
About this episode
37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss their unique approach of operating without full-time managers. They reflect on the company's experience with full-time managers and share why they've moved to a flatter organization.
Key Takeaways:
- 00:54 - The before and after of 37signals' experience with full-time managers
- 08:34 - The founders thoughts on being directly involved in the business
- 10:36 - Why the company's management hierarchy works best for the founders
- 17:17 - 37signals' career ladder doesn't necessarily mean people leadership
- 20:03 - What company size makes sense for having more management layers
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