Bush Blade In The Hog Bucket - Parsons, Tennessee

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4:06Parsons, Tennessee is in Western Tennessee. It's about an hour and a half to Nashville, about two hours to Memphis. So right in between in that nowhere land in the middle there in Tennessee, when you drive on the 40 and it just goes hills like this. Is it from the smokies? I guess so. Two hours and 40 minutes to our last Tennessee episode in Tullahoma, Tennessee. That was episode 689, Murder, Breadcrumb Trail. That was a wild one too. I remember there was body parts and everything else. This is in Decatur County, like Georgia, there. Are you a co-ed... What is Decatur? Is that a tree or something? No clue. I have no idea. It's all over the South. Yeah. A lot of Decaters. There are a bunch of different states have Decaters. That's in the North, do there's Decaters, I think. Is that? What that is? It's got to be a fucking tree. Maybe. I mean, but then it would grow. I don't know what it is. We'll have to find out one of these days. Area code. Let's have a bonus episode on the Decaters. Why?

5:06Why Decatur? Area code 731 here. Population 2462. Not a big place. A little small place. It's pretty rural. Farms out here and things like that. Media and household income here. Wow, this is low. Less than half the national average. 31,293. That's household. Live enough to land. Wow. Yeah, I hope you grow something to eat because you can't afford to buy anything with that kind of money. Media and home cost here. $126,100. So also... Still not. ...dreamly low. This is like living in 1988, essentially. The motto here, they do have a motto and you rarely see mottos with punctuation and this has an exclamation point on it. So they're really selling it to you. Take pride in Parsons. Do it. You son of a bitch. Yeah, it becomes aggressive with the exclamation point, doesn't it? Yeah. All right. History. 1880 here.

6:07A young man named George Washington Parton. I am. Not oh, and... Oh. George Washington Parton left his home in Georgia on a horse-drawn buggy because how the hell should we get anywhere back then? Well, see walked. Unless he walked, that was a long walk to go to Northwestern, to go to Tennessee to sell sewing machines. That was... They were new at the time, sewing machines. Eventually, he went to Decatur County where he married a woman Maggie. So they liked the Bear Creek area and thought it would be a good place to start a town. Well, such wild times back there. You see some nice land, you go, let's start a town. Not let's live here. Nobody does that. Does anyone start a town anymore? No, we start a house. That's it. We start with a place. He wanted to start a town. A town. He purchased a number of acres on the Perriville, a Lexington dirt road near the present big or a Bear Creek church building and opened a big general store and people went to

7:09the general store. So... I'll do it. I'll start a comment here. Cotton Gens, doctors, office opened up. Things started happening. There was no post office nearby. So he put in an application for a post office and the post office was going to be called Partonville after him. It was approved and he became the first postmaster of the town. But then the railroad decided they wanted to build a railroad from Memphis to Tennessee across the Virginia state line. It was completed and ended at Perriville. Memphis to Tennessee. It missed Partonville by about a mile to the south and fuck the town basically. If the railroad didn't come through, you were toast. So he saw it was going on and moved. Purchased a new... Purchased the first lot sold in the new town and bought nearby Bucknerland and then sold Torres building down and moved to a new town. The post office was moved to Parton, our Parsons and then Partonville was gone.

8:12So... Because... Yeah, so it didn't change. His name too, what's going on? Why is it no Parsons? No, they just forgot about him and it's Parsons. Just okay. He was stricken from history. Reviews of this town, here's five stars. I was raised in Arsons, not Parsons. I was raised in Arsons, he just said. And there's no other city I would rather grow up in. It's a small town where everyone knows everyone and I like that aspect. A takeaway though is that there aren't many job opportunities. I would think not. That is true. That is a 200-500 people. And then finally, four stars. There's only five in four star reviews. There's like three fives and a few fours. Parsons is a small town. So you'll get to know most of its residents within two years. It's a friendly little place to live and big towns and cities are a 30 minute to one hour drive away. One drawback is that since it is a small town, most everyone will hear about you and your life. So make sure you give a good impression.

9:13Don't fuck off. Jesus Christ. It's like prison here is what that sounds like. Everyone's going to be watching you and judging you. Here about your life. Then literally sounds like if you're growing a prison is what they would say. Make a good impression because everyone's going to know what you did and everyone's going to know, you know, like that's wild. Two years, you will probably meet everybody because just by virtue of living, you're going to run across everyone. There's only 2,400 people and you figure a bunch of those are little kids. You're not going to meet them. A bunch of those are like elderly people. So anyone within like a 20 to 50, 20 to 60 range of age, you will meet all those people probably or at least I was on the HOA board of my neighborhood. There's only 60 houses. I still don't know all those people. Should be fucking ashamed of yourself for doing that by the way. I had to do it. I had no choice. That's how you get done for your own stuff. I had to get on the board to vote for my own house. That is a disgrace.

10:15That's a disgrace. What I did it. Jesus Christ. I want to buy a house but let you tell me what to do with it. That sounds fine. It is weird to ask open other adults if it's okay if I put different rock. That's what I'm saying. I would. It's very bizarre. No. I could build a burning wicker man in my front yard. No one would say fucking word about it. I love that. Yeah. I was arrested as a teenager for breaking. You know what I mean? Doing bad things. Now I ask other adults. Is it okay with you if I put gravel in my house? They're slightly different color gray but I think you'll really like them. I think they'll match everybody's stuff. Please. It's a little darker brown color. It's not all right with you. God damn it. Things to do here. The big squeeze is what I found. No. It's held on that. It's held the weekend before July 4th. If you want to go out and not have to mix up all those fireworks and bullshit.

11:15It's a it's a it's a raise awareness and funds for the veterans indicator county. I don't know if there's any actual like a body of anybody that's behind this like a you know a organization or anything like that. If you serve will give you a couple bucks. Yeah. It has a lemon up there. So it's a big squeeze talking about lemon. Lemon's I guess starts off starts off with a hero's breakfast. There's a drop off for the lemon bake off. There's a lemon bake off. The lemonade stands open at 10. What's that? Oh yeah. I just put lemonade. There's not much to bake with lemons. Is there meringue and tart? I got a yeah, that's I got a schedule. It says drop off for lemon bake off. It's the only information I have. I don't know. You can just bake a lemon and eventually it'll it'll just I don't know. Three three fifty. No, no. The lemonade stands open at 10 at 6.30 pm. They're going to play the sand lot.

12:17Just put on the movie screen in the middle of the park there. Then there's going to be fireworks. Then the next day they have a lemon lane touch a truck. Then they have a food trucks. They have a patriotic parade followed by an outhouse race. I don't know what that is. Your guess is as good as mine, but it doesn't matter because they're opening for the big headline or the Kimberly Hilton band. I don't know. They played. Sure, she's lovely and wonderful. That's it. Let's talk about some murder shall we? Let's do this. My goodness, this is weird and messy. Let's start out hot October 18th, 1993. Here we go. 93. Kurt Cobain is still alive, but it that way. It's a much different time. Everything's going great. Now, I'm going to read this right from the Jackson Sun newspaper here. Wilkins town road winds through the beautiful wooded countryside of Decatur County off

13:20the US 412 near Parsons. This is where we're going to be. It's dotted with farms and small homes that are located here and there. The entire area conveys good, peaceful living. Okay. That's what that's how they just the newspaper to set the scene here, right? On this day of October 18th, 1993, Ted Barnett, he is going to knock on his brother Timothy's door. Timothy goes by Timmy. He's going to knock on his door. He hasn't heard from him in a couple days. And I was wondering what's going on with Timmy here. So he knocks on the door for several minutes and nobody answers. So he thinks Timmy might be sleeping or something. He keeps banging, keeps banging. Eventually, he just opens the door and goes in. When he goes in, he finds his brother's eight-month-old daughter, Amelia, crying in her crib. She's just sitting in her crib. That's the first thing he sees, the baby crying in the crib. He's like, okay, this is weird.

14:22Where's the people here? Then he walked in the Timothy's room and he sees blood all over the walls everywhere. Yeah. I mean, it's a, when we, when you find out what happened, it is a bloody scene. You can't imagine how much spray spat or everything else is going on here. He sees that his younger brother, he sees his head and sees he has several sharp wounds and his head is kind of mushed in between his water bed mattress and the bed frame. So his water bed, you can kind of pull up the mattress, get like a spot. So you can, yeah, you're rolling up like, so that's what's going on. If you sleep towards the edge, you'll get pinched. You'll get in there. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, he finds him. Now, he looks around. There is no sign of Timmy's wife also, because he has a wife. And so there's a baby who's crying and fine. His brother who is very dead and blood everywhere and we don't find the wife anywhere to be,

15:23she's nowhere to be seen. So this is interesting. So he calls the police, obviously, they come over and a little bit of background here. Now the victim, Timothy, Timmy, Barnett, he's born 1972. He's 21 years old at this point. Wow. Yeah, young guy, young guy. He by the way, not only has an eight month old, he has two other kids too from before his marriage. Yeah. At 21 pre 20, he had two kids. Yeah. That a boy, Timmy. Wow. Yeah, that a boy, we had a completely fuck up society. Great job. That's good. Keep it up. Come on. He is. More parents, you can't watch your kids. Please have him all. Yeah. I knew he was young just because he had a water bed still. Well, you can't sleep in that anymore. 93 though, people can give a fuck. They had water beds, which was crazy. I don't know when they went. Late 90s that had to die, right? Mid 90s that was the end of it. Probably 96, right?

16:24Around them. They can't have a water bed after that, right? I've been to the room store and places, furniture stores. They don't have them anymore. No, nobody buys them. Nobody's buying them. No. So Timmy, a little bit of background on him. He's got a dad named Ralph, a mom named Rita. He has a brother named Ted, obviously, who found his body. He also has a sister. Like we said, Timmy already has two sons and a young daughter with his wife. He's a farmer, Timmy. That's what he does for a living. Farms. You'll find out. He also does some other shit that we'll find out about. Now they classify Janice as his wife as a missing person at this point. They don't know if she's a suspect or a possible victim. They have no idea. Maybe though, when you walk in and you see one spouse completely slaughtered and the other one gone, you put two and two together and go, okay, the other spouse probably did it. I would imagine, right? Generally, that's the first clue, yeah. Generally. Now the baby girl appeared to be fine and remained at the County General Hospital for

17:28protective surveillance at this point because they were afraid. Maybe somebody had it in for this family or something. They didn't know. So they literally have a little baby sitting in a hospital room with a cop standing out outside. Nobody go near this fucking baby. That could be a terminator coming back for this baby. We don't know. We have no clue. That's the thing. We don't know what he's changing forms into at this very moment. We can't tell. Now, where's his wife? Let's talk about his wife. His wife's name Janice Ann Robinson, now Barnett since they've been married, but Janice Ann Robinson. She's born 1969. She's about three years older than him 24th this point. Now she comes from a good family. Her father is the Reverend James Robert, James Robinson. James Robert Robinson goes by Jim, big Jim Robinson, the Reverend, and her mom is Barbara Ann Robinson. They have three kids, including Janice. Janice is the middle kid in this mix. She's the Jan.

18:28So we have John, as her older brother, John R. Robinson. He's born in 67. And there's Janice born in 69, and they have another daughter named Deborah Sue, who's born a couple of years later. Now her brother, John, is married to a woman named Kimberly, who's about five years younger than him, and they have a young son. Okay. Kimberly, by the way, has a ninth grade education and has no job prospects, no anything. I think she's just from the rural. She's from the rural area and doesn't know shit about shit. So just kidding. She's just kidding. Exactly. Now Janice met Timmy and they hooked up and got married here, like we said, March of 1993, so whatever, a little bit earlier than that February maybe, that's when they had the baby, that's when they have little Amelia here. Amelia Ann, everybody's, wow, that's weird. Everybody's name middle name is Ann.

19:29That's interesting. Okay. Now Janice, there's only like four middle names back then. There really is. Yeah, it's Ann Marie. A lot of them named Marie too. That happens a lot. Joe. Joe, yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Susie Joe, you see that a lot. Yeah. Now Janice works at a factory. That's what she's been doing, which she's been up to. So the day we find the body, Monday, October 18th, 1993, that's when Ted finds the body. And the detective who came to check out this scene said, we found Timmy face down in the master bedroom. He had several wounds to the back of the head by a sharp object. His head was hit so hard that it was shoved between the bed frame and the water bed mattress. The hitting forced it in there. Violent. Wow. Yeah, violent forced in there. It didn't like a violent attack that drove him and drove his head there. They said he sustained three chops to the back of his head.

20:33One of the chops completely cut through the dome of his skull. Wow. To the brain. So think about it. That's hard. Yeah. That's hard, man. That is a hard chop. That's right. That's, we'll find out what it is, but it's a, it's a hell of it. It's not a kitchen knife probably. No. No. No. This is a serious weapon right now. They look around too and they find that the phone doesn't work. It's the first they think that maybe someone, you know, did something, but it's actually disconnected for unpaid bills. So there was no. Oh, it's been too ingrate. No, there was to me and Janice are not doing great. We'll find out there's no way for anybody who could have called for help or anything in this house because they have no phone and there's no cell phone. It's 93. So if you don't have a phone, if your phone gets disconnected, as I remember being a kid and having that happen once in a while, you have no way to contact the outside world. You're just stuck. You're just fucked. They also discover that in the back of a van parked in front of the house, there's a

21:36couple of things missing, including a bush hook, is what they call it, huh? Which is a large curved blade weapon has like a three foot handle and a two foot curved blade, like a big sickle face. Oh, it's a kind of yeah. A grass cutter. Yeah. They call it a bush hook. Later on, they'll call it a hog something we'll talk about, but it's a big nasty fucking weapon. It's a manual lawn mower is what it is. Yeah. Well, they see that and they realize that that is missing and the wounds on Timmy are consistent with a big blade of that sort. So they're thinking there's possible that that's what caused it, but they don't know where that is at this moment, the bush hook. They can't find it. Oh, God. They also find in the home a single un-fireed cascade brand 22 Magnum cartridge with a copper jacket and a hollow point un-fired, just a bullet lay in there that doesn't match anybody's

22:36not Timmy's gun. It doesn't belong to anybody in the house. So that's also something, but also there's like the compact. All right. Now Ted who discovered the body also tells the police because he's over there a lot. They said, is there anything missing that you can tell from the house? And he said, well, yeah, the VCR is missing. And a telephone and answering machine is missing also from the bedroom. So there are answering machine telephone and a VCR are missing at this point in time. Now Timmy's mom, they get her to come to the scene because Ted calls his mom, not from Tim's house, but somewhere else. And she says, this is Rita, Timmy's mom. My friend drove me up to his house about a half a mile away. I could tell something was wrong. Then I saw the yellow tape. I knew what that meant. I just started hollering, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy. So this poor lady.

23:39Now, here's the question, where the hell is Janice? That's what we really want to know. Yeah, where'd she go? Well, she is considered at this point a missing person. And they're literally saying possibly a suspect or possibly a victim. We're not sure. Yeah. They're describing her as 24 years old, five feet tall, white, blue eyes, lawn blonde hair, could be driving a white two door 1988 Pontiac Grand Amp hot shit with with Decatur license plate, Decatur County plates, ZNV 675. So that's what they're looking for. They also find a witness at this point that had seen the bar nets because they're trying to put together Janice and Timmy's night. How did this happen? So they find people who had seen them at 11.30 pm on October the 16th, which seems to be the last time anyone saw them. Anyone saw them anywhere. Basically, they stopped at a guy named Michael Woody's house, who is a local drug dealer.

24:40Oh, legend. Yeah. To quote, pay the wife of Michael Woody some money. Apparently Janice had owed some money that she borrowed to pay off her brother, John's bad checks. Oh, this is bad. Oh boy. Okay. That. Now, when asked by the press if this Michael Woody is a suspected drug dealer, the cops says this quote, that's hard to say. Yes. He's that's hard to say. And that says yes. We've received information also that Timmy and John Robinson, Janice's sister, were dealing for Mr. Woody also. So now, yes, now we're finding out that he's doing a little more than farming Timmy and that might make more sense of why someone would want to kill him. They said Timmy would sell and give the money to John, but John wasn't giving the money to Woody. So John's like the intermediary guy supposed to deliver the money that Timmy made from

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28:46We've got to lay low. Stop writing bad checks. Yeah, what are you doing, dude? Do Jesus Christ? You're bringing me. You're stealing drug money. Use that money. Don't write bad checks. I'm drunk with you. So Tuesday, October 19th, 1993, the police are looking for Janice. They said we're still looking for the wife right now. We're classifying her as a missing person until we find out a little bit more. Until we find her. We're going to classify her though. Yeah, they said she could be a suspect or she could have been abducted and she could be kidnapped right now. We have no idea what's going on. They said there wasn't enough evidence to give any clue of what happened. They said they said there's hard to say. They said there's no forced entry that was noticed. But again, hard to tell. Hard to say. Yeah, hard to say they said again, hard to say. They have a witness now. Another Janice, not the Janice, we're looking for a different Janice.

29:47We could be any less confusing. Tell them to the more people. Let's throw two Jesus together. In one story, Janice Mitchell, this is now. Janice Mitchell's husband contacts the police on Tuesday, October 19th, the day after Ted's body's found or Timmy's body's found. He tells the police that Janice Robinson, Janice Barnett, Timmy's wife that we're looking for, that, oh, I'm sorry, not Janice Robinson, Kim Robinson, who's John's wife. Janice's brother, John, his wife, Kim. Okay. Kim told this guy's wife, Janice Mitchell. That John Robinson, Janice's brother, killed Janice. That's where Janice is. She's dead and her brother killed her and just stuck her behind a trailer that's close to the crime scene, a nearby trailer in the neighborhood. Okay. Now that's what they said. So obviously the cops don't know if that's true or rumor or what, but they have to go

30:49look. Where do you start? Where do you start? Everything's a trailer, probably, right? It's the one close to the property. So they said it's this one. I just said close to the property. Yeah. Yeah. I said close to the property. If I gave everybody all the landmarks, you wouldn't know what the hell they meant. No. Close to the trailer. Yeah. Near that one tree, you know the one. The blue one next to the Decatur tree. Yeah. You go down to where the old barn used to be and take a left there. You know how that is. So later that day, they go and they find Janice's dead body. So these people that called in either had some good information or they did it themselves, but somebody knew where the fuck she was. Right on. Yeah. And according to those people, it's John's wife Kim is the one who knew where they were. Now her body, yeah, her body's been exposed to the elements for more than three days. So decomposition, animals, that sort of thing. They find her decaying in tall grass and woods behind a neighbor's house.

31:54Yeah. He said, I'll just put her by the neighbor's house. That way they won't know. You know, it'll be different. Yep. Then a tip is going to lead to the discovery of Janice's vehicle as well. Right. In the, yes, the swallow bluff area of South Decatur County. Now Janice, by the way, her left arm near her shoulder was sliced really deeply. Her jaw was broken also and her throat is slit from ear to ear. I mean, you never did this is angry, angry and really, really angry and really, really wants to put some hurt on the shit. So her brother, John, arrives to ID the body because they notify the family. So he says, I'll go, I'll do it. I'll go ID the body. When he gets there, he's taken into custody for questioning on the killings. They're like, Hey, we were looking for you. Great.

32:54Come on in, buddy. We heard your wife know something. Yep. They also questioned Kim, his wife. Now, they said the information we developed from individuals indicated that John Robinson had gone over to the house and committed the acts over there based on the reliability of the information we had enough to take John into custody at that time. They're based on just those tips that they had. It's enough to at least take a minute and have a chit chat with them here. They also search John and Kim's house on the 20th of October and find a two shot derringer pistol that those 22, 22, yeah, fits perfect in those matter of fact. He had one of those in there already. So look at that. Those are the bullets. They are a palisade or whatever that brand was. The cascade. Gasgate. Yes. They found that stained sneakers with blood, a pillowcase and a wash rag that are all blood stained. So a lot of blood stained shit and a bullet that matches that. So now the car, by the way, once they get the fire marshal's office to investigate the

33:57car burning that they found as sister's car, they found out it was actually burned twice. Oh, it was burned twice. They're like this car is burned twice. It was burned and then someone tried to burn it again. These like so that that's a weird little detail. Now the neighborhood freaks the fuck out as we might imagine. We described it idyllic with little dots and farms and little houses. This is now what's supposed to grow up. James. Sounds wonderful. Sounds lovely compared. That's what the reviewers said. We don't know. Charlotte Johnson who lives across the street from the Barnets said that she saw Timothy and Janice Barnett earlier the day they were killed. She said the murders put us in a state of shock and fright for a long time. Timmy was best friends with my son and he had been coming over here since he was 12. They're the same age. She said the neighborhood will never be the same. It will fall back to normal somewhat when it's finished in the courts, but we will never

34:57forget what happened. Another neighbor says she doesn't even like to drive down the road that she lives on. She went to school with Tim Barnett and went to church with Janice. And she said coming from a small town like Parsons, you can't dream that something like this can happen, especially if John Robinson did it. I just can't believe anybody would do their family like that. You know what's another show very often do you? So did he do it? Let's find out. All right. I mean, if he did, James, he somebody's a yapping ass some bitch. Somebody loves to chit chat. Within three days, you're busted idiot. You rolled up to the scene and they're like, hey, looking for you. Come on over. Yep. Well, let's find out. Janice Mitchell, she said that about 715 Monday, October 18, 715 AM on Monday, October 18, 1993. That's the day Ted walked in and found his brother, Timmy there, that Kim Robinson, John's wife,

36:00told her that John had killed these people. So it's all John. Yeah. Told her that. She said that the that Kim went into detail when conveying the story about the killings as well. The conversation occurred two hours prior to the discovery of Timmy Barnett. So this conversation happened before they even found Timmy. No one knew Timmy was dead yet except for Kim. Oh my God. Yeah, it's not like they heard it was all out and she was like, I know who did it. She was like, hey, this has happened. No one even knew he was dead yet. You're going to hear about this one day. Yep. He wasn't discovered until 9 AM that Monday. This was 715 AM. So an hour 45 before that happened. So here's more evidence. Apparently, he and Kim had been separated up to about two weeks before the murders took place. They said that this is from one of Kim's friends. Quote, this is the police. We confirmed through an individual that Kimberly said she would not go back to John unless

37:02Janice was dead. This sister, unless you kill your sister, I'm not coming home. Wow. Okay. Then they said we developed a person that stated on Sunday after the murder took place before the bodies were ever found. John and Kim came over with a VCR and telephone answering machine combo thing and gave it to them for an in lieu of money they owed them. So they they stole this shit or John stole this shit from the house then tried to pay a debt with it. Wow. I mean, those are big ticket items in 93 and he's the other couple hundred bucks. Yeah. You can get answering machine phone combo. He could probably three, four hundred bucks worth of debt. You can get out of with that. That's right. Yeah. So the items were then given to Tracy Beacham of Jack's Creek and after hearing about the murder involvement of the Robinson's, she then threw the items in the forked deer river near Jackson. I don't want these.

38:04They said we have a diving team set up set up for later in the week to go search for those items. So then they bring Kimberly in and John won't say shit. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Kim has a much different approach. She says, let me tell you everything that's ever happened to me ever. Real? I mean, everything. Yeah. She starts doing like we've mentioned before. She starts doing chunk from goonies and starts telling you what time was four of us? It's wild. So Kim gave police two different statements. The first one, she lied for her husband and she admitted she was lying for her husband. I don't know what happened. He was here, gave him an alibi, all that kind of shit. Okay. The cop though says, but after she was given an opportunity to talk with her mother, she gave us a different statement. Her mother said, don't you go to prison for that scumbag? Yeah. You tell Kim said she was scared because she because she hadn't told the truth. She was scared that John was going to go to jail. That's that ship has long sailed.

39:05He is going to jail. Yeah. Who gives a shit if John goes? Yeah. Question is, are you going or not? That's what you need to worry about. So she says, here's what happened. Okay, I'll tell you the truth. On the evening of October 15th, John was all high on crank. I mean, he was methed up hardcore. She said, she said crank. Crank is the way she put it. They're big users if they say crank. Oh, they're into it. Yeah. Nobody says crank unless you're cranking. Yeah. Yeah. You could say, Matthew could say, all this other ship of crank is like, I'm using that shit. I like it. So she said, that was, you know, he was doing that kind of all night. He was doing a little bit here, a little bit there. She said he took a quote, straw full of crank before the murder took place. A straw full. Got all cranked up. Can't be a real straw. Like a, not a milkshake straw, I hope. Jesus, that would be a, a twizzler, right? What do they call it? Swizzler? Swizzler stick. Maybe you got to be one of those. Yeah. You give her like a McDonald's milkshake straw.

40:05You're like, that's a pricey straw. Slush probably straw. You're in deep shit. You'll be high for a month. So later that evening, John left their apartment to go to a local bar. Yeah. It's not enough that he's on a straw full of crank. He has to get a couple of drinks at him too. Upon returning home, he said that he saw Timmy and Janice, his sister and brother-in-law, and quote, he was tired of their bullshit, tired of them yelling about at him about bad checks and that he was going to take care of them, tired of their bullshit. Those are telling me that people are breaking our balls about your debts. Please pay them. He's sick of hearing it. So the Robinson's at that point had also driven by a friend's house and saw Tim Barnett sitting in his car. Later, Tim and Janice talked to John near a small grocery store and that's when they you need to pay your debts basically. The Barnett's asked John to take care of the $600 to $800 in bad checks he had written

41:08them. Essentially, John said he was tired of their shit and he said he was tired of Timmy, giving him problems about the bad checks and he said he was going to take care of them and he was going to go kill them. That's what he told Kim. Kim said she never took the comments to heart because John makes threats all the time and he was all cranked up. I mean, you know, he's just talking shit. She said, I thought he was crazy and high. I was trying to calm him down. Okay. She indicates he was shocking. He was frantic after that saying he was going to kill them and insisting that Kim take him over to their house right now. Now, well, I'm still all, well, I still got a strong crank in me. Yeah. So she said, okay, and got a babysitter. This is my favorite part. The most she what? She made a phone call. Yeah, you can couple hours if you go, we're just going to go murder some family members

42:09if you could just come by. Be nice. Look, I got eight dollars an hour minimum, $20. I mean, yeah, I'm with your name. And you may order pizza. That's the other thing. I'll leave pizza money. I'll leave the tent on the safe. You may order pizza, fudge sickles in the freezer. We good? All right. I'm impressed. I'm a sitter for a murder. For a murder. How wild is that? I've never heard of that before. We've never heard that before. That's unbelievable. What have been even better if she said, we'll just take the baby. It don't matter. It's a problem in the car. That would have been awesome. I can't get a sitter on this later. It's right. God damn it. Put him in the car. See, he sleeps when we drive. It's all right. She, and she can't say I didn't know what we were going to do. He told her, I'm tired of their shit. I'm cranked up. It's murder time. I'll get a sitter. Let me call the sitter. Hold on. Okay. That's a teen year old. That's great. The sitter. Yeah. She's always up for free pizza. Let's bring her over. Wow.

43:09So at John's insistent, Kim said she drove back, drove the back roads. Wouldn't even let her drive the regular roads because I'll paranoid to the Barnets Wilkins town road home. About midnight, she stopped the car about two houses away. That John off in a ditch, she said, and then drove back to her home in Scott Hill. She said I was getting pretty worried because it was taking so long. I asked Tommy Alexander to ride with me to where I dropped John off. So she said that the whole point was he instructed her to return home and that he would call her when he was ready to be picked up. I don't know where he's going to call from because they don't have a fucking phone. So I don't have a phone. No. I don't know where I am. That is when he just shows up back at the apartment. He made it back. He just popped up back at the apartment with no ride. Bet you that the not having a phone thing definitely put a snag in his plans. They fucked the whole thing up. Yeah. He's expecting a phone call. Now he's got a walk all fucking jacked up on a straw full of that than everything else.

44:16So she said that she and Shelley, the babysitter, Shelley. That's a babysitter name, Shelley and Tommy Alexander were all present when he came home. They said that he came in. He was real pale, sweaty, dirty, had grass all over him and looked, quote, freaked out, which if you gave me a straw full of meth, that's about probably what you would describe me as as well, right? And have me murder somebody and then walk. I don't know how long back home. I might look just like that. I'm saying cut out the murder and the walking. Just give me a bunch of meth in a couple hours and you're going to go, he was real pale and sweaty and dirty and freaked out. I don't know what's going on. I'd be a mess. Walk home. Who knows if I'm on meth, I might crawl under cars that I don't have to crawl under. You never know. I might be kind of dirty. You never know. Yeah, you might have done some. How are steering pump fluid on your back? Oh, so a couple of stop drop in rolls for no reason. Just.

45:16Monfire shit down. All right. Hop back up again. I don't know. So Tommy Alexander, one of the people there said that John appeared to have either blood or a scratch on his face and that Kim said that John made everyone leave except for her. Everyone get the fuck out. Shelly, you can get your $20 and get the hell out of here. Go on. Get lost. Take your eleos to go. Now move it. All right. So she said that after everyone had left, she said, quote, I asked him to go to the rest of the room. I asked him why he didn't call me and he said the phone was disconnected and I asked him what happened and he just looked at me and said they are dead. And I said, who's dead? And he said, Janice and Timmy. So she said he's got grass all over me. He's very nervous. They're dead. She said, I started crying and freaking out. John took me by the arms, shook me and told me to calm down. He gave her one of those. Get yourself together. Click it in the whole movie. You start paintbrushing her.

46:17Get it together. Come on. You didn't kill anybody, bitch. Yeah. Fuck are you freaking out? I don't know if this should be behaving like that. And then he said, I did it for you. He said, that's all you talk about that you want, you want Janice dead. And then he said, I didn't like her anyway. It's his sister. It's his little sister. I didn't like her anyway. Imagine killing your little sister. That's wild. And you don't even like your sister. But still. And not oh. I'm kind of killed. I haven't seen her in eight years. As far as you go, I guess she said. Yeah. She's essentially that. That's what she's saying. So then she said that they drove to a factory where he left the grandam. Janice's car. Then he got into the the bar net's car, I guess here. Oh, that they had to go get the car because he had left the car. He drove the grandam out to here. Then walked home from there. So they go get the car. Then he follows her in their car in the bar net's car to a deserted area.

47:22They arrive. He gets out of the car, removes items from the trunk, which Kim said looked to be billfolds and some clothes. A bunch of other. I can take that one shirt that Timmy had. That was a damn nice shirt. That's not gonna take that. He burns it all in a culvert near the road, except for she saw Tim's wallet that he kept. He kept Tim's wallet before leaving. He set the car on fire. Okay. Then they drive to Memphis. That's the thing. There's nothing. There's no. They'll stop complaining about my bad checks. Right. You still owe money on the bad checks. Kim put a kitchen that my sister only was one. That's nagging. Wow. Okay. They drive to Memphis that morning. Okay. They dropped off their son Spencer with Kim's mother and they started driving toward Memphis. That's when John told her actually what happened here. She said, John didn't want to talk about it. I told him I was going to tell the police about burning the car and then he's John started

48:24crying. John told me after I dropped him off, Jesus Christ. He said he, you know, went in there and he said that he said he went down the road and he said he went to, he went there to begin with. Okay. John has let him in the house. That's what happened. He told Janice that he and his wife had been fighting and then he needed to ride to his car. Janice went in and told Timmy who'd been sleeping that she was going to take John to his car and Timmy went, whatever, went back to sleep. Okay. He separated. Then. Yep. Well, then. Okay. Here it is. Here's Tim's or Kim statement. Quote. He said they went to a road. They went down to a road and he said that Janice was raising hell about the checks about me, meaning Kim, about everything. And he said that he needed to use the bathroom and he got out and when he got back in, he hit her with a gun. He then duct taped her and put her in the trunk. Duck taped her hands, put her in the trunk. He said he then went into their house, the Barnett's house and started walking around

49:29and then stopped and thought, what am I doing? I got my sister duct taped and pistol whipped in the trunk of her own car. This is crazy. And he said he was going to go back to let Janice out of the trunk. This is a story told his wife to talk to, to talk her into not telling on him for what had just happened. Please don't call the cops and say, I pistol with you and get an action. I'll tell them about it about this. That he was going to let her out and that she had, but by the time he got out there, he realized she'd kicked her way through the trunk. Yeah. She kicked her way out of the trunk and took off running. When he got outside, she was running. He said, shit. So he chased her. She was running to a neighbor's house screaming about him, back at him about how she was going to send him to jail. Okay. So he said he went to the porch. She was on, tried to calm her down, tried to get her to listen to him, but she wouldn't. She just kept screaming and fighting him. He said he pulled the gun out and tried to shoot her, but it wouldn't shoot.

50:32Wouldn't wouldn't work. So this gun apparently was notorious for not working all the time. So then she took off running. There's standing there. He tries to shoot her, click, click and she was like, and took off like, I'm not shot. I guess I better run. So she takes off running. He tackles her. She picked up a brick, he says and tried to hit him with it. And he took it away from her and started shaking her again. He's like, what are you doing? He's a shaker guy. And then he hit her head in the, hit her in the head with the brick. And he said he heard her neck pop and she didn't move. He's saying he thinks he broke her neck with the brick. Yeah. So then he said at that point, I guess I got to go kill Tim. This I better go kill Tim because he knew that that we left together. He knew that John and John is left together. So had to kill Timmy. So Timmy wouldn't tell that him and Janice left together.

51:32That's what he tells him. I had to kill him. I had no choice. So wow. He continued to say that he found a blade describes a three foot handle with a two and a half or a two foot long blade and went into Tim's room. He found a blade in a pig bucket, by the way. Oh, God. A blade in the pig bucket. It's so gross. It's disgusting. He said that he quote said he just started hitting Tim. He said that Tim never knew what happened. He said he was sleeping when he attacked him. So he never even came to came to and just he started hacking him up like sling blade. I mean, this is a sling blade type incident here. This is Billy Bob Thornton here. Is this a worse weapon? I think it is. I sling blade. It all sounds bad. He's about two foot blade out of a hot bucket. That does not sound good. I mean, I was picturing, yeah, you're right. He killed his mom with a sling blade. It's the same blade. Yeah. I was seeing the lawn mower blade that were at the end of the whack dude and that.

52:36Yeah. That one of those two. This is definitely the worst weapon, right? This is horrifying. Yeah. Yeah. John said he hit him a couple more times, but blood was splashing. So he quit. Yeah. He quit because there's too much blood power and out on him. He just didn't like it. Too much blood. Got to leave. He's got a straw of crank. Blood makes you uncomfortable. So. Makes you feel easy. Wow. So after killing Timmy, he went back to see whether Janice was dead or not. He, she looked dead, but he said he went out there to check her, lifted up her head and cut her throat to make sure she was dead. Yeah. That's cold, dude. That's his sister. That's, yeah. But he's also minimizing what he did to her. Oh, yeah. Even with that. Even that's a minimum. Yeah. And then he said, Kim said that John made her go back with him to the car again. The grandam that he had burned. It hadn't completely burned. So using lighter fluid, he ignited the car for a second time, which is why it was burned

53:39twice. Then got her VCR and a telephone answering machine. He had hidden beside a tree close to the car. Yeah. Wow. Then that's when they had dinner at Tracy Beechham's home. And he gave Mr. Beechham the VCR and answering machine to satisfy a debt. And then they discovered holy shit. This is a, these are murder items and threw them in a river. So the cop who took the statement from Kim said at this point, everything we have points to John, even though he's denying it, they said, you know, he has, he wouldn't give the cops a statement. They said, only John Robinson knows why he killed them. Until he tells me, I won't know why. This people are like, why would he kill a sister? What the hell? Then let's get Carla duck in the picture here. What she do? Carla duck is a friend of Janice's and she said she had heard Kim threaten to kill Janice at least twice. Oh, at least twice. Duck recalls once during this summer when she heard a message on Janice's answering machine

54:43that she claimed was Kim saying and she said, Kim called up and left a message and said she would kill Janice and her baby. So let's go take a turn. Put that on tape. Let me kill you and your baby bitch. Guys, this is wild. I get that you're in the middle of nowhere, but you have to realize there is a civilization going on around you. Right? I get out of this $800. That's pretty quiet. It's a life. Even though, if someone just had $600, this all could have been squelched. This is wild. This is something I will get a sitter and I will kill you and your baby. And your baby. I will get a sitter first though because I'm responsible. I leave my baby by herself. Now, I'm in debt $800. I'll go in debt $820. Fuck it. I don't care. Well, it's actually $835 because I did promise pizza. I promise pizza. I'm a good person. I tell. With the pizza.

55:43So. Yeah. So sometime after the message threat, Carla Duck and Janice went over to Kim Robinson's house, which sounds like a bad idea. To Kim and Janice became involved in an argument which led to a physical fight. This is just all trashy bad stuff here. Kim came, she said, quote, Kim came running out of the house, Rantin and Raven. A Rantin and a Raven. She said she'd see us both dead. Now, Carla's involved in this too. She's going to die too. So they asked Duck here who separated from her husband. If she had been romantically involved with John Robinson at any time because John and Kim Robinson were also separated during this time, she said, John has been to my house and I've been to his sister's house where he was staying because he, while they were separating, he was staying there. So then they said, did you have sex with John? And she said, no, we kissed on the mouth. Which is like, okay, now I get why his wife wants to murder you.

56:44That now we're making sense. This is the first thing that's fucking made sense in this episode so far. Okay. So the cops here, they talk about all this. It's a complicated relationship with drugs and money and just a mess here. They said, Janice and John were brother and sister, but there had been problems between the two primarily over money. He said, we received unconfirmed information that John and Timmy were involved with drug trafficking. John was supposed to have owed Janice and Tim $6 to $800 because of bad checks. Up for $800. So they arrest up for it's of $800. Wow. So Kim is arrested also. She turns herself into the sheriff's department. She is also charged. Same as John, two counts of first degree murder and arson. Oh, shit. You couldn't be more involved in the whole thing. You drove them there. You went and drove them all around, picked them up. And you know, in jail, John talks to an inmate and says that he burned the blood of the

57:46bloody clothes he wore while committing the murders and discarded the murder weapon in a gully quote where nobody would ever find it. There you go. They were doose. He's an idiot. He's probably on best. It's crazy. So they reduce Kim's bond from $100,000 to $50,000. Her mother says, well, my daughter has a ninth grade education, no job or money. So we're going to have to help her out if we want to get her out of here. They said that Kimberley's family should be able to make bond soon and that the evidence presented Monday, this is Kim's lawyer, was weak. What are you talking about? They have your whole statement of you describing exactly what happened. Yeah. And wounds that corroborate your story. That's not good. No, they said the only thing that was presented here today was that she carried her husband over to the crime scene. Maybe she ought to be punished, but not before a trial. Okay. July 27th, 1994.

58:47Some time goes by before the trial. John escapes from jail. You've got to be shit. Of course not. John, another guy accused murder Charles Gary Bruce, a federal prisoner named Frederick Zung and a guy named Tommy Poe. All I guess pulled apart the fence from a pole at McNairy County, just as complex and Selmer and escaped. They loosened four bolts and squeezed through an opening in the fence. Good job, everybody. Way to keep everyone inside. The fence is so unsecured that four guys can take time, eat one bolt and we're free murder. County, county, two murderers. Yeah. This is the escape sparked a huge man hunt, including federal state, county and so yeah, because there's more two murderers escaped here. Yeah. So few days later, July 29th, still on the loose. Yeah, find them. Oh my God. And these are like not good murderers too. I mean, there are. There's some serious.

59:48Kill the zone sister. Yeah. Yeah. The Bruce guys accused of murder and arson in connection with the deaths of federal witnesses in Benson County. These are bad people. These are bad, bad people. They have at least 30 federal state and local law enforcement officials combed the woods near the jail while a Memphis police helicopter armed with infrared heat ski guys seeking scope hovert overhead. It's a fucking mess. It's a fucking mess. Yeah. This is wild. They said it's a $4.2 million brand new jail and courtroom complex, which came under some criticism and local newspapers as a teak paneled white elephant. They said that the, yeah, the sheriff spokesman said that the men escape by removing retaining devices blah, blah, blah. They said the men have probably split up. They say, yeah. Wow. This is fucking crazy. They say also that there are certain leads of where some of them might be able to go.

1:00:51They said it was pure human error, gross negligence. The jailers whom they wouldn't name until a hearing have been suspended without pay pending a disciplinary hearing. Someone just wasn't watching where they were supposed to be watching. August 1st, they're finally captured. Well, at least two of them are. One ended up turning himself in. He showed back up at the jail and said, I'm here. Literally, just walked back up to the jail a couple days later. One working. Yeah. The other two, John and Tommy Poe are, this is from the newspaper, the two Chigger Bitten scratched up fugitives were arrested at Poe's mother's house. They were crawling around the woods for days. Yeah, they were just hanging out. The mother didn't even know they were there. She was like, I wasn't home. She didn't even know it was going on. And they said, you don't just charge mothers with harboring their sons. So they said they wouldn't charge her with harboring. Kimberly pleads guilty to two counts of voluntary manslaughter and setting fire at a personal property. Okay. The plea agreement is an exchange for testimony, obviously.

1:01:53And she will receive two eight year sentences and a four year sentence, which will all run concurrently. So eight years. They said she's going to plead guilty to two counts of voluntary manslaughter and she'll get that. So now the sentences run together shall only be required to serve 35% of eight years before she's eligible for parole. So the less than three and a half months, almost three years, less than three years. That's a man. Yeah. Wow. So late 94 here is John's trial. And the opening statement is just basically everything Kim said. They said that John Robinson produced a gun forced his sister and will granddam taped her hands together. She escaped. He chased her down. He beat her. He cut her throat. He fucking horrifying. And if he didn't do this, why do you escape? Exactly. And the other thing is this is the, for some reason it's a weird detail I keep getting stuck

1:02:55on is that he kept hacking at his brother-in-law until he got started to get blood on him. And then he was like, oh, this is gross. It's too much. I can't even get my hands dirty doing this. Of course he did that. Couldn't get blood on himself. Then went back to his sister and opened her throat. Opened her throat. That's wild. Wow. Now, the defense has another boogie man. They blame Michael Woody, the drug dealer that they were both working for allegedly. Michael Woody testifies, I ain't have shit to do with anything. You can say I'm a bad guy and a drug dealer, but I didn't kill anybody. And I'm not, you ain't pinning this on me, motherfucker. So that's that. The defense also says about Carla Duck, the one who said that she was the one making out with John and having Kim want to kill her. They said, obviously Mrs. Duck was having an affair with Mr. Robinson. During a fight, Mrs. Robinson said, I'll kill you. I don't put any credence to that. I call that non-evidence. That's what the defense says. Okay. Now, here's one of John's major arguments.

1:03:58I didn't do it. Your time of death is all off because the baby wasn't really alone for two days. That's how I'll prove it. Even though the medical examiner said that they've been dead for days, he said, yeah, he said the baby after 48 hours should have had dry defecation on her and should have been on the verge of starvation. So the jury did hear evidence that the child immediately consumed two bottles upon being discovered starving. They did not hear evidence though pertaining to the child's examination at the hospital nor did the record indicate whether any indications of urination or bowel movements were found in the child's crib. So everyone out there at home who was really wondering about this baby shit. I don't have that information for you. Baby, please. Why not? Why not? They have other witnesses. They have the cop who interviewed Kim. They said, he said, Kim said to me that she didn't like Janice. She said, I wanted Janice dead anyway. That's why it hurts so much.

1:05:00Okay. She said that John told Kim, I did it for you. That's all you talk about. You want to Janice dead? I didn't like her anyway. All that kind of shit. So the cop who took Kim's statement goes on to say, you know, describes it, freaking out because John freaked out because Janice was dead. And yada yada yada basically Kim drove back to Scotts Hill. John was to call her, but an hour or so later showed up at the apartment. The whole mess of the night, he's testifying to it. Everyone's like, whoa, holy shit. Kim testifies that the, I guess the Barnets were not supposed to be home is what she's saying on the stand now. She's kind of tweaked her testimony a little bit. She said they're not, they, yeah, so they were going to just rob them to burglarize the house, but they were home. So they'd all had to go like this. And cross examination, she said her husband's story changed after she was arrested and charged with the same murder. She said Robinson, John told her that Mike Woody, who supplied the drugs to her and her

1:06:04husband, killed the two while Robinson was present and threatened to kill Kim and their son. If John told anybody about it, she says this, understand now that's what he showed up. Well, he showed up when we were on the way there to kill them, but he already done it. Yeah. Well, we were all trying to rob him. That's the bad story. We was going to rob him and we showed up and there was already a guy there like killing him and everything. So you know, but that's literally what it was. So that's, that's Kim accuses him because that's John's defenses new story and she's on board with John still. So in closing, the defense is saying Michael Woody, Michael Woody, Michael Woody, he's the guy who did it. Quote, dealing drugs is with caused all of this. It's the Michael Woody's of the world that prey on John Robinson, Tim Barnett and the Janice Barnets of the world. He's just a victim. He's saying he's and says, I'm not saying John Robinson's a saint.

1:07:05Don't get me wrong. But he did not kill his sister or his brother-in-law. The state has not fully investigated this case. The parents of John Robinson need better answers than that because they're also the parents of the victim, Janice. So it's a good point. Yeah. The prosecution said you can't really get full justice when a couple of people are chopped to death, but I can't blame John Robinson's attorney. If my client was charged, I would find the biggest ugliest, meanest person to try to pin it on to, meaning the Michael Woody. It's generally hard. Yeah. I would. He said the, so yeah, the verdict comes in to an hour and 50 minutes and they convict him two counts of first degree murder and one count of arson. Rida testifies Timmy's mom and said, Amy knew her mommy and her daddy. That's the daughter for at least two or three months after we got her when she'd see someone with blonde hair. She'd want to go to them. We keep a picture of Janice and Timmy in the living room.

1:08:06She'll look at it and say mommy and daddy. She said, nobody wins. The Robinson's have lost and we have lost. Amy doesn't have a mommy and daddy. It's hard to make it in this world without loving parents. Timmy was 21, but he was still my baby. He was sweet and gentle and loved life. Nothing can bring him back, but I do feel John Robinson needs to be punished. I feel life without parole is the closest thing to that. Now John and Janice's father gets on the stand, Jim Reverend Jim. He knows how to make a public spectacle of himself and sob and all that shit. He gets up there and he's sobbing begging for mercy. All that kind of thing and he said, a lot of lives have been struck. My wife and I have three children. We've lost one and we're fixing to lose another one. It's a great burden to bear. We've all lost a great, we've all lost a great loss. I trade places with Timothy or Janice. I would even trade places with John, but I can't.

1:09:07He said the drug problem is destroying the whole world. He belongs to. Yeah. What about straws son? What about that? No more straws, dammit. That's where the paper straw movement came from, is this shit? So the jury instructions here, they said that they have to find existence of one or more of the statutory aggravating circumstances. The murder was committed for the avoidance of the avoiding interfering or preventing a lawful arrest. Committed was engaged in committing or wasn't accomplice in the commission of another crime. So all that kind of thing. The jury found that the definition on statutory aggravating circumstances, number two, meaning it was committed while the defendant was engaging in committing or wasn't accomplice in the commission of or was attempting to commit or fleeing after committing or attempting to commit any first degree murder robbery, burglary, theft or kidnapping, which could be multiple of those.

1:10:07They took an hour and 15 minutes and said, you, sir, may fuck off life without parole, two sentences consecutive. Oh boy. Oh, and a two year sentence for the arson also consecutive. What about the escape? The escape, that's a separate issue. They don't do that in this trial. That's a totally separate trial. Yeah. One in Janice's mom, Barbara said, I don't feel justice has been done in Decatur County. She said they need to go after the one who did it and not be afraid of him, meaning they're not going out with his drug dealer because they're so scared of him. So they're just pinning it on her son just to James. He's willing to overdice people up with a manual lawnmower with a, it's something out of a hog bucket. That's. Yeah. Wow. The appeal, 95, the appeals and he said that, you know, the challenges, the sufficiency of the evidence. He said that two to three weeks after the arrest, someone else, quote, committed the murders

1:11:11and that there was a grossly insufficient investigation into his allegation because he said, I know who did it. He told the Michael Woody did it and they're like, sure, he did, you know, they looked into it. He had an alibi, by the way, Michael Woody was at like a sporting event or some public thing that night. He was with a bunch of people who's impossible. It was basically the tough part of trying to blame somebody else is that you don't know where they were. You better know where they are. Yeah, they could have been on fucking television at that point doing a live interview or as long as you have no idea. That's a problem. That's a problem. Also, spousal privilege. He says that the testimony of his wife should not have been admitted. But yeah. So there's that. Also said that, you know, findings of fact by trial judges are, are afforded the weight of jury verdicts and are conclusive. If there's any evidence to support them, we find that the record supports the trial judge finding that the attorney had not received confidential information, which is another thing. Accordingly, the trial court did not abuse its discretion in admitting Mrs. Robinson's

1:12:13testimony. Obviously, there's plenty of evidence. You can keep fucking off. And that's where he remains. Fucking off in a prison in Tennessee. So there you go, everybody. That is Parsons, Tennessee. And just a goddamn mess of a fucking terrible, terrible, terrible disaster. He killed his sister for nothing. Nothing. And her husband for a 21 year old father of three whose life was already going to be so fucking hard. There's already farming and method involved. This is, it's rough to begin with. So holy shit. So anyway, there you go. That's Parsons, Tennessee. If you enjoyed that or enjoy anything we do, please get on whatever app you're on and give us five stars. We can't tell you how much that helps the show. Really Netflix thumbs up. Really help a ton. So thank you for doing that. Everyone who has, we appreciate the balls off of you or you don't have balls to appreciate whatever you got off of you. So thank you so much. Thanks for all that you do for us.

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