Cillian Murphy | Oil and Gas Prices Soar Amid Trump’s Iran War, Worst Energy Crisis in Decades: A Closer Look

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During the shield of the America Summit

over the weekend, President Trump told Latin American leaders,

quote,

I'm not learning your damn language.

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No one imagines you at the kitchen table

with headphones on,

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On today's show, Seth talks to actor Killian Murphy.

But first, a closer look.

Oh,

oil prices are surging amid what experts are calling the worst energy crisis

since the 1970s.

Thanks to Donald Trump's reckless and illegal war in Iran.

For more on this, it's time for a closer look.

Donald Trump has repeatedly insisted that he knows the key

to bringing down inflation for everything

and it all comes down to energy.

We're going to bring down your energy costs

and with that, everything's going to follow.

I will cut your energy prices in half within 12 months.

That's going to bring everything down.

I will cut your energy prices by 55% to 50%.

Prices are going to come down.

Then everything else is going to start coming down to.

We're going to cut your energy prices.

That's going to be the beginning

and we're going to bring your cost of groceries, foods,

everything. We're going to all come down.

Within 12 months, all of your energy bills,

your car, your air conditioning, your heating, everything,

will be 50% 50%.

As goes gasoline and oil and gas,

so goes the rest of other products.

When you cut the cost of energy, you really

cut, you just cut the cost of energy.

Everything follows.

You're in an industry of business.

Whenever you want to call it a profession,

in many cases, everything follows energy.

I mean, I'm just impressed.

You have the energy to come up with so many synonyms for business.

Did Melania finally get you that fissaurus you've been asking for?

Mel, you're not going to believe how many different words

they have for business.

Industry, profession, trade.

This is all, that's a good venture.

Enterprise, pursuit.

This thing is awesome.

Great, good.

Also, I can't believe I have to explain this,

but that's not how it works.

We sell energy to the global market

and prices for foods.

We import, are similarly set at the global market.

Drilling for oil in Texas isn't going to change the price

of a banana from Guatemala,

unless, of course, when you're drilling for oil,

you strike bananas.

That changes everything.

And I can just say it's such a bummer

that drillers only ever strike oil.

Imagine how fun it would be for just thousands of bananas

to start gushing out of the earth.

Daniel Day-Lewis could do his first broad comedy.

There will be bananas.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm a banana man.

Did we do that whole tangent just so I could do my

Daniel Plainville, Plainview Impression?

We did, am I regretting that choice now?

I am.

I eat your banana!

I beg you to.

The point is that was the central thesis

of Trump's campaign. Bring down energy prices and prices

for everything else will fall.

And through the first year of his presidency,

even as prices for almost everything else rose,

there was one price he kept bragging,

slash lying about.

gasoline is less than two dollars in many places.

The gallon, which nobody expected to see, but I did.

We had yesterday three states where oil was at $1.99

since a gallon.

We have people now getting

gasoline for $1.99, $1.96, $1.95, $1.92, yesterday, somebody.

I was in a beautiful place called Iowa two weeks ago.

$1.85 a gallon for gasoline.

When I visited the great state of Iowa just a few weeks ago,

I even saw $1.85 a gallon for gasoline.

Where'd you see gas at $1.85 on Turner Classic Movies?

There's a little love that thing where he's like $1.97, $1.92,

and we're all impressed he can keep coming up with numbers

under $2.

$1.93.

Also, even if this is real,

you know we live everywhere, right?

Not all of us can fill up at crazy Dave's

discount gasoline in Cedar Rapids or whatever the **** you saw.

Also, you saw it.

You want us to believe you were at the pump yourself

filling up the presidential motorcade.

There's nothing quite like filling up a tank of gas

as you road trip across this great nation.

It clears your head, it clears your head.

I remember on a long drive coming up with the lines

to my now famous poem.

Nothing bad can happen. It can only good happen.

Also, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry to say once again,

Trump's claims about gas prices were wrong.

He spoke of some states hitting $1.99 for gas.

The lowest state average today is closer to $2.40

about 100 stations out of about $150,000 stations

are below $2.00.

Only 100 stations out of $150,000 were below $2.00 a gallon.

And of those $198 of them were run by an old man

and a tank top who tells teenagers,

I'll fill up your tank,

but I wouldn't go up to murder Lake if I were you.

The point is this was the entire purpose

of the Trump presidency, the main thing he got elected on.

The main thing he promised to fix,

the main thing he bragged about, energy prices.

When they go down, it fixes everything.

And that's why everything is so awesome right now.

This has been a closer, what?

It's not awesome right now?

All right, well then, roll the clip.

As the escalating conflict disrupts critical oil channels,

the cost of oil topping $100 a barrel

for the first time in almost four years

with a gallon of gas,

now up nearly $0.50 in a week on average across the U.S.

Markets are tumbling right now,

and the oil is surging price of oil.

This is now the biggest oil disruption in history.

Bad news if you drive a car,

heat your home, but good news if you've been stockpiling barrels

of crude oil at home like I have.

Oh, what's that?

Wife and children who've been telling me

I'm crazy for keeping barrels of oil

in our New York City apartment.

You're awfully quiet, all of a sudden.

Maybe we're about to find out,

Daddy was right about hoarding pogs too.

So Trump's once again betraying the centerpiece of his campaign,

bringing down prices, but don't worry,

he's got a strategy just pretend it's not happening.

Dana, I understand you just got off the phone

with President Trump.

What did you hear from him?

I asked about rising gas prices,

and he said, that's all right.

It'll be short term.

It'll go way down very quickly.

And I said, well, they're pretty high now.

And he said, no, they're up a little bit, not much.

You can lie about many things in American life,

but one thing you can't lie about is gas prices.

You know why?

Because they're on giant s**t signs on the side of the road.

Everyone sees it.

It's like how I only know the phone number

1877 cars for kids, you know.

If I ever get arrested and they give me one phone call,

I'm going to have to call them.

Hi, yeah, I don't have a car to give you,

but can you guys call Lauren?

Yeah.

That was sad, he was...

He just had cars for kids call me.

And honestly, we should do giant signs

for the rest of our politics.

There should be huge signs across the country

that say felony counts or number of times

the president is falling asleep on live TV.

Trump's relearning the same lesson Joe Biden learned.

You can't convince people the economy is awesome

if they think it sucks.

No one's going to magically change their mind

just because Trump tells them

he saw avocados five for a dollar

at a farm standard shrieve port.

So the argument is, don't believe your eyes.

Prices aren't going on.

But as allies in the GOP are taking a different tack,

they admit the war is costing us,

but say it's worth it.

A billion dollars a day.

Oil prices up 27% in a week.

You've got the president wanting a one and a half trillion dollars

defense budget in 27th.

The idea that the Pentagon is about to come to you

for $50 billion on these strikes to Iran.

How are you going to answer?

Best money you ever spent.

That's the best money I ever spent.

It's the same thing I said to my Mimal

when she yelled at me for getting lip fillers.

I don't care what you think.

I need to look my best when I audition

for the community theater production of Wicked.

I too can't sing you old barnacle.

I'll tell you what's not defined gravity.

You're big ol' sassy bosoms.

Ah, so sorry, Fox News.

I got to stop taking these zooms at home.

These guys are learning the cost of their reckless intervention

in real time.

For example, here's how Graham started out on Sunday morning.

We're going to blow the hell out of these people.

All right, and then later that day,

after oil futures began to skyrocket,

Graham changed his tune.

He tweeted, please be cautious about what targets you select.

Our goal is to liberate the Iranian people.

The oil economy of Iran will be essential to that endeavor.

Oh, so now that they're blowing up the oil refineries,

you want them to be a little more careful.

This is like when those mobsters hired the Joker to kill Batman,

but then they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

We didn't think you were going to burn the money, too.

I think this Joker might be a little

crazier than we thought.

Trump lied about ending foreign wars,

and he lied about bringing down prices,

and now those two lies are coming together,

and his reckless and illegal war with Iran.

Prices are surging, markets are tanking,

but Trump isn't worried because he won't bear the cost.

The rest of us will, for us, bad can happen.

But for him...

It can only good happen.

This has been a closer look.

Well, there's no secrets here.

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All right, guys, tonight is an Academy award-winning actor

and producer, you know, from films

such as Obanheimer, 28 Days Later,

Batman Begins Inception and Dunquer.

He returns as Tommy Shelby

and the highly anticipated film, Peaky Blinders,

The Immortal Man,

which is in select theaters now

and available on Netflix on March 20th.

Please welcome back to the show,

and kill Ian Murphy, everybody!

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

This is a roll.

You did six seasons of this incredible character

with your creator, Steven Knight.

And I'm wondering, like, is that...

Do people still yell out Tommy to you?

Is that a character they associate with you?

Yeah, I mean, it's probably the one I get yelled at, no.

It is the one I get yelled at most.

Yeah.

Do they yell?

Is there anything they yell at you more often than anything else?

No f***ing fighting.

Yeah.

No f***ing, yeah.

It's a lot of...

I'm just going to the shop to buy milk or, you know,

whatever, and get a lot of that out.

And someone will just scream, no f***ing fighting it.

No f***ing fight, yeah.

For people who don't know your work, it must be very jarring.

They're like, this poor man's trying to buy milk.

He didn't even look close to fighting anyone.

There's no context, yeah.

Does anybody ever yell at, like,

eh, up in Heimer, do they ever?

Not so much.

Yeah.

It's weird, because, like, Tommy just seems like a guy

you want to yell at, whereas, like, up in Heimer,

you're like, you know what, he seems guy.

He's got a lot on his mind.

It would be a longer conversation.

It would be a longer conversation.

Yeah, he doesn't seem like a guy you just, like,

high five and let him go about his day.

Not a high five, or no?

Did, uh, you know, I know one of the trepidation

about a show that, you know, ended so well

after six seasons.

Yeah.

Like, to return to it,

it requires the work to be up to the same, you know, standard.

Yeah.

How much did you guys think about that?

How hard did you work to make sure that it fit in?

A lot, a lot to be honest with you.

I mean, like, it was 36 hours of telling,

I'm really, really proud of what we achieved.

I love at the ending of season six.

It was quite ambiguous and quite open-ended.

We were going to do season seven and then COVID happened,

so we pivoted to the movie.

And we worked an awful lot on developing the story.

And like, it was really about figuring out

what was it that made Peaky Tick

and what made Tommy Tick and its family, right?

It was, that was the whole,

the main thematic kind of drive of the show.

So therefore, we figured out, like, it had to be,

like, family had to be the overriding kind of team.

I always, one of the things I love so much about,

the show is each season, like, I felt like two or three,

like, heavy hitters would come in

and sort of join for a season.

And you've pulled that off as well with this film.

They're like new people who were not part

and they joined and it's fantastic.

Yeah, we've had amazing actors over the years.

Sam Niel, Adrian Brody, Tom Hart,

like incredible, incredible actors.

I always think if you write great parts,

get great actors.

Yeah.

So yeah, we're Becca Ferguson.

We have Barry Keoghan, Tim Roth.

It's really good.

Barry Keoghan plays your son.

And is it, can you explain real quick

how you went about asking if you play your son?

So, gosh, he tells this anecdote way better than I do.

So, okay, so it was Father's Day.

We know each other since Don Kirk's.

He was, like, only a kid then and so,

so he texted me on Father's Day.

I had forgotten it was Father's Day.

Or nobody had let me know it was Father's Day.

I didn't get in.

Right, we should, this is a good time to say,

like, you actually have children.

Yeah.

It was very much should have been on them to tell you.

You would think, I mean, it's, yeah,

and I didn't get any, anyway.

He, like, Barry texted me.

Yeah.

Very kindly and very nicely.

And he said, you know, hey, kill, how are you doing?

And then I said, I'll just say to him now.

So I texted him back and said,

how do you want to play my son and peak of owners?

Yeah.

And there was a sort of, you know,

when you can see people are typing.

And then he said, yeah, he was into it.

That's great.

Have you since told your sons that if they had said happy

Father's Day to you, they would have been in peak of owners?

You're like, it was, they went to the first person who

said something to their dads.

Oh, yeah.

I'm using that one, yeah.

That's really fantastic.

Also, you, as I'm thinking back to Dunkirk,

you were very kind to Barry's character and Dunkirk.

Okay.

That was by accident.

Okay.

Oh, that's true.

You haven't seen the film.

It was, yeah.

It was, I'm killed in by accident.

Yeah.

I mean, of course, that's exactly what you would say.

Yeah.

It was a terrible accident.

It was a terrible accident.

A wonderful film, a terrible accident.

Yes, yeah.

Another, you know, it's interesting,

because there's certainly parallels to Peggy Blinders.

20 years later, Bone Table,

Fantastic Film that comes out this year.

And just an incredible moment

at the end of the film where we see your character

from 28 days later.

And, you know, very similar, right?

Like, you make this incredible work

and to decide to make more of it,

it has to rise to the level of what came before.

And, you know, that was a movie I love so much.

And so it was very exciting to see you in it.

How did it come about?

Like, when they reached out for that,

was it a similar thing?

Did you, had you texted Happy Father's Day to someone?

And then they...

No.

No, that's one of the few films

I think that I've revisited over my career,

because it was a huge film for me,

because it was the first film that really broke through.

And, you know, Danny Boyle directed it,

and it was a huge director for me growing up.

I had his posters on my wall, and I was a kid.

And then I'd always...

I did text them occasionally, saying,

we like, it's any chance we'd ever, you know,

make another one, because again,

that was left quite open-ended.

And then Alex Garland, who is the writer,

came up with this setup for the next kind of,

like, 28 years later.

And that movie I mentioned was directed by Neil DeCosta,

Danny did the movie before on.

Right.

So, yeah, I think they're brilliant films,

so hopefully you get to make it current.

Yeah, it was very nice.

And, again, it's, you know,

sometimes sequels come out one year after the other,

after the other, and when there's a nice bit of a

breathing room between them,

I think it makes it very special.

Well, 28 years, you know,

it's...

That's about it, right in the right amount.

I like 28 years between it.

I've got a lot more to ask.

You'll stick around.

Be right back with more Kelly.

Right.

We're back with Kelly Murphy.

I didn't tell you this last time,

you hear it, but I remember when I saw

28 days later, I saw you on screen.

I'm like, I feel like I've seen that guy before.

Oh.

And I had been at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival

as a young comedian in 1997,

and I saw this little play called Disco Pays.

Oh, wait.

And I know later you were,

there was a film version of it,

but I saw you on stage.

You must have been a very...

I mean, I was very young and you're younger than me,

so you must have been a child.

So, 97, I was 21, yeah.

Yeah.

And, you know, that was an incredibly formidable time

for me on stage at that festival.

That show kind of...

Was that your first gig?

I was my first ever professional gig, yeah.

And we took it all around.

It was myself and Eileen Walsh,

she played Runt, and I was big,

she was Runt and the Walsh wrote that play.

And it kind of changed everything for me in my whole career.

And we did that in the Traverse Theatre,

I don't know if you remember, in Edinburgh.

And that was like a kind of magical time.

The play went on at 11 o'clock at night,

so we would do the play from 11 to 12,

then go out like,

yeah, having the crack all night long.

And then...

Sleep all day long.

Yeah.

And then...

Being part of any show at Edinburgh is really special.

I think anyone who's been to the festival knows it,

but like being part of a show that's like working,

it has a little bit of buzz about it.

Like, it's weird, like, almost nothing

in my career ever since has been like it.

It's insane.

It's like the energy in that city at that time,

and meeting other artists, meeting other actors,

meeting other, you know, theatre makers and comedians.

And it's an amazing time, yeah.

It was very cool.

You had a music background first, right?

Before I act, you were in a band with your brother?

Yeah, I mean, that's really...

That's what I wanted to do.

Yeah, I wanted to be in a band and didn't work out.

I played it my brother and he's all pals in mine and...

Older younger, your brother?

He's two years younger.

Okay, gotcha.

So, did you talk him into joining a band

or was it both you just wanted to do it?

Well, he became a very, very good keyboard player,

so he became extremely useful to me.

Yeah, then I...

That's a key to younger brothers everywhere.

It's like, learn a skill.

Yeah, learn a skill.

And then I put him in the band,

and he's an extraordinary musician still to this day,

so yeah, then we got very serious.

We were very serious about it, you know,

but didn't quite work out.

You have a radio show in BBC Radio 6.

Yeah.

Killian Murphy's limited edition.

Yes.

And, well, this is very low-fi as well.

Where do you record your radio show?

Oh, just in my basement of my house.

Okay, great.

And this is basically you curate a playlist.

Yeah, I have a...

Do you remember in the old days,

some of you might remember this,

you would make mixed tastes?

Of course.

To sets.

Yeah.

Like just...

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was so, it was, it was so much fun,

and they were so, like,

they were filled with so much meaning,

and everyone takes such care to make the cassettes

and write the names out on the back,

and, you know, name the cassettes.

And so it's kind of like,

it's sort of a digital version of that,

and I do a little bit of waffling on in between,

like, put it's just, like, little mixed taste.

I wouldn't applaud the amount of waffling,

because one, I find your voice very calming,

and I also like your music taste.

So it works out really well.

I would worry that I would want to talk over-talk

about how much I like each song.

I feel like you found a nice balance,

where, like, I can tell exactly how much each song

means to you, but then you don't over-stay your welcome.

Is that something you found right away?

Or...

That's very kind.

No, I think I just get a little embarrassed

listening to myself.

Yeah.

You know, you start...

What are you talking about it?

And I also like, you know,

when songs go into, move into other songs,

so that, again, the playlist thing,

so one song would speak to another song,

would speak to another song,

and so I adore making those songs.

It gets trickier, I think,

as you get older, to still discover new music.

Do you feel like you're doing a good job

at holding on to that?

My kids do, you know, they're 18 to 20,

so they're...

That's great.

Extremely relevant,

and extremely keyed in, you know what I mean?

Do you have a lot to do?

Did you try to, like,

sort of seed your musical DNA

in their tastes when they were young?

Yes. Okay.

I mean, I feel like I brainwashed them in a really good way.

Like, you know, like,

in driving to school in the morning,

they're stuck there for that, like, the time...

Yeah.

Just play the Beatles, play Led Zeppelin,

play Neon to Simone, just overall...

And they wouldn't sort of bully you out

because I...

Maybe my kids just don't like my music taste,

but I couldn't make...

I could not get them, for example,

to listen to Led Zeppelin

until there was a song in, like, Thor.

And then they were like,

oh, we like that song.

I'm like, I've played you that song.

And it turns out, like, I guess they want to hear it via Chris Hemsworth,

like, not via me.

It's hard to resist it then, I think.

Yeah, I just played it really, really loud.

I think it just...

Yeah.

Didn't listen to them.

Well, that's it, yeah.

You guys, if you turn it up so loud, they can't hear you.

Yeah, that's a good way of going about it.

You also have...

You interact with your listeners,

which is you answer questions,

but you...

It's a very nice way to sort of qualify the questions.

You want reasonable questions.

I only want reasonable questions.

Yeah.

And is this something that, from the very beginning,

did you ask for reasonable questions only?

Did you know that if you didn't sort of make that a distinction,

you would get dumb questions?

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think you have to, like,

now people are extremely respectful.

Yeah.

And it's generally about music and about a little bit about

our kind of books or, you know, very little about, you know, acting work,

which is lovely relief for just to take a little pause from that

and to talk about stuff that you're really passionate about.

Yeah. Do you ever...

I mean, I think there's also something really vulnerable

about putting together, like...

I mean, when mix tapes, especially,

but, like, this is sort of this very public mix tape.

And I feel like there's a tendency for people to sort of, like,

shame you for your musical taste and whatnot.

Do you overthink it ever?

Or are you just, like, I'm fully confident with what I like?

Yeah, I overthink it.

Like, everything I overthink, everything, probably.

But, like, but I think that, I think that music, like,

I don't... I think it's impossible to be a music snob right

if you listen to everything.

Yeah.

You know, I think the snubs are the people who just listen to one

type of music or one record.

If you listen to every genre and you're open to everything,

then, you know, then you can only be curious.

Curiosity is the thing you need for music.

I also still like the way that a human being sort of curates a playlist

because I think one of the problems of, like, the algorithm

and, like, AI, right, is they'll listen to, like, what I'm listening to.

And they'll be like, you should like this, this, this, and this.

And it's always exactly the same as what I'm listening to.

So, I highly recommend it.

And I just want to...

I think you're a very good musical taste.

And I'd like to listen to you talking to you.

It's very kind of you.

And it's great to see you again.

Thank you so much to be here.

You too, congrats on the film.

So, it's the pleasure.

Thank you.

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