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0:00Howdy howdy ho and welcome to fantasy fanfellas. I'm Hayden producer of the fantasy fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson and I'm Stephen your bookish internet goofball, but you can call me the smash daddy and we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Missborn, but here's the catch Stephen here has not read Missborn before that's right Hey, so each week you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to every single And along the way we'll do character deep dives magic explainers and Stephen will even try to guess what's next spoiler alert He'll be wrong news flash. I'm never wrong episodes come out every Wednesday and you can find fantasy fanfellas wherever you get your podcasts The bleach your report app is your destination for sports right now the NBA's heating up March, Manus is here and MLB is almost back Every day there's a new headline a new highlight a new moment you've got to see for yourself That's why I stay locked in with the bleach your report app for me. It's about staying connected to my sports I could follow the teams I care about get real-time scores breaking news and highlights all in one place

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2:06Routine with exercising, but I find for me I haven't really gone to classes since I had Eli Which like there's no reason for it at this point. It's just like cheerlaziness, but I find it hard to self I like I need to create a romantic fantasy of myself is like a Pilates person or an F-45 person or like I have to buy into some sort of fantasy to like get myself there You have to say that you already are the thing That's what atomic habits see it and instead of saying I want to be a Pilates girl you say I am a Pilates girl and what would a Pilates girl do? She would go to Pilates Go to Pilates? One at least once a year Yeah, I don't know I Dropped it off forever and then I was like okay, this is this is just stupid and so I just made a rule where I just have to go Every second day and and so even though I canceled this morning. I'm gonna go this afternoon because This morning I was like sometimes just feels like a treat even though I have to pay that $20

3:09It's it's a self-care moment to myself to just like Fucking relax at home for the morning. I made a smoothie. I made a coffee. I set outside Yeah, that's nice, but yeah, I need to Do more than just this Because you don't walk it all in London. I mean in LA. Yeah, yeah, the walking was really really good last year I I like the idea of of getting It's like weird fit like jacked like doing an F45 or like a Barry's or something that's totally outdated and like not the thing to do anymore And I discovered I was like that's kind of appealing to me right now, but I do have an extreme. I Do like extremes like instead of just going to Pilates twice a week in my head. I'm like I like that too. Yeah Um, I love Both Barry's and if 45 I got into if 45 like randomly again. I got into it in like 2017 and Sydney

4:16Yeah, like every night and then I got into it again Recently a couple of years ago and what circuit circuit training is that what it is yeah circuit training I just the thing with that is um It's just quite fast and I think in less you know how to properly lift weights and like what to do in those areas you can hurt yourself quite easily and I can really imagine you Yeah, like pulling the floor back to the table Myself trying to like deadlift 100 kilos. Yeah, um, but I think Barry's is I mean Barry's is sort of similar, but I think the weight stuff they do is less Um, like it's it's not as hard to get your head around I feel like I could see you doing I know I hate spin that we know I hate spin too Hate it and would love the idea of it like love the idea of being in a room blasting like the spy skills at 9 a.m With a bunch of like girls and games that I hate cycling. Yeah, yeah, I really really don't like it either

5:21It makes me feel weird Like it makes me Yeah, it makes it makes you feel like I'm just like peddling peddling, but like what am I peddling for? I don't know It actually does like it does do that crazy thing where You're in dolphins and then like they're saying the positive stuff and then you like start crying like that that has happened to me in spin for sure and I can't coordinate the up and down like I don't Not either and then I start with an arm stuff with the weights that I'm not I'm so uncoordinated So But I what I actually really could see you getting into what I think that you Spiritually should be into is running because yeah, it's something that's kind of like The one thing about it. I think I think Once you got into it, you would just be like this suits me so much because you can listen to a podcast and run the Or a beautiful park. I love that you can do it slow and at your own pace and at any time you want and it like I

6:24I love that idea too I really do because I don't walk like Maybe walking just you Maybe walking just think because I hate walking I love the dye that go for a walk Yeah, I don't like a A meaningless walk, but I I love the idea Like the best time I had last year with Eli was when I realized that if he was in the prime and moving he was just happy So I would walk to like so-ho And then nodding I'd walk like 35,000 steps in a day or something because I just would walk the whole city and I loved that Um, but now he doesn't like being in the prime as much so I'm finding it harder and I can feel myself getting like a bit lethargic from not moving as much I just I can't do at home. I can't do I keep being like you have to learn discipline you have to learn focus you it's just so It's no, oh, so there's a really cute. Oh, no, you don't look around there anymore But I think what you should do is just try find a little we take

7:26Jim around your area and then just start going to classes there like whatever classes they do like if they do a strength class if they do a circuit class um, I kind of hate hit classes um Yeah, doing like a strength class is cute. Yeah, I love that. I love that you're probably muscular arms I love having muscles muscles like um I suddenly noticed that when I was rewatching friends years ago. I was like oh their arms They like Courtney Cox and Jennifer I said how that must they're not just like they were muscle-y I think these these girls are strong These girls are ripped. These girls are nice. I just went to Alex the other day. I was like I want you to come to reform it with me because I know that I'll be so much better than you At it and he was kind of a little cocky where he was like I'm pretty like I'm not going to be that bad and I was like A you will be mb I'm really fit and then I was like oh my god He doesn't even know me as a fit person because since he's known me. I haven't really I've been going to Pilates like every

8:29Other day, but nothing other than that and whereas I used to be just like run all through London winter Just running and running and running and I was like this this fucking guy Doesn't even know that I'm a fit strong girl That's like special though because I don't have we talked about this I listened to the audio book of meaning and captivity as steparls book recently Did you yeah, it was because I listened to her on Bella Freud's podcast and she was talking about it And I was like oh, I've read her book the state of affairs, but I haven't read meaning and captivity It's like so mind-blowingly amazing I feel like when I listen or read books like that. I think it's so crazy That that information just exists out there and every single person doesn't have to read it because it would save So many relationships It's yeah, she basically says that that there's this idea in like Western particularly american romance that Increased intimacy is like closeness and knowing more about each other and knowing each other's thoughts and involving each other and like more and more parts of your life

9:30So talking to them about everything that's going on with work everything that's going on with your friends Everything you ate in a day everything like that's what builds intimacy And her whole argument is like that's what kills intimacy because the reason you're so attracted to your partner when you first meet them Is like they feel separate to you and there's so much you don't know and that's where like eroticism exists in the separateness So she says the whole dance is obviously when you are with someone long-term Naturally like there's less separateness because you have all the same friends You know each other's family and there's like routine and stuff But you have to work to maintain The separateness in your relationship So like she talks about letting your partner see you in context They're not used to seeing you because so many people say it's when they're most attracted to their partner when they go Oh, I didn't know this about you or like oh, I don't know you were The fittest girl in the Pilates glasses something it gives them like a new context when they start to feel like they know Everything totally that's so true

10:30But yeah, it's it's very hard obviously because it's like when you're Living together Yeah, but I kind of I kind of even noticed that recently because I mean now it's just kind of he travels a lot Which which does add to the that's like that's like obviously a good thing for the yeah for keeping the eroticism or whatever And even just like tonight he was like Is it go yeah, should I do this dinner with these like guys in New York Who are just like this this different this group of like random people that came together for this kind of Intellectual summit at his at the mountain a few months ago, and he was like oh, I found it really Stimulating and maybe we should all meet in New York or should I just go get a drink with like our mutual friend with page And I was like I do it. I was like do whatever And he looked okay. I think I'm gonna do this Dinner and I was like okay, and I was just so zoned out like not even thinking about it And then he was like yeah, there's dinner party. I'm throwing and I was like wait what you're throwing I thought you guys were going to a restaurant He was like no like this girl. I know has this crazy loft in New York and she started like hiring it out for people to

11:32Have dinner events and so now all of that then we're coming to it And then she's also inviting 15 people when it's this huge dinner party He's like co-throwing with this girl in New York, and I was like what And I was like that I was like what is going on tonight Like if that was Yeah, like Yeah, and this this happened like two days ago and this this sort of taken me like like four years and like 70 Zoom calls to organize Um, but like it's that thing it's just being like wait who is this person who are these people? What is this space? Where are you going and it like adds to that like mystique Totally such a nice thing. I don't have that at all. I just sit at his house like all day every day when he's not there Yeah, but it's it's also like the I I found with Zach recently was like anything to do with creative projects or something I try to Get him across every single element of it in this way that's it's kind of like why who are you doing this for?

12:33It's there's something nice about like being on your own shit and being like just in your own world and your own land doing your own thing and not Fort like shoving someone into every element of that. It's just very easy to do Yeah, but there was something I loved loved about like how it felt to just sit with things that I didn't have to spill And when you're home with a baby all the time you're kind of just like When they come home Yeah, and I can feel myself just Boring him to fucking tears like because also nothing's happened as well I mean, I'm like that with the animals like when I when I let my guard down and I start being my true self I'm literally like look at look at Polly look at her look. I'm like sending videos Yesterday I was like sending videos of of Polly at work just being like look at her like and then I was like, okay This is not that interesting. Keep it to yourself. Okay Okay, you know, yeah, I I feel like it's a very good Thing to remember because we were kind of doing the opposite thing where it was like a couple of weeks ago

13:36We were just like, oh my god. I love doing everything together. Let's just start doing everything together Which is beautiful. Yeah, yeah, but I was like let's like I was like when you go swimming I'll go to Pilates and then we'll get home at the exact same time and then we'll make dinner together And then we'll do this together and like that is very cute, but Yeah, there's something so romantic about just like Doing your own thing and it is so hot seeing someone Have their own shit going on. Yeah. Yeah 100% I want to listen to it. I didn't realize it was about that at all Yeah, it's really really good. It's about eight hours on audible like it's not crazy long a little audible cranked back up Back on speaking of audible. I just Whipped through Sharon Stone's memoir Love fucking love Sharon Stone. I am obsessed with her So last week when we were like I think we just finished the pod and I was like oh my god. Sorry my phone's blowing up Um and my friend was asking if I could interview Sharon Stone

14:39Like the next day and I was like oh my god because it's my special day and I'm going away Um a beautiful text to receive nonetheless Yeah, beautiful video. I know I was like I was like I really want to but I was like is there any flexibility? Like it's literally my birthday. I'm not in LA Which is like no flexibility and I was like okay, we're late fine And then they moved it to those day So I could do it And I like I've always loved her kind of abstractly like I don't I actually watched her in casino and um January Yeah, love which was the first time I'd ever seen it at the and I saw it at the cinema which was amazing and then I Yeah, it was like basically Started playing her memoir lids so much about her rewatch her and basic instinct on my birthday night Which was here in the form and um Then interviewed her and she was It's perfect Was the interview for her memoir or did her memoir come out a while ago

15:40Her memoir came out ages ago. It was just kind of like an easy way for me to Her memoir came out remember when everyone said talking about the scene and basic instinct and how she didn't realize that That was what was happening is that true so she genuinely wasn't told So she had underwear on and the shot was meant to make it look like she didn't have underwear on Well she while she still did and then the director told her that She was like, oh, can you just take the underwear off because it's kind of reflecting on the camera So it can tell that you have underwear on so she took it off not realizing they could see straight at first go And then the first shit Yeah, and then the first time she saw that scene was in a like room full of The whole casting crew watching it for the first time and she freaked out left the room called her lawyers Was gonna try and like get the whole thing shut down And then she says in a memoir that she sat back for a second and was like I need to see this outside of myself and I need to just see this as like a movie and what's gonna make the best movie

16:41And obviously that's an insanely amazing shot if it wasn't my own vagina and so she Ended up letting them do it, but she was like super shocked had no idea That's really fascinating because Yeah, it's it it remains like I think in an era where there's so much over oversaturation and so much like sexualization and porn and whatever It's it's like still to this day when you watch it quite scandalizing But not because it's so Um It's not even it's not even that like Well the first time I saw it I was like, oh this is what everyone made such a big deal about like it's a small tiny moment It's literally just like half a second half a second There's something so erotic about it because it's so I don't know it's like because it's not so What is the word I'm trying to think of? It's not like penthouse like it's like it's something more restrained is just like the definition of an iconic cinema moment

17:43So it's very cool that I don't like that that's how it came about But it's very cool for to have seen that Totally yeah, but it's also very hard to convey now the amount of Like the uproar that caused yeah, yeah, it was Absolutely insane like she went from being I know everybody to being the most famous person in the entire world Not just because that film was a huge success, but because of that scene and so she was just like It was she was it was a scandalized like she was being called a whore She was being like chased down the street. She couldn't go anywhere and public anymore The police had to move her out of her house like I don't even understand. I was reading this interview for research and they and They said that when I think they were trying to convey how famous she was, but they said when OJ was on the run I think I think what they were trying to say was like when OJ was on the run and all the police and all of the world

18:44We're watching this car chase down the freeway Other police officers had to come to Sharon's turns house and move her into a safe house because she was so unsafe from like fans Oh, wow, I didn't I didn't I still didn't really get the OJ correlation I was like was he coming for her or just fans But she had to get moved into a safe house because she was just yeah, it was like So Hector and she also said it was crazy because she got paid. I think um My god, what's his name Michael Costa he got paid yeah, Michael does he got paid $15 million for that role and she got paid seven hundred thousand And he was already like a massive actor and she was she was a nobody to the point where I think 12 actresses had refused the role before they actually But was it wasn't casino before Because is it no casino was after great. I thought casino was her breakout role No, yeah casino is her second big one. I mean it was like right after So cool, but Yeah, so she got paid seven hundred thousand dollars and it's suddenly having to have the enough money to

19:47Yeah, like doesn't have the infrastructure. Yeah, she doesn't have the infrastructure. She's lived on in a normal house That's wild But her life has been absolutely Insane so she in 2001 like right after the fucking 911 she suffered a brain aneurysm She had like a like a stroke And then was bleeding in the brain for nine days without anyone realizing and she was like so she went into the hospital But no one knew what was going on with the bleeding in the brain And then she back she got told she had a one percent chance of survival and survived it and then for years afterwards like couldn't hear out of one ear couldn't walk properly like So crazy Hmm. Oh, she's so heaven. So what's what what was she like when you met her? she So she's no one for being kind of Like what's the word? I think she's like breastly

20:49Yeah, and I think it's just because she kind of she's very smart. She knows her word. She talks she speaks her mind She says how much she talks about feminism all the time she talks about like I don't know women aging and Hollywood she talks about I don't she's just very outspoken and I think people obviously like hate that and a woman in a woman Basically the my editor who commissioned me was just like I just want You to know that like maybe at the start she might take a second to warm up to you And I was kind of like Honestly, I love that about a person. I love that. That's why I love cats Yeah, right run up and jump on everyone's fucking lap and lick them in the face before you Let everyone over you like a challenge. Yeah, and um So I went into it kind of just Not I was I was just like I'm gonna match her energy But also through reading her This is so funny because it makes me sound like I'm like saying something really nice about myself But through reading her memoir I kind of realized she's quite psychic

21:51And I think she really reads people's energies and I was like I'm gonna come into this channeling the energy of my raky mother Yeah, and like just be very chill and and kind of and she At the start Was a little like who are you? Basically, and I was like honestly fair enough her where my your sharing stone And then she warmed up and she was amazing and she was so funny and it was this interview Between I don't know how much I can actually say before it comes out of like the format, but she was Hilarious and she's been painting since the pandemic and she's like She basically picked up a paintbrush from the pandemic She was really good at painting when she was younger and she went to art school before she dropped out and started acting and Her paintings are amazing Like she she's very very good at it. It's because she actually she paints all day every day in her house And she doesn't even like I don't I don't know if she doesn't care about acting anymore, but I think paintings given her this like

22:52Way to be artistic and creative without having to rely on anyone else and she's just like one over the art world It's like so I got it. It's so cool I always think especially nowadays that the coolest job in the world is being a painter There's just something about like being in a room with the canvas and the pet like I just read this I try to go to Tracy Evans new retrospective at the tape on Friday, but they it's like so insanely I've never thought to book a ticket for exhibition in advance and it was like You can go in four hours. It was really weird Wow But I read this book that has just been published. I can't what it's called It's called my heart is this and it's conversations with her and this art critic about Because you know Tracy. I meant it used to be all those like neon signs like the neon writing that was really what she was known for As well as like my bed the installation stuff That now she basically just paints and this whole book is about this whole process of her Avoiding painting. She's so fucking cool. She did this

23:54She was kind of painting kind of doing photography kind of doing installation pieces And then wanted to get back into painting in like the early 2000s And so she did a performance art piece in like Amsterdam Where it was just her naked in a room trying to make herself paint for like 10 days And you could just come and like watch her and she'd sleep and like eat and go to the bathroom and then try and paint again And she'd paint something in destroy it and whatever but she turned that Into the art which is so cool But uh, she just writes so late in this book so much of it is about how exactly the same thing she sits in a studio nine hours a day every single day Um, I felt so jealous reading it and she said that her favorite painting She's ever done which a lot of people consider to be like a masterpiece. It's called my ship or something She painted it. It's like such icon behavior. She painted it Looked at it and was like fuck that's I think the best painting I've ever done sent a photo to her Like assistant and her galorist or her agent or something

24:55Ah, and they're like holy fuck that's amazing And then she got wasted drunk two bottles of wine and like painted over and woke up and took it and was like what the fuck My god And then she spanned it around and like played with it some more and then she was like and then it was even better Yeah Got drunk and painted over it Drunk and painted over it drank like two bottles of wine. She's so she's painted the coolest Painters are the fucking coolest. Yeah, and I Yeah, but also like I get obviously obviously you have to have the talent but at the same time Sharon Stone was just like She just locked herself in her bedroom. She said her sons were like please mom Until like come out like she's like Just bought all of these canvases and then so it's selling her furniture so the canvases would fit in the house Like she was just like deranged and we're just paint and paint and paint and her whole thing is like She says in her memoir at one point that like she loves which is I don't know why it kind of just stuck with me

25:58She talked about how she loves meeting priests or monks or like rabbis just anyone who Who has this Faith but also just like a vocation and dedicates their lives to something and learning about something and kind of like living Living for it and then she was like and then she also talks about discipline a lot And she just she just she's I mean to be fair like I actually love her like early work almost the most But she's just gotten better and better and she started doing so it was um landscapes very like abstract expressionism type emotive sort of like paint Slashes and then she started doing portraits which I don't like as much and now she's gone back to landscapes And it was so iconic when I was talking to her she was like I She was like I just painted this today and it was just like above her five place already Like the game just icon babe. I was just like I just want it up there Completely. It's so good. Yeah, and then it said I googled Sharon Stone reviews and it says the second searches

27:02How did Sharon Stone lose 18 million dollars and it says that it was this in the book. She All her finances were like mismanaged while she was recovering from her stroke Yeah Just you know that discuss oh no, no, I don't know. I I like kind of a remember if that wasn't uh Um, but I'm just sending you my favorite Why did they not work? A very piece of her arm. Oh beautiful. It's so so nice, right? It really is um But yeah, absolute icon very very funny Hey, this is Paige the Sorbo from gigley squad and today I want to talk to you about boost mobile quick question Why are we letting our phone bills bully us? Here's a money tip stop paying a carrier tax when you bring your own phone And switch to boost mobile's $25 unlimited forever plan you can unlock up to $600 in savings That's real life money not money trapped in a pricey phone bill

28:03$600 is a trip a shopping spree or paying something off your money belongs in your life You get unlimited data talk and tax for $25 a month with no contracts and no minimum line requirement Your phone your rules had to boost mobile com to switch today and unlock the savings you actually deserve After 30 gigabytes customers may experience lower speed Customers pay $25 per month while active on boost mobile unlimited plan Savings claim based on a January 2026 boost mobile survey comparing average annual payments of major carrier customers to 12 Months on the boost mobile unlimited plan visit boost mobile dot com for details Howdy howdy ho and welcome to fantasy fanfellas. I'm Hayden producer of the fantasy fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson and I'm Steven your bookish internet goofball, but you can call me the smash daddy And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic misborn, but here's the catch Steven here has not read misborn before that's right hey hey So each week you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to every single chapter and along the way

29:04We'll do character deep dives magic explainers and Steven will even try to guess what's next spoiler alert He'll be wrong news flash. I'm never wrong episodes come out every Wednesday and you can find fantasy fanfellas wherever you get your podcasts Um And yeah, I'm just glad she exists. I want her to have another exhibition In LA so I can yeah, so you can go so you can buy one for the abode Um, should we talk about we talked to last week about the Oscars and Vanity Fair Afterparty um, but like in the days afterwards this like Uh, a Hollywood reporter article came out about how scandalized all the attendees were by the bad lighting And I have to say the lighting was truly Fishes there's not the word for it. I don't I can't understand how that happened especially with the new EIC kind of

30:04Cutting the guest list and half and being super um strategic and like I don't know about the whole thing like how was the lighting that bad I had a moment of being like was it on purpose as like a talking point or like a putting celebrities in their place or something because it just felt like Difficult to imagine how that could slip through the cracks because it's not hard to light people in a flattering way like the Like it was it was harsh and light than normal I don't know just like a flash camera paparazzi photo that's like absolutely not being lit like it was it was Raw overhead Like the trumpets and that issue Uh, so I I did wonder like I don't know. He seems like a bit of a master of The spin and publicity and I'm like I don't know. I's probably too conspiratorial, but I just don't I just feel like he wouldn't want to

31:06To be pissed off. Yeah, he cut the guest list and half and then he wants the people who come to want to come back obviously I And I like completely heinous unforgivable way. Obviously. I loved it because it was like fascinating to see or There's always this sense I think of like people in Hollywood now get this work done that like make some look good On camera or in like a filtered Instagram photo, but if especially when we've seen people at the shows and stuff in real life looks quite jarring um, but you never Really see it, but I don't know. It's just it was just strange I felt too close to home for me. I literally had a dream the other night that I It's like snow white at a dream that I looked in the mirror and then and I'd wrinkles everywhere

32:06But it was like I was this old, but I was like But I was like no, but like I was I was the same. I dream now. I look the exact same. I do now But I just like it was like this close up and there were like all these crazy wrinkles under my eye like everywhere And I was like, oh my god. This is just what I look like right now. What the hell? L.A. Dream. Permiated my Yeah, my subconscious Yeah, I mean, I haven't like clipped through all of the images, but I but I feel like at my it must have been a mistake But also how could it have been a mistake because when you do lighting like you do a billion tests You're people stand there and you check the lighting. Exactly. I think I think it was like I'm not saying that he planned to Make people look at attracting them like a gotcha way But I think he wanted the images to look differently this year or for it to feel a bit more like I think he was trying to do something different Right. Yeah, yeah, just the color Like the gray I know

33:07What is this bit that's like so the the quotes which is truly outrageous, but one of them was really funny Also while you find out I want to talk about the carpet for a second because I saw this Real of this girl who went this is went to the Oscars the next morning after they packed down and was trying to get Some of the red carpet for her house And she got there at 8 a.m. And then she was like fuck it's all gone like it's it's completely cleared out like the whole things That I know I I knew I should have gone to her at 5 and she was like let me just go check the dumpsters And she goes around the back and they've just dumped all of this carpet in the van Wait, is this is this a thing people voted Like it's not a thing. She just she just did it. Oh That's insane. I know and then she um Went around the back and then was just so but it was like huge like huge rolled up things like you she couldn't carry So she's like in the trying to get in the dumpster to get the smallest piece she can find And the smallest but she can find is still like a huge huge rug

34:08And so she's like Hauling it like pulling it down the road and she gets at home and cuts it and gets it cut and put into her house Put into her house because it's like good quality. I don't know if it would be good Why would it why they're like why did she want it? I Guess just for like free rug The drugs are expensive I think they just aren't expensive, but yeah, I would say something to not get good quality if they're gonna like throw it in the van the next day Exactly, and is it true? Is it trodden? I guess it's it's like kind of a piece of history. I would ask them yes The foot shapes of Gwyneth and Timmy and Nicole Someone goes in this article. I've been shot at a million parties of anonymous long-time Oscar party fixture I've been shot at a million parties, but the setup for that party was always sublime when you pose for the pat at the vf Gala even the ugliest stars knew they'd come out all right. It was like magic And they say but on the side of the stars

35:10It was so crazy right there. I felt like I was standing under clear glides. It was like a hundred degrees. Anyway, I I listened to the new editor um Mark Is it judu judu chi? Gwadu chi? Yeah, it's the anti-anti-anti-atalian behavior. Mark even pronounced swallowing Gwadu chi went on pucks The the the town talk of the town I listened to it too after you said that to me. Did you love it? I thought it was so great I was like I love that there's interviews like this happening now where they're a little bit combative and Yeah, I did really like it. The part guy was funny. He was just like tell me who you cut from the gist list And he was like, I'm not gonna do that. He was like a magazine's even relevant anymore. Come on tell the truth They're not because he found it. I found it park Matthew Bellamy and um Was it the Hollywood report of ages and I like how bullish he was on it

36:14Yeah, he was like let me tell you what I think it vanity fear. Yeah, he was like okay I know I didn't even realize it was video I was driving and realized it was video into a halfway through and then I put the video on my phone Was I drove just like it's his facial reactions there was these weird cuts like I think he Called him afterwards. I was like cut that cut that cut that Oh, really? I didn't know. It was just like awkwardly. There was just some awkward cuts, but they think that's really funny Yeah, yeah Um, that's really funny because I kind of thought that I was like it's crazy that they're just like leaving the whole thing Um, but when he was like he was like okay, you tell me What your idea of you're like your new vanity ferris and let me tell you what the role of vanity ferris And he was like the problem is which is kind of what we've seen is that You he was talking about Hollywood specifically and he was like you don't like You kind of have to be you kind of have to do puff pieces today Yeah, you could it like access journalism which is probably a phrase forever, but I was like that's literally it like you can't

37:17To get the access you can't do Proper journalism anymore because why would someone talk to you? Yeah, it's like why would a PR lead someone be on the cover if they think you're gonna Thrash them, but Mark was basically being like that's not true Like we do and he was like like the politics one of like all the Republicans um, and he was just like No, I'm not talking about politics. I'm talking about Hollywood like I don't see you guys slamming celebrities or slamming like A director or someone just big in Hollywood anymore because Yeah, and you're not gonna get the access to not only that celebrity, but every other celebrity that PR Thumb represents and like most of them and just with the three big major ones That I that's sorry the thing I meant to say before that was why it was in my head of why I thought maybe the vanity ferris lighting was on purpose Because we didn't really talk about it at the time because it was over Christmas and we were on break That there was this big scandal with his vanity fair where he sent a photojournalist into the White House and then like proceeded to take quite truly the most heinous images

38:20You could ever imagine of like the JD bands and like I think Rubio and a few other people and he says look we do that. We're not afraid to take on the White House But it's like he is never gonna get access to the White House ever ever ever again Like that's just the reality of the way it works. So he did that one time but um Yeah, the point kind of stands. It's funny that the interviewers with Park because in a lot of ways Park is kind of doing What old vanity fair did because they're like upstudy and Less polished and they are kind of able to go after things in that way Like Lauren Sherman can be really honest about what she thinks about shows and like what rumors are in the fashion industry because they're not sponsored by Louis Vuitton and Dior Exactly. What else was he saying in that that was interesting? He said yeah, he's cutting the part you cut the party size and half um Because he wants to make it more exclusive again because basically vanity fairs kind of become

39:21Which is what this which is what the guy on the podcast was saying he was just like Yeah, so you know like the vanity fair party is now just a place where people like pop in then they leave Because there's too many people there and there's people taking videos and then they go to like fiancee's party Which is where they really want to be Um, but it kind of is that thing if like people will pop in Pajrata, I think ocean john's party is the same people like pop in and then they go to vanity fair If they have an invite and then if they have an invite to a different one they leave vanity fair and all the people that Don't have invites other ones stay Yeah, yeah, it must be so complicated because there was this quote in this Hollywood reporter piece from Emma Stone Who made like a little bit of a snide comment about the vanity fair party She's uh someone asked if she was gonna be there and apparently she shrugged and said it's really weird Even if you're nominated it doesn't mean you can go like obviously Emma Stone was invited But I was thinking how probably back in the day The Emma stones of the world could just bring whoever they wanted because probably at those after parties

40:21You want to hang out with a bunch of people in like sound and music and like the crew on your film And if they're all suddenly like not allowed to come Must just be a head fog Yeah, like she was probably talking about how she thinks she can't get in with her friends or something. Yeah Yeah, because he also said the guy What's who's this pop pop guy what's her name? Uh, is it Matthew? Oh yeah, Matthew and Belonin Matthew Yeah, Matthew Maybe called Matt as a nickname. I'm not sure was like um He was like so can all the Oscar nominees go and he goes all the winners can go and I was like okay So like you don't know you're you're going to this party until you win And then he was like yeah, but like if Timothy Shalamey rocks up with all his publicists and like Yeah, producers and a and a crew of like 20 people can they get it and he was like yeah

41:23Sorry, not Timothy. Yeah, that was confusing. Um, Michael. We joined Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said Timothy because I think it was it was pretty it was it was like God god hell that guy looked stressed in that video. I was like I can only imagine The I don't even reckon he's getting that Yeah, actually he probably is I was gonna say he's probably not getting that much It's probably going through like other people in his team, but he probably is from like really have agents at like WM and stuff calling him and like screaming at him And have to be like Thank you Probably mainly screaming at his assistant or right, but some would get through Imagine man in the door Yeah, Hallesh, Hallesh, some of many people would show up without being on the list Yeah, and like you say they'd show up with an entourage of like like Timothy Shalamey would just arrive with like 20 people around him And they'd they'd just be trying to shove everyone in

42:26And people would be like wait what you got like god bless those door people Yeah, because also like I'm with Timothy like literally being walked in with Timothy Shalamey should get you in like would usually get you in absolutely anywhere Yeah Yeah, there his instincts are right. It's right to turn this into a Kind of court controversy in some ways and I liked that he at the end he doubled down and put him a liner on the cover um Which I like that he did that like he he kind of said we're trying to create Like journalism and like portraits of you know what vanity fair was in like the great and garter tina brown heyday The problem is like I understand the fantasy but it just isn't gonna happen like the the The only way that works is if someone is in you're in a power dynamic way you have to hand over that power to somebody

43:28Then just no one anywhere will Even like an aOC would do a cover maybe He said it was so interesting how he said that no Kardashian had ever been on the cover I vaguely remember that green cutter never wanted to cut actually on the cover Which is I mean you've got to give it to Anna like she really did put Kim on the cover at the precise moment that caused the maximum PR upset like it was perfect timing people lost their fucking minds Yeah So crazy It's funny also because you would think she like what I think of Anna as is not someone who wants to do that Yeah, she has these like instincts that are kind of baller Yeah No totally I would just think that she would be such a kind of um gatekeeper of the Kardashians not getting into fashion that she would like hate doing that yeah

44:29Yeah, I love that that's wrong. That's not true I'm curious what the next I saw and half the ways like on the cover of Harper's Bazaar promoting um Devil was part of two which I thought was interesting Hmm, I'm nervous for this movie. I don't know if I have if it has my full vote of confidence, but not at all Yeah, I saw the trailer again, and I was like the new trailer and I was like if these are the jokes they're pulling out for the trailer Yeah god help us um Honestly God help guys. I keep feeding to take my ADD pill. I'm gonna take it now I keep like I just can't remember it's 10 that's okay. I'll still go to sleep tonight The other day it was like midday and I was like should I take it should I not chat was like just try not to take it today And I was like I can't do a single thing Share someone goes I love you girls, but how much you use chairs really worried. That's a completely valid criticism

45:33We This morning I go. I know it's a really different, but there's me single parenting these two animals preparing me all for parent It definitely does. I know that's what I said because I literally got home last night spent four hours trying to research how to put a cat door in Hmm because there's like different like I was like can it go through this glass pain and like the dimensions are wrong I was like should it can it go here? I'm like measuring can it go here? This is hot literally took me four hours and then I was like imagine like looking up the fucking truck And then I was trying to find a new vet And I was like imagine if you were trying to look up like candy gardens and schools for your kids and like yeah Nannies and all this shit like the amount of research you have to do and then I work and then Polly was sick So I had to make her rice and boil chicken and then I was like this is just like nonstop I was right still still reading. I'm not finished So I feel like we could talk about it um Maybe on the patreon, but as part of that like you know how the cut did that

46:34Oh baby weak As part of it someone wrote a piece going maybe knowing too much about motherhood has ruined me. It feels impossible To pass through my wants and my anxieties and fears. I wish I knew less And I'm like halfway through reading it. It's really interesting. I think it's a really good point I think for me I really thought that I would be like a prepared reader Across things listening to podcasts and I kind of can't put into words how little I prepared For anything and I it was definitely better for me like I think there's a certain point at which Um, it's not to say it's all instinctual and you just know as much as it's like I don't really understand Wigging yourself out for something difficult Before Presents itself because there's to me it it was just never helpful to read about like what to do with this abstract concept of a kid That's not in front of you But the crazy part about it is like once they are in front of you and you're like what the fuck's happening Everything's so chaotic that you um

47:35Really struggle to find time to do any research, but I don't know I agree with the sentiment of that article The she's also saying she's not even researching She's not even reading about motherhood like that. She just has which is kind of like me so many friends with babies And she's in like a group chat of all of her friends of babies and they're talking about like breastfeeding and latching and like so boy Crazy crazy stuff non-stop and she was like One sick and she'll read it and be like God I could never do this and then the next sick and she'll read it and be like wait The joys of motherhood I need it and then the next sick and she's like I'm not like she was just like it's back and forth and it's like Driving me insane and I was like that's kind of funny because I think I like think about it so much Or like the ups and downs of it or the good and bad parts of it so much that it kind of makes me Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's it's not helpful because none of it. It's worth just yeah, she literally goes actually literally goes I am just kind of I'm just like maybe I just

48:38Fucking get pregnant and then there's no truth. There's no like thinking about it anymore Yeah, it's like getting a tattoo like you know, it's been the first time Think you get bad if you didn't have one because you just have one so you get on with it. Yeah Yeah Fish all interesting Um, okay girlies Okay, girls. Good. Bye. We love you Howdy howdy ho and welcome to fantasy fanfellas I'm Hayden producer of the fantasy fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things sanderson and I'm Steven your bookish internet Goofball, but you can call me the smash daddy and we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Missborn, but here's the catch Steven here has not read Missborn before that's right. Hey, hey, so each week you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to every single chapter and along the way We'll do character deep dives magic explainers and Steven will even try to guess what's next spoiler alert

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