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Chulin 113b, 114a

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Gemara Markings Daf YomiChulin 113b, 114a. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

Of course you had gimmelonololif, we're going to start with the mission of that is 11 lines from the bottom of the cupboard. We're supposed to mission this 8 lines, we'll head to that shortly. So as the mission we're going to start with, amala esaif, imhagrin al shulhan, if somebody brings to a table chicken along with cheese, an oever belay esaif, say, dot online the word oever, he has not violated a negative prohibition. Okay, now the gimmelonolif is a duke off the mission of, okay, so if you serve, let's say there was a chicken on a table, there was cheese, you're not over. How oever belay esaif, say, that person would violate the Torah prohibition. Now, one second asked the gimmelonolif, shulhan, we could clue from that that bossar aif, the meat of chicken, like bird meat, bechhalav with milk is deraise. So, I think we know otherwise though, so the gimmelonolif says, no, you have to understand the mission differently, aimah, say it like this.

So it's almost like a one line re-reading, but the way you're supposed to understand the mission, I put right angles here, until they have an align, hamala esaif, somebody who brings, let's say, chicken, bird, ima greba, at the same table, as he's also put cheese, ala shulhan, an a baliday, I don't know on the baliday, it's not like that's an violate, but he won't even come to a laisase. In other words, there's nothing to worry about, because what we would consider, maybe you might eat it and violate something, even if you did eat it, you weren't violating any Torah prohibition. So this is the next mission. Bossar Behema Tahira, let's say you have meat from a kosher animal bechhalav with milk of a Behema Tahira, a kosher behema, asso the vasho, the asso behana, forbidden to boil them together, forbidden to get benefit from it.

As opposed to Bossar Behema Tahira, let's say you have a sheep or let's say, a cow meat bechhalav Behema Tahira, with milk from a non-cochranimal or conversely, come up, Bossar Behema Tahira, let's say you have horse meat with halav Behema Tahira, milk from a cow from a kosher animal, those mixtures, much of the Vasho you can boil them together, much of a hana, you can also get benefit from it, certainly can eat it. Better than I know I was fine, if you keep a wee box to a bear, he says that a chaya, a wild animal, the aif and a bird, aina minataira, are not meat or rice, shanamara, because the puzzle is very clear, it actually says it three times, we'll see. Quote, loisse va shell gidee bechhalav imai, do not boil a gidee, it's like a little kid, a little like a small goat, bechhalav imai in the milk of its mother. Now that freight is actually three times in the humish gimopaman, y three times, well apparently it's coming to exclude three scenarios,

there's pro, number one, la chaya, so it excludes a wild animal, that included in that, and at tar level, number two aif, a bird, nothing included that, number three, a behemoths mea, also let's say non kosher animals, common, if you'll say gloomy one, line I'm there, he says, well the puzzle says, this is in divarim yudala puzzle chathalif, loisse hlu khal naveila, hey you can't eat any animal that dropped that, like you could look a counter sheep, and namara and it says in that same puzzle, this is one of the three, quote loisse va shell gidee bechhalav imai, thereby making a connection between those two issues, in other words, s-shasar michoum naveila, the type of animal that would be forbidden because it dropped dead and not shifted, in other words like a chaya, let's say a good deer, also the va-shapah halay, that would be forbidden to boil it in milk, however, comma, oh you can talk about a bird, a kosher bird, shasar michoum naveila, that also like a chicken or a kosher bird, if it dropped dead, it's forbidden, you can eat it, yalchals maybe you would think yiyasal the va-shapah halal, that would be forbidden to boil it in milk as well on its core level, no,

tom baleimar, to that the puzzle is very clear, quote, to woe bechhalav imai, and its mother's milk, which basically is like mammals, not birds, yalchals, the exclusion of birds, shasar michoum nave, mother birds don't produce milk for their baby birds, okay, ask the gammara, quite a question, manani means the word we know, that even though the puzzle says you should not boil a kid and its mother's milk, how do you know that it includes all animals, all behemoths, well, I'm from a lesbian or pro, because here's a puzzle actually back in the say, for gracious, it says, you should just go to gidi-ha-izim, and you, to sense, the, you could just call it gidi, but it called it a gidi of izim, it's like a, um, a young kid of goats, now, con gidi-izim, over here the puzzle specifically said that the type of gidi, the young one we're talking about, is a little goat, ha-komakam shanamara gidi-stam, but anywhere else with it, Torah says, just the term gidi, and leaves it at that, our puzzle goes for especially gidi-stamara, if you look part of a rafloom, that would include not only goats, but also cows and sheep.

Okay, then once it's that wonderful, but who says that's the way we should learn the puzzle, maybe even lay-lift me, nay, why not say that you have a precedent over here that gidi-izim in gracious, is talking about a, um, a young kid, like a young godamaka-gzero-shawa, just like, here the gidi-izim, is a gidi-izim, so if we're elsewhere with the puzzle says gidi-shim in gidi-izim, well, actually, look, more on our, uh, greener or exceed craft, here, there's another puzzle. The other puzzle, which is also brave since 11 says, that's aera-izim, gidi-e-zim, it also refers to not just as a gidi-d, but a gidi-izim, which means over there, a kan gidi-izim, ha-komakam, ha-komakam, ha-l-ever-ever, else in the Torah shanamara gidi-stamara, it has the term gidi, but doesn't qualify with the easy more, just gidi, meaning just, uh, kids, I mean, like, young goats, I feel the par-vah, rafloom, mon-sharam, it wouldn't bother that, even cows, and sheep, in other words, the other koshti-danimals would be implied, just like we asked on the first puzzle, well, that's the special, well, why not use this as a present? Now, the layleth-min-izim, just like in gracious craft-sign, it says gidi-e-zim, so to have rafloom, the gidi-d means a gidi-d of easy, meaning it would only be young goats. Well, the thing is though, we have gracious craft-sign, and the bottom of the previous one, we had gracious l-um-it-has for you who just sent a gidi-izim, which is a second place in the Torah word, says gidi-izim,

so the gimara explains that when you have habb-ul-luhu, that becomes shnaik-su-vim, two different psook-im and judra-ples-it-the Torah, habb-im-kachat, that would be coming to you to essentially the same thing, which is what? That gidi means easy. Now, can you use that as a present for every other gidi-in-lucho-mach, for whole shnaik-su-mum-kachat, wherever you have two psook-in-it-seeming, they're teaching you the same hallah about in two different cases, aim the l-um-dim. You don't ever use that as a precedent, you know? The second place in the Torah is a precedent, to say throughout the whole Torah, which means, when the Torah says in the two places, gidi-izim, that's what means gidi-izim, but everywhere else, gidi would imply, basically, kosher animal, meaning also cows and sheep. The second place in the Torah says, gidi-izim, that's what we call the psook-im-mum-kachat, that's what we call the psook-im-mum-kachat, that's what we call the psook-im-mum-kachat. The third place in the Torah is a precedent, which is the psook-im-mum-kachat, which means, if you have two psook-im-it-seeming, you cannot use that aim-mum-kachat, you can't use that as a precedent to teach you what else.

Let's say over here, this is a good moral well here, another thing besides, after this case, it means, tra-mi-uti-ci-vi, two different mi-uti-m, both in other words, the word easy-m in both the cases, that's what we say, easy-m, it says, ha-i-zim, the-gopes, which is a more specific requirement, tra-mi-uti-ci-vi-i-zim, in both the cases, it could be just a good-di-i-zim, instead of said, ha-i-zim, I double underline these. I'm going to show you my double underline, the ha-i-zim, period. I'm a shim-wah, I start with shim-wah's name. Apparently we have, let's see here, six-lim-udim from the term, g-di. Number one, g-di-i-d-i-d-l-n-l-n-g-di is l-arab-e-z-hah-he-le-ve, that comes to include, we know that's supposed to boil like a meat of a kid in his mother's milk, how about the ke-le-ve of a g-di-in-the milk?

So it comes to the rise to include that, that would be included in the dara-i-sa-is-er, usually known as basser-bihala-f, here would even be like ke-le-bihala-f, comma. G-di-i-d-i-d-l-d-l-g-d-i-zim, the term, now we do know that possibly we did three, that phrase you'd p-d-3 times, so we're going to see, well apparently another one, g-di is number two, l-arab-e-z-hah-me-sa, that would also be a-is-er, let's say, m-is-ing, let's say, an animal that died, you have the goat dropped egg, would you be able to boil that? And it's mother's milk, yes, that would also be included in the dara-i-sa-is-er, comma. G-di-i-d-i-d-p-d-d-t, it says it's the third, we move the rabbi-sa-shall-o-comes-to-in-clude, even a-shall-o-zim, m-rio, that would be included in this dara-i-sa-is-er. Kama, Gidee, it says the word Gidee, but there's the fourth, we root Lahite's sadhana, that comes to exclude if you boil up blood from the goat along with the milk that would

not be included in the Dharai saser. Kama, Gidee is the number five, but in the five fifth we root Lahite's sadhana, surely they would come to exclude the placenta, let's say you had the placenta, but you boil that up with the milk of the goat that would not be included in the Dharai saser. And finally Gidee, this is a sixth and with Lahite's sadhana, Tamaya would come to exclude the bust or a behemoth's male, let's say like a lion or a zebra that you boil up, even if you're going to be boiling it up in the milk of a kosher animal. Kama, in the positive it says Althavashel Gidee, Bechhala Avima, we're not going to have three trusses for the phrase I double and align here and put in quotation marks Bechhala Avima in this, mother's milk. So mother's milk, number one below Khala'v Zakhar and not the whatever liquid would be produced possibly by a male, Kama, again towards Bechhala Avima, that's number two, Valegal Khala'v

is not the milk of a shech-ded animal because the positive says, Lai Sermashal Gidee, that's the Bechhala Avima, it says Imoi, it's mother's milk which sounds like one that's fitting to be its mother, basically can't be already dead. And finally Bechhala Avima, put that in quotation marks, Valegal Khala'v Tamaya, not in the milk of a non-coaster animal. Okay, periods, we had three Le Moodim from the Khala'vima which apparently is three times in the Fumish, Lai Sermashal Gidee, Bechhala Avima, however we had six Le Moodim from the Gidee, but only since three times, hot, Tla-Sah Gidee, Xe-V, there's only three Gideees, how can you have six differently Moodim? Vanan, again, so the Gumara asks, Tla-Sah Gidee, Xe-V, Vanan, she said, Tla-Sah Gidee, we had six drushed up above from the Gidee term. So I believe Russia's preferred years would take out the next line, so I could parenthesis

from before the word Kisavar until literally a line later before the word Khala'v, and we'll pick up with the word Khala'v, we're just going to go over the six Le Moodim and explain why that could fit, it would be a question from three different... Usually, three phrases getting three, the Moodim, so number one, say-Lens, which is the boiling and the milk of the... a bit of the fads of the animal, and number two, mesa, that would be the animal like an avella, Michad Krah, Nafki, those are both learned out from the same pasha, because the dead animal is still that animal, and the halo of the male is still the main part of the body of the animal, comma. The fourth Le Mood that we had, as far as dawn, I put number four, Nami-Lav Gidee, who is obviously, you know, boiling some blood of the animal in the milk, is not a blood,

it's not the animal, like it would be obvious, you wouldn't even need the Mew. Also, the fifth Le Moodim made, as far as the shuli of a placenta, Nami, pasha, balmuhu, made it come from the animal, well that's not the animal itself, it's barely like a, something that's excreted from the animal, or sent out of the animal, and therefore, be obvious, and you wouldn't need the Mew. Opasha, Luhu, train, in which case you're left with two issues. There was the Shalil, which is the third issue, and there was to exclude a Memej Memej, which was the sixth issue. Those were obviously should have to include the embryo, and the Mew-Ute Memej Memej Memej Memej Memej to exclude non-Koshra animals. Those are the other two Le Moodim, what they are used for, period. Asks to the more nervous, some are from all the Issa-Hal-A-Lissar, it sounds like the way Shlul's explaining things is that it's a isser how how isser. In other words you have the

the way that Rosary explains it. Let me see over here. Here. You're being the second to service with the callister, Allah Hafiz, you're saying, okay, may some of you have been on the phone. Okay, so now the tomorrow asks, Shmoor really holds that in his callister that if you have one isser, a second isser can be called on it. The question takes about five lines of development. We're talking about Shmoor, I serve with Shmoor's name and Shmoor Allah. I mean, I'm the kind of Tommy. Sha'ah al-Trumah. So it's going to be another case that Shmoor comments it on. Here you're going to have a Cohen who is Tomey. He eats Trumah Tameyah. How do you know Shainah, I never one in the word Shainah, that he's not Be Misah. Normally it seems like a Cohen who eats Trumah could be the Misah, if he's Tomey.

Well, the thing is Shainah, the Pussick qualifies that isser of Cohen eating Trumah that when he is Tomey says, we may so, Bui ki halul, we may let the call, we would eat Trumah when the colon is Tomeyah, we'll actually have to get Misah, we'll die because he has profainted it. Now, it qualifies it doesn't just say across the board, it says no because he profainted what sounds like that if the Trumah was already Tomeyah, that it wouldn't be included, that's what we're going to say. Now, prior to the exclusion, let's zoo this piece of meat, Shremykh, it was already Tomeyah. E-Bizema answers the Gamara, we're going to have I believe three given answers, I squill and I'm going to be by saying, I hear two lines later in the middle of the line, I squill and I'm going to be by saying, and the first of the widest lines, the fourth and fifth word, I squill and I'm going to be by saying, either you could say, but I'll miss her call, really in general, Shremykh would tell you that yes,

it's her is call, so you can have one is her, come on top of another one, there's two is her, Fishini, Hossam is different over the by the Trumah, the Meeh, Raqman, because by the Trumah is an exception, the pusset doesn't say by Trumah, it will Masew, when they will die, it says, will Masew, Bui, people in line, the bow, the bow is a Mute, this is that and only that case, Bui, Simeis, Bui, and I'm the Baisama, but I'm going to cover Shremykh that in general, Shremykh actually holds the other way, A, that double in line the word A, A is a Chalice, or oh no, one something's us, we can't have another, that will come on top of it, the Shini, Hossam is different over here, which is Buss Makhalov, in our case, the Rabirachmana-Geddy, because the pusset specifies, and a more inclusive term, by using the term Qeddy, Bui, Simeis, Bui, Simeis, Bui, Simeis, Bui, and I, Bai, Simeis, now, alternatively Hadiday, Hadir Abay, one in Sissi, Tum, one in Sissi, Tum, and he was quoting, but he was quoting, and then he was ready, period. Bui, Nerevach, Bui, Barami, Mi, Ra,

or maybe Ra, or maybe he asked the following question, call it, the Baisama, Bhe, Bhe, Halev, Geddy, Shaloi, Haneika, Maho, so let's say the Qeddy, meat was boiled up in milk of a Geddy, limousional huneika is that it hadn't ever nursed, meaning it never really gave birth. Now, when it's close-giving birth, it might have some sort of like a liquid, almost like a milk type of liquid that is producing. How do you know that that would be, what would be the situation? I would have been a Dr. Issa, sir, maybe Dr. Bonner, maybe not, but also Amalai says back, let's say, Rava, to Rava Vakta, Bui, me, the history of the Shmua, the Maimah, from that Shmua had to say, Bhe, Halev, he might be, Bhe, Halev, Zakhar, that the Issa, the Issa is in the milk of its mother, not from the milk of a male, Zakhar, well that's what's a male, who do I still look like?

Aim, aimale, as much as modern intelligentsia might want to tell you otherwise, no males do not ever have the ability to mother a child, look, a word mother, Abalai, Kavan, Debala, Kaleim, since we're talking about a female animal, that's not about the birth, it can certainly become a mother, or so it would be a forbidden period. Itmar, how about this, I'm a Vashel, Kalev, Bhe, Salav. How about one who boils up, Kalev, there's a bit of fat, it's been an animal in halav and milk. Colan, Rabami, Burvasi, two rabbis, yep, you guess the two opinions. God, I can go and find one on my asses, like it'll be Malkus, Lasha's Rakhad, and the other one I squill on the word, Khad Amar, Ain't a Laker, no lashes, basically over Dharaisa, or not Mahokas. Well, Lala Mahakumavali, should we say, I don't underline those three words, should we say that this is what they are arguing about, Colan?

Tim Mahandamar, I double on on the turman, like the one who says, that there is Malkus, Ksufr, Isra Khallisr. You know why there's going to be Malkus? Because we have an Isra, that'll be Khall on top of a Isra, and therefore you're violating the Dharaisa, or who Mahandamar, I double on on this Mahandamar. Ain't a Laker, there's no Malkus, Ksufr, and we're only talking about the second Isra. So if the second isra will be Khall on top of the first Isra, then there would be Malkus if you hold Isra Lisr. But if you don't, then there wouldn't be. And then there's three approaches to say, no, actually, I don't think so. I put number one in the margin circle to here, on the second line, and Kufu Dallan, but I'll have number two in the margin circle to it. And let's see, two, four, five lines later, I guess on the seventh line, on Kufu Dallan, but I'll have number three in the margin circle to it. So here's the first is the three approaches, back three lines on the bottom, and Kufu had gimmel on the base. So, what says, no. To cool down the everyone, really holds Ain't a Likha Lisr, meaning all of the opinions hold that. Kama, a Khila to come and lay plegee to laylilok,

as far as the eating of it for sure, there would be no Malkus. Keep plegee, the whole Malkus, that was going to be on the boiler of it in the first place. Keep plegee, yeah, Bishla, I don't know, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to lie, because there is Malkus. You know, why? Because, Kadi, there's only one Isra, because everyone holds Ain't a Likha Lisr. And the one says there would be no Malkus, Lahakiaf, Kama, a Lakhila, belloshrain, Bishla. Now, it's just three times late, Sivashel, Kadi, Bihalev, Imae, that sounds like what the Dariah says isr, that the Malkus would be the boiling, not the eating. Kama, a Lakhila, Lokki, so since there is going to be no Malkus for the eating, Abishul Nami Lokki, so too on the boiling of V by Isaima, there's a second approach, right? We'll not be by Isaima. Abishul Kali, I'm a Lakhila, no, no, everyone agrees,

if for the boiling of it together, there will be Malkus. Keep plegee, the whole Malkus is going to be a Khila, and I double underline the word, a Khila. Mandam, right? We'll not be the Mandam, we'll not be the one who says Ain't a Likha, no Malkus, the Ain't isr, Alisr. You know why? Because that would be a second Isra, that came about when they were boiled together, as opposed to what had happened before. Umandam, right? We'll not be by Isaima. Like you, says there will be Malkus, Lakhila, the Afkra Khman, the Lakhila, Bellal Shrain, Bishul. That's why the third three times, there's do not boil, which is really also long, you do not eat. Kama, the Abishul, Lokki, since there will be Malkus, the Lakhish, for the boiling of it together, Akhil Nami Lokki, so too on the eating of it. We'll be by Isaima. Isaima, Isaima, we'll not be by Isaima. It's a third approach, Malkada, Umar, Malkada, Vileble, they're basically saying, one is saying, one in, one is saying, the other, you know what, there's no disagreement between the two of them. Macefe. It's more brings in, it's green and half-line, Brace, which I boxed off, as a question on the approach that says, for the Bishul,

there's no Malkus. Here's the Brace, it starts here. Hamad Vashel, Be, May, Khalav. Let's say, what's boiled up in, you know, May Khalav is, there's the curves in the way, it's like the, the very, uh, liquidy, clear sort of stuff, uh, not the, the thick fatty sort of stuff, if you separate the milk, then May Khalav would be potter. Also, let's say, Dom Shabishul, Be, a blood, that was boiled up together with the Malkus, the animal would be potter, Kama, the third scenario, At Samay's Gidium, Karnayam, and Taflayam, uh, bones, sinews, horns, hooves, of an animal Shabashel, and Be, the milk would be potter, uh, not violating the Darius' hisser. Finally, category, the fourth category, Pigel-Nacer-Tame, let's say you have, uh, stuff that was eaten left over, or a Malksharfer to be left over, or it became impure, Shabashel-Mahalav, those that should be, Hyak. So the Gimura, uh,

assess well, then how, can the Malkus, the Sermon numbers, there's no Malkus, the Sermon, there would be. And so, it's the Gimura-Hai-Tana, Savar, that's because the author of this thing, it's the source of the opinion, not Aine, is the Kallus' brother, yes, isser, Kallus' that, even though somebody's already asked, you could have another isser that would, uh, take effects on top of it, thereby having two potential things that could be violated, period. We had said, I think just about four lines ago, there's a quote from that price, I'm a Vashel, but may, Kallav, potter. So if you boil up, not in the milk, but in, like, if the Malkus separated, and I guess it's the way, part of the Malkus, the clear watery type of part, misalysis would be a support to racialokist, it's none, here's a Mishnah, little seerishokist, coming up with a Mishnah. The Mishnah Maksheer says, follows that box up, it goes just over line. May Kallav, when you have the liquidy part of milk after it's separated, it occurs in the way, I think it's the way. Um, Haray-Hain Kallav has the same status as milk,

similarly, Ha-Mokhal, Haray-Huk-Hai-Shem-in. Malkhal is the stuff, when you take the algae and pick them, then you pile them up, and sort of let them heat up, they said, pre-oil, it might be seeps out. Well, it's basically the same status as oil. That's the only thing that's source connection, I'm very shlokish. Moishanu, Allah, Ha-Shem-in, that's right. That which we're going to compare at these things, is only as far as the issue of, you know, anything that grows, has you have, covered, covered, some sort of liquid, for it to be, after the couple, it's to become tummy. And that's what this is, to discuss, and it would be for, to match your dream. Of a lady in Bishul, Bas-Weh-Khal-Love, as far as the issue of boiling, like me, Malk, Malkh, Ainoi, or Aino-Khal-Love, that actually, know the way of, Malkh is not considered like, no, period. Ta-Rabana, the word rings now,

a five-line brysa, which I boxed off, and starts here. But, how they be mine, it's Mother's Milk, and they are more like, Ema, so I don't know they're Mother's Milk. They're called a part of a rockman, how you know you can't boil, like, a kid in a cow milk, or a cheat milk. Well, Amrice, it's called a flavor, it actually, logic would dictate that. Uma, Bishul, Bas-Weh-Khal-Love, B-H-Aaah, unlike people, animal, it's the offspring, another animal, like, a male, a calf that turns into a bowl, it's totally fine to have, you know, to be sexually with its mother, nests, I might be Shul-Loy, but it's definitely forbidden to be together if you're going to boil them together. Part of a rock-al, then certainly a cow, not a kid, and a goat, but a cow, or a sheep, shines through Ema, they're definitely forbidden with a Gidee, the Harbaut, and crossbreed them. A-N-O-I-D-N, shines through Ema, which, like, certainly

would be forbidden to be boiled, time will landmark to that. The Pus-Wek says, quote, B-Hale-E-Moy, which was actually the second usage of the term B-Hale-E-Moy. Now, since you don't really need a phrase in a positive, tell you something, if logic could tell you that, the price is a little bit interesting, because the price of quote in a positive says, I would only know Khal-E-Moy, the other Khal-E-Moy, you know, we say, it's a K-B-Kh-E-Moy. Now, we should have brought the K-B-Kh-Moy, and left it at that. But you have to think more than concludes that, and therefore, like, tell me, I don't know, we need to think about the Pus-Wek, so that the G-Moy says, once again, how long will he crawl? How I feel like, what do you need to Pus-Wek for? You just use, learn to use the K-B-Kh-Moy logic. So, I'm going to, if I'm going to, if I'm going to, I'm going to go back to that and say, and therefore, we need the Pus-Wek, because we should be able to make more, because you could say, the Ikra, the Dina, Pyr-Kha, you can actually start, like, shut up the logic, slug up the logic,

from its, from its very foundation. Khal-E-Moy, so what were you bringing it from? Apparently, the limit is coming from the term, I put in quotation marks, one word, E-Moy, it's mother, well, Mali-E-Moy, she came to the A-Moy, she typed up, so maybe, well, one second, you can't use the term, E-Moy, in the case of E-Moy, the mother, animal, is because, it would be forbidden to be checking the same case, the offspring, timer of a Par-Rosh, can you say this, say it, be said, by a cow, Shlain-E-Moy, and the machine, that would not be forbidden, long-lived, it's needed, therefore, Tommel-E-Moy, that's what you needed, Pyr-Kha-Le-Moy, period, I've gone.

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