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Ep 1417 | Prophecy! The Exact Time of the Coming of God's Kingdom Revealed

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Zach’s bizarre dream about getting canceled for his beliefs takes an unexpected Phil Robertson turn and launches the guys into a deep dive through Daniel, Revelation, and the kingdom of God. Al, Jase, and Zach trace an ancient timeline that may pinpoint the exact timing of God’s kingdom and make a prophecy of their own. The guys wrestle with the identity of the fourth man in the fire, why ego can blind people to truth, and challenge one of the biggest assumptions Christians make about the end times. In this episode: Hebrews 10:19, 22, 35; Daniel 2; Daniel 3; Daniel 7; Acts 17; John 2; Matthew 16:13-19; Hebrews 12:27-29; Colossians 1; Revelation 1:1, 5-9, 13; Revelation 17:3, 9-14; Revelation 21; Ephesians 2; 1 John 3; Mark 3; Mark 10; Hebrews 2:14; Colossians 2; Romans; 1 Peter 2 Want to watch the Lost Episodes of Unashamed, only on EKKL? Get 20% off with code UNASHAMED, and watch faith- and family-friendly movies, podcasts, and more: https://ekkl.com/ “Unashamed” Episode 1416 is sponsored by: https://duckstamp.com/unashamed - Get your digital duck stamp online and keep it right on your phone! Taking care of your health just got easier - start here with Zocdoc: https://zocdoc.com/UNASHAMED #sponsored https://myphdweightloss.com - Find out how Al lost 80+ pounds. Visit the website or call 864-644-1900 and mention "Al Robertson" to get 2 weeks free in the program! https://cozyearth.com/unashamed - Get up to 20% off when you use our link and code UNASHAMED! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ - Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters 00:00 Zach’s Dream About Getting Canceled 05:06 Daniel, the Fiery Furnace &Faith Under Pressure 10:22 Nebuchadnezzar Misses the Point 15:48 The Kingdom That Can Never Be Destroyed 19:37 Jesus Fulfills Daniel’s Ancient Prophecy 26:19 Has the Kingdom of God Already Arrived? 32:42 Daniel & Revelation Tell the Same Story 40:18 Why the End Times Debate Matters 46:11 Jesus Defeated the Powers of Evil 51:32 Christians Are Already Part of the Kingdom - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I am on a change. What about you? I had a dream last night. Oh, I did. You did a dream? It was so vivid in the dream. And I thought, it's when you know you don't want to podcast. And I thought I cannot wait to tell the guys about what just happened. But in my dream, I was like, they're going to, this is, I mean, this is just good material right here for the people. And I woke up and I was like, man, it was just a dream. But I had a dream, Jason. Well, well, get in. Can you take an interpreter? So here was the dream. Somehow, I don't know if it's because I've been thinking about, you know, going on the road with the kids, don't know you're on interpretation before you. So that's how it's learned. That's interpret. And then come on, Nebuchadnezzar, just tell us the tell us. I'll tell you the dream. You tell me what it made. So I'm on a, I'm on like a panel. It's like I'm singing in front of these people. It's like a show like like American Idol or the voice.

And so I'm auditioning for the show. Well, then I do the audition and then they start playing all these videos of things that I said on this podcast or like controversial things. And they're like, and they're all laughing and snickering at me. The whole time they're laughing at me, they're snickering and they're like, and they're like, there's no way we can put you on this show. I mean, look at what you believe. Like you're not like this is like you've said things that are worthy of you being cancelled. And they're just like coming after me. And something came over me in the whole right there. Just I mean, I, and I remember feeling so intimidated and all of a sudden something snapped at me and I stood up and I said, let me tell you something. I said, I know for a fact that there are some of you in here right now that you're, you're wondering what is it all for? And I just started giving them the gospel. And three of them began to weep in the dream. And they come to Christ and the dream is the weird. And I was like, oh, and the guys hear about this. And then I woke up and I was like, oh, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's just a dream.

So that was a dream. Can I get my interpretation, Jason, and then you give your, yeah. So mine's real simple. You dreamed you were dad. I think I was still. Because that's it. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I mean, that's what that's what happened to dad. He's, he's on a show. He's on television. They dug up all this stuff. He said and showed old videos and tried to cancel him. And all he did was keep preaching. So that's my interpretation. You turned into Phil in your dream. Well, my interpretation at three points kind of like, uh, he's already built with three points. I'm in that pretty good, man. So you got a three point sermon that quick. That's impressive. I got it. You're singing. You, you, you lack confidence because everybody has told you in the family that you can sing. But you kept on that when he first said, your kids grew up to do great things and you're, you feel like the odd man out. So I would say, 1035 of Hebrews, don't throw away your confidence.

That's great. You need confidence. So the, the second thing was all, all the dumb things you've said is created a guilty conscience. Okay. So you have a confidence problem and a guilty conscience problem. 1022. But I'm not just, I'm telling you what it means. That's good. I'm receiving it. So, uh, you know, we, we, verse 19 starts off with that same thing. Confidence because I think this was a reflection of a lack of confidence. Because even though people have told you, boy, you just, you got it. It just never happened for you. Because I've even noticed when we come together as a family, sometimes I'm like, less sing a song and, you know, the typical people who can sing. Well, great idea. But it's actually, well, I don't know. He, he, he, he, I'm like, if I could sing like you, I'd be singing on a street corner. So he starts off in 19 since we have confidence to enter the most holy place by the new way. So these are points with tax. Okay.

Maybe more. Verse 22, this is where you got to say, you're, let us draw near to God with a sense of their heart and full assurance. Notice the pattern here. Confidence, full assurance of faith. Heaven, our heart sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience. So I think in that moment, those things came out. But you, you get in the end, you got it right. Because when in doubt, when you're struggling with confidence or guilty conscience, just praise Jesus and you're like, okay, I'm in on the greatest. I'm a new creation. So there you go. What was the third point? The new creation. Okay. So I, and they all started with C. Yeah. That's not that that's where I went. That's what the dream. That was a reflection of trying to deal with the old yeah, and revealing the need. I received that. I want to, I want to, I want to almost say thank you, Daniel, because I feel like you're, you're stepping into the Daniel here. We watched the film, Daniel. Did you all watch it, by the way?

I did watch it. I have been a little bit too busy. I have not seen it yet, which is kind of ironic, because I preached a sermon on it. The weekend, Maddie, sent it to me. I still haven't watched it. Was it good? I had a shock. Well, I thought it was great. I think people who watch it probably won't realize that it's in the Bible. Well, I thought myself, yeah, I thought myself when I preached from that text from Daniel three, trying to visualize it. So I'm excited to see the movie because, you know, what is it look like when I was a kid and the story was told to me in Bible class, I always imagine like this big see-through, like, you know, plexiglass, which obviously is not true, but in my mind is a kid, where someone can watch this going on and you're seeing them walk around in the, because you know, it's hard for me to imagine. And then when I was researching it, it was like, no, it's probably some big pit, you know, out there that they could have a view and post. I don't know how it's reflected in the Bible. That's why I used to, I think when people did Christian movies,

you know, about Jesus, they didn't, they just kind of went into the default mode of, let's not try to offend it, anybody. So it came across as a little bit stiff. Yeah, and they had a Jesus not portrayed like the way he looked as an Israelite. Yeah. It was everything was, ooh, and everything was done decently in order. But you know, when they try to start doing movies that are a little more realistic to the culture and things get weird, because you remember that, that movie about Noah that came out? Yeah. And I was so excited to see it. Then I saw it and I was like, that's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. You know, because it had weird things in the, in the era of that, the Bible. So it was hard to put that into it. I was fixed, say, look, the story's pretty weird. Yeah. That's one thing. Because you start trying, like, even when, you know, you take the creation story, and it's like, I've always, I never really had a problem,

because I'm thinking, well, he's just kind of giving us the hot points. Because I think if you just read it, trying to make sense of it like a movie, you're like, where are all these kids, you know, Adam and Eve, well then the kids, well then they start having families. So obviously there were a lot of stories we're not privy to. Well, that's what I think. But most people think, well, who, who is they married? Who is Cain's wife. And then you kind of have a backup verse when you get to act 17, because Paul famously says from one man, all men were made. Yeah. You're like, well, I guess that, that, this fork and these forks in the trees. But you think that logic would jump in here and say, if everything came from two people, what we later call incest, because God says we got enough people, we don't need to do that, that that would have to be how it happened. My whole point for saying all this is even like this movie, it's a story we're very familiar with.

It's called, it's called, it was Daniel and the Ferry Furnace. Yeah. Daniel and the Ferry Furnace. Could you have this, this vision from Daniel to, and Daniel seven, which the most talked about issue by Jesus is the kingdom or among the top three. I mean, maybe believe it in the sun or what concept you want to make with that, with deliverance salvation. But the kingdom is right up there at the top on what Jesus discussed. And so you go back to Daniel seven and you're like, there was a prophecy saying there would be a king come from these nations through history, which is where I went in my sermon last Sunday was the, I took, I started Daniel three because I was the theme for these, which is an amazing verse that they said, even if he doesn't deliver us, we're not going to bow down to worship you. This is what these three guys told the king.

So the thing was, the Almighty will deliver us, but even if he doesn't, we're not going to follow you. Yeah. Which is an amazing statement of faith. Yeah. You know, remember we had Mercy me on, but because they sang that song right in the end. Now there's a movie out. It's an incredible story. And what I thought they'd really did a good job is because Nebuchadnezzar, of course, one, you know, we had a supernatural occurrence in that Daniel actually knew his dream, which is brilliant on Nebuchadnezzar's part because he has a dream and he goes to his people in the magicians, the whatever. He's got a whole courtful of people. And they're like, well, tell us the dream. Like we just did was that. And then we'll tell you what it meant. And then he's like, no, no, no, if you're the real deal, you'll tell me what I did. So if I was that, if I would have told you the dream, then he would have been get to the war. But what shows you when you chase miracles modern day, you got to be careful because Nebuchadnezzar, he knew that came from God. Then when he heard the dream, he thought, oh, he views me as a great leader because there were

these four nations that would rise up and make this statue. He never got past that. No, speaking of Daniel, here's the deal. So the movie, by the way, is going to come out on the Apple platform, EKKL, which is the company that will in Kornai, or part of it's a new streaming platform. It's more than just a streaming service guys. I just want to remind you on this, we got movies like the new Daniel movie coming out. We've got series podcast, Daily Devotials. This podcast, you can get ad free, no ads along with a lot of other podcasts that we're adding on as well. And we've got something super special for you all that I told you about you yet, check them out, you need to, which are the original 12 unashamed podcasts that we've never released before. These are vintage fill. So you guys go check them out. No one's ever seen them before. They're really good. But again, you get this podcast ad free. All you have to do is go to echo.com. That's EKKL.com. Check it out. You guys will get 20% off of one year subscription with the code on a shame. That's EKKL.com code on a shame.

So Jay, it's one of the things I think we love about duck hunting is the communal nature of having people in the blind. It's different than other kind of hunting because you basically do it together, kind of as a crew. And you get a different crew pretty much every day. Well, you're getting a commune with the creator of the universe because we consider these ducks gifts from God, but it's also with each other because there's a responsibility for us to preserve what God has given us and to take care of it. And we've realized that some of the best mornings happen when you're sitting together in a duck line, get that hot cup of coffee and that mist out on the water. And those memories passed out from one generation to the next. The Federal Ducks Stamp helps make sure that our kids and grandkids still have those opportunities waiting for them. Since 1934, hunters have helped conserve millions of acres of wetlands simply by purchasing the stamp that's already required for waterfile hunting. You can get yours online at duckstamp.com and you can carry the digital version with you on your phone throughout the

entire season. You get the collectible physical stamp in the mail in the spring. So make some of those great memories. It's one of those rare things that's good for hunters, good for conservation and also good for the future. Visit duckstamp.com and get yours today. That's duckstamp.com. His statue was all gold and all him. Yeah, exactly. He took that dream and he thought, well, I'm sure God's chosen person here for this time. And he, he instead of saying, I'm so humbled that there's such a great God. He, he, he, he, the pride he showed you too. Jay's what happens when you put it on yourself in a situation like that of a king because he, you're right, he builds the statue. He tells everybody to bow down to, he had just taken Daniel and Shadrath Meesha and Beto and elevated them to these high positions because they were of God and he knew it. Yeah. And then he turns right around and says, come back and says, well,

they won't bow down this statue. Okay, they're all going in the fire. And I thought how they kind of read between the lines, which I'm sure people like, because it's like, well, how do you get to that point? So then the, they, they wanted to trap them by saying, well, you have to bow the knee to King Nebuchadnezzar since you've revealed this. They're like, oh, no, we're, we're bound the need of God only. Yeah. Which led to the, the furnace. And all of a sudden, a guest shows up in the furnace and they come out unharmed. Just think about doing a movie on that. I think people who don't know their story in the world, they watch that. This is the craziest thing I've ever, ever seen. Who comes up with this stuff? What's actually in the Bible? And it's very powerful. And I'll believe it to be true. I think there was a day on our planet one day where they, some guys got thrown into furnace and they didn't burn up. Yeah. And three turned in four. Yeah. So, well, now I, I, I told it on the Dolly episode we talked about with the Johnny Cash saying a song

called the fourth man on the fire. And it was really great because it was about this idea. It was interesting because I talked to, to Perky about it afterwards. I, I, one of our worship leaders that are charging because he said there's a lot of, we sang a song that morning about the fourth man on the fire. And he was asked me about whether I thought it was actually Jesus or not because it says the Son of the gods is the way it's translated. But the word, he law, could be Son of God or Son of God. So I just threw it out there. But I was trying to do, because I don't know. I mean, but I, I, I had put, positive the theory that it could have been or it could not have been. I don't know. So, because Perky doesn't believe it is. We're going down our, yeah. Have it hold that old, encompass the entire podcast. Exactly. My personal feeling is it was some, some, manifestation of Jesus. Well, I said it could go either way. And I didn't, you know, say, definitely for sure. And so Perky asked him about it. I said, Perky, I don't really know. I think it could be, and we've talked about it for on the podcast, because you and I concur. There are some

other instances that pop up in the Old Testament. They're similar. It's a strange manifestation. Seems like more than just an angel. But anyway, I only did it. When it says the angel of the Lord in the burning bush and all that, I think that's Jesus before he, because I think it's very possible. So, so I went to, but I went from that. The reason I did it was because if it is, if it was, it would make perfect sense that the whole reason that these men, these four men in particular, and there were others, but especially the four we saw kind of zero in on, were so strong was because of that dream in Acts two, I mean, Acts two, in Daniel two. And then later, his vision in Daniel seven, Zach, which is the son of man, between the two points, there's no doubt they understood better than anybody else that something big was coming and that they had been given the picture of it. And you're in your ego. Here's the thing that's interesting. Your ego can be so powerful that you miss the whole story of the kingdom. So you go, like that, start with the Daniel two passage.

I mean, he's interpreting the dream for King Naviconezer. And he says, and too, so as a dream was, he had the dream of a statue. This is before he builds a statue. So it's kind of weird, right? It's a dream of a statue. And so Daniel's giving him the interpretation of, hey, here's what, here's what the statue means. And the statue had four different materials that it was made out of. And he tells him where he sits in that statue in verse 38. He said, of chapter two, he says, you are the head of gold. So the Babylonian Empire was the head of the statue of the gold statue, the part that he missed was right before that. He says, as you look, this stone was cut out by no human hand and struck the image, the statue on its feet, of iron and clay. And it broke them into pieces. And when the iron, then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold altogether, broken into pieces and became like the shaft

of the summer, thrashing floors and the wind carried them away. This is like, the picture here is like, yeah, the statue just gets obliterate about it. So whatever stones cut out of a mountain that was not cut by the hands of men, I could just came out and it hit the statue and it, I mean, just obliterated it so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth. By the way, that is the temple of God. And so he said, what is the temple of God? Well, Jesus tells us, destroy this temple. I'll rebuild it in three days, speaking of his body, John chapter two. So when you, when you get into the testament, you start to read about Christ as the cornerstone of the of the entire temple. That's the image here of Daniel too. We read this in Nebuchadnezzar in his own ego, all he heard to your point you said earlier, all he heard was goldhead. That's me. He missed the whole point. Yeah. But it turns into like, shaft and it takes

me back to the exit of the story when they made the golden calf and they worshipped it and you do you remember what what Moses did when he with with that golden calf? He grounded up and it just dushed and he threw it in the river. It's kind of that image like these idols, these earthly kingdoms, this whole man-made structure that you think is the center of the world. God's like, nah, there's going to be some, there's going to be a stone cut out of a mountain, how much Jesus and that stone's going to roll down. He's going to hit that Roman empire, which is the clay and the bronze and then the whole history, the whole human history of the monarchs and the power structures. They all get obliterated and then there's a kingdom that's set up in those days that won't be shaken or destroyed. But he missed it. He missed the warning because of his own ego. He did and Zach, I went from there since Son of God and Son of Man are referenced both in the context of this, you know, situation because of Daniel, you got Son of Man mentioned,

but also the Son of God or Son of God. In Matthew 16 is when the actual prophecy really gets fulfilled because remember it says in 1613, this is the confession of Simon in verse 13, that when Jesus came to the region of Cessaria, Philippi, and I hadn't really noticed that before until I preached this sermon, that that was the Roman seat of power in Israel. That's where that's where Pontius Pilate had were set up and that was a little Roman enclave in Israel. He just happened to be there when he asked his disciples, who do people say the Son of Man is direct reference back to Daniel 7. They replied some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, others Jeremiah, one of the prophets, what about you? Who do you say I am? Simon Peter answered you are on the Messiah, the Son of the living God. So he answers, who is the Son of Man by you are the Son of God? So they're there both in one. And Jesus replies blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by

flesh and blood, but by my father in heaven. I tell you the truth, the Europeader, Petros on this rock, this confession, Son of God, Son of Man, I will build my church and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. There's that idea of the fire again. It cannot overcome. And the defensive posture is the gates of hell. The defensive posture is not the kingdom. The kingdom is like steam rolling forward and the idea is there that the gates of hell can't stop its advancement. So when you look going back to the Son of Man reference is actually how you're seeing how Christ reigns in dominion is king. But he's also that cornerstone moment. And that's why when you look at verse 34, Daniel 2, it says as you look to stone, let's cut out the mountain by no human hand. And I love in Hebrews 12 when the Hebrew writer is sort of summing all that up. Remember, he's just been talking about the faith and of all these people and how it all comes to this place. And then he says, you have come to Mount Zion, the heavenly

Jerusalem. He talks about that rock that your time at that mountain filled the whole earth. And he ends that section. And then he tells you what I was in the kingdom. Then he says at the end, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful and so worship God. So there's your worship is to God, not to the false with reverence and all. And then catch this for our God is a consuming fire. And I made the point that how can evil ideologies or narcissistic kings burn us up when we're already set on fire by the kingdom of God for who he is? That's why those guys were able to walk in there without fear because whether they burned up or not, they were living in the will of God. And the greatest protection we have from evil is to live in God's will and to do what he wants us to do. And when you see the kingdom of God, that's what you see. That you see that power. I just love that picture of what living water does in these situations, which is very, very powerful. All right, I'm at that age guys now where it's time for me to get a colonoscopy, which is a

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Zockbock.com slash on a shame to get started and check that appointment off your to-do list. That's zo c d o c dot com slash on a shame. I think it's fascinating that what we don't talk about is when you read that Daniel 7, I mean he explains it in Daniel 2, the 14 of the New Year's to Daniel 7, he elaborates. And we always read 13, 14 because it's quoted all over the place in the New Testament. But so is the rest of the speech and the interpretation. When he says in verse 13 of Daniel 7, in my vision at night, I looked and there before me was like a son of man, which would be the most quoted reference of how Jesus described himself when he got here. We talked about that when we went to John. Then it says, coming with the cloud of heaven, he approached the ancient of days and was led

into his presence. So thank John 14, 316, his ascension. He was given authority, glory, sovereign power, all people's nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is never lasting dominion that will not pass away in his kingdom as one that will never be destroyed. Cannot be shaken. So when Daniel then goes into the interpretation in verse 16, the second part, it says, so he told me and gave me the interpretation of these things. The four great beasts or four kingdoms that will rise from the earth. Now the other three are named somewhere as you know, that goes in with history. We just, Rome has never mentioned like in the Old Testament. But it's assumed because like, well, here comes the son of man. He's going to set up the kingdom. Well, here comes Jesus calling himself the son of man. And what's he talking about? Every other word is like the kingdom is at hand. And that that translation calls as people problems because it's

like or near. It's it's among you because the king has showed up to do this. That's the big, I think that's the divide right there in the church is and it's not expressly like said like this, but the question is, is the kingdom has the kingdom of God arrived or is it purely something that's going to happen in the future? And I guess like a later understanding or I said, interesting, a later invention of the end times would say that the kingdom is going to come later. But when you read a verse to your point, I think echoes that it's already here in the New Testament, which this language echoes Daniel because it has that same language and Hebrews 12, it says the phrase, so basically we, we belong to a kingdom that can't be shaken or destroyed. He said, I'll shake the, I'll shake not only the earth, but also the heavens is at the end of Hebrews 12 verse 27. This phrase,

yet once more, it indicates the removal of the things that are shaken, that is, things that have been made in order that things that cannot be shaken or remain. Therefore, let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that can't be shaken. So the way that and it also has that consuming fire as well, but the idea and what the Hebrew writers say in this, we've received the kingdom. Is it fully here? No, but the kingdom has arrived and goes back to the Daniel passage in verse 44 of 2. It says, in the days of those kings, what kings? The ones he just talked about, which you argued is that last one, the Roman Empire, in the days of those kings, those days, when and those days, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed nor shall the kingdom be left to another people. So the idea here in the scripture is not, we're sitting there waiting on it, one day, one day we're

going to have another kingdom. Another kingdom of God has come. And it tells us right here in verse 45, just as you saw that a stone was cut out from the mountain by no human hand, and then it broken the pieces, the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold. A great God has made it known to the king what shall be after this, this stream is certain, and its interpretation. The stone that came out, the Bible says that it is the kingdom. The Christ brought the kingdom with him when the stone cut out the mountain and demolished everything. Now, and one of the things I want to mention, Jason, when you were talking about Rome and having the history of being able to look back now, remember Daniel said it would be the reason it was made partly of iron and partly of clay is because it was a divided kingdom. And from our study, we did an early Christianity. We realized exactly how powerful Rome was, but how divided they were, because they had 500 years of unified rule under the Roman Empire, which encompassed the time that Jesus came on the earth. Remember, they were divided

kingdom them for 1000 years after that. I mean, you went a long time as the eastern flank of the Roman Empire, but they were around 1500 years, at least in part. So that's how that's the iron part of it. But the clay part is they still were divided because remember all the turmoil we read on the early centuries and the up and down with the Romans and eventually turned to Christianity later. But all these things were happening in the venture. They were wiped out around around 50 or 14 something that finally wiped out and smashed even in a physical sense. But this was a powerful group of people. And yet the kingdom of God established itself far before, you know, when Jesus came and was there through that whole process and even saved civilization on many times because of the nature. So that was predicted by death. What he was talking about when he said this great last fourth one would be made because of their division with one another, but we actually saw it play out in history. So I mean, to me, it's so clear that that's exactly who was talking about

and not something in the future. Well, I was getting your old comments, but I was fixing to illustrate what you both just said because after as he's interpreting this dream, I don't know why we could read this because he goes on to say exactly what you just got through saying. So in verse 17 of Daniel 7, he says this, the four great beasts or four kingdoms that will rise, but I want you to know something in verse 18, but the saints of the most high will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever. Yes, that means forever and ever. That's literally what it says. He doubles down. Well, it seems like there's two things that happen. The kingdom will be received by the saints and you say, what is the saints? And if you look, it's the language of Holy One's set apart. So think

of the eclicism. The eclicism. The eclicism. The eclicism. All the new testament times where it's like we're either called the saints, you know, the same English word or the holy we're a holy priesthood. We've been brought into the kingdom of light. I think that's Colossians 1. You know, we were darkness. We've been brought into the kingdom of light. So you receive it and then you possess it forever and ever. So watch what he goes on to say then. He then says, then I wanted to know the true meaning of the fourth beast, which is what we're talking about, which we believe is wrong, which was different from all the others, most terrifying iron teeth, bronze claws, the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot, whatever it was. I also wanted to know about the 10 horns on its head and about the other horn that came before which three of them failed. The horn that looked more imposing than the others that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. Now, when

I started reading that, your eyes glazed over and you thought, this just got weird. We just went to a some movie. But if I just stopped right here before, well, let me read the next verse 21, as I watched this horn, it was waging war against, well, here's this word again, the saints, the holy ones that the New Testament is filled with. So if I just stopped right there before I keep reading, if you turn to Revelation 1, we're way beyond this dream interpretation. Jesus has come talking about the kingdom. And then in Revelation 1, you see we have a revelation of Jesus, verse 1. And verse 5, it says, and from Jesus Christ who is the faithful witness, the first born from the dead and the ruler of the kings of the earth. Then it says to him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, he has

made us to be, he has made us to be a kingdom and priest to serve his God in glory. Now look, then he quotes Daniel 713. This is in Revelation 1 7. It is an exact quote. Look, he is coming with clouds and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be. I think I know what this is talking about. It is a literal quote. But look, here's John having this dream. I'm seeing a theme here and we did not plan this even though I guess it looks like it. Here's John having this dream. And it says, I John, verse 9 of Revelation 1, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in

Jesus. So he's now using this kingdom like I'm suffering for this thing that I'm a part of and that I possess. Well, here in this dream in verse 13, look what he sees among the lamps down as he's dreaming. He sees someone like a son of man dressed in a row reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash. And what I'm projecting is this dream is a reality. This is true reality. There's one who was here that died was buried and raised. He was in essence the fulfillment of this prophecy, which was God in human form. And now man, he's shining light. Something that's almost indescribable. And John and his dreams date sees this. I remember it well. I hit the 40s and man, all of a sudden just couldn't get that weight off like I used to could. I had started worry about weight. I tried fad diets, you know, I even tried the

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can go to myphdweightloss.com. And the only difference really is the timing because Daniel's looking ahead to this fourth kingdom that's being described and John is speaking and having this dream at the heart and the height of the kingdom. So I want to finish this because you said, well, what was all this stuff about the 10 horns and what was well in Revelation 17. You get to Revelation 17. I'm going to read this. It says, now he's still in this dream like states in this stuff, verse 3 of 17, the angel carried me away in the spirit and the dead. So here we go. And he looks up and he sees this beast that was covered with blasphemous name and had seven heads and 10 horns. Well, he goes into detail about this and you will notice that when I get to verse 9, which if you want to go to where we were supposed to be, which was in James, he says,

this calls for a mind with wisdom. But he says, the seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. If you go to Rome and start doing a geographical survey, you're going to find that that is consistent with what we're discussing here. They had seven hills on. So and I've done that before. They are also seven kings. Five have fallen. One is the other is not yet come, but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. The beast who once was and now is not it not is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven is going to his destruction. The 10 horns you saw this verse 12 of chapter 17 are 10 kings who have not yet received a kingdom. But who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. They have one purpose and will give their power to authority the beast. Here's what I want to get to verse 14. They will make war against the lamb. Well, who's that? That's

the king who was the son of man that starts off in Revelation 1. Can you get the things? And if you don't know what's going to happen, they're going to lose because here's why. But the lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and king of kings. And with him will be his called chosen saints and faithful followers. This is not rocket science to me. But you hear zero sermons about this. I'm not even average intelligent. I'm below average. But I know how to go to Daniel 7. And I'm keep reading the interpretation of the dream. And then I get through Revelation. And I think, oh, okay. This played out in history. And this play this played out. This has happened. Yeah. Well, not just not just the, well, even it plays out in every way, even going back again to this idea

of a stone that is cut out from the from no human hand that breaks into the to the world. The kingdom of God breaking in. It crushes the statue. And those days God sets up the kingdom. They can't be shaken or destroyed. And it talks a whole lot about the stone fast forward to Jesus becoming the cornerstone. Right. And then Jesus has, I'm going to be the temple and fast forward to mark 13 where he says, yeah, this temple's coming down because he's going to be the temple fast forward to the end of the Bible where you have the the new city, the new, the new Jerusalem. And they looking around and the whole revelation 21 is like, man, ain't no temple here. Why? Because the lamb himself will be the temple. And so it's like this complete seamless thing. And I do think that when you get into topics of like the book of Revelation, for example, or eschatology, people say, it doesn't matter. And it does matter. I mean, it does matter because here's why matters. If the kingdom of God has not come yet

and we're still waiting on it, then what it like what it this it's almost like we're doing the world is like the world's going to hell in a hand basket. But one day, you know, one day it's going to all be read. It's that it gets it disrespects God's plan. This was the plan. Yeah. We got a book. It's inspired by God. It's the he's breathed these scriptures. And as much as we're adamant about whatever our doctrinal position is on whatever we're like, that's what it says. We get to this. And it's just like whatever you want to make up is fine with me because it doesn't matter to to your point. And I believe I want to say this. It just popped into my head. The temple of the living God played out in Revelation as members of this eternal kingdom has become the template for all kings that would then come after Rome who take on the king of kings and his people.

Right. They're going to lose. That's why people go to Revelation to try to make sense of America. And you see always is Islam the anti-Christ. And I hear this almost every day from someone. It's great. That knows it. Well, I'm not clicking on anything. It's just somebody telling me that that they they clicked on it and they're telling me about it. And I'm like, you missed it. It's all here. There was a dream. There was an interpretation. Then there's history to prove out what would happen in the interpretation of the dream. And then he doubles down. And in Revelation shows you in picture form how this spiritual warfare played out, which would then become a template for any nation or any king or any president or any any kind of power that's going to take on incahutes with the evil one. The Lord God, they're going to lose. Hey, listen to this first. Listen to this first. And you tell me what this says about the nature of the temple or the stone.

We'll call it the stone. This is the same stone that came out. This is in Daniel 2. The stone that came out that was not cut out by human hands. It came out and crushes the statue. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth. What what what do you what is what's weird about that is how does a stone how does well you think of a mountain. Do you think of a mountain that's growing? It doesn't even make sense like like stones are like in an animal objects. They don't grow. They're not living. They don't expand like that is the thing like you read that thing. What is he talking about? You get to apostle Paul. He tells you in the Ephesians that Christ is the cornerstone. And then we are living stones. Well, living stones living stones that are growing into a temple of the living God. So the idea of the of the temple and this was about all the way back to Eden. This is why the US catalog. Yes, to match up

with with with with Eden. Eden the the goal of Eden was not build build a fence around it and maintain it. The goal was to expand it to cultivate the earth and have dominion ever take the first temple and expand it across the whole globe. That's the prophecy here in Daniel. And guess what? If you are a Christian, if you are in Christ, your body houses the Holy Spirit. You are one of the stones of this growing mountain of God that will fill the entire cosmos. The temple is ever expanding. That is the teaching of the New Testament. So guys, we had a little bridal shower, not we as in we, I mean Jill, for someone in the church. And guess what? She brought, bought them as a gift. A shot good. Oh, she's smart. She bought cozy earth. See, that's exactly right. She bought them the cozy earth bubble cuddle blanket because at our house, that's been so popular that anyone comes that anyone that comes to our house or like, I want one of those cozy earth. It's all about making

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That's why we should, that name, remember I told you that I keep getting invited to this new non-denominational kind of, it's a group of churches, but they out, they have these, these little catchy names, you know, brand new and we're now got another one, the Roland Stone. The Roland Stone. No apology to the band. They're not the Roland Stones. Because if you go out into the world, that stone's coming down to Hill and you better get out of the way or get on board because it's going to be, well, one thing is interesting, Zach, so you summed it up beautifully because the stone that is the, has always been the crusher of all Gentile kingdoms because even going back to the people, God, they kept rising up and no matter even the Egyptians at one time were world. So even in the old powers, the people got always rose up, always rose up, he kept rising them up, but their fulfillment was waiting for the Messiah. Now,

most of them missed him in the moment, but that's why he said it's first to you. That's why this idea about now, physical country of Israel because we still got one. And everybody's still looking to that strip of land over there saying, yeah, that country is the one, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that all that, the people of God were fulfilled in the Messiah. You can't miss that. And look, they had the first opportunity to come to Christ. That's why Jesus Paul said first to the Jew then to the Gentile, but the Gentiles have never had sway over the kingdom of God was always. Well, that's where all this confusion starts off with, you know, the chosen ones and in Romans and you know, there's no one good. We're all, we're all sinners because he was more talking about Jews and Gentiles coming together. Correct. Us being the new Jerusalem ones, that quoted that he brews 12, which is beautiful. Yeah. But most people, it did not register when you read them. Because they're still waiting for the news. Ion were the heavenly Jerusalem. They're thinking

about a place across the ocean. That's right. They don't, they don't understand the concept. And even like using the word elect, they don't understand that when when Christ defeated the power of the Eve one, which is non-existent in most of our churches. That whole rabbit hole of, thank First John 3. Because everybody I've ever asked about that, they're like, what does that mean? When he says, Jesus came here to destroy the work of the devil. Yeah. First John, what is it? 3, 10 I think. Yeah. And you're like, what? And even think about in Mark 3, what he's like, you had to bind the strong man because he said if Satan is divided against himself, how can he stand? Yeah. And you're like, what's he talking about, binding the strong man? Well, the strong man's the evil one. That's right. He's like, you got to go in there. I must defeat him. Yeah. So then later when you get to

Mark 10 and he said, I gave my life as a ransom. Well, people go to the courtroom setting there. And there he is. John paints that picture about our sins needing to be forgiven, which is all true. Jesus is blood, you know, purchased the idea of an advocate. But think about the ransom after he said in Mark 3 about having to tie up the Eve one, destroy the him, think he bruised 2, 14, who has the power of death. He's going to defeat him. And I think that's a key thing because when you think of ransom, you're like, well, if so somebody has abducted a group of people and I'm going to give a ransom. So why? So they can be free. And that's a, that's a angle. And in the whole spiritual warfare that happened on the cross and the resurrection, there's just not discussed. It's just cricket. Thank Colossians 2. Remember when he's like, through his death, he nailed the cross, cancelled the

death. Then the next phrase says he made a public spectacle of all these spiritual forces of evil. So he defeated them. So my point is for bringing that up, when you go back to Daniel 7, I didn't finish the interpretation. I want to finish it because it lines up exactly with revelation. Let's see. What did I leave off on to read this? 21, 7, 21. As I way watched this horn, which I just read about in Revelation 17 was waging war against the saints and defeating them. What happened to Rome and Christians? And just think of all the revelation language about the martyrs and the blood of the saints. They overcame him by the word of their testimony and the blood of the lamb. It was like 200 years old. Yeah, it was 200 years of that. Yeah. Until the ancient of days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints. Well, that happened. We had the destruction of the temple in 8070. And then you had Rome fall eventually. And then Christ became the state religion. 300. Yeah.

Of the most high. And the time came when look at this, when they possessed the kingdom, well, has that time come? Well, it better had or Daniel's interpretation would be wrong. So you know, with this is the time of Rome, once you read Revelation, and now this interpretation is making way more sense, he gave me this explanation. The fourth, this is 23 of Daniel 7. The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. I'll guarantee you that that kingdom appeared on earth. Where else the battle is not true? Yeah. It will be different from all the other kingdoms than would devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushed it. Well, what happened when Rome was in charge? They were in charge. They devoured and they crushed everything that come in its way. They've seen 100 years. The 10 horns are the 10 kings who will come from this kingdom. I just read it in Revelation 17. After then, another king will arise different than the early ones. He

will subdue these kings. He was speaking against the most high and oppressed who were back to those who are in Christ and try to change the set times and the laws. Here we go again. The same same people will be handed over times and times again, but the court will sit and his power be taken away and completely destroyed forever. That's wrong. Their power was completely dismantled and destroyed for how long forever. Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints. Come on. Those in Christ, the people of the most high, his kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom and all rulers will worship and obey him. This is the end of the matter. I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts and my face turned pale,

but I keep the matter to myself. So if I'm in the world, have we missed it? Dad, we're here if that's so done or dad in the moment, he would say, I mean, look at Rome now. pizzas and shotguns. That's what we get. I just, I can't for the life of me after reading this whole thing, which we didn't have plan. Can't get in their heads that you were part of the greatest thing that could ever be on earth. You're part of it. You're it. And people are, oh, no, no, no. Prophecy prophecy revealed we have now established the exact time that the kingdom of God would come. That's a big deal. It came, we're in it and look, it's going to get better because this template that repeats itself, you're like, yeah, but people are dying. Oh, yeah, they're coming back. So it is a now, not yet kind of frame of mind because now that's why God would say things through Jesus

to him all our lives. You can't kill them. So just like you couldn't kill him. That's why the same template is playing out. You will be resurrected from the dead. That's why this weekend, we were spread out across different places. You, me, Zach, talking about what the kingdom of God, how to get in it, how to overcome. Peter's not going to be at the pearly gate. He's going to be in there with everybody else. The gates already been open. Come through surrender, bow the need of Jesus and be a part of the greatest kingdom on earth. It will crush all other kings. Come from Zach's dream to the ultimate dream. We just covered it on Onesame. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening to the Onesame podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple podcast and don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.

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