FEELING THINGS - When Rejection Is Redirection & More (Couch Talks)

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3:12We just follow in a spear where it's all of us come from the real stuff to the chill stuff and the ember 20. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just stop and feel things. This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Thursday, welcome to couch talks, our Q&A episode to the Feeling Things Podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat. And we're going to kick things off with a voicemail out of the gate. We've got a voicemail, a DM, and then another voicemail. That's what you call a couch talks sandwich. Couch talks voicemail sandwich. Yeah. So let's just out of the gate. This is from Samantha. Here you go. I'm Kat and listening to your Tuesday episode. When you guys are talking about the quote, maybe you didn't get what you wanted because you deserve more. I never mind me of when I was fresh out of college and I didn't get this job that I really wanted.

4:16And they actually end up calling me back and then offering me a job because they're offer a filter or something. And I admitted to a different job. And you know, I really wanted that other one, but the job I did end up taking to go on offer. That is how I met my best friend who then introduced me to my student to be husband. We're getting married at the end of September. And I am filled with that company. I'm now in senior leadership and I just got promotion. I love my job and I love what I do. So when I heard that quote, maybe you didn't get what you wanted because you deserve more. I immediately always go back to that first job that I wanted. I just wanted to share that little story for others out there who maybe are stuck or feeling discouraged because they didn't get something that they wanted. And the end or the light eventually is that to be patient. Thanks. Best story. I know it's not a question, but it was encouragement based off something we set on a previous episode. And I love that she shared her experience because I just know somebody else listening will appreciate hearing that so much. And based on this week's feeling things episode from Tuesday.

5:33Samantha, we are so happy for you. I'm just going to get married because we can't say congratulations. Oh, yeah. No, best wishes. Best wishes. I'm the one with that story. And I was like, wait, what? Yeah, you're the one that gave us that advice. Kat said that she saw a reminder from an etiquette person like that if a woman gets engaged. It's good to reframe it and say, we're so happy for you. I'm so happy for you. This is so exciting versus this. Congratulations. What an accomplishment. Right. Kind of thing. Well, that story. I don't think I brought this up when we talked about that quote, but this whole situation reminds me of that. I think it's Mary Oliver that I've shared before somebody wants handed me a box full of darkness. I now realize this too was a gift. And that's the same kind of idea that that was a gift that you didn't get that job because now you have a job you love a best friend and you're about to have a husband.

6:37What and a promotion and a pro senior leadership and you're getting a promotion. What I know. That's just a great story. Thank you Samantha for calling to share that. And that's what we want. We want to hear from you all in this way. If something ever trigger something new when you're listening, you're like, oh, I should email. I should call. But then you're like, no, who cares. We care. I care. We love that care. Speaking of jobs and being at work, something just popped in my head that I saw the other day, like a quick social post where it said if you roll into work with two bags. Did you see this? Did you see this too? Okay. Well, let me finish it because people don't know unless they've seen it. But it says you're, you're seen as chaotic. And I was like, okay, some days I have one bag. Other days I roll in with another bag. So I have other things I need to take. And I will say I feel a little bit clunky or those days.

7:38And so maybe I'm walking through the halls. Who knows if other people are perceiving me that way. But this social media clip made it seem like, oh, yeah. If you're the two bag lady, I assume it's what because what guys are rolling in the two bags. But if you're a two bag person, you're chaotic. Yeah, it's definitely targeted towards women. I have feelings about this. Okay. What did you see what I saw? So the reason I saw this is it is it the same person that it's I never planned on talking about this. I just, I just thought of this. It pops it. You know how things pop into your head. I mean, she was talking about work and senior leadership. I'm like, I'm gonna take two bags. Well, I saw it because Kate Kennedy did a whole episode on her podcast. I think about this. Oh, okay, because I think it I haven't listened to it yet. I just saw her post about the two bags. Yes. Okay. And so I only watched the part of the clip that was in her story. So I didn't take caveat. I have not watched the whole thing.

8:38But it did immediately hurt me because this is my own feelings. But it was definitely targeted towards women. And it reminds me of like women being called bag ladies and all that. And, and you know, sometimes we have stuff to carry. I'm thinking I take two bags into my office. I have my backpack and then I have my purse. So I have to combine. I have to switch my purse into my backpack every day so people don't think I'm chaotic versus this is just what works best for me. Like in my head, I was like, come on. There's other things we could be helping each other like figure out in life other than putting somebody in a box based on how many bags they have. Like in assuming they're chaotic and they don't have their lives together. Yeah. What if two bags actually means I do have my life together. What if I have a lot of stuff to carry and I don't want to carry a huge bag that's going to hurt my back. Right. What about that? Yeah. What about that? So I just feel like women have it hard enough. And maybe I feel that because I'm eight and a half months pregnant, nine months pregnant. Who knows how pregnant I am right now.

9:44I'm like, we have it hard enough. Can we just let us carry stuff? Let us carry stuff. Let's carry bags with no label. Yeah. All right. We got a DM in our, it's our account is feeling things podcast. If you want to follow us on Instagram. So you can send questions in that way. Hi, quick question. I believe at one point Amy had talked about lens therapy with neurofeedback of the brain. I recently did a session of brain mapping. I was curious if she ever did that and what her experience was. It's quite expensive. And I think it takes a lot of sessions to see results. So I wanted to see if she thought it was worth it. I don't know of brain mapping overall. Like if she's asking if that's a completely different thing than the lens. I know when I go have gone. I've gone to two different neurofeedback people in Nashville. And I like both of them equally, but they are very different. So the lens is low energy neurofeedback that is much faster than the other person that I go to. And that place is called harmonized brain centering the founder of it even came on my podcast back when it was four things. I really like her. She works with a lot of people in town.

10:55And it's like a 15 minute process. But before we started the sessions, which they're ended up I needed 12 of them. So you're right is an investment and you do have to go multiple times. They do a map of my brain. So I don't know if that's what she's referring to when she says brain mapping. I never did something called brain mapping for 12 sessions. I did neurofeedback. I just did two different versions of neurofeedback. I did the lens. And I like that because it was faster. And I did the regular. But I also like that. And I think they worked my like different things were happening. I saw a benefit in both. In fact, getting this. Yama is kind of making you want to go back just for a little touch up sash. What do you feel you got out of it? Oh, it would help with my looping my anxiety. I went at a time where I had a lot going on and it helped call me. So I think right now I've just felt pretty good and just been surviving with my ADHD. But it absolutely will help with those.

11:57Are they symptoms? Like, let me put it this way. After a treatment. I will come home and start organizing my fridge. And I don't think about it. I'm like, Oh, my fridge needs to be cleaned out. Okay. And I just do it. Like, do you know my untreated brain? You know when I'm cooking something in the oven or I'm preheating the oven, I have to immediately turn the oven light on or I'll forget that I was going to bake something interesting. Well, because I just I'll start doing something else and I'll go to another room and then I'll be like, Oh, yeah, the oven lights on. I need to put the food in the oven. You know what I struggle with? Remembering if I turned the oven off or not. Hey, everyone. It's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas podcast. We've been catching up with some great friends Paul Rod, Michael Boulier, Seth Meyers, Nile Horan, Jake Shane and making some new friends while getting into what's really like to have sisters like Alex National.

13:06She likes to control everyone and tell everyone to control as a hardware. I would say that's a hard work. I am more outspoken. Growing up a lot of the times because she was so quiet. I would speak for like the both of us. Now I'm working on like thinking a mom is really not a good thing before I speak. And Joey King. You know if you're like mom is yelling at your sibling and even if you're annoyed with your sibling, you just like won't let that slide. It's like you only can yell at your sibling. I'm like, you can't do that here. That is not what I want talk about her like that. Plus we've been taking your calls listening to your voice mails and giving advice or at least trying to. So if you've got catching up to do now is the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the I Heart Radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. You know what I struggle with? Remembering if I turn the oven off or not almost every night we use the oven when we go to bed. We get in bed. We're in my husband. We're all cozy warm. And then I turn over and I say.

14:15Did we turn the oven off? And I'm obviously not walking downstairs to check. So Patrick has to get up and go check and it is probably his pet peeve of mine. But I can never remember. And then I also can't go to sleep if I think the oven might be on or the stove. That would even worse because we have the one with the flame. Yeah. So yeah, I can relate to that in a little. My oven's pretty loud. So I that always wow again. It's like that's my like the light helps me the noise helps me. So I remember I don't think of it ever leave my oven on because I hear the. There's something loud about it. Lucky. Yeah, it's a gift. It's a gift. I mean, it's a newer. I don't know why it's maybe that's a feature. Like we put some noise on it. So you'll never leave it on. Maybe to be helpful. Now the other type of neurofeedback that would take more like hour to an hour and a half. I would be watching a Netflix show or something. She would put on Netflix and she had the software. She would run through it. But I would have to sit there and I'd have to watch a whole episode of West Winger.

15:17Did you pick the show? You can pick whatever, whatever, whatever I want the lens. You don't watch anything because you're just sitting there for 10 15 minutes and the neuron. Little. Do you talk to sit there? I can talk to her. Yeah. Should be like, so how is your day? That was pretty good. I did that. But then the other one. No, I'm watching. I have to watch the screen. You had headphones on. So there's the noise and the noise is going in and out. It's getting louder. And softer and louder and softer. And the screen is getting bigger and smaller and bigger. And so it's sort of like you're on this little trip. But your brain. It's exercising or working out your brain and doing things to it to where you just. So you would say it's worth it. For me, it was worth it. Like I, like if I went right now because I don't have a lot of, I don't have the looping or. I'm not feeling extra anxious about things and my brain feels relatively calm. I feel awake. Like a lot of my brain was asleep during those times because I was shutting down.

16:19But then I, some, then other parts of my brain were in overdrive because I was freaking out. Like I used to not be able to sleep because my brain was looping so much about some stuff and it was just over and over. I remember that. And over and over. And the looping stopped when I was doing neurofeedback and I was doing talk therapy at the same time. And if you're able to do it, I get that this gets expensive and adds up. But the, the neurofeedback. It was a good compliment to my talk therapy. So, and it was just for a season. I don't think you have to do it forever. Then you can kind of get on a maintenance plan if you want or in my case now. I know that I could pop in for a session and I'd have a. You know, a good fridge clean out the next day with no drama. Or maybe I wouldn't need to turn on the oven light to remember. Oh, yeah, I'm going to bake something. So there's that. I hope that helps. And but brain mapping. Have you ever, I mean, that's just they mapped my brain to see where I was. That's how they knew parts of my brain were in delta.

17:22Which when you are in high stress situations or survival modes, parts your brain will go to sleep because it's like. Well, I will say I know nothing about neurofeedback. So you know because you've been more than I know. Yeah, I am. Yeah, but I'm no expert at all. I'm just like I'm a patient. Yes. And I had good. I have good feedback about neurofeedback. But our brains everybody's so different. Like someone may go and not really get anything out of it. And that's like anything like some people do EMDR and don't really get anything out of it. And some people do it and it changes their life. So you know, I did EMDR after my mom died and I did not like it. I remember you telling me that which I. I've done it since. No. And I wonder if it was the administrator. I didn't really like her as much. So administrator. Well, the therapist. I didn't really know I would just I went to I went to someone that did EMDR. It wasn't like a therapist. I had been working with previously. I went because they offer that.

18:24Okay, but there was a therapist you went to. I don't know why I was calling it administrator. The person that did the treatment on me. What did I do with Linda in Virginia? You had brain spotting. That's it. That's what you liked. Yeah. I think that brain spotting was different. Well, this is what I think about because I had an experience where I did EMDR with a therapist that I actually really liked. But I didn't really like EMDR. I didn't really get anything out of it. EMDR has more it has more of a definitive protocol and there's less like. It's more rigid than brain spotting and somebody with a brain like ours. And somebody with a brain like ours is going to probably probably this is my own opinion. Be more receptive to brain spotting because it's more fluid and there's more flexibility in it. And it's very much client led. Versus EMDR is did there's so much structure. So that doesn't surprise me about you. I had a very similar experience. Okay. And with brain spotting you can there's so many.

19:32I've only got a two brain spotting trainings, but there are so many different ways to use it. Yeah, like I'll share what I did. I drew my parents on butcher paper. Like think big butcher paper from like the art room when you were a kid. And I didn't have to draw them well or anything. They were like stick figures. You just need a body like I had the yeah and curly hair on my mom and a little belt on my dad. And we put them on the wall. And then I just started writing things on the butcher and then we would look at them. Right. And I mean she had a whole process. But I had this and then I had to talk to the butcher paper on the wall. And then I don't know if this is part of the brain spotting process, but remember how she had a beanie baby that I picked out. I still have it in my room. And I picked out a little beanie baby that I would talk to on that trip to. Was it like a inner child? What is it represent? I don't remember. Okay. It might not have been part of the brain spotting, which is part of your work.

20:37That was a very intense three days because I was working nine hours a day for three days straight in a hotel room. Would you eat meals with her? Yep. I could have said it. How did you trans like what's the word transition from like doing this intense trauma work to like do you want to get Chinese or Mexican. Well, I heard one day she was like well, now the mushrooms are right down the street. I'm like that sounds great. And then what would you talk about during lunch? Sometimes we didn't even really have to talk when that that was cool. And I learned a little bit about what she did who she like she lived on a bunch of land. Her husband was a doctor. Yeah. They had chickens and eggs. Oh, we just talk about life a little bit. We didn't do we wouldn't continue any therapy talk. Well, that makes me think about the voice now question that we got because it's about there. It's kind of about about about about therapist boundaries. And that's a unique situation where you're kind of sitting seeing your therapist in two settings.

21:37We're there. You're my therapist. And then we're just eating lunch together and asking questions about your life. Right. With her it was so unique though, because think about it. If people aren't familiar with my Linda story, I was in complete desperation mode like my Nashville therapist. And another person I was working with here. They got together and said, you should Amy needs to go away. And if you knew all the things that were happening at once, you would probably agree to. Yeah. Some of the stuff is public. Want to think like my dad died. That's public. There were two other things that are not public. And it was all happening at once and it was just a lot. And I took two weeks off of work. And so during that two weeks, I went to the three day intensive, but this woman Linda picked me up. And it's so strange to think about her now because she picked me up at the airport. I didn't know her. But she picked me up. I spent three days with her. And then she dropped me off at the airport. And I've never seen her since. Never talked to her.

22:37No, never emailed her. No. No. Have you wanted to? Was she even real? I don't know why I did this even happen. Did this even happen? All of it up. Isn't it crazy? Like, and she knows more about my life probably than anybody because of how much we covered in those nine days. And you lay it all in the table. You're like, what do I have to lose? Like, please help me. Yeah. I'll tell you anything and everything. Which, yes, are the bottom half of our sandwich. This is from Mary. She lives in Massachusetts. And she's asking how to balance sessions when your clients listen to your podcast. Hey, everyone. It's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas podcast. We've been catching up with some great friends Paul Rod, Michael Bubley, Seth Meyers, Nile Horan, Jake Shane, and making some new friends while getting into what's really like to have sisters, like Alex Nassian Earl. She likes to control everyone and tell everyone to do that. Okay, well, control is a harsh word. I would say that's a harsh word.

23:38I am more outspoken. Growing up a lot of the times because she was so quiet. I would speak for like the both of us. Now I'm working on like thinking a mom is really not a good thing before I speak. And Joey King. You know if your like mom is yelling at your sibling and even if you're annoyed with your sibling, you just like won't let that slide. It's like you only can yell at your sibling. I'm like, you can't do that here. That is not what I want to talk about her like that. I just want to talk about her like that. Plus, we've been taking your calls, listening to your voice mails and giving advice, or at least trying to. You've got catching up to do now is the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartReadyWap Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything.

24:44Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up without a doubt he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartReadyWap Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman, Angel Jaretana. Jeremy Colhane, Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the artists on artists on artists on artists podcast. The Improvised Character Comedy Podcast where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of wellness influencers. What I try to do is foe journal. I don't know, I think I sort of foe journaling. Yeah, it's reading, it's called reading.

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27:46I'm Dr. Joy and this is therapy for black girls. We spent real time on it in our surviving middle school run, bringing in a child psychologist and a psychiatrist who's raising two black girls of his own to talk about what's really going on with our kids right now. So it's literally physiological and neurological and psychological chaos happening all this entire job. We got into group chats and gaming, friendship and bullying, and how to tell the difference between healthy monitoring and the kind of surveillance that a road's trust. You're belonging, you could think of belonging as I can be myself and I can still be accepted, and then they're fitting in. Fitting in says I have to change who I am in order to avoid rejection. Then we turned the conversation toward the fathers, sitting down with therapists, and taking your gains on black fatherhood, and what it means to raise a daughter through this stage. You don't have more shorts so you can't do flips, you have on the dress you have across your legs. That's the range of this run, from screen time to identity to the fathers doing the work at home. How to get off her device?

28:46The reality is there's a lot of life out there that we don't want you as your adults in the life to miss out on. This has been our surviving middle school run, brought to you by the people who spend their careers thinking about exactly this. I'm Dr. Joy. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHR radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is from Mary. She lives in Massachusetts and she's asking how to balance sessions when your clients listen to your podcast. So this is very in the weeds therapy related, but that's what we're doing. We're here to answer questions and cats at their fist and we have a podcast. So here's what Mary sent in. Hi Amy and cat. Cat, this question is for you. I am listening to the podcast right now where you guys are just talking about your journey to become a therapist. And I am also a therapist and I actually went back to grad school at 38 years old and I am now almost done with my hours and I'm taking my exam soon.

29:49But anyway, my question is I'm also thinking about hosting my own podcast eventually a lot smaller scale than what you guys have just because I have a lot of things that I want to say and get off my chest. And I thought a podcast would be a good idea to do it. But one of the things that I was concerned about is balancing when your clients listen to your podcast. Can you just kind of speak to how you handle that and if it's something that comes up in your like informed consent part of the session or is it something that comes up only if the client brings it up, just curious and hoping to get some feedback from you. Thank you both. I love the podcast long time listener and I hope you guys have the day that you need to have. Oh, I'm Mary from Eastbridge, Rotter, Massachusetts. 42 years old therapist and training. Bye guys. I love the ending. She understood the assignment. We know someone's like, they're they're wanting to give it.

30:51It's everything we've ever asked for. We're like, we thought to new your name, your age, where you're listening from, what you do. That's funny. This is a really good question, I think, because this is something that I've dealt with and had changed my perspective on over the past five or six years. When I started using therapy, my old podcast that was just strictly a mental health podcast. I wanted my clients to it was I started as a resource for people. And so it was something that I would sometimes send clients certain episodes based on what they are going through what they needed. So I would never say anything on that podcast that I would not want a client to hear that I wouldn't say probably in a session with the client. This also is in tandem with social media because I was trying to grow social media while I was doing this podcast too.

31:52And sometimes that felt very hard because do your clients follow you? Do they not? Can they follow you if it's a, if it's your personal account versus this account? And what if you're not probably, there's so many things what I have come to is your clients are probably going to look you up. Some of them at least most of them probably. And so I cannot stop somebody from doing something like that. I can't, I mean, I can say, please don't do that, but they probably will do that. I'm more realistic about it. So how I approach it as I don't ever put anything on social media that I would not want a client to have the ability to see. Which other people might have a very different perspective than this and might have a way more strict boundaries, but I'm also a therapist who probably self discloses with clients, depending on who they are more than somebody else. And so I know that I just use social media in a way that I know that like any but any client could see this and how would I feel about that.

32:59And then in my paperwork, there is a clause that's like, I can't follow you on social media. I'm not going to probably message you on social media. I'm not going to reach out to you on social media that they all know about. But now our podcast is different. And we've talked about this. I feel like, especially in the beginning of starting this. And I've kind of loosened my boundaries a little bit. And I'm going to say, Lucy Goosey over there. And my perspective is this is for this is less. I'm not probably going to send a client one of these episodes. Yeah, probably not. I mean, yes, we're a mental health minded and we do teach things. And but this is more. This is there's a lot of entertainment factor in here. And so I've just looked at them as separate. And if again, I would never because there has been things that I've said on here. And later I've been like Houston or producer. I'll like, I need you to take that part out because I don't want that on there. Sometimes I feel a little too comfortable.

33:59So I still operate under the assumption if a client listens to this, which some of them will. I just want to feel okay with what they're going to hear. Right. And that's how I would approach. It sounds I don't know if her podcast is going to be mental health minded or just like for fun. But I would just keep in mind, which I think is a good rule of thumb in general. Like don't say anything on the internet or post anything on the internet. You wouldn't want somebody to see. I just take it a step further than not only my friends, but I wouldn't want a client to see. Yeah, because let me tell you there are some stories I would tell. I bet there are some things I would say and there's some stories. You know, it is so tragic that we haven't told everybody about, you know, how we were going to do a segment on your crappy gay. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Hey everyone, it's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas podcast. We've been catching up with some great friends Paul Rod Michael Blay, Seth Meyers, Nile Horan, Jake Shane, and making some new friends while getting into what's really like to have sisters like Alex National.

35:07She likes to control everyone and tell everyone to control as a hardware. I would say that's a hard work. I am more outspoken growing up a lot of the times because she was so quiet. I would speak for like the both of us. Now I'm working on like thinking a moment really and taking before I speak. And Joey King. You know if your like mom is yelling at your sibling and even if you're annoyed with your sibling, you just like won't let that slide. It's like you only can yell at your sibling. I'm like, you can't do that here. That is not what I want talk about her like that. I just want to talk about her like that. Plus we've been taking your calls listening to your voice mails and giving advice or at least trying to. So if you've got catching up to do now is the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. When I was 14 years old I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files.

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37:11What I try to do is foe journal. I don't know, I think you guys heard of foe journaling. Yeah, it's reading, it's called reading. So we don't like to use that word anymore. Okay. A panel of New Yorker cartoonists. Have you guys done Terry Gross's Peloton class? No! I've been dying too! I'm so sorry, I'm seeing a reading of Sadako in the Thousand Paper Cranes by Audrement Donalds at the Wonderland Bookstore on 14th. That's crazy, I went to the Wonderland Bookstore yesterday and I heard Nora Jones do a reading of zero dark circles. No way! Patrick of the last bookstore though, Kim Katrol is reading the guitar tabs of yesterday. A panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He, he winks on Halloween. He gets rid of next to the microphone. I hear you get the elbows here, the eyelashes hate each other. You never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to artists on artists on artists on the IHR radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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39:14By age of revenue or so, at least 70% have a phone. Middle school is a different world than the one we grew up in. I'm Dr. Joy and this is therapy for Black girls. We spent real time on it in our surviving middle school run, bringing in a child psychologist and a psychiatrist who's raising two Black girls of his own to talk about what's really going on with our kids right now. So it's literally physiological and neurological and psychological chaos happening all this seems off. We got into group chats and gaming, friendships and bullying, and how to tell the difference between healthy monitoring and the kind of surveillance that erodes trust. They're belonging. You could think of belonging as I can be myself and I can still be accepted. And then they're fitting in. fitting in says I have to change who I am in order to avoid rejection. Then we turn the conversation toward the fathers sitting down with their obscure gains on Black fatherhood and what it means to raise a daughter through this stage. You don't have more shorts so you can't do flips. You have on the dress. You have to cross your legs.

40:14That's the range of this run from screen time to identity to the fathers doing the work at home. You have to get off your device. But the reality is there's a lot of life out there that we don't want you as your adults in the life to miss out on. This has been our surviving middle school run brought to you by the people who spend their careers thinking about exactly this. I'm Dr. Joy. Listen to therapy for Black girls on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. You know what is so tragic that we haven't told everybody about you know how we were going to do a segment. We're going to do a segment on your crappy date. Oh my gosh. Guys, we've even teased it. Like coming up one day we're going to go through cats crappy date jar, which it was called with the S word. Yeah. Her poopy date jar. And tell them. Tell them. It doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. So when I moved. I'm so depressed about this. I am too. When I moved my friend that I started it with took it and she was like, oh, I'll take it.

41:16I want it because it was her jar to begin with. And then she just moved because she just got married. And I texted her today because I was like, we need to do that. I said, hey, do you still have it? And she said, I do not exclamation point. I said, exclamation point. Sad face. What? So I'm sorry guys. You'll never get to hear those stories. And it was full to the tip top. And they weren't all my stories either. So that's another like to this. Like there's some date stories I wouldn't tell from my own life. But a lot of them were either my roommate or then just friends started coming over and putting stories in the jar. And they're gone now. Dang. That jar probably had some good stuff in it. See, that's okay. That's okay. Those things though. Like that because I was going to get rid of it and then she took it. That's one of those things and it makes me not everyone to get rid of things. Because in my head, I was like, why will I ever need this? Just because such a good story. And now I'm like, I need it.

42:16I want to because we forget some of those crazy things that happened to us. Like, oh my gosh, you know, I forgot that guy I went out with that. You know, told me he would never date a girl if she shopped at Target. Yeah, we'll never forget that story then. Yeah. That guy was funny. Funny? I mean, there are some people that are pretty passionate about, yeah, where you shopping, what you do. But it was just like, well, okay, all right. Then yeah, he called me names. Wait, I don't remember. Called me a basic white. Oh, basic white B. Yeah. And I said why? And he said, you shop at Target, I would never shop at Target. Oh. And I was like, okay, well, where do you get your Q tips? Yeah. Literally is what I said. And he was like, at the local drugstore. And I was like, okay, I don't have one of those around me. I was CVS. I'm assuming you feel similarly about CVS. Yeah, that's basic white girl, maybe, too. What's a chain? So I'm like, I don't have a mom and pop drugstore next to me.

43:17Also, I mean, you're diverse because you like to shop local too. You do both. Like, I feel like, I feel like if you're on that date with me, you'd be like, she shops local too. Sometimes she has the farmer's market. She has both. I've seen her. She shops on TikTok shop and at the local stores. Yeah. I've been telling people about that $13 dress you got on TikTok shop. Oh, really? Yes. Because it's so cute. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you all for sending in your voicemails, your DM. We love hearing from you. You can send us an email. Whether it's, again, you're sharing something from an episode. You heard, and you're like, oh, I can be an encouragement. I don't think twice. Kat and I want to hear your story. Hey, they're at FeelingThinksPodcast.com or call 877-207-2077. All of that's in the show notes as well. If you're driving and you're like, oh, I can't ever remember it. Well, you have no excuse. And, uh, or if you've got a question, we also want to hear it.

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