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Teddy Melanchamp. I just jumped right in there. You just jumped right in. I was doing an ad and I got all sides tracked and I was like, I'll send that ad. I heard it all say, like a snake. Like a snake. Like a little slithering snake. I mean, you know, I got to tell you, it doesn't really get my rocks off to do the start anyway. I'm like, who would I get to do the intro? Oh, man, I woke up feeling like I've been hit by a truck. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. I didn't wake up feeling gritty that I'm like. Well, you have excuses. I just like, I went to bed last night and I'm like, God, like, my mom. God, like, my chest feels like somebody's stepping on it, you know, and I'm like, what is going on? Maybe because allergies, all that stuff, the weather's been super hot. Now it's getting cooler. And I'm like, what the f and I woke up this morning and I'm like, oh my god, I think I'm getting sick. No, hopefully not. Take like some emergencies and all those.

It's like, welcome to 59. But I know. I'm supposed to go to a late lunch day with Heather for my birthday and I'm like, oh my God, if I'm sick, I'm not going to go. Oh, I don't want to get her sick. Is this supposed to be an orange county or a Beverly Hills orange county? She's doing her confessional today. So, oh, well, that's perfect. Yeah, hopefully you'll feel better. Just woke up. I know. I know. I know. So London. Oh, like I had to turn down the volume on my iPad because it was screaming and screeching. It made like orange county when you guys scream at each other seemed like you don't scream at each other. Well, you can't, yeah, you can't understand anything that's being said because they're talking over each other. And quite honestly, this host, Catherine Ryan, she's not strong enough. She's not strong enough to get in between them. They had to have at one point production to come in and stop them.

And all I mean, I thought the host was nice, but it felt like a therapy session. And her one long earring with the Bob was just throwing off my brain. I mean, I couldn't even imagine doing that. However many months pregnant she is. I know. And I, you know, I did a little research on her because I'm like, I know she looks familiar. I know she looks familiar. She's a comedian, right? She's a comedian, but also she messaged me because she also had Malanoma. Oh my gosh, are you serious? Yeah, I was going to comment on her skin. She's got the you most beautiful, porcelain skin. Yeah, so I, and that's how I kind of knew her. But I agree. It did feel very like, I especially I think because I watched these two episodes and then I watched the love Island. Oh, yeah, and Ali that Andy hosted. Oh, he did the reunion. Well, it's, it's really hard to do a reunion with housewives after Andy.

Andy's been doing it from the beginning. Although, you know, the very first orange county, they had a reunion in Vicky's backyard with no host. There was no host. They were just being asked questions by a production producer. I mean, they were just like, yeah, repeat the question and then, you know, you don't want to seven wants to know. Yes, yes. So I think it's hard to follow in Andy Cohen's footsteps because he's put the blueprint out there. And people are like, nope, even when like Nick Vial and Stasi tried to do Marwan Wives, they're like, nope, nobody does were reunions like Andy Cohen. No one does reunions like Andy Cohen. But I mean, that being said, I think Andy would have gotten very annoyed during this reunion. He doesn't like all that yelling. Yeah, but he wouldn't have been able to control them. Yeah. Yeah, Catherine was having a hard time controlling them and just like at one point, just like, you have to give up. Well, and she was trying to explain each other's, like, I guess what I wasn't used to is what she was doing was explaining how the other person was feeling.

Okay, let's talk about that for a minute because Andy does that every so often. And he's done it with me. Well, maybe they were and I'm like, don't do that. I've never noticed him to do it. He's done it. He's done it before. And I'm like, don't I hate that. Don't do that. Don't try to explain their point of view and how I feel. Like you cannot do that. Just ask me the question and let me answer because that kept happening. And I was like, I don't know if this is helping or hurting. Well, it felt like a therapist. Yeah, was talking. And that's where it just kind of got weird. I think that's why I went down the rabbit hole because it's like, maybe she is a therapist. Maybe that's why he did. He did a good therapist. Yeah. But I mean, the reunion was good. Do I think it needed to be two episodes? Absolutely not. No, well, you know that I watched it last night. And I wasn't really feeling great. Then I woke up this morning. I'm like, I don't remember anything that I watched. So I had to rewatch it this morning. And the best way for me to absorb it is to write notes after each scene.

Yeah. And that way I memorized it. But otherwise I like it. I know it's hard. Because for my eyes out my ass. Yeah. Well, all the girls arrive at the reunion. Juliette M tells Juliette that she cannot stand being called fake and a liar. Who can? I mean, who loves that? I don't think anybody loves that. But do you think she's either of those things? I think everybody's a liar, actually. Yeah, everyone's a little bit of a liar. Yeah, I mean, I don't think Juliette A is a liar. I don't. I think she's like one of the more transparent girls on the cast. I find her to sound honest when she speaks. I feel like she owns her shit. I feel like she is so naturally just beautiful. Yeah. I mean, I think she's very effortless. I think very effortless. She is who she is.

But I think she's easily triggered by Amanda. I think everybody's easily triggered by Amanda across the board. I think Amanda messages. I think Amanda messages. She doesn't suggest and said she could come on the pod. She doesn't bite. She might not want to after we finish this reunion because I have a lot to say. And it's not personal, Amanda. I'll tell you that right now. Don't take a person. I'm just. Oh, I'm sure she's not going to take it personally. Well, it takes everything personally. Okay. You have been around reality people and been in the industry. You know sometimes like the people that come off the sweetest on reality TV are the most horrible human beings in real life. And then you have ones that come off like, you know, sound bitchy and mean. And then you meet them. They're like, oh my god, they're the sweetest people in the world. Yeah, I love it. So you never actually know and really don't know. And it's hard to judge somebody off of reality TV. But Amanda, reality TV is not your friend.

Of course our producers are all like Amanda is an icon. Everybody love all like all the guy. And then we're like, let's get that straight. It's one. It's just one. It's it is Matt. Amanda is a hard one to swallow. I for me personally because of all the, you know, patting on the back. She does for herself. How many times we had to hear about her legs and she's a CEO. I mean, even the host at one point goes, she's a CEO. I know she like looked at Juliet and Juliet's laughing. She's like CEO. That was my favorite part that Catherine Randon. But Juliet arrives in a shirt that says, I love pattington. Love it. Love it. She rocked it. But she was definitely doing it to like push some buttons. I would have done it too. I know you're like startle I get one of those. That'll dig. I wore one last year that said I hate liars. Three and a half. Oh my god. Well.

Then Catherine Ryan kicks off the reunion and she compliments Juliet, M's outfit and Panthea immediately chimes in and asks, is it borrowed? Oh, she's a lot. I wouldn't have her any other way that Panthea but she's a lot sometimes. And I'm like, I don't care if something is but I know we've said this before but I don't care if it's borrowed. Well, I will get into that because there's a big conversation about that one that's way too long. Now, do you think that all reunion should have a safe word? They should have used it. I never heard them say Paddington. You're right. They never used it. Even if they did, nobody would have been able to hear it because they scream over each other. Scream over each other the whole time. Like there wasn't a moment. And then like you started noticing random people just chiming in because they're like, I might not be able to talk at this reunion. If I don't chime in on this thing, that has nothing to do with me. Right. Right. This is where Amanda, I mean, this is one of the many reasons she just loses me.

She says it juliet lies about where she lives. We saw where she lives. She has talked about where she lives. We found out they live in the same burrow, whatever that means. I don't know. That's why I thought like the same zip codes. The raccoons and Ninja Turtles. They're in little burrows. Yeah. Funnies. Yeah. I don't... Why is she keep saying this? And then juliet's like, I don't want to reveal my exact location. And Amanda asks, what could be there to steal in your house knowing that she's already had a burglary? Yeah. That was bullshit. But she first puts her down that she can't afford anything and says that she doesn't have any burkins or something like that. And then at the end, she's like, what are they going to steal your one burkin? But also, this is where I was juliet A. I wouldn't have said, I have a couple burkins. Yeah. Like, just not it be. I know. But it's just so annoying.

Like, everything is so money driven with Amanda that nobody takes her serious. She's annoying, pretentious, and rude. Well, she also has this way about making every situation about her. And even when it doesn't involve her and then she's easily... This is the problem. She's easy to throw out insults, but she's easily offended. I know. And it's very hard to be both of those things. I think by the end of the reunion, we do find out a little bit more about Amanda, and we'll get into that later. But it's trying to help me understand her a little bit better and have sympathy, but it was hard for me. It was hard. When she told juliet, well, you basically live in the house. You live in the hood, but you stage your house well. Yeah. It's like I like your interior decorating, but you know, if it wasn't staged like that, it just... And I'm like, I thought you weren't friends. How do you even know what her house looks like? I know. She's basically telling her she put lipstick on a pig to make her house look good.

Yeah. And then there's like another moment about the Birken bags. And Amanda is like, oh, well, how are you going to pay for your kids later in life? You're just wasting their money on. And she's like, they have trust you dumb fuck. I love that. That was the best line of the entire reunion. They have trust funds. You dumb fuck. And I was like, I want to trust fun. You dumb fucks. I know. Well, I'm sure you will get some money one day. But not from a trust fund. I don't care where it comes from. But then my favorite moment of this entire portion is when Amanda goes, listen, bitches, but it comes off so awkwardly for her. And like all the girls, do you remember her doing that? Well, what she was saying was she was talking about how divorce goes. She goes, so let me explain this to you, bitches. And I'm like, ew, like ew, it's so weird. She's so contradictory that she tries to come off as this very sophisticated CEO of this skin care.

Skin care line. But then she says things like that. It doesn't like her actions don't match. They don't match. And also it's like we all don't live under a rock. Yes, you may have a job. But what I believe, I think it was even pantheon that was saying is like, we all have jobs, but we also like we are significant others are the breadwinners. Her money came from her ex has been. Yeah, like story. Why can't why does she have such a hard time admitting that? Well, she has a hard time admitting everything. If there's one housewife I'd like to see go through therapy on camera, it's her. No, she'd probably be yelling at the therapist the whole time. I think that there's so many deep rooted problems that makes her so insecure. I know, but it's it kind of takes away from the rest of the people on the show because she has to make such like a bold move. Multiple times that like you just get stuck on whatever she's saying. And then she yells over whatever any she doesn't give anybody else a chance to talk.

Yeah. But then eventually producers have to come in and break up Amanda and Juliette's fight. Yeah, the host had zero control. I think she could not stop them from fighting. I love British producers. They're like shut the fuck up. Is that what she said? Oh my gosh, this is very. That would have been a very hard reunion to host with these girls. I mean, especially because we've got Juliette Angus who's she's sitting first seat and she came in what fifth episode? Yeah, I have that written down. She came in halfway through and she's first seat. And I think that's a lot of the problem with the first seat. And I think that's a lot of the problem is Amanda is jealous of Juliette coming in. She thought she's going to take her thunder. Well, I didn't actually realize that Amanda had no idea that Juliette was walking in in that day where she had the ridiculous hat on. That it was a surprise to her that Juliette was joining the cast.

So right question. Was Amanda like this before Juliette came on the show? No, I don't remember her. No, she was kind of pretending just to be very proper and you know, like she was being above all the other women, but she wasn't. I didn't see her. The name calling all that stuff. I'm wondering if producers knew that was going to happen. Probably that's why they kept it a secret. You know those moments when you want something small that just tastes amazing. Not a big indulgence just to bite of something genuinely delicious and makes you feel better. Lately for me, that's been Gira Dele premium dark chocolate. And honestly, it's one of the best tasting dark chocolates I've ever had. I found myself reaching for it at the end of the day when I'm winding down while I'm listening to a podcast or even when I'm taking a few minutes away from my screen and just resetting for a bit.

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L who owns the boutique. How did you feel about her playing that voice memo? I didn't mind it. I was like, well, thanks for giving us the proof, but like who only lunatics. Who cares? Who care? And like, don't care. If anybody wants to talk about clothing on this entire thing, like, Nessie looked so damn good. I can't. Like all the rest of them. Sorry. And she's not talking about where she's getting her clothes. No. And I don't care somebody borrow's clothes. I really don't care. You know what? This is where I do care. And this is where I think maybe this is where Panthea could be coming from. It's when there was a certain somebody on our cast that was broke, didn't have any money, but would show up to events and $3,000 dresses. Right. And then they were borrowed or whatever or in confessional with these essential dresses. I think maybe that's where Panthea's annoyed because I got annoyed too.

It's like, be authentic to who you are. Right? Well, I think what Panthea has is that thing where she, it's not necessarily, like, it has to be, it has to feel true to her or else she can't let it go. And she, I think she did a good job owning that. She's like, I spiral out of control when I feel like things are not true. But did Juliet not admit to borrowing clothes? Juliet said that the mutual friend Elle reached out to her. Yeah. So she's admitted to borrowing clothes, but she just acted like they reached out to her, but she, she reached out to Panthea. If she was denying it and Panthea had truth, then I can understand that. So we go from close gate to tooth gate and I'm just like, are we seriously, are we seriously talking about this again? I mean, we get to tooth gate. Panthea's concern with Juliet and leads back all to tooth gate apparently. The fact that Panthea, not teeth x-rays, that grosses me out.

That reminded me when you said, we're going to get us to tooth paste that like made our teeth black and showed us where we had teeth. Okay, so I'm no dentist. However, I did pause on the x-ray. And most of his bottom teeth have fillings. And he needs his wisdom teeth out because his bottom teeth are very crowded. There's 16 bottom teeth including his, you know, that's including wisdom teeth. Who told you this? I watched it. 60. I heard them. So I thought, oh my god, that's like, he has so many teeth. So I googled it and I went, how many bottom teeth do we have? They said, including wisdom teeth, 16. How long are you counting? Okay, let me know when you're done. 16. So you never had your wisdom out? No, in my bottom teeth. I had one wisdom tooth out. On your top. Yep. Yep. So you, that's 16 teeth, but his bottom teeth,

Rose like really crowded. So I think he needs his wisdom teeth out. But did she say he had braces? She said he had braces and then, here's the thing. Don't switch dentist midway just because you want to get like, for the reason was, just go to the same dentist, then you wouldn't have had this problem, then you could have used your old X-rays. They could have corresponded with the new X-rays. But I think that for one thing I know for sure, I don't ever want to hear about housewives and cavities again. Right. Well, posting that the dentist is crooked is not a very smart thing to do. No. By the way, there are a lot of dentists that are scammers out there. I mean, I've left a dentist appointment where somebody wanted to charge me like, I mean, they were saying it was 1300 pounds, which I was like, I don't even think that's expensive for a dentist. No. Like, they wanted to do like deep cleaning on me, and they're like, and then it got to the point where like, if we don't do the deep cleaning, we're not doing any cleaning on you.

You have to have the deep cleaning. Then I went to a dental dentist. He's like, you don't even need a deep cleaning. Yeah. I mean, mind you, I don't have dental insurance. I don't either. Most people don't. It's some of my kids do, but I mean, either way, it's just such a ridiculous fight that was so long ago and the girls have moved on. But Pantheos really upset that Juliette M. didn't have her back. But I don't think necessarily Juliette M. didn't have her back. She just didn't want to get involved in it. I don't think it was that deep. Yeah. Then they're like, after a short break, they get into Juliette A. First joining the group. Yeah. Juliette says she's talked with Panthea how women shouldn't try to take down a marriage or a family like Amanda did to her. And then Karen is like shocked that Panthea would agree with this after what she said about her husband. She said he couldn't stand being around her. That's why he's gone all the time.

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, I mean, it's below the belt. That's for sure. It made it look like a hypocrite. Karen's husband, I think, has a job in Jersey. And by Jersey, we mean Jersey and London. London? Yeah. Apparently Karen was on the real house. So I was a Jersey, the one overseas, not the Jersey here. And then she was also on real housewives of Chessire. Yes, that's I met her when she was on that. So I thought when she talked about Jersey, I thought like she was visiting Jersey and like popped in with Theresa and Dolores. No, that's definitely not what happened. Well, we don't get those shows over here. So we don't know. Yeah. So we clarified it. We clarified it. We know. Then they talk about Karen's cryptic Instagram story. Karen sent a voice note to Panthea but then deleted it a minute later. Karen realized their friendship isn't deep enough yet. So she deleted it to be safe. She also said she deleted the story before the 24 hours was up.

Panthea calls Karen a jekyll and hide. This segment left me confused. Well, do you know what the voice note said? Yeah, I'm like, why does the voice note matter if we don't know what they can say? Why didn't they ask what it said? And is it wrong deleting a message after thinking about it or does it make it worse? Well, I mean, I don't really ever send back voice notes but there are times that I will sometimes send a text. And then I'll unsend it. I'm like, I don't need to send that. Like that was just like a jilt reaction. And like if I can unsend it, it means that the reader hasn't seen it. However, it does say somebody has unsend it. And so yeah, then you get the message, what did you unsend? Yeah, that what did you unsend? I'm like, oh, nothing. Missed text. Missed fire. Sorry, wrong person. And then they get on their computer. Then they get on their laptop. And sometimes the message is not unsent. It's still there. I've had that happen. I'm like, oh, okay. But I think just this entire segment had me confused.

Like I don't talk about a voice note and not say what it is. I think 40 shows one voice note about teeth. Why not show us another voice note? Why can't you just why couldn't Karen just said what the voice note said? Or she wasn't even asked, I don't think. Or she wasn't even asked what the Instagram post said. Well, wasn't the Instagram like just some cryptic message about trusting people or something. And we should have like a pantheon thing, but maybe it wasn't. And she said she did it in the hotel room where she had to sleep in the crevice. We didn't get down to the bottom of this whole package deal right there. We needed more information. Okay. So then after watching the season, Panthea admits to being hurtful and realized she needs to mallow out. I was proud of Panthea. I know, but she also says she's PNN. Panthea's news network. Which I loved. Which was hilarious. She's great. She had a podcast, but she's really thanks for writing rumors is her is news in London. And it's her job to do it.

I love when they're like, do you like gossip? And she's like, I love gossip when it doesn't hurt anybody. And then she's like, you're scared. Bitch by the fucker. I think she should get a podcast. She called PNN. PNN where she just delivers the London news. Yeah. But suddenly they think shift back to Amanda and Juliet. And Amanda feels like she didn't have her back this season. I didn't really agree with that. I thought I thought Juliet and was pretty Switzerland as well. You think so? I mean, at times she was. Like it made sense to me what Juliet A said. She goes, you know, I came in not knowing anyone. And you guys had all been together for five weeks or whatever it was before. And so yeah, I leaned on her a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. You know what, you know what cracked me up? I'm going to take it back a little bit to when Panthea was talking about rumors and all that stuff. And then Amanda jumps in and she goes.

Something about the daily mail said that I had the longest legs. And I'm like, enough. I go honestly, I'm officially voting Nessie as the longest leg girl in the cast just to piss Amanda off. And like who cares? Who cares? Like unless you're Maya Carrie and you're going to ensure your legs for a million dollars. Or you're joking. I want to fucking hear about her. J.Lo or whatever. What insurance on her ass? I don't know. It's just, it's enough. I mean, how many times do we have to hear about how beautiful you are, your legs, your CEO? Is a model for, like, we get it. Well, I do think that Juliet and, um, doesn't necessarily love Amanda. Like, well, but she's still saying she won't, you know, she mutually had their back, her back, the so and so and so. And so and so and so. And you know, it's just like, okay, the, the convert, the yelling between them was so bad.

I could not even understand what they were talking about. Yeah. No, it was so bad. And I think Amanda's a hard friend to have. Well, I think we see that in the second episode. But they went to, I guess I have forgotten completely about the tea because like, I don't, to me, a tea isn't super interesting. But like, they went to have tea. Yeah, they went, they were spilling the tea. They weren't spilling the tea. Okay. They went to have tea. That's when Amanda said to Juliet, you haven't been having my back. And that's kind of how it all started. But either way, it's neither here nor there. That was the first episode. There's a moment before anyone says it out loud. The room just feels different. I've been thinking about that lately. And for me, that's what pura is really about. Not just adding fragrance to a space, but shaping how room feels the second you walk into it. Pura is a smart home fragrance diffuser. But the smart part isn't really about the tech.

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The last thing I need is drama over what I'm feeding my dog. If you're reading labels for yourself, why aren't you reading them for your dog? That's why I feed rugby just food for dogs. Real human grade ingredients, I can actually recognize no mystery ingredients, no guessing, and rugby, he's obsessed. Do your dog a favor, go to justfoodfordogs.com and get 50% off your first order. We are getting to reunion part two. It starts where the reunion picks back up at Amanda and Juliette's heated fight. Amanda feels like her life has been scandalized by Juliette and her friends. Oh my god, here we go again. Because I'm beautiful, because I'm successful, I get a lot of attention when I walk in a room. Amanda, you're starting to look pathetic. Like Amanda, stop. Stop. You need to stop. You are beautiful. You probably are, you have a shit ton of money.

You have all these things. Why do you keep me didn't say it? We got it. She doesn't believe it is what I truly think. She kind of talks about it as we go on the reunion. But I feel like she's just so insecure and she's got so much trauma in her life for abandonment is something she brings up quite often. That she feels like she has to say that. I was married to a guy like that. Always had to pump himself up. And I think it's because they don't truly feel that. They don't feel like anybody thinks that. They don't feel like that. And they just want to. They figure if they say it enough times, people will believe it. But I also kind of couldn't believe that Amanda kept talking about the Daily Mail. Like I'm like, if you never talk to press, then why are you sitting here on this show talking about the Daily Mail repeatedly? Because the Daily Mail talked about her legs. Then we see a flashback to Pantheos softer side and a difficult relationship set of shaped her.

This I really resonated with. No, wait, the last scene is when she went off and said she tried to school the bitches on divorce, right? Yeah. Yeah, first scene. Yeah. That's, oh my God. And how divorce works. And then she goes, oh, and it's just a halfway split. And I'm like, I don't know in what world you live in, but that's not how it always works. No. I think the Amanda is just a difficult friend to have. And I think the Juliet did bond over her. Yeah, I agree. Kind of like trauma bonding. Trauma bonding. Then we see a flashback to Pantheos softer side and the difficult relationships set of shaped her. I think when Pantheot, this is where I really do feel like Pantheot is an honest person. She might be a pain in the ass. But she's so open about her first husband and she got approval to have his picture. How is that possible that he was like, you know what? Yeah, you can use my picture. I had four wives and 10 kids, but use my picture.

He probably had no idea what she was saying about him. Now he's like pissed off. Like, hey, can I use your picture for my show? Oh, this is my deadbeat accent. Yeah. And then they showed a picture of her when she was married and she looked like a baby. I mean, she looked even younger than you when you got married the first time. Yeah, she looked pretty young. Like, she looked... How did she say how old she was? I think she's a 19. Yeah, she looked really young. You're really married. I need Pantheot to stay exactly the way she is as long as she's on housewives. Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind. And I think that she's open about who she is. She's like, yeah, I love drama. We don't need a normal boring housewife. We need one that's unhinged like her that just says whatever she wants. She needs to continue to stay messy. And she acknowledges it. She's like, I get myself all hyped up and I get myself spiraling out of control when somebody tries to say that things are one way when they're another way.

And I think that's why she gets away with doing what she does because she admits it. Yeah. So it's like that takes all the air out of it. It takes all the piss out of it. Yeah, it takes all the piss out of it. Then Pantheot also talks about how she does not want her children growing up believing it is okay to cut people off and scream and shout the way she does. Yeah, it does. It's okay. I'm going to say it's okay. I mean, I don't think they're screaming yell and cut off bitches. I mean, on the show, it's fine. I hope this isn't happening in the day-to-day life. She's, Pantheot seems like she has a nice relationship with her husband. So I don't imagine they're screaming and yelling like that and gossiping. Right, right. I think that's something that she saves for the girls. But Amanda can't let it go that she keeps saying to Pantheot, you go to a girl's lunch three times a week. Who cares? Yeah. And then she's like, well, I had to go to my son's rugby thing on Wednesdays. And then on Thursdays, I'm like, stop.

Yeah, I mean, if she doesn't have to get a job, then more power to her. Go do those girls lunches. Go look at that gossip. Go for it girl. She doesn't need a job. Do whatever you want princess. And it's not even princess. It's like, do whatever you want. Why does it bother Amanda so much? Because Amanda, it's not like I truly feel like Amanda's worked her way up from, you know, bottom of the top. Right. No, no, I have a strong feeling Amanda is playing up her modeling career. Correct. She got her money from her ex. And the problem is, she just won't even admit it. Like, yeah, I was a model, but I wasn't like killing it. Yeah. And then even when she was talking about all the brands, the other couch was just like rolling their eyes like, okay, sure. When she was talking about the brands and then she was yelling at Juliette A. And she's like, what you did didn't even matter to me. It didn't even matter. And she's like, she had like all these pages printed out.

And she's like, what do you mean I posted for you? Oh, the posting. Yeah, the posting. I posted for you six times. Here's how many likes, 113,000 likes. And she's like, doesn't matter. There was not enough reshairs and nobody bought anything. And it's like, that's not how it works. If you sent me some Vina and I wanted, and I, I wanted to go out of the goodness of my heart, posted something about it. Like, you wouldn't, can't be on my ass about it. Or if you said, hey, Teddy, can you post Vina for me? Yeah. Well, not can Juliette down for asking for help for a post for skincare is beyond bullshit, beyond. And to go and say, like, first of all, I didn't ask you to post. My social media team asked me to ask you to post. You fucking asked her to post. And she, Juliette finally had to start pulling away from you because you kept asking her to do stuff for you. And now I realize that you're, you know, I'm sorry Amanda, you keep calling Juliette a husband and has been and doesn't matter

and all these different things. Yeah, you're not a beauty influencer. Then why are you asking her to post? Yeah. And she wasn't getting paid for it. She's doing her the kindness of her heart. When they are talking about this, it's like, do you know how often we get packages from other housewives? Like, remember when we got like the carousel from Angie Care? Yeah. You just, I got the passport from Bronwyn. Like, no matter what it is, I will always post. And be like, thank you for this. Or if I get a book, like when Lisa Marrana sent me her book. I just got a cookbook. Did you get one too? No, I have, I have, I haven't opened it. A cookbook for you. Somebody just sent me a cookbook yesterday. And I don't know who it was from. Oh, I have. And then, and the person that wrote it isn't familiar to me. So, maybe, I also got a, maybe it was Sophia. I also got a, um, a, a, a clit sucker vibrator. Someone sent it to you or you purchased it. They sent it to me. It doesn't work. Well, I talked about it on the show.

And the next thing I know, I got one sent to my house. Well, that worked out for you. I will. Yeah. Thank you. I just want to thank you for that. Yeah. I'll let you know how it goes. I know. Keep us posted. Keep us all apprised along with the brand name. Yeah. Okay. Then we cut to all the girls in Scotland. Amanda explained she told Pantheon to get a job because she felt that Pantheon had enough free time to cost up. So she could, I know we kind of just said this. Yeah. But she could put that time for toward working. I don't need to work. She doesn't have to work. She doesn't want to work. She doesn't have to. Maybe say get a hobby. Yeah. And what you're really fucking hate when people say get a hobby. But yes, I know. Get a different hobby other than gossiping. But she likes to gossip and that's her hobby. Yeah. Whatever. And then Amanda defends her own worth ethic, emphasizing that for the millionth time that she's an ex-model and CEO. Don't care. Tired of hearing it.

CEO of what is this skincare brand? I don't know. All I know is that when Katherine looked to her side and said to Juliet A. CEO. I was like, I died. I died. That was the best part. I died. Then Karen reflects losing her sister this season and how Scotland brought the women together. And then Juliet A and Amanda go back to their vulnerable moment in Scotland over the loss of their father. This is all that we have a moment of, you know, you're just we're hearing a story. And then Amanda says her father taught her to be hard and that's where don't fuck with me mentality comes from. Did she get in deeper during the season about her dad? Not that I know of. Yeah. So this is all we really. Yeah, we got it at the reunion. So I feel like that'll be a next season because they've already filmed next season. Remember. So yeah. I bet they probably get into that next season.

Maybe the girls take another break. Juliet M is overwhelmed after her fight. I didn't understand this. I didn't understand this. Was it that big of a fight that she had to? Well, I think she was worried. Did we miss something? No, I took me a minute to and I had to rewind. But essentially what she was crying about is because she knew she was already fighting with Amanda about not having her back. And the bill bill was going to come. And I think she just had anxiety about having to talk about the bill. I have mixed feelings about the bill. I'm actually like on Juliet A side about it. You know, the infamous Scotland bill gets brought back up when they go back out there. Everyone thinks Juliet should have paid the bill except for Juliet A. Now. Listen, we go on these trips. Everything is paid for. And if you were like in the middle of the night ordering tons of drinks and food and things like that, we normally have to pay for it.

Yeah. That's just how it works. We have talked about it over and over again. But then I thought what I thought was a little weird was when Pantheos says Juliet A specifically complained about being charged for a steaming fee. But then Juliet screams, come at me. Do you not believe me, truth teller? Because I think Juliet A was just saying this is weird. I didn't use a steamer. I don't think she was bitching about the bill. She was just like, well, getting charged for a steamer is a little stiff right there, I think. I know, but either way, the fact like, this is how, like, doesn't matter. This is how housewives trips work. They pay for everything except for... And look, let's get this straight. Juliet did not pay for that trip. No, at all. So she had the connection to get the discount. But either way, they get talking about the bill and the thing that I think Amanda's the most pissed about is that it said she had four margaritas.

I'm like, nobody cares Amanda. Nobody's accusing you of being an alcoholic. No one's saying you were drunk and crazy. Like, it is what it freaking is. Regardless if one of those margaritas was for each person in your room. You ordered four margaritas most likely. Like, it could have been split between the four of you, but that was all billed to your room. Or you just said, I got this round. Or you said something happened. By the way, Amanda, you're so rich, you should have paid for everybody's bill. How about that? Yeah, like, who cares? Then we finally get over this. And I don't really think there's... Everybody just agrees to kind of disagree here. The only one that really has Juliette Mayhouside is Juliette Angus, where she's just like, quit trying to turn this against me. I don't care. Well, they try to make something out of nothing. And that happens a lot of times on housewives all the time. You see it on our show right now. And it falls flat.

I'm like, okay, so they're mad at Juliette. I'm like, they're mad at Juliette, M, for bringing them to a castle. They were fine with Nessie, like, bringing them to her house and not letting her stay there and having... Right. Please. Right. And I'm sure the same thing happened there, because they stayed at a hotel there. Probably. Yeah, I'm sure they all put their credit card down for incidentals. Every production company is different, for sure. And this is not a bravo thing. This is a production thing. Production is given a budget. They create a show. They hand it over. They're the middleman. So they kind of cut budget. They can't shoot their wad in the first trip. Yeah. Then the conversation turns to Nessie being Switzerland. Nessie argues that Amanda and Juliette get so loud during fights that sometimes she literally cannot speak over them. I agree with her here. We can't hear them. We can't hear it. And can't hear it. Now, I like.

I personally like having a peacekeeper in the group. Heather DeBro has been the peacekeeper in our group for a very long time. And I feel like Nessie does speak her mind. It doesn't mean she has to take sides. But do you think Nessie needs to get more involved or she's good the way she is? I think that she will get involved more. But I think that like if I look overlook all these girls, I think Nessie is probably the class. She's the Heather DeBro of Orange County. She's very classy. She's very. She speaks well. She's just if she has to get involved, she will. She doesn't pick sides. She tries to be a mediator. But I think Juliette was correct. They were saying, you know, she'll talk both sides off of a ledge, which a little bit is Switzerland. Because then you kind of believe she's on your side and then she isn't. But here's what I do think. I think Nessie is going to get it from all sides next season. Do you think Nessie is messy? I don't think Nessie is going to have to get messy because these girls are like, look at us.

We're putting all this work in and you're over here playing Switzerland and we're pissed. Yeah, that does get annoying. But somebody said, I think it was Juliette said she's a double agent. So and then there was talk that maybe she talks behind people's backs and tries to get things going. And that kind of is true with that kind of personality. So it means like off camera, she talks about things. Yeah. And then on camera, she never brings them up. But one of the other girls does just because we all do that too. We all on the cast, we talk off camera and we say things. I mean, I was fine with Nessie just being there to sit in that dress. I thought she looked so stunning. And I think she had to have known she was on the end. Yes, where was she done in the middle with that dress? Yeah, there's no way she could have been in the middle with that dress. But I thought they all looked beautiful. Yeah, I like their color palette. I thought they all looked like all in all gold. I thought that Pantheon's dress was gorgeous. We found out it was 6,000 pounds.

I personally would never ever pay for $6,000 or more than that. Yeah. But I'll gown like that because I'll never wear it again. Ever. I would have rented it or borrowed it. For sure. I also want to know how uncomfortable Amanda's top was. I mean, we've seen a bunch of different housewives wear that top. Yeah. But normally it's like for on watch what happens live or some kind of short and out of time. But could you imagine sitting in that metal? No, I couldn't because I'm so short-waisted. It might have been easier for her because she is so tall. And her legs are so long. No, no. That would have been cut into my legs and a lot of uncomfortable. But did you notice the way Karen was sitting? She looked so uncomfortable. She was arching her back, which means it was like too tight on her back. Yeah, she was cramping. Yeah. Yeah, she was cramping. Unzip me, unzip me. Yeah. That's the worst. There's a moment before anyone says it out loud, the room just feels different.

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They strut back down memory lane, navigating life, love, loss, and everything that shaped them along the way. And as usual, someone just might break into song. From leather bars to bath houses, dance floors to drag brunch, nothing stays off limits. These are the kind of insights that can only come from experience. So listen to your elders, honey, and discover the silver linings you can take with you. All SaaS, Zero Filter, and Decades a Perspective from four friends proving that queer joy only gets better with age on the podcast that never gets old. Listen to Silver Linings, available on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from Podmeets World. When you have five and seven-year-old boys, I can promise you they love superheroes. Oh, it never goes away. Indie is 11 years old, and he's obsessed with comics, cartoons, video games, all of it. Adler and Keaton both have Spider-Man costumes, and if anything says Marvel on it, they are in.

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Do you think not responding to a text? Everybody can respond to a text. I mean, I get it like we get busy and sometimes for me, I'll get a text and I'll be on the pod right now. Then I'll get more text and then I'll get back to him. But I get back to him when I can. But just totally icing them out and not responding. Kind of not cool at all. I mean, Juliette M said she was busy. Juliette M looked shocked when she said it. Like she's right. Which makes me think was she trying to kind of build these relationships solely for the show. Well, I think that back to the text, you can respond to a text. Stop it. It's not that big of a deal. I think it's the problem is more of when we're done filming, we need a break from these girls. We're done. I don't want to see you. I don't want to talk to you for a while. We spend so much time three months straight. I'm together with these girls more than I'm with my husband.

I know, but I still think that there's some people that carry, I mean, I was one of them that carried on the friendship throughout film and whether it was filming or not. You're going, you know, like, so we talked just as much as we did when we were on the show. But I think that if all of a sudden someone's talking, like I would have found it odd if somebody was talking to me a lot. And then all of a sudden just stopped the day we were filming. I think that, like Heather and I will continue to text throughout the season. I'll get occasional texts and communication with Emily and Gina and a few of the others. But there are certain people that you're close to and you continue texting and calling. But not as often because they have us together for three months solid and it's a lot. Yeah, I mean, I think everybody needs to decompress after filming. So maybe that's what it was, but I don't feel like Juliette and somebody who decompresses.

I don't want to energize her money. I don't see her being like, I'm going to take some time for peace in me. I'm going to do a little. I don't remember her being like that in the beginning of the season. What? I don't know why. Like even when they got into that fight about was it the tea spirit as the first episode? She was really not so vocal about it. She's like, when we interviewed her, she is like the energizer bunny. Like she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I know it was hard for Juliette to get a word. I know, to get a word and she just sat there very patiently. Then we go back to Amanda versus Juliette. After having her own bad experience, Juliette realized she should have been more sympathetic toward Amanda was dealing with when it came to their mutual friends. You explained that to me because you said you went down like a little bit of a rabbit hole who this other friend is. What was the, why should she be sympathetic? What was happening? Well, I'm now I have been asked not to discuss this other friend.

Wait, what? Yes. Did the friend who, who I'm not going to say anything else, but I'm going to say I've been asked not to discuss this other friend because she's not on the show. Okay. So I'm not, if you paid attention to the last pod, you'll know who it is. I already said it. You're not going to dig that up. But yeah, so I've been asked not to talk about it. And I'm going to respect that person's privacy. So however, was there a fight between the two? I don't, I didn't realize that Juliette A had a fight with this person as well. And I don't know if she's saying she did or we don't even know who this person is, except for you, Doug, a person up. But I think she said that. Yes, she said that. That she got into it. She ended up getting into a fight with this person as well. Yeah, but then when Juliette calls out Amanda using her to post about value, she said she didn't make it dent cells. And then Amanda always gets so defensive. Like they're about to have a moment where you feel like it's okay.

And then she just fires out again. And you're like, hold on, but you were just making headway. I know we talked about this a little bit earlier, but it's just, I didn't ask you to post. My social media team asked me to ask you. Like she's just, she's full of shit. I'm sorry. I'm having a really hard time with this girl. Well, I think it also finally made sense to me when Juliette A said, no, what I realized, like I just pulled away from our friendship because it was too much for me. I could see that. And I have friends like that. Like I completely understand what she's saying. Like there are some people that just like come in and they're just like, they require a lot of your time and energy. And it's not that I don't love them or I don't care about them, but I have to like, put them in a box. Put them in a box. Yeah, I have to put them in a box. Compartmentalize. Compartmentalize. So I mean, then it's kind of like Amanda finally gets vulnerable and says Juliette dropped her like a hot potato. And I'm like, so now you're discrediting everything you said, this entire reunion.

Right. Exactly. She says like, we were never best friends and all this stuff. And then she's like, oh, she dropped me. And I'm like, which one is it? Yeah, because she's always going back and forth. And then she contradicts herself constantly. Yeah. Then Luzan Juliette A's friendship brought up a ban on men issues. I think that that's the root of her problem. Yeah, that's the root of her problem. If she's got some serious issues, it kind of broke my heart when she said, I watch all you girls go out and hang out and do things on Instagram and I'm never invited. Well, she says that, but in the breath before she's like, I am way too busy to hang out with all of these women. She needs, I mean, she needs to look deep within to realize why she's pushing people away. Yeah, she needs to put this wall down. She needs to not worry about if she's the richest, the prettiest, the whatever it is. Just just speak from your heart. Yeah. Then Amanda admits she purposely showed up an hour late to the one on one with Juliette A. Oh, she'll take some balls though.

That's a dick move. That's a dick move not only to Juliet, but also to production. I know. And she just doesn't seem like a great person. And she's like, yeah, I know I did it, but I wanted to prove a point. She's like next season, right? Yeah, I think everyone's back. The whole past? Yeah. So the women finally agreed to move forward with their friendship and they give each other a hug and everyone is happy about the reconciliation. Yeah, didn't we read that Amanda and Juliette are, did you say that last week? Did their friends know? I mean, I may be crazy, but I did see actual love between those two girls in that moment. At the reunion? Yeah. Was that what you were talking about? Yeah. But I don't know if their friends again now. I don't know. And she didn't seem like it. I didn't seem like it. I didn't seem like it when she was on the pod. No, it didn't. But it also didn't seem like Juliette and Juliette A were that kind of friends.

They were so kind of really tall. Well, you know what, grosses me out. What? When people put caviar in their wrist and eat it. Like it's cocaine? Yeah, like it's cocaine. It's like here you have this classy fish eggs, which I don't even like. And then you put it on your hand and lick it off. And then they're all double dipping act and like they have in the decades and like this fish egg is going to fill them right up. Oh, that was so yummy. All I wanted some salty fish in my mouth. And then I also wondered did Karen never discuss that she doesn't drink on camera? No, I was shocked too. They never bring somebody that doesn't drink an alcoholic beverage. Well, she had said earlier on the reunion, which shocked me. It was the first I heard about it. And I was like, she had a bottle of champagne brought to her room that she was charged for, but she doesn't drink. Yeah. And then she also turned down the champagne with the caviar. She's like, I don't drink, but I'll pretend in the moment. Yeah. But I don't know, either way.

And then that's a wrap of real housewives of London. That went by pretty fast. It went by pretty fast. What are your overall thoughts this season and what do you want for next season? I thought, I mean, I went into it and we went into it, watching it going new. We're not going to like this. Yeah. And it did grow on me. I think that now that we know the cast and it's now going on to their second season, I'm hoping it's a little bit more better. Yeah. I think so too. I think that now that we've gotten kind of a lay of the land, we understand what they're saying except when they're screaming over each other. I need to stop that. Yeah. But I'm ready to see Nessie get in the middle of it a little bit more. I'm ready to see Karen will be doing more things with the group. I feel like it was very centered towards, even though she was only on half the season,

I feel like it was very centered towards Juliette, Amanda and Juliette. Even Panty, I feel like got off easy. But I don't know. I'm excited for next season. Yeah. I'm just curious. We'll find out if it's going to air the same time on Bravo that it does on Haleo. I know. Somebody tell us, somebody leaked this information to us. Are they going to drop two episodes again? Because Juliette thinks so. I think they did that just to get through the season because season two is coming out. I'm really hoping my hopes for the show is that Andy does the reunion next year. I think him being more involved. I think them all still all coming to the States. Is Bravo Con back up next year, right? Yeah, a year from November. We'll see them all regardless. I'm sure they'll come to Bravo Con. Yeah. We'll see. I wonder if they're going to have the whole cast. Maybe just a couple. Who knows? Maybe a couple of stingers, but I don't know. I liked it.

They're growing on me. I do think they're a bunch of like beautiful women, but you know, they don't need to keep telling us that. We got it. Yeah. And kind of just go from there. And now I think they're hopefully going to stop having to talk about how much money they each have. Because like that gets very old. That gets old very fast. Very old. And if you notice, like people with real money, don't talk about money. No, they don't talk about money. Not at all. But I don't know. Thanks guys for tuning in to another episode of two teas in a pod. We're going to have two of the girls on later on. So make sure you tune into that podcast and I'll be recapping real housewives of Orange County later on this week with the Laura. So by the way, it is probably the best episode of the season. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. You asked for a little worst. You asked for a little activation with camera and you got it.

Just a little bit. I'm not wait to recap it. I couldn't handle it. I can't handle the quietness anymore. I was getting to me. I get my hands a little dirty. Well, good. I'm glad. I asked. Spanked. Woohoo. Yeah. Well, thanks guys. We appreciate you tuning in. Make sure you tune in. Make sure that you leave a review or comment or whatever you want. I'm never going to Instagram to tease in a pod. Yeah. All right. Bye, Tam. Bye. Bye. Bye. Your morning has a feeling before it has a plan. The bedroom still, the kitchen beginning to stir and somewhere between the air has already shifted. You choose this fragrance last night. Set it in motion to diffuse before you woke. That's pure. A modern sleek diffuser that works quietly, precisely controlled from your phone. A collection of beautiful, clean fragrances shaped exactly to your home. Choose your sense of place at pure.com.

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