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Czabe welcomes ARMEN SARYAN to talk about ref fatigue in college hoops, and the ejection of Bill Self with a brilliant game ops "kiss" on his way out. Czabe also give an eye-popping stat about "Senior Night" in college hoops, and an abject lesson in how sports can (and should) teach you about life. Czabe needs a bed on Wednesday night in Vegas. A $48 ATM surcharge? Joe Lunardi bodybags Bruce Pearl. MORE.....
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Just because the NFL season is now firmly in the rearview mirror does not mean the petting season is oh There is still plenty of opportunities to put a little something something on the games No matter what tickles your fancy. There is still plenty of action to wet your appetite But just remember where you bet is every bit is important if not more so than what you're betting on That's why I tell my friends to go to my bookie dot A. G My bookie has been ahead of the game for years now and why does that matter? Oh, I don't know in a million ways better lines better payouts less rules at my bookie dot A. G Use promo code Zave and have your deposit matched halfway up to a thousand dollars That's a free cash bonus for making your deposit use promo code Z to claim the offer bet win and most importantly get paid with my bookie today This is the Zavecast hosted by a pop tart love and kid from the mean streets of McLean, Virginia
And since you probably have other more important podcasts to waste your time on screw those air pods in tight and let's go Oh Thursday May 5, 2026 it is Thursday already the great arm and sorry and we'll join us today Here on the Zavecast as we are in the month of March and senior nights across the country are happening on the college basketball landscape
I came across a stat. I won't even dignify with the wind up of start of the day Because it's cut us sobering Do you know how many seniors were honored this week in the S E C? Why the mighty southeastern conference Of the S E C honoring seniors who had been with the program their entire career and we're now out of allege eligibility Take a guess how many seniors in the southeastern conference across the board all the teams All the players how many had done the full run from freshman to senior to that's it Good luck in life. It was great having you The answer is one i kid you not one senior Fit that criteria nation wide according to somebody who did the legwork on this and the research
There's only 22 In the power for conferences now. This is not counting the conferences and the leagues below power four But of the power for conferences only 22 players Had completed that journey This is an absolute disaster and an indictment on the game that has become really a transfer portal N I L money money money money money money money hellscape And I don't think j billis gives a shit about it or if he does he ain't saying Because all he has been doing is banging the drum gotta pay these players gotta pay these players. It's a multi-billion dollar industry. Well Now look what's happening At the same time Louisville Made their books public And said look we're we're gonna crash financially we're gonna crash We cannot sustain this and they laid it all out in a very long
Sort of report that said we're spending this much on so and so we're losing this much We're losing this much we've we've drawn down what had been like a 34 million dollar reserve Down to about three million dollars and just a couple of years Not sustainable Also, there are programs being cut left and right across the country to try to save pennies here save pennies there to feed The beast to feed the monster that cannot be slayed And before you scream. That's the engine AA. They're like a leadership They lose in court all the time and the way the judges have ruled on antitrust law The NCAA is not just their hands are not just tied They are hog tied and shackled right now. They can't do anything To put this toothpaste back in the tube Because you see the format Was the product in so many ways in college basketball think about it like this the format of the sport was as follows
School A recruits high school stand out xyz They sign with the school It is hard for them to leave Because you have to sit out a full year So transfers while they happen were relatively minimal Player then fights his way through playing time injuries coaching changes Ups and downs they grind their way through it hopefully stick with it And at the end of that journey they become a senior and they get honored on senior night And then they're better equipped to deal with something called life because only a tiny percentage of power for D1 Excuse me basketball players will go on to play in the NBA And being prepared for life is something that is worth far more than whatever NIL You're gonna scoop up now your agent is gonna take a huge cut of your friends and family are gonna start going
Me me me me me grabbing at it and you're gonna let's be honest blow it on some shit You're gonna be like Steve Martin in his stand-up routine saying yeah, I got rich once and I bought first sinks and electric dog polishes Then after a pause he said and I wasted some of that money too So This is the landscape we're currently navigating one high school Drafted or one high school recruited senior that lasted the whole program through in the SEC Of course, it's not just the men the women's side is almost as messed up. It's just nobody's really paying attention for example I had no idea that Tennessee And their vaunted women's program that Pat summit built into a monster Was weezing so badly had no idea. I don't really follow the women's game Well, not only are they weezing badly, but this story caught my attention on ESPN.com
Kaya win leaves lady vols says senior day Quote breaking point. I'm like what? Breaking point what happens? What happened did they did they do something really horrible tour On senior night. Did they really embarrass her somehow So I dug into the story this one written by line by Michael Vopel So it's an actual human being not a bot not AI He writes Kaya win a reserve guard on the women's basketball program at Tennessee said Tuesday She's leaving the program calling what she felt was a slight on senior day over the weekend The breaking point quote unquote The vols lost their regular season finale sunday to Vanderbilt 87 to 77 At Thompson bowling arena massive by the way arena It's larger than rupt for a reason when they built it. They're like how many seats does rupt have yeah, let's add a hundred more
And by the way, they used to pack that for the women When herself did not play in the game she appeared in just nine games this year after missing all of 2024 2025 because of an Achilles injury The Tennessee native had spent five years of the program. Okay. I'm gonna guess that she was even with a fully intact Achilles Still just a backup guard and coming off that injury. I'm gonna guess she was even less effective So it's not surprising that she only got to play nine games Miswin went to social media to air her grievance. Oh boy. Here we go This decision was not made lightly or instantly she wrote For the past five years I have given my all for Tennessee and have not regretted doing so Obviously in my last two seasons of the team have been less than ideal for many reasons But the one night I was most looking forward to was senior night
As someone who has never started a career game I was hoping to start in my last appearance at Thompson bowling That obviously did not happen By the way If they did decide to start her It would have been the token start like all right Here's our seniors are gonna start first whistle time out bring them out Okay, like I've seen that happen as a thing I don't know how much it really means per se Whatever she said that did not happen And then to be asked she wrote To check into the game with 15 seconds left while losing Was not how I wanted to spend my final moments In that arena after five years Although that was not the sole reason it was the breaking point for me I have the utmost love and respect for my teammates and this program and I wish everyone Nothing but the best
Okay, um first things first The first thing that comes to my head is the classic internet crack of This is not an airport. You do not need to announce your departure She also says she doesn't regret any of it. Of course the season's almost over So why she leaving now? Out of regret anger is she wanting more plank. I mean it's too late. She careers done Also, if I could summarize Life doesn't give you what you wanted Experience unlocked That's all it is Life often doesn't work out the way you want It often is unfair And the other people around you that you want to get validation from or appreciation from like your head coach Many times I don't want to say Most often but many times those people do not give a shit about you
Or if in the back of their head like yeah, I should give Kaya a start here. She's been a good good soldier But I'm trying to win games right now. I'm struggling. I'm gonna get fired Because Vanderbilt is the best women's team in the state. They rolled us at our place Tennessee coach Kim Caldwell has not made an announcement about wins departure Well, what why should she the seasons like over she was a backup guard What statement Senior senator senior center Jersey wolf and barger. Oh, what a name by the way Jersey J.E.R. S.E. Y wolf and barger Who appeared in 18 18 games the season also did not play in sundays Senior night game She transferred to Tennessee after two years at Arkansas and one year at LSU Tennessee's other seniors Janaya Barker, Naya Robertson and Z spearmen have started multiple games this season including sunday
Okay, find whatever The lady balls of the six seed in this week's SEC tournament in Greenville, South Kekalaga In Thursday second round they'll face Alabama Missouri the winner of Alabama versus Missouri now here's the key Two paragraphs. You ready And I can't believe this is at the end of the story Tennessee 16 and 12 eight Nate and the league has struggled since late January when it was upset at home by miss city state Oh the horror It is lost nine of its past 11 games including the past six hmm Hold on a second 9 of 11 six in a row and you didn't start a backup guard who's coming off on Achilles on senior night as a coach who's worried about getting fired I think I saw the mystery That stretch included a 30 point loss at Yukon and a program worst 43 point loss at South Carolina God Help them
The might Tennessee lady balls are in a bad spot. They're down bad I mean, I'm old enough to remember when Yukon Tennessee was hey, I don't even watch women's basketball But I got to watch this because because Gina or Yama and Pat summit are boom boom boom going at it And I'm gonna tune in 30 to Yukon 43 to Don Staley, it's up. Oh my god After falling to the gamecocks Coach Caldwell said and get this This was not the loss on senior night, but after losing to the gamecocks by 43 quote We had a lot of quit in us tonight When you're not comfortable and things don't go our way I have a team that'll just quit on you And you can't do that in big games Wow Well, and now their backup guard Kaya win has proven the coach to be correct that she quit
I just wonder She talked this over with is with her parents Kaya win and did they say look? I know you're upset. I know you think I poured my heart and soul into the program. Where's a little bit of recognition The reality in life is people oftentimes don't appreciate your contributions or don't have you in front of their mind about anything They have themselves in their own front of mine. That's it They don't give a shit If I was Kaya's dad, I would say look This may feel good on Instagram for one night. You'll get a lot of likes people go you go go go where to go But you know what you can't undo it Do you really want to go out this way you say you had a great time you said that it was a valuable experience your five years at Tennessee You got an education free education college education You met a lot of people you got to travel with the team There's two games left maybe one
You really want to go out this way like why What's what good is that gonna do? Stick it out finish it finish it with you know full Marks and if you feel like at that point you need to spill something on social media for clicks likes retweets Admiration etc. Then I guess you do what you do But you started this thing finish it right. That's what I would advise Doesn't mean if she was my daughter she'd listen to me, but it's just interesting So speaking of senior nights a tweet from an account at skins hoops 86 Said we used to have real senior nights Now I feel bad because the college basketball team's social media folks I've got a stretch to make hype videos for one-year renta players and guys who are on their third school And are never coming back to the school or caring about the current institution
Probably don't even know where the good burrito joint is on campus or off campus They're like yeah, I'm here for a hot minute because I got paid 200 grand Through the NIL portal and now I'm out The ACC network retweeted Marcus Paige Carolina Tarhill Well, I don't remember But he gave a speech on senior night that was enough to bring Roy Williams to tears When I first got here I thought I was going to play behind Kennel Marshall five or six minutes a game Spot minutes and kind of develop become you know a better player over over the four years But um he left and you kind of handed me the keys To the program and to the team and you know you probably had more confidence in me than I did at that time and A lot of people were down on me as a freshman, but The one thing you did is you always believed in me now you always told me I believe in you son
You're gonna make shots. You're gonna do fine. You're gonna be a great player And that you just believed in me and I can't thank you enough for that because That allowed me to be confident person myself and help me grow as a person Roy is just losing it right now And I know the most important thing um, I know my mom's gonna appreciate this is uh I've started taking note of the thought of the day every day in practice Um because you know, it's a lot of words of wisdom and I know one day I'm not gonna be able to walk through this tunnel and and meet with you at the beginning of practice every day And I've tried to be every every every bit the player you do want me to be But you've made me a better man and that's the most important thing I'm 10 times better man than when I was a guy here, so thank you Thank you That is incredible stuff right there That is where the whole enterprise was so valuable valuable
To young men And to the whole thing the format was the product and it's been utterly obliterated Maybe it was gonna be obliterated anyway Because the money and the interest from television was too great and it was gonna wash over Everything and wipe it out Maybe the courts eventually once lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit have been filed Would have broken the same way against the NCAA and force them to change Maybe But I know this those who should have spoken up and spoken out for the true value of the system and the format of college sports We're not only silent But they are advocating for the money men because they themselves were getting the most money Millions of dollars to broadcast the games on television the television networks and entities saying we'll pay more for it We'll pay more for it. This is crucial for our business. Oh, and by the way So I don't look like a hypocrite. Let's say pay the players
Well, we're paying the players now And they're hoppin here and hoppin there and hoppin here and hoppin there They go to the portal they disappear in the port half the half the portal vaporizes Like water in a puddle on a hot pavement And the guys that do jump around what do they have left What do they expect next They go try to find a job in the real world and they get an offer for $68,000 a year and they got a report to an office five days a week and they go what I was making too fitty Hoopin in college NIL baby I'm gonna work for 68 grand In the office five days a week Tough deal But that's where we are I don't make the reality. I just comment on it Comment up arm and sorry and we'll join us next. We've got Glass courts Metallic at tickets a Vegas ATM fee that I do not believe
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No matter what tickles your fancy. There is still plenty of action to wet your appetite But just remember where you bet is every bit is important if not more so than what you're betting on That's why I tell my friends to go to my bookie dot AG My bookie has been ahead of the game for years now and why does that matter? Oh, I don't know in a million ways better lines better payouts less rules at my bookie dot AG use promo code zeb And have your deposit matched halfway up to a thousand dollars That's a free cash bonus for making your deposit use promo code zeb to claim the offer bet win and most importantly get paid with my bookie today The great arm and sorry and joins us now with our Vegas theme song rolling in the background We are counting down the days till zeb Vegas 2026. It is going to be epic. However I sent you a receipt that I saw on the internet which may or may not be real
You can never tell these days right with purports to show an ATM surcharge fee at aria of 48 Dollars Do you believe that is real? You know that when I do Because we've always heard biggest surcharge is that biggest ATMs were real so Or high so this is not one that Well, it was often eight hundred dollar withdrawal right Should matter how much it's more 10 I agree I agree What's the largest ATM surcharge or withdrawal fee you've ever paid yourself I'm not even close to that I think a few dollars three dollars now I didn't do this But I know people that certain establishments and certain bachelor parties They peel off like an eight or ten dollar deal, you know, well, I'm smart enough Just like I'd be smart enough not to go to Vegas and have to use the ATM
That's your own problem your own stupidity if you or or even worse if you take an extra trip to the ATM in Vegas Then we might have a bigger problem where you're you're betting more than you should but you should know better than that So you're saying you should plan to never have to go to the ATM in Vegas Do you know how small the percentage of gamblers that applies to The responsible types that bring only the stack of cash that they're prepared to lose and once they're done They're done that I have no I don't have much sympathy for some of them They can't prepare themselves like a five-year-old I mean, I have to get my daughter snacks ready for her because she's 19 months old and she can't do it herself Okay, no, I'll tell you what I mean if you don't know no now. I will say this We took a family trip Family I say family Laura and her sister and his and her sisters Husband and her brother and his wife the six of us went last summer and we trip Yeah, I guess you're right. I make it sound like I brought my kids no
We took a trip and Laura's Sister I want to say couldn't believe you couldn't use a crit now. She's a full-gen Low millennial maybe Gen Z couldn't believe you couldn't use a credit saying you wouldn't mean you have to have cash Because in this world. It's a cashless world. I'm like we're going to a casino You can't I mean now you could maybe in the future Put your card in you wanted to gamble with credit card money Just didn't I couldn't believe that you couldn't use a card for whatever you needed to use this swiper Swipe your credit card at the blackjack table They're using some slots are now being developed where they're using that which is dangerous technology I understand that there's some I think I saw this story that there's some slots that allow you to connect a bank account Yeah, that's bad a debit card because that is cash that's not credit Holy shit You got to know your own you have to know your own vices and if you if you can't protect yourself from yourself
You're you're in a you might be in a world of hurt if you can't you know one of fun stops because you know I'm not gonna care about you. I mean they're gonna say they do but you know better figure it out, but yeah No the ATM fees there Listen, you can get any fee you want in Vegas now these days you know There's no limit to the gouging for sure. Okay. Well, we'll we'll see we should probably stop by Arya and just test it and say I'd like to withdraw. I'd like to withdraw 20 dollars And then see what it takes. Yeah, I would assume it can't I think the 48 dollars must have been a percentage like you said Of a certain withdrawal because they're not gonna charge you a 48 bucks on 20 dollars with draw Although somebody would be dumb enough and drunk enough to go. Ah well, it is what it is Well, I'm going for AT I'm I'm going full day of rams. You know, I don't use eight times anymore at all wow Okay, are you a ramsy disciple? I don't know if I'm full disciple, but I like the content because you know, I'm a frugal. I'm a money saver
Oh ramsy's great. Yeah, it's good stuff, but um But I I don't use them mostly because I think we need cash less than ever That's part of it. We do need cash less than ever and every institution the government businesses are trying to Basically eliminate cash because it's bad for them. They get no data out of it There's breakage people put in their pockets. It's also dirty And you know, it's a it's an inefficient way of transferring money But it's great for surveillance. It's great for restricting people's rights And so the ability to still pay cash for things is a freedom issue That's And sometimes you can save you know, obviously they don't have the surcharge and you can self-regulate better what you're spending But as you know, it's also a little it's also about Like like experience, right? I mean that there is more of an enjoyment in winning cash At a sportsbook than there is just adding a number on my phone. I for me ability
I've talked about the bill like I want to win the cash like it's more exciting Because when you were a kid, you dreamt of the day where you might be able to have your own hundred dollar bill in your hand Yeah, not just see a number change on a phone app. It's just not the same experience. So It's a reckoning for a place like Vegas, which was historically always as you know, Zayba cash town Oh, yeah, you know and cash is king So it still isn't that regard But even now a lot of the gamblers will will pay ahead with a marker to the casino sure You know, no, I don't gamble that much. I really don't but the one that grew they have markers You remember the iconic movie casino, right? Yep, and when there's the narrator voiceover of Ace Rothstein Explaining how Vegas works about there's people account the money as people who watch the people Who are watching the money who are counting the money as that montage is rolling what kind of money are they showing coins coins usually dollar coins because that was the currency of Vegas and they would put them in big trays
And they'd haul them into the armored cars and that's the way it was While we're talking money and outrageous amounts I have a unique Wednesday problem for Zayba Vegas I'm coming out Wednesday Thursday night is our first night sweet 16 night. When are you coming out Thursday morning? Wednesday night also Flat was cheaper. So where are you staying Wednesday night Luxor? Yes, sir Luxor at what rate? Um It was a comp rate. Well, it was the same rate. I got I got a book. I booked them. I booked as soon as we set this up So months again. I had you know Luxorx caliber the lowest to MGM properties and with my players Level which is not high, but I have the MGM credit card which automatically puts me in pearls So I have all my little ways. I don't gamble much but During the week you can often get a comp rate for those hotels, which I did I only have to pay taxes and resort fees and then my Friday night is the only one that's a little bit higher
Okay By the way, here I am I should obscure them around this I don't have my wallet, but yeah, yeah, so I'm a I'm a nubby silver MGM guy But that said My guy my guy Ryan McElwee who has been great hooking me up with his You know, he's gotten comp rooms from MGM. So he's letting me use one of them comps He had locked down Three of the four nights But was waiting on the fourth night because the rates were a bit high Turns out the fourth night was the Wednesday, which is the first of the four nights And Unbeknownst to him Wednesdays sold out underneath him Wow, there's no rooms at MGM wow The entire town on Wednesday night the 25th is through the roof Park MGM Is almost five hundred dollars for Wednesday night
You look at Vegas.com hotels. You'll see it. I'm checking. I'm checking my Side right now. That's crazy right now. There's a reason according to my guy Rhino It's Lady Gaga Lady Gaga has a concert that night and it is completely Disfigured the market. So now Yeah, there's a nasty spike on that Wednesday night. Yeah, I got a scramble for a bed On Wednesday night Well, I got good news and bad news for you Yeah, the good news is you I think you'll find one The bad news is it might not be the property you want and the other bad news is I got a king So I don't have two queens and you're not staying with me Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa You can switch that to two queens I could shack up with you for one night. We could do it. I just have to give it's available Come on armen do I'm not against the idea. We just have to see I will spiff you I will spiff you a hundred bucks
Yes, I will pay for the armen second bed rate hundred bucks At the sucks or and we will film some of the most hilarious content ever in the hotel that I hate yet you love Luxor Uh, that's you know what I'm I just gotta make sure they have a queen available in the tower I only stay in the tower. I don't stay in the pyramid Yeah, because the pyramid sucks you have to drive you if this go in the stupid inclinators and they're very On each corner of the stupid thing Well, and I you know There have been times in my life where I've struggled with vertigo situations. Oh really not real bad But enough to make me uncomfortable on those elevators enough for me to tell them I have a medical condition in which I had to use the tower Because you don't have the right to book into the tower alone you have to prove a medical you can Know you can do it, but for some reason it doesn't show up sometimes on the site Um, or if it does sometimes it shows up as a higher rate and then usually if you call they can match it But sometimes not uh, no, listen if you want to I'll definitely call and try and get too queen
It's just a matter of if the rooms available at this point. All right, two queens Listen, we're not in college anymore. I'm not doing two to two of beds. Sorry brother Well, no, I didn't ask for that. I would not do that either. I know no home Let's go ahead you get two beds. I'm in there with the by the way, I'll be in there for one hot second Oh, I don't care is it I don't care about that. I'm I'm what's happy to hang out with you. I know what's happening is Thursday morning I'm waking up at ass crack old playing golf. Yeah playing golf teeth balls in the air at 6.50 a.m. at Bally high And then by the time we're done that I got to go get my stuff and check in at mgm grand then we've got The pre-sweet 16 podcast show out there and then the popper shot that'll be at three in the afternoon So it's gonna go quick. Yeah, all right you know the the thing is About getting up early in Vegas is if you're coming from the east. Usually it's not too bad the first day Because you're up early, right? I mean for right your body clock is a little bit more adjusted So so you say 6.50, but really it for you. It's 9.50 9.50, right?
Okay, let's talk college basketball the first thing I want to write by you is This court that the big 12 is gonna use for their tournament So the team mobile center. I think it's in it's Philip 66 sponsors the tournament Team mobile center. This is no cloma city, right? This is where the thunder play I believe And I have a glass court that has led technology underneath where with a flip of a button a touch of an iPad. They can change the You know sort of logos and the paint on the cord To look like any team they want they can also put ads on the court And of course era we have major Corporation sponsoring this event windex Perfect sponsor is one of the main corporate entities behind this glass court Where does arm and sorry and stand on glass Courts It's in a it's a bomb. It's an abomination to the game Okay, oh come on. This is like the NBA cup courts
First of all, it's hard for the viewer to watch Second of all if it wasn't hard if which is not enjoyable to watch nobody wants to watch basketball like this This is something that it's gimmicky Obviously, it's just to sell ads and I'm not even convinced that the Court is correct for like gameplay. We're used to hardwood floors So how do I know that this is a proper court with proper ball bouncing that I'll see a proper game How do I know like That's like saying we're gonna play with rubber rims instead of iron, you know Right T-mobile is in Kansas City not in open city You should have at the least for a basketball game you should have a wood court Listen It's it's you remember the fish that say Pittsburgh you probably remember that Evagely yes, that really weird movie with all the psychedelic right basketball That's what this looks like. How can there nobody can sit there and tell me boy as a basketball fan I enjoy this nobody
Yeah, well it does Lead to the thought of if class led courts become standard In major arenas Okay, you have to you have to start to get your head around where this could be going If it becomes standard then you have an a whole new ability To create elements of game rules that never existed like a light up three-point shot I've said this would be an interesting feature And the only way to do it is a light up court where you can put LEDs And the three-pointer lights up somebody I said do this after You've had three stops in a row on defense somebody said to me arm and this is just like NBA jams Where you three Yeah, but that was a video game For kids we don't also try and say let's make the world like Zelda and go and have to live our life that like I don't know it. I just think like real
Sports and basketball fans don't want this so it's a gimmick. Say if you know that yeah, you can make yeah What did it take an NBA jam To get to unlock I guess whatever it was that they made three straight made field goals without the other team making one meant you're on fire And what did that mean after that it meant it was really easy to make baskets almost every shot will go in and the ball would would be flaming all over the place So you wanted to get you wanted to get On fire let's go you wanted to get on fire because it'd be really easy to score then you know Is this music at y'all You know Uh, I don't know. I would imagine it was huge in your unit incredibly you can play at the arcade now What I was a what I was a bucks the bucks had the worst team red low-hoss and Blue Edwards. Yeah, I'm gonna say who who are the bucks? There was Brad low-house and blue Blue Edwards, and that was one when the the night the bucks won the world championship. I was in five serve
And That kept running through my mind that kept running through my mind What a great deal to get to go to that game. How did that happen? It was amazing because of you. Thank you and mr. Darryl Yes, I've always told you I appreciate. No, I'm just giving you shit I mean look at this game right here. It was awesome. This was the height of sports Video game entertainment as a kid you wanted to play it in the arcade But then the chance when I had the super intendo the chance to get this game I got it for Christmas. I'll never forget I was in my gram and grandpa's house It was one of the most exciting things that ever happened It was so exciting. We could play You could get better. Have you while you played a the modern NBA games on either Xbox Well on PlayStation or PlayStation 5 because I'd imagine both the graphics and The gameplay has come a long way. Oh everything better though. Is it fun to Actually play everything's better, but what you said is interesting
I mean it can be just as fun to play old games It doesn't mean your entertainment has to be a different level of factors just because of the technology is I played two games stuff those games are fun to I haven't been a video gamer for a while though I'm not I'm not one of these guys that keeps up with gaming. I haven't had a system for a long time Since I I last had a roommate 10 years ago and he had a bunch of games when we played that was probably the last time I played consistently Yeah, well when I was in college my roommate and I Scott Lawrence had a running series of NH not NHL hockey. He was not second, but it was Nintendo hockey where they had fat guy medium And we had a running we had a running series that we kept a ledger on a written piece of paper The sponsor and the date and who won and The the rivalry got so intense at times that I Hate to admit this Turned off the game and anger as I was getting drilled by my boy Lawrence. Yeah, I'm like
No, that's sort of losing right there, but that's what we weren't sort of losing it It led it led to a roommate fight where we didn't talk to each other for a couple of days as I was Similarly, I had a good friend of Marquette my friend grand lord y'all give him a shout out good friend for a long time And the new madden just came out this is oh five the new madden just came out where you could do a season And and there would be think there would be different features like like media newspapers would report on your team and stuff like that And we both had a season going and we kept talking it was a similar deal to that But for some reason little fake madden newspapers said I kept saying I had turmoil within my team And we didn't understand we didn't understand why I was like a big running joke So it's a good memory you brought up there with my buddy That is funny right there So else we're in college basketball Did you see that bill self got ejected last night for their game at Arizona state? My favorite thing about that was the Arizona state Go ahead. Yeah, I was gonna say so you saw this
Yeah, it's fantastic The Arizona state game ops guy was on his game last night. Here's the video of it Because as self is walking slowly Out of the arena after being ejected, which is pretty rare I don't know how many times bill self who's pretty mild mannered Uh gets ejected from games. It's not like he's bob huggins or something like that as he's walking into the tunnel That the Arizona state game ops guy fires the steam cannons around the entrance As he is ejected hearing Ah He met the moment We only had a little time to think about is that I will have an opportunity here to make this great And he met the moment that guy did I do it. I do it. Shall I hit the thing? And there he is just okay and there he go And you know, it sounds silly to say but this was the first half If the game wasn't over and this was a big win fairs on say it sounds silly to say
But that extra juice for the crowd might have helped us team win that night You never know right hey game ops guy should be honored You imagine you know the the famous clip of a bob night throwing the chair, you know Right and then there was another one where he went in the 90s Got tossed at assembly hall and was yelling at I think it's 10 Valentine the ref He did a blow-by he kind of did a blow-by he took a specific route on the blow-by right oh my god It was like a low pass of a fighter a flyby where he feared And he made sure to get real close without touching him as a way to intimidate him Can you imagine if they would have fired something off while that was happening Speaking I know we're gonna talk about officials. So hold on so speaking of officials the guy who ejected Bill self is named is Doug sermons s-i-r-m-o-n-s And he is a pretty well-respected official I don't know exactly how we're well-respected. I've got a buddy Ron Thomas who knows every ref
all the details He will fire off on the group chat to us arman details about certain referees calling certain games Like he's you know Dustin Hoffman and rainman. It's absurd how much he knows and he's so into it This guy's good this guy's a phony this guy's a show pony etc etc I think Doug sermons is pretty well regarded however He works every fucking night. Yeah, and travels all Over the place To the point where people are saying hold on a second How do we know we're getting a well-balanced well-rested not pissed off because he's on his ninth game in nine days referee ejecting coaches in a crucial League game like we had last night. Here's Doug sermons schedule. Look at this thing. Wow Nine straight nights. He refereed games from Tucson, Arizona To college park, Maryland, Evanston, Illinois, Champaign, Illinois, West Lafayette, Boulder, Colorado, Waco, Texas, Lawrence, Kansas, Fort Worth, Texas as well
Wow First of all at the brutal schedule So you don't know how rest of these guys are right not rested I don't know what rest of they are not armen and I've said long of long said the best Efficienting job is college basketball and any sport because you have the opportunity to work so many nights And obviously these guys want to work as much as they can to get as much money as they can because they can you know get a per game Whatever they can travel and and honestly It's a problem for college basketball because they don't have much choice because of how many games have to be officiated I mean there might there's three hundred and sixty five division one team's aim and any week There might be five hundred plus D one games you need refs for all these games Sure, I mean and so if you're a good one in demand you're gonna be hired by Desperate, you know, A.D.'s and people that are looking at schedule refs So there isn't much choice you either have more refs which make them worse You have refs that are forced to take more rest, but then again, how do you fill the spots?
I would argue that having Doug Sermon's Ref your game is still probably better than some junior guy who's trying to make his bones and thinks he's hot shit And writing hard calling too many calls etc Dan Dockich outkick Said here's a dirty little secret in college hoops referees get paid different by the league the Mac will pay refs 2,000 to 2500 per game. It's a lot of money by the way Think about that If you work if you work ten nights in a row I know, but you know what to get to the two to grand a night you have to ref so many girls JV games at high school at literally twelve dollars a game and and and and you do it every day It's like punching a clock driving a truck. They don't care. Right. I mean I don't care, but so Mac the Mac pays two grand a 2500 per game says dockich the big 10 though pays 2800 to 4200 per game so in other words the the lowest big 10 pay according to dockich is more than a Mac game
He then says who do you think refs want to keep happy the Mac coach or the big 10 coach It's an easy answer when Mac teams go to big 10 arenas the fucking is legendary And I got a nasty call from the bosses at ESPN for saying this on the air the big 10 commissioner Jim Delaney was also pissed that I expose this True Yeah, I don't believe it. I thought this was silly when I first saw it and but Dan dockich is the king of bad hot takes I think it's an absurd notion to think that these guys are bending over backwards to try and help big 10 teams I think it's more likely big 10 teams are a lot better than Mac teams But I know he coach a ball state and that's that's what he wants to do and he want do you really think this is true that this much of I know It's true arm. Oh, no, come on. Why here's why well because You think there's a grand conspiracy and there's memos and there's plans in place. It's just a matter of Who's gonna get the whistle on a given night? Who's gonna get a few more calls? Who's going to be allowed to body players a bit more
How is it gonna play out When I was a much younger man arm in that head still some hair on my head and I wore a thinner man's pants I was the play by play vase voice of the UC Santa Barbara gouchos. I know I found some stuff on YouTube I'm sure you did of you doing that the the the the coaches show the coaches show Yeah, I put that up there on YouTube. It's right. That was you. Yeah. Yeah, so I did the games and one year UC Santa Barbara from the mighty big west conference and the same mighty with all sarcasm because it was not mighty We got a home and home with Texas Now that's big time shit a home and home Absolutely, you know, even though Texas in the early 90s was not what it is now basketball wise They were still only given a shit about pretty much Good ball But Texas is Texas But we got a home at home. We actually dragged Texas to our court That's bad work by the Texas AD
Well, they needed a pair of games. I guess yes. So here's a deal. So the the game at UCSB they beat us But it was pretty much even game We were turned the favor the next year. I'm on the team flight. I'm going down there. I'm court side Uh call in the game and let me tell you the calls that I saw with my own eyes and the fucking bias From the southwest conference is what it was at the time the southwest conference officials who we had to agree to let them use because that was part of the deal It was Egregious armen Well, I know this does happen the The bad call that's really happened. Yeah, the big 10 will get a heavier whistle or a lighter whistle Have you want to look at it if they're playing a smaller conference now this goes back to the whole You know argument about Miami, Ohio as they cruise towards what could be a epic conundrum if they lose in their conference tournament this week
Dockage says the Mac is perceived as a soft touch hoops league So then why are big 10 schools so damn afraid of legit home and home series the schools are close the travel is easy Don't give me the net quad one or quad four bullshit Big 10 schools have been ducking the Mac for you. This is just but I'm sorry dockage is stupid on this one Okay, I want to hear your response to that Well, first of all, I don't accept this premise that they're ducking Mac schools They just don't want to give a one-in-one to a school with the value isn't there. Okay, the value is not there A Mac school shouldn't get a one-in-one with Michigan fair as you get a four-in-one at best or something right I'm thinking about they say they don't want to schedule them I don't think it's they they don't want a schedule and but the terms might not be on their on their end However There is a problem with if you're too good of a mid major. It's hard to get a game with a high major But you can't tell me they couldn't have scheduled a little bit better now I don't know only only the AD's truly know that process and how hard they tried to schedule it I mean the Miami will help with three division two teams in the non-conference did they have to do that?
We don't know there are other teams that are playing high majors They just have to be willing to go there and play Miami knows if they go play Michigan They're going to lose and they go play a lot of say they're going to lose That doesn't necessarily mean they can't get in that large bit But it means it's going to be it's going to be harder. So they they they like this They got a bunch of wins and most importantly they got a home gate. They got a home gate for their team for their games Yeah, that's what this is also about so He's saying if Miami loses armen, are you going to pound the table for them to get in? Well, it's a good question and writing is interesting I'm not in you. Yes, I know Well, I think it's interesting about this is they won again last night against Toledo by two So they're giving it the sports gods are giving us exactly what we wanted because if Miami would have lost any of these close games This would be an over-conversation I know we wouldn't be able to talk about it But they keep winning these close games against really bad teams That giving us this opportunity to say still should they be in Miami's 30-0 and I'm telling you right now
If the NCA they have a problem from hell on their hands. I said it last week If the NCA adheres to the standards that they set forth when giving that when the committee gets together They should not be an at-large team when they will have one loss. This is assuming they lose a game, right? So that the bad level you can tell Miami shorts are getting really tight right now because of the narrow wins You can tell they're like oh, oh shit. Don't slip up here But they love it because well, that's true But they also like this because they can be a martyr for college basketball and now they want to be a martyr They want to be in the dance martyrdom only goes so far there there there as somebody who called an NIT game one year for UCSB It's the most depressing tournament in the world because you know you're not at the dance The crowd is half full if that at your arena your own ad might not have wanted to take the game itself Because it's just kind of not worth it, but they are you So that's what Miami wants. We'll see what happens. I think I think if they go like 32 and one
I think they'll the committee will put them in Dayton because they don't want the smoke. I really do I think they'll do it, but I'm telling you It's not it's not just narrative to say Miami's Out of conference numbers and all this stuff is bad. It really is They really have really terrible numbers in the out of conference the lowest Ken Pond team ever to make an at-large Was 2016 when tempo was 95 right now my amulio is 89th. So We'll see it's happened Lost is gonna damage their numbers though, and that's the scenario we're talking about so we don't know what it's gonna be Did you see Lanardi clapping back on Bruce Pearl About the Auburn thing So here's what Lanardi said quote. I try to avoid debates without clear right or wrong answers But Bruce Pearl's argument against Miami as an at-large team requires context Well, I'll talk about a soft rebuke First high-major status aside We have no idea whether Auburn is the better basketball team second Miami has won Four more true road games than Auburn has even played
And road teams and men's college basketball win less than care to take a guess arm in what percentage of road wins In do I'll say I'll say 30 percent 33 percent they win less than a third of the time Finally in the modern history of the NCAA tournament Great mid majors Which maybe Miami is maybe they're a fraud But great mid majors have won Almost twice as many games as Middling high majors despite fewer bids and weaker seating boom That's a mic drop from one Jolana. Yeah good stuff. I mean nuanced Take with information to back it up. I like it although one thing I'd say is How much a team will or won't win in the tournament shouldn't matter It should be based on your body of work to get in you know like that That shouldn't prove that you were worthy or not. I don't believe I never I'd never believed in that I mean you don't think tournament success validates the fact like hey
Nobody thought St. Peter's was any good and look at how far they went Holy shit Loyola of Chicago is actually in the final four maybe a little bit But those are basically high variance results So I don't think they tell us much because it's like these are these are coin flip games that could have these are anecdotal results Right you're judge on a body of work on a bid being deserved or not And I think at that point the decisions been made the process is already done So you can't you can't look at a result afterward and say it's 2020 hides I don't believe in that but I get why some people do it's a lot Intuitive and logical for some to think that way But I just don't that being said he makes other good points But Miami isn't playing anybody if Auburn played Miami schedule. They might blow those teams out. We don't know That's good fun debate for sure Our internet crapped out so we're going to wrap it from here. I'll just say in closing arm and our next big Mission will be to get metallic at tickets at the sphere. I'm sure you're aware of just how Observed it has been trying to get them. Oh, yeah, the online queue to buy the tickets reaching 500
Thousand people long they added eight more shows prices through the roof And people are bitching about it and complaining and I'm like do you not understand basic supply and demand? Right, that's it. That's what it is and the reality is if that much demand is there they're going to have more shows They want to make their money. So no, I don't think I'll be emptying three or four more months worth of mortgage for one ticket To see the remains the skeletal remains of Metallica Exactly, but this is like the era's tour For the adult men the era's tour for the adult men who got hit in the shorts by taking their daughters And their friends to, you know, Taylor Swift they're now like well I'm going to be irresponsible going to see a band. I like island. This is them saying this get bailous thing now. It's my turn This is my turn All right arm always a joy my friend work on that two queen setup at the Luxor unlock a three hundred dollars for you To push out under the felt will have a grand time. All right, sounds good
You Let's end on this the TGL the tomorrow golf league or the giant indoor simulator league starring PGA tour pros who are scooping up an extra Couple million dollars some of the top guys to play in this thing Had its best moment ever Last night as Tom Kim of Jupiter golf links that would be Tiger's team clad in all red shirts, although they're different makes and models and even shades of red which Triggers me to go back to church from yesterday the not only to the different colorways of the shoes on the NBA players trigger me But this also triggers me you're like okay, so you're a team in the TGL You need team shirts. You need to pick a team shirt same colors same make Same manufacturer, but okay, whatever Tom Kim playing for Jupiter Tiger Woods not playing, but he is captaining so he's out there part of it
Throws the hammer down. They've got to win their match to make the playoffs the hammer is like a multiplier for points par three and Tom Kim does this Yeah, they play music at the TGL just like the live tour So tough Now this is going to be gone. This is going to be really good Matthew Barry calling it for ESPN Matthew Barry has been a enthusiastic height man for the endeavor and I don't blame him for that guys trying to advance his career Kim going crazy Jumping chest bumps between the players Tiger with a giant bear hug. It's like easy easy guys still coming back from his Achilles
Kisner doing whatever Kisner does these days. Homa. It's part of the team Okay, so there it was um Let's see most of TGL's ratings come from any match involving Tiger's team Because it's Tiger. He's the guy that moves the needle. He has the needle And they need to win one more match to In the advance to the finals and they're down to their last shot basically These are all simulators. These are all computers running this If they wanted To to put their finger on the scale their thumb on the scale if they wanted to just say hey, let's give Tom Kim all one here I mean, what would stop him from doing it? Who's gonna audit them from doing it? They could just say well Nobody's gonna know Hitting into a simulator screen where exactly the ball is going what spin raid its distance its angle
I mean, it's totally plausible I didn't say likely I said plausible you just don't know Of course Marty Smith the SPN Said this was one of the coolest moments I've seen Someone to clown TGL talk all you want this shit was electric I guess I guess if you're there and you're making a paycheck to announce for it and you're talking to the players Of course you're gonna get hyped up Into the moment Someone else tweeted and it could have been a bot I've watched countless tour events majors and writer cups over the years and I've never seen a celebration as big as this Sim ace Where does this rank amongst the greatest shots of all time? Okay I said behind Woody Austin's punch out from the trees on 15 at harbor town to save double on a trunk slam friday But ahead of billiandraids bladed bunker shot that hit the stick and drop for a par at heartford
greatest shot In golf history Again, I'm probably responding to a bot on this so the jokes on me But I just couldn't resist Hey, if you like the TGL if it's fun Go ahead watch it But let's not get carried away people and also can you please fix the shirt situation You're one team one brand of shirt one color of shirt And the pants can be optional, but yeah, well not optional you need to wear pants My point is you can wear Perhaps your own brand of pants long as the color matches But the shirts need to be one color Thanks for listening make sure to rate and review of you have a second I really appreciated to help with the algo rhythmic overlords Go ahead send me a text if you want or tweet at zade charlie zulu alpha bravo echo Also, you can hit me up via email at zade at yahu dot com Including if you want information on our get together at mgm
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