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today on the show my producer Eric is in studio what's up man hey

brother on last episode brother we were looking at some quotes from pastors

about money and I have some more quotes I want to read you from pastors from

pastors religious leaders talking about money and I want you to agree or

disagree with their takes here should be to it you ready and I tried to do a

mix of some I was literally born ready literally born again ready born again

or something on the issue podcast they they're none of them come from a

Christian background so they always they always are like confused when people

talk about being like born again but then the host always says he's like a new

born Christian I think it's so fine to be like I'm new born that's what's

it a born again that's what you can call it yeah that's funny that's what we're

laughing so much it's really fun we're just both tired we're both tired right

now wait where's the laughter I don't know are you ready they're all turned down

all of all is applicable whatever nope that's probably more ready yeah okay first

quote money is a servant not a master steward it for eternity not yachts I agree

with the first part the eternity part maybe less so I'll go more at the

die was zero campaign then steward it for eternity but the first part's good

money money is a bad master servant that's jump hyper okay and we agree with

everything John Piper says right yeah right Eric yeah I'm coming up with a good

clip for you yeah I love everything he says sweet if your husband is hitting

you in dirt getting smack for a night as he actually said that that's hilarious he said

just in dirt being snack smack for a night they go talk to your pastor that is wild

it's like actual words that came out of his mouth I want to show you the clip but it's

not relevant yeah at all it's not but yeah yeah he said if she has to in dirt being

smack for a night you know amen amen all right anyway here's another one the man who

has God and everything else has no more than the man who has God only oh I see okay

so it took me a second that one took me a second to read it I would agree if you substitute

if you assign the meaning of God to whatever purpose yeah purpose meaning you know family

happiness universe whatever you know you personally believe then I would then I would go yes

on that all the Christian needs oh I'm sorry that was toger a W toger yep all the Christian

needs is a Bible a pig and a wife wealth beyond iscentation or if you're a real Christian I can

already picture about this pastor would be like all the Christian ages Bible a pig and a wife

and I look out of some of you right now it looks like you got two for one deal exactly that's

where it's literally where they would have my exactly where my it's so annoying it's like it

basically you just have to go what's the lowest denominator joke and that's it there you go all

Christians need is a Bible a pig and a wife wealth beyond is temptation no bad oh in correct I

can't believe you're saying this about Martin Luther Martin Luther to be clear this is Martin Luther

not Martin Luther King Martin Luther's quotes about the Jews are crazy really yeah that makes

this just this some side homework and realistically like to go down a rabbit hole can I tell you

the name of his book Martin Luther's book Martin Luther's book he wrote a book about Jews

mm-hmm such a diabolical laugh here we go in 1543 Martin Luther wrote a 65,000 word

treatise called on the Jews and their lies why don't you know here's here's one more piece

one more thing about the Jews there did you know did you know that Henry Ford I told you this

potentially Henry Ford had a picture of Adolf Hitler on his desk okay and Hitler had a picture

of Henry Ford on his desk because they were so inspired by each other but you also know Henry Ford

himself used to produce a magazine publication against the Jews really just like an anti-Semitic

publication Jack of all trades that Henry Ford America's truck every time I see a Ford commercial

stuff built for a very specific subset of the population and no one else anyway here we go

prosperity teaching turns Jesus into a genie give to get rich heresy you have to say that one more

time prosperity teaching turns Jesus into a genie give to get rich heresy okay all right I'm

gonna bore with that one I'm gonna bore with that one okay John MacArthur fan over here shot I

love me some John MacArthur you know there's a group of kids from West Coast that went to

John MacArthur's service in college and then got in big trouble for doing that and then a couple

years later Paul Javel posted a picture with John MacArthur really his brother really he said it

with like that surprising with an a my brother yeah no and I thought like that that's my biggest pet

piv is like is like when the standards loosen which I think is a good thing many times it's a good

thing many times when the standards loosen about like dumb stuff like screens or music or whatever

but which I mean that's is when they just switch it but then you know that you got reading

but never address it yeah and they never say oh we were wrong they never address yeah it tries me

crazy it's it's what when we even hear stories about like the school that we grew up in stay on target

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yeah beards and like girls can work I just discovered if I do this into the microphone it sounds

really cool it sounds really cool all right I've held millions and felt empty true wealth is

generosity that hurts I think that depends on your personal might like what your goal is yeah that's

also a strange way to put it like generosity that hurts that feels strange like that's like my

experience anytime I've been generous it doesn't I think it's like giving be like giving a little

beyond your me like sure but even in those contexts I don't like it it's like I mean I guess I

guess because someone could see that and manipulate you like crazy yeah right exactly which is what

happened to me when I first started making money that's like how am I making thousands of dollars

from landscaping but I have like two hundred dollars my bank account oh the giving the giving bank

with took all my money yeah that's a that's Francis Chan okay okay isn't either one who wrote

love love wins or something like that yes Francis Chan no no no love was not wrong bell yeah no

Francis Chan wrote something else some bell love wasn't it wasn't he somebody that we looked at as

like a big compromiser or something was he like a pretty loved outside of IFB world okay what was

the quote again I've held millions and felt empty true wealth this generosity that hurts yeah I like

the idea of like feeling empty holding on to millions versus giving sure but again some of

this stuff's a little too dramatic yeah it's like just just be normal yeah like just maybe don't be

weird about it you know what I mean yeah wealth is a tool for ministry true riches are eternal

relationships not bank balances come on Travis makes try oh this is this is the yin and yang of

you oh yeah money in relationships Travis let me rephrase a statement true riches are your

relationships or true riches are making money yeah you Travis makes friends or Travis makes money

what are you doing relationships relationships over everything you know relationships plus nothing

equals everything you know what I mean you sure yeah okay yeah if you're gonna choose one of the other

then I'd rather have rich fulfilling relationships but that's the beauty is that you don't you don't

have to choose you can have you can have both of those things poverty is from the devil speak

wealth into your chest from wow poverty's from the devil this is somebody from the SPC or something

poverty's from the devil speak wealth into your cheeks why do you say that it was so unnecessary

to say in your cheeks your cheeks is wild work poverty is from the devil speak wealth into your

cheeks like I did it with my 18 million dollar citation jet what what this sounds like some

Kenneth Cole right on is that who it is that's hilarious well what do you think speak wealth

dude we need that to be the new sign off speak wealth into your cheeks do you find him saying that

you need to speak wealth into your cheeks we have to find him saying that I hope it's not

about the song speak wealth into your cheeks which cheeks Kenneth which she's into your cheeks

I'm just gonna start saying that that's some swag right now

oh man that's good but speak wealth into your cheeks I don't think he said that somewhere

that is crazy work goodness gracious that I want printed on a on a t-shirt speak wealth into

your cheeks no you know what that'd be great for is on the butt of a pair of sweatpants

to speak instead of juicy you know there's a whole clothing brand it's a very smart business

because I follow a musician and then she started like she because like she would always wear

these ones you perform but they're they're oh my god what are they called they're like booty

shorts with writing on the back but they're like I don't know but one of them should say speak

wealth into your cheeks that is a really good one yeah is it the bummer shop is that what they're

called yeah yeah yeah yeah this is it this is such I like I was like dude this is such a smart

apparel company brand educating the public one so it's like social what's the word like social

justice type stuff for like important things so it's like it's like ask me about the book I'm reading

yeah like it's a lot like more like lefty stuff so but but it's like yeah it's smart though yeah

like it's just yeah like man created god because it couldn't stand that women create life how about that

wow abortion safer than title I would pay good might as you wear these what look at this look at

these shorts the only ethical consumption of capitalism it's an arrow to their nether regions you

know Kenneth Copeland's leaning over to speak wealth into those cheeks I would love you'd love to

see one pair of those Copeland speak wealth into the chief speak wealth into your cheeks but anyway

but this is like one of those clothing brands but like that is so smart yeah because it's something

that people like again one butter to time you see people posted and you're like oh that's

Ted Benny's report I will wear these actually Ted Benny's Republican so it was John Wayne

Gacy actually that makes sense but you know what that means every single person is a Republican

is probably a serial killer that is what that is just that's how stats work that is that's how

they're wrong yeah speak wealth in the cheeks speak speak wealth in the cheeks is crazy I love

that the quote ended with him talking about his jet where does he say that where did where did he

say that he always has to bring the attention back to his jet it's it's just on the box it is

perpetually making up this quote is this a real quote you're googling it now give me a citation

what if it just made that up no that's not a wow do we just get a just a negative point on

perplexity now how did they get to cheeks where did cheeks come from wow so we've just been

engaging in fake news fake news well now this calls in a question the last 10 years no I do know

the other ones that we pull up I was looking and I mean that's a that's one that we should cross

check yeah because it's a wild thing to say that is so crazy that perplexity just defamed Kenneth

Copeland yeah I just want to say to Kenneth Copeland's robust legal team yeah we really didn't know

we did but see look hey how about that we fact check that on this episode we didn't let it slip

by admitted the apology yeah AW I will say all the other quotes I know because I've heard 90%

of the party that's true so but it's crazy perplexity was perverse enough to say speak wealth

in your cheeks if perplexity was going to give a quote to like that and attribute it to somebody

Kenneth Copeland would be the one that makes most sense you want to know how it got there

wow so it says no that's not a verbatim real quote from Kenneth Copeland it's a paraphrase blending

his actual teachings for dramatic podcast effect don't do that that's hilarious Copeland has

repeatedly preached that poverty is from the devil and belongs to Satan's kingdom and then it says

cheeks came from I said where did cheeks come from it's a cheeks and that Kenneth Copeland

paraphrase comes from a viral 2021 clip where he infamously puffed out his cheeks while laughing

off COVID-19 as demon germs it's not a direct quote but a podcast ready mashup nodding to that

moment blending with his real that's that's a crazy perplexity don't do that don't ever do that

I only want verbatim quotes bro yeah quotes you liar perplexity doesn't have a track we were

tracked all the laughter I had a laughter that that is funny that is funny but I don't like that it

lied so I said only verbatim quotes yeah thank you to be fair there's plenty of stuff that kind of

Copeland has actually said that's comedy enough we don't have to embellish yeah I don't know I

don't like that I don't like that it did that and I want everyone to know that the other quotes are

real yeah okay then fact checked now yeah all right man that really that really ruined my day

bums me out okay how about this one buddy but God wants you to be so financially stable that

you can bless others extravagantly say that again God wants you to be financially stable so

that you can bless others extravagantly yeah I like that one I definitely thought you said goblins

at the beginning goblins sounds like another made up the goblin the goblins are blowing wealth

and you cheeks no God wants you to be financially stable that you can bless others extravagantly

yeah that's a good one TV jakes agree you know TV jakes was like I feel like now I can't

have scared to give any more wrong information but there was allegations about TV jakes

doing freaky stuff at a ditty party who before ditty got arrested for that and he was like I

denied that nothing ever happened with ditty and then like the ditty went down yeah and then tjx

retired recently actually I think I'm just gonna I think I'll do maybe I'm just gonna move to

this country oh oh there's no extra edition here crazy let me fact check that tjx retired now I

don't know what to believe tjx I believe he did and they just handed yeah he retired in 20 25

that's a good quote though yeah good quote though yeah bad about ditty great quote yeah we can

dem what ditty did bishops that's the overall traps makes money take on this holy smokes tjx has

been the subject of an unverified AI generated rumor linking into the legal troubles and freak off

parties of shan ditty comes I know yet I had actual a fuser to just saying but he had previously

partnered with ditty's revolt TV network in 2021 for a sermon series he did attend a birthday

party for come oh wait he partnered with ditty for a sermon series for a sermon series for his

teeth on ditty's TV network man did he was doing everything or a representative for jakes confirmed

he attended a birthday party for comes in 2022 but emphasized it was brief public appearance

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suspicious less innocent like oh you think nobody but anyway that's also one of those crazy

jakes crossovers where pastors just like sweep under the rug all the other things that celebrity's

doing just uh no jakes jakes stated that roughly 44,000 AI generated bots were used to spread

misinformation about them on social media that's an oddly specific number he filed a legal motion

in 2024 to uncover the identity of some individuals behind the defamatory videos link him to com's

retired me left bye bye well thank you for this one good quote did you talk about okay what

okay it was a good quote let's do another quote let's get a let's get it off the diddy trainer

nothing that's not for everybody who's trying to say I've got the big house I've got four cars

got his bless me and I earned it this is just a quote this is the fact that's Joyce Meyer yeah

you like that sure sure yeah sure this okay how about this one last this one's real last one touch

this screen it's a televangelist touch the screen show your best seed poverty demons flee

who that sounds like Kenneth Copeland no poverty demons flee poverty demons flee

tops the screen show your best seed yeah that's all prosperity poverty demons flee bullshit

you're not gonna get any richer by touching a screen if you show your seed we're praying a prayer

I'm just touching the screen and so am I see who is that

been in wow that makes a lot better classic grade A grifter yeah grade A grifter yeah what okay

let me ask you this do you have any pastoral words of wisdom about finances that you carry with you

to this day a quote where your treasure is that's where your heart is survival that's not a pastoral

no I want to pass your quote oh then no I don't okay nothing that I would say remains true

because I've had to do a lot of reworking around my mindset about money what's the worst quote you

ever heard about finances probably the most egregious one is because it's everything everybody's

heard it is people just started saying the the that money is a root of all evil rather than the

love of money is the root of all evil I think that's probably the most well-known misquote of what

the Bible actually says that probably proliferates a lot of people who grew up religious is that

they conflate those two things in those are two wildly different things true go ahead and close

this out there Travis thank you so much we're gonna go ahead and bring this in for a landing

they even have landed say I don't know what this sounds like but it's not it's it's just like

when you're watching a movie they're in space we're approaching an asteroid field yeah

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