Elon Musk Outed with Receipts as Tell All Threatens to Expose Him

0:00What do you think he's gonna do? Because we already seem spiraling. And I think he's been spiraling forever. But this is gonna exacerbate it. When this thing drops, there are so many people within this documentary that I think that's why they're freaking out a little bit is that it is really hard to come away from that with a different conclusion than there needs to be inquiry here. This is a documentary. Christmas is coming in October this year because a brave documentarian has made a four hour expose on the absolute human garbage that is Elon Musk. And here to discuss this documentary with me today is Ashley St. Clair. Ashley, I saw clips of you out in Venice, the Venice Film Festival. And I'm afraid that the father of your child, Elon Musk also saw these clips.

1:02And he had some things to say to you about you on Twitter, the mother of one of his children. And let's pop this up. TMZ says Ashley St. Clair says she rejected Elon Musk's $40 million NDA, and Elon Musk responds to that tweet and says she was never offered that and has a history of making false claims. So the father of your child is going after you on Twitter is clearly triggered by this. And you have not responded to this publicly yet until now. And what do you have to say about this? Do you have a history of making false claims? No, and I think that's a very serious accusation. I am in law school. I am going to have to pass the character and fitness test for the bar. I think that is a very serious allegation to make that I have a history of false claims, which I do not. And I don't plan on letting that slide lightly. Additionally, Alex Gimney, whose documentary this is, they have a copy of that contract. They have a copy of the calls. They have a copy of all the text messages. And I also provided you a copy of that contract.

2:04She did. She sent, before she came here today, our producer Ryan, a copy of the contract. And it has been confirmed by media outlets and this documentary filmmaker. But that's not the only place that Elon Musk went after you. This is clearly setting him off. This impending and this incoming four-hour exposé that has been firmly vetted by an incredible documentarian. And Elon Musk goes after you again, pop this up. Adam Lois meet up says, Ashley just wants to be the center of attention. She will forever keep making up stories till the day she dies. She's not even thinking about what this is doing to the children. She doesn't care. Elon says she craves the spotlight. And before that, he said she was never offered that. And she has a history of making false claims. Okay. Elon Musk saying that you crave the spotlight. When this guy showed up to the White House,

3:05high on ketamine with a black eye and his child. Or a chain saw at CPAC or buying a platform and having your engineers boost you in the algorithm because Joe Biden got more likes than you want to tweet. That's it. But I'm the one that craves the spotlight. I think it's ridiculous. I also think, you know, he's responding to someone who says, I'm not thinking about my children. The only thing I do is I'm with my children. That's all I do. How often does he see his child? I can't speak to that, but I can let him answer that question. Maybe someone should ask him that. Yeah. That would probably be a great question. And then he continues to go on and it gets worse. Now he calls the mother of his child. He says she's evil. And I just want to point out to the viewer and all of you all are abundantly aware of this. Elon Musk is the richest man in the world that has cut programs that are killing off the poorest children, most needy vulnerable children of the world, which is about as evil as it gets in my opinion.

4:06You know him well, Ish. How much is this incoming documentary causing him to spiral? I think they're really freaking out about this. And the irony of him calling me evil. First of all, that puts a target on me and my children. Second of all, the beauty of the documentary from Alex Goodney is that he goes into all of this, the USAID cuts, even the autopilot issues. That was a, that is a really the autopilot issue. That is Tesla's autopilot. Oh, yeah, yeah. And full self-driving that has resulted in really graphic deaths. And that part was one of the heaviest in the documentary. So this documentary is not centered on baby mama drama or his weird compulsion to breed, whatever that is. It is really all of these actions that you're laying out. And who Elon Musk is as a stock bumper, as someone who's been defrauding the government and the public for quite some time. And that's the focus of it all in one spot.

5:08And so I don't think people are going to walk away from that documentary with the same conclusions he has, mind you, he hasn't even seen it. Right, but he knows what he knows that he's done, which I would assume, their secret stuff, probably relating to Doge. And this is my opinion, not yours, not the filmmakers, but my opinion is that the stuff, once he got into Doge, is stuff that is going to have to be fared it out and rooted out because this is just my opinion. I don't think it was legal. I think that that he wanted to get in there to prevent investigations that were happening against him. But will you speak to this thing that happens? The right always claims their victims and the left uses all this violent rhetoric. That's utter bullshit because we heard that Trumpa pollutes a recently, they were talking about shooting Zoron and shooting Abdul-El-Sahed and James Talleriko.

6:09When this MAGA movement and musk adjacent movement, when they get on, when they, he tweets about you and musk has tweeted about me before, the mouse of hell open up and the threats that come against somebody like you, he's tweeted about a lot more and somebody like me. It's really overwhelming the threats of sexual violence and how terrifying that is, this man-led movement and the threats that come out of it. Can you speak to that? And what's happened to you psychologically and for your safety about all of that? There's obviously whenever you're in the public eye, you're gonna get some backlash, but there is a difference whenever Elon tweets about me, the threats against myself, against my children. As soon as he was sending these out, I had someone saying they were gonna tax the dermy my head and use it as a pillow. And the contrast of the messages I get before and after he tweets, there is a power different, differential in when he tweets versus when I'm just speaking for myself.

7:10And it really makes you think because I said a while ago when he tweets about Vivian, he's putting a hit on his child's head. And that's something that I really don't understand how people ignore, whatever his opinions are, however much he disagrees with someone, he has immense power and influence, and anytime he targets someone, their life is at risk. And I don't understand, I'm a mother, you're a mother. I don't understand disowning a child and saying they're dead if they're trans, like that level of parenting and that conditional love coming from a parent is such a window into his soul. Because I as a parent, I have two kids, you have two kids. My love for them is unconditional. And if one of my children were trans or gay, I would think, oh, I have to love them even more than I already do. You've got to find more love because the world is gonna be that cruel.

8:11And Elon Musk, like I think probably the, one of the more disgusting things about him is he doesn't understand unconditional love. So justine Musk is also in the documentary in Alex Vivian's mother. Yes, Vivian's mother, Elon's first wife, she's also in the documentary, and she speaks to this about the impacts on Vivian about how when all of this first happened that Elon cut her off from their health insurance. How Elon never wanted to repair that, the damage to Justine because when he says that their child had died, they actually had a child that passed away. And so to see Justine and it was really heartbreaking, but also, you know, it was nice to have her in there and have that sort of validation because there's so few people who can relate to the person that Elon is, but that is a very heavy part in the documentary as well as Justine's contribution. And I keep thinking about the people

9:14that are still supporting Musk and Trump, which are kind of one and the same. And what a cancer it is in this country, cultural cancer, if you will. And the fact that these are the same people that want to lecture people about traditional marriage and lecture people about family values and lecture people about all sorts of things. And they worship like two of the biggest deadbeat dads on the planet. I mean, like Donald Trump famously, you can even ask Michael Cohen, I know he's flipped back and forth and back and forth, but Michael Cohen, another as I've said, the way Donald Trump treats Don Jr. is just jaw-dropping, just brow-beat seem and just humiliate seem every single time he's around, doesn't matter who's in the room. And not even just their own children, though, even what we're seeing with immigration, even if that's their point on immigration, there's children, babies who don't have attorneys that are happening right now. And it is so cruel and so demeaning, these people, if you think it's only going to be isolated

10:15to their own family dynamics, you are completely ignorant and it will come for you too. I think that's a really important point when people can't protect their own, your next on the chopping block, which is why I'm always so fascinated about JD Vance and being such a racist apologist when he has a wife of Indian descent and mixed race children. Well, that's why it's important. It's not just gossiping and talking about their degeneracy and their messed up family dynamics. It does have an outward effect. It does spill out into their policies and what we're seeing right now. It is not isolated to their private life. And that's why this is all so important because particularly in Mosque, the documentary, you see how this influence has just ballooned. And in part how both the Democrats and the Republicans and the government kind of made him how much he was able to exploit the government to get to where he is. And now we're all feeling the effects of this

11:16because again, it's not just isolated to that personal life. So let's get back to what's at the core of your part in the documentary, which you were offered $40 million for your speech. And in today's world, so many people would have taken that. And again, I want to say this document is real. We have it in our possession. We are not for legal reasons showing it on screen, but Ashley sent us in the $40 million NDA does exist and we have vetted it here on this podcast. What went through your mind psychologically when you got that and where were you in your own political evolution at the time? Cause you used to be MAGA and then you started deconstructing. Oh, yeah. Where were you personally when you received that and then what went through your brain when you got a $40 million NDA? So at that point, I was already pretty fractured.

12:16I had already been speaking to people close to me about the same concerns that I'm talking about in this documentary. And so I was already becoming rather disillusioned even though publicly I didn't seem that way, but privately I was having a lot of internal battles about this and then to get this $40 million NDA while I'm holding my newborn, I'm freshly postpartum. I gave birth in September. I get this over disappearing signal messages in December and it's just me looking at this contract over disappearing signal messages. I knew right away. I was like, I can't sign this. Immediately. Immediately I messaged Jared Bershall and I said, I cannot. Who's Jared Bershall? He is the henchman demon who runs all of Elon. He really is. He's awful. He is so horrific. He's like the baby mama handler. He also runs all of Elon's money. He is a rather under-discussed character in the Elon world. But he was the one who was like, you're gonna have to sign this, all the other mothers signed it.

13:20And so I do go into that in the documentary and there is more about Jared in there, but it was right away. I told Jared I cannot in good conscience sign this and I think I gave you the text with Jared and some of those are in the film as well, but I told him my children's well-being are not commodities that I'm gonna sell. And your personal speech? My voice. Yeah. I mean, to me, naturally Ashley, people are gonna be skeptical of anybody that was in the epicenter of the magma movement. And you were. And naturally people are gonna be skeptical people that were in Elon Musk's orbit. And you were. You, at the end of the day, so many people have been indoctrinated into that magma world, via TPUSA, which you entered in it that way. And the deconstruction is so important, but you turning down the $40 million,

14:20the integrity in that and the credibility you've garnered. And it puts a lot of weight behind your, yourself as a person. And it's really like, for me, it's like, oh my God, people can overcome that and be good. Like I wanna believe in goodness again, but let's get still out there too. And when Elon says she craves the spotlight, I had the spotlight. I was the darling of Twitter. I was the darling of the right wing. Elon was promoting me all the time. It wasn't like that was my first time on TV or in front of a camera. It was when I went to the Venice Film Festival. I had been on television talking about these people. There was a time where I was on television and my lower third didn't say mother of Elon Musk kids. I used to say my name. I used to say author. I used to be my own person. And so to make it like I've just all of a sudden came out of nowhere, but he has a type. He consistently chooses women who have a voice. And I liken him to like a butterfly collector

15:21who like pins their wings to the wall. And I think it's really sad to see, because Justine was a fantastic writer who still has an incredible voice, Claire Grimes, a musician with a fantastic voice that he loves to silence. And I think there's something that he gets off on that to silence these people who have incredibly articulate and moving powerful voices. So, but no, the spotlight was already on me, Elon. Exactly. Okay, so there's some reporting from MPR about something else in the documentary. Let's pop this up. You discussed this on I've had it before. It was confirmed by MPR and my listeners will know. But in the film, St. Claire says one of the more outlandish and confounding claims, Mouss made to her was that he would quote, unleash the anomaly in the matrix ahead of the 2024 presidential election to ensure Donald Trump would win. She said Moussq texted her that he has quote over 10,000 lasers in space. MPR obtained the authenticated text between Moussq

16:24and St. Claire. And the last time you were on, I've had it. I held your phone in my hand and I saw these with my own eyes. This has brought up something that my listeners that are YouTube listeners that is kind of out there in the space. It's some people call it blue and on and whatnot. And I- Blue Manga. What? Blue Manga. But that, and I believe that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That's kind of what I want to believe that they were rigged. I want to believe that 77 million people didn't vote for it. Do I think Elon would rig it? Do I think Donald Trump would cheat? 100%. Yes, I think they're totally capable of that. But this brings up and the MPR verification of all of this brings up. What's your take on him saying that? What's your take on this whole thing? The real culmination right after this came out and again, they haven't seen the film. There's other experts in this film,

17:24even including Jeffrey Hinton, who is the godfather of AI, who speaks about the data that he got from Doge and the election and all of this stuff. The real scandal here is that nobody's allowed to ask questions. And if this was a kosher method, whatever he did, if it was kosher, then it should survive scrutiny. Then you shouldn't have to send legal letters. People should be able to ask, what did you mean by that? Because again, these are his own words being read back to him. This isn't something that I just conjured up one day or a history of false claims. This is something that he said. And additionally, what he said was on election night. He said, my team has the best real-time data. And he left early. He texted that on iMessage. So where did you get the best real-time data? That is a fair question to ask. That is very fair to ask. Everybody should be asking that. Because guess what? You don't get that sort of data from what America PAC was spending on, such as canvassing and doorknocking.

18:27That's inherently not great data. So where did you get the data? And I think everyone should be asking that question. That is entirely fair to ask. I think it's entirely fair to ask too. And I think that I believe my listeners in the comment section can correct me here. It's called like maybe election integrity alliance or something. And these are statisticians that have a YouTube channel that have looked at all of the swing states and found some anomalies in data. And these are people who sit in crunch numbers all the time. And I think there is a tendency on the democratic side because Trump, 2020, he's still to this day. They rigged it. They rigged it. So we're like, we can't say anything. But to your point, Ashley, the richest man in the world who paid $300 million for access to Trump, who said, if Kamala won, he was probably going to prison. Those are his words. Even Joe Rogan, who was totally inside the desk star, said, yeah, Elon was like, he won hours before. Hours before it was announced. He did it. He won. He probably seen that clip of Joe Rogan.

19:30It's not conspiratorial to ask or as technology has moved at such a laser light speed around us so quickly every single day to ask the questions. What does he mean by all this? Yes. That is completely fair. And you don't even have to make the jump and say, oh, it was used for this. It was used for that. The first thing should be an inquiry to make sure that the people who are involved in our elections with hundreds of millions of dollars are doing things the right way. And that is a completely fair inquiry that for some reason they have a greater version to. Well, and was he hacked into voting machines that he was able to get earlier access than the associated press? I don't know the right question. I don't know that it's that. They've said that they've claimed they were not connected to vote tabulation. And if we're to take that, the issue is, remember how big of a scandal, Cambridge Analytica was? Yes. That was purely on data. And that was not OK what they did. And so when you take someone who has such an instrumentable

20:31amount of data with this orbital infrastructure and the behavioral inference model of the X and has all of these cameras all over, that is terrifying. The way in which you are able to build profiles on the average person, on the average voter, the way in which you used your money and you told me I'm going to make men vote, they just need a carrot, and then you announce your million dollar prize. These are all things that are should have inquiry. I completely agree with you. I completely agree with you. And I think that people that believe in what they believe welcome inquiry. Scientists always welcome it. We want, if you think our data is wrong, we want the facts. Let's prove it. Religious people don't want questions asked. Cultush people don't want questions asked. And that's the entire point that Alex Gibney does in the film. He poses the question, what is this guy doing? And he culminates it in a really fantastic way

21:34that builds up if he doesn't like the film. There's so much of the film that is actually just Elon's own words. He actually made an AI recreation of Elon because Elon wouldn't sit down for the film. So he's actually saying his own words that they took from every interview he's ever done. And so he's also, in a way, participating in this film and giving his point of view on every claim that's being made. What do you think his reaction? Because he's already starting to spiral. He's calling you evil and all this stupid childlike stuff. And this is a 40, 50-year-old man sitting here trying to pick fight with people in Twitter. It's just juvenile. What do you think he's going to do? Because we already seem spiraling. And I think he's been spiraling forever. But this is going to exacerbate it. When this thing drops, I mean, this is like back in the day, Michael Moore made a documentary called Fair and Height 9-11. And it just eviscerated the Bush administration. And I hated the Bush administration. I couldn't fucking stand them.

22:34They brought it, took a lie, took everybody to the Iraq war, all that stuff. And it was so satisfying to watch that documentary because it was the truth. And I imagine that this is going to have those same vibes, those resistance vibes that Michael Moore's Fair and Height 9-11. Very similar where it's all this culmination. And again, it's not just people like me who, if you want to discredit me, whatever, and say I'm scorned, I'm with cause. But you know, there's also NASA administrators. There's Jeffrey Hinton. There are respectable individuals who are in this, his co-founders at Tesla at SpaceX. It's not just me and the baby mamas that are doing this. These are people who interacted with him from his earliest days back in the PayPal days, back in the, you know, when he was changing the narrative around Tesla and suing to be called the founder of Tesla. There are so many people within this documentary that I think that's why they're freaking out a little bit is that it is really hard to come away from that

23:38with a different conclusion than there needs to be inquiry here. Do you feel like this documentary, number one, exposes a lot of the facade that Elon has built around his online aura? And number two, do you think this documentary plays culturally with where we are right now as a huge resistance guardrail? Yes, and it's, it was difficult really at times because I've been saying the things I have, but there's this part of you, I don't want to be right. Like this is the time where you don't want to be right, especially when it's so close to home. But to see these things, particularly the section on USAID and like I said, autopilot and full self-driving, it's rough. There's also inquiry into the EV credits and how they built that. And I think Gibney does a really fantastic job of really showing everyone how he got to where he is now

24:41and what that implication is for everyone else. And so the real question is, what is anyone going to do afterwards? Is there going to be inquiry or people going to push their legislators to do something about this, to have some sort of inquiry? I think it's going to be really difficult for people to walk away from this film and not have that feeling. Does the director go into his upbringing in South Africa? Elon Stad is in the film. What? Earl's in the film. Of course he is. He's like a big ol' grandstander with me. But so, oh my God. And so many people say that, you know, I got this question at the Venice Film Festival, you know, about oh, his traumatic childhood. And I said, yeah, he talks about it a lot privately and publicly, however, there's so many people who are watching this who've had traumatic, maybe even horrific childhoods, who don't try to take over the world, who don't do these things, who don't take USAID from millions of people, who don't cover up full self-driving deaths

25:41or whatever this is. That's, so they go into it a little bit, but I think it's more fascinating the way that Gimni explores how he became what he is now. Did they talk about his entrance into America and sketchy immigration status before he became a citizen of that covered? Not too much, not too much. It's more just how he built these things, especially there's a lot of narrative control that I think people were not aware of, the way in which Elon tried to control narratives very early on, even in his PayPal days and the zip two days. And Gimni does a really fantastic job of going into that. And I cannot thank him enough. There were so many people who spoke to him as well that were terrified and didn't want to be on film, but there's so many people and the way in which he harmonizes all of the narratives from all very different people, I think, is 10 stars.

26:46Okay, one of Elon's biggest vendors is Katie Miller. Which is the whole, that whole thing is so weird to me. Did you see what just came out of her? No. She's holding like a million dollars in stocks at XAI. That surprises me, Zebra. And she doesn't disclose this as she's going on tirades. I think she made like what was it? 400 tweets against other LLMs, against open AI, against Claude and she's holding stuff. I can fit that in with all the greats anatomy she's been phishing. But anyway, she's pathetic. She's really pathetic. She was the one also running cover for this film, for this documentary, when she's never seen it. She was putting out tweets saying it's a hit piece. Well, how do you know? You've never seen it. Her defense of him is always struck me, it's really weird. And then when he appeared on her podcast, which I referred to as a fireside chats with Nazi, that's my title of it, Katie and Elon. Her energy towards him was something that I was just like, what is going on here? Like, she's going to be like,

27:46exactly what that is, because she looked like me when I was on Hassan's stream. That is pick me, that is pick me energy. I know exactly what that is. That's okay, but anyway, she's, some new reporting is coming out about her this week, pop this up. This may have been the story you just revealed. Yeah, so this is for months, Katie Miller has denounced chat GPT, Claude Jim and I, and nearly 500 posts, this is what she just said. She did not tell her followers that she holds a more than $1 million stake, and their top competitor, Elon mess XI. So knowing how you know Elon, and how he likes to, it sounds like purchase speech. I'm not saying that Katie Miller has done this or anything, but it seems to me like he's really controlling this person through the means that he has, and you're saying that he likes to control and silence and meld people into what they are. This is pretty terrifying stuff that the amount of power

28:50that Stephen Miller has over the immigration issue, AKA human rights abuses in this power, and that Katie Miller seems to quite enjoy those things. And then Elon Musk at the same time, just it's just like a really disturbing flight of ideas on his Twitter feed of just dehumanizing people over and over and over. What do you, what do you make about that whole thing? I think it's just cruelty. I think they enjoy the cruelty. I think it's very sick. I think it's, you know, hurt people, hurt people on steroids. Yeah. And I just find it very pathetic. And once I got off Twitter, it's not real life. These people live in an echo chamber, like a Nazi cesspool is what X has become. And it's so gross, which sucks, because I used to really like Twitter, but they've just completely destroyed it. And it's what they did to get there, even the takeover of Twitter, and the way in which they did that, and getting rid of trust and safety,

29:51and getting rid of all of these people, was horrific. Those were real people that they just destroyed and were so cruel to, and for what? And I think the platform 10 times worse, and so that everyone sees your tweets. What exactly are you doing here? What do you think this exposure of Elon and his path to what a lot of people just think, oh, he must be smart. He must be so, got his shit together. Elon Musk is an incredible guy. This cultural problem that America has, where we worship rich people over all other people. And we attribute things to them, like intelligence or genius status that truly they haven't earned, simply because of their net worth. And it sounds to me like this documentarian does a really good job taking that mask off. And when people like this get exposed, I think psychologists call it a narcissistic injury,

30:53and they tend to spiral. You have actually spent alone time with Elon Musk. What does he do when he sees somebody tweet something unfavorable about him, or a news narrative is unfavorable about him? It takes up his whole day. He pretends like it doesn't, and he'll say he doesn't read these things, but he does, and he reads his comments, and he's going back and forth with the engineers of his tweets aren't getting enough likes. Like my account is broken. Something needs to change. He wants to rig it. Yeah, I mean, he really needs validation to an extent. But the issue is that the facts are not on his side. I set this at the Film Festival premiere, but he has complicated relationships generally, but his most complicated relationship is with the truth. And so it's very difficult for him to be confronted with that and have the consequences of his actions bear fruit. I think it's really scary that we have someone

31:56in control of a platform like Twitter, who is just in my opinion so unstable. I know he said, Sanity's not my strong suit. You know, so tweeted that. But I don't think anyone watching this would come away with that opinion. I think very few people think that Elon Musk is saying, I think once you get, like you said, if you get into this Twitter make-believe world, where people are fighting about all this shit online and all the keyboard warriors, but what's so remarkable about somebody like Elon Musk, and then let me go ahead and add like Mark Zuckerberg or Tim Cook, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The people that had the most power when an authoritarian, autocratic style, strong man is elected to say, I'm gonna sit this out. I'm not down with that shit. I want nothing to do with this. Capitulated first. Yes. And what an indictment, what an indictment on having it all,

32:57that it breaks you somehow, that you go and bend the knee first. You have all this fuck you money, and you cannot say fuck you. You're mean to immigrants, and I don't like that shit. Yeah, I'm sitting this out. You're old, you're only gonna be in office for four years, try to make my life hell sue me. I'll see you in court, MFR. These men that support Trump, Ashley, at their core, unmasked, are just pussies. Yes. And they're very broken. And they're very insecure and back to your point about how we kind of equate capital and money with morality or some sort of intelligence, which is ridiculous, or that they're deserving of a trillion dollars, a billion dollars, even a billion dollars, a hundred million dollars, because of some perceived intelligence that's questionable. Einstein was an attrillionaire. He didn't need to, Einstein didn't need to be a trillionaire to make the contributions he did. This is this backwards societal conclusion that we've come to in very recent years that's been catastrophic for us.

33:58How do they? And when you look at that inauguration and you see Elon, you see Mark Zuckerberg, you see Jeff Bezos, you see all of these people who just are like, this is our chance, this is our last chance to secure a future. Like they needed a chance. And the thing is, I've been speaking about them for almost a decade, even when I was in Maca. I spoke against the tech billionaires. I spoke against big tech. I said we need big tech accountability. And so this is not some conclusion that I've just come to because I'm upset with Elon. This has been festering the amount of control that these people have in the name of private corporations even though they wouldn't be where they're at without the help of the government. That's why they're standing right there in inauguration. Because if they were capable of doing that without siphoning our money, without siphoning things from the American people, why are they at the inauguration? Exactly. That was to me. But I had Ruth bin Giot. We should all go to dinner with her tonight. She's a historian and professor at NYU and a writer of the book Strongman. And she said, you see this with autocrats.

34:59The elites go and kiss the ring first. And that's when she knew like, oh, this Trump 2 point is going to be different. That's what they did with Putin. The elites and the oligarchs went and kissed Putin's ring. And then guess what happens to him? They start falling out of windows. They get poisoned from a dinner. They had the night before. And I always just say these white men need to learn the white, the Mike Pence lesson. Mike Pence was a good boy. He was a good Republican. He turned his corner on the teachy, turned his eye on the teachings of Jesus and did all of Trump's dirty work and defended him vociferously. So Chris Jennings, Republican, he had that part. He called his wife mother. And he wouldn't cheat for him in the very last minute. Trump was fine with his supporters saying, hang Mike Pence. And it's just like, you think you're so special. You don't think at some point, Bezos, that Trump's not going to go, it's ridiculous. You have all that money. I should have sanctioned you a long time ago. I want a piece of Amazon. Because that's what's coming next for all of these guys.

36:01But Elon, when we talk about AI, there's been this crazy shit going on this week. And I know you've seen it because you're very good at covering AI stuff. That the robots are probably going to kill us. And Elon made these comments about the future AI last week. Let's play the clip. I can make the robots. The robots will start manufacturing the robots. So you get a recursive effect. So it starts off very slowly, but then it grows at an explosive rate. So if you say like 10 years from now, I would say there are well over a billion humanoid robots. And the productivity per robot will be probably five times that of a human. So what I'm hearing here when I hear this is the robots are going to take the jobs that they want that money. They want the wages.

37:02Yeah. And I would be careful listening to Elon because he's the one who didn't know the difference between a permutation and a combination when he was fighting with a chess.com employee. But so I, you know, that's like basic level statistics and math. But he, that is exactly right. It's that they want to replace the workers. They were very upset when we said, hey, actually, you guys can't own slaves anymore. And you're going to have to pay people a living wage. You're going to have to do all these things. And now they're like, OK, well, we'll build them. We will build the slaves. And we actually don't need you. And that's what's happening. And they speak about this. It is actually a marketing tactic from the top level for them to say that AI is inevitable. It's not. OK, we still control that. We saw here in New York, so Ron said, no AI in the schools up until a certain grade. We're not doing this. And we have the power to do that. We don't have to accept their conclusion that AI is inevitable. There's a great website. I can't remember what it's called. But it tracks which AI's have cured cancer.

38:03And the number zero for all of them, OK, because they're not actually contributing anything meaningful right now. We're just getting AI slop and children undressed and garbage. It is not as useful as people are saying that it is in this whole narrative that if we don't do it, China is going to do it. Frankly, I trust China more than us at this point. But it's just not going to happen. It is a fairy tale that they're selling us, the same with the fairy tale about going to Mars, the same with all of these other fairy tales. It's just we have the power to reject that. We absolutely do. Just like you had the power to reject that NDA. And I just respect the hell out of you for that. And I just I think your story is so important and your integrity restored. And as a friend of mine, I'm just thank you so much for coming on and tell my listeners how they can follow you and where when this documentary is coming out, the date.

39:04The documentary is going to come out. It's titled Musk. It'll be out on October 16th. And I don't ask that you follow me. I ask that you just go watch it. It's four hours. It's very long, but it is well worth it. There is, if you can watch the honesty, you can watch this. It's much more meaningful. So I encourage everyone to watch it when it's out in theaters. And to fight back in your local community, you don't have to accept their narrative that all of this is inevitable. I completely reacts. It's always a pleasure. Quezer.