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Ever wanted to know what happens when two professional women trade their high heels for hiking boots and venture into the wilderness? Let's just say it involves lost tents, midnight floods, and plenty of laughter along the way.

Resilience isn't just about bouncing back from serious life challenges—it's about finding humor in those everyday moments when nothing goes according to plan. In this completely unplanned episode (thanks to a no-show guest), Natalie and Pam dive into their most memorable camping misadventures and what these experiences taught them about flexibility, perspective, and the power of a good laugh.

From Natalie's terrifying tale of waking up with a literal river running through her tent during a torrential downpour to Pam's childhood memory of being given nothing but a tarp and some string to build shelter, these stories highlight a fundamental truth: resilience often comes wrapped in uncomfortable moments that later become our favorite stories to tell.

You'll learn about different camping personalities—from the perpetually stressed city-mindset campers to the danger-seeking selfie-takers—and how they mirror our approaches to life's challenges. The hosts introduce their ultimate resilience mantra, "Did you die?", a humorous but powerful reminder to maintain perspective when facing disappointments large and small.

Next time you're facing a frustrating situation, just ask yourself: "What would Pam and Natalie do?" (Spoiler: It involves laughing, making a plan, and possibly recording a podcast about it.)

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Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is for general informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The co-hosts of this podcast are not medical professionals. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on this podcast. Reliance on any information provided by the podcast hosts or guests is solely at your own risk.

Pamela Cass is a licensed broker with Kentwood Real Estate
Natalie Davis is a licensed broker with Keller Williams Realty Downtown, LLC