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Gal Gadot

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Gal Gadot (The Runner, Wonder Woman, Fast & Furious) is an actor, action star, and former pageant winner. Gal joins Armchair Expert to discuss unexpectedly winning a beauty pageant, being thrust onto the front page of the New York Post at 21, and surviving cerebral venous thrombosis after the birth of her fourth child. Gal and Dax talk about being discovered for a Bond audition while studying law, reaching the point where she was ready to quit acting, and going from recovering in bed to training with an Olympic running coach for The Runner. Gal explains why struggle is essential to happiness, how parenthood constantly forces you to adapt, and why getting older can open you up emotionally.

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Welcome welcome welcome to armchair expert. I'm Dan Shepherd. I'm joined by Miniker Mouse. Hello. Today we have Gal Gadot. She is an actor. She is Wonder Woman. Snow White red notice fast and furious several. I think four fast and furious hardest stone. She has a new movie out on prime video September 2nd called the runner. It is a very high octane crazy. There's one runs for two hours. It's scared me. Yeah. She said it was 110 pages of running. Yeah. It's it's unreal. Tom Cruise has got to take notice of this. I feel like maybe she's thrown a gauntlet down. I like to see Tom running an entire movie. God knows he could, you know, if anyone could do it. That's right. He could do it. Please enjoy Gal Gadot.

Oh, and you're tall. Let's both tell you are. Hi Monica. Hi Monica. Hi, Zoe. Jenny. Choo. My hair stylist looks like. Oh, just like more than a Emmy. How do you know each other? She did Christmas. It does Christmas hair a lot. Oh, there you go. So you must know her too. No. Yeah. And we're all just in the way. We love Jenny. She's the best. So how did you guys started doing this together? Well, Dax wanted to do a pie. I was working with Kristen and I was at the house all the time. Dax wanted to start. It was like she doesn't do enough. Come do my pot. Yeah. We love to argue. So we generally have opposite opinions on any given topic. So our hobby when she worked for Kristen was I'd be walking through the kitchen and I'd be like, you're listening to cereal, right? Yeah. I'm like, you think Adnan did she like, he didn't do it. We just let her rip for an hour. I basically lived at their house. We were all hanging out from your house too. And then this. Yeah. And she lives directly across the street. So she walks 12 feet and I walked 30 feet. That's really

nice. We've been doing it almost nine years, eight and a half. You've been doing this for nine years almost. Almost. When they just started, you saw the potential with the podcast. No, we didn't. You were just looking for an arena to fight. Yeah. Yeah. Well, really I was starting to be on a lot of podcast as a guest. And I liked it so much more than say, although I like late night talk shows, because I'm a comedian. That's fun. But I liked going there and being like, I don't have a seven-minute chunk to be brilliant in. I can be my full self. And I remember leaving those interviews going like, well, that was really worthwhile. More than a normal interview. I just loved being on them. And I was like, I kind of want to do this. We're into a deeper dive. And it's fun to have someone you can venture with. Yeah. Because if it gets tiring or if it gets to whatever, then you come to the rescue and vice versa. Yeah. But especially. Did we start now? Yeah. We're always starting.

You know, you're my first. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Well, you chose a lot. I think so too. Yeah. It was. Without naming anyone or I don't have any specific complaint, but many of the podcasts, everyone involved as you see him opinion. Yeah, it's true. And I find that a little bit. Well, then why do we need a second person? Yeah, exactly. Let's just preach. Yeah. So she's a brown, tiny girl from Georgia. And I am a super small. Big old person out in Georgia. Deluth suburbs of Atlanta. Atlanta, basically. Atlanta. Yes. You've certainly made movies in Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah. Did any of those super here? I'm going to be just take place there. Mine were in London. Okay. She. Guys. I said Atlanta is not cheap. I love that bucket. Bucket area. I love that. Yeah. It didn't sound in my phone because they did not know. You were a good guy. You weren't told our slogan, which is A, B, R always be recording. Okay. No way. No. Rob starts it before we even walk in.

He's always trying to get real. Yeah. It's all running. Okay. Amazing. You never know. No, we caught something amazing, which was we interviewed Brett Pit last year. And so we're in here waiting for him to arrive in the nervousness between the two of us in particularly Monica. Why would you be nervous next to Brett? I know. It's like that's so strange. I'm never nervous. And so it was kind of a weird feeling. What sign are you? Double burgo. I'm a double tourist. Wow. We just have somebody else. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't have been back. Every guest has been into a straw. Jay and I got a year. You're the time for you. What are you? You're a tourist because you're very logical. That's how I use to. Okay. Hold on. I just want to say as an outside observer who's not in the religion. When I watch the exchange, it goes the same way every time it's like, are you a Pisces? No. I'm a Virgo. Oh, yeah. You're a Virgo. What are you? I'm a Sagittarius. Oh, yeah. I get it. Everyone gets excited about their sign and then really nothing beyond that. Which is kind of funny to observe. It's a common

denominator. I feel like it's a good icebreaker. And I find myself. So first of all, I'm a tourist. I'm logical. I never believed in astrology until one day I was home and I was cooking and the TV was on and they had this astrology time. Was the title of the show. It was back in Israel. And it was like a bunch of experts and you call from home and they do your maps and they tell you what to do in your life. I could not care less. I'm trying to switch the channel and I could not care less. I'm chopping the upper Jean and then they say our celebrity for today is Gal Gadot. I was 25 back then and I'm like, okay, I guess I'm going to let's see what they have to say. They were so accurate. They said she's influenced by Aries sign. Both of my parents are Aries. She's thinking about expanding her family. I was in my first few weeks of my first pregnancy and

it's not something you would say about a 25-year-old. Right. And then they said all these bunch of things and then I was like, oh, I got curious. Started investigating a little bit and now I don't lead my life with that. But I think it's complimented. It's like a good blush. It's a nice color. I agree. I agree. You're like, sure, sure. No, we are. That's a good respect. Hold on. No. From a capricorn. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. What I say. That's what I say. I recognize that we would all acknowledge we're very dynamic creatures and we're being influenced. Our context is so broad. It's physical. There's so many things influencing us. Right. I understand that you're like, this is a 8% sprinkling that I think contributes to this. Exactly. This is a little spice that I enjoy. It's just a fun. It's like a icebreaker. It's like a fun way to cut through. It's like, oh, I know something about this. Don't you find that sometimes you have phases in your life when you're more tired than your more low energy and everything and everyone around you are the same and then you realize that Jupiter is regressing.

Yeah. We're mercury. You need to be aware. That's sure. Sure. Okay. Never mind. Some people might call those spurious conclusions, but it doesn't matter. I'm going to say one time you start, I'm not a hater on it. It's not for me, but I don't have an axe to grind. You're open mind. But I just said this one funny thing. So I had an astronomy class in college and the teacher was telling us that he had so many different students that were constantly trying to argue the legitimacy of astrology. So he agreed to have a prominent astrologist come to the class and they were going to have a bit of a debate. Now again, this is coming from him. This seems a little community, but he got everyone's birthday and then he handed out these readings for each person and everyone in the class looked at their thing and my teacher said, I could see people going, oh, I'm feeling sitting. And then the guy got done and he realized he had an extra one in his hand. He was like, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Everyone pass it. Your left. I mean, I handed that one to the left and then they all look at their thing. They're like, okay, yeah, we love thinking about ourselves. So if you give me adjectives that you

say you'll find how it works. That's my take on it. And I don't mind that. That's fine. I like feeling no people like feeling no and seen and they're like, oh, that is me. Someone gets me. Yeah. You know what I did today. So I don't know. Maybe it's in America now. It's a trend as well, but in Israel today, there's a trend just today. It started to ask Chagypeti and or maybe it happened in America. I'm not yet. Ask Chagypeti to describe you in one word. Did you ever do that? We got to do it right now. That's right. Now thank you. This is fine. We never do real-time challenges. Okay. Please describe me in one word. Before I hit send, I just got to tell you this. I had a weird moment already this morning with my chat. Okay. Which is like, I've never told my chat. I'm Dak Shepard. I never told it to my and he knows I'm me. Right. But I've said, you know, I'm interviewing so and so. I had this weird recollection of running into you. You know, it's also murky doing press for 20 years. I'm like, I kind of feel like when

I was doing chips press, you were maybe doing justice league press. I just thought that in my mind. So I asked Chagypeti. Have I ever been on a talk show with Gail? And my chat said, no, but she was promoting blank. So maybe like this thing I just told you it came up. But then fun here it goes on to say, but you and Kristen were on the red carpet with her at the Golden Globes War in 17 and I'm like, it's so weird that it's saying you and Kristen. I haven't told him. I'm I know but if it knows it's very weird. It's very weird. All right. So I will now please describe me in one word. I hope it says asshole. Curious or going at it would never. It's here to please. What does everyone get curious? Mine says curious. My mom. My mom. My mother-in-law. You're curious. Okay. I'm determined. You guys. Oh really? Okay. So everyone doesn't get curious. This is real time because I was like, my sister was caring. My friend was family oriented. Another friend

was multitasking. Okay. They've got different to me and you got curious. But it's probably because you use it a lot because that's what you do. You're curious about people in your interview. You're asking a lot of questions. Arra. I am very curious. That's why this show exists. But what else could it conclude? I only interact with it to ask it for questions. I'm determined. So what are your searches generally? Why do I search? So I use multiple. I use propaxity if I want to do comparison with other stuff to do more research. Chat is like my Google. Yeah. I just ask all the questions and yet you didn't say I was curious. Yeah. Okay. My mom and another friend of mine and my mother and little Archie. So are your questions task related? Like how do you like how do you get to the objective? No. They're not. Okay. I don't doubt it could know me better than I know myself. If you have comments, you should have your viewers. Yes. Write down theirs and you'll see a lot of them won't be curious or determined. But what if they

just say curious if they don't really know us? I don't know if he knows me well. I don't like him. So maybe I'm always suspicious of him. That's why I never told him I'm me and I got so upset when I realized he knew. Yeah. I should have. Then I would have suspected it a little more. I would have respected him. I said, do you know what my job is? I have a pretty good guest but I don't think you've explicitly told me your exact job title from everything we've talked about. No. No. And you're a pillow. Yeah. From all of our hands. I guess you work in podcasting entertainment with X-Shopper. Particularly on the creative branding and production side with the close connection to armchair expert and Monica Padman. Oh. So we do this. I think your Emma. I don't know. What do you say? What do you say? I know. But how tall am I? I'm gonna say what do you think my name is? Well, ask how tall. How tall do you think Emma who works on the show is what is Emma? 510?

Yes. She's very tall. Yeah. I think she's six foot actually. You're tall too. 510 and a half 510 without a really nice. I'm really jealous. I think you were up at six feet with those heels. Yeah. What's the deal with peptides? Are you on peptides? Oh god yeah. You are? Oh yeah. Tell me. You're not? No. How could you not be? You're so athletic. I'm just athletic because I always been. We're gonna get in to why you're athletic because I know. You did your decision. But all the more reason that you would want to know about peptides. I spoke to a few doctors and all of them scared the shit out of me from taking peptides. Well first of all, there's a cotrillion peptides right? GLP1 is a peptide. Right. That's the only one that has enough research and all of that. Well not true but. GLP1. Yeah. It's not the only one that has enough research. Generally what's happening, which was the case with the GLP1, is that was a medicine developed for diabetics to regulate A1C, right? So then they discover all these off-label effects of it and they just can't ignore what they're seeing. Oh, when we try to treat these

people for diabetes, they're also losing weight. Their metabolic health is also improving. So now you can apply this thing you've observed. But many of the peptides are definitely being used off-label for what they were intended to. Originally treat. So one of them being Tessa Morlin, right? This was developed for AIDS patients in the 80s. What they found while people were on this treatment is like, oh, they're losing all their abdominal fat. That's interesting. But it's a crazy safe peptide that's been being used on all these people for a very, very long time. And one of the unintended consequences was reduction in belly fat. So it's not tested or not safe. It hasn't been tested for belly fat reduction, but it has been used for so many years. Yes, exactly. Since 86. Here's the problem. People are conflating two things. Are peptides dangerous or are how people are getting peptides dangerous? The second one, the latter, yes. So dumb, dumb guys on the internet are ordering shit from China for lab use only. And they

don't know what they're getting. And it might not have the actual peptide in it. And it might be infected. So unfortunately, because that's happening now, it's like, well, peptides are dangerous. No, crazy shit from China that's intended for lab use is dangerous. It also is if you do too much. I mean, again, anything can be. And I want to be fair. They can be dangerous. So even the test of Marlonal. What it does is it tells your pituitary gland to make more of your own human growth hormone. So you know people take HGH. Exagenously. That's dangerous. That's dangerous. It is. It's not good for cancer and all these reasons. And even if you do have active cancer cells and you increase your own body's HGH, that could be problematic. So you need to get screened. You need to get blood panels every three months. You got to do it with a doctor and be observed. And how often do you do it? Daily. Everyday. Yeah. In injections. Right. Wow. This is probably the most transparent I've been about. I mean, I say I'm on them. Amazing. Well, thank you. All right. Not in the old sick, like, you know, get it on. Yeah. You love to hear that. I'm never appreciated by women. This is one of my

complaints. Guys all the time. I'm like, bro, what's your diet? I appreciate strong bodies. Okay. Everybody looks very strong. They said it's from the first minute. They saw you. Yeah. I need any. You're doing great. I'm not going to do any at least not at this point. And I'm not where you are. As you were like so confident about it and probably have done much more research than I did. Well, I have a doctor. You know, I have a hormone doctor. But I'm open to if it's not risky. Yeah. If it's not dangerous and if it doesn't feed into cancer cells and all these things. At some point when you're parimoniposal or menopausal, you'll explore hormone therapy. It's so impactful. It's crazy women were denied any help in that. I was just watching last night. I show about it. It's again in Israel. It's a documentary show about this amazing woman who's a journalist in Israel. And the name of the show is I'm hot. I'm cold. Oh, yeah. And she explored everything. And again, like with peptides, it's amazing to see in the scale. There's like the people who are

super pro at and the people who are also doctors who are extremely against it. Yes. And it's all about the cancer and feeding the cells. And essentially, I think that if you end up doing anything like this, you need to do it the right way. And just make sure you check yourself. Do you know Dr. Mary Claire Haver? You should follow her on Instagram. She's kind of like one of the main faces of the menopause treatment. Hearing that appause. Yeah. She's like out there always giving tips. Isn't it amazing how women's health is something that when you compare it to men's health, and I'm not saying it is a bad thing, it just as a fact, there's so many things that had never been fully deeply thoroughly explored in the same way with men. And you know the historical explanation for it. Can I take off my shoe? Yeah. Yeah. That's round one we thought maybe we'll get down to our essentials are unmanagementables at some point. The step one is great. The historical explanation is women make terrible research subjects because you have your period. Because throughout

the month, you're going to have very dramatic arises and falls in your hormone levels. Is what it is. It is what it is. It's not an excuse to study women, but that was the explanation given. It's like if I take your blood, I'm trying to test you for this one thing, but then 15 days out, I get this weird result. I don't know you're this one. Exactly. I'm not depending on researchers wherever you are. I'm not depending. We just had an expert on about fatherhood. I'll tell you when men are not studied is parenting. There's almost no fucking studies on men in parenting. That's a big, big problem. We're locked in these vestigial terrible gender things that exclude us from understanding each other. But yeah, also all the medication that applies to women, they've just tested on men. And then it reacts very differently on women. It's like, well, yeah, because you didn't test anything out on us. The best is ambian. That was the one that I think that's what caused America to go hold on hold on. Why aren't we testing on women? Because it turns out, you know, ambian is twice as powerful in women than men. I didn't know that. Still to this day.

Oh, yeah, yeah. So doctors were prescribing the same dose of men and women and men are like, oh, it's great. I love it. I fell right asleep and then women are like, yeah, I got up and I drove my car. All right. What the fuck in seven women got snapped? I was like, what the fuck? I'm wondering if there's bonkers behavior. Oh, man. Yeah, and they're like women are crazy. Yeah. It's like, nope, just the medicine. So many different fields in health had been super explored when it came to men and very little exploration when it came to women. I had, I'm sure you did that research. Well, that's CVT. It's a re-broadvenous trombosis in my head when I had a baby. It's a kind of a stroke. It's a rare stroke. Oh, scary. Only three percent of strokes are these kind, right? I don't know the number. That was my research of you. Yeah, yeah. You know that because you know why? Why? You're very curious. But it's basically three of my vines as venus. Vines. Venus. Venus. Venus? I don't know. English, by the way, it's going to happen a lot. I love that.

We love that. We love that. About it. As long as you understand what I'm saying, yeah, we're blocked and it was because of the hormones and because it was pregnant and it happens. I didn't know it was even a thing. And many times what happens is that women get the clots in their brain and then they have the baby and then soon after the delivery, they get a stroke. Women were not aware of it. Yeah. I wasn't aware it was a thing for pregnancy. Did they put you on a blood thinner to deal with that? And that's miserable, right? I've had friends on blood thinners and they hate it. It was very bad. And another thing, I feel like my doctor, my neurologist didn't take me seriously enough. Mike. I don't know what you're saying. It's a good guy. Yeah. I think it's just the attitude of she's a woman. She's just being dramatic. It's because you like I have headaches. Okay. And then if you're black, it's like three X the data of not being believed for your pain. So it's like there's all these stratates. Like if you're a woman, you're fucked. And if you're five,

we're not going to take anything you say seriously. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, I had major headaches throughout my pregnancy. And then the last three weeks of my pregnancy, I was not able to do anything. I was home in bed, dark, quiet, ac. That's it. But you're fighting the pain. Now I know I was like in and out of conscious. It felt like toothache in your brain. Oh, that's a lot of pain. And then you pass out. And then, but I thought I was fine. So it was already restricting. I didn't know. Yeah. And they checked me. And I didn't show any symptoms. The back of my high pressure was fine. My blood pressure was fine. Therefore he thought I was just having a migraine until one day. My mom was like enough three weeks. You're not doing anything. Go get an MRI. And I asked to get an MRI for so many things he wouldn't send me. Were they saying they didn't want to give you an MRI because you were pregnant? I don't know. They're probably just like insurance. They don't want to push it. Yeah. Why? I want my own MRI. I know. It was going on. Let's share it.

But anyway, then they found out I wasn't like almost dead. Oh, afterwards my wonderful neurosurgeon who did the operation told me that usually when they see this type of blockage, people are in coma. Yeah. I was supposed to be in coma. So what was the operation? Trumbectomy. They put like stints in there. How do they? They didn't. They can. They can. Or any reason and stuff. But that's not what I had. They go from your crutch all the way your brain. And they try to take out the clotting. That feels very dangerous. And you were pregnant during this surgery. No, they waited. So I did the MRI. They called me immediately on the way home. They called me to come to Cedar Sinai. That was amazing. Cedar Sinai. I love you. Shout out to my Cedar. They took the baby out. First thing. And then they did the operation and put me on blood thinner. That's a big day for your body. This is scary. You're delivering a baby in that way.

Just delivering a baby for a woman. It's a big again. Trumbestimated. And I must say that I also was down playing giving birth. It's fine. I'm back. It's a huge trauma. It's a trauma. And this was number four. Now, my mother told me they got easier. Did yours not get easier? Obviously, this was compounded by this. Exactly. Yeah. Up until then, I loved giving birth. Okay. Loved. Like I hated being pregnant. Oh, yeah. Loved delivering. It was like, oh, because you felt powerful. Because first of all, meeting your baby for the first time is something I can't explain. It's like you want to see how they look, how they hear. Do you want to smell the creation of your own eyes? And they're looking in your eyes and you can tell they're going, like, are you who's going to take care of me? I'm going to take care of you. It's so special. Yeah. It is. Although I was terrified. Yeah. First time. I bet. Wow. So you had the surgery. Oh,

my God. You know, I had a repeated dream. When I was down. Did it ever happen to you? Uh-uh. Were you ever under? Like did they put you under for a surgery? I've been under a dozen times. Yeah. For real. He does have a lot of surgeries. What kind of surgeries are you okay? I raced motorcycles. So always broken stuff and life is something. You know, no, I don't race motorcycles. Yeah. You walk. I do. I walk. That's my motor. I froze my eggs. And so they did put me under for that. I did that twice. They don't always put people under, but they did put me. And that was nice. Those are nice little treat. You can see my mic jacks. I wanted to do that night. I think they called the nap. The anesthesia. I was dreaming that I was in a plane. And everybody in the plane were standing in like, you know, leaning over each other trying to see the view of where we're getting. And we were supposed to land on the Golden Bridge in San Francisco, the red one.

Golden Bridge is a song. The only thing right here was clear. Exactly. And there were cars on it. And every time we're about to land, boom, we went back to the start. We're over and over and over. And at one point in the dream, I'm like, I think we're going to start again. I think that's what's happening. Do you think maybe you asked this, but like, yeah, I've been out a bunch of times. Calling us to be these surgeries. I don't remember one thing. They hit the plunger. And then I'm like, waking up. Do you think it's because they were actively in your brain? I think so. I never asked my doctor. I should because that's very abnormal. I think for you to have any memory from while you're on their own. When they're tinkering around and they're remembered to this day vividly. Can I tell you a boring story you won't care about? So the Golden Gate Bridge. After the company that built that bridge erected it, they were like, that's a damn good bridge. Let's go try to sell this around the world. And you know, Lisbon bought one. Lisbon has a goal is identical to the Golden Gate Bridge. Same company. Yeah. They got down there like, hey, look at this bridge. We didn't San Francisco.

You want one? No, yeah, we'll take one. They call it good on the port. The Golden Bridge. They do? No. The Golden Bridge. The Golden Gate. The Golden Bridge. The Golden Bridge. Okay. So I'm going to maybe guess that for you, delivering was more tolerable because in your childhood, and mildly explained by the fact that mom was a Fizzat teacher, you swam, you played tennis, you did volleyball, you were on the cheerleading team for the soccer club, you did hip-hop dance, you did ballet. You are curious and with good memory. Thank you. I've been spared that procedure you had thus far. But obviously you've had an entire childhood of learning to endure pain. Once you learn to get through it, it is for me, I'm similar. That stuff doesn't bother me much. It's just not in my, yeah, I broke all my fingers and do all the things. Yeah. When you're very physical, you have more tolerance to pain and being pushed. Was all of this

motivated by yourself, all this physical activity, or was mother going, let's go? Both. I was born very active, still to this day. I can't just sit and do nothing. My buddy gets aggravated. And my mom, it was like, I finish school, I finish my homework, take a ball and go out and play. There's no hours and hours and hours of TV and stuff. And what kind of engineer was dad? Medicine, science, for example. He worked in this, how do you call it? It's like a pill that has multiple cameras that you swallow before you go to do colonoscopy. Wow. It films your whole digestive track on its way out. Yeah. Cool. So he's like a bioechanical or bio-mechanical. But he also worked in satellites. He's like in charge of all the brain. Stay tuned for more armchair expert. If you dare, we are supported by all state. Checking all state first could save you hundreds

on car insurance. Not checking whether someone is actually waving at you before waving back. You saw the wave, you went big. And then they walked right past you to greet the person behind you. Yeah. Checking first is an excellent plan. So check all state first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with all state potential savings. Very subject to terms conditions and availability all state North American insurance company and affiliates North Brook, Illinois. I have a bit of a stereotype for engineers. I had one as a stepdad. I have had two stepdads that were engineers. My dad is a engineer as well. Does he fit the stereotype? I mean was he pretty cerebral? You know what, Chad. Don't my dad. You are a computer. You're me. Here is Thorough and then he said in two words and then he said you're very specific and Thorough. My dad is very like de de de de de de de de de. Yeah, very cerebral. Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

So this other thing that's pretty well known about engineers too is like their bedside man is not great. It's like, no, no, that doesn't work here. I see that that doesn't work. They have no problem with that coupled with we had this incredible expert on years ago, probably six years ago that wrote a book about disagreeability across cultures. And you know the most disagreeable people on the planet are engineers. Israelis. Oh, Israel. This is not a negative thing. This is like, we'll challenge authority. No fear to object. It's all because of the Bible. Every Friday, every Shabbat, you used to get together and pepper over the story, the parasha of this week's Bible story and what you're encouraged to challenge it and debate it. It's like debating over the Shabbat table. Okay, great. So when I combine the highest disagreeable culture with all of my dad is like to interact with him. He's a softie. He's a girl's dad. Oh, he is. Well, you were texting him this morning about Chatt GBT. That's what I was like, Jack, what's your

mom? I was like, Oh my God. He knows me so well. I'm curious. That is like, I'm thorough. My dad, he was the breadwinner and worked morning to night and very loving. What happened when you became emotional? How did he handle that? Did he walk out of the room? Was he like, uh oh, emotion? No, I think that now when his older, he's embracing his emotions much more than ever, than my mom than anybody. This is all of us. He wants to talk about emotions. He wants to cry a little bit. Yeah. He wants to talk about his challenges. If he's feeling anything, that's great. It's incredible. Yeah. We were just talking about this with the guest yesterday. I think women and men are on this opposite trajectory. It's like when I met Chris and she cried every couple hours. I hadn't cried in 20 years and now she really ever cries and I cry every 20 minutes. Yeah. I was an interesting trajectory and I noticed that it is the horror bomb. It's pretty consistent among the people right now. Well, at some point the men, I think it's when you have children,

something pops open and then the pipe has been clogged. The damn is 400 years. I also think you're so busy with building your careers and building your homes and providing and this and that and all of the sudden I think there is a point where the children get older that you start feeling we're not here forever and actually we're asking ourselves what's the most important thing in life is and making you feel emotional. Yeah. And I think that if you're smart and wise and have good emotional intelligence, then you connect to your feelings at one point. Now you have the time. You're not in the race. Yeah, I'm like, oh, good. I did it. I climbed the mountain. Yeah. That's over. I did it. Yeah, exactly. I proved what I needed to prove to whoever it is. Oh, everything. Well, bring them all in. Bring them all in right now. Yeah. Okay. I have one bone to pick with you. Okay. So as the lore goes, you're in high school. You're doing all these incredible things

athletically. People had at different times suggested perhaps you should model, right? And you were not interested in that. And instead when you graduate in high school, you got to jump at Burger King. This sounds so American. You think about why someone's in Israel. Through high school, I worked in Burger King. Okay. Do they have the chicken sandwich there? I love the wapper, the garlic wapper. Garlic wapper. We don't have the garlic. We're too agreeable for garlic. We have the chicken sandwich. It comes in a rectangle. I don't know if they have that in Israel, but here with the proprietary Burger King mayonnaise. Okay. So you're working at Burger King. Now, here's my grievance because I have heard this same story from probably five guests. And at this point, I'm like, I'm a little suspicious of it. So it's that you didn't want anything to do with modeling, but mom and a friend submitted you to the Miss Israel pageant. It's true. I just think it's very interesting that of all these people I've interviewed that are all pageant winners. None of them submitted themselves. Who was it? Priyanka Chopra was one, I think.

So was Jenny Garth. I think she accidentally got herself on the podium at a pageant before you defend yourself. Would it be okay if you wanted to be an impaginate? Yeah. In Israel, in my days, it used to be a big deal. Now I think they canceled it. They have a bad track record for the abuse. Pageants in general, right? The man have made it terrible, but not in Israel. It just became out of. Pass A. Yeah. It's whatever. No one cares. But in my days, I was thinking to myself, all right, I'll go and I'll get to tell my grandchildren that grandma competed in Miss Israel. It was like royal. 2004. 2004. You're amazing. Twitter. And then you went to Miss Universe. I went to Miss Universe. You want to sit drawn for winning Miss Israel. I want to sit and see if I've seen. Yeah. A little carlofrench car. Oh, how fun is it to win a car when you're in the team? Amazing. And I sold it. You know what I did? I sold it. I drove it for three months and then I was like, I don't need a car. Yeah. Okay. I'll take my parents' cars. They had a car for me. And I'm going to play with the money a little bit and I sold it for 80,000

check-als. Nice. What is that in Peruvian? That's like 30. Yeah. It's that thing. But it was amazing. Yeah. Then I went to Miss Universe. Yeah. Which was an Ecuador. Ecuador. See. See. What was the experience like? I was so fearful. I'm going to win again because I never tried or wanted to win the Miss Israel pageant. And I was like, oh my god, I'm going to win this. No. But they wanted you to put on a cocktail dress that you weren't having that or something. No. And I was smoking everywhere. I'm not giving a care in the world. You weren't grateful enough to be there for them to give you the win. Who won that year? Was it what country won? You know? Australia, I think. Oh, good for that. She was amazing. I bet. You know what the thing is, you go to the Miss Universe pageant. You don't have a name anymore. I was Miss Israel. Oh, sure. It's kind of convenient in your meeting people. I was with Miss Norway in the room and we were

best friends with Miss this and that. Wow. Oh, tell me about Miss Norway because they too culturally have some fun stuff going on. Really? Was she wild? She was amazing. Okay. You're not going to be wild. No. She wasn't wild. No one was probably wild at Miss Universe. It goes like this. So the South Americans, they are the most experienced superpoys. They're there to win. They don't mention it. The European ones, they're very mellow. No drama. There's the Asian girls who were great too. There wasn't much drama. I was not making drama but I was the rebellion component competitor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Fantastic. Thank you. Okay. So you left that and then you pretty then immediately start your conscription, right? Your mandatory to your military services. That's right on the heels. I went there. I came back to Israel the fame of being Miss Israel was too much for me. So I went to do some modeling in Milano for three months then had to come back and do my service in the military. Really quick, how was

that three months in Milan? Wow. I thought it was so fun. It was amazing. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how my parents let me. I was 18 by myself in Milan. Were you living with other models? Like I was living with more models? Miss Mongolia. I'm not a brush. I'm a let of Ukraine. A lot of you know girls from every. Is that what the primary ethnicity was at that time in modeling in 04? It was me. Yes. There was a lot of you. There were from everywhere. But yes. Let me go back for one second. I want to ask why you are afraid to win. Because it felt the responsibility. Okay. You weren't like the exposure or the fame. I was like a girl. I was a dancer and athlete. I think this is part of the reason people want to distance themselves from it is it's fun to do them for a minute. But it probably didn't feel terribly substantive to you. What is absentee? Meaning in athletics, I set this goal. I have times. I reach for it. I work

very, very hard. It's objective. There's a timer. I take this test. I did this number. This is like a very subjective. Yeah. You know what? Great. All about how you look and it's different. Yeah. And you were probably desiring something a little more conclusive. Who were you? I guess that's the question. But I was enjoying it. Don't give me. Yeah. I was like enjoying both words. I was looking down at it. Yeah. But you know, is that it and enjoying it? And enjoying it. You can feel above it and participate in it. Yeah. But you're definitely not going to win if that's how you look at it. You have to respect it. Right. Taking you to the curve. You know I didn't. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So then you start your military service. So because of this great athletic background of yours, you become a trainer in the military. And then you learn Krav Maga. And I just some curious if you can tell me the history of Krav Maga. Is it pulling from other martial arts? And I remember is using your surroundings against your attacker. So if there's stones, if there's sand, they teach you where to hit first.

Pretty simple. Okay. If I know it correctly, the ethos of it is, it's all about real world combat. Not in a ring, not on a map, not at a contest. It's like, okay, when you're in the shit in real life, let's look around. What can we utilize? Exactly. Although we did it in a very contained space on mattresses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be fun if they had like foam training rocks and foam, yeah, drool sticks. Yeah. Like logs, foam tea kettle. Then this really interesting thing happens that if it doesn't happen, you and I never meet in our life, right? Your life is on a completely different trajectory, which is somehow you, well, not somehow, and I want the explanation. You end up in maximum while you're still in the military, right? Yeah. How did that come about? Maxim magazine for people don't remember who are not my age. It was a men's magazine with beautiful girls in it. Yeah. Israel decided to promote Israel through the beautiful women that go to the IDF. And therefore, let's put them on maximum magazine. And I was

one of the women and then I was invited to the gala. Oh, and I went with my husband back then was trying to think if we were married already. No. You met in06, right? In06. Yeah. Okay. That's amazing. You remember this about everyone you interview. Yeah. It's the goal. And then you forget. The goal, no, unfortunately, I remember quite a bit of it. Wow. That's really impressive. It's a very impressive. The goal to let you in on my game, I play, is the goals that never look at this piece of paper. Okay. So you were asking about maximum. I don't think that maximum was the thing that changed the trajectory. This maximum spread ended up on the cover of the New York post and this and that. And there was controversy within the country of whether the tours and boards. I do nothing. And I feel like controversy chases me wherever I fucking go. Yeah. Yeah. And if you have any tips on how to say, try different stuff. It always follows. So we come to the gala. We go to sleep. We wake up. I'm on the cover. And I know there's like this controversy

going on in Israel. Different ministers are starting to argue whether or not it's the right thing to do to promote Israel. Crazy stuff. All I did was being paid 500 bucks to do the photo shoot. And now I'm invited to this thing in New York. And I'm 21. I wake up and the ambassador is calling me New York and he's like, listen, there's been a thing go downstairs. It's when you still can buy the newspaper at the corner of each. Yeah. Go get the New York Post here on the cover on the New York Post. And CNN wants to interview you and folks news and NBC news. Oh my god. I'm like looking at my husband's Iran. And I'm like, what do I? And you know, what is like we ride the wave? The ambassador. Your name means your name means what? We ride the wave. So we go and I do all these interviews. My English is nowhere where it is now. Uh huh. Gal became fluent in English by watching Seinfeld and friends. You got a girl. That's why I connect with you. That's why I understand

so well. I was about to be 39. Amazing. Yeah. We're the same generation for once. Yes. Amazing. When's your birthday? Monday, August 24. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. Okay. We got it. Forties. Big one. I know it's coming up. So your English is rough. My English is rough. I do this thing. It's so bad to a point where Wolf Blitzer is interviewing me. And Iran was standing next to the camera. Men. And I'm like, Iran, how do you say this in English? And then my one is like, no, you don't look at me. Never ever did he ever go inside a place. So I don't ask him that life, right? Imagine someone's starting to speak a different language. You know, well, interview never. And that was how I started my public life. Yeah. Are they asking you specifically about the controversy? Or they just like, who are you? I remember I had two agendas. What agendas? Two like talking goals. One is I'm not going to get

into this silly argument. I'm just going to acknowledge everyone can have their own opinion. Yes. And that's it. And the other one was I invite everybody to come to Israel and LaDida because it's crazy what people think about Israel. They think we're like riding camels and everything is deserts and people walk around with M16, which is not the case whatsoever. We ride donkeys and we carry M4s. No, you're lorshie. You're like cowboys. You know, you heard catels and you do the things. But I was like, invite you all to come to Israel. It's great. It's so much fun. Like 20 year old girlwoods. Representing your country. Yeah, what do you do? Okay. You get out of the military after two years. And then this is also comedic. You go to college university and you're going to do medicine because primarily alley Mcbeal. Not medicine law. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Law. I didn't watch alley Mcbeal. Okay. You just found the crack in

my knowledge. If you watch Gray's Anatomy, it would have been exactly you were thinking. I'm so sorry. So you wanted to law because of alley Mcbeal. And at this point, I said to myself in the research, this bitch loves TV. I like you. Very, very easy to influence. Listen. First off, my whole idea back then was not really to be and I feel like it's something you say on interviews. Yeah. I love alley Mcbeal. But I think first of all, I wanted to be so many things. I wanted to be a chemist like in the pharmacy, which is weird to me. Why would I ever? Okay. I wanted to be a choreographer. That's okay. I just have 12 years of dance. Then after all, my dad is an engineer. My mom's a teacher. I needed to have a proper job. So I was like, okay, it's either medicine, which I'm not smart enough for or law, which I don't like to argue and I don't like conflicts. But I was thinking about, I don't even know how to say it in English. Like when you

do diplomacy and you know the law and all of these things, I was like, I'll go there. Never happened. So there is a casting director in London who somehow comes across your modeling card. Correct. And decides to have you auditioned for Quantum Solace, right? James Bond movie, which is a crazy thing to happen. Very random. And I didn't want to go. She went to the agency and she was looking for girls because she was looking for the bond girl. And she saw my card and she was probably thinking, oh, maybe she can be right for it. And she asked to see me for an audition, which I wasn't planning on going. And then my agent called me and I was in school. I was in university. And he called me and he said, where are you? She's waiting. You should go. I was like, I'm not going to go. I'm not an actress. And it's all in English and blah, blah, blah. Go. So I walk inside and I have a la mirror. Do you know the mirror? I love it. I love it. I love it. I'm so sorry. I'm later. And

she's like, oh, my God. My lips are so half too. Mind if I use it? I'm like, yeah, keep it. Keep it. That's generous for people who have never bought la mer is a very price. It's my lips. Her lips. We just met too much. I agree. It's a share in a toothbrush. Exactly. Just that. You can keep my lips. It's a crazy thing of her to ask. Well, because if it's the pot, which it's the pot, right? Yeah, it's your fingers all in it. But I almost feel that if it was the lipstick, it's more there's crazy. Yeah. That's like the nail. But anyway, I give her the very expensive lip balm. That might have been the reason. I think that my kindness led my way because she did not get that role. Right. No. But years later, say it, say it, Dex. This woman who was gifted a very expensive top of goal. Beautiful. Yeah. Perfect. Not trapped. Burged universal to meet Gale for

fast and furious. Crazy. To this day, I'm so grateful for this woman. Yeah. Unreal. And you put yourself on tape or you somehow you get an audition at a central Los Angeles. And then based on that, they like you enough that they say come to LA and have a, and this is in quotes, a personal meeting with Vin Diesel. No, a test like a camera test. Oh, it's a camera test. That sounds much better than one of the words I read. No, no. No, no, no. And we went to our hotel, sweet. Oh, no. I was hot. No. No. No. It's just a test. Okay. It was just a test. Okay. Great. Great. Great. Do you know how many finalists there were? How many people were tested? Bunch. What clicked? Why did that work? I don't know. I had good chemistry with them. Were you nervous? Did you want the job or you kind of like take or leave it? No. I wanted the job. I came here. I remember I had to go back to, I came for like a night's morning and then I left. Wow. Okay. I don't know. I was ready.

So I came very prepared. Yeah. So I did a good audition. And I had good chemistry with all of them with the director. Okay. So you end up in fast and furious. That was the fourth one was the first one you did. And so at that time, what are your thoughts about the future? Like you're in this enormous franchise. I have two parents who are like, you need to go back to school to get a job. You need to get a real job. This is temporary. This is a phase. And I had an incredible, I have an incredible husband who was like, this is the lighter side of life. Just let's enjoy it. It's okay. He was the dreamer and I'm, you know, that's what I think I picked up the tension in your life a little bit as I learned about you is like this reluctance to be in the pageant. And this perhaps reservation about doing this thing. And it feels like it's the tension of having parents that were professional. And perhaps your fear that they would think what you were doing was vapid and pointless. I think I need to lay down. I think there's something there. And I think it's also when

you start their career in such a young age. And it's not like medicine. You're not a doctor with a goal. And I never knew being an actress was an option. And it goes against my sign. I'm a tourist. I like stability and like to know what's going on. No, that's your tourist through the room. Tourists with a tourist horizon in the ox year. That's where it gets tricky. And I must say I'm not stubborn at all. I'm very open. I'm like tourists in other ways. But anyway, let's go back. You're flexible. But it was all new to me. It was going a lot against my personality because it's a lot of traveling, a lot of uncertainty. Nothing is up to me. Yeah. I'm not in control of anything. Yeah. Powerless. And it's hard. And I don't like it. Yeah. And sometimes I get rolls and you do all these auditions. And it's awful. I would say now there's this murky gap between that extraordinarily auspicious thing getting in fast and furious. And then Wonder Woman, tell me

about those years. I imagine it felt like there was security on the table and then the next month, you'd be like, no, that was it. No, but it's different phases. So I did fast four, five, and six. They killed me on seven. It was such a hilarious way when the director called me. But Justin Lin called me one day and he's like, listen, I'm going to send you the script. On this one, we're going to have to deal with your death. And I'm like, excuse me. She's deaf. It's like, no, no. Deaf, deaf. I'm like, yeah, I hear you. She lost her hearing. I can learn sign language. Die. Die. You're going to die. Oh, no. I was like, oh, there will be no fast eight for you. That. Did you take it personally? No, I was bummed. Yeah. I was a great fast and furious. It's crazy. It's like a community. The casts are huge. There's so many of us.

And within the years, 25 years, everybody loves each other and everybody knows each other. There's the good parts and the last good, but everybody loves each other. And I was sad not to be part of the community anymore after fast and furious when we came here. I did so many additions. We came for the premiere of the last fast before they killed me. Supposedly I'm back. I did the eighth. Oh, one. Yeah, I came on a cameo. Come on, fast and furious. They're acting. Yeah, exactly. So around there, I come and I do so many additions and I cold back and I match and I don't get it. And another one and I called back and I don't get it. And I had a two-year-old daughter by then and you're on head like a hotel and really stayed and stuff. And I told you on I don't think I can do it anymore. It's like fucking. It's too much rejection. Why? I'll go back to school or I'll be a sculpture. Then I wanted to be a sculpture. Sculptor. No, no, no. There's a product. I know. No, no, no, no. I thought about it. I thought

about it. Thank you. Thank you. That was why there's a long delight in the character immediately. You're immediately. I appreciate you so much. I want everyone to know you don't mean that you want to be a statue. I did already see that. I just want to help everyone. No, you corrected me. I just needed to be a statue. What happened to me this weekend? So I'm having friends over. Yeah, for brunch. And I'm cooking and we're talking. We talking. Then I go, yeah, well, you know, it's like it's water across the bridge. And then they go under. Yeah. But for years, I've been saying across the bridge, no one said anything. I speak to my friend Melissa here and I go, you know, but we need to think about the objective. And in the back door, I'm translating from Hebrew. Sure. In the back door. I just feel and then my husband who was on the call is like, God, you don't want to get your objective through back door. Maybe I don't want to shame anyone.

Yeah, no, it's fine. It's just not what you were translated from Hebrew. So thank you. I'm always feel free to correct me. I'm always learning. Oh, I only felt important in that moment. Because I know. I thought it was sweet. Maybe she didn't want to be a sculpture. Well, that's why we needed to correct. And that's also cool. I don't know. We need to know. Okay. So you want to be a sculptor, a sculptor. Yeah, sculptor. It's hard. It's a hard word. One day. On your deathbed, you'll say, what are my best friends is from Venezuela. And I'm around her all the time. So we do run into this often. And I'm always deciding like, what does she need to be correct on? What does she not just not just there is no conversation. Yeah, I get that. But that was a good thing. I always wanted to be a sculptor. To be a buyer, you know, honestly, I do want to be a sculptor. It would be great. It's going to be worthy of a sculptor.

And then I told you on, let's just step it. And then I did the addition for Wonder Woman. And just to remind people, so first was Batman V Superman. And Wonder Woman was going to make her first appearance. So at that moment, it's not like we're thinking, they want to take the water. Yeah. And you're not necessarily at that moment thinking I'm auditioning to be in a Wonder Woman only movie. You know, you didn't know what you were auditioning for. It was like a secret. They didn't tell you. They gave me a scene that only later I realized was an Uma Thorman scene from a whole fiction. Yeah. Oh, wow. But then finally, when they called me to the test with Ben, then the director called me and he said, I don't know if you have it in Israel. But did you ever hear about Wonder Woman? Yeah, like bitch, I watched all the TV. Exactly. Friends. She's done failed. Yes. We skipped one thing and I only want to plant a scene because I'm going to bring up later. But

you also, after the first fest, you did Night and Day Tom Cruise movie and you're in a scene with Tom Cruise. An incredible man. You tell me about the experience. I flew to Vienna to do the scene. I had, I think it was one night of work with him. And he was the most wonderful and they changed the scene completely. So you come, you learned all your lines. And now with my English, they completely scratched that. Oopsies. And somehow I figured it out. And we did the scene together. And it was an incredible experience. And we had a lot of waiting to do like you have when you shoot a movie. And he was talking to me a lot about my grandfather was a Holocaust survivor. And Tom did, um, Oh, Valkyrie. Was it Valkyrie? I was wanted to say that. But now I'm like, yeah, so Valkyrie. I think so. Yeah, you're right. And he was like so curious about my family and my

heritage. And years later, after I did Wonder Woman, we met in his house with another director, producer, no, real reminisce of the days. No, but another producer and director. And he opened the door. And he greeted me. And I didn't even think he would remember who I am. So just my stuff. And he's like, why are you talking about it? We did that. How's your grandfather? Is he still around? That's amazing. Yes. That's people really. Is he the one that does the cake? Yes. Did you get a cake? Have you gotten a cake from him? Okay, we shouldn't have brought that up. Never mind. Either way, either way, either way, but we be that but we make cakes. He sends the same cake to everyone. He's most of the people's work. Oh, I worked with him for one. I'm in fun. It's okay. I can tell him. Let's get gal the cake. No, no, no, it's fine. I don't like cakes. It's fine.

This one's fun. No, it's a fun thing. And Holly wanted it. It's like basically in your friendship circle, the goal is to know someone who gets to take them and go try it, which I got to do last year. So you don't get the cake? I've never worked with him. I've never even, well, I have met him. Look at him. I'm not supposed to get the cake. No, I don't deserve it. Did you get Vince? How do you call it? The house you built from cookies in a mirror? Gingerbread. Gingerbread house. Who gives a gingerbread house? Then. Oh, that's his. No, no, I've never worked with him. No. Do you get the gingerbread house? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The biggest one. I need a house for the house. We bring it in a mobile home trailer. We should start doing this. We should start sending out something and it's like special. Our guests will get it. Your shirts send like cool chairs. Obviously expensive. Yeah. Could you do some more? I think I could get the gingerbread is very expensive. I think Tom Cruise cake is pricey too. Oh, but that sounds great. And I think of us trying to compile the list and get addresses

and then I'm out. So wait a second. You didn't try the cake. It was a game night at Liz Banks house and someone at this party had worked with Tom Cruise enough that they got the cake. And they're smart. They know to bring it to the party because I don't want to try the Tom Cruise cake. What was it? It's coconut. It's always a coconut cake with like a vanilla spongy middle. I guess I've looked up pictures. It's beautiful. I've considered ordering it myself. It's a thing. I'm so out of the loop. It's so hard to immerse in the American culture fully. Well, you're a mother of so many children. Yeah. Yeah. You don't need to. How many kids do you have? Two girls? Two girls. Yeah. Four girls. Yeah. Yeah. How old? 11 and 13. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. I'll leave it at there because they don't like what you talk about. Okay. Yeah. You know, I tell everything that's spectacular about them. Good. That's what we should do. That's right. Oh, so you know, you know, I know. I know. I know. I know. I'll draw this 14 and a half. Yeah,

you know exactly how to go to high school now. I have like a teenage girl, a girl, a toddler, and like a little girl, a little girl and a toddler. Yeah. It's everywhere. So you got them all. It's amazing. It's exhausting and it's hard too. It's very hard. They didn't expect it. As soon as you figure them out, they change. Exactly. There's never like a status quo. And every time someone has a different need that you need to adjust everybody to. Yeah. But it's the most remote wording and an amazing thing. Stay tuned for more armchair expert. If you dare. Funny. My mom always tells me, oh, it's so hard. Like any challenge about life for my mom is like, wow, it's so hard. How do you do it? Like she relates too much that she feels more suffer than I ever will. Not just the kids, like anything. And I started telling her, Emma, I feel like life

is a struggle every day. It's not comfortable. Life is not convenient. Correct. It's always like, we need to overcome. But then is when you're happy. That's when you get happy or yeah, when you earn it. Okay. So through the Batman V Superman, you end up getting your own movie, Wonder Woman, the first one. And Monica, do you remember how much money this fucking movie made? I don't. 8.62. It opened at $103 million. The estimates were like 65. And this fucking thing was just a juggernaut. How after these years of frustration, did you integrate this new bit of information that was virtually opposite of your whole ride prior to that? How did you join these two experiences into something cohesive and how hard or easy was that? I think like in life, it builds up, right? You don't leave the jumps. I'm not still stuck in where I was and all the rejection now, I had to deal

with filming a movie. Be the little girl that needs to conquer this mountain and how do I do it? And it's the first time that I'm doing a movie that is my title and it's so physical and how do I do it? And being a mom and so there was a lot to do throughout the film. We were always pushing. Patty and I were always like, let's change the script and the studio wouldn't give you the extra money to film it. So you need to film the two versions of the scene all in one day to make sure. So you do all of that. Also, yeah, they had half the budget and normal movie of that kind would have we were like the underdogs. Yeah, again, going back to women, ex-act awareness and all of that. Let's go a movie for the girls and the power. Exactly. Hopefully it'll break even. Yeah, exactly. Let's see how it's good. Let's give them no resource. And Patty and I were like, this is going to be so special and we need this type of movie and we need this to and it's all about love, love, love. We were all from the first time Patty and I met. All we talk about was love and humanity

and how do we bring light to the world and it sounds a little bit like who the fuck do we think we are, right? But when you're given an opportunity to tell a story that is about something and you want to say something about something positive, why not? Yeah. So we were super invested and then the movie comes out. It was amazing, but I wasn't popping. Okay, to be fair, I was going through a postpartum. I had my second one and she was eight weeks old when we started promoting the movie and I had a major back injury. So I was miserable and then so when the movie opened, I was very happy and I felt satisfied with the success, but I wasn't. Happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was some kind of asymmetry between where I was personally in my own life, in my own body to what the outside world would think about me. Okay, so that kind of answers what I meant my next question, which is so often,

I think, for many of us who get lucky, it's weirdly hard to be present for it because the lucky event can potentially lead to lots of opportunity, lots of options, lots of shit in the future. It signals, oh wow, I might now have this future. And so the monkey brain can't resist thinking of now what's possible because of this one thing. You often kind of miss the thing. Did you experience that at all? For me, it's not even that necessarily. Well, first of all, the way my mental health works and it's nothing that I do to control it. I only realize what happened to me in retrospective. So when I'm there, it's too overwhelming, it's too much to grasp and to understand fully, it just right the wave. And I understand it clicks, but I'm not feeling it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only in retrospective when I can actually grasp it. Only in retrospective, I can grasp on these

type of things. I feel like when it happens, it's too overwhelming. It makes me sad though. But I think it's a protection mechanism that our mind has, because you can lose your mind. Some party doesn't trust it. It's very hard to compute what's happening. It's also not about me. It's not about you. Yes, it's my success. It's my face. It's my movie blah, blah, blah. But it's not me that they love. It's like this image, this character, a female being a matriarch, which no one gets to see. No little girls get to see or it's very rare. Yes, I agree with you. And when I say it, I'm talking about not just as the female, it's funny. I'm trying to find the right words to put it. But I think that if you really get it, if you really present in the moment of success because of the ego, it can bring you to places that can be very tricky. You're suggesting that it might be healthier to miss it. Not to miss it completely, but it's

like the best food for ego, right? Yes, yes, yes. And I think most people think the ego is the worst enemy a human can have. It can take you out. I think ego has gotten a bad rap, but I know you're saying. I know you're saying. I know you're saying. Yeah, this notion you should be egoless is ridiculous. You need your ego. You need to pursue your own and then you go too far and you learn, you dial it back, but it's a yin and yang and it's a balance. I see the ego like this like, yeah, give me your bottomless, insatiable. Exactly on a very superficial level. And it is. But there is a percentage of it that is like, that makes you a better person and makes you leave up to what the ego tells you. You are. And I might be able to do this thing currently. It doesn't seem like I could. That's your ego. And that's good. Someone stared at Everest and was like, yeah, no one's got to the top of that. I think I could. That's ego. Now, if he gets up, then he's like, oh my god, I'm not wearing trouble. Exactly. But the ego got you up there. But don't you think a lot of people, I meant a lot of successful people that when I talk to them

about the moment of success, the moment of breakthrough that they've had in their careers, I find that a lot of them were in the same area as I was. They didn't pop the champagne and like parties and we did it. They had some weird tension going on with it. I had it even more because of the postpartum and because of my back injury and some would say that it's all one. Yeah, it's all part of one thing. Well, yeah, I think it's hard when people are like, you're the greatest, you're the greatest, you're the greatest and you're you. You don't feel like the greatest. By the way, you're not and no one is like, you're the greatest. It's a problem. It's a huge problem. Yeah. So I think being wary of its wise. Yeah. You got to keep your own. You got to keep. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about the runner. Yes. Yes. So I had brought up Tom Cruise because nobody has ever ran in a motion picture as well as Tom Cruise. I'm so obsessed with his running. My children are two. We watch the mission impossible movies on repeat. We love them.

And I love that every one of those movies, they're going to build in a sequence where you're going to watch this man run. And sometimes you're going to watch this man run in a one solid wide shot for like two and a half minutes at a sprint. Yeah. It's a minute. How does this guy not rip his Achilles and his hammies and his everything? He did. He did. Okay. That's the answer. Yeah. He does. Okay. So the premise of the runner is you are a lawyer and you are also a runner and you have this little boy and the little boy's diabetic when we meet you, you're dropping him off at school and then you're going to go for your run. We can tell immediately this is your half hour of your day. Right. That is bliss. She starts the day. She goes for a run. What's the great song you start with? Hey, Blondie. Wasn't Blondie. Yeah. It's Blondie. It's so good that when I heard I was like, fuck, I got to drop back into some Blondie. Yeah. It's so good. So you start running. There's another dude in the car. Now it annoys me that I can't remember. Rob. Rob. Trying to find out about one way or another. One what? No. But bring a fire. No. Okay. We're

not going to go whatever. I think you're going to look at the movie credits. They're not there yet. Okay. Okay. You have a hard job. More constantly like how many feet are in a kilometer? Go. I get it now. I mean, that would be easy. We chat. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So yes, you've wrapped your kid off. You're going through your run through the park. You know, you're on a call with a client. We learned that you're a lawyer and then it's back to fun time and you see another dude who's running he's fast and already at this point in the movie, I'm like, how long is she going to run? Yeah. Y'all she's going to run the entire fucking movie. It's insane. So just in a nutshell, you get then another call. It's coming from your child's phone. You learn quickly that your son's been abducted by somebody. And now this person is giving the kind of I would say that things it parallels is on the bus speed. A lock. You're on a phone call. Someone has the leverage. I'm racing time to save my son's life. That's right. And you run through all of London. I'm pretty sure. All of London over six

miles of London. And are they like if you stop running, he's dead. I'm not allowed to stop running. I'm not allowed to talk to anybody. I'm not allowed to get on a cab or a tube or anything. I need to run and save my child. There is a legal case. She's involved. Yeah. We're not going to tell you the whole story. Yeah. When you start watching it, it's like not a second to take another breath. You're at the edge of your seat. And no particular order. What is the game plan? You go like, okay, you read the script. And I, okay, yeah, that's just really cool. And then do you even let yourself go like, but how are we on film this and what will that experience be like? Do you not let yourself even consider that because you like the movie? Okay. So I'll give you the time frame. So I read it after what happened to me with my fourth baby and almost dying. They did the whole thing. It took me many months to recover. So for months, for the first months, I was just in bed listening to podcasts, reading a little bit and just resting and walking with shades in the house

all the time because I had migraines all day long. And then I read the script and I think to myself really fucking good script. I couldn't put it down. It was so good. I read it. One go when it works, it works. And you know it. And I speak to my agents and I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this film now. And honestly, I don't even know if Tom Cruise can do this film. I think the running is not this one. Is it AI? Who's going to run it? 110 pages of running. And she's like, okay, just take the call with Kevin McDonnell, the director quickly ad. He directed one of my very favorite movies of all time. Last King of Scotland. Yeah, amazing talented, great, great director. I take the zoom with him and I say to myself, I'm not going to start talking about what happened to me in my head. I'm just going to be professional. Let's talk about it. And he's like, so I heard you just said, your baby, I'm like, yeah, it gets easier from one pregnancy to the next now, from one delivery to me. I was like, I'm not really on this one. He's like, what happened? And I'm like,

I had like a thing called CVT, but it's fine now. You had cerebral venous trombosis. He knew. Oh, he had it before I did. No way. We call that sim. No way. Six weeks before I did. Six weeks before. Oh my goodness. What number child was his? Who was he giving birth to? No, but I was like, there's a migrant stage. Yes, in it. Anyway, we connect on this level. We talk about the script. He tells me his vision. I love it, but I say, listen, I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not there. I'm just recovering. And he says, well, after talking to you now, I can't imagine anybody else doing this role. How long would you need? And I go nine months one year and we hang up. And then he calls me back, I think, within the hour. And he said, the studio is willing to push it for you. Would you be in? Are you in? Wow. And then I

said, yeah. And you know what else is crazy? All the neurologists that I went to see after what happened to me told me you need to break sweat at least half an hour a day. If there's one thing I hate is running. Hate. Oh, really? And I'm also spiritual a little bit. I was like, this is the universe. Yeah. Giving me exactly what I need. A director that will understand what I've been through. Breaking sweat. Yeah. No, no. Crossing you. What can be better than that? So a couple of months later, they brought me the most amazing trainers. And were they specifically like running coaches from Malachi was for running. And was that person like a collegiate coach or something for him? He trains the US Olympic. Oh, there we go. Incredible. And I worked with him every day for months. And was he a sprinting coach or a long distance coach sprinting, but I ran long distance. Yeah. So my question was I had a sprinting incident on my birthday this year. Are you a runner? Well, I'm born on January 2nd. My New Year's resolution was, okay, I got to do sprints twice.

That was your New Year's resolution. You got to do sprints twice a week. Yeah. Your life is in a really good place. All right. So, yeah, I'm down to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. What a privilege that that was my thing. Anyway, first run out. I happen to do with a bunch of people. We got a little competitive. My friend blew out a butt cheek. I fucked up my foot. And then I was like, okay, I gotta learn what the pre sprint warm up is. Yeah. He did stretch. Yeah. And dude, it's lengthy. He's like a swing this way. He's something. I mean, of course, it's hard on your body. Yeah. That's right. No, let me just do it hard. I know. It's hard. Like my husband say, don't try. I don't know how old are you? 51. My husband, he always say never pick up a new sports after 50. Yeah. I think that's fair and smart. Yeah. I mean, I had sprinted before. Anyways, was there an insane warm-up before you would do takes? Yeah. I'm an impatient person. So that part of the process will be very hard for me. Like, okay, I'm about to do the scene. I'm going to do 20 minutes of warm-up. No, not like that.

Okay. Okay. Okay. It would be in like seven minutes. Now I need to do some cycling. You're gonna buy it. Then I need to do some stretching. Then I need to do this. And then I go. But I finished the film on crutches. Oh, no. My next question was, did you get hurt? How many times did you get hurt? I got hurt multiple times throughout the film. The character had a watch. And I connected the watch to my phone. So I can see it. My steps and everything. I had weeks where I had like 150 something thousand steps. Yeah. Yeah. So it was non-stop. And there's no time to recover. You don't sleep well because you film all the time. You work in the cold in the heat, whatever. And when people watch this movie, they're like, wow, that was a really long sprint. I don't think I could sprint that long. You must remember that was one of eight takes before the fucking extras crossed at the right time. It was a whole thing. But I had like stress fractures in my feet. I bet. And I'm an ugly runner. No, I was just about to make the opposite statement. No, we know how to film it. Okay. I run beautifully until my knees, knees down. What happened?

Phoebe from friends. No, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. No, that's it. That's it. That's it. No, that's all in control. But knees down. I mean, there's not much to be down. You mean that you'll be surprised. Okay. I kind of want to see it. I kick them out and kick them out. Oh, I like. I think. Okay. Well, that did probably hurt your feet. Okay. So we want to do heel toe next time. No, heel toe. I did heel toe and everything. It's just the way. Did you have days where you, you know, you've got your six-am pickup or whatever. You have longer hair and makeups, probably five-am. Did you have any days where you woke up and you're like, oh, yeah, not a chance we can shoot that scene today. Never, ever, ever happened to me in my entire career. Even a miss movie. I trust the people that I work with. I know that everyone that are going to show up, we're going to show up. And I need to deliver. Okay. But if I have these type of moments, even then, I was about to say, I'm less and like super sick. But even then, I

get any Port-o-Zone shots and joints or feet during the filming. Were they having a work on you like a boxer? Yeah, they worked on me every day, every other day. Yeah. Yeah. I was insane. That's the athlete in you. You're gonna keep pushing. You're just gonna show up and do it. Yeah. Even on crutches, by the way, when I was on crutches, we filmed petri shots. I'm envious of you to have this movie in your life when you're older and your girls are growing up. And like just the physical fucking test you passed. But I knew it was a gift. It wasn't like, oh fuck, I'm gonna do it. It was like shit, I'm gonna learn how to run. Oh my god. But you did it. It's like it's an accomplishment in and of itself, which I hope is rewarding to you. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have something period. You'll walk away with something period, which is rare. Forever. That's right. Well, Gael, this was a delight. There was no idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would enjoy your first podcast. It was great. Okay, good. They're always remember. They're kind of like this. So just say yes to all the time. I promise they're all like it's a lot of fun.

They're kind of like you so much. Yeah, so thanks. So just the runner on Amazon Prime September. Second. Second, second, second. September, second, September, second, September, second. Okay, the runner, Amazon Prime September, second. Thank you so much for coming. This was fun. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Is it our care expert? Buddy makes a birthday. It's all the time. That God, my heart goes here. He's got a little half the facts. I want to start with revisiting my hemorrhaging. Okay. I've done a bit more of an autopsy on it. I want what I think actually happened. Because I think when we talked about it, I kind of blamed Honis, if you recall. Mm-hmm. That's what precluded it. Pre-looted it. And I know actually what happened. I'm so used to having the brondle, the sprayer. And here I had this Honis on the road. And I was doing a ton of wiping. And I'm out of practice wiping without the brondle.

Yeah. And I go too hard and too frequent. Because it just doesn't, because I'm so used to being on the clean clean. And I realized that's what caused it. So I'm back kind of on the toilet, spending more time again on Instagram and stuff. I've decided it was definitely more about the wiping. I think is what it was. Okay. Good luck to you. I believe it. You know, have one, right? I had one. Not a room for that. That's what I bet is what I'd. A brondle. Like you have a, you have a flushier, whatever that. Yeah, yeah. I have them now in every bathroom. Yeah. And it changes your life, right? It's, um, yeah, you're pampered. You are. You take way less abuse down there. Yeah. Yeah. You get the job done way less. Yeah. Well, report back on if you get another one. Okay. Next time you're on the road, it won't be.

It's going to be because he's on the toilet for a long time. It's going to spend a few minutes down there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some me time. I just read a comment in the day that said, I know you're reading on the, on the toilet get off. Uh, I wrote, I wrote on their bus did. Well, it's the man going to do it. I'm not looking at Instagram was someone to throw. Yeah. That's true. Speaking of things, people have said a lot of people asked if Jack McBrayor texted me on my birthday. He did not. I'm, I'm very sorry. So I just need to make that. Did you text Keckner? No, he texts me, but he didn't. We haven't, we actually haven't done that in a few years. You haven't seldom read in a birthday, but he's Stan as a man. No, but I wish, I wish him that. I share with Keckner. Yeah. He used to text me on my birthday because we're birthday buddies. It's a very sweet. Yeah. So I guess I didn't make the cut for Jack. And he can try again next year. Okay.

This is putting that out there. Formal heads up to him August 24. Big one next year. If ever there was a time to start sending the text, it's next. That's that's true. So you know my birthday, I went to a really good restaurant. Just about to ask how was your birthday dinner? It was incredible. It's called River. It's in Venice. Highly recommend. It was so good. And there were some arm cherries working. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. And so they brought over a special treat treat. What was it? An aperitivo. That's a cocktail. It's like an after dinner drink. Okay. An aperitif. Yeah. I think it's an aperitif. Yeah, not an aperitivo. Well, I thought the actual name of the drink was aperitivo, like a spin-off of aperitif. No, I was saying. Is it aparol in it or is it some kind of apricot? I don't think it has aparol in it. Or teeth. Apricot have different ones. There's like fernet, ding, ding, ding, when we had Bert Khrysheron,

we gave each other drinks to drink. Yes. And he wanted me to drink fernet. That's an after dinner drink and an aperitif. Okay. They're all interesting. They kind of have like a licorice. They taste kind of weird. I think they're meant to like... They coat a little... I think they're meant to like cleanse your palate. Graham Booie. Graham Booie. Graham Booie is an aperitif. Graham Booie. Yeah, people only drink it after their... Or Graham Arne. Graham Arne is something, but I don't know if that's aperitif. That's in like... Graham, you know, I carry Graham Booie when I have the bar. I don't have a clue what it is. What you've ever tasted it? You would never have it as a cocktail. Or I would have never. There's sponsor. I'll be happy to. ER, AM, B, UI, I think. Okay. It's a licor. A licor. Golden color. 3% ABV. Likor made from Scotch, whiskey, Heather, honey, herbs, and spices.

See, that's an aperitif. For sure. Yeah, definitely. That's a dissonant. No wonder I never... Yeah. Served in or tried. And that makes me think you're declaring this is my last drink of the night, which I would never have done. It might have been, though, it might be like Graham Arne where you like cook with it or something. I'm not seeing the word aperitif anywhere on this Wikipedia. Could you ask when it's normally drank? It's a brand... Wait. She's a brandy's an after-dinner drink for sure. But aperitif is not all... All after-dinner drinks are not aperitifs. But all aperitifs are after-dinner drinks. Are there different types of... Translate, after-danger-per-effed dinner? Probably. With your brandy. And aperitif translates directly into English as a pre-dinner alcoholic drink meant to stimulate appetite. Oh, that makes sense because aperitivo is pre-dinner. That means... Yeah. But there's it... No, sorry. So there's aperitifs and digestifs.

And those are for after. Okay, so which one is... So I think I had... It's... It's Nive? No, no. It's traditionally a digestif. Okay, traditionally a digestif. Yeah, generally. Look, I've been at a million meals where people order that after... Drambulli. Yeah. But I think my father even would bang a drambulli. I had a bottle and I don't remember ever serving once in seven years. Of course. That one. No one came to that bar to have the last drink of the night or... Yeah. I just... No one had eaten. I would have punched him in the face if they asked me for a digestif. Get out of here. That we have that as a test. It's also used in classic cocktails, Rusty Nail. Oh. That was my dad's drink. Yes, that was... Okay, so that's just a cocktail. That's how to dig a steep. Then a Bobby Burns... That sounds good. Yeah. Bobby's are fun. Yeah. Scotch, sweet, removed, Drambulli. I can't even say it. That sounds so stupid. Drambulli. Yeah. And bitters. Yeah, Drambulli's really bumping for you. I can tell. It sounds like something you...

A word you completely made up. It sounds like baby talk. Yeah, it does. What do you want? My Drambulli. Your butt... Your butt? Your what? Your dark bottle? Oh. Your dark blanket. Yeah. Well... Oh, somebody's a tremendous meal for you. What were the entrees? What did you... Oh my god, we had so much stuff because it's in Venice. Not notoriously very far away from my home. Time wise. Time wise. No, not at all far away. Not exactly that's true. Yeah. But so we are not going to go that off and plus it's very hard to get in. So I don't... So we had to kind of get everything we wanted. Eat the whole menu because it's one and done maybe. Yeah, so we got... We each got a hand roll, different ones. We each got... No, those were the each's. So we got this like kind of fried chicken thing. Oh. So good. I love fried chicken. Wagyu skewers. Yes. A rice...

Leftovers. Leftovers? I think there was a few leftovers that obviously just took home. There was a rice, like kind of a fried rice, but it had sweet corn and it was delicious. We got... Oh, we got a ramen. That was amazing. What else do we get? I'm missing like a big section, I think. A lot of vegetables and eggplant dish, a sweet potato dish, a... Something... You traditionally like eggplant. We do. I do have eggplant. You like eggplant. I love eggplant, parm. I mean... I think it's a big mush. Well, if you're just boiling it, yeah. But if you are creating a yummy eggplant dish, it's good. I think that sounds delicious. I can't remember less than my gosh. Surrounded by a skin you can't even chew. I like it in my Thai food. Yeah, exactly. Oh, wow. Yeah. If you're just cooking it, not...

Willy-Nelly. Like an eggplant steak. Like a eggplant steak. Yeah, if you're just boiling, it sounds like you're just boiling it. I've never prepared eggplant. I've just taken up my to make eggplant parmesan. Oh, I love eggplant. It's mush with this ring around it. That's hard to chew. Probably prefer chicken parm, but... Well, yeah. That's my issue when I've been to next with people that order the eggplant parm. They're not vegetarian. I'm like, they have chicken parm. It's not like they don't have it. I had it at Little Dom's on Sunday, I had eggplant parm. I think they're chicken parm. I get the shorter both and eat the eggplant on top of the chicken maybe. That would be amazing. Eggplant parm to me is almost more lasagna-ish than it is chicken parm. Okay. All right. Because it's often stacked if it's done correctly. Speaking of leftovers, so you had a girl's only birthday party on Sunday. It really wasn't a birthday party.

It was like a last minute. I was like, I want to play majong today. It's my birthday weekend. So I just kind of texted all the ladies I know. And I was like, does I even want to come over for this? And then you catered it with all time. In that, you got a bunch of take out for all time. Yeah. So then Kristen Braw, one of the dishes back to our house. That's good. And then I opened the fridge and I see, I was at an all time box and then I go and it's that fucking rice with that insane sauce and eggs. Aaron, it's so we have to figure out when we're going before you go out of town. And there was just a little half of it. Can we just go yet? Well, that's why we win. Oh, okay. So then I win. Yeah. And I'm like, oh my god, I wonder if there's more at Monica's house. So I text you, hey, is there any more? You didn't respond. So then I just went over there because I was like, rabbit now and just to just finish. It wasn't to be fair. We didn't get into it. It wasn't him. Okay. He's like barely eating. It's a little stressful for me. But it was a bunch.

It was a big party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And most of the food was gone. I mean, Kristen took an entire thing. So I assumed for you. Well, it was half gone when I dug into it. All right. But then that got me a little crazy for all time. So then Aaron and I went and we had never been. And we had the most romantic dinner on the sidewalk, candlelit. Yeah. And they do a steak for two for lovers, really. Yeah. We've discussed the steak for two because Callie and I would always get the steak for two. And we'd eat it all and everyone was surprised. Does it some big old steak? The steak is easy to take down with two people. It's the sides that are impossible. We did not accomplish eating all the sides. We probably left three pounds of potatoes. Yeah. And I mean, I know a lot of it. Yeah. The cauliflower, the peppers. We had ordered stupidly a side. I didn't even know that steak came with all that stuff. So I'd ordered the shrooms, the king temple or something. Shrooms. I would love to do a double date with you and Kelly.

Yeah. Two steaks. And between our tables is a puddle of oil. For those places. Does that happen when you get it, Monica? Because we were outdoors or didn't matter terribly much. But it was just gushing fat off the side of it over the table. And the whole sidewalk was standing where we were eating. Like I think they had the throat kitty litter on the back. Absolutely. I've never noticed that before. Like someone dumped their oil out of their engine. But it was still lousy. It's so good there. It's so good. Love it. I have a story. OK. I was with my friend Sally. We were driving. Two on our bar in Beverly Hills. And we look over. And do you know Coco? Coco is a robot. Oh, yeah. I think I'll go real. OK. I'll let you know. Coco is a robot that carries food. A delivery system. And it's like a box and pretty low to the ground on wheels

that travels across the city and drops up food. It's the cutest thing I know. It has a little smiley face on the front. And like, I do think normally they have a flag. So it's like you can see. They started with flags when they came out seven years ago. The flags are gone. They've all been ripped off and broken. Yeah. Because so we're at the stoplight. Yep. That's Coco. Oh, that one has a flag. They get themselves into a lot of trouble. They're rascally. I see them sometimes. I can't tell if they're playing or they're really stuck. They'll be going in a circle or on a train. I'm like, is it playing? It's uncomfortable. And also just said that if it's at a stoplight, it asks people to press the button for it. Oh, really? I've never experienced that. I would love to help. I would carry it. I don't know. You might have seen that on TikTok. But anyway, so we look over. And there's a car accident.

A car hit Coco. Oh, no. And Coco was under like kind of under. Oh. And then they were trying to put, they were so confused, obviously. And they're like trying to pull over. But it's like stuck under by the way, lots of damage to the car. Oh, sure. So then Sally and I are screaming. Like we're like, we've seen a kid get a kid. Yeah. I never see a kid get a kid. Oh, no. A dog, a kid, a grandmother. No. Sally had the right eye. I was like, Coco, Coco! She was screaming and she was like, that's bad. That's really bad. But she was saying because the car, like she was like, oh my God, that car is like serious. She cared about the car. No, this is where I'm going. No, women. Where I actually then after was like, oh my, I can't believe I felt like real feelings about that. Sure. Against Mercedes. Yeah. Ken of my car.

Sure, sure, cousin. Yes. And it's like a kind of older couple and they're so confused. And like the lady like opens the bar to see. And I imagine being that lady and you hit like you're in the car. Something's clearly horrible. You've hit something. Yeah, you're dragging that. Yeah. And then you open it and you see it's Coco. And so first, you're like relieved. Because I'm sure you're like, I hit an animal or I'm supposed to. Someone on a bike. Yes. So first you're relieved and then you're so pissed. I mean, imagine how pissed you'd be if you hit a robot that was crossing the street and it damaged your car. And now you have to call what 911 and be like, you're getting an accident. The police come. Coco's there. Coco seems actually okay. Really? Yeah, they're sturdy. Wow. I know. Then I thought about the people not receiving their pizza. Yeah, the glass of wine that was inside. Yeah, it was probably very good.

You can order a glass of beer and go and just bouncing through the side of my time. Be careful. Yeah. So it was traumatic. And then yesterday I was walking by, um, in Venice, there was like a bunch of Coco's and they were all like in a line and we said it was for the service. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Of course. Now, I'm inclined to think that Coco was probably following the rules. I don't think they can break rules. So this woman probably didn't look in the crosswalk. It was a man driving to be fair, but yes. Oh, I thought why not? No, because the woman was in the passenger seat. There we go. Opened it to see and was like, what the fuck? Yeah. So they were probably chatting and they missed that Coco was in the crosswalk. I know, but I don't think I really think it's very hard to see when you don't have the flag. So yes, obviously they turned on. The code doesn't just drive out into traffic or go on red lights on the crosswalk. Yeah, I think it was crossing and they turned probably in front of Coco.

Was it a SUV or a car? Monster truck. Yeah, I'm wondering like tall. Yeah, if you're in a big SUV, it was a G-Wayne. It was a Mercedes. It wasn't. I think it was a sedan. It was like my car. I believe in the human. I do too. But Aaron, if you now have to pay for damage to your car, like that is life-ruining. If a robot pulls in front of you and is just dragging the car, just getting crumpled. Yeah. Who owns Coco? Exactly. And then I thought this, I was like, okay, now who's who's fault is it and who should pay for what? And now this human has to pay. That's what's tricky is like we can say almost for sure it was the people driving's fault because they can't. They don't jump out into traffic. But Coco can't give a statement. Oh, I bet Coco has onboard video. They probably do. Yeah, so I bet when they call Coco's parents and say you owe me so much money, Coco's parents,

they're going to go, well, let us review the tape and they're going to go. Coco had the crosswalk was inviting Coco to go into it. It's your obligation to see if anything's in the crosswalk before you turn right on red. And they're going to say, go fuck yourself. They're going to say we couldn't see her. And then they're going to have to call their insurance company and their insurance company. Somebody's going to pay for it. And then they're premium. This is horrible. No, I hate to think Coco getting reprimanded for this. No, if you're going to walk out and even if you're walking out, you still have to be careful. Coco is extremely careful. This is why sometimes you see them stuck at a tree. No, they're not careful. They're just like, they have learning disabilities. Just to tell people, Coco goes so fast sometimes. Have you ever seen Coco haul out? Yeah. Oh, it's so funny. Have you seen anything? Yeah. Because they're so scared all the time. They go so slow most of the time. But when they get some wide open sidewalk, they fucking, they punch it. Yeah. That's why I think they're a little rascal. They go slowing there around people and stuff.

They have sensors, obviously, whatever. I just, I couldn't believe my reaction. I could not believe that's the right reaction. No, I don't know. I'm trying not to, we shouldn't have too many feelings around these robots. It's getting people. Some girl died. Well, that's good one. She died talking to her chat. Oh, what? Yes, she did. She did. She had mental health issues. Yeah. And she was struggling. And she was talking to chat and something or an AI. Just talking to an AI. And I didn't finish reading it. Yeah. Okay. But basically, I don't think we need to have two. I think we need to, this is how I feel about animals. Okay. It's the same thing where I'm like, we still have to prioritize humans above. Hard. And I'm going to say humans animals. I'm going to give you guys this. Humans animals robots in that order. But there are some exceptions. Like you have to, okay, a silverback of which there are very limited number versus one

of the eight and a half billion people on the planet. No. There's a button I have to hit. That's a tough call. Doesn't matter what person it is. I won't know who it is. This is like that interesting. There was a great, what was the old spooky show from the 60s and 70s? Twilight zone. There's a Twilight zone with this guy. Someone comes to his house basically says, for X amount of money, you hit this button. Somebody on the planet who you've never met will die. And then through the course of the episode, he agrees to get money, a ton of money. He hits the button and then he says to the person, what happens now? And they go, we take it to someone on the planet that you've never met or whatever. Basically what you realize is someone your next to ever hits the button now kills you. Pretty good twist. I hit it. It's similar to that. Pressing that button. I would never press that button. Over is silverback. Yeah, I'm for humans.

I might be willing, if I didn't have children, I might sacrifice myself for a total. Okay, you can sacrifice yourself all you want, but killing for cocoa. No. What if I dove out of the like I dove and push cocoa out of the way right before he got hit and I got hit by a car. Saving cocoa's like, you're on my ship. To give you a police military send up. Yeah, I hope the city would have like a big presentation for me. I miss it. I mean, I'm sorry that happened to her. I wonder what happened to those. It's funny. So you think it's a her, right? Yeah, that one was. They're different. Okay, because I most often think it's a little boy. Oh, I think of it as a her. You do. Yeah, interesting. Yeah. They have names. They do? Yeah, their names are printed on the side so you can. They're so funny. It's just funny. What's that? It's trying to, oh, it's so bad. I hate cocoa, but I love her.

Stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare. What's the difference? You're fine with me loving group, right? But Monica, is there a huge difference between like, here's why I love group. I look at him and he's always in a good, he's in the best mood. I know. And I know he has challenges. He has a lot of challenges with the respiratory system. I know. Yeah. And I look at him. I'm like, come in. Despite all things, he's always got the sweetest smile on his face and I love him a lot. I know, but that's different. If there was a gorilla or a group, watch out. I don't know what to do. So it goes group. Gorilla humans. Oh, group though is connected to Delta.

That's the real reason. If you just saw a group on the street, you'd be like, oh my god, look at that cute stuffy. Right. Is my grandson? It's my grandson. It's her child. Yeah. So that's obviously so cute like a cocoa is. I know. But let's say, okay, let's say you're driving and you're turning right on red. No one's there, right? And all of a sudden you squish over something and then you look and there's a group on the ground that someone threw someone threw a group, not Delta's group. I think any group, you know, that's what they say when you have a kid, all children, you know, clearly not because you're willing to kill a human and I know. No, an adult is someone's kid. Not anymore. There's a hole in your children are. Whether your children are old, they don't qualify. If I'm dead, yeah. No, none of this is helpful. Okay. So someone throws a stuffy. It gets caught and somehow that stuffy has metal in it too and it's like ruining the

car, right? No, that sucks for the people driving. Even though he's cute. But someone threw it. So now a man at whoever chucked, whoever treated through that way. No, okay. Groot has a neck in his cup. They got real problem on their hands now. Exactly. Okay. I think if this happened to you, you would be very upset that your car was hurt. I hope they televised this court case. I agree. Your mom will be all over. She will be. She really will be. It was wild to see. It was wild. When you were telling the story of seeing the car, maybe think of yesterday, Aaron, I were recording mom's car and we're driving around. And again, there's so much going on when we do mom's car. We're delivering food. In this case, we have three different orders. We have two guests in the back seat. That's a lot. I'm driving. There's cameras everywhere. This is the first episode. Yeah, first episode. We have things we got to say now. And I spot a guy who's opening his door of his truck while he's driving.

And forget, do you know how long we were with that guy? Like, had you clocked it as he was? Yeah. We were with that guy. I didn't hear anything. Anyone's that for like eight minutes. All I was like, once he can open his door again, we were behind this truck. And the guy was opening his door all the time while he was driving. And I'm like, what's going on? Is he going to barrel all up the side? Finally, I said something. I'm like, gang, we got a guy with open his door and everything. Then we pulled up next to him at the traffic light. And then it felt a little bad. It seems our theory, our current theory was his air conditioning wasn't working and his power windows were broken. And it was so brutally hot yesterday. So he had to be fanning the door while he drove. Yeah. And he had what seemed to be his wife or girlfriend. Look at your girlfriend. Yeah. Girlfriend, I believe. I'm better synchronized. I know. We felt really bad. It's also my mom's birthday. I'm positive note. Happy birthday, Laura. Happy birthday. So many birthdays. Yeah, it's heavy. It's a heavy, heavy week. I was just saying it this morning. I know. Kind of sucks. We got it. Carly.

You say your birthday. But I think my birthday is bad because everyone has it. And then like, it's not like. You're like saying happy birthday to everyone. I got Carly, Grammy, Ulysses, Reston, Peace, then you, then my mom, then Jess, then there's like eight birthdays that I know of in the 10-day stretch. It's impacted. The only other one is that's as impacted as I'd say, Aaron's birthday. I'm about five people in that window of July 1st to July 8th. It's like Ryan Hansen. Ryan Hansen. I'm three years on a, um, forgetting some, but there's a lot. Aaron Tyrell's son of shares of J2C. Oh, lucky. He actually, um, I saw him recently. I came over my house. He took care of the dogs for a couple days. And he said, uh, it was right before the birthday. And I was like, happy birthday.

Uh, he goes, you think it would be cool if I got a tattoo? What, I was the 15 or 14 16 16. What are you saying? No tattoos are not technically. There's only two people in this club. No, you do what you want. That's huge. That's huge. Um, okay. I have a question. I'll ask both of you. And then we need to fix how often are you changing out your towel after a shout? You know, you shower, you use your towel. How often are you then putting that in the laundry and getting a new one? Well, once a week, um, that doesn't happen because of me. Okay. That's fair. Um, once a week, Ruthie does a whole gathering of floor. I know the whole thing. Yes. If we were just you. Just me. It, I'm always, I always think it's still good. I mean, because you're clean.

Yeah. But it's water. It's like you got that mold and mildew. If you hang it in a place that dries quickly, I, I would definitely go five showers on a towel. Okay. Not a week. And then the bad news is, you know, we were just talking about this. What? I don't shower a ton for people who don't use that. I saw it and then I cold plunging and then I get in the hot tub and I'm like, what are we doing? I'm going to go get more water on me. You know, and then I don't smell and I only wash my hair once a week because it's, I have such dry hair. Yeah. So because I would only wash it once every probably five or six showers, that might be six months worth. I think it's months. Now I'm thinking I think mine is changed twice a week. Now they think of it. Okay. Nice. And my showers are a little more frequent than that. I know. But I don't know. Yeah, but they're like probably every other day.

Sometimes it's every day when I'm. You guys are showering every day. No. And you know what's funny? I was thinking about it this morning, weirdly enough. I don't mind when I'm in the shower, but the thought of the shower, I hate. So I'm like, fuck, I have so much to do. I don't want to go get wet and then put on new deodorant and then put my moisturizer on. Yeah, everyone feels this way. Everyone, it's a time suck. But do you think everyone feels that way? I know a lot of people that love taking showers and baths. And do it multiple times. Well, yeah, a couple times a day. Like those people clearly love shower. No, I often shower twice a day and I do not like it. It is a huge pain. You're rushing. You have to get it because you go to work and it's a heat. It's a mess. You do it for the, you're not doing it for the enjoyment of the shower. The bath is different. I like about, I did two baths this weekend. There you go. At night. Yeah. As a post, as a relaxation, you put the bubbles and you put the powders in. Oh, candles.

And I candle, I do a candle and I, and the lights are dim and you listen to music. Saxophone music. Yeah, I love it. But that's not for cleanliness. I shower after that. Okay. I don't think I'm clean. I think I'm even more dirty because I'm in my stew and sweaty. We can just back up for half a second and start with the fact that humans didn't shower for 300,000 years. And then we didn't even have indoor plumbing until the 1900s. So we're talking, we're looking at that people have been showing for like 120 years. So there's no scene that we have to shower every day is comical. We don't have to brush our teeth either. Well, but we've added something that makes that necessary, which is we didn't have refined sugars. So now we have to brush our teeth or our teeth will fall out of the mouth. Well, the people's in back in the George Washington age. They were getting dirtier. They had, they lived in a dirtier world than us by far. What? I'm saying they didn't brush their teeth and it was disgusting. Yeah. I'm all about brushing your teeth. I'm just saying the reason we have to brush our teeth is because we now eat sugar.

We were designed to not have to brush our teeth and we didn't brush our teeth for 300,000 years. We need a ton of sugar. So now we have to. But nothing has changed in our life that would require us to all of a sudden have need showers every single day. Our environment's only gotten cleaner and cleaner and cleaner. We don't interact with dirt. We walk on cement to a indoor house with the carpets that you wipe your feet on. We wear shoes and clothes. So it's like we've gotten in an increasingly cleaner world and we've showered more and more and more. So I'm just pointing out that for anyone who's like, oh, gross, fine. But also this is insane that we do what we do. It's so necessary. I never smell you. I never smell you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. If I smell even a hint of smell, I'm bolting right to the shower. You know, I don't want to fuck with that. And again, I've told this to if I didn't have a bidet, I would shower a lot. Well, that's yeah, that's what I feel like. I clean my butthole with water every day. So I don't, again, my butthole is really clean and then I'm worried about adding soap. You don't want to add soap to that mix.

You know, then we'll get into the whole thing about soap. No, I don't think I need to add soap to the mix to get my butthole clean. Yeah. Well, great. Yeah. Finger. Well, sure. Yeah. That's what Mother Nature intended. Right. It used to be in the old days, your bath was you jumped in a lake and then you rubbed your butthole with your finger on your water and you rubbed your balls and your penis and that was your fucking. That's why you kept yourself clean. I'm glad I didn't live then. Oh, yeah. Me too. I prefer to live now. All right. Some facts for gal. Gal Gadot. Gal Gadot. Gal Gadot. She said Gadot. I think it's Gadot. And I've been saying Gadot this whole time. Okay. How tall is Emma? You said, we said 5'10." You're like, I think she might be 6 feet. She's 6 feet. One and a half inches. She's almost 6'2." She was wearing heels and she was, we were looking at eye. She is a tall one. Tall gal. Tall gal. We're looking at inviting gnddddneymmmm.

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birthday. My mood and sun and rising. And they created a one-of-one cake. Mermaid. And it was so good. And it looked like a mermaid cake. And it had a lot going on. And at first I truthfully was like this is probably not going to taste very good. There's so much going on. Yeah. Vanilla rose chiffon, a Yuzu curd, fresh cream, exactly. I was looking just deep and aperteep. Yeah. But it was so good. It was so good. Shockingly so. And moist. And I'm back to saying that. I'm done putting that on the shelf. Okay. Yeah. And I highly recommend chariot LA. If you want a yummy cake and if you especially if you have someone who likes astrology. You don't get a moist cake too often. You don't. It's hard to find. They dry up on you. Yeah. They really do. If you want moisture go with eggplant, it's a mush. It's a wet, wet mush. There's too much covered in a skin.

Yeah. Okay. Is the goal. I mean, what is the Golden Gate Bridge in Lisbon called? It's called the 25 day a real bridge, which is April the 25th bridge. I just did that. Really nice. Thank you. April tees. I took a lot. I took a lot of Spanish. Although this is probably Portuguese. But striking red suspension bridge across the Tegas River. Tagus. There it is. There she is. Oh, hello. Okay. This does America have a garlic wapper? No. Nope. While countries like South Korea and international regions have featured dedicated garlic infused wappers and Israel, obviously according to Gal. The US menu has only seen garlic flavors appear as temporary or regional items, such as a limited time garlic aoli pairing or recent themed items like. Grow goo's garlic chicken fries rather than a standard garlic wapper. We can't get that here. Sadly, but it's okay because we get the chicken sandwich instead.

We would get that anyway. Yeah. Okay. What is 80,000 shuckles in US dollars? 26,000 dollars? $853. Okay. 26,850. Who won Miss Universe the Year Gal was in it, which was 2004. She was right. Miss Australia. Jennifer Hawkins. Yeah. How expensive is Lamar lip balm $85? Yeah. But best $85 she ever spent. It really bought her a whole career. Yes. Now tens of millions of dollars. She was on the Forbes list several times. We love that. Number three. Most highest paid actor. Now this movie, the runner, which isn't out yet, which is why Rob couldn't find the song, the blondie song, because we gave you type it in, like that doesn't come up. But I wonder if I say it, will you know it? Or no? You'd probably have to do. I'd have to, you won't sing it. So I would have to. Right. Because I don't know him.

Okay. Let's say the name. Dreaming. Yes. See, I don't think I'm going to know the title. Oh, you're a nosy. Is that the song? That's not the one. Oh, call me. Do you want to sing? Call me. Call me. Those are the only two. I'll just quickly tell you the song. Probably a deep cut. No, it's not at all. It's one of the biggest songs, but other popular one way or another. Rap, sure. I bet it's rap, sure. That's how it's right. Oh, maybe hard of. Oh, no, this is hard to go. Is it hard to go? Is it hard to go? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, this is popular. Yeah. What a great song. Oh, yeah. Great song. Oh, yeah. 1978 and it still holds up.

I'm going to hold up. She's 80. I think she's still sexy. Yeah. And still performing. Yeah. Who is it? Debbie Harry? Oh, not following a sleep on today. I didn't name the person, but I did tell our guests today that you had recently gone to a concert with a legend in that they were asleep, but considerable amount of the performance in that you thought maybe they passed. Who was it? Is the scariest concert I've ever been to? Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. I think he's 93. Oh, wow. Well, then that time, so everyone was saying around me. I didn't look it up, but I just looked. Seemed that most people knew that the answer to that was Debbie Harry's original name is Angela Trimble. What the hell? Yeah. Why don't I get any of the music now? Debbie Harry is a better name for blondie.

Okay. Well, that sounds like that's all the facts. Yeah. Got him. Well, I looked up Krav Magaba. She did a good job explaining it. Okay. So we don't need to do that. All right. Well, well, well. Happy birthday, Laura. I love you guys. I love you. Bye. Bye.

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