By Order of the Faithfuls: One of the Greats w/ Kim Spradlin Wolfe (Survivor)

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traders, and survivors.

You're in for another episode

of By Order the Faithfuls,

Wells Adams Alongside Dolores Catania.

Dolores, you look all dolled up.

Are you filming today?

No, just for you.

I figured I'd...

Just...

Because I like when you tell me I look pretty.

This is every day for you.

Oh, you're the...

Well, you're such a good guy.

I love it.

How you been?

I've been good.

Yeah.

Since I've seen you, my daughter got engaged.

So I looked like she got engaged like on the top of a mountain.

They were...

They were snowboarding,

and I didn't realize there was a time difference there in Aspen.

So that's why we didn't get the call when I expected it.

She was really shocked.

She was surprised.

And I'm happy for them.

So that's now three weddings in the family coming up.

Oh, man.

Well, do you like this guy?

I do.

I like him.

They're in love.

Young love.

They love each other.

So, you know, I had the man talk with him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did he ask...

Did he ask for your permission to do this?

Yes, he did.

Okay, good.

That's nice.

Yes, he did.

Well, tell your daughter and your soon-to-be son-in-law.

Congratulations, and muscle.

Thank you.

And what have you been doing?

I'm in New York right now.

My wife's finishing her Broadway run.

So I flew out here to help her move back.

And I finally get my wife back.

And she'll no longer be making out with Jonathan Groff eight times a week.

Isn't that nice?

Wow.

And it's like you guys are seeing each other for the first time.

Again, you know, I'm all about long distance sometimes and missing each other.

That is so important to miss each other.

And to be as confident...

Not confident.

What it is to have the trust in your relationship that you have.

I really think you have an amazing relationship.

I love the two of you.

I think she's adorable.

I love when you post pictures of her dancing with the dogs.

And she's so cute.

I can't...

You guys are a great couple.

And I love it.

But speaking of being apart for a long time, you know, my show is coming back.

I got nervous yesterday.

Are you excited about this?

Yes, but there's new people coming on.

Well, and I don't know who they are.

So you know, you really...

It's better I believe the devil, you know, than the devil you don't.

True.

So after...

You know, I feel bad that the whole cast didn't come back.

That's rough.

You know, a little rough.

Why...

What's the politics behind that?

Why don't all the cast come back?

They not want to or they not invited.

Oh, no.

There was a shake-up.

NBC felt that they needed to move some things around.

Mm-hmm.

So that's what they did.

And yeah, so it's bittersweet.

But it's back to work.

Well, I'm very excited about that.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Are you going to watch my show?

I absolutely am going to watch your show.

I mean, this is going to be the first...

The first housewives show I think I've ever watched.

I want you to start getting into housewives, well,

because being a gentleman like you are,

I want to know your opinion on things.

Like, I like your point of view on things,

and I like the way you articulate it.

And it's always just very proper and nice and just right.

So I would love to hear your opinion on housewives' shows.

And someone who I've worked with in the past,

in Ashley, I can Eddie, and Jared Abel,

I'm actually going to be on the show.

That's going to be...

Well, no, that's on Rhode Island, yeah.

New Jersey is going to be back.

But Rhode Island's coming out and you know you have to watch that.

Yes.

I will watch it.

Maybe we should recap that.

We definitely absolutely should.

And just to give you a little teaser, she cries sometimes.

Yeah, I remember.

I remember a lot.

Well, I'm excited about today's episodes.

Today, we've got Kim Spradlin Wolf,

who's an American reality TV personality,

and interior designer best known for winning Survivor.

One world back in 2012,

taking home the million dollar grand prize and being voted.

The sprint player of the season by the fans.

After her initial win,

she returned to compete on Survivor winners at war in 2020,

where she placed none.

Following Survivor, Kim transitioned into the interior design space

with her business, Kim Wolf Holmes.

She also hosts a home renovation show on HGTV,

including why the heck did I buy this house

with her husband, Brian Wolf?

Please welcome to, by order of the Faithful Survivor Edition,

Kim Spradlin Wolf.

Hi guys.

Welcome to the show, Kim.

Thanks so much for taking some time and chatting with us.

Are you watching season 50?

Are you entrenched like we are?

Oh, yes.

I were very much watching season 50.

I actually have not watched since 40.

When I went on winners at war,

I like just took a hiatus from watching.

And so this is my first season back watching,

and I am absolutely loving it.

It's also the first time I've ever watched with my kids

who are 9, 10, and 11,

and that has completely changed.

I made it so much more fun to watch,

and they have lots of thoughts and opinions.

And so it's been great.

Oh, that is so cute.

Did you teach them a lot about it?

Well, they had never really watched.

They came on TV on the family visit,

and they were like three, four, and five.

And so this summer they started watching for the first time.

They watched my first season, which was 24,

which was, you know, the ice ages of survivor.

And particularly the oldest is like very into it

and wants to talk about it and tell me all of this thought.

So it's fun.

We're having fun.

They have an understanding that you are like one of the greats

in survivor lore.

They do not think so.

I told them, but they are like, we don't see how.

We don't think that you are good,

or also they watched my first season,

and they're like, you look like AI, you know.

Someday you're going to have kids that don't think that you

and your wife are cool.

Don't worry.

Yeah.

Exactly.

You'll know how we feel.

You know, being one of the greats when you watch it back,

what do you think it was about your game that really stuck out to people

and had you kind of win that first season

and then get ninth the second time you went on?

Gosh, I think the farther I get from it,

the more it just seems like such a crazy, you know,

fluke thing that it just went so well for me.

That's really the thing that I remember most is just how

everything fell into place.

It was so easy, there was truly not like one vote

that I did not know where it was going.

And so it was just this like easy path to the end.

It was weird, almost kind of like eerily perfect.

And then the second time was the complete opposite of that.

So I've now been on that side of the table where it's like,

I didn't know most of the things and everything surprised me

and I was always on the outs and I was so frustrated the whole time.

So I feel like I've kind of watched these like polar extreme

journeys on my two seasons, you know.

So now that you know both sides,

is there a way that you can cement yourself in this game?

I guess they're an actual, I call my game a fluke on traitors.

So I don't know, I wouldn't, I think it changes all the time.

But is there a way to do that?

I think it's, you know, I think certain people maybe have,

you know, if you think of like an arsenal of tools

that you get to put in your tool about when you go play,

I think some people have, you know,

a wider variety of tools that they're disposal to play with

and have better chance of cementing themselves into something

that has some longevity.

But I do think so much of it is, is luck.

You know, I mean, so much of it is where you land.

And I think it's really difficult.

I think the game has changed so much.

I mean, winners at war was a great example of this.

There's so much change in movement from day to day that, you know,

it just, it really amplifies kind of the chaos of it

because it's constantly moving.

I think it's a really hard thing to stay on top of.

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Do you have any advice for Rizzo going forward?

Does he need to pump the brakes on some of this dialogue he's having about being one of the greats?

Yeah, I did think it was so fascinating watching some of the other players talk to him last night at Tribal

about like he hadn't seen himself yet,

and I do think that was such, I mean, you all know,

you go on reality TV and then you watch yourself back,

and there are certain things that are great,

and there are certain things that are just wildly humbling about it,

and he has not had that moment yet.

I think that is a trying process to watch yourself on national television

and get all the feedback positive and not positive.

Rizzo just feels so young to me when I watch him.

I mean, he just, he is.

And you can sense that, but I love his confidence and like, you know,

effervescence and that he is, you know, kind of unshakable in that way.

I'll be so curious to see if Survivor continues on.

He's used to play like how he, you know, ages and kind of matures as a player,

but he's funny.

My kids love him.

Yeah, you can see that he's like a puppy.

I feel like he's the, he's the puppy of the group.

But what do you think separates a good survivor player from a great survivor player?

That's a great question.

So they're just, you know, I feel like when you look across the board at the greats,

they're also different.

You're one of the greats.

In case you don't realize that.

That's the dust off the bottle up.

Yeah, I feel so funny doing this. I haven't done it in forever.

I think the greats.

I think it's a lot and how you treat people because I really think when it comes down to the end,

like all these, you know, all the chaos happens, all the swaps, all the shifts.

And I, one of my core beliefs and I don't, I don't know if I,

I got to think about if I still really believe this.

But I think I do is that, you know, at the end of the day, you get to the end

and people really vote for, yes, the person that they think played a great game.

But they vote for the person that they want to give the money to.

And I think you have to kind of show up as someone that people want to hand a million dollars to.

I don't think people want to give a million dollars to an asshole, you know.

Truth.

And I think that's underestimated.

Yeah, and you can be a villain.

You can, you know, be cutthroat and be strategic and still be likable.

I don't think people get that.

Yeah, I think some people miss on just the connection part, you know,

I think there's even some players this season that like, you know,

and again, this could all come down to the edit.

I didn't watch Genevieve's original season, but, you know,

there's a little bit of this thing that she's doing to Aubrey,

which doesn't feel likable to me.

And it's subtle.

And I think Genevieve's getting a great edit.

I think she seems likable, but there's a way it kind of feels a little bit like the plastics

from Mean Girls, where it's like Aubrey's clearly on the outs.

And there's sort of a condescension to her.

And I think that's where it gets interesting and emerge, you know,

where potentially Aubrey gets with Aussie.

And all these got his foot in the door with, you know, a group.

And now Aubrey goes over and Genevieve's on the outs.

So it's just, it's so fascinating.

Speaking of edits, that's, that's, I've been wanting to talk to

past survivor winners about the edit.

You know, I come from this bachelor bachelor in Paradise World,

where a lot of people talk about, well, I got a bad edit.

They villainized me.

That's not really how it went.

And you're going back to Rizzo.

Rizzo hasn't seen, you know, himself represented on TV yet.

Is that a thing that you guys talk about that like so and so got a bad edit

or was made to look in a different light than they really were?

Yeah, I would be curious to hear what y'all's experience has been

being, you know, from like different show world.

Oh, I could tell you mine.

I think for me personally, every season that I have played

and watched back and some of the ones where I just know the people personally,

there's obvious this like amplification of a character,

but they always feel somewhat in line with like how I know this person to be.

I've never seen them take someone and completely turn them into someone else.

It feels like it's, you know, you boil it down.

It's like a reduction, right?

And so, but I always feel like the person, I'm like, you did say that.

You did show up in that energy or in that spirit.

And, you know, you just got a lot of it all at once in 30 minutes.

But, you know, I've never seen them just like completely, you know,

make someone look some way to put like the words in their mouth that they didn't say.

Yeah.

I feel like coming from reality where I come from.

But everyone who feels stupid about the way they acted kind of to echo what you're saying,

or to say, oh, that's not what it, because your brain plays tricks on you, right?

You're like, I don't remember it to be that way, but it's clearly the cameras don't lie.

So, a lot of people want to blame it on the edit when they don't like the way they looked

or the way that they came up.

And it is amplified, yes, because it is in production and they want to make it look like a great scene

and it's boiled down to this 30 minutes or whatever.

But yeah, I don't really blame bad edits.

I don't believe in bad edits.

I believe like you actually did that and gave it to them to put up there.

I definitely think people try to show up the way they think production wants them to be.

And they, you know, are trying to like rise to, you know, some character that they feel like they've been casted to portray.

And sometimes that goes really well.

And sometimes that doesn't go as well.

You have to accept, if you're a villain, you have to accept that you're a villain.

Be a good, be a fun one, be a fun one, exactly.

I've always found that like to your point of like, you think you're being cast as a certain character.

If you don't really know who you are going into any show, then you're going to act like something that you think you're supposed to be,

which doesn't come across as authentic, which generally comes across as off-putting to the audience,

because they can sense something's not right about you.

And that's an easy way to make someone look villainous.

But from my standpoint, it's much easier to make someone look,

it's much easier to make an asshole look good than it is to make a good guy look like an asshole.

And so usually what I find is that more often than not when I'm watching a pack, I'm thinking, wow,

that person got such a good edit in comparison to what I remember experiencing during the show,

and how everyone felt about them.

But you know, actually, I mean.

I thought I could agree with.

Yeah.

I feel like I liked less in person than I liked on the show.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You come from, you know, back in the day, you're having an OG player.

Do you think the new era players have it just as hard as you had on your seasons?

You don't know.

I wonder that, you know, I do feel like sometimes these old era players have more of a target on their back,

but then you watch it and you're like, they shouldn't because in a lot of ways they're behind strategically,

because they had this very different experience of, you know, real bonds and real relationships with it,

which I think, you know, don't really seem to stand at the test of time in modern survivors.

So I think that these new era players, you know, in some ways,

are going to have just as big of a target on their backs as, you know, Colby or Ozzy or Coach,

who I don't think are just these wild strategic threats.

You know, they're kind of more of these like, you know, good old boys.

See, I think Syri is a threat.

Terrifying. She's terrifying to me.

I love Syri, but out of respect, I want her off.

I'm nervous for everyone around her.

Now, you know, Rizzo, trust her and he's doing all these things with her.

And she's going to eat them alive.

Like, you know, I just feel like at the end, she'll just eviscerate you.

Yeah, I'm so curious to watch Syri's journey because I could not agree more with you.

So, you know, I feel like she is like truly a mastermind and is for everyone will say,

probably the most dangerous player out there.

Is she a sitting duck because of that, you know, and at any point there,

but I kind of think this is that part of the game where it gets scary as they merge

and everything gets reshuffled and somebody needs her.

And then she works her way in and there you go.

You're taking Syri into a final five, final six, you know, it's, it's amazing that she's

like, I did this long.

I mean, it blows my mind.

And she won traders on her own.

I mean, she's just really hard.

Do you think so far the show is going in the right direction?

I personally love it.

I haven't seen the last, you know, handful of seasons.

But to me, this is the first season I've watched in a really long time.

Yeah, you were saying, yeah.

But just that feels like survivor as I loved it.

You know, it was like this mega fan of the show starting the first year at aired

and we would, and college make rice bowls and light teaky torches in our backyard.

We watched every episode.

And so this has that feeling to me.

I don't know how they did it or how they brought it back or how they lost it in the first place.

But I know this one to me feels special.

So there's nothing you would change so far.

Well, I think, you know, I've heard like the, the rumblings of not loving,

like the celebrity edition for sure.

You know, like my kids didn't know who Zach Brown band was.

And so they were kind of like, why are we watching the sky?

You know, I think that's the only thing to me that sort of feels like how when they brought in all the, the tricks.

You know, in the last 10 years, I feel like they added all these things.

That sort of felt like a distraction from just watching the game.

And I think the celebrity edition, you know, could potentially feel that way.

But I think it's fun for me as someone who played survivor.

And as a fan of Billie Eilish, I think it's so cool that Billie Eilish was watching, you know,

mentioned in every episode, which is a lot.

It's a lot.

But I, you know, it's always fun.

I'm like, oh, how cool that like Michelle Obama watched, you know, my season of survivor.

That excites me.

I'm sure y'all can resonate with that.

Yeah.

She watches Housewives of New Jersey too.

She loves it.

She was saying it the other day.

We were like, okay.

I never like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I have to say, you know, did you, do you still keep in touch with the people that you used to cook

rice bowls with and light torches to watch survivor in college?

Did they follow you through and were they excited when you got on?

Yeah.

Some of them.

I moved around so much growing up that I didn't have like a real home base.

My parents moved 16 times before I graduated college.

So I feel like I was just this great nomad until, you know, around my late 20s.

Now, you know, I have roots down in San Antonio.

But before that, it was just I was bopping around.

But yes, I do have lifelong friends.

And of course, everybody was like, what in the world, Kim?

Stradlin is going on survivor.

This is crazy.

That's kind of exciting.

Yeah.

Exciting for them too.

But what was the hardest thing for you in this game?

I'm always curious.

What was so, and everybody's different.

This question is answered so differently.

Yeah.

I think it's the like, for me, it was maybe the guilt coming back.

Like that was heavier than I anticipated it being.

You know, you try to live your life and like, you know, honor people and have these great relationships

and navigate your life in a way that feels really like healthy and beautiful.

And then you have to go in this very clear, you know, opposite energy and lie and backstab.

And, you know, kind of do whatever you can do to make your way to the end.

Which is the game to me.

I've always been like, it's a giant game of sorry.

And it is a game.

And that's why this whole honor thing with coach and Joe and all that kind of is so interesting to me.

Because there's really no way.

I mean, I guess you're choosing what you're honoring.

You know, and stay true to that and you tell yourself that you played honorably.

But I assure you that a lot of the people that play the game with these people that say they're being honorable

would completely disagree, you know, that they were honorable.

So that whole part of navigating it, it was just that was tough.

I've found that success usually comes with a fair amount of delusion.

And I think that that's what some of these guys are.

They're a little delusional about their honor in these games.

You know, you were a part of a strong female alliance in the first season.

Do you think that?

Do you think alliances really work or like eventually you're going to get stabbed in the back?

So it doesn't really matter.

Both.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think this is, this is an interesting point in the game to me where we are right now in 50.

Because this is where I always look back and I'm like, okay, who is, who is emerging kind of as the strong alliances from these three new tribes from the tribal swap?

And then you have to go back and go, okay, and who were they aligned with in their initial tribes?

And where do those two things come together?

Like, who really is in the best position?

Not only from the swap, but from the initial tribe as they go back together.

And you can start to see how this is going to sort of, you know, break out.

And so then they're going to have the people from their initial alliance.

Only a handful of people will have to be in conflict and choose between those two.

Some people are going to be able to honor both their first alliance and their second alliance for a while.

And I think those people are in a really good position if that makes them, you know, they're kind of buried in the middle.

Rizzo is going for the female alliance, I see.

Or I think there's going for just about whatever.

I mean, I do think that's a new era trait that seems to serve some people really well and others.

Not I think Emily's in a good spot.

You know, I think she's kind of, she's been funny and done some funny things.

I think either she's in great, grave danger in the next few episodes or she's in a good spot.

I feel like D's in a good spot.

I really like Camilla for it.

I think she's very clever.

I think that was very smart for her to like kind of shift allegiance there and vote out Charlie.

It's just going, it's going to be so interesting to see how this plays out.

Oh, yeah.

What I would it, it makes me because I haven't eaten yet today and I'm about to pass out.

And it's only like 11 o'clock or 10.

But how your challenge beast.

And did you train a lot before you went and are you just kind of showed up and I'm me.

Yeah, I trained a little.

I was an athlete growing up, but like very average above average high school athlete.

Like I was nothing remarkable.

But I've always been like a tomboy, you know, like I love to throw a football.

And so I went and got a grappling hook and like trained in a few things in my backyard.

But I think you have to look at like who I'm competing against.

And I don't mean that to demean.

You know, Chelsea or Alicia had her, you know, Tarzan or whatever.

But it's like going into winners at war.

Like that was physically very different competing against that group of people.

Then it was the people that I was competing against for individual immunity in one world, you know.

But you're not eating.

Like how do you do it?

Eating part is awful.

I will not lie to you about that.

And both of my seasons, the first season I was on the island 39 days.

The second time I was on the island 36 days because we had the edge of extinction.

I lost 22 pounds the first time, 17 the next time.

Like we are not eating.

It's miserable.

The sleeping's miserable.

What I love about it is how miserable you are.

It's just a kind of low that we don't get in our real lives.

And so you just get so clear.

You get so clear on who you are, what you miss, what you love, what you want to do when you go back.

Like it really just like cuts all the crap.

You know, and you just come back with like such clear purpose.

So I love that part.

Sometimes I miss that part, you know, I get that is getting that.

What did you miss the most?

What did you find out about yourself that you realized that you missed?

I think I realized like I've always been a very social person and had, you know, been like a 25 friend person.

And I spend a lot of time with a lot of people.

And I realize I really only really missed, you know, three or four people.

And I don't prioritize those relationships enough because I spread myself so thin.

You know, and so there were these, this just felt so clear.

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And now look, I'm like, they're all going to be gone.

And, you know, seven, eight years, they'll all be in college.

And, you know, I don't want to have missed that.

So that's kind of a big one.

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Speaking of season 50, one, are you upset that you didn't get the call?

Or maybe you did, you turned it down.

And then two, who's playing the best game?

Who are you really watching that you're excited to see?

Definitely not sad not to be there did not get it.

I don't think anyone from 40 is on 50.

So I did notice that.

So I didn't feel sad to not get it.

So yeah, it's better.

I just I in my mind.

They didn't ask me.

Um, I like, I like D.

I didn't watch season.

I think D's in a good spot.

I love Christian.

He's so fun.

I don't think he's going to make the long haul.

But I really like have enjoyed watching him very much.

I really love Camilla.

I did watch Camilla season because my kids were watching it.

And I think she's super smart and super strategic.

And I think she's in a good spot.

I think Emily could like go either way right now.

But I don't see, I don't see like an Aussie coach.

Jonathan, you know, cold.

I think I don't see Rizzo for it.

I don't know if he has the, like the, the, the well,

the depth of like experience to draw on to like get through

what he's about to walk through.

And he's got to be tired.

Yeah, they've got to be really drained.

I mean, I think about how horrible I felt when I got back

for months.

I mean, there's like a whole like refeeding syndrome thing

where you're body.

Really?

But a lot of gastro stuff people end up in the hospital

as they like reoclimate.

And so I'm sure he just, you know, he's so lean anyway.

Like, yeah, he's got to be super depleted.

So that's impressive that he did it.

I liked that.

You know what?

I love the most.

That's impressive.

Besides the fact that you're a winner and a fan favorite

and all these things.

I'm excited about HGTV.

I have to ask you about it.

Tell me all about it.

That's like winner for me.

I filmed my own HGTV show called Why the Heck Did I Buy This House?

And then kind of had another wake-up call about going back

to my family and being present.

But last year they asked Chelsea Meisner, who is one of my

dearest friends and also was on Survivor One World with me.

She was in the final three with me.

She went on to do Bravo Southern Charm.

But we are one of the teams competing on HGTV's Rock the Block,

which comes out in a couple of weeks.

And it's like their number one renovation competition show,

four teams, four identical houses, who did it best.

So we filmed that in Vegas together in the fall, which was a blast.

And I'm really excited about my house.

Please come to my house.

I want you here so badly.

I'm here for it, Dolores.

I have, I own a home where my daughter lives now with her five dogs.

And I re-did the house.

Didn't come out so great.

And I need to make a dog proof house.

Can we make a show about that?

Yes.

We still make it look good.

I know a great dog house.

Absolutely.

Thank you.

A dog proof house?

No.

Can you explain that for me?

No.

Oh, my dog.

It's a 3200 square foot dog house.

Yeah.

I know you know what I'm talking about.

It's definitely possible, right?

You just wanted to be bullet proof.

You don't have to worry about anything.

But it still looks really elegant.

Yeah.

We need the furniture for them to be able to lay on that it doesn't get ruined.

What kind of material?

All the woodworks ruined because they just found the windows.

And you could film Big Brother for dogs.

Let's do it.

The dogs could vote each other out.

There you go.

Well, you could produce it.

All right.

I'm done.

Well, last question, Kim.

What did you enjoy doing more survivor or HGTV shows?

So different.

One has food and beds.

Yeah.

It's a lot longer.

I would say survivor.

Yeah.

One's got a million dollars at the end.

The survivor was like, I always say it was like Narnia for me.

You know, like having watched it and so obsessed and then literally coming out through the forest,

seeing the challenges, hearing Jeff Probe's voice.

Like, I'll never forget it.

It was magical.

Thank you so much for coming on by order of the Faithfuls.

We're going to have you back on next episode to recap all of episode five real quick before we let you go.

Where could people find you?

Where could people follow you and exactly when is the HGTV show coming out?

Great question.

It airs April 13th.

I don't know what time on HGTV.

I'm on Instagram occasionally and other than that, you really can't find me.

I'm just hiding out at my house.

It's really warm.

Thank you guys.

Thank you for having me.

It was fun.

Thank you.

Thank you, Kim.

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