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3:05Money Making Conversations Masterclass. It's free. You can follow me on I Heart Radio app, Spotify, Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast. New Money Making Conversations Masterclass episodes drop daily. I want to keep you on alert because my guests provide tips on how you can uplift your community, improve your financial planning, motivation or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Now let's get this podcast started. My guest is the writer, director and producer of Tyler Perry's Sartima. He's an award-winning filmmaker, writer and director for my own, my hometown Houston, Texas. Renown for his emotionally gripping narratives that tackle complex social issues. Please work with the Money Making Conversations Masterclass Courtney Glow Day. How you doing, sir? Got to see right there. G did. Okay. Got to make sure Glow Day. You know, he's Louis Allen. Louis Allen boy. Louis Allen boy. I don't tell you. But leave that Louisiana background. You're in Houston, Texas. Tell me a little bit about yourself before we get started. Glow Day. Yeah. So I was born in Houston, but my grandmother from Louisiana, they moved in.

4:08For probably Louisiana. I left it yet. Okay. Yeah. I tend. Yeah. Absolutely. So my family was raised and born in Lafayette. My grandmother moved to Houston and saw my mom and everybody was born in Houston. And I've been raised in Houston. Fifth Ward. Okay. I was born in fourth Ward. No, no, no, it was just, it's been a journey and just the cultures, you know, coming together created this. Okay. Which is really great. And congratulations on the four being the director, writer, producer of our team, which is on BET plus. Now, this would always hurt Tyler Perry writes all his content. He directs all his content. He does let anybody do anything. And did I heard about you? Is this a rumor? He's allowed other creative sources to come in and produce and extend his projects. Tell me about that. Yeah. He's absolutely opening up. He was building a foundation. And I don't think Tyler was doing it because he wanted to. I think he was doing it because he had to at that particular time. And then once you get used to doing something, you're not like, you're going to keep doing it as long as you can.

5:10And now his brand and his reach is so big. Now he's opening it up for other creators like myself to come in and take that torch and move it forward. Right now I have he's lent over to team up his show Sisters and also the show Rufla. So we over there running on top of coming and supporting the projects that I'm doing over there. Okay. Let's go just to team. Okay. Now it's a team up. And what did I notice right out the lead is full. Now let's go to stereotypes that I did Monique and I wanted the the Ramonique sitcom. And I know you did some work with Monique as well. That really was your breakthrough project. But Monique I really loved doing that show because the first time where black women who were full figured weren't made. And they were about they look good. They feel good. They dress good. You know, it really was a pro positive for overweight women. And so I've always had that I grew up with six sisters.

6:14So I've always been a person who felt offended when women who were full figured got stereotype. They were the butt of the jokes. Or there was always ride with the attractive chick and they got the looked over there. They was with nobody. But when I saw this series, I was really impressed that they chose that direction because I believe it's been successful. This is a smile thorn because of the lead being full figured your thoughts. Crystal is self-regarding you know, in spite of what the the figure like she's a very relatable person. Her she is a magnet of people her personality. She has a show called keep your positive like so she is a light to every room. So I believe I don't even think that was the initial top thought battalor. I think that he saw the talent in her and the drive in her. And he wanted the per he wanted to push forward and general with that because of how talented she generally was from the beginning. And I don't even think people have even really seen how talented she is. But again, I think those stereotypes are something that's that's deep at this point.

7:15And what am I to what Queen of the T for on living single at one point. What was it called by mine? I'm talking about 99. When I was writing direct and doing sitcoms and and the butt of the jokes. Or as you came from a comedic background. Talk about money. Yeah, money. And so and so that was the whole thing. I was always fight for jokes that I felt were tied to her weight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it wouldn't fair. That's the easy way out. That's right. To her strength, which is a talented successful, particularly this smart black woman. Yeah, yeah. And so when I look at his team up tell my my audience what is the show and what excites you about the show? So the show is about a character named Zach and his girlfriend named Zatima. No, but he's a team. That's right. I'm a bad luck for better words is about boys just to create. Yeah, he's living it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

8:22He is a either a crash out, but he loves his, he loves his girl. So it's about Fatima and Zach and they just collaborative the name with Zatima for for the show. Say, but it's about their relationship and their hardships that come out and the things that they deal with within their relationship and it's so relatable because it actually tackles real problems that go on within a relationship, but it shows how strong a relationship can be and go that that third line of what love looks like now day and age. And it just really I think it's relatable to a lot of people. Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more money making conversations. Masterclass. Not need for you to do me a favor. Right now, you'll follow or subscribe to money making conversation. It's free. And you can find it on the iHeartRadio app. Spotify Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Please do me that favor. Follow or subscribe. Money making conversations. Well, it's that time again. Backpacks, first day of school outfits, and the low key anxiety of it might be doing this, right?

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10:43It's not related to the whole of your use, the sincerity of the series. Because this is all about you know, because we all have a Zach and our family. For sure. That's what it is. Absolutely. And we always say, how does that guy get a woman? How does he work? Well, because he has her on his life. Absolutely. That keeps it focused. Keep it in mind. Talk about your background. The Tyler Perry has given you the tools to the car to be the writer, director, producer, all the four seasons. Talk to me, Clon. Well, the one thing that he does is Tyler equips you with like, so when Tyler brought me in, he'll throw you in the front like, hey, you like to tame it? For you to get in there. It's your show. Go ahead. But he also gives you the tools that he equips. He teaches you about how does he shoot at his speed. He, uh, Tyler's the type of creator that shoots for the edit. So he, he actually told me, hey, here are all the tools that you need. Now, I'm going to put you in the position and he walked you through that process. Like he didn't just like, oh, day one, it's time to go. He actually, it's like Tyler Perry studios is like the bootcamp for creators.

11:46He gives you the ground and it's the sandbox. But you just got to play with the tools that he got to learn with what to use and knows nature. Okay. Let me measure this. So Tyler Perry got one of my clients is Sherry Shepard. Okay. Talk to your whole church. Yeah, yeah. And she says, the Tyler's the queen of king, the queen. I apologize. The king of one take. Yes. Yes. Just say, Tyler, I got it. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you the king of one take now. No, no, I haven't learned that trick yet. Yeah, I haven't learned that one yet. That's his trick. I haven't learned that trick yet. I know he wants me to because that trick saved a lot of money. Right, right. I ain't learned that trick yet. I just told him that the other day, like, I ain't quite learned that one yet. I ain't about to be three of my mean. So talk about a producer and how Tyler Perry is producing things at a very high level. Absolutely. And how you say, reshared, I haven't learned that trick. It's not so much a trick.

12:47It's time to make some experience. Yes. And the level of confidence that I got the shot. Yes. And I know from a standpoint of being a writer and a producer is visually seeing the moment and then being able to capture that moment. Talk walk us through the steps of how you set up a scene. That's a director. Because you care in a lot of hats. You produce it. You write and you direct it. Walk us through the steps. So for me, when I'm writing, it's a blessing to be a writer, producer. Because when I'm writing, I know the shot already. Because I'm telling the story already in my head. It's just really the other part is figuring out if the room that you're actually going to end up in has the things that you need in that room to get whatever shot. Because just because you thought you was going to blow a car up, don't need you going to get the budget to blow no car up. So then you got to get creative to figure out what's generally next. The figuring out the shot is really realistically like the easiest part of it. But when you don't have the ability or you don't have the things in that room that you need, that's when the creativity comes in

13:47to start creating a moment with the things that you have on your pilot at that point. Right. I'm talking to Courtney Claude. Yes. Four seasons. Four seasons. Four seasons. He's proud of that fact. We've been brought on board. Yes. In the Tyler Perry Empire. The universe. Yeah. You have a deal overall deal. Yes. Yes. What? To my audience. What does that mean to have the words overall deal? What's it mean? What it means is Tyler has saw something in me to say, hey, I'm going to pay for all your projects. Mm-hmm. Whatever project you want to do, I'm going to fund the Goat Project and then we're going to take it out to streaming to go sell it to a stream or whether it's a Netflix Amazon, Hulu, BT Plus, all of that. So he found something in me to say, hey, I believe in you so much, I'll put the money behind you, which is really, really rare. And it's the first time he's done it. You know, so it's a blessing. Good to meet you. Good to meet you. Thank you to come in this position to be a to have somebody with that experience that has been doing it for so long. Mm-hmm. To see something in me to start off the next generation of these filmmakers

14:48that he wants to be behind. Okay, so that's an overall deal. Yep. I'm just going to have to answer. Now, can you do other project outside of that overall deal? Will you have that overall deal? No, not unless you talk to the studio behind you. A lot of money going through that overall deal. Man, just said he made millions of millions of millions of millions of millions of millions. Right, right. Well, like, he says that I might be one of them. I'm not denying or agreeing. I'm just, no, it's one of those things. It's a commitment. If he's going to commit to putting up the money, just commit to the overall deal for a certain amount of time. And then you already, but that's the goal to get the money behind your project. Yeah, I had a good, the go rich and proud me. With doing the party. Hey, yeah, hey, have you raised your hand on this? Don't mess with my money, Richard. Oh, no, no. I'm happy with that. I'm very, you know, Houston, Texas. I'm already raised there. And when you start these dreams, I'm a lot older than you. And I started out, I left I be in the beer stand of comic. Okay. And my family first of all, I was a degree in mathematics.

15:49And so my whole family and everybody who knew me went, how? Very. A what? Yeah. Uh, that doesn't seem possible. Right. Talk to us about, because we all, because I always talk about people, there are people doing jobs that they don't want to do, but they're afraid to make a commitment to pursue their dreams. And when you're saying, this is a dream and it's a dream. There are a few people achieve, because we're talking about the overall deal with the most powerful, black producer, a creative creator of content, and Hollywood. Yeah. So let's talk about that journey in the early years, when you wanted to have this dream, and other people looked at you kind of like, really? So the thing that I've always had is I've had an amazing relationship with God. And I've always said just because God told it to me, He might not tell it to everybody else. Mm-hmm. So I've always stood on, I'm going to do what God wants me to do with God, gave me this vision. I'm going to make sure I do my best at achieving that vision.

16:54So I've never been, I've also had an understanding that everybody doesn't have the entrepreneur mind. You have some people that need the nine to five structure mind. And I don't, I don't blame or have, I'm not offended that you can't see it. And I've also had this thought process to where, if you believe it, I'm not dreaming big enough. So if I tell you something, and you can believe that it can happen immediately, I need to increase what I'm dreaming for because it should be unbelievable. In Houston, there aren't opportunities first, so you have to go out and make it. I've always been, my goal is always be grateful to where I am. If I'm always grateful to where I am, God will always provide the next step. I also, I've always lived in this moment. So when I say yes, I've had, I've had the thought to working with Tyler a long time ago. But if I don't, then I'm grateful for the position and the stories that God is allowing me to tell right now.

17:55This is where he want me. So now I'm not looking at that over there. I'm looking at that next step. And honestly, me looking at that next step helped me get there faster because I'm able to choose whatever that next step is faster versus looking over there. And then I trip on something right here because I'm not looking at what's in front of me. Which is really important. But there's also the naysayers. Yeah, they were out there. You know, boy, really? The really people, you know, because I give us your educational background. And then you're, how did you, did you, did you intern, did you the mentorship that got you to this step? Because a lot of people want to be sitting in this interview right now. But you're sitting in this interview. Talk to us. That is, um, wow, I don't really have conversation with people about where I'm going. That's a conversation between me and God, honestly. So I never really had the naysayers because I was already doing it by the time you saw it. Yeah. I don't have to have that conversation to actual opinion about something you've never done.

18:58So with, for me, I didn't go to college for this at that graduated high school. I didn't know storytelling and all of that was really a job. I knew about filmmaking, but not that. So going coming up in Houston, I would always write stories, figured out how to write scripts. And then honestly, it went from that point on to where every time I found out what I needed next, I went to, this is got named Boomtown. He used to do music videos in Houston. I went sat and watched him direct for the one. I'm like, oh, that's what a director does, right? Oh, yeah. Y'all just telling them. Oh, yeah. Let me learn how to do that for my scripts. Then you learn how to do that. Then you figure out, oh, no, you need a producer. Okay. So the producer is a person that just put everything together. Let me go network and talk to everybody and find the means to get what I need. So everything that I've done, I have it. I've never did internships or anything. It was really googling, reading books and figuring out how to get it. And there's one thing I always say,

20:00you're from Houston. You have a hustle mentality. The hustle is what got me far because I was the person that would never let somebody tell me. You know, I was just like, oh, it's just not for you. So let me go figure out how to do it myself. And then you eventually just keep taking steps up. So now people know that you do this. Now the phone calls start for you to do that. Yes. Yes. At least in Houston. Then when you go from Houston, then it grows and now you know, it takes us. Right. And then all of the things just come. It keeps it's a ripple effect after that point. That's the beauty of success. But sure. And the reality of the pressure of keeping it up. Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more money making conversations. Masterclass. Well, it's that time again. Backpacks, first day of school outfits, and the low key anxiety of it might be doing this right. Good mom's bad choices is diving into the back to school season. The way only we know how unfiltered, funny, and full of the moments other shows won't touch

21:03from surviving morning drop-offs to the guilt of missing the first bake sale. I already told me the next season she wants to join a club team that's by your house. So I was like, so you want me to pick you up from school? I'll take you by my house. But then I have to take you there. And then I have to drive back. And then some days I'm here. And I have to go pick you up at school and then bring you the, I was just like, hell no. This is the space where moms trade their highlight reel for the real reel. Whether you're new mom, a veteran mom, or just trying to make it to pick up on time. This season of Good Mom's Bad Choices is for you. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. The US Open is back. That's right. Two weeks of incredible, exciting tennis. Some outrageous overreactions from players and some hot takes from people who have, let's face it. No idea what they're talking about, but it's okay because I'm here for them and you. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast,

22:03I'll be breaking down everything that happens after Big Matches, who's playing the best tennis, who looks like they could possibly win this tournament, the surprise runs, the heartbreaking exits, and all the drama that only the US Open can deliver. Coco, looking real good. Her surf looks so much smoother than it has in the past. I was really happy to see Eager back to what she looked like a couple of years ago when she was winning dominantly. Listen, I'm going to let Venus decide when she wants to retire. I'm going to let the tournaments decide when they don't want to give her a wall card because she still puts bums in seats. She still sells and people love to see her play. You always say on this show that this is the best predictor of who will do well at the US Open. If this is a preview, then we are in for a treat. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the iHot Radio app. Apple podcasts all wear. Ever you get you podcasts. Dear Hunnies, this is goodbye. In February of 2024, celebrated illustrator and children's book author Patre Mathers and her husband Michael, mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members

23:04to let them know that they had died by suicide. By the time you get the shalliter both Petra and I will be dead. Next stop, Wonderland. Patre and Michael were by all accounts healthy, happy, and in love. Why did they do it? And what did it do to the people they left behind? I would have given a million reasons to not leave this world had I known. I keep coming back to a truly hope that Patre was a thousand percent on board with the plan. Do you think of him as having killed her? Yes, I do. I hold Michael responsible for my mother's death. I'm Leon Nayvak. And I'm Alice Gregory. Together we set out to interview everyone who got one of Patre and Michael's letters. As one married couple, trying to understand another. Listen to death of an artist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That call was really pivotal for me. Hey, it's Emily Tish Sussman. And this season on She Pivots, the podcast where women share bold career moves

24:06and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture shifting women who share their pivots like Para-Elimbian Alley Truett. I was like, I'm a month out from a shark attack. There's no way in 11 months I'm making the very long text. Advocate Elizabeth Smart. I still feel that drive that I can still make a difference. So I'm going to keep going. Celebrity chef Carla Hall was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years? No, I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke and in a dead and job that I didn't enjoy. And feminist legend, Gloria Steinem. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own. And if I can contribute to that, I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to She Pivots on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. On big lives, we take a single cultural icon. People like Jane Fonda, George Michael, Richard Pryor. And we pull apart the story behind the image.

25:09And we do this by digging through the BBC's vast archive. We're talking iconic moments in broadcast history. I'm not just a boxer. I'm educating. I can talk all week on millions of subjects. And forgotten interviews that change how we see these giants of our culture. Well, if changing the system from the ground up is revolutionary, then I'm revolutionary. We're here for the messy, the brilliant, the human version of our heroes. And when I go on stage, I like to dress as slutty as possible because it makes me dance better for some reason. I'm Emmanuel Jochi. I'm Kai Wright and this is Big Lives. Listen to big lives on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get podcasts. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations, Masterglass with me, Rishan Mechtop. A lot of people, because you're an entrepreneur. And let's say it like as it is. That means that when I say the word entrepreneur, that means that he's not tied to a consistent 40-hour-week check. And he has an overall deal here now, but he has to work that overall deal to make sure he's

26:13delivering content to keep that overall deal. Because that can be taken away. For sure. And so that means he's an entrepreneur. And so because he's an entrepreneur, that means that that's a certain mindset you have to wake up every day. What, what, Courtney, what is that mindset you wake up every day knowing you have an opportunity to direct a team? But what drives you? I have a daughter. So I don't, I don't, I can be okay. She won't. And even with, I have to do as much as I possibly can because maybe she doesn't know how to run a thing on business. So I have to create a legacy so big that it doesn't, it runs by itself. She can just live like comfortably. And I don't know what that mark is. And honestly, I love it. Like living being in your, I love it. So I don't, I don't feel like I work. I'm in, I'm writing stories. I'm creating whatever I want out my head, putting it on paper. But it doesn't feel like work. So every day I'm excited to get up to go because and then I know God has a purpose for me in it.

27:17Yeah, it's, it's not, it ain't rocket science for me. Now in this, in your introduction, this is our award-winning filmmaker, writer and director, from our home town. Because I don't want to get so deep in this interview that we forgive why you said no this shot. I'm sure. You said no this show to talk about the team. Yeah. Okay. Again, this is a production that was started by Tyler Perry. For sure. Tell us about Zatima. So what I'm bringing to the Tyler already created a little bit over here. Let me now take, let me now, the blueprint was there. He already came to it. That's his show. I just want to make it his show. He created it. But I definitely take it on a totally different roller coaster ride. And that's the greatest thing about Zatima. He has built this machine that the characters are already, even the cast, I don't have to go on this show in direct. They know the characters already. Sometimes they have to correct me like, ah, Zat couldn't say that. He would say this. Like, oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, true.

28:19That's true. I mean, for team of wouldn't say this. And it's so it's a dance between us. But it's definitely a show that shows. You might say, is it, but Zat says, ain't it? He ain't. It's things like that. You're right. That. And also, like, I, you know, Zatima is, I think based in Atlanta, well, I'm from Houston. So I'm slaying this different. Right. That's what I'm like. I'm like, right in there be like, hey, we don't, that ain't really you. We don't know what they mean. Right. You know, so it's always fun to go back and forth with them. But he's just created something that's so solid. It's honestly just taking the pieces and putting it on a different board and just playing the same type of game with them. It's just that I'm a very thriller, heart-trinching kind of director and writer. So it's a lot of things that I don't think the audience is used to. But I definitely think that they'll enjoy it. Let's talk about how the process works. Yes. Because it's great to have in the guy with as many hats as you have. Courtney, with this, Tyler trusted me. Oh, okay. So he was like, he called me and Lily was like, you like Zatima?

29:20I was like, yeah, yeah, like he was like, I just sure let's go ahead. So like, right now. Okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah. What did you say to yourself? Because I love it. Now, when that's that's a big one. Yeah, I got it, but you didn't really get it. No, I didn't want to do it at first. I was like, I had never done TV. Right. So I'm like, hello, like this Courtney, you called, maybe he called wrong, maybe he doubted the wrong number. I'm like, hello. So then he, when he got, I was like, all right, cool. So then my first thing was I went back and watched the episodes to see how it's formatted and see how it's done. Then I definitely do an outline that goes to the producers because they also, there's a team of people that know this story even still better than I do because they've been there from the beginning. So they know what Tyler's intent. You, Tyler ain't for the sit-on phone with me for two hours talking. He's not for the do that. Yeah, I'm gonna get five minutes. Right, I'm dead. And that's a good Tyler.

30:21That's a good Tyler. That's a good one. That's a good one. I'm gonna get five minutes. So I talked back and forth with the production team and I also get approval from some things. Like some things I think I'm taking it too far. I'll be like, what's your thing about this? And then he'll let me know his thoughts on all of that. But then yeah, absolutely. You come up with a skeleton of what the season is going to be. And then you got to take, keep in mind, what is each character going to do? It is a 20 episode season. So you need to have something big around episode 10 because that carries everybody to 20. And it's just you create these pivotal points for each character. Now every episode, the same character doesn't have to have this cliffhanger. But you have so many characters that he's built. You can kind of sprinkle who's dealing with what within those. And then honestly, you start writing it one by one. Well, I'm a fan of Tyler Perry. Nothing can get more crazy than the oval. The oval is like, oh, Lord, throw your hands up. You want to bet that?

31:22You got me, you got me. You got me. You sure? You're going to be emotionally grippy. Courtney. I don't know if he want to put no money. None. Lens for the team. You want to bet that? I love it. I love it. We'll see. He does. He has to say it. I'm the person that they tone down. OK, I love it. I love it. I have sent Tyler some stuff to Megan. We like, what? No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's talk about the compound. OK. Yes. I go to the airport. I see Tyler Perry Studio. Yes. Yes. That's our biggest guy in Atlanta. Describe to us. I've never been on the compound. So your description to me of what it is is going to be new to me. But I know when COVID was happening here, he was one of the first production companies to turn around proud. For sure. And he does it really fast. I mean, he does ABC shifts. Yeah. You know, actors and companies, they'd be a project.

32:22And by take six weeks, by take a week. Yeah, yeah. With him. The way he does stuff. How does it work? And describe to us the compound that what Tyler Perry Studios looks like and the experience. So Tyler, think of Disney Land, well, creators. OK. That's honestly how big it is. And what's interesting about the is probably not where the actual studio sits. There's, the studio probably sits on a third of what's actually, well, how much land he actually has. And it's just continuing to build for other creators. But it's like a Disney land for creators. There's every turn or every corner you turn, there's somewhere to be productive at. He has 12 studios that get rented out by Marvel. I think they shot some of Black Panther there. They shot some of coming to America there. I believe so it's one of those. That's what I believe. I think they were shooting back boys.

33:22I know, we don't smith over there. But I wasn't, yeah, what's that bad boys? That they were, that was over there? Yes, I think it was around the same time coming to America. It was filming. But they come in, run out to studio. So then you have that portion and then you have his legacy portion, which is Maxineville, which is where the Medea House is. And there's a team of us and the thing. So it's all, it's like the fairy land of fulfill makers to where every corner there is something else that you could be sure. There's this really cool spot that he has. It's a mansion. But it's so each side of the house on the lot. There's a mansion with four different entrances. So every side of the mansion looks like a totally different place. Okay. So there's no back door. It's another entrance, another entrance. That's so efficient because I can shoot in four different locations in the matter of one like house. You know, so that's how he thinks. And that's basically the compound.

34:22It's where you can be really, really. It's a place to be efficient. You know what I mean? So it's, but it's, it's incredible. Yeah. Now, I'm not going to understand it because to my understanding, they are sleeping quarters there. Yep. To my understanding, catering is fully a 24 hour foods available there. Talk about that experience. Yeah, it's, it's, it's there for the creators. He has everything that you need. And honestly, he makes sure that you're taking up and then the historic district. He's taking care of the historic district. I don't think that he can change the historic district. I'm not sure how that is. But yeah, it's a good word that he is trying to build. Kind of like if you've ever been to tourist park and Atlanta, you know, restaurant. Yeah. And like you said, used to work Disney as an example. Yes. Like as I've been fortunate, I worked on Paramount, I want to build a lot. And you are driving these lots and you see home, you'll see strange, you'll see like, you know, just like blocks. Absolutely. And it'd be like, okay, you can shoot on these blocks.

35:22Yeah. And it looks like you own a city street. Are you in New York? Right. Right. In Paris. Right. Like it's all of those things to where he has all the environments that you could possibly think of in walking distance. Okay. Now, let me ask you this because I know I want to definitely get credit about when you work with Monique, which was the, which was the moment in your career that really put you in a map. Correct. Correct. Talk to us about that. So that was my first project. It was an indie film. But Monique blessed me to be a part of the project. And it came out on BET Plus and it was the number one film on BET Plus. It was called Movie Called The Reading. I'm sorry Monique. It was a thriller. It did good. It did. And it honestly launched me off to be introduced to Tyler in the nature because it was on this streaming platform. And yeah, we've been rocking every sentence. That's that's that's that's the what I look at you as a young town. And I look at the creative and you got to look energy about you. You get energy. I believe I was you float you float in the room.

36:25In your goals and what's your future? What do you try to do in this business? Courtney, I honestly want to tell the stories that make people talk after. Like I don't I don't we want to give I want to get to those. When I first saw boys in a hood, I think me and my mom talked about that like all the way home. I like those stories. I think movies. And more just don't still don't look like she's right there. And I'm a reeky. I mean that's all you man. So I wanted I'm in this industry. I just want to do compelling things. And I mean that word specifically because I want people I want my films to make people feel something again. I think we've got into the mode to where people are trying to make people laugh, trying to make people scared but not make people feel anything anymore. I like that. I like I want people to feel something as if they they feel personally attached to the story that's being told. That's my goal as a storyteller. And you're from Houston, Texas.

37:26Yes. You know, we talked about the journey and the skepticism. What is it now? My brother. Oh, you know, Houston is love. Right. They may be. You ain't always love everywhere. You go that in Houston is growing. Do you know that we just got the Texas got the film incentives. Yeah, I'm going from 50 million to 300 million. Yes. That's just he's talking about which is inviting movie projects. And I just enjoyed your own now going to Texas. I think they changed that same in the California. A lot of the studios are now going back to California. And George is being impacted by that. But the impact of what you're making in this entry cannot be denied. My brother. Thank you. Thank you. Overall deal. With that. Tyler Peristille. Thank you for coming on. Money making conversations. Master. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for listening to this episode. Now I need for you to do me a favor. Right now you'll follow or subscribe to money making conversation. It's free. And you can find it on the iHardRadio app.

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