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I'm the cool guy. That's, that's my bad.

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I'm a man. I'm sensitive.

I need to feel loved. I need to be desired.

Yelling is the only part of being a father that I enjoy.

Welcome to Dear Old Dance, the podcast that's judging you, judging me.

I'm Tom Curry. I'm joined as always by Thomas Smith and Eli Bosnick.

Hello, gentlemen.

I must have hit play on an old one because I'm hearing Tom.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, and Eli Bosnick.

Sometimes here.

I am sometimes always nearly here-ish.

I'm, I'm like adjacent to the band.

Listeners probably won't hear this for a couple of weeks,

but I was writing a list of betrayals.

The cast of citation needed has done against me.

And wait, what?

It was just part of my work.

The list of betrayals.

The citation needed cast has done against me.

And the one I listed for Tom was missing a bunch of shows.

So his wife could get plastic surgery on her head or something.

I don't know.

I wasn't paying attention.

But trails we have done against you.

I can't wait for that.

Hey, I have a, I have a funny thing that just happened today.

Like it's a, it's a guy thing for sure.

I think I've mentioned on the show that I have been supplementing testosterone

for a while.

By last 10 years or so, I supplement testosterone

through a doctor.

As we age, our testosterone levels naturally decline.

I don't want my testosterone levels to decline.

So I get these bioidentical pellets twice a year put in.

And that keeps my testosterone.

Put in, like put into your balls or what?

No, they put them into your skin.

So they're subcutaneous.

Sorry, I should have mentioned subcutaneous.

Like that's obvious.

So there's, yeah, no, there's tiny little pellets.

They're about the size of like a big grain of rice.

And depending on how, you know, how much testosterone

you're supplementing, they put these pellets in.

And then they dissolve in your body over time.

You're actually supposed to get them like every six months.

I have to get them like every three to four months

because I work out a lot.

So like you burn through them.

I burn through my testosterone too quickly.

You do, you actually burn through them a lot quicker.

It was never going to be, oh, I only have to do it every like other year or whatever.

It was always going to be whatever it is.

I have to do it every week.

The more active you are, the more they burn out.

I'm a little disappointed that the one bad science thing you haven't bought into

is the one that I'm doing GLP ones.

It feels lonely.

Of all the bad science, I have no interest in having

made testosterone drop as I age.

I'm almost 50 years old.

The acceptable clinical range is all the way down to 200 for my age.

Like you would feel like don't know what that means, though.

Do you know what that means?

Like I do.

Yeah.

So like there's an enormous range of like acceptable.

But you can go to a doctor and be like, hey, I, you know, would like to get that.

I got that.

How do you know that being on one end of that is bad or good?

He's met me because there's a ton of studies out there that actually show like

that this range is pretty widely agreed upon to be too fucking big.

And the thing too that like I think a lot of people don't understand or realize

because why would you is that when you go get lab tests,

those ranges of whether something is normal or not,

they're not the same from one lab to the next lab.

The lab itself actually tells you what the range is.

So if you go to like, what are the big nationals?

The big national lab companies are quest and lab core.

And you get a liver enzyme test like an ALT or AST liver enzyme test.

The values on there are not determined by the fucking liver society of fucking doctors or whatever.

It's determined by quest.

I'm not even kidding though.

So quest will have different normal lab values and lab ranges than lab core.

Yeah, isn't your doctor looking at it and saying your doctor looks to see generally

is it in the range?

But then like the range is oftentimes determined at least in part,

like there's differences between the labs.

So my point being that like, it's not as dialed in as you would expect.

Yeah, and I'm not trying to be rude, but my question is,

but why would you know that a specific place in that range is better?

Like you Tom.

Because there's a ton of studies on it.

Okay.

Yeah, that's what a ton of studies that like,

you feel generally many people, not everybody,

but many people will feel generally pretty shitty in that two to four 50 range.

But it may not flag as clinically sub.

Hmm, there's a name for it.

A hypogonatism.

So it won't flag for low testosterone.

My testosterone is so low that fucking me counts as gender, affirming care.

That's true.

I have no idea.

Which is all to get to my point that I've been,

I've been supplementing testosterone, not a lot.

But I've been supplementing testosterone for like a little over 10,

you're about 10 years, give or take a long time.

And I keep my love.

I monitor my blood and all this stuff a few times a year.

And I keep my my testosterone levels sleep.

Yeah.

That you could be this but not sleep.

Yes.

B-A-N-A-N-A-N-A-N-A.

No, but I'll tell you why I'll,

so but hang on a second.

So, I look and I'm like, all right, well, like if I was twenty

five, what would my testosterone be?

And I keep my testosterone at about that level, give or take.

So fluctuate to a little bit.

But that's the number that I shoot for.

So I'm not shooting for like bodybuilder, crazy bullshit,

but I'm trying to keep my testosterone.

Just a normal twenty five.

Younger age.

Yeah, man.

I don't want fucking 50.

How are you friends with a millionaire guy

who looks like Dana from Star Trek?

No, no, no, no.

Tell me I'm gonna live forever if I drink lemonade.

Or something.

How much of Finn's blood is in you right now?

You can't lie.

Yeah, you can't lie.

Some.

No.

And I do feel a lot better.

And like you're right, I don't sleep.

Like I don't sleep very much.

I sleep very much.

Now I'm like a little under four hours lately.

So I'm in a three, five, what a fancy lad

you've been lately.

I know.

If you sleep as little as I do,

your body will also...

Die?

Sure do so.

Die.

I mean, honestly, it will.

Like it doesn't, it's not good.

I'm not, I'm acknowledging fully.

It is not good.

I just love the idea of Tom going to the doctor,

having all this stuff dialed in.

He's like, yeah, I think my fucking

sometimes the levels are a little bit,

whatever, and he's got this chart and stuff.

And the doctor's like,

hey man, you're gonna just die from not sleeping.

Do that.

Eyes are bleeding.

Pass.

Pass.

We can inject something into my eyes, I'm sure.

My riboflavin levels are slightly.

If I say I'm testing your levels,

will you take a nap on this piece of paper?

Yeah.

I do, I put this in the form of like chemical,

that's like manly that you don't have enough of.

I might have the testosterone of a 25 year old.

You have the sleep schedule of a three month old?

Yeah, I do.

I do, it's bad.

But like if you don't sleep,

your testosterone levels will drop.

So I think I found, I know, I know.

I am solving the problem at the wrong end.

Like let me just say it out loud.

I'm solving the problem at the wrong end.

I know.

When I get you fired,

your testosterone's gonna be like a 19 year old

think about it.

You're great.

He's gonna be growing extra ball sacs,

like all of her body.

So I've got my annual physical coming up

in like a couple of days.

And my doctor's like,

hey, can I put an order in preparing yourself?

I can't stop up at home.

Just in the mirror, that'll kill you.

That will kill you.

Honey, will you tell me if this sounds like it

wouldn't make a change in you?

So I go to a different doctor for the testosterone

than I do with my GP.

My GP is not the guy who does it.

So I haven't had testosterone.

These are real problems.

These are real problems.

It's just not a specialty.

But like my GP has never run a testosterone panel

before.

It's just not part of my regular workup.

But as I get closer to 50,

he put it in the orders.

I noticed it when I got my blood drawn.

And I got my results back today.

And he sent me back a thing.

And he's like,

so you haven't disclosed it,

but you're clearly supplementing testosterone.

And we'll talk about that on your appointment on Wednesday.

Because the level is just it's higher

than you would expect for a 48-year-old man.

So it just made me laugh.

You saw a sexy lady walk by just now.

Oh, there's a pill in your leg.

Well, it's funny because I have a hard policy

that I never lie to my doctors.

I always disclose I never lie.

I just fucking didn't bring it up.

Like I don't know why.

I just never brought it up.

I do think I thought like he might not approve

and I don't want to tell him about it, you know?

But like I'm not getting it like from some dude

at Gold's Gym.

I feel weird about it,

but I do it anyway.

I totally agree with that policy.

But how does that apply?

I'm curious about this time.

I go to the dentist and they ask a lot of questions

for some reason.

They'll be like,

are you doing any medication?

And I'm just like,

I don't think you need to know that.

I think just scrub it up, Deb.

Just look at the old tape.

How dare you?

You know, like I don't think you need to know.

How dare you talk shit about the edible bones

urgent like that?

That is true.

I like dentists so much more

because dentists are just doctors who work

on exposed bones and everything they use

has to be edible.

And it can't even taste bad.

But they're always mad when I eat it, first thing.

When I come in and eat the tools right away,

they're always like, come on, man.

I was like, come on.

That's what we keep up in the plastic.

But why did you make it edible if I'm not supposed to eat it?

Do you guys have a dental phobia?

Is either one of you have a dental phobia at all?

Does anyone in your house have dental phobia?

Everybody in my house is afraid of everything.

No one in my house can do anything.

Except Arlo.

Arlo is fine.

Yeah, he's fine.

Arlo goes there on the way home from school every day.

He just...

Oh, boy.

Haley has a pretty severe dental phobia

because she had some bad experiences when she was a kid

having teeth removed with insufficient pain relief.

So I had my wisdom teeth removed

with insufficient pain relief.

That's a very unpleasant experience.

I also had zero out of 10.

Did you?

Yeah, my dad was poor.

He had like a friend who was a dentist

who retired like three months later to it.

And he was like, I could do it for like 20 bucks.

And no vacay only.

Raw dog's the same teeth out of the left side of my mouth.

And I was like, I know you're a big fan of your dad.

That sounds bad.

No, being poor was not his job.

Yeah, there were a lot of, I'm poor now.

So I'm making these choices moments

that have not made it to air.

And that is one of them.

Yeah, and then I got a real doctor for the second tube

with like a fountain in his office and gas

and I was like, oh, all right.

I better be funny on the internet.

My wisdom teeth, I, they came in when I was like 18 or 19.

I was broke as fuck.

And I went to the orthodont, whoever pulls them out,

the fucking oral max low facial surgery or whatever.

And they're like, yeah, you got a pull all four of them out

and you got some infection over on the one side

or whatever.

And I'm like, all right, well, how much is it gonna cost

and he's like, well, you know, this for the anesthesia,

this I'm like, well, let's, let's pair that back

a little bit.

We're not gonna do the anesthesia.

I don't have a thousand bucks or whatever.

And so we got it down to where I could afford it,

which is the same thing, just like Nova Cane and, you know,

that's it.

Gump should be like.

He did the one side.

I'm thinking Jesus Christ.

He did the one side and it was like uncomfortable,

but not the end of the world.

And then he did the other side.

I was like, I can feel that.

And he's like, no, you can't.

And I was like, I definitely can feel that.

He said, no, you can't.

Yes, he did.

And then he gave me another shot.

And then he came back in like a little while later,

he put the tool back there and I'm like,

Hey, man, I can really feel that.

And he's like, there's no way it's just pressure.

And he grabbed that fucking tooth and pulled it out.

I jumped out of the chair and screamed.

This guy put his hand on my chest,

pushed me back into the chair and said,

settle down there, champ.

And then he pulled out the other dude.

And I was like, like I was shaking.

I felt like I was gonna die.

Like I was like literally shaking in the chair.

Next week, that guy was arrested for impersonating

a fucking dentist in the middle of the way.

So then the nurse comes back.

I'm having a hard time.

Like I'm like literally pouring sweat and shaking.

And I'm just like, oh my God, what the fuck just happened?

The nurse comes back and says the dentist wanted to apologize.

You had a little more infection.

So the Nova Cane may have traveled along the line of infection

and not numbed you properly.

And I'm like, it's okay.

I gotta go now.

I'm like, I told you where all those nukes were.

I don't know.

It was fucking awful, man.

Yeah, I tell you about the time.

Oh, we got to take the first break, man.

We're gonna die.

Oh, yeah.

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I think I got dentist perverted one time. Now, I want to be clear. I want to be clear,

because there are other people who might have had similar medical experiences,

and I have nothing to add. Do you have to swallow or can you use the Mr. Thursday?

You're our way ahead of me. Oh, shit!

I want to point out that I think this is funny, and it's my sexuality, and you don't get to make

it a bummer at me. All right. So I go to my dentist. This is the old one that I had when I was a

college student living up in Spanish Harlem. Go to my dentist, and she was like, we got a new guy.

Do you mind if he works on you? And I was like, no problem at all. So the first thing he does is he

sits down about you guys. I've never been in my life since or before has a dentist sat down and

sort of gotten at my level while working. They have always stood. They're walking back and forth.

They got tools going on. No one's ever made themselves comfortable. He sits down and the first

thing he does is put his hands on my forehead and gently pets my head at standard dental.

While we are talking. So he's like, all right, and do you floss? And I'm just, it's just like,

pat, pat, pat. And I'm like, huh, I guess, because I'm in drama school at the time. So I'm doing a lot

of touching that I'll only recognize is not appropriate until later. And I'm like, huh, well, you know,

maybe he's just sort of trying to call me out. Yeah. And so he does the dental cleaning. And

several times throughout the dental cleaning, he makes like incredibly inappropriate comments like,

I don't know how you get away with having a beautiful mouth like this in the village. And I was like,

so I go back six months later, however, and I was like, hey, whatever happened to that guy,

because I'm like, I've done that thing. I don't know if you've had this. You have a bad experience

that when you're a grown-up, you're going to realize with bad experience, but you're still a young

person. And so you just want to talk to that person to clear up. You want to be like, hey, when you

hit me with your car, the wheels hurt. Like, you tell me this. And I was like, where's dental guy?

And she was like, oh, we got rid of him. He was very inappropriate with the patients. And I was like,

he was? Yes. No, I don't even really want to talk about it. And I was like, I mean, either

so wait a minute. No more feelings in a happy ending. No more feelings in a happy end. Well,

you know, he was, I thought it was just a different form of filling. Everyone. Everybody leaves

with a smile. Exactly. Yeah, great. I never had to tip the dentist before, just the tip, but

yeah, that's fine. All right. So speaking of, uh, is it morally acceptable? Yeah.

Tip your dentist. I don't know. Let's, let's transfer it. So there was a Pew Research poll came

out recently. We want to talk through some of this stuff. Pew Research poll Americans are split

on whether or not a variety of things are considered acceptable morally. Republicans and Democrats

differ sharply. No shock there on abortion, homosexuality and the death penalty, whether these

things are morally wrong. I think it'll be fun to go through this list. Yes. And get some bears.

Let's see how many bears we can find. We are. Yeah. So I don't think we're going to be as far

apart on these as, as you might say that. I think it's just fucking insane. I want, so I think I

sent this, right? Because you did. Yeah. I just couldn't, it sort of explained like everything

wrong with our entire society where you're just like, oh, this is what people care about. Like,

this is what people are worried about. Like, that's why we're here. Yeah. Okay. So if that's the,

if that's the attack you want to take, then I'm fucking there with you because I looked at this and

I'm like, most of these aren't even things we should say. You shouldn't even be asking a question

about it. Yeah. Like, this is just, it's so nothing burger bullshit. Yeah. As far as I'm concerned,

that you're just like, all right. And like, there's things on here that I'm like, yeah,

I would tell there's one thing in particular on here that is very bad. That's one of the lowest

on the list that nobody cares about or sorry, not many people care about. It's, it's just our

priorities are all wrong. I can't wait to talk about it. They're so mystifying. And I feel like

whoever made this chart on the first page of the Pew Research feels the way we did. They didn't

have to order this chart from least crazy opinion to most crazy opinion at somehow. They managed

to do it. All right. So let's, let's start at their top. And this is where there's, they

think, the greatest consensus. I think this chart is, is it greatest consensus? Yeah, there's

a couple of different. Which one will start with? I'm trying to think. I think the, um,

race can say, well, that's, I don't know if that's great. It's consensus between, well,

sorry, consensus between, there's Republicans and Democrats or I think the top chart is looking

as American smushed together. Yeah. The top chart is what I'm talking about. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

If you guys are both American smushed together. All right. So let's, let's go through these. So

percentage of people who say each of the following is morally wrong versus morally acceptable.

It starts at the top 90% of people 90% married people having an affair. 90% of people say that

is morally wrong. Seven percent say it's morally acceptable or not a moral issue and total

of not morally wrong is 9%. How is that not a moral issue? Like that's the, that's the funniest

category to me. Who are you asking? The seven percent, which is not like tiny. They're like,

well, it's not a moral issue. That's what a fucking economic issue. What is it?

The calendar issue. It's a scheduling issue. Yeah. I actually, I would say that that is not a

moral issue. Having an affair. That would actually be my, yeah. That's, yeah. Okay. What is a moral issue?

Well, here's, here's, I'm having an affair. Yeah. The reasons why people have affairs are far

more complicated. And if you just sort of like lump it all into the action itself without considering

any of the context around it, then like it's not even really an interesting. If you haven't set

anything interesting, I think it is one of those things that is very often, mostly, almost always

wrong to do. But I absolutely can see circumstances where it's like, yeah, all right. It's at the very

least ambiguous, sometimes maybe even not ambiguous. I'm not sure that doesn't make it a moral issue,

though. I feel like that's just you saying that there's different, I think I agree that there's

like different reasons people might do it. But like it, I mean, I'm not a big like moral sky,

I guess. But like that's one thing that's at least, he said over all of it. Yeah.

So I guess when I thought about this one, I thought like, yeah, generally speaking, I would say

that it is morally wrong to have an affair. Like that is as a general, yeah. Generally, yeah,

I would. I would be like, yeah, you made a fucking promise. And then you decided not to do the

thing you promised. I think that's a problem. But like I know that there are plenty of circumstances

where I'm like, yeah, I mean, that sucks. That was a weird situation you were in. Like your

fucking marriage was bad. Who am I to judge? I think that still makes it a moral issue in my book,

I guess. I think that's still. But then I don't know how to answer the question is where I get stuck.

Well, that's why I'm so confused because like if someone asked me morally wrong having a

fair versus not, I would say, yeah, it's morally wrong to have an affair. I think that's why we're

all on board there. I don't know who would say it's not a moral issue. Maybe I'm not understanding.

But what I think is funny is that is the thing that everybody's in line on. Like that's the most

thing that everybody agrees on. And it's the thing that like I feel like what percentage of people

are doing that everybody. I feel like everybody but Tom is having an affair right now. It's a pretty

high number. So it's kind of interesting to have something that it's so many people. It's a crazy

high number when you count the people who admit to it. Yeah. That alone the people. Think about

all the people who aren't well, well, thank you girl at the mall next to Aunt Annie's pretzels.

Well, yes, I am cheating on my wife and the mother. I think about how high that number is versus

the people who the who she comes back from Annie's pretzels a little too quick for them to say yes.

Everybody is cheating on their spouse. And yes, only me and Eli have like, well, maybe if there's

a thing that everybody thinks is wrong and yet everybody still does, maybe there are some other

solution needs to be in place. Now, can I say something brave? Gentleman, in my experience,

when men have an affair, 99% of the time, it's wrong. It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm not proud of it.

But the chemo made her throw up all the time and her breath was really mad. So I

and drag me Houston to get the fucking thing. Yeah, you get it. Yeah, we just heard Tom

before the recording turned on. I would say a solid 50% of the time, the women in my life

have had an affair and it counts. This is Eli tempering his opinion. This is me tempering my hot

tail. But I'm saying 50% of the time and I'm not counting the poly weirdos. I'm not counting.

Yeah, well, our mutual agreement was that I would no longer put my toes into the hot tub

when Chris Santamum was in there or whatever the fuck. I'm talking about the people who were

normies had normal marriages. I'm saying 50% of the women who cheated. It was like, well,

you know, he had stopped hitting me at Christmas. And that was, you know, when I had escaped

with the kids, I met someone at the battered women's shelter and we held hands before he died by

cop. I don't know. So I don't know. I've always felt like a chewed piece of gum since

I don't know about that. I don't know. Like if they had genuinely separated this question for me

into is it morally wrong for a woman to have an affair or is it morally wrong for a man to have

an affair? But I'm not that such different answers for the girl at Annie's pretzels. Yeah,

I don't know. I definitely agree with that. It's just some degree. I don't agree. But speaking

of a thing that everybody is doing that we're still somehow pretending we're not, that brings us

to next on the list, something that 52% of Americans agree to be morally wrong, viewing pornography.

There's a long pause. Are you expecting me to film that? No, sorry. I was actually

I was realizing, okay, I want to provide the Republican Democrats.

No, I think I want to also, I'm going to correlate here whatever with the

compared to the Republican Democrats split. That last one, many people having an affair.

Republicans 93 Democrats 88. So like that's again, just pretty universal. Now the pornography one,

Republican 65 Democrats 39. Still really high for Democrats. Like, well, it's crazy. So I'll take

this one on. So I think that in a vacuum, there's nothing wrong with porn. That's some of my favorite

stuff. Oh, that's the best. When she's stuck in a vacuum. The positions they could do in space.

It's actually nothing to push off of. It's very difficult to get it. What's hard? I was doing

the vacuum attachment thing. But I will say personally, I think that the pornography industry

is so problematic that I actually don't think that you can functionally view pornography

in a moral way. Yeah, it's so outdated. Is there a pornography industry? It's just only fans

people who are like, dear God, please look at my naked body. I want so badly for you to look at

it's like everybody's only fans now.

Personally, like, I think that you've got such a high bar to cross with pornography

to feel really assured that the person is acting completely without coercion and of their own

free will that like, I'm not sure how you cross that bar. Well, because even if they are,

right, but their company is not at one point, you know, and we've talked about this before,

right? How many drops of sexual assaults are allowed in your swimming pool of pornography?

Before it taints the whole thing. Now, Tom's a crazy person. So he says, one, yeah, but I think

it's funny to recognize the cognitive dissonance in myself, branding, because in my head, the excuse

I make up for myself is, oh, well, when I say viewing pornography, I mean the most ethical version

of it, but I don't do that when I get down to the bottom of this when it comes to eating meat,

right? Like when someone says, is it moral to eat meat? I'm not picturing like that guy in

Japan who has the farm where he spoils the cows. And then when they die of natural cause,

they're going to make a fool farm because that's the truth of it. Right. Exactly. So I think the thing

that's really interesting to me about this question is whether people were answering, because this

is why I think the number among Democrats is so high, whether people were answering about what's

getting made in Florida right now, or just, oh, no, what's getting answered is, is it wrong for

me to watch naked people? It has none of what you guys are talking about. Has any bearing on

this question in the average Americans mind? Like they're not answering, well, I think it's wrong

because the poor, I think they're thinking of, although they're thinking of the Lord says I

shouldn't be viewing naked people. That's what they're fucking thing. That's what 98% of these people

are. I'm sure most people have a religious objection to it. Yeah. Certainly. There's no chance

to admit people are. Did she say that's what I am? Yeah. I am a one drop spoils the whole thing,

especially with something that is so wildly innocent, especially with blood and racism. He says

that all the time. No, no, no, like to use your analogy before for something that is just so wildly

inessential. I think that it is entirely reasonable to say, hey, this is inessential. So I should

have a zero tolerance policy around sexual assault. Yeah, you know, the thing all humans do is

literally the most popular thing that they say. I was just about to say I've never been more

offended than when I called porn inessential. There was a monolith world oil on papers. There

was a world before porn. That was just bad. There wasn't. It's insane. I wasn't that you can't. I've

seen the cave etchings. Okay. The guy with a big wing, which is if I lived in the cave. Born in

the way that everybody. First thing I just did to imagine if we redefined it into absurdity.

You got it. All right. Having an abortion, 47% morally wrong. That is a higher number than I would

have thought. It's crazy. 47% morally wrong. That's I think everybody should get at least once.

Yeah. I'm just like everybody should just get one. Whether you want it or not. So I'm on the chart

that's now this one sorted by biggest split. I think between Republican to Democrats. I'm actually

seeing there's one where it flips low. So I guess it's not the biggest net split. But this one

is 71 Republican, 24 Democrat. That's about actually the Republicans a little low. I would have

guessed the Republican was like, I'm a little surprised. I'm a fucker. You're Republican. If you're

what is just 24 people. I don't want to pay taxes. So I guess I'll vote over here. 24%.

24% of Democrats still have an issue with abortion. That is

acidity. I can't believe 47% almost half. What's crazy to me personally about that is how revealing

that is about the bubble that I live in. Because I don't know anybody at all in person. That is part

of my life that has an issue with abortion. I don't know anybody. So I remember having a conversation

with a girl at the state I worked with who was like, I think there's a lot of people who have

this impression that like, well, people just do it for contraception. And they just do it for

fine. I think it's a stereotype or something that they that has really maybe it's sort of like

almost like the welfare queen thing. Like I think that kind of infected a lot of people where they

think, well, well, there's these like, you know, there's these people. I'm not going to say these.

So I believe the lives they've been told. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's more common than

than maybe I would have thought like it because this person was like pretty reasonable otherwise.

She wasn't like a Republican. But even then, right? When you can see that, right? When you do the

sort of like, well, some people are just doing it for, you know, for fucking kicks and giggles.

Because they because they like the free minutes. I don't care if it's somebody's kink. I don't

give a shit while you do it. Doesn't that imply that those people secretly believe that you're

killing a baby? They just think you should be able to kill a baby if it's a big enough inconvenience?

Well, I think a lot of people, I think that is true though.

I think the philosophers would tell you it is that actually that you should be able to get a

fucking violinist attached to you. You should be able to kill that sucker. They play the stupid

violinist going down Peter Singer road. That's way broader than that. That's way more than Peter

Singer. But he invented it. He invented the violinist. No, it's what's her name. It's my wife.

Yeah, my wife. Well, not violinist. It was out against been a long time since I've

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39% of Americans think homosexuality is wrong. Morally wrong. Yeah. That's 40 people in a room

of a hundred. Yep. Here's what I want. I want to see this same poll taken 10 years ago.

And I feel like this is sharply drifted, sharply drifted. Oh, it must have.

It's actually something that I've, you know, it's important because the percentage viewing

homosexuality, well, I don't know if it's gay marriage. It might be gay marriage specifically,

but the percentage was getting better and better. Like people were more and more cool with it

since the decision. When was it? 2010? Yeah, I can't remember now. But then until about 2019 or so

and then internet fucking fascism took over. And now it's getting worse. So like more people have

a problem with gay people. Like it's the fucking progress that was being made stopped and turned

around because we live in an awful fucking world. He managed to turn around fucking gay rights.

And that's driven by Trump. I don't even think that's driven by, it's driven by the movement

that's leading to Trump. I think it's more fundamental. He doesn't give a shit. No, he does not give a

shit. But it is the right because if you voted for Trump, you now have to be part of the media

universe that also tells you homosexuality. Yeah, that's why I think that's more fundamental.

I think it's more like underlying it is that. And it's depressing. But I got a question for you.

If you haven't looked, what do you think the Republican Democrat split is on this? If you haven't

looked 90, 10. What do you think, Tom? 75, 25, 59, 20. What? What? So when you look at that,

having an abortion number, now it's like, okay, well, if 20% of Democrats, I don't know, man,

what are you voting for? Honestly, why are you on your side on our side? I guess I'm glad

you're there, but like, yeah, I don't know if you've seen our agendas lately, but they do not

match up to you. That one's just plain weird. I mean, I could see, I could see even the answering

having an abortion is morally wrong. If you were like, yeah, but you still should be able to do it

because you have the, you know, like, I could, I could even see people being like that. But I could,

there's no argument for homosexuality being morally wrong. It's literally nothing. I feel like

a call back to the like having an affair, like, yeah, I would only care of somebody like genuinely,

like to somebody else has an affair, like I don't care. I don't think they're a morally bad

preeven though like I would fall on the, I guess that's a morally wrong thing to do. I don't care

if somebody does it that's not to me, right? If somebody hurts me, I care. If somebody does hurt

somebody else, I'm like, well, that wasn't my agreement. Sorry, he didn't break it, but like,

we're still friends. Like, I'm not like not friends with you anymore because you broken

agreement with somebody else. The idea that somebody is fucking somebody else and you're like, well,

I think you, you're using the wrong jet. Like what the fuck is wrong? Who gives a shit? Why is

this any of your business at all? It's crazy. Like the pornography, I have a stance on pornography

because I worry about the harms of it. But when there's no harms to worry, my stuff, he's like,

please stop. I can see the harms in it. I can see them. They're evident. I didn't know the glass

was going to break, Tom. All right, this one, patient ending their life with the help of a doctor,

Euthanasium, genuinely curious. What do the people who are against this think is happening?

Yeah. What's the number? Sorry, did you say the number? So the 35% of people believe that's

morally wrong. So more people are down with this by a little bit than homosexuality or abortion

or pornography, which all that's weird to me. Yeah. That's fucking weird because I can see

my position is entirely unmoved by the argument. But I have right arguments that are like,

hey, you know, like there are people who, if the system were not really robust and well regulated,

could be pushed into a position where they're killing themselves. Now this is like the same

with pornography, which I think is interesting. I don't know if this is like a criticism necessarily.

But I do think it's interesting that you tend to jump to jump to jump to like the systemic,

like when you look at the question, I think you tend to be answering, is it morally just to have

a system in which people can do X thing? Yeah, I guess I understand how else this is.

Oh, because I think the questions are very much meant for it. I think the majority of people

take them as for you, Tom. Would you view it like viewing pornography? Not like do I want to live

in a society that that's what I think. Maybe I'm wrong. You tell me if I'm wrong, Eli, try

I'm in, but I think that's that tends to be like, would you judge someone? Well, then the abortion

people are lying because the abortion people like 47 out of 100. No, because like the fucking

abortion people, like I know people, they're just like, well, I fucking have them, but they're wrong.

You can't have one. You know, we saw that when they struck down row, every single fucking old

Republican lady was and I don't want to put it on, you know, ladies more than men, but like they

were the ones who were like, oh, wait, but I did that. They all had an abortion. They're like,

I want it to be a Congresswoman. I literally was talking to it. There's there's only like one

Republican person in my life that I know is a guy is a subcontractor that works for me. He

talks to me about this shit now and again. And I remember sitting there with him and he's like,

well, you know, like when Melissa and I were, he's an older guy. He's like, when Melissa and I were

younger, we were pro choice, but now that we've gotten a little older, you know, now we've come to

realize, and I'm like, Bob, so when it was a threat to you and something you would have to

contend with, then you had a view that preserved your rights. And now that it's something you don't

have to deal with, now you have a view that is different than that. And he sort of was like,

yeah, I guess so. He's like, also, when I wasn't making money, I believed in equality. But now

that I'm making money, fuck, fuck the poor. It was like, it was one of those things. It was like,

you set it out loud. Yeah. Like what the shit? So I think most people would be answering in the

form of like, if you did or if someone you knew, did it, would you like be judgmental of them? I

don't think it, I don't think most people think, maybe I'm wrong. I certainly with Republicans. I

know Republicans don't give a shit. They just are like, no, it's the Lord says, no, on the game.

So I'm just thinking too broadly. Yeah. I think I do think so. I think I think that you like,

I don't know. That's my, that's my feeling. But I could be wrong. No, I think that for the majority

of Americans, us not included moral questions are ones about personal choice and personal

consequence or like think about religious people. I think for most people, because how,

what percentage of people believe it got like in fucking 90 or so, I think for most people,

this question is, do you think God would be mad at you for doing this? I actually think that's

pretty much what people are thinking. Right. Yeah. Match that in their head. Yeah. Yeah.

And so I'll try on this one. Well, no, it's so interesting. Now, I think John would be

mad if I became homosexual because I would ruin their numbers. God's are his, those,

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mad at me if I became homosexual. They'd be like, dude, we don't need you. We're not, you know,

I don't know about mad, but indifferent. I think I would get a lot of indifference. You know,

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All right, the death penalty. 34% view this as morally wrong.

Sure, I'm glad more people think viewing pornography is wrong than the death penalty.

Sure, I'm glad that we live in a society where more people are worried about that than the state.

I'm not trying to push too hard on your observation from before,

but I genuinely don't know how to think about the death penalty outside of an institution.

Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point, man.

I don't know what to do. Thoughts. Why? I guess like I don't want to be death penalty.

I'll bring it back to me. I don't want to be death penalty.

You know, I will acknowledge that one is the one where it is really hard to separate.

That's a good point. I think a lot of the arguments to

are around the system, whereas I don't think for like, you know, for fucking homosexuality,

that's not the argument. Like nobody's thinking in terms of like that.

It's honestly, it's the way that homosexuality is enacted.

Yeah, it's the homosexual industrial complex that we can all agree that there are a couple

guys out there who are allowed to be gay. We're not talking about that. We're talking about

an imperfect system. We're talking about industry of gay people. What if someone accidentally

turns gay? Oh, God, but that's what they do say about trans people. Oh my God. That wasn't

even a joke when it comes to that. Because I'll say like all of my all of my objections to the

death penalty are institutional. Like I don't have like a moral objection to like if somebody did

a whole thing and they killed them like that. Yeah, I used to think that 100%. But I just don't

believe in the 100%. So I'm anti, you know, I actually think I'm with you mostly, but I'm not

sure. I think I've recently I've maybe I also think that nobody really has the right to do that.

Like I think there are people who probably deserve to be killed, but I don't think anyone has the

right to kill anyone. Right. You know, I think I think that's an interesting point of

dissection is like I agree with that. And to me, that's an institutional issue because then it's

like, okay, well, who's doing this? I think I'm saying, I think I'm saying I thought it was an

institutional thing until I realized that no matter how this institution were set up, I don't think

I would agree. So like even in the idea of like the magic solution, like the magic pill or the

magic, like those magic institutions that gets everything 100% of the time right. Yeah, it's more like

I just don't think other humans should have. I mean, maybe, okay, maybe if you come up with a

with a hypothetical where it's literally they're always guilty and they're the worst like child

murders, then I think maybe I'd be with you. Yeah, so maybe and it would be it would be way

narrowed. But I agree with you that it's hard to answer this one in a vacuum without the institution

because it matters what people are being killed for. It's like all they're being convicted. Yeah,

like I could write if the question is, is there a person you could conceive of that probably

deserves to be shot? Yes. Yeah, like if if because I'm on a personal level, like if somebody

broke into my house and they killed everybody in my house that I love, right? And they left

their ID and they left some DNA and they said, hi, my name is Frank. Frank. And like, and I have

I have their face on my right hand card. If you need any other of your family's killed and they

confessed and they had it on, you know, like so, okay, so they had every piece of evidence, like

me personally, would I want to see them dead? Yeah, 100%. Do I want the state to do it? No,

I can't trust the state institutionally, but does Tom Curry the person? Yeah, I'd like I'd like

to do it myself. Well, and thank you, Tom, you used to about to bring up my point. And I know

I've said this on the air before, but I think we are missing a major opportunity with the death

penalty right now, right? Because right now we have this. Yeah, it's all time. We have

ways to money, giant ways to time, innocent people die all the time. And then when we finally get

one right, remember that guy who killed the college students, like snuck into their house while

they were asleep and murdered. That guy, like that's when we got to let the families get involved.

The only reason we're having a death penalty is because of our perverted sense of justice,

right? Which we're already wrong about. So why are we not doing it fun? We're doing the least

fun version. That sister who was like, if she'd been awake, she would have kicked her out,

give her a big spiky mace and let her do it. What? Oh, because that would be morally wrong. No,

we're already wrong. Let's get to the rock Johnson as a guest executioner to hit him with a flamethrower

when everyone else is done. I don't understand why we're not going full lady V. If we as a society

are going to have the Coliseum, why did we make it boring? Why are we feeding people to the lions

one bite at a time behind a plaid curtain? Do you know what I'm saying? All right, what about gambling?

29%. 29% more like yours. You know what I mean? Like, that's how is that close to these other

ones? You know, see, because here's the interesting thing, the people who are doing most of the gambling

shouldn't be doing it. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not because it's morally wrong. I don't think it's

morally wrong. It's just bad for legal. Yeah. It's like this. Would you answer is smoking morally wrong?

I'd be like, right. Exactly. Not really, but it's you shouldn't do it. Like gambling is like

smoking probably. I'm right there with you. Like, I don't think it's anything morally wrong with

gambling. I 100% think it should be illegal though. So if somebody answers that's not a moral question

to gambling, actually, I'm with them on that. That's like, actually, oh, actually, there is

quite a few. Okay, 50% of people, I guess that's not a moral question. I agree. Okay. I like that.

I'm right there with them. All right. But when you look at the numbers compared to what is next on

the list? Zero time. And, Lister, you'll find out what's next on the list, but you've got to

wait a week. In the meantime, before we go, the other day my wife asked me, why do you always

walk in front of me? And I said, I'm sorry. I don't follow you. Oh, my God.

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