful and he deserves to be worshipped and he deserves our respect because he freed mankind from this oppression of Yahweh which I recognize this is going to sound totally to the bonkers to people who haven't studied the things that these people say I'm just telling you what they say and you know you can make of it what you will you can put it into your worldview your theology however you will but that is really at the core what's happening here. Actually that's very helpful because I keep thinking about these groups like the Hollywood elite and how they end up participating whether they're pretending or actually embracing their practice as a belief.
And the satanic end of the belief spectrum and I mean why would someone want to be absolutely evil other than I mean I kind of get it that maybe if what you wanted was power and fame and wealth and control and everlasting life potentially in a very satanic way you might embrace that but that's so very dangerous. It's very dark and if the whole philosophy that theology has flipped so that Lucifer is good God and Christianity and Jesus is bad then you you you brainwash yourself into this cult of Lucifer and we all know that's possible you what people end up in cults and that's a lot to absorb it is ginger and you know as you were speaking one of the phrases that we heard over and over again they've got a spray painted on I've got pictures of it so you know all the things I'm saying right now someone say like that's not really true we've got the pictures we've got the video we are going to make it public God help us we're we're going to do it but one of the big phrases that everybody kind of rallies around is this phrase I do what that will shall be the whole of the law and I don't think a lot of them know the origin of that they need to the origin of that is a guy by the name of out
of the master Crowley and Alex Crowley was a man who described himself as the beast in the like 1930s and 1920s in my right about that Yeah even into a little bit later but yes he was an inspiration for so many of these people you'll see I mean like he's on a cover of a Beatles album a lot of these hard rock bands you'll they'll say things like do what that we'll the whole of the law. That was his rallying cry. And under this inverted moral system, the only wrong is not doing what you want. And so this guy was doing things, Alistair Crowley, they were involved in what they called sex magic. They were involved in trying to bring demonic entities into this realm. So they were doing rituals with the K. Exactly. Yep. And they thought that they would be able to bring in these, he claimed to be bringing in these entities. They've got different names for him. He drew pictures of them. And he believed that by following this new system of morality, eventually we could crush the restraints on do what that will show you the whole of the law
and make it so that the only wickedness was anybody trying to stand in the way of doing whatever you want. And so Alistair Crowley is a critical figure in understanding where this movement is coming from. And that's why everything is welcome except Christians and biblical morality. That's why you go ahead. I'm sorry. One thing that triggered for me that I realized is the whole concept of do what thou wilt was the concept that Kinsey proposed in his whole examination of human sexuality, which was I think in many ways. Well, absolutely. Do what thou wilt. He said anything is okay in regards to sex. And he, I think of all the public figures ended up polluting the morality of
America and flipping on the switch that opened the door for the 60s so-called sexual revolution, which was just a complete degradation of morals in our country. The other thing is the CIA embraced all of that. And the CIA really looked at a lot of sex magic according to a guest that we've had before who was brought in through MK Ultra and brainwashed and abused and marketed as a child sexually and turned into an asset for the CIA for a period of time before she escaped. So this really tied- She mentioned term sex magic. She did. That's what I realized in the next at all. He was trained in sex. Yep. Well, and that's a huge part of this. People
don't realize Silicon Valley is essentially- it was born out of the US intelligence community. So you know, Silicon Valley is really an intelligence. It is. It's a fusion of the new age kind of dark cult spiritual movement and the intelligence community. All these big companies that we think of is like, you know, super successful companies. They were started with help from the intelligence community. It doesn't matter if you Google Facebook. Absolutely. You know, Facebook, if you look at how Facebook was created, it was essentially a government program until they realized the Constitution wouldn't allow that. So they turned it into a private sector entity. And the guys behind Incutel, which is the investment arm of the intelligence community, is where all this money poured in from. Right? Incutel is literally the investment arm of the intelligence community. It's run by Chairman Michael Crowe, who's the head of Arizona State University. And what they do is they channel intelligence community money into technologies, frontier technologies that they think are going to have some use for intelligence and societal manipulation. And that's where Facebook and Google, all these things came out of that. And these are the people like Mark Zuckerberg was literally in
that 10 D at Burning Man. The dude rolled up in a helicopter and was it's public that he was at Burning Man, the CEO of Google Eric Schmidt. If you ask Google, he got his job because he was at Burning Man. Elon Musk says Burning Man, he said this publicly, Burning Man is Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley is Burning Man. And so when you add in the intelligence angle, when you add in the the sex angle that you guys mentioned with Kinsey, people don't realize the influence that Kinsey had. This is the guy who broke down sexual moors, that have been with society now for in the West, at least for almost 2000 years. As Christianity and the Bible spread throughout the Roman Empire, a lot of the stuff that you saw at Burning Man was gradually suppressed. You couldn't have huge orgies at the temple of Zeus or whatever. What are the Romans used to do that? Absolutely. And they would kill babies and human sacrifice was the norm. All these pagan practices, the slavery, all these pagan practices that were suppressed as Christianity and the Bible spread
are now coming back with this deliberate effort to invert the moral code. So we're watching, I think the repaganization of the world, the intelligence communities part of it. Silicon Valley is a huge part of it. I have followed this through the UN. It's just astounding what's happening. And they're trying to destroy the old moral code. I noticed this when I went to Egypt in 2000, I believe it was 2023, I went to Egypt for the UN Climate Summit there. And for me, that was the main story. Like I'm on the airplane and I'm reading a UN report that they had put out in preparation for this. And they were saying that the old system of morality that they said evolved with humanity over thousands of years. I would argue that God revealed it to Moses and the ancient Hebrews in the Sinai desert. But they said that this morality evolved with mankind over thousands of years that that was no longer adequate for taking care of the planet. That this was leading to this ecological catastrophe. And therefore they said we need new moral codes. We need people to act according to new moral codes. Well, I get off the airplane and there's this giant poster that the
UN had this first thing I see when I get off the airplane. Giant poster that the UN had put up quoting this ancient, they said 4,000 year old pagan Egyptian document about Lord Mott, M-A-T, allowing us into the afterlife. And the reason that this Lord Mott should allow us into the afterlife is according to the sign because I have not polluted the earth or the water. And I'm not defending pollution. Nobody likes pollution. But like they're trying to redefine sin here. Your sin is not your murder, your theft, your lying, your idolatry. No, no, your sin your carbon footprint. So then we get to this UN summit. And this is one of the big themes. They had all these religious leaders, Hindus, Shinto, Christian, your Catholic, Evangelical, Orthodox, Jewish, all these religious leaders. They walked to the top of Mount Sinai and they break out this new and improved 10 commandments. And it's painted green. And the guy starts ranting and raving. He's holding the tablet. And I guess he's doing like a redux of Moses. And he smashes these commandments on the ground. I don't think he saw the irony in
that, of course, with the calf and all that. But then they unveiled these new moral systems. And so I interviewed one of the ring leaders of this, a guy by the name of James Stern, like CEO of the Peace Department, down at the UN thing. This was on Mount Sinai, by the way. And he says, I mean, not only do we have this new and improved moral code, these new 10 commandments, we're now working. He says on the third covenant. So originally, the old covenant, God with his people, the Hebrews, the ancient Israelites, then we had the new covenant when Christ arrived. Now the UN and friends is working on the third covenant. So God gave us the old 10 commandments. The UN and friends gives us the new 10 commandments. God gave us the old covenant, the new covenant. The UN and friends is now bringing us the third covenant. And the guy told me on camera, I have this on video, we've released it. He says we're going to use this third covenant to build the kingdom of heaven here on earth. And so it's all interrelated. It's an effort to repagandize. God told the ancient Hebrews, the Israelites, to be a light under the world,
right, to be a light under the nations. And they don't like that light, right. The Bible says that they love darkness because their deeds are evil. So that's what we're watching, I think, is the repagandization of the world, the effort to overturn thousands of years of progress as God has revealed His moral code all the way through Moses and Abraham and Noah all the way up to Jesus Christ. And again and again, we see the perversion of the 10 commandments. Well, you mentioned the burning man had the 10 principles. Yep. And one of the key ones is leave no trace. We're good because we're environmentally con... They freak out. If you drop a drop of water onto this ridiculous desert where nothing grows. I mean, it's a wasteland. You drop a drop of water and they freak out, oh, you're leaving a trace. Oh, don't leave a trace. It's preposterous, right? Sex orges and drugs totally fine. Drop of water on this inhospitable desert. Oh, that's terrible. Oh, wow. Okay. Right. I've seen other instances where the 10 commandments is being replaced or
attempts or suggestions that that be done or secularized. So let's do a 10 commandments that doesn't involve Christianity so that it's acceptable in public schools, that kind of thing. Yep. All of it eliminates God and that's where we get in trouble. We are out of time for this break and we're going to take a break and we'll be right back for our final segment. Oral hygiene hasn't changed in 50 years but our diet and the way we eat has. Creating an environment in your mouth for bacteria to wreck havoc on your teeth and gums. For better oral health, get Sprite, dental defense, and oral care line designed to combat acid creating bacteria. The toothpaste, mouthwashments, and gum all contain xylitol and natural ingredients shown to dramatically improve oral health. Sprite can be found online and it all finds natural retailers. Have you been looking for a healthy snack for on the go? Well, not all energy bars are soft and
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The desert is called Black Rock. It's called Black Rock, which I thought was really interesting in light of the company Black Rock and the big Black Rock in Mecca. There's some kind of spiritual significance there. Wow. Has it just been named that or was it always Black Rock or was it named by the Burning Man program? I think the official name of it is Black Rock Desert. I don't know if that played a role in why they chose that because it used to be on the beaches of San Francisco. But if you can believe this, it got too wild even for the city of San Francisco. That's what they moved out to the Black Rock Desert. They could engage in their thing. Oh my gosh, we're back to Sodom and Gomorrah here entirely. Exactly. The whole time this was going on, Ginger and Peter, it was just in my mind like, yes, Sodom and Gomorrah. But also, we're just one hair's breath away from these people grabbing kids and throwing them on the fire and sacrifice them to the deities. I don't think a lot of the people there see it that way. They think they're there for partying and
it's just cool and it's just good fun. But like you go back and you read the things that the pagans were doing in the Old Testament. And it's exactly this. The same kind of ritual is with the fire and the drums and all that's left now is to just throw off those last few restraints and all right, let's start sacrificing the kids. The hair on my back, my neck is rising. And that's something that's been common to every culture essentially throughout all of human history. I grew up in Latin America and you look at any of those Mesoamerican culture, the aztecs, the my, like the ink, I don't matter, human sacrifice is part of what they do. The last place I live before coming back to the United States, Scandinavia, my wife is from Sweden. Before the Bible arrived in Scandinavia, before they became Christians, what were they doing? They were sacrificing their children to these pagan deities. They were doing the same kinds of things that they're doing at this burning man, just with the added step of sacrificing children. The same thing happens all over the world except in cultures that have received the light of God through the scriptures, through the
Jewish people, through the testimony of Christians. Did they have a golden calf anywhere? You won't believe this, but yes. They had a art car that was a big giant calf, you know, blasting music. And it was just, it was old testament, but with a lot of LED lights. Art cars are something that they created burning man. They're great big, they're great big moving vehicles that look like things. They had the, what is that building in Sydney that looks like it has wings that there was the opera house. There was an art car like the Sydney opera house. There were various other kinds of art cars and they like drive around until it gets too body muddy. Now I don't know if folks have been given exactly the idea or the image of what it's like there when it starts to rain. It turns into a sea of mud. Human beings actually walk around covered head to toe in mud all so that they may be naked, but they're actually clothed in mud at
that point. And the winds whip up on that desert so heavily the tents are lifting off the ground and flapping everywhere and flying away. It's, it's like a total wasteland. It looks like an apocalypse. Yep. The conditions are not for the faint of heart. The dust, I've never seen a dust storm like this. I mean, we were walking home one night. We were, we were going to bike, but you couldn't bike in this and there was just this dust or more. You couldn't see and I mean, literally I'm not exaggerating here. You couldn't see five or ten feet in front of you. It was dark, pitch black and it was white because this dust was just everywhere. So you have to wear like ski goggles, you have to wear a respirator or a mask of some sort and even still you're breathing in massive amounts of dust. And then the dust finally settles down and it starts raining and and the whole thing turns into this. You almost can't describe it. It's not regular mud. It's like super glue that weighs like super glue mixed with lead. Like you just your your leg is like heavier than you can
even move. Everything stops. The trucks can't drive. Doesn't matter if you got four-wheel drive, nothing can move. And so I just alternates between like dust storm where you can't see and then you get a few hours of nice weather blue sky and then you know another dust storm and then it rains and you can't move. It's you know why anybody would want to go out there on purpose. It sounds like God is trying his artist to make it harder for the last year that the origin name is to practice this pagan kind of ritual. Yeah and last year the orgy dome actually the wind got so strong the orgy dome was carried away. The orgy dome? Oh there's multiple orgy domes. There was an orgy bus. There's an orgy dome where people go in and have orgy. And they were having orgy's after the the burning man burn. I mean they out in the open in full view they're naked mostly homosexuals but also you know to handful of women around kids watching all this. There was one thing that we went to unbelievably blasphemous. They were using Christian songs like worship
songs that you would hear in a church and children's songs and then having strip tease competitions and they're doing sex acts and people are standing out in the bleachers like yeah praise Jesus just you know mocking it's you know Sodom and Gomorrah Redux with a lot of LED lights. Oh my God. What do we do? Actually we've got like 11 minutes left and I think we need to think about how all of that which which looks like it's something that goes on over there and doesn't affect us. How does that influence the world that's being created which I believe is being is being conducted by by the introduction of AI. It's like that the AI and it's not just AI. AI is always referred to as an entity. It's not an entity. It's a bunch of entities. And that is constructing our future. People use AI to research all the time. That's ubiquitous now
but and so we're getting our data from some place where it's stored and someone decides what's okay and what isn't. AI is not foolproof by any means and it's going to get I think I think is pretty free right now and it's going to get ratcheted down and down I think in the future and we're going to be nudged in the direction through the data that we're fed and pretty soon we won't have books left to be able to go to to find out what we really need to find. So Alex what do we do and where is this world going. What you said about AI Ginger is critical because AI is the most powerful technology known to man. There's never been a technology with as much potential for good or for evil as AI. I think it makes nuclear weapons look like child's play by comparison and the reality is AI is already shaping the thoughts, the minds, the hearts, the souls of an entire
generation. These kids can barely read. They certainly can't write an essay. AI is where they're going not just for help with research not just to cheat on their homework but for answers to the important questions of life. Why am I here? What am I doing? Where did I come from? Where am I going? What is the purpose of life? They're going to AI to come up with these questions and the overlords of the AI world are the people behind Burning Man, 100% and so we need to recognize the Secretary General of the UN, certainly not a guy I would usually quote in a good context but he said something very profound just recently. He said what we're watching right now is the largest transfer of power in the history of the world. He said that transfer power is not from people to governments or from governments to people. It's from governments to technology companies. The people who run these technology companies are the people behind Burning Man. To your question Ginger, what do we do? We start by becoming aware that you can't deal with the problem unless you
know you have a problem. Guys, we have a big problem. I want to start by just giving some people some things to chew about. Wherever you're at in your religious walk, your spiritual walk, your political views, I just want people to think about something for a minute. Before the spread of the Bible culture looked very different than it does today. Slavery was ubiquitous. Infanticide was ubiquitous. The things that we take for granted, orphanages, education, individual rights, prosperity, all of these things grew out of the spread of the Bible. The spread of... Exactly. Even the idea of property. Where did that come from? It used to be everything belongs to whichever gangster runs everything. And then along comes this guy Moses who says God told him that no, he thou shalt not steal. And that applies to everybody, even the king. So all of these things that we take for granted is like the foundational elements of our civilization are under attack and people
don't realize it. And so what happens if they succeed? Well, I would encourage you to look back at the pagan cultures that existed prior to the expansion of the truth of scripture. What happened? What did the cultures around Israel look like before Israel showed up? Well, just read your Old Testament. They were sacrificing children to demons. They were exterminating each other. They were engaged in horrific sexual practices. And that's true of all pagan societies. There's a wonderful guy comes out of India. Vichal Manglewadi, he wrote a book called The Book that made your world. He grew up in Hindu, India, pagan, India, and became a Christian. And one of the things that he said has just stuck with me forever. He said before Christian missionaries arrived in India, there was not one hospital. There was not one school for normal people. It was only for the priestly case. There was not one orphanage. It was totally routine for people to leave little children outside of their hut to die. Nobody would even pay attention. And people would just walk by and hear a crying baby. And nobody cared because that child probably did something bad in a previous
life. It's just karma. So like the things that we take for granted in the way, even the non-Christians, even the non-Jews have kind of accepted these tenants of morality and worldview because of the world that they grew up in. All of that's under attack. And so what will the world look like if these people succeed in breaking those restraints, in breaking those moral codes and replacing them with new ones? Well, we don't have to speculate. We know what that looks like. And just ask yourself, is that the kind of world you want to live in? Yeah, you'll get some extra sexual freedom to have whatever orgies and stuff that you want to do. You'll be able to take whatever hallucinogenic drugs you want to do. But what does that world look like? You'll be able to try and get self-actualized. No, that's what they think. Yeah. I mean, you know, we're moving to a higher plane. I mean, you just read Alice Bailey if you want to know where this is going. You have to destroy self-consciousness. And we're all going to merge into this. It's wild. And so I just want people to start off if you're a praying person, pray about this because this is supernatural. This is a spiritual battle. I always tell people it's a spiritual battle. You know, as Andrew Breitbart used to say, politics is
downstream from culture. And culture is being shaped right now at Burning Man. These people aren't just doing their thing at Burning Man and then going back to normal life. These are the people who are designing the algorithms that determine what you're looking at right now on your social media feed when you query Google, when you ask one of these AI things. So just keep all this in mind. Guys, don't become sucked into this. Don't let them capture the hearts and minds of your children. And reacquaint yourself with the principles. You know, everybody talks about make America great again. You need to reacquaint yourself with the principles that made America great in the first place because we're rapidly losing them. And once we lose them, it will be very difficult to go back. And the world will be a very different place. I think a very hostile place to individual liberty and all of those other blessings that we have taken for granted for so long. Do you take a deep breath? Alex and say a prayer for us to close with? It would love to do that. Yep.
Heavenly Father, thank you for being active in this world. Thank you for letting us know the truth through what you have revealed to your people down through the millennia. We pray that evil would be exposed, that evil would be stopped. We ask that everybody listening to this would ponder it. And seriously consider the significance of it. You know, the Bible tells us that we should resist evil, that we should oppose evil, that we should expose evil. We are commanded to love everyone, including those who hate us, including those who persecute us. So help us to do that. But also help us to recognize that some of these things are simply unacceptable. The corruption of children, we used to have a rule in society that the corruption of children was off limits. And here we are normalizing this. So Father, we just thank you for the blessings that you've showered upon us. We thank you for the blessings of liberty that you've showered upon us. We know that we're the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty on the Liberty Bell Exodus is quoted,
proclaim liberty throughout the land. Help us to reacquaint ourselves with these principles. Help us to love others while we do it. Help us to love you. And we pray, especially that you would protect us, protect our families that you would guide us. As we try to navigate this very complex situation, we pray for the people of Burning Man that you would show them what is right and what is wrong. Now that you would show that to all of us. And we just ask that your presence would be made known in this world in a powerful way that was undeniable. And we just pray that you would allow us to continue to serve you help us to serve you better direct our thoughts or actions or deeds. Use us as instruments in this fallen world to accomplish your purposes. And we pray for the Braggins and for the listeners of this program. We just ask that you would bless all of them. And we ask this in your name. Amen. Amen. Amen. And thank you very much.
Why don't we finish up by you describing some of your resources. There are a variety of kinds of resources. Right. Let people know how they can find you. Well, thank you. Peter and Ginger. So over the next few months now, we're going to be putting out a lot of information on this. We're going to be doing a documentary. We're going to be doing I'm doing a cover story right now for the New American magazine. We're going to be putting out some of the interviews that we did in full. And so the places people can find that my website is LibertySentinel.org, the newamerican.com where I serve as senior editor. We've got Freedom Project Media. It was one of the partners that sent us into the desert. People can find that at freedomproject.com. So we'll be putting out a lot of this. I would encourage people to just stay tuned, you know, subscribe or whatever. I've got my newsletter. It's free at substack like you guys. It's LibertySentinel substack. People can find it there. And over the next few months, we'll be putting out a lot more information. You'll find the proof for everything that I've just discussed. Nothing that I've said right now is undocumented. We've got the video and the audio supporting everything that I shared. So I would encourage people
to do that. And of course, stay tuned to America out loud. Keep tuning in to Peter and Ginger Bregan because they are some of the most astute and righteous commentators out there today. I just feel honored to be on the program again. Thank you guys very much. Peter, I just did a marvelous interview with you about some of these psychiatric drugs. I hope people will go listen to that. It was on my show behind the deep state. For people whose children might still be in the education system, I lead a ministry called Public School Exit. My own children are enrolled in something called classical conversations. It's a wonderful program where you get kind of a classical education rooted in scripture. And it's just a marvelous program. So lots of resources out there for anybody who needs them. And I would encourage people to check them out. Thank you. And this is this is the Bregan Hour with Dr. Peter Bregan and Ginger Bregan and our guest Alex Newman. And we air Saturdays and Sundays at 4 p.m. on america out loud.news. And then the show goes to podcast after that weekend every Monday. And with them we can
be found on any of the podcast platforms. And thank you very much Alex Newman.
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