Ep. 927: Brent's Manitoba Moose Hunt | 12 in '26

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1:00This is the I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human Descriptions, pictures, and more. Start your adventure with a seven day free trial and experience the difference. Download on X off road today and elevate your off-roading experience. We've been traveling for two days. We're 154 kilometers from Thompson, Canada. We're going to stay the night in the morning. I'm going to catch up. Float playing out with Craig McCarthy with Northbound adventures.

2:04And we're going to see if we can get a moose. Hymned up here in Northern Manitoba. It's a very remote place. It is as wild as wild gets in North America. Hard to believe that this is really taking place. And I don't know if I'll fully realize it until we get in camp. But I'm a long way from home. What you just saw was a clip from Hunting Bull Moose in Manitoba, my 12 and 26 film sponsored by Multree and Onax. And what we're doing now is the companion podcast that's going to answer some questions and maybe show some things that that didn't wind up in the final cut. And I'm joined with my good friend Josh, Landbridge, Spielmaker. Well, I'm excited to be here, Brent. I really love the film. It was, it was, did a great job capturing not just the hunt, but all the surrounding things

3:04to go with it, the scenery, the comradery, everything about it. It was just, it was information overload for a little while. I'll say, I'll say, but we're, we're really excited to do this podcast because we've got some great questions from some of the viewers. And we're going to give you an opportunity just to, you know, it's hard to catch a, how long was the hunt total? Oh, man, we were there for like, I think the whole trip was like nine days. Okay, so it's hard to capture all that in 42 minutes. Correct. And so we're going to give you an opportunity just to tell us more than we could see in the film. But it's a pretty different kind of adventure for you. Yeah. And here in Arkansas, early on in your career, you spent a lot of time documenting other people's hunts. Yeah. And you kind of go into that in the film, but this time you're the, the guy carrying the rifle. So before we, we're going to, I've got a couple of questions for you before we, we kind of dive into it. Okay. How did this kind of come about?

4:06How did you get, how did you like, hey, I want to go to Manitoba and hunt? Man, it all started like February a year ago. Okay. And Garrett long my boss calls me and he says, we need to come up with an idea for a project. Some, some, some film projects that we're going to film throughout the year. And I need what's your dream hunt? And I'm like, I don't know. I'll think about it. Oh, I got it. I mean, it was just that that was how it went. I said, I want to go shoot a moose and in Northern Manitoba with Craig McCarthy. And now the response I was waiting here was like, how about we do something in Missouri? You know, a little closer to home. But Garrett's response was, okay, get ahold of Craig and let's start working out the details. And I'm like, so that again. And then from that, it just went from initial meetings with Craig and producer. And we just started getting the ball rolling and making a plan.

5:09And it came to fruition. That's incredible. Yeah. What was what was kind of different about you? You know, I know you filmed quite a bit in Canada, you know, not necessarily in Northern Manitoba. But you filmed a lot in Canada. How is it different preparing for this knowing that you were going to be the shooter? Well, to me, being a cinematographer which I don't claim to be, I was a cameraman and I think there's a difference, you know, but prepping myself to go film a hunt like that, I just had to get the mindset that I'm always working. Right. That, you know, the hunt is not when you leave, walk out the camp door or the tent or whatever gun in your hand. When you're there to document the whole hunt, that's all of it. So you know, you've got to be on the ready. You got to, you're the first guy up in the morning. You're the last guy to go to bed at night. You're the last, you're most of your meals are going to be cold because you're filming everybody else doing all that kind of stuff.

6:09So it is a totally different situation that you had to prepare for. You just got to get your mind right that if it don't happen on camera, then it didn't happen. Right. You know, that's the way you got to look at it. And I want to think I can't remember exactly Josh, but I think Dave Gardner shot like 20. Dave Gardner was your cameraman. He was the cameraman on this. It was me Dave Gardner and Craig McCarthy in this. Excuse me. Videoographer. Yeah, cinematographer. Cinematographer. A shot of Dave Nayer. Yeah, for real. And but I think it's like 26 hours of video or film that he shot, you know. And that condensed that down to 42 minutes. I mean, that's it's incredible, incredible. Well, that's awesome. Well, let's let's go ahead and dive into into another clip here. Okay. Man, the amount of stuff it takes to do this is monumental, especially if we're trying to document it and film like this.

7:23It's already going to be a good trip regardless. So a lot of folks ready to go. Me included. There are kids off. I'm big. I'm not seeing. Good to see you too. Great. That's a great clip. One of the things that I noticed right away was how remote this place was. Yeah. So, uh, like this is the world. What isこんな providers running straight on a lot? How is it going to be mine? No road road systems I mean you fly in. Live out a camp. And your boat becomes your primary way of getting around than the whole process that goes into loading these planes and getting everything off and? What, what were the logistical?

8:23What was the district of putting together hunt like this. this business and I learned it very early that you're either hunting or you're filming a hunt and that is two totally different things. If you're just hunting, you're just going to capture what you capture. If you're trying to tell a story, then you've got to film everything. So there's going to be equipment and batteries and camera batteries and stuff that are going to take the place maybe of clothes of other things that you want to bring. I want to bring XYZ, but you don't have room for it. You've got to make a choice between clean underwear and batteries. So batteries are going to win every time. You're just taking a bath in the creek and washing your clothes in the lake. And that kind of stuff goes into it. And it goes into the whole thought process of, okay, maybe I can wear a pair of bridges for three days. And I actually did a podcast about it when I came back about the things

9:24that I would have done different. And I took way too many clothes and I would take, I would cut that back and just, you know, washing the wash in the lake, rinse off, dry, let it air dry, and then go that route. But you really prioritize the things that you need to document. Because if you run out of lens wipes or if you run out of batteries or if you run out of, you know, your B cam, you got more than one camera there. If you run out of things to document, that, I mean, it's not, you don't, you don't call up FedEx and have them ship you another one in. We run down the best by. Yeah. Because, you know, from where we took off there in Thompson, we were in that flow plane for another two hours before. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. It was that, you know, not in a straight line. We went to several other camps and dropped some stuff off. But it was, you don't just, if you don't bring it, if you don't have it with you, you don't have it. Right. Right. So, and usually one is none and two is one. So you, usually you're doubling up. Right. So you could be sure that you have the necessities. Yeah. So one of the things that I know

10:28and love about you, Brent, is that you are, you really value relationships. Tell us how you met Craig. Oh, man, I went up on a bear hunt with Craig and his wife, Mel, and they're, they're placed in the amount. Yeah. No amount of adventures there. And I guess it's kind of in the bottom third amount of tuba there. And they're family. Craig, Melanie, Hayden and Kirsten, they're just, man, they are just an ideal outdoor family. They, they're, they're hosting that they have there. And the place they have to hunt is just beyond anything. They're just good down to earth people. So we hit it off, you know, right from, from the get good. The only, our only difference is, you know, we talk different and they have an accent and I don't. But we just became good friends. And then when this opportunity came up to be able to go on a moose hunt, there was one guy that I wanted to do it with. Yeah. And that, that's how it happened. That's really cool. That's really cool. So when you're, when you're this remote, you said you're

11:33out there for nine days. What is a, what does the typical day look like when you're out there hunting? Well, hunting moose, man, you, you get up pretty early. I mean, it's not like a duck hunt where you're two hours before daylight. You get up right before daylight and kind of get a bite to eat. And you let the, you want to get some daylight where you can, you can see the shore, you know, when, when you leave the camp, you get out and you go in and we're going to different spots along the shore. And if weather's right and it's, and, and you can see, you know, you, you may be able, you may spot a moose before you ever set up the call one. Now we didn't, we didn't see them the first two or three days we were there. So we would just go to different spots along the lake and call. And we'd set it into one spot and I talked to, even in the film, you, I'm talking to Craig about it. You know, ask him how long he likes to stay in one spot after we do a call. And it's, right. I would think, you know, 45 minutes or, but he's like, no, two hours. And it's the way those,

12:36those bulls react to a call. It's just so slow and methodical. I mean, they can hear it a long ways, but they're usually not just, okay, I hear cow come running over there. No, he's just going to start easing his way that way. And he may be a mile away from it or more. Right. And just start easing his way. And we were there what time, what time of year? That was in late September. Okay. Is that, is that like peak for the rut? I think it's the kind of toward the end of it. Okay. Because everybody, we were the last hunt for that, for Craig's outfit up there. His father's outfit up there. So in any time I was talking to someone and they'd say, oh, you're going to, when you're going to hunt this moose and I'd say, oh, we're leaving. I think it was like the 18th or 19th of January, September or something like that. And they're like, oh, you're going late. I'm like, galley, it seems early. Yeah. But you've taken to account the weather up there. And in October is opposed to how it is down here. I know it. There's quite a difference. So it was

13:42a tail end of the rut, but bulls were really active. And as you can see, it paid off. Yeah. So you traveled with your rifle on several different airplanes. There's a scene in the, in the, in the film where you want to go, just check your zero on it. Yeah. Why, what, a lot of questions about what, what, what rifle you were shooting, what caliber, and why was it important to you to check the zero? So a six-hour cross in 300 PRC, which was the largest round I've ever shot, you know, in a civilian rifle. And when I looked at it and I thought, you know, that's probably a moose round. But I cited him, my friend who lives here, not far from my house here, and he actually works for SIG. He's an engineer for SIG here at the, at their Arkansas ammunition plant, and Matt Burns, who's a competitive shooter and just, man, he's just so knowledgeable about it. So, but he's got a little range at his house. And we

14:44went there, I went there and, and cited that thing in. And the whole time we were traveling, you know, from playing to playing, I'm looking at the wind, and I'm watching them loads to, I'm like, that guy right there is not concerned, whether my rifle stays on zero or not. But we got, that was the first thing that I wanted to do once I got there. And you can actually in Canada, in Manitoba, that is, you can hunt the same day you fly in. Oh, okay. Long as you don't use that aircraft to, you know, spot anything, which we didn't see anything. But you can, it's legal to do that. So, soon as we got settled in camp, I mean, day push record, and we started, we started hunting right then. Awesome. Awesome. Where, what distance did you have your rifle, zero to that? I cited it in. It was, I could shoot out 700 yards on, on a mass course. And we shot a hundred. If it's good at a hundred, Matt said it's good at 700, and I shot both at his house. And that was what we did there.

15:48Based on the ballistic calculator. Yeah. Based on all that, we did it there once we got into camp. And it was good to go. Awesome. Well, that's cool. Let's, uh, let's go ahead and hit this next clip. We talked about this earlier, and I've heard you explain it to other folks, or talking about going and calling, and then, like, at night, and then leaving and coming back to that spot. Is that more of us, like, putting bait out? Yeah, pretty much. Unless he's right there, he's not, you're not going to get him right away. But he could be two miles. And if it's dead calm, and he hears you, healed, and moves aren't fast, you know, when they're coming, he'll start grunting and slowly make his way there. So we leave in the morning. He's probably coming if he heard you. Right. And then when we go back in the afternoon or the next morning, he's probably, like, within a couple of hundred yards of where you were calling from. What's your picture? Perfect weather for calling, losing the rut. What

16:48are you, what are you looking for? Below zero temperatures and dead calm. Yeah, Celsius. Yeah. So 32 or under. Yeah. No one. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I don't, I don't want to be presumptuous here. Yeah. I've spent quite a bit of time practicing a turkey call and a duck call. Yeah. And don't claim to be good either one. Right. I think I could get that one down. I've got, man, I've got videos of folks with their kids blowing through a toilet toilet paper roll. Like, how's my moose calling it? It sounds good. And Greg will be the first to tell you. It's all you got to do with a minimal amount of practice to call one up. And it was

17:56the thing that got me so much is something I just keep beating the hair off of is it's like Mike Collins turkeys right now going back to camp, going to bed and getting up the next morning, going back and set my that tree and shooting him when he walks up. I mean, that is just so out of the, out of the ordinary. That's what I kept thinking about. I mean, it's pretty amazing that you put a call out. Yeah. And 12 hours later that Mrs. Yeah. Yeah. He's coming or 24 hours. When we would leave and there's something in there and I don't know if we're talking, if we're going to get to something that didn't make it into the film that I wish would have. If it's a good time to cover it now. But one afternoon and I can't remember now if it was the day after, I think it was a couple days after that I actually killed a bull. We were going down that

18:59river, the same river. And we just pulled up on the bank and and Craig made a call and then we went on fishing down the river. And as we left Dave's filming him and Craig says there'd be a bull here when we come back and we laughed Dave laughed. I laughed. Craig laughed. We went fishing. We came back and there was a bull there three hours later. Really? Yeah. We got some footage of him from the boat. And but I wish that would have made it in Craig saying that. But he, because I mean, you like, oh, this guy's got a USB. Oh, that's awesome. It was pretty, it was pretty funny. Were there ever any, you know, when you're throwing these cow calls out there? Was there ever any before you saw one respond to it like that? Was there any doubt in your mind that you're like, well, I mean, you trust the guy. I was a duck guy for so long that I knew not, if I've got a client with me, I'm not going to tell him something that's not true. You got to be honest. Because in the course

20:02of being in the wilderness, being outside dealing with nature, the truth is going to come out. Right. So I had to do nothing but trust what he said. And, you know, I would be thinking, oh, we need to get up in my mind. I'm thinking we should get up and move. Right. And the next thought would be I should pay attention to Craig because he does this for a little exactly. And that gets us wrong. He doesn't get paid. Right. Exactly. So I mean, it's, you never got the guy. And that's something I always keep in the forefront of what we're doing. And I'm trying to learn. I learned so much from, you know, being a turkey hunter or a white tail hunter, you got to be patient a lot of times, you know, but I learned patients from him up there, especially when you're making a call that could have an effect 24 hours later. Sure. That was, it was really cool to see. So Craig mentioned, you know, his ideal calling conditions were, you know, zero degrees Celsius, 30 degrees Fahrenheit, dead calm, why those conditions? Obviously, the dead calm makes sense. I think it's the sound carries.

21:06And it's, they seem to be active during that time, you know, with that temperature, they're most active. And obviously with the sound will go not just downwind, but in every direction. Now, was that from your first day hunting? That was. Okay. So first day was just calling weight. Yeah, calling weight. Okay. We got there that afternoon. We went over and across the lake. We never hunted that side of the lake again, because of the wind, we were facing into the wind there. And we were right on the edge. We had the lake right at the behind us, the edge. We were calling across that tundra or whatever technical term that is for that, that part of Canada there. And they had, you can see forever, but I mean, in that also, in that instance, I mean, you can see that the wide open country, but something big as a mouskin, just all of a sudden,

22:06to slip up on you, you know, so it was. Now, was this private land or public land? It's all public. It's all public land. And I'm not sure if it's native land or whatever they have a lease or whatever it is, but it's like a concession that they hunt up there. So I mean, they're the only folks out in that part. Like, give us an idea of how big of an area you were hunting. It's as big as the world is. It's as big as outside. I mean, there was thousands of acre miles of of what unnamed lakes and unnamed rivers and just wilderness, absolutely wilderness. And it from the time you left Thompson in that airplane, that float plane flying it little over 3000 feet, once, once those that sailed part of civilization got behind the aircraft, there was, I mean, there was nothing. And it looked like it went on for absolute ever. I've not spent much time in the Canadian wilderness like that, but that's what everybody says is,

23:10just it feels like you're, it feels like you are a million miles from home and really you are. Uninhabited planet. Absolutely. And you're smelling your breathing air. Then it's never just nobody's breathing. It hasn't got to Arkansas yet, but time gets to Arkansas. They've been folks have been breathing it all over the country than something that's been inside someone all over North America. And it's just a feeling. It's just all encompassing really. It's a little, it's, it's, if you like details and I love the details in places that I go and the small things, and it's over, it's, it's overwhelming. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Let's, let's hit the next clip. Okay. Normal on a foggy morning. I just lay up until the fog clears or? No. I think it's just,

24:14it depends where you are. If the bulls have cows with them or not. Okay. Tom Wu is hunting there. It's just like you could see nothing for days and then also there's moose. And over the place. Yeah. Fam in the feast. Yeah. It's just the way it goes. Oh lord, he's seeing something. Wait, I think I see a bull. Look up in the green over there. See up in the green? A pie? Definitely a moose. 100%. We're going in there. No. We got time.

25:15Oh, I see him. He's, he's still left to the tree down the way. I just stopped since seven minutes. Yeah, they just disappear. Now that was that the second day or was that? That's the first day there. The very first day. Yeah, we were coming back from where we were set up across the lake and saw that. He saw that moose. And it's hard to see it, man. I don't know that if you could even put a pause on it and zoom in on it on your phone or your computer wherever you're watching on and see that moose, but he was there and you can see the paddles on him and he had a cow up in there. Okay. And that spot right there were eventually I shot the moose from probably another 40, 50 yards around that bend down there where I found where we were sitting when I shot that moose. But something that impressed me about that was there's nobody within miles and miles and miles

26:22of where we are. And Craig says we got seven minutes. But in seven minutes, we were pack it up and gone. Yeah. At five minutes till when we didn't have anything close enough, we were unloading and just standing there watching just to see what would happen. And there's nobody that would have known. Yeah, but me and Craig and Dave, right. But it's by the book, man, I love it. Yeah, that's awesome. It's there. Just got to appreciate guys like that. Absolutely. I mean, the integrity is what stands out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. I can imagine cruising up and down the lake there. You're probably every brown spot is a moose. Yeah, I saw this. There's one stump. I tried to kill for six days up there that I kept seeing through those by nose. And I yes, got to be a moose. No, I still don't. What's a legal bull? Is there a is there a size requirement? I think it's got to have like four on the front, I believe. Okay. And then I'm not exactly sure. I mean, we talked about it discussing then I don't remember now what it was, but it was, it's just incredible to be in those

27:28places and be able to see that much, right? And know that, you know, behind how difficult was it to see one? Well, it turns out it got pretty easy. As long as we stayed there the more we saw. And but you just didn't see them like Craig's described. He said, man, we're allowed to come around according. They'll just be, you know, walking them down the bank, right way down there. You know, across the lake, you'll see them over there. No, when we start seeing them, we just rolled up on them and there they were. Really? Yeah, just as unconcerned with us. Over the course of the hunt, how many moose did you think you saw? Well, I think we saw five different bulls, including the one now been four bulls and then one that had the cow with it. Okay. Okay. Now that's including one of the bulls that I killed. Wow. I would have thought you would have seen more, but that's a pretty amazing to see those. Well, you saw what you see is where they were in fresh tracks and evidence of them. And

28:33you really got to play the wind up there, man, because I mean, one of the only creatures on the plants got a nose bigger than mine and it's dead. Mine, I'm not a creature. Me and you. And you got, if you don't play the wind right, they're gone. That's what I was wondering too, because was that something you had to manage? 100%. I mean, you looked the wind direction. We walked outside and we got in the boat determined 100% where we were going that day. And also the main thing is determined is where we weren't going to go. We're not going to go in there and just dust this area was sent when we know that there's moose in this and we'll wait until. Was it pretty windy when you were there? It times it was more than not. Okay. Okay. It's more than not. There was a couple storms that blew through and it was raining. I can remember. I can remember sitting in the in the cabin and we had a starling system up there so we could I called home when I was talking to my wife on the and it was just raining. Man, it's raining so hard. Water's coming in on the

29:39floor and we're picking stuff up and sending it on tables. I tell her I said it's coming a storm. There's water in here. My stuff's getting wet and I can't think of any place. I'd rather be right now than right here. It was just that much fun. Yeah. You know, so yeah, but there was windy. It was windy and it just played a lot but you really had to be smart about and just take your time. You know, it's not a it's a marathon, not a sprint. Right. And every day that every day that you there, you're learning more about the environment, more about what the moose are doing by the tracks we're seeing and just, you know, playing the hands that were dealt. Interesting. As you as Tybalyn on, you kind of picked it. There was a scene in there where you talked about is that a me you were asking him is that a moose and he's looking. He's like, I don't think so. And he said, it looks like two Eagles. What was it? It was two Eagles. Okay. Yeah, Eagles up there

30:41of our buzzing around like hummingbirds here. They're just everywhere. And it was way across the lake and they were setting close a far enough apart from each other or separated enough that you thought you resembled paddles. Right. Because that's what you're looking for. You know, Craig said, you gotta look for those paddles. You see the paddles and then you'll see the moose. So that was to my untrained eye. That's what I was looking for. And then we looked and saw, oh, that's those are Eagles there. Okay. And right after that is when we, I think first, yeah, we first got in there and saw where those moose were. Eventually where I would wind up killing one. Okay. All right. For me, it isn't really fall until the mornings get cold. The growl start flush. And Vellma starts coming off those buck antlers, garden season winds down. And I start getting really excited about getting my kids into the woods. If you are a Mountain Dew fan, it's also time for you to stock up. Your cooler was some doom for all the fall action born in the foothills of Tennessee. Mountain Dew

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33:50to the next clip. We've got a two-minuteer here and I think it's a good one. All everybody found a comfortable place on the log and said down we were like a bunch of crows sitting on the light line and I had my ballistics calculated out on my phone. I was ranging different places and just really passing the time because I didn't figure we were going to see anything until late and all of a sudden crakes and oh my gosh there's a bull. How far? That's a shooter, Brent. How far is it? 460. Wings right on pretty well. 2.3. You ready? Yeah.

35:00Hey, I'm shooting him again. Oh, he's hurt. Where's he at? He's his butt face in him. He turns one way or the other I've got him. I can poke a quarter in with his hard quarter. Pretty sure you hit him. There's no doubt. Get him again. He's going down. Here you go. He's going down. Oh, okay, it's him. Holy man. Weapons don't say. Oh, buddy. I think you put three in them. That's a good ball. I love it, man. I get to chills every time I watch that.

36:04Craig was so excited and I was so excited. It was uh, it was overwhelming. 100% overwhelming. That whole sequence there, when we got there, it was early. It's like 2.30, 3 o'clock in the afternoon. That's the same point you recognize from where we were the day before. When we got there, I said the wind's blowing and it's kind of warm. He said they're probably not going to start moving until later unless they're following a cow. He said, but it may be warm enough that they want to come get a drink of water to cool off. So we just set our stuff up. Got comfortable. Dave sat down with his camera. Craig sat right beside him and I sat down on the other end of this log and I've got that ballistics calculator out and I'm thinking, okay, if Craig calls out 500, I'm poking it right there and fine.

37:10I messed with that scope enough, Matt and gave me a crash course on it and we shot round after round after round and he's calling out different distances and I'm doping it in there. So I was very familiar with the process and was very comfortable with it. And so I'm just setting there good for nothing better to do than pass the time because Craig says, you know, you might see one, but it's probably going to be late when it kind of cools off. And then all of a sudden he jumps up and runs by me and says, there's a bull right there and he's a shooter. He's running back over here to get his by-nose and stuff. Dave gets his camera and stands up. I don't know what to do. So I just kind of run around in circles there for a second till Craig got back and we got on the gun and the rest of it was, you know, I mean, he saw it happen and when there was, he called out to distance to me twice.

38:10And because the first time he said, it's 460, well, I dialed it in and I said, how far? Because I get off the scope and I look and I can see him. Right. I was like, there's no way that thing's for him. It's way closer than that. He's because it's huge. I know I can see him and he said, 460 twice is what he said, 460 twice. I'll never forget it. Okay, I trust him. You know, I got back on the scope and when I turned it loose, it when I shot, I thought I'll be able to hear it hitting. I shouldn't be able to. And it seemed like it took forever. But, William, you can hear it. You and on the video, you could actually... I felt like I could hear it on the video. You could 100% you can. And then if you look, you can see it actually go through him and hit those splice of water on the other side. Okay. So he took the first round right in the ballroom on his shoulder on the right side and the other two. I wish we would have got a photograph of it. But the other two, you could have covered up with your

39:11fist. Really? I mean, right in the zero. Wow. And that's incredible. It was just like he didn't flinch. I mean, he just walked right up on the back and laid down and died. Man, it was incredible. It was incredible to see that just that huge animal. I was amazed at how little he moved after that first shot. Yeah. I mean, just like, he didn't know what hit him, but he wasn't too concerned about it at the moment. He just soaked it up, man. And he got two more. And he didn't limp. He didn't do anything. I mean, he only hit him. He moved. But as far as like shaking or anything like that, he just, he toted all three of them up. I just plumbed out of sight. Now, you spent many, many years in law enforcement working with SWAT. What's your background with firearms? Well, I was also a firearms instructor. Okay. I taught at the state SWAT school down at Camden when they would have special

40:15classes down there for SWAT personnel. So you're very familiar with long-range shooting, how to handle firearms. I somebody, we had a guy that commented, hey, I appreciate here and Brent, you know, full of excitement. But the first thing he says is weapon on safe. Oh, yeah. Just letting everybody know. Yeah. That's a that's a weapons instructor right there. Yeah, I think that's just a force to have it, which is a good habit to me. Absolutely. What were those feelings that when when Craig said, there's a bull. Man, it was just, I mean, the whole time, that whole hunt, I was thinking about how, you know, it's a grand adventure for sure. But it's also my work. There's a lot of responsibility to that encompasses my portion of it, you know, that's always why I talked about being the camera guy, you know, winner lose. Right. If the camera, if the camera's recording, I've got all the shots, whether or not the hunter misses or not. Right.

41:17Now I'm in front of it. Now it's all on me. Right. I know Dave's getting his part. Can I hold up my end of the bargain? And that's where the pressure comes from. And I mean, but it is part of the story. Had I missed him? Had I made a terrible shot? It had just been part of the story. Luckily, I did not put three good ones in him. And it was, it was absolute euphoria really. What when did you see it immediately when you came around the bushes? Where you like, oh, there it is. When when Craig said, there's a bull over there. And I'm sure you were full of adrenaline. Oh, yeah. We walked around those bushes. Did you immediately connect with them? Oh, yeah. I mean, we, you could see down the river where we were sitting. I didn't have to walk out. Okay. From where we were sitting when he when when Craig ran past me, fast enough to set the grass on fire. You know, I didn't know if it was something after him or what should I keep up with him or outrun Dave? Right. What's going on? And he said, there's a bull and, you know, a good bull right there. And I looked down there and immediately it was like it was like a painting.

42:21Wow. He's he's knee deep out in this river and just slowly walking out there and the sun shining on him and it's the water that the ripples are lit up from the sun. And this thing is it looks like a movie. I'm getting chills now, Josh. Just thinking about it. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. I mean, the sky was blue. It was it was absolutely unreal. It looked like it looked like a film. Wow. Wow. And when he said, four 60, you immediately went into I got to trust him. Yeah. My first thing was there's no way. But he said it's four 60. And I made him or I asked, you know, I'm how far I want him to, you know, to make sure that's what it is. Confirm. You know, and he confirmed it four 60 twice. And I'm like, well, that's how far he is. And I love that you kind of had more or less immediate feedback of whether that animal was down or not. I mean, it was clear he was going down. Well, I didn't see it that way. Okay.

43:27Craig says you got him. He's going down. And I'm like, bro, that thing was walking last time I saw it. Of course, Craig's looking at a lot of he's looking at right. He seemed moose move that are shot good. He's seen moose that are walking that are shot. Not good. Right. But I mean, his confidence was overwhelming, but it wasn't for Brent. Right. When he walked out of sight, far as I was concerned, that moose is still walking because you shoot a deer and you think, well, he's in trouble. You know, you can kind of tell. But I didn't know what to look for. And to me, it didn't like he was moving any faster or any slower than when he walked out before I ever shot him the first time. Okay. So did you wait or did you guys go immediately after 14 days? We waited right there and that's what it felt like. I think it was 25 minutes. Okay. Because I was checking my watch. Right. And we got in the boat and went down there. And I when he walked out of the river and walked up on the

44:28bank out of the river, he walked right past a rock that was sticking up. It was about the size of a basketball. But it was right on the edge of the bank, the flat bank where, and I think it was maybe two feet from the edge of the bank down to the water and just cut banks straight. And there's that rock was right there. So in my mind, when I saw him, I logged that in there and I think that's where that's the trail. I'll look and start looking for blood right there. Yeah. And we just started to float down there. Okay. And well, we've got it. We've got a next next clip coming up. So you sat there for 25 minutes. I can't imagine. Is the longest 25 minutes of my life. I can't imagine. Yeah. It was it was absolutely brutal. Well, let's let's watch this next clip here. He's laying right there right through here, Brent. Let's see the horn.

45:3915 feet. Oh my gosh. He's driving. What an absolute monster. I don't know what to say. It is incredible. Absolutely incredible. Beautiful front on him. There ain't nothing bad about him. Oh my gosh. I don't know what to say. I'm just thank you for the effort. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for your friendship, man. Thank you, guys. This is already a success. Absolutely. Can't believe it. I just can't get over how big they are, man. I mean, I've seen pictures of Steve, one Steve's killed, Clay and all. You see it. I've seen a G in pictures. I've seen

46:44even one of the child taking, but the body on these things is just the same. The day that I killed a moose, I was absolutely not prepared for what that was like. That adrenaline dump was unlike anything I have ever seen because I glanced down the river before I went back to get my rifle and I could see him standing in the river. It looked like a dinosaur. It looked like a school bus with antlers. It was huge. Awesome. I know expert on moose, but it looks like a big one. Man, I was looking the way he was moving when he stepped up out of the river, onto the bank. I just seen his high end going into the bushes. That was the end of it. I'm expecting this thing not to be where he was because he was literally 15 feet from the

47:50edge of the water. Really? Yeah. We literally walked off and just he walked up and just and laid down and was dead as a hammer when we got there. But I was looking past him. I was looking over him and Dave is sitting. If you can obviously see in the boat, Dave's camera man, he's sitting in front of the boat and he's facing back and shooting back towards me and Craig. I'm looking hard and Craig says, there he is. Well, I look over at Dave's face and he starts smiling. He looks back at the camera. Dave sees him. I know Dave's telling him, he's like, man, we got him. Craig's like, there he is. I'm like, no, he ain't. I can't see him. I cannot end this hunt until I can see this moose. I'm looking further. When he said 15 feet, I thought 15 feet and I looked down and there he was and the wide open. How I could not see that moose. I don't know. Most of the felt a tremendous sense of relief. Oh gosh. I mean, you can see it on

48:55your face. I mean, you kind of gasp a little bit there. Oh, I did. I 100% I did. That's one thing that I love about how we film these things. There's no way I could recreate it that. Right. If Dave hadn't a god, it wouldn't have gotten got. Right. But he did. And it really shows the raw emotion and just overwhelm and relief that what we came there to do, we did. So walking up on this animal expectations versus reality. I was not prepared. I have killed deer before. I have been after bears. And when you get to him, you like, man, he's good. He's nice. I thought he was bigger. I thought he'd be a little bigger. You know, and not no disappointment or anything like that. That thing got bigger. The long rest that there looked at it. It was not. I had no comprehension of it. I've seen moose one other time.

49:59And I was in Alaska. And it's all in my cross a bay. So he must have been a horse in the pastures. Right. You know, so I had the I was not prepared for how big they were. Any idea like how much that thing weighed? Craig estimated to be 12 to 1400 pounds. Holy smokes. I know that when we when we skimmed in processing, I brought all the meat back. We stopped in a Craig's cousin. I actually got a place in outside of Winnipeg. And we dropped a meat off there. But I brought the back straps home. Okay. And the back straps had two soft coolers. One of them weighed 51 pounds in the other one weighed my other one weighed 49. So I brought home with me a hundred pounds of backstrap of backstrap. Holy cow. Yeah, it was over 600 pounds of processed moose than me and my neighborhood and family and friends are still eating them.

51:00Not your friend Josh though. You will before you leave you. So what what you know, you could tell by the look on your face when you finally see it, just this massive sense of relief, excitement, elation, satisfaction, all wrapped up into one. When you walked up on it, what were the top three things that you thought when you walked up? I was just grateful. Yeah. And that is that the top three things that I felt was was grateful. Every all three other grateful grateful. I mean, it was from the opportunity that I have backed my way into for this career that I never would have dreamed of having to the people that made all that happen. You know, and it has been I pulled a trigger, but I had the easiest part. Right. You know, from everybody that that saw that film to the people that work in the retail

52:04stores and me that under this umbrella that we all work for, everybody plays a part in that. Yeah. And I'm grateful for every one of them. And it truly is a blessing to be the tip of the spear to tell these stories. And but it all it's all possible because of everybody behind the camera that they do everything. Yeah. And it was an absolute physical and literal thought of while I was there. You kind of immediately express your gratitude to Craig and and the other guys, why is that important to you? Oh, it's just important. This is never I love being the center of attention and talking to a room and entertaining a room full of people. But my least favorite subject is me. Right. I'm just I'm blessed to be where I am and have this platform. But I think it's it's not to tell Brent's story. It's to tell everybody's

53:06story. Right. You know, and everybody has a part. Everybody's got a story and everybody's story needs to be heard. And I enjoy telling my part of it. But my part of this story is just a part of it. Right. It's a lot of parts. And you know, everybody plays a part in it. That's one of the things I really I really appreciate about you Brent is just your sense of gratitude, appreciation, your humble guy and I and based on all the the comments that I've read on social media and YouTube, it's pretty obvious to everybody else. So I appreciate you being a being a model of that. So yeah, what's it like? Processing an animal that pig took us two and a half hours to get him skint and quartered up. Which is, you know, fairly quick for something that big and the pack out, like I said, man, was it was pick up below the meat, take four steps and load it in the boat.

54:08Right. I mean, it was just so easy. It was skinning the bear, skinning the deer, you know, times 10. Yeah. Easy as far as how we handled the meat, how it is to to skin one, you know, laying down. It's a lot easier skinned and moose laying on the ground. It is a deer to me. Oh, really? Yeah, I think so, just because it's it's so much bigger, got a bigger handheld. And between, you know, Dave did some film and then he set the camera up and he jumped in there with us. So it took three of us two and a half hours of solid skinning and cutting to get it wild, get it out and get it in the boat. Wow. And I'm not sure. I don't know what the next clip is, but um, the highlight of that whole thing or I wouldn't say the whole thing. One of the top highlights of it was when we got that moose back in the boat, we were headed back towards Kevin as probably a mile

55:12and a half, I think what time and day did you shoot it? Oh, it was probably three o'clock in the afternoon. Okay, so you guys are going. Yeah, it's late into the evening. It's late into the evening. Time we get there. So the time we get loaded and everything done scant. All the rib meat, neck me, everything cut off and loaded into the boat and left there. We had our headlights on in the boat and we start heading. We've got 20 minutes, you know, of motoring to get back to the cabin. I turned my Dave, of course, he didn't, he's filming. I turned my light out, Craig turns his light out and then it's too dark to film, but the our way is lit up by the northern lights and I was sitting in the back and Dave was sitting behind, was sitting right there beside me in the northern. You can see that moose, the moose antlers on the bow of that boat up there and then the northern lights up above it and that's how we what lit our way back from where we skimped that moose to our cabin

56:16and it was unreal. It was so the emotion was, I mean, it brought tears to my eyes how beautiful it was to be in that place in a place like that with two of my good friends and do something like that and share that with them. It was right. And overwhelming is a theme from the time I got there to the time I left and anytime I think about it and I'm not sure there has been a day go by that I hadn't thought about one portion of that trip or the other. I mean, that not to put it cheaply, but that sounds epic. It is. It was. It was, you know, outside of something with my children or grandchildren, it was the event of a lifetime for me. That's incredible. Is that the longest shot on game that you've ever taken? 100%. You know, growing up down here in South Arkansas, you have a scope on a rifle, but in any place, we were hunting the woods. I never had a shot more

57:23than 150 yards. And I like the bow hunt, so I hardly ever hunt with a rifle anyway. And so that was by far. And that's what was so important to me to be prepared when I got there is shooting with Matt and getting comfortable and dialed in with that scope and and changing distances that, you know, with a quick call out and swapping to different targets and putting the dope in the scope. And you mentioned dope a couple of times. Tell our listeners and viewers what that means. Well, it's just, you know, those scopes, they've got dials on them and turrets on them and they're numbered. And for wind and for wind and then elevation, you know, left and right and up and down, depending on what those factors are, you can put that into a what's called a dope calculator on your phone and app, you just put on your phone. And then if it's coincides with the turrets on the scope and it tells you where to dial them in,

58:26so that you're shooting for distance and wind correction. dope is a dope is an acronym for data on previous engagement. So you're using correct ballistics from a known target and, you know, based on your round and your rifle. Yes, the the velocity of that bullet. You can calculate if it's zero to 100, you can calculate how far you need to click for elevation. Yes, waste, waste smarter than me and it works really well. And though, like I said, you know, I made three good shots on that, but I had real good equipment and real good information working in there. Yeah, really all I did was control my try to control my breathing as you can hear in that clip. Yeah, try to sell down and you did a good job because I was like, well, Brent's huffing coming around that corner. And then I heard you just kind of calm down. And I just had to because he was dancing around in there like he was at a disco until I got it. What power scopes on there? Do you remember? Yeah, that is a it was a three by 18 by 50, I believe. Okay. Okay.

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1:02:44Your brother Tim's been a real fixture in your life. Yeah. Long as you can remember from the stories you told. Yeah. And that really comes through in the film and the time he invested in you mentoring you and hunting and as a brother and a friend and a hunting companion and that was pretty meaningful to you. What did Tim teach you that kind of came through in this hunt? Yeah. Man, he's taught me so much stuff that comes in my everyday life. He's probably the most forgiven person I know. And he is. He can look at a situation where I'm ready to grab a hammer and start tearing stuff up. And he's like just set back a minute. Let's reevaluate what we really need to do. There is no one on that I know or have ever heard of that has more integrity than than my brother. He's always doing the right thing whether it's the easiest thing when it's not

1:03:50the easiest thing. And he is an example of what a brother and a friend and a father is. And he is a good man. And I talked to him every day and I haven't talked to him today and it's absolutely driving me nuts because since you got here's another time that we called back and forth. So I'm ready to get out here. Josh. We can see if we could pipe him in. But he is. He is my buddy. You know, we're tight. What would how would that moment have been different if Tim had been there? It would have been. That's the only thing that would have made it better. I mean, I was literally. I would have loved have seen him do that. He is. He's the guy. He's eight years older than me. And when I was just little, he was taking me everywhere. And he decided when he was 16 and I was eight

1:04:53or 14 and I was four or six, you know, he's like, I want to grow up and be a trapper in Alaska. Me too. I want to do whatever he did. And I want him to put a track. If I wasn't putting a track in my dad's tracks, I was putting one in terms, you know. And everything that we just seem to be so close. And it would have been the culmination of all the things that I have been so blessed to do to be able to share that with him and watch him do that. That's the only thing that it made it better. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think there's been opportunities. You know, I've talked about on Beargreese just about I didn't grow up hunting and Clay and Nukum is the one who kind of taught me how to hunt and came a friend and a hunting mentor. How valuable is that to take younger people or people who haven't had that experience? It is. It's the only way we keep this

1:05:55going. That's how valuable it is. Yeah. You know, if it stops with one generation, it's done forever. You can go, it's easy to go back in count of generations that got us to this point, but the responsibilities on us now to keep it going and to show it to the next folks. And there's I have always said you share a tragedy with someone you can cut that sadness by 50%. You share joy with someone and it multiplies it. There's no end to the number that you can do the little multiply. And that's that's what we got to do. Yeah. And that's how valuable it is and how important it is. And we want to keep doing these kind of things and having these moments and sharing them, we got to share them. Yeah. And and share it sharing them with the folks that are not already exposed to it, get somebody else in a position to do the same thing. And it's it's it's vital. And as a kid, I probably never thought about that. Sure. As a young man,

1:07:01I didn't think about it as much. But now it's at the forefront of a lot of the things that I do. I think I think it has so many benefits, you know, relationally and, you know, just learning the sport and the ethics behind it. But even just basic health being outside, being in nature, being in the sun. I mean, yeah, there's so many benefits all the way around. And if you can take someone and teach him that and teach him the value of hunting ethically and harvesting organic meat. And I mean, it pays dividends. No, we were watching. We had a premier party. I actually saw the two rough drafts before the final version came out. And the final version, we waited until that night to watch it. I watched it over friends, vires, friends and family. We all gathered up at their huge television, you know, like a movie screen. And we watched it. But before we watched it, we we had Moose Chili. Oh nice. From that moose. That's awesome. And so it was that moose responsible,

1:08:07not only for the entertainment of the evening, but for feeding everybody at the table. Yeah. You know, so it was it was it was a very special day, a very special thing to see that come out. And to have the the story in there showing showing my dad and my brother, it was a special special moment. That's awesome. Let's let's move on to the next clip here. Thanks, Japh. And Moose Heart. That is the first combination of that I've ever had. Hmm. Ready? Matter of the so tender. Yeah. We got some back straps too. Yeah, there. I'll cook all the heart and then we'll tie into them. Well, now picnic tomorrow with all this meat we got.

1:09:08That's coming. It's good. Well, let's go catch a fish. Hey, yeah. Maybe some all-I for supper. Oh. Oh. We found one. Yeah, little fella. To get back out there. To your grandpa. There we go. That's a good. There he is. It'll be a little treat for supper tonight. I'm guessing him 15 pounds. Yeah, right on. Oh, I'm hurt. Don't you think?

1:10:1314 at least. My fish. I say how big you was. That's right. So, um, I'm a little jealous of that moose meat. It looked pretty tasty. Yeah. It was a heart good. Oh, fantastic. And I've eaten deer heart before. I had never eaten a bear heart, believe it or not. And I may, if I'm luck fortunate enough to get one this year, I'll try it. But that moose heart, there's some how big was that miss heart? Big as about like a about volleyball. Wow. Close to a volleyball. It was humongous. And I've got, I've got some photos of it, you know, of me holding it. And it's just unreal. How big that thing is. But we, we, uh, I brought, I mean, I had to bring some of it home. We were there for, I think four more days, three, four more days where we could and we ate from the time I killed that moose. That's what we ate. Moose and something. Every right from then on. And we still didn't eat all that heart.

1:11:13Really? Oh gosh. Yeah. It's wow. Absolutely. What did it taste like? I was expecting, and I like liver. I was expecting the texture of an organ like a like a gizzard or a liver. But it was just tender. It was absolutely tender. And it was, there was no people say, I'm not a fan of the phrase game. Right. Something tasting gaming. I mean, cream tastes like koon fish tastes like fish. Dirt tastes like deer meat, you know, beef tastes like beef. They compare everything to beef. But it's, I mean, it is what it is. There was no, there was no strong taste to it. Right. No iron tastes like you would kind of get what you eat with liver sometimes. You get kind of an iron taste to it. It was, um, it was just really good, man. And did it compare to any other game that you've had? Um, I don't know that I would be able to say, oh, that's Moose heart. Right. I took a bite

1:12:17and a blind taste test. It just tasted like good seasoned fried meat. For those who have never experienced it, what's the feeling of eating meat that you harvested that day? It's hard from that day. It just, it never gets better than that day. It's like fish, you know, I'm not a, a love fish. I'm not a big fan of eating trout. They don't just don't, I'm with you. They don't taste that good. Yeah. But you catch a trout and you cook it on the bank of the river. It's the best thing you've ever eaten. Yeah. And it's all got to do with environment where you are, you know, and who you're with experience. Yeah, the experience. Okay. Here's a big question. Friedfisher is. Man, I asked Craig that he said Moose and I probably have to tend to agree if it's fresh moose because of the environment, but you bait a trout with a fried fish and you will catch me every time. Did y'all, did y'all catch while I? We did. And that was one thing we didn't,

1:13:18Dave was changing out of battery or something and we just kept fishing. We're like Dave, you're on your own. We're fishing for fish for supper, buddy. And we didn't get that or it didn't make it into the film. But we did catch some while I was great eating. Oh gosh. Yeah. But the pike up there. I mean, that's the, we call it a jackfish right here. But the jackfish we eat down here. Ain't like those up there. That cold water, man. Good. Clean taste. It is so good. Yeah, it's great. Oh, that's awesome. So we've got a couple comments. I wanted to, comments and questions that I just want to kind of run by you here. Okay. Um, we have, I'm not going to try to say all of these names from people who made comments. But Aaron Song 3913 said, I heard that moose is the most tender meat. It doesn't matter how old they are or young. They taste very tender. I don't know how you think's taste tender. But the, was the backstrap tender? Yes, it was. And the longer it had, the longer

1:14:19we had it hanging in camp, the more tender it got. Did you leave it up the whole week? We did. We left it up for, I think we were there three more days after I killed that, okay. After I killed that moose. And again, what day did you kill it on? I forgot to ask that. It was like the second full day of hunting, but like the third day that we were there. Okay. And it was nice and cool there as old gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Um, Jordan Pallick. 9,000 four said only one question I got. Why are they put in quarter meat and a plastic bags? That was get it out of the boat across the sandy beach up to the place where we had it laid out to cool. It didn't stay in plastic bags. All right. Um, few more questions. Did you like that style or would you prefer spot and stock? You know, I would like to do the spot and stock. It would be hard to do that in that country there because of the limited visibility.

1:15:22But that's, I mean, that's going to be my favorite because it's the only way I've done it so far. I've been on one moose hunting trip and killed a moose. So that was, that would be my preferred. Would I like to try it? Absolutely. And I'd like to try it my next one with archery. Okay. Okay. Quinn Scott said, what's a big thing that you took from behind the camera to being on camera? That's a great question. I think one of the things that I learned the most was patience. Being a cameraman, you're always wanting to stretch that shot out as long as you can. You know, you think about a, like a white tail hunt. If you just showed the kill shot on a white tail hunt, like an archery hunt, that video would probably be, it'd be stretching to do 30 seconds. Right. You know, from start to finish, from the time you see him and there's a cameraman, you're wanting to milk that time out to be able to tell that story. So I think patience is,

1:16:28is an extra sense of, of patience would be what I took from behind the camera to him from. Because I'm, I'm thinking about it, but I'm also thinking about what Dave's looking, right, looking at, you know, am I giving him time to get set and everything? Because he's, I mean, he's a professional. He's, he's two steps ahead of me where I'm at on, on that part. But it is conscious in my mind, especially if you're filming a hunt, the, the time that it takes to get it right. Right. Okay. Great answer. You know, you've, you've had that moose meat quite a while now. Ethan Kenley said, what's your favorite recipe you've made with your moose meat? Man, we ground, we have a bunch of it in burger. We have made meatloaf and tacos and burgers and everything you can imagine, but probably my favorite is probably chili. Okay. The chili is good. The steaks are great. I'm not saying the steaks aren't good. They are

1:17:30absolutely fantastic. You chunk it up like into stew meat? No, it's, or you grind it grind it, like ground like burger. Okay. But we did have some stew meat done and I've done recipes with that. And I gave a buddy of mine a try tip and he fixed it and all for that moose and he said it was unbelievably good. And after he told me that I thought, thank, I shouldn't have gave it to but it was, it's been really good. There's been no way that we have fixed it that hadn't been good. And literally anything that you would do with beef or deer meat you can do with this. Okay. It's really good. Broad question here. But we got a comment that says, well, what's the best part about moose hunting? I can only, I can only attest to this trip because I've only been once. I was never a cameraman on another moose hunt. I mean, this is my experience. And the best part about

1:18:33it was being there sharing it with my friends. It was, you know, on I go bow hunting, I'm usually by myself and listen to a film event and I come back and I'm like, man, Josh, I wish you'd have been there. Yeah. And saw this. You know, it may have something not even anything to do with the moose. It may have been two squirrels fighting to fill out a tree. But on that hunt and to this, to this very moment right now, I can pick up my phone and text Dave or Craig and say, hey, remember when this happened, you know, how cool was that? So I think that's probably my best part. Absolutely. Well, we've got one more, we've got one more clip here we want to show. I hope no one asked which had a bigger effect on me, the moose or the lights. The answer might surprise them. Quick clip. But the Northern lights, you talked about there in that clip, don't, if someone were to ask, yeah, tell us what that meant to you. Like,

1:19:41what, what did it do? You talked about the being on the boat and seeing that and that being your, your life that you follow the home back to camp. But it clearly did something to you. You know, from a little, when I was a little boy, I was reading adventure stories from in seventh grade, I was reading Peter Hathaway Capstick, you know, death in the long grass about big game hunting in Africa. And before that, I was reading Jack London and adventure stories in Alaska. And they talk about the Northern lights. And to me, that would have been as foreign as listening to Neil Armstrong talk about walking on the moon, something that I would never have dreamt I would have got to see. And that has been over a lifetime, you know, I'm 60 years old. And I've been thinking about that since I was 10. And then to be there and to look at it with my eyes, there is no way Dave's camera could capture all the things that went into that. And it was an easy answer for me. The Northern

1:20:49lights were a bigger had a bigger impact on me than that moose did because I will eat that moose and it'll be gone. And then there will be no more moose. But those lights will be in me forever. And it was amazing to sit there and think that the same creator that made those lights made me so it made a very significant moment for me to sit there and see that. And it was, it has been so good, ever, ever bit of. Yeah. I think about them now and I can't quit smiling about. You know, it was, they were, you ask a question we talked when you first got here about a lot of the clips that you see of the Northern lights are sped up so you can see the movement. Right. You can see the movement in them if you're just sitting there staring at them. But it is almost like you could hear them. It is an overwhelming experience to sit there and see

1:21:52that. It was for me. You know, and I'm a, I'm a detailed oriented person. All right. I try to pay attention to everything except when Alexis tells me to do something apparently. I'm not very good at that, but it was very easy answer that had the biggest impact on me. And it was all good. Man, that's great. Any final reflections on the, on the trip? There was nothing bad about it. You know, it's hard going from getting all that stuff up there and air all the logistics that went into it. I can't tell you how many meetings we had, meetings after meetings, after meetings on CREP and in plan. And I knew once I got there and we got feet on the ground, why we had so many of them because it is such a big undertaking. But just the whole experience as a whole, there was no detractors, even the long drive. You know,

1:22:54we, Dave and I flew into Winnipeg and then drove like 10 or 11 hours to the Northern part of Manitoba. The catch the float plane to go in there to where Craig was. So I mean, it was, once we got, I mean, it was Katie Bar the door. You got to go, you know, you got to load up and drive and then, I mean, it was effort. It took effort to get there. But every bit of it was fun. Every bit of it was you know, new and refreshing and I got to share it with my friends and I just made it so good. It was it will be with me forever. And I hope to get to go back and do it again soon, you know, with a, in a different place or with Craig or whatever. I won't go with the bow and just get that much closer. Yeah. Well, thanks for sharing the film with us and talking with me today. I appreciate it. Thank you for being here, Josh. I appreciate it. Thank y'all for being here. If you haven't seen it yet,

1:23:56check out the 12 and 26 Manitoba Moose hunting episode that I did there on the Media to YouTube channel. It's been an absolute pleasure to do and I appreciate it. And send your comments in anytime you see one of these when we do one of these companion podcasts. Your questions can, could get answered right here on the air. Thank y'all for watching and y'all be careful. Thanks everybody.

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