CHIEFS SQUAD SHOW: Is Patience WEARING THIN with Josh Simmons?! Trey Smith SENDS WEEK ONE MESSAGE!

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2:05Where did JC Pearson there? Remember today's episode is brought to you by Kalshi for a limited time. Download the Kalshi app, use code Lockdown to get $10 when you trade $10 was a message sent from the podium to Chiefs offensive lineman Josh Simmons. We got reporters getting called into the principles office, man. We'll dissect it all as well as trace Smith restructuring his deal. What that allows Kansas City to do entering 2026 is Casey ready for week one. We dissect this age old question as we look forward to Monday night football between the Chiefs and the Broncos. Before we do any of that, we appreciate y'all like, comment, subscribe, first listen, every dayers club, everybody salute y'all. We see the comments already. We'll get to some comments, questions, criticisms and concerns later in the show. We got some time here on the Saturday. So we'll do that. Let's start with Josh Simmons. I was looking before we started to get the exact quote. So I want to make sure we get everything correct because I noted the comments will get

3:06on us. So I want to make sure we get our, our source to direct you. Get on me. Yeah. That's fine. Y'all can get on me. Part of the quote from Trace Smith that has gone viral on chiefs social media lately. Quote, I just don't like putting my teammates out in a position where they're trying to take extra reps for me or leave my team hanging. Not being my best a lot of times. I'm a little hard headed in that regard. If I'm not at my best, it's not best for the team. The other guys are willing and able to do that. I've always been sort of a guy that's like, if I'm able to go, I'm trying to go and give it as much as I have regardless. Here's where it gets good. You're never going to feel 100% playing football. It's just part of the job and part of the responsibility. Like Eric, the enemy says we signed up for it at the end of the day. I signed a contract. So it's my job to be out there. JC Pearson, people are taking that quote and there's a little bit more to the story. We'll get into it a little bit as this conversation evolves, but people are taking

4:07that quote at the end of the day. I signed a contract. So it's my job to be out there and they're looking down the unit and they're looking at somebody else who has had some availability concerns. Do you think this was an intentional message sent or do you think it just kind of happened that way? Both. But yeah, I think it was a message sent because everything he said was 100% true. And yeah, you did sign a contract for a whole lot of money, right? And your job is to, if you can get out there, you got to get out there. I know I always talk about the old school and all that, but man, and like Tray said, you're never going to be 100% ever. Something is always going to be herving. But if it's not broken, if it's not dislocated, if it's not to the point where you can't just go play, then you got to get out there.

5:08You're not going to be 100%. So you got to, you know, to sum it all up, I think he sent the message to say, young man, you got tough enough, bro, it's time to go. You got to toughen up. Darren, I know you saw the chatter and I know you were on this when we were having a tackle conversation around the draft. You were saying, hey, I'm not fully sold on the rookie, the diaper dandy. It sounds like maybe his teammates are either. Well, a couple of things because I have a feeling I know where this conversation is going a little bit later. So let me get this part out the way first from one for me individually and someone that covers the team along as you like, if I have a question or if I feel like someone may be directed towards somebody towards somebody, I'll just go ask that particular player. I mean, you know, I'll just go ask the player themselves and I want to do it at a public

6:10setting, unless they're at the podium. So obviously I wasn't there, but two things can be true without what I'm actually being true. That is, it could have been a message sent to Josh Simmons through him, but the thing is, that's not to me, no entracement, that's not as M.O. He can just say something directly and as I'm sure he would have to, you know, to Josh Simmons, if that's how he felt, he doesn't need to go and say something at the podium because that's just not his, that's not the type of person that he is. And so, and so I think when he said that, he was talking most about himself because don't forget, we were wondering whether or not Trent Smith was going to go for week number one. And so it's sort of the fact that he actually played in that pre-season game, caught a lot of us by surprise, including myself and with that, the game, I was like, oh, damn, he's playing in the game. So I don't think it was a matter of him because he is the one that signed the big contract, you know, last season. So to me, I think he was just referring to himself because it was a situation last year,

7:13I think that he reverted back to where, you know, saying where he was hurt, I think the Patrick got hurt. I think Patrick had hurt these before or after he came back. And so, you know, I think he took the ownership of himself about being available and being able to come out and play and stuff like that. So while his overall message about the contract and what you do can be taken in any different direction and if you want to apply to Josh Simmons, that's up to you. But I think it was just more a situation where he was asking the question as it relates to how he is and the China that made him, because look, we were talking about whether he was going to be available to play for a week and let him whether or not Patrick to play. If we got questions about all these linemen actually playing. So you get some tennis in there. I hope you know that. You waste a lot of time for that. I mentioned it like it last week when I was leaving that stadium.

8:20I was getting a call from Arrowhead about, hey, are you still here? We need to talk to you. So look, hey, so, so what we've been talking about a little bit later. So what we've been talking about a little bit later. You got, you got, you got in trouble. I don't know. We talked about a little bit later. What we talking about a little bit later, you know, transition in that right now because I think it's part of the conversation. Our good friend Nate Taylor, who we know very well, was at the athletic floor while as Eddie S. P. N. he went on his platform and I believe the quote was some of the teammates in the offensive linemen. I'm paraphrasing here so they don't hold me exactly, but they were feeling annoyed by some of the availability concerns surrounding Josh Simmons as they try to make this push for Dynasty 2.0. Then later in the day, we get this tweet from Nate Taylor quote, my comments on yesterday's podcast included inaccurate information after chats with those with knowledge of the situation. I was wrong to say that Trace Smith quote after yesterday's practice were in any way directed towards Josh Simmons. He's one of my apologies to Trace and everyone.

9:21He didn't send that under his own volition. He didn't send that because he wanted to. He said of that because the chief said, come here Nate. We got to talk. We got a chat. Wow. Well, OK. I'm wrong, I'm wrong and and and a couple of things. Couple of things. One, you know, say because you don't like me from monomong platform, so I'm not really going to be talking about somebody talking about their opinion because that's what it was it wasn't an opinion. It wasn't a statement. It was his opinion on his own on his podcast that we don't watch or whatever. So let that split this. So first of all, it was still his justice opinion. Now his opinion was amplified because of the, because of who his employer is. And as I keep telling everyone else, they watch this stuff. And so when this stuff came out, yes, he got a phone call. Trust me. I know we get these phone. You've gotten a phone call before. I mean, let's not forget you in the press conference, you know, Patrick Thurthon, the ball of Tyrone. I didn't get a phone call for that, by the way.

10:22Yeah, yeah. I don't know. You got brought it to the press office. So, so, so, so it does happen. So it does happen. So I don't put that out there, but ask yourself. So you can't, so you can't, you can't speak your mind. You can't. What I think is a hit dog hollus. You know, I don't, I don't think you get to this point. Look, they see all this stuff to Darren's point. They see everything, but they don't call you in unless there's certain things, especially if you have a platform to the size of Nate Taylor's. I know you don't want to shout another platform, but to me, this is a situation where she's trying to be very delicate with this guy. They understand that he needs to, he needs a little bit more than what is typical to get out there. And Tracement is almost giving voice to that now in this quote. It's it's it's not his platform via via the podcast. It's the it's the company that he works for that amplifies what he because now, Huddled because now now his byline is ESPN. That's a different that that's a different byline

11:23versus the athletic that that that is still too different. Darren, if there was no truth to it, they would have just let it go. If if it was silly and if it was nothing, they would have just closed their eyes and turned a blind eye or whatever. To me, they're reacting in this way show that there is a little bit of it's a little bit of something there. So they're trying to shield Josh mentally because, you know, I think, you know, obviously everybody's had that question. And, you know, last year he had that issue, we still don't really know what it was. But you think that they're trying to just make sure that he doesn't have to hear and listen to extra criticism, you know, that might affect them mentally. I don't know. Is that is that where you're going? I think it's part of the equation. I think I think all of that. I think I think I think you nailed it when you said it right away, JC, it's both. I think Trey maybe said something that also not you can't dance. I think I think I think I think Trace has said something that could

12:25apply multiple ways. It has multiple meanings. It's a double untondra in a way. You can apply it to this situation or it can apply to this situation. I'm not going to say specific names, but the fact that we're at this point now from a team perspective to where they're calling folks and saying, hey, that's not the way we're moving right now. They're trying to control the message in a way, which is what PR is. That's part of the job. And that shows me that they're trying to massage this a little bit more. And when this was a day to day injury. Yeah. And the thing about last week. Well, in terms of Trace comment message, whatever. And then you saying that, yeah, it trays the type of guy that you would go to him. That's not a message at this point that you would go straight to the guy for because to be honest with you, it can get heated. It can get confrontational. You don't want that in the locker room.

13:25So you don't, it's different if there's a, you know, when you're going to somebody and you're questioning their heart, you're questioning their toughness, your question, you know, week one is not the time to do that. So it very well could have been him talking about himself, but also sending a message. But Jay see, but yeah, go ahead. But I was going to say the first side is though, you say, you don't want to take it to him directly, but if you do it and directly to the media, I mean, how am I supposed to take that if it was because me, you don't bring it to me directly. This is not the first time we've had this conversation because we've tried to get through the other ways. Yeah, because the way you handle that in the locker room is, hey, I didn't say your name. If you want to take it personally, that's on you. Maybe that's something you need to look at, right? But I didn't, Scott, I didn't call you out. So if you're taking it, if you get insensitive and personal about it, maybe there's something you need to look at.

14:26So that's how you get around that in the locker room and sending a message to somebody indirectly. And you know, again, not saying that that that's what that was his intent, but it definitely works there in that situation. Yeah, I mean, and go ahead and say again, now while I don't think that that was his intent or just that, again, that's what my pain versus George. But going back to the air, I mean, going back to the NA situation, again, that's his interpretation of what he, what he shot on his platform. Because when we talked about it last week, you know, I think we talked about it, I think we talked about it last Saturday or Tuesday, following the game where, you know, where I mentioned that there was a chief's ring of honor player that was, you know, that was hitting me up and that was upset about the situation with, you know, with, with, with Josh, and nobody knowing, I mean, we talked about the fact that you go from day to day to now, we don't know to the extent and, you know, you bring in all these other offensive

15:26linemen. Yeah, questions would be raised. Now again, while I have questions about, you know, his, you know, his, his heart or whatever you, however you want to, however you want to view it, that doesn't, I'm just saying that doesn't mean that that was the message that that that they put out there because again, I mean, because, look, while, while we're concerned about whether or not the team or players that sit at the team, you know, I mean, the same could be said when we talked about Eric B&M called and, you know, Rashid Rice heart had it. I mean, you know, why did it take the enemy to come out there and to put him to say something when he wasn't around, you know, when he hadn't been around and we didn't hear none of these other coaches or any of them or none of his other teammates come out and speak from the podium in that manner towards him. So that's, that's the only reason why, like I said, I don't think, I don't think that those comments were geared directly or indirectly to J. Simmons. Now again, now again, you can interpret that way.

16:26I mean, because it's easy to watch. Get them JC. Get it. Yeah. I don't. Aaron, Aaron, you were doing the middle of the wall. Hold your shoes. Hold your dancers. We'll go to the side. We'll go to the side. You're watching the cheeseclot show here in a lot of times. That's the tax. Give me a trouble. Football is finally back and that means Sundays are about to get a whole lot more interesting. Every week brings new matchups, breakout players, big performances and plenty of storylines to follow. And if you like getting even more engaged with the players and stats you're watching, there's a new way to make game day more exciting. Prize picks is bringing out its best offer yet for kickoff. New users who sign up can get $150 in lineups if they win their first $5 lineup and prize picks is now available nationwide. With prize picks, you're building daily fantasy lineups by choosing two to six players and selecting more or less on their projected stats like passing yards, rushing yards or

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18:30mouth messages from the podium. It's the same situation with Rashee Rises. You were saying, Darren, they don't trust Rashee, which is why every time they're at the podium, they call them hard headed. They tell me he's the listed more. They tell me he's the doing this. They're getting in the way. But Josh Simmons, the best ability in the National Football League is availability. And if I can't trust that you're in this hole with me, that we're going to war together, and you're going to do whatever it takes to line up on Sunday and fight for us, then I don't know where we stand. It's about being Luke Warm. I'd rather have somebody that's icy cold than Luke Warm because at least I know where you stand. Josh Simmons, we don't know where he's at. I mean, look, you know, I felt about Simmons from last year as you mentioned earlier. I mean, look, I'm concerned about whether or not he's going to be available for next week. But again, as I said, when it comes to us in the local meeting, when it comes to hearing the reading, what it says, we just have to take the men at his words. Look, she's keen to carry her both ways because they want us to trust in them.

19:32Trust what he said. Don't question them. They want to be questioned them to get upset about it. And then you have a situation with Josh Simmons, how come you all aren't being honest and a tough question about it? Well, I mean, you can't have it every wish different ways. Now for me, that's the end of read and Brett reads a situation that they have to address. And like I said, I mean, our good friend, Jody Newsom, you know, feels like, you know, she's keen to kind of bully the bully the player enough that he might actually show up for practice this week, you know, leading up to the game. So start practicing and playing the game. I don't know. But I pull out this. I think whatever situation is with Josh Simmons, it's going to come to a head sooner than we think. You know, the problem is, is yeah, you, you know, you hope that it's the, the start of the season. Guys are playing hurt. You see Patrick and everything he's done to get out there. You would think they'd hate, man, I want to be out there.

20:33The other thing is they're tied. It's not like their hands are tied, meaning, you know, they've got so much money invested in this guy. It's you, you know, I keep referring back. But before, you know, when there was no, you know, you didn't have the ramifications of the cap, if a guy was performing like this or not performing or didn't want to play, hell, you're going to move on. But you can't do that now because of the situation. Right. And so now you've got to try to massage the situation like, okay, well, let's get, you know, like, like, you know, you guys have said about Rush. Because, you know, we got to play him because we got the money in him, you know, in a different time, if they would probably wouldn't have. But now you have to and, you know, a guy like Josh, they have a lot invested. So they've got to try to massage the situation and get him out there. And, you know, again, who knows? We don't know what the situation is other than, supposedly, is back. But, you know, we'll see, we'll see next Monday.

21:34Right. And that's, and that's nothing in Jason, you know, the former player like the, the one injury that you can't do an MRI or anything for it. And if you say you hurt, they just have to take it to a word for is your back. You know, and, and it's like you can, it could be something else wrong. But the back is the cover, you know, and saying that allows you to, I mean, you can't really question it because, you know, you go in for, you know, if I tell a man, if I tell him, my back is certainly going to go in and they try to send me in for a scan, they're not going to be able to notice or see anything, you know, under X-rays or anything like that versus, you know, if you got a tear or a pole or a strain and something like that, they can, you know, they can do a scope and see that when it comes to a back, you know, your back hurt. No, I mean, and that, and Jason knows when, when you're in a contract situation, which he isn't, but like receiving stuff, that's, you know, they tell you don't get out there, but if, but if you try, but if you're arguing with the, with the team versus you're saying your back is hurting, I mean, they, they just have to take it your word for it.

22:36This is a straight line to Patrick Mahomes coming back and feeling his best and feeling protected and feeling like he can go out there and, and run the offense. I mean, the tackle situation they have not got in the four years that I covered the team in KC plus the two years away. They were revolving door at tackle. And then we talk about the run game as well. We still have no idea that the opener is nine days away. We're recording on the fifth Saturday. We don't know who the front five are. And y'all tell them we didn't go out there and handle the different Broncos. Come on. I said, I'm going to win. Somebody handle it. Man, it, you know, if Josh doesn't play, I mean, it, we know who the tackles are going to be because the new guys that that have come in, they have not been here nearly long enough to, to know the system yet. Even if you, you, you taper it down to a game plan, it's still a lot. You got to know the checks. You got to know everything. And, and, and there's

23:36no way that they can do that and be ready and confident. So, you know, obviously if trade doesn't go, then they've got to play, you know, Jalen and Benson, you know, I mean, and that's not good, you know, from what we've seen thus far, but, you know, it's tough. But, but I, man, I'm hoping and I'm, I'm, I'm thinking that he's going to show up because the thing that as a player, when you're hurt or you, you know, whatever the case may be, when you're not playing, you're not practicing, you almost feel like you're ostracized. You do in the locker room, everybody's getting ready to go to practice. They're practicing. You're not, you know, I mean, they're not talking to you because we're trying to get ready to play the game. We're talking to the guys that are, are going to play in terms of, here's the plays we're going to run. Here's what we're doing. Here's the checks and you're just kind of there because you're not playing it. It makes you, you, you really are ostracized. And, and a lot of times that makes guys go back and play because I don't want to feel

24:41that way. And hell, we've all been there before and you're like, she's, you know, they make you, they just walk right by you. Don't look at you. Don't speak to you. Don't, you know, you're like, damn, am I still on the team? You know, and it's a bad feeling. So, you know, that's one of those things. Tray was talking about too about, you know, just, you know, you want to be out there because you feel like you're letting everybody down because they look at you or don't look at you like, man, you know, that I said that, uh, we were talking about there, a piece of two point else. The name is Darren Peterson, by the way, yeah, but, uh, on a man, look, I think the trees put, well, they put themselves in. Does he play week one? Does he play week one? JC and Darren, does, does, does Josh him play week one? Yes. I said, I'm saying yes. I'm, I'm giving the young fellow benefit of the doubt at this point. He was at the luncheon or whatever. He's around the team. He's

25:42there. I hate question and heart. And I don't want this to be like what this turns into. I like, they're in the top 1% of 1% professional athletes. They can do things that I can't do. I fully recognize that I understand that guys play through things or different between being hurt and being injured. I completely understand all these things. But when you're drafted to be the franchise left tackle for Kansas City and they're making this, this dynasty 2.0 push, Kelsey, my homes, everybody on the same page. And I've been around the media long enough almost 10 years now. People don't just say things at the point. You don't just say, that's not where you slip up and have like a, you know, a, a loose tongue. You know, they coach you specifically before you step up to that podium on what you can and cannot say that's not a situation where you just get Lucy Goosey. So when I read these things like the white, I have no choice but to read in and assign them to certain things. I'm going to be honest. I think he plays, but I think to the point of our, our episode is patients wearing thin patients is wearing extremely thin. And it's on if we're doing

26:45the Rishi rice meter, he's not all the way there yet, but he, he getting close. He, he, he's inched his way down. So, man, I'm going to, I'm going to ask me a side of it to you. I know I, both of you all, but I do think he plays. What now these starches is going to be interesting, but I, I do think he plays. And I just, again, to me, I think that he's put themselves in this situation last year without really addressing, well, we don't know what they really did behind the scenes or publicly as a relates to addressing him, you know, being away for so long or whatever and then coming back and then really just putting him right back in the start line of some of that share, you know, where the accountability was in that. So, I, look, man, I do know mental health is real. So, so, so, so I'm also not going to be one is going to be attacking them like that because, you know, knowing that we do going to do speaks these players, they do read here a lot of stuff. And, and so it does

27:46have an effect on them. I'm just going to say that I hope he plays. And even if he, even if he doesn't, with some reason play, questions must be asked of Andy Reed, asked to what, you know, what is situations is it is back in the, is it something else in the back is being used as a cover or what? Because, I mean, this, you know, you can't, you can't go into another season, you know, having doubts and questions at that position, especially when, you know, you're going to be looking at Brett Veech throughout the year, like, are you going to make a trade? What are you going to do? And then we start questioning the offense and stuff like that. And whether or not they input and point to the board of their knock, or they came in a football, they came to protect Pat and we have this conversation to every week all over again. Yeah. What are you laughing at? I just think it's so funny because I get all here not talking about holes in the ship and things not looking right. And, you know, let's try to get our house in order before week one and nine days out, we have in the conversation

28:52and they call the reporters into the principal. That, that type of stuff doesn't happen. Like, the Tennessee Titans had a little dust up this week around that same situation where they revoked a reporter's credentials. That's not, that's not what, I mean, we YouTubers too, where she's thinking we're streaming on right now. We don't have media too now. So how else is it? Hey, how don't we let's keep it up? But we legit legacy media. Let's put that down. I usually, especially when the chiefs were in their heyday and I covered them in their heyday, I was at 57 and 58. I was in the locker room after the gig. They had the most covered you could imagine. I mean, when you're a super ball team and you go on back to back, it's not just local media is national media is international media. You think they calling these people into the principal's office to ask them about paragraph three and their most recent column? No, the teams and people who do that, that, that, you're not focused. You're clearly focused on the wrong thing. You try to, you try to micro manage when the mothership was moving

29:55at maximum speed, what nothing stopping that a move and full steam ahead. They went in football games, but they not went in football games right now. Maybe it changes, maybe it changes. I put you down, nobody went in. Yeah, yeah, but you know, but that's how it is. And, you know, that's how they've always been. You know, they listen to everything, they watch everything. And if it's, you know, and they, they try to control the narrative, you know, they've always done that. We all know that. And, you know, sounds like Nate got to talk to Darren, Darren trying to not get talk to. I got to talk to Friday night. I got to talk to Friday night. What they say to you, what they say to you, you need security. What's your, I don't know, I don't know, I'm not going to talk about it on this plan. Well, that's how he's, but what are you smoking? Come on. Nothing about that on the air. I didn't know that man. Oh, man. It was, it was, it was, it was something

31:02mine new, but it was like really? Yeah, calling me 11 o'clock and that about this, but 11 o'clock. Yeah, I've never been called in, but I got the text. Some, some happen to locker room. Oh, wow. But now, see that, that's the errands point, though. I mean, you calling people at 11 o'clock at night, though. Come on now. Is it that important? No, really? Is it that, you know, that we can't talk the next time I see you and, hey, man, uh, leave, leave the guy alone or something. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and I don't need to defend them, but an effort is like, my only thing was you could have adjusted in the locker room while we were all in there versus, you know, but they thought I was coming back upstairs to the press box and I wasn't obviously from there, from the field to the car. So, but again, it was, it was mine. It was my new over what it was. It was just like, really? So, now, Darren, I will, I got you next time. You should, you should just told him you would meet now, you know? You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you can't carry

32:04no weight anymore. You can't carry no weight. All right, let's take a time out. We coming to the other side. Let's talk some dollar figures with a restructure around Trace Smith. Listen to the Chief Squad Show here at the Lockdown Podcast Network. Before the season even kicks off, everyone's making predictions. Who wins the division? Who makes the playoffs? Who's lifting the trophy at seasons end on Calche America's number one prediction market platform? You can trade those predictions in a live market. Well, the Kansas City Chiefs, when the AFC West this season currently trading at 37% meaning a $100 trade would pay out $273.28. On Calche, you're trading against peers in a live market, meaning there's no house. And as the probability changes, you can buy in and out of your position, trade the draft pick, the game, and more on Calche. Download the Calche app and use code Lockdown to get $10 when you trade $10 KALSHI Calche trade on anything.

33:0618 plus only restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. Event contract trading involves risk. It may not be suitable for all investors. Calche products are not available in jurisdictions. Prices, values, and available markets may differ from those mentioned. For more information, see Calche.com slash regulatory. Back in on the Chief Squad Show here on the Lockdown Podcast Network, Aaron Ladd, JC Pearson, Darren Smith, very active chat. Y'all like this Saturday morning slot. Maybe this is the... Maybe this is the usual. Have you seen this? This is going to be travel day sometimes. Yeah. Okay. There's plenty of chat in there. We'll get to more your comments. Questions, criticisms, and concerns a little bit later. But let's talk some dollar figures now. And it's around Trace Smith. Once again, since we last recorded the Chiefs converted 18.5 million dollars of Trace Smith salary into a bonus creating $12.3 million of cap

34:06space for this season. That is the headline there. So we were talking before. Maybe Christian Fulton was the move. Christian Fulton stays on the 53. So we know it wasn't going to be the money there. I'm sorry, JC. I'm just giving the timeline. Other Christian Fulton. So we knew they were going to try to find some maneuvers. And as we talked about some holes on the ship. So where can they find some maneuvers from it? It's the Trace Smith deal. And I think it was conversation between this and Creed Humphreys money potentially. There was only so many guys they could really choose from as far as kicking the can down the road. And Trace Smith is the guy they chose this time. $12.3 million. And I think they're cap compliant for this upcoming year as well. We're missing our cap guy, Chris Clark. But what do we think about the Trace Smith restructure? What does it leave the Chiefs now? What would you like to see them do with some some some free money, JC? Well, I don't if I understood it correctly, they needed to do that just to get cap compliant,

35:07right? And I think they're only it's still after all that only a couple million under the cap. If I'm concerned or a couple if I understand right. So correct me if I'm wrong there. But obviously you know whatever money you have you're looking and I give Brett Beach credit for that though because he's always done that in the past where they identify a need and issue. He goes and tries to address it and I give him full credit for that because not a lot of GM's do that. Especially ones that we've had here in the past. So I give him a lot of credit if there's a need and an issue that this team really has. He's out there trying to find a solution or or a stop gap or something. So I fully expect him to use that money this year quickly. More information from Matt Derrick does a great job over at Chiefs Digest. The Chiefs have 13.8 in cap space after the Trace Smith restructure. That's 25th most in the league. Trace Smith has a

36:11$34 million cap hit in 2027 and 2028. So that's the price of trying to free up some room now. You got to you got to pay the paper at some point and that is a it's a hefty it's a hefty little deal there. Granted he does stood up when when it's time to play you know you know he's going to go out there. Are you calling back to the press car? He said it himself. I'm just quoting him. I'm just just going to get you know you'll get your money. But Brad I think you are no errands phone number. So yeah I want to call him in before you have that call out to us TV manager. But that you know that cap number although it's huge you know down the line a few years it shouldn't be as huge because every year the cap goes up you know and so it'll hopefully be a less. I mean it's still a big number but you know down the line the cap probably much be much more and it won't

37:14be as big of a hit as it would be right now. Yeah but the only fifth side of that though is that he's not the only player that they you know that they continue to restructure I mean as much as magic as as restructure I mean that's a lot against you know a lot that you put on a credit card for these upcoming years that still kind of doesn't leave you much to to to improve the team along the way now. We actually said that if there was someone who would have the country restructure it would have to be the he and Chris Jones and the fact that they made this move this post to the season you know kind of things you know yeah they had to be cap compliant but no dad had to be cap compliant at the start of the NFL season I believe or camp or something like that so they were already they were already compliant but yeah I mean this situation with him I mean with the money they can do that they can sign I mean I don't really know who's out there

38:15that that you would get within these next couple of weeks that you could sign a possibly have you know unless you're looking at working at a trade before the trade deadline and you can have have have some maneuvering capability there but I just don't see anybody right now I mean look and and to be quite honest you gonna need to find somebody if there's continue questions at a certain position too so the problem is that position I know if I got one I'm not giving them up yeah with three million with the season which is again again which is which is why the chiefs have been heard themselves over the last few seasons and and because again don't forget a couple of before Josh Simmons they thought Kingsley was going to be what's going to be the answer at left tackle and before him to an extent why ain't more in my Johnson guy from yeah no no no no no somebody else got about him already you won the day no do you want Taylor what you mean

39:18oh no no no do you want Taylor was always right when they initially signed up what they thought about putting them at left tackle but he was always the right tackle so that was so that was never really that was but I've always talked about trying to you know if you if you're gonna get one in the draft make sure he makes sure he's good because otherwise you need to find you a Larry Tom so you know the guy the Williams guy this year was the highest chance they had of getting a guy like that yeah ask for a DB well because they lost two of them but the the thing is with him you know and they've been you know having to pick so low because they've been winning so much you know so that all the top ones are gone but with Josh Simmons he was projected if he was healthy because he was coming off that knee injury at that time right too so it was the you know it's a shot that hey if we take this guy he's he's projected top five if he was healthy and everything played well he fell down to them where they were at the end of the round and hoping that you know

40:23everything worked out and for a while there it did work out and it looked great for a while and it looked like they really got a steal but you know and then some you know some other things started to play a factor so you know it's hard where they were drafted to say hey we're gonna go get a franchise guy because all those guys were gone already this year like you said yeah this year was the the highest that they could have but you lose both your starting corners the corner market was not very deep so we had you know they had to go there but they also spin a first round pick on this guy too like he wouldn't he wouldn't have he was value because of the injury concerns but I mean but he was back into the first round hey huh at the end though hey I don't I don't have because the chief scouting department also and you got a while receiver a value in the second round but you also lose on them off the field stuff too and you still to get chance on it and you still have some off the field issues would have here so I mean so so again as I said last week

41:28there were already concerns about jazz Simmons and in certain situations you know up in Columbus and so but they still decide to go with it and when certain stuff happens we're here where we are well you take a shot but you know it'd be interesting to see what tackles were taking after him and again we all we all know that the that the draft is is you know and not not a direct science or whatever you know you know there's some stuff that you don't know and you miss guys but I wonder what tackles were taken after him in that draft that are now starting left tackles and doing well I don't know so you know what the options were so I also wonder if the Benson experiment was because they already kind of knew the way things were trending and wondered if they could get value out of him specifically you know there are some things that we were kind

42:31of scratching our head about where it's like you know especially when you're sitting in the seats that we're sitting then we don't have all the information we have to read the tea leaves we have to dissect the quotes that come from the podium because that's all we get when you give me a crumb and that's the only thing I got to eat I got to eat so I mean technically I will technically you can't go into the locker room with your microphone ask some questions too so I'm okay I will be there on September 14 after the Denver Broncos game you and I will be arm and arm going around not ducking none of the smoke I'm gonna be right there with you okay we'll see I'm gonna be right there with you all right hey are we getting the midnight telephone call you to you to run I think we all said that he's gonna play though and we all want him to play let's let's let's let's just go ahead and clear this all up like this is a cheese platform this is locked on chiefs we're not room for anybody's demise here I don't get paid to Jackson's or whatever yeah we

43:34want him to I want all these athletes every time I close the interview with that I say good look it's an objective thing I say I'm not saying I want y'all to win I want you to stay healthy I want you to be able to go home and hug on your loved ones at the end of the game I'm not room for anybody I'll be I'll be first say why this is a cheese platform and y'all love me some Jayce you know these players I think we're up a cheese fan you know and and and and even as a part of me there I'm not a cheese fan I mean I'm a I'm a fan of the players and I and I do like you know a lot of the people that we that we that we you know that we have to interact with but you know but my job you know as part of media is not to it's not to prop up the team that's not you know my job is a call balls and strikes or you know and be truthful to to the audience and to the facts that they come before us you know growing up you know I mean you know we grew up while you know when the chief are bad in the 80s when I was growing up I was a church and so by the time I got home from church in its three o'clock in the afternoon we're watching the 49ers of the Cowboys on TV not the chief because the chief were playing in noon so I didn't grow up watching the chiefs and

44:37had that had that or like everybody you know like a lot of people do right now and so you know and when I started covering the chiefs and you know yeah I always say the chief success helps our success you know because it makes going and you know going to the world other other stuff much much easier so you know I mean yeah so again if you think if you think myself say yeah I'm gonna be someone that that that that that's gonna pump it you know pump it with a cheese message message I can't do that I'm just gonna tell you what it is oh I'm taking what it is I like these Saturday morris too man yeah they active in the chat let's take our time out now we'll come back I'm gonna go through the chat we'll talk a week one you're listening to the chief squad show here in the lotto podcast network final segment with the fellows on a Saturday we've been having some fun if hope you have as well go ahead and hit that like comment subscribe so you know anytime we are alive we've been moving our

45:38schedule around a little bit but we will be two episodes a week all the way through the end of the NFL season Aaron Lodge AC Pearson Darren Smith plenty of chatter around Josh Simmons let's start with this one JC they messed up not putting you back in the the broadcast move for college games man the fans miss you man yeah but that all the tattooed with JC yeah travel and all that man was what's up like I couldn't be out here right now watching my daughter play because they play in the fall also so being a dad first man once she's done you know who knows we we may we may we may do that but but I'll tell you guys next week though but yeah there is little okay hey Aaron before the show Casey was like we're gonna be talking about the and no it's just you guys don't tell boy hey Jason don't get about as little people now yeah but

46:43not not not it ain't like that yet but yeah man yeah not not hi there's some stuff in the works I'll keep you posted we'll see let's follow up with this one because we haven't covered it from this angle I imagine Trey was extremely pissed off by the media putting words in his mouth and I'm sure that's part of the equation as well that's what we kind of said it is both it can be both and when you say something as vague or as open as I signed a contract so it's my job to be out there that could apply to all 51 53 guys on the roster like that's not that we have to that's all we get you know have to I mean you can interpret it still keep you keep it thoughts to yourself I'm just saying I mean I you know that's you know I mean you can you interpret the way you interpret and then how you put it out there it's how you put out then you have to reap you know saying whatever consequence comes with it and that's a little situation that I guess you know but but the thing is you know the the texture says you know he imagines that Trey was pissed you can imagine that Trey might

47:48not have been pissed Trey might have been like yo that's what I was that's what I was talking about and Trey might have been cool but the chief but the chief the everybody was mad somebody though the reason that Nate put that statement out is because someone was upset whether it was Trey whether it was Josh whether it was Andy Reed whether it was Andy Heck whether it was Eric the enemy somebody is going on and said we're putting a Kybloss to this yeah but you know here the thing you know you make it all go away come out and play on September 14 and play well I think he's going to be there man I really do well I'd be surprised yeah yeah look I I'll be there for his sake not even for the team sake I you know because again we we're talking about I'm gonna help I want him to be for him to come out I want him to make sure that he is okay you know saying mentally and physically before he steps out there on the field because if you feel like he's being pressure to be out there on the field he may not be playing with a clear head and that can also get Patrick at a certain point

48:52you got to get pressure though dog this is your job oh we know you're for fun this is your job I'm just high pressure job you know what you're getting into and physically I don't think I'm controlling I don't been protected by the truth brother they have stuff to help with pain and all that stuff too you took stuff every man and took stuff every man my last two years took stuff every day and that that goes back to press whoa yeah that he's got to you know he's got to get access to that account you got to get access to a phone like me we'll show you cheese and mass of the president you know we gotta we gotta make sure he's not being hostage yes all right let's keep going through our chat why Jay she tries to get back going that might have been one of my favorite moments of this show all time this is

49:57another angle of this whole Josh Simmons conversation but I do think it matters I do think it matters texture writes in unfortunately Josh Simmons is one of the new way college football players they win NIL money and then they bail out on their contract in their second year I don't agree with that exactly but I do I do think that the I do think that there is an age and generation factor into this JC's back with Jay she's got to you what happened what happened I just seen you guys laughing and I just got disconnected man but man since he's pressed for strikes we're talking about we're talking about Josh Simmons being in kind of the new era of college player I do think the generation kind of matters here like these guys have been paid already they're not getting their big paydays in the NFL they've gotten their money they see the game a little different way you look at this happening in the NBA as well the players are a you graduates where they've been they've been

50:57professionalized earlier so when they get to the pros it's not this bright eye I'm gonna be pressured into playing the same way it used to be now they're kind of adjusted and they have taken back some of the power as well Josh Simmons goes to them and says I'm not feeling right and and he's the one that's kind of controlling theme versus the chief kind of being on the other end I think the the timing of this whole thing does play a factor I don't know I don't agree with that only because I mean you might have a little bit more leeway and cause where you can up and leave with it but you can't you know you never ever done working in a field because at the end that's funny at the end of the day you know saying the NFL is always going to win I mean you know look they want to guess Tom Brady and others they you know their money is long whatever he feels like he's doing again whatever he feels like it's working or whoever's in his ear that's one thing but it's not going to work out he's not going to win against the system if you want to look at it in that scenario so what what money he has again it's not he has life changing money but you also want to be a situation

52:05where that money can run out quickly especially especially in the world and the times we leave with now he needs to get to a second contract before he can start thinking he's got any FU power and right now I don't I don't know I don't I don't know what's going to happen one more angle I want to look at this and JC you can hop in on this do we look at Vich differently now because this is another early round pick that we're having some uncertainty texture from Mizzou writes in Vich laughing at the idea of taking a tackle in the post draft press conferences are really really bad look right now the misses are notable the misses are notable and if this trends to be another one at another key position does that change how we look at the Chief General Manager JC I don't think so because you look at their success it all has to stem from him because he got the personnel there you're not going to hit on every draft pick and then when you

53:07are drafting where they have drafted so often at the end of the rounds because of their success you know there's issues there and you know so now you and then you at those times you're not reaching so much you so now we can take some chances because we don't have to reach or we don't have to have a guy that is a for sure guy we can reach for the the ceiling who who may have a higher upside and see if we hit and if we don't we don't and move on because at that time they were not as in the situation they're in now where they had so many holes to fill but it happens you know I mean you know in this day and age of cap space and like you said in a couple years it's going to be ugly again you know I mean it's it they're in that situation every year the Rams I don't know how the heck the Rams are doing what they're doing right now but in the coming years

54:10they're going to they got to tear that whole thing down right as even they got to win now because it's all going to come to a head when you look at all the money that they've spent so you got to try to manage it but if you want to win now you got to try to it's tough but to answer your question I don't think so I think you got to look at him and still give him credit for the super balls that they did win and and then taking the chances and that's all you can do well I mean it says I mean we can reach out about the rounds and the other whole afternoon fixing but even when they did and they won the super bowl it's not like they had any rebuilding years I mean they you know they were still in the playoffs and you know the championship game they just you know maybe he feels short but that division is tougher that division is much tougher than the I know no I get it but but I'm saying but but they but they they they worked them draft picks and whatever they need to do to get to get staffer there it paid off and the Super Bowl that same year and they still been in they still been in contention every year and they right

55:14back in it to where the super favorite now so so I mean you know I mean looking to chase the been a super bowl contention eight out of the 10 years that Patrick has been has been here and you know since you know and eight of nine years minus last year that they haven't been you know in the ASC championship games so you know at the end of the day you know I mean he's still you know Brad V still has done a you know has done enough to you know warrant the you know warranted a benefit of the bell and yeah yeah I feel bad for our guy I guess you're right so somebody just putting they you know putting them in a head like like you know I could say about it they're saying hey they're saying hey don't don't let these jokers get you in trouble but no no I'm here this wire fire is not the best swear on that that's it another texture writes in this year is truly super bowl or bust if we're not winning a

56:17chip I'd rather bust out and get a hydraphic with the amount of quarterbacks and why receivers coming out next year a tackle could be attainable now we're giving some people on last side okay here we go finally we're starting to see the light of day you got a fact next year I was thinking well I mean you got some high picks for the next year anyway but I mean with all the teams that are looking for I ain't going to lie I mean if the Chief somehow got bad one they're not going to get a super quarterback I hope they be bad if they're going to be bad be bad if you get Jeremiah Smith that's it that's the only player you need to be bad for I get him before I get a left tackle but you know that being the case the Chiefs of Argonne been through all the bus since 2018 so I mean that's that that's that's one of the way they're thinking so I can't you know if they're bad it's just because in the car 10 and 7 and an elimination in a wild car around that doesn't help you getting back to a champ I think that's what the texture is trying to say the

57:18texture is trying to say hey let's just be bad really bad one year get a top three pick and try to get some of Holmes help other than like kind of sitting in this kind of middle ground 10 and 7 whatever I can't rock with that I can't rock with that just because one of the players would never buy into it I mean and and and you can't you can't force your sister's body in who oh fool boy I love that you know you know you know you love that I don't breath breath breath Brad just a kid he lost Aaron's number let me give it to you this is an informational humorous podcast as a reminder here disc labor yes please don't think everything we say here hey how do I do have to say this because because we're not on a ticket to a Tuesday everyone please have a safe and happy labor day uh you know this this Monday the holiday and shout out to my mom who's watching so she told if I didn't shout out she won't go put the ribs on you know put the ribs on so they they just

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