Gate Of The Gods w/ Tyler Gilreath

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1:09What is going on on my local guys and gals and long distance paths? We are back. Back to the war. No, I'm just super excited. I'm disappointed we don't have Ben with us again tonight, but he has been working that second job. He's working like a dog. But I'm super excited tonight. This is my kind of content. I love the way it's presented. I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves. I'm a huge fan of this author right away straight in. I have to go back now and read the first book. But Justin, before I get too far in, I'll let you go ahead and I'll let you pray for us. This is usually an hour show. We're going to go for at least four. How are your scenes and stuff?

2:12I'm just teasing. Hey, we follow the thank you for today. Thank you for all your many blessings that you've given us. Thank you for this time that we get to have and dive into your words and draw closer to you and try to get discernment and understanding over your word and the things of this world. Father, we just thank you for that time and for the fellowship. Thank you for this guest that we have is brother and Christ and friendship that we have made together. He's another Tennessee boy. So we're thankful for him and for him taking out time out of his busy schedule to sit down and talk with us and share some of his nuggets of gold that he's found on his journey. Father, we just we thank you for everything father and in your son's name, we pray. Amen. Well, like I said, I'm super excited. A little jealous that Justin got a little jump on me on this one because this is the first time I actually get to meet you in person.

3:14But today we have the author of gospel over gods and the one that I just got done with the gate of the gods. We have Tyler Gilruth with us today and we are ecstatic and thank you for coming on, buddy. Guys, I appreciate the invitation. You know, I really enjoyed our talk last time, Justin and you said, you know, you got to come back and do some some deeper content. So, you know, I've been looking my chops to get back on here with you guys and and dive in deep. Well, I was telling you pre-roll, man, it's just the response from that episode was amazing. But it's not even two months old yet. It's already I think number eight on the most downloaded. So it had a really amazing response here by loved it. I'm glad to hear that and Steve was good to meet you for the first time in. Well, I'm excited, like I said, and I've listened to a couple of the shows you've been on. I kind of wanted to hear what you went over and I love the content.

4:15I don't want to take away, but I don't want to keep hitting the same stuff that you hit a lot. Like Justin said, you know, he's got a lot of followers that listen to his show and listen to this show. And I don't want it to be too much of a double dip. So I want you to go into some deep dives on a couple of things. And you know, well, what kind of as we as we always say, let the Holy Spirit guide where this goes. But we like to kind of give you the floor and we dig in and we want to get deep. We want to we want to go into some stuff that maybe you haven't talked about before. Yeah, looking forward to it, man, any direction you all want to go with it will will roll and go as long as you want. Be careful what you would. Well, I just first of all, like I said, I haven't read your first book, but this book, I have a copy of it right here. I like everybody to see if you can see that gate of the gods, Tyler Gilruth, I highly recommend it for a couple of reasons.

5:19I'm just going to give a slight overview just and I'm not diving in. I'm not digging in too much yet. But the way that I appreciate the way that you approach things, you don't close off the non canonical side of things. Use books like Enoch, you use books like Jubilee's, you dive into those because they lend credence to the scriptural side of things. And then you will put the scriptures, whether it's whether it's one of those non canonical or one of the other just old test them to new test. Now you put it side by side to show where those references are coming from. And I think that's super important. But I think as a gross overview before we dive in too far, I think it's really important. You actually said specifically that many Christians are unaware of the dependence the new testament has on the old testament. And I think that that's kind of a good jump and off point. And then we're going to see where these rabbit trails go as long as Justin doesn't shoot shoot them rabbits as we're going to see that.

6:19I've been rabbit hunting my time. So I used to have some beagles. We would go rabbit hunting. But yeah, we'll try not to chase too many rabbits unless you want to listen to beagles will chase them rabbits whether you're hunting or not. So I know they really will. But yeah, it's you're right. I mean that what you brought out, I say early on in the book. It's so true, man. I mean, I've I've been in ministry for, you know, over 15 years and you know, people love. We love our bibles. We love to hold our bibles. We like to, you know, to maybe quote our favorite verses, right? But what I found is that, you know, and I had to check myself. Okay. I'm not I'm not just looking at, you know, other people. Years ago, I think I would probably fall in that camp before I got really serious about digging deep in the bottle. I knew I knew the scriptures pretty well. I mean, you know, I thought I'd knew I'm pretty well. I mean, I knew the topics right. I knew the the pet versus right.

7:29But I didn't realize, again, years ago, I didn't realize the dependency, the connectivity of all scripture. You know, and I think that is one of the biggest. Proof that this book is God driven. Okay. The fact that it all ties together and I've had my head in a lot of ancient material. I highlight a lot of it in my writings. And I gotta tell you guys, it is nowhere close to the quality of the Bible and even ancient Jewish writing. It's just not as close, man. It's not even compare. Doesn't compare. But we're talking about the book of Revelation. People avoid it. Okay. Preachers avoid it. Pastors avoid it. Bible school teachers avoided it. Avoid it. I avoided it for a long time in my ministry.

8:34Until I really got serious about studying the supernatural world of Bible, I went on to write my first book, Gospel over Guides, which is a chronological study of the supernatural world of Bible. I felt like after that that I was in a good place to study the most supernatural book in the Bible, which is the book of Revelation. And I was blown away, absolutely blown away by John's usage of really the entire Old Testament. I mean across the board. Like what, what a masterpiece it is. What a masterpiece. And it's a great way to conclude things. You know, it's like a teacher before a test is going to go back and review all the material that came before it. Right. In that way, you can be ready for the test. That's kind of the way John looks at Revelation. It's like we're going to wrap things up here in the apocalypse, the vision I have. And we're going to go back and recap class over all the material that has come before the apocalyptic vision of John in the book of Revelation.

9:46And so he does. He takes verses out of the prophets, verses out of Genesis, you know, verses out of the Psalms. And he throws them into a blender and what comes out is this amazing book called the book of Revelation. And until I understood that, I was in really no position to really digest, you know, the nutrients that are in the world. And the nutrients that we find inside the book of Revelation. Yeah. But I find fascinating. It's the only book that outright tells you you will receive a blessing from reading it. And like you said, it's the number one that we avoid. Yeah. Yeah. I can tell you as blessed my life. You know, it's hard to imagine going back to avoiding the book of Revelation at this point. I can't even fathom. Was that the same? Did I used to do that?

10:47Now I embrace it. Now I run to it. I love it. Because it is really a canvas. And when you when you start looking at all the individual strokes, the pinstrokes on the canvas, you can see the master piece that it really is. Right. Instead of just zooming way out and saying, yeah, I see a picture there. I can see that. But when you zoom in and you start looking at the individual threads of connectivity that goes back. Man, it's high definition. That's so cool. I just think the way and the funny thing was I didn't get the connection immediately until you spelled it out because gate of the gods, you know, you brought that out before we started recording. It's the the meaning the meaning of Babylon. Right. Which is such a cool thing. So to kind of jump us down the first rabbit hole here because you know, and it's a big one to start with. But I know it'll narrow it's way down as we go.

11:56But we look at the way that all these, you know, these different cultures, you take and you'll take the like the Babylonian creation story. And you'll see you'll line that up with the Genesis creation story. Yeah. And you show the similarities. And granted, we're talking about a different deity that they talk about Marduck, right. And we're talking about the different deity as opposed to God. Right. But it's very similar. And I think a lot of this and I know you do goes back to Babel. And we see that, you know, you talk and you talk a little bit about it here and you say that you talk a lot about it in your first book was the three rebellions, but getting into Babel, we know about those three rebellions. We did three separate shows on each of those. And we did a lot of our podcast. Oh, yeah. That was where we started. Yeah. Was on those. But, you know, really Babel kicks all this off for us, right. It does. Yeah. Yeah. And when you understand your audience, obviously, it's familiar with that contents that you've done three episodes on it. But when you understand Babylon is inseparable from the Babel event.

13:09It's like a light bulb that goes off. You know, it's like, well, John, why is Babylon the bad guy in the book of Revelation? And I talk about this in the introduction. Modern Christians, they see Babylon, something goes off and they see Rome. I mean, suddenly, it's just like, it's ingrained in us. A lot of people were taught that way to read the book that way. And I'm not saying Rome's not involved. Okay. But that's the seminary teaching. That's how people were trained. I mean, that's how that's how they're trained. Exactly. That's how I was trained. Rome is the only thing to see here. I don't dismiss Rome at all. I just simply say we're missing half the picture. We're missing the hand in the puppet that is animating Rome. Okay. And so when you understand Babylon is inseparable from the Babel event at the Babel event is where the God.

14:14The ancient world were given their territories and their people to govern over. We know they let them stray. Psalm 82 articulates that Deuteronomy 32. Other passages, Paul writes about it, the principalities, the powers, those are terms of cosmic geography of certain locations. The ancient world, this was ubiquitous. Everybody thought this, the Greeks, everybody was on the same page that the gods were given their land or territory by allotment. It all goes back to Babel. And this is why the world is in chaos. Right. This is why the world is the way it is. And you can't you can't get the new heavens and the new earth or what's next or eternity without. Getting rid of the problem. And so God wants to get rid of the problem in the book of Revelation. Okay. But here's the thing that people need to appreciate and we can get into the nuances of it.

15:20He's not just concerned about throwing the angels in the devil in the lake of fire. Okay. If it were that simple, it would be that simple. He is concerned about beating them at every facet of the world. Okay. This is like a challenge. God has been challenged for the right to rule heaven and earth. He's taking that challenge line by line and he says, okay. I'll play your game. The rule is in the ancient world to be the most high God, you have to defeat the chaos dragon of the sea. Without that claim, no one takes you seriously. So God says, I'll play that game. Genesis chapter 1 verse 2, what does God do? The spirit of God arrests the chaotic waters. The very second verse the Bible.

16:22He says, it's like he says down boy down. And it's a precursor. Again, before you can claim to create and articulate your creation over all these chapters in the Bible, you first have to defeat the dragon. That's what he does in the second verse the Bible. That theme of defeating chaos or the term is chaos, comp, it's a, believe it German word, it just means again to defeat chaos. That theme is throughout the Bible. I talk about that in the book Leviathan, behemoth, that's in the book of Revelation. That's why we have these chaos monsters in there. Again, if half the narrative is defeating Babylon, we're going to use Babylonian imagery. So the big takeaway of this book, well there's several big takeaways, but one of the big takeaways is God is willing to play them at their own game.

17:25We're going to not only defeat you, literally, we're going to defeat your literature. We're going to defeat your motifs. We're going to defeat your themes. We're going to use all these Babylonian touch points. And we're going to play a game of chess on each one of them. I'm going to defeat you on each one of these to show that I am the God of God's not martyck. So Babylon is the bad guy and God wants to defeat Babylon on every front. So I do talk about that a lot in the book. I know we can dig deeper, but that's. This is the, it's not the first time that happened in the Bible on a lesser level. You look at Egypt, right? When they're coming out of Egypt and the plot, wow, before they came out Egypt, but the plagues. If it says that God waged war against the gods of Egypt, it wasn't against the people. It was against the gods. So God always goes and then that the plagues back and forth and having the magicians able to do some of these things, you know, Moses says, forgive my weak use your power. Yes.

18:31But God allows them to kind of play along for just a little bit first three play or not first two plagues plus the staff as a stick, you know, turns into a snake. He lets he lets them play along. Then he's like, guess what? Anything you can do, I can do better. You know, boom. And I just think it's cool because we see that. And we see that God uses that as a, you know, for the Egyptian people, I firmly believe that a lot of those Egyptian people God showed who the true God was and a lot of those Egyptians probably left with the Israelites from the promised land because God gave him that chance. He was showing them who God was. And it was a war against their gods, each of the plagues was against a specific Egyptian God. It's the same kind of thing. And not only was he destroying them, you know, on a literary sense, but it was also all I care you referred to as the chessboard because this is a not only the feet of chaos, but it's also a gathering back of the nations and the gods kingdom.

19:34So I mean, it's a fight for territory, but it's also a fight for souls. So if you're trying to win a people back, you know, a really high likelihood or success rate would be to emulate stories that were familiar to them. Exactly. I'll let Steve, I like what you said, you know, referencing the power and the rods. One connection point, I would bring out and I talked about this in my first, my first book. Again, another illustration of God beating the entity at their own game. So the rod, an Egypt at the fair would have or his magicians would have those rods were an extension of the God, they were actually called the rod of the gods. They were in dude with power from on high, if you will. That is why the magicians were able to do actually real things with those rods. God takes that that idea and he uses a shepherd's rod.

20:37Just a normal, normal ride that normally wouldn't have any power to defeat them at their own game. So again, God, I mean, God doesn't have to play anybody's game. That's that's the funny thing. God doesn't have to play anybody's game. He can make all the rules. He can throw you out of the stadium at any time. But God gives us all free will. He gives the angels free will. You know, outside of the watchers who are locked under gloomy chains of darkness, the rest of the powers of darkness are still running amok. He allows them to, he allows everybody to choose what side they're on and to not only choose the side, but to, you know, to do acts of service to their side. He allows you, if you want to go into darkness, to go into the darkness, he allows those angels to be interdimensional rebels. He allows that. But it's amazing that despite God's allowance of those things, he puts himself in the narrative.

21:55He will play by these human rules or he'll play by the, you know, the rules or the, the themes of Egypt and he'll beat him at their own game. He will beat them at their own game. It's so funny to watch, you know, retrospect thousands of years later to see the dominance of God over the gods. But even to see his participation, it's just like, you know, you have a little fake mouse and on the string and you're just kind of, you know, you play with the cat and the cat thinks it's going to win at any time you could, you could destroy the cat or put the cat in the backyard or you could, you know, move the little mouse on the stick away in the cat wouldn't know where it went. That's kind of how it is. I mean, God is so powerful, so above, but he plays the game and he's going to win the game. But he ultimately does, right? We all know the end story. I mean, that game. And that's the part that always kind of blows me away is, is, you know, just like when Jesus came and, and, you know, the, I am Legion.

23:04Part of it where they're like, have you come to torment us before our time? They know it's coming. They know. So I mean, it's a pretty powerful thing, but like, like Justin said earlier, it's a fight for souls, right? This is the, this is the, who's coming with me? You know, it's it, is it, you know, who's coming to heaven with me? I want to bring as many people as I can. We say it all the time. We want to empty, empty hell and populate heaven. That's just, that's just the focus of what this show, you know, it's, a big focus of what the show has been. And, and also connecting a big part of this was the part that, you know, and this is where your book was so spot on. And I love how you bring in all those different references. And you show that. But the biggest part that we see that the problem the church has a hard time with is the supernatural. And that's something that you talk about. That's supernatural side of things. And I just think it's really cool to have another, another writer in this space, another person. Cause let's be honest, me and Justin talk about this sometimes in this space. I'm still young.

24:10But you know, most of the guys that we look up to and watch and read are, are, you know, they're, they got a few years on us. Yeah. So it's awesome to have another guy who's, I mean, man, I'm old enough to be your dad. But I'll tell you that it's a nice, awesome, I have another young guy in this space that is just so thought provoking and has that, that grasp on the supernatural realm that's getting this word out to people because this, you know, these, these guys you Justin, these are the, these are the, the torchbearers for the future when this because those other guys aren't going to always be there. And every day we're a little bit closer to that, that end. You're so right, man. I, I thought about that before, you know, a lot of the, the guys that have been in this, um, uh, niche side of, of, you know, this understanding unraveling the supernatural, a lot of them, some of them have gone on, you know, passed away, gone on their reward. Um, you just never know it, but, but you look and you say we need some, some younger folks in here to talk about this. So my hats off to both of you guys, for putting in the work, putting in the, putting making the content accessible, growing your audience.

25:25Man, I mean, this is spiritual warfare 101. I mean, this is where the rubber meets the road, um, where the Bible meets the heart. I mean, this is, this is so important. So, um, hats off to you guys too. Well, we appreciate it. But like I said, this is all God that God put us in this place and there it's been pretty amazing. But pass that. Let's jump in to, um, a little bit of that supernatural. Let's keep going down that track. You know, you talk about, I think it's important. I know you talked a little bit about with Justin too, but, you know, this book is a, is a overall view of revelation. Yeah. The spiritual warfare side of things is something that fascinates me. We've talked to a couple people on, on those ideas and what people see and what they, you know, think is around them and how, you know, angels versus demons work. If you look at like, um,

26:28Oh, I can't remember who the, I think it was Frank Peretti or somebody wrote that book where you the supernatural realm around you. But, uh, angels, these, this present darkness, this present darkness. I think angels demons is the other one. I think you're right. But there's this supernatural war going on all around us. And how do you see that? I mean, when you look at revelation and you see this, and you're seeing this Babylonian, I mean, you even point out who you believe the four horsemen are, which I think is awesome. And it makes sense the way you lay it out. Um, but how do you see that supernatural war happening all around us right now? How do you see things ramping up? Because I see it, the way I see it. It's in the church. It's in the people around you. It's in the grocery store. It's wherever you go. But how do you see that happening? Yeah, it's, uh, I believe demons plan. I believe they plot. I believe they are calculated manipulative, deceptive.

27:31And ultimately, they are scrambling. For more time, they are scrambling for more souls. So how do I see it manifesting? It is not just one thing. Um, I kind of picture the powers of darkness with their leaders, writing on the chalkboard, so to speak, drawing out different strategies. For various in times, deception scenarios. Um, and I think that's foreign to a lot of people. I think it's like they envision demons as floating ethers that have no brains. They, they have been around for so long. They have made many mistakes. They're so intelligent, undoubtedly. So powerful. That for us to underestimate what they're planning or what they're doing. I mean, we would be so foolish to do that.

28:40And I think overall the church is just not even aware that this is real. I mean, I've even talked to some Christians that think after Jesus rose from the dead. That was it. Like there's no more threat. There's no more demons. There's no more powers of darkness. We're just waiting for for the end time. And it's like until you absentee landlord. Yeah. There you go. Until you are aware and get the backstory. Okay, that thing. That's the first step for the church. Get the backstory. Okay, there's a lot of great books, materials out there. You know, I've written on it. Others, there's documentaries. There's a lot of free stuff on my get the backstory because when you get the backstory of those three rebellions, then you began to see strategy. You began to see victory, defeat, planning, different players of the powers of darkness.

29:53Even some punishment being dealt out. Some promises of future punishment. Once you once it becomes real to you, you know what I mean? When it becomes real to you, then the average Joe at church can start to see and have his eyes open to the things that we're talking about. So how do I see it playing out? A lot of different ways. I see it playing out in the church. Faith. I see an attack on faith. Attack on God. I see complacency in so many believers. Faith on cruise control. I see the powers of darkness in the government. I see the powers of darkness in the schools. I see the powers of darkness in families. And I see the powers of darkness even coming after me.

30:58So it is so real. I'm working on a, I think I told you guys earlier. Book number three, another book, top secret, top secret. I'll give you hint. The word might be declassified. Okay. The UAP phenomenon is huge. That's going to be the topic of my next book. That is a whole nother entity of itself. But what it shows you, if you begin to study some of this material and the plan that's in place, it shows you how they are patient. The demonic realm is patient. They are waiting to strike. They are waiting for disclosure. They are waiting for, and that's just one, one avenue, the UAP phenomenon, the demonic connection. That's just one. There's so many like it. That's what I'm saying.

32:07They're not unilateral. They're multi-faceted. It is a complex, hierarchal organization of darkness that is global. So that's my thoughts. I think it's a military unit, even as small as the screw tape letters. It's just as micro as you get aggravated by the guy that cuts you off in traffic. The little demon just whispers a suggestive thought to switch to the right hand lane without using the mirror. It cuts you off. Therefore, you get mad and cussed. Though you middle finger out the wind and disregard your fish sticker in the back window. It can be as simple as that. I love your thought on that. I love the way that, and you got to think about it too, we're all unique. We all are going to be attacked in unique ways. Whether it's someone, the UAP thing is big on somebody. I still, I'm old enough to say UFO. I'm not in the full UAP thing.

33:10When we talk about that phenomenon, we can talk about all these other things that people get amped up or hyped about, or just that they're totally oblivious to it. That's another way that they're attacked. The greatest trick that devil ever played was letting the world think it didn't exist. There's all these different ways that were attacked. I absolutely love your imagery of the chalkboard. Because isn't it? Isn't there a Justin, you're be able to tell me the verse. I know you are, but we're God sitting with his counsel and they're talking about the different ways that they could attack. King A.Hab chapter 18. It's a boom. And that's exactly it. And he's going through and saying, okay, you know, what's your ideas? It's the same thing. God's doing it. I would, I would think that the evil side, they see, hey, that works for him. Let's sit together. Let's pool our ideas. And you know what? You go here, you go here, you do this. It's a big, it's a strategic plan with someone who's been alive and been around alive as a loose.

34:10But been around way longer than we have with so much more knowledge. Those are weaknesses knows these things. And this is why when we speak things, you know, when it says you can speak things into existence, you know, I give my weaknesses to the enemy. If I'm, if I'm sitting there and I'm like Justin said, I'm in traffic going, guess what? They can come after me that way. If I'm, you know, over here being attacked a different way, they can come at me because they see my weaknesses. They don't know our thoughts. They don't know our thoughts. You know, I think that's why I said, you know, go to go to the inner place and secret, you know, pray and secret not in front of everybody because they can even hear your prayers and attack you that way. That's a great, that's a great point. It's 100% I think that we're, we're all attacked in unique ways. But I think it's, I think you're right. I think it's just a spider web of connections that spreads out. And the way that that you're going to be attacked is different than Justin is different than me. And I, you know, I know my weaknesses. I know how I've been attacked. I know the, the way that that, I know the way that, you know, when I say, when I say Satan, I mean that very loosely, I mean the powers of darkness.

35:22Yeah. That I know how they, that he knows how to attack me or those powers know how to attack me. I know my weaknesses. We have to know our weaknesses. We have to strengthen ourselves to be ready for that to know what our weaknesses are so that we know how to combat that when we get attacked. So it's just like any, you know, you have to wear that full armor or God. It's the same thing. I know I don't need to rehash this stuff. I, me and Justin are so different. A lot of times where I am the salvation guy and Justin's the fringe guy, but we like to meet in the middle. You know the main. Yeah, that's, that's where we're at. And we, and I think we balance each other out. But I don't, I don't want to sit there and as Paul said, I don't want to sit there and be on the milk. You know, we're ready for solid foods. Let's get after it. So I'm going to let Justin jump in here. I've been asking all the questions and take us down a couple deep dives. I want, I want to see Tyler's brain do a couple jump in jacks and let's, let's, let's see, let's stretch that thing. Which I know the last time we talked, you'd mentioned, you know, the ancient text of the enuma on the inlil. Yeah. And how you see all the

36:34divination in their life. You know, right. See this sign in the heavens. You know, it's the best time to do this or this symbol or sign means that, you know, we kind of just, you know, lightly touched on that a little bit. Could you go in and like give a, I don't want you to give the whole book away. So when people go read this thing, but just like a specific example of something in revelation that was a sign and having that correlates to this ancient text from Babylon. Yeah. The enuma on the inlil is something that flies under the radar. Well, I mean, most Babylon stuff does, but the enuma English usually gets all the attention, which is the creation story. But the enuma on the inlil was was less abstract and it was more to the point. It was more like you said, there's 7,000 scenarios literally.

37:43He was on a belief set us basically 70 tablets. There were some 7,000 scenarios. I didn't realize it was 70 tablets. That has astronomical stuff on it too, you know. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, that's that was so important because basically the stars, you know, God made the stars for his glory. That subtle deception came in going back to the watchers of Genesis 6 and Enoch 6. They taught man astrology. Now the stars became the tablets of the gods instead of the glory of Yahweh. And now when you see these constellations in this pattern or remove this way, I want you to know that your God thinks this at this moment in time or I want you to know or I want you to pray to your God at this certain time on this certain day.

38:50There was an array of commands again 7,000 scenarios. Some of them were more trivial. You know, some of them had to do with, you know, normal day to day stuff, whether it be harvest or whatnot. Then obviously some are more demonic and spiritual. That became the lexicon of the ancient world literally for astronomy astrology study the stars. Many people think, well, how is it worth to do the revelation, revelations, first century church. The material from Babylon on the stars survived hundreds of years after the early church. You and I, modern people don't really know this because we don't even look at the stars from that mindset. We look at, we might look up in the stars if there's a, you know, the northern lights or if there is a, you know, some phenomenon, you know, a meteor shower or something.

39:59And we go about our business, but, but literally that was like part of their regiment, part of their day. We have to look up the stars, see what the gods say. In that mindset, you know, again, stayed with people well past John's audience. So they knew exactly what was going on. So, how's God going to play them at their own game. Well, we have various astral prophecies in the book of Revelation. They really don't make a lot of sense without the Babylonian lexicon. Okay, they, they make some sense and we can talk about it, but they don't really make a whole lot of sense, like the four horsemen, for example. You know, we don't have to know their identities. We can get the point, but it means a whole lot more when we can unravel the codified language with the lexicon of the stars in the ancient world. Just so happens to be Babylonian.

41:02Now we learn their names. We learn you have one God of the netherworld. You have one God of war. You know, you have the router on the white horse. Marduk, who's mentioned twice in the Old Testament, in the book of Jeremiah, who's seen as a savior figure, a deliverer of the oppressed. He's now God of gods. The great deceptive white horse equestrian. Again, it's a good shepherd also. Yeah, yeah. So, um, none of that really hits home until you understand the enuma anu inlil. But again, it's, uh, it's one of many examples in, you know, the book revelation that has that Babylonian material. But I would encourage, you know, the listeners to pick up a copy to dive deep in that material. I know you guys have an, um, I pray it, I pray it blesses people.

42:09I pray that they'll see things in the text that are really there, but they've never seen it before because they didn't have the backdrop or the awareness to look for it. Um, I lean on a lot of scholars as well. You know, these are not all ideas are original to me. Um, I try to cite those in the book. Um, but yeah, I went off on a tangent there, but Jason, a rabbit, I guess. No, you're perfect. That's perfect. Because it's a lot of people feel realized that the throne room scene, you know, God's throne. It mentions the, uh, the chair of them. Yeah. And the four faces, those correlate directly to the, the four corners of the Babylonians, Odeaac. So like you said, it ties directly into the book of revelation. It really does. Um, you know, even, um, I even talked about this in the book. Um, it's the chapter in Tyler, the war, the war in the stars.

43:17You know, I talked about the innumerable, the seven thousand scenarios on the 70 tablets, which by the way, I'm glad you, you made that comment. You know, there's 70 nations, 70 gods, coincidence. I don't think so. And seeing the Septuagint says 72. Yeah, there was a, you know, a two, you know, discrepancies, discrepancies, ever takes you read. Depending on some of those nations, they divided out in some, they, uh, basically absorbed into one. And that translates to astronomical stuff because when you get into the procession of the equinox, there's, uh, 72 years for one degree. For the sun to move inside of the astrological house. It's pretty fascinating. I would love to dig deeper into that for sure. I think what you said and going through all this, I think that's the important part. And this is, is anything we read scripturally, we go back, you can go through Genesis and all the way through revelation.

44:28And if you don't know who was writing it, what was going at the time, you know, you don't have the context, we say it all the time, context is context. If you don't have context, you, you might get part of the story, but you're not getting the whole story. You know, we'd like to take anything in scripture and be able to just plug it into our life like boom. You know, hey, this, this applies to me right now. Well, I'm sorry, the book of Corinthians was written to the Corinthians, you know, to the church of Corinth, it wasn't written to you. Doesn't mean there's not things you're supposed to pull from that, but it's the same thing. Revelation's, you know, one of those unique books that is written to us more or less. So, but we have to always understand context. And if you don't have that full picture, you're not going to get everything out of it that God wants you to get out of it. You know, it's, it's that verse we say in Proverbs, it's a glory of God to conceal things as glory of kings to search things out. And that's the whole point. We're supposed to dig into that and find those things. And we're not all going to find the same truth. But that context, you know, you're meant to share something just as meant to share something I'm meant to share something, but that context is so important when reading our Bible so that we get the full picture.

45:37It really is. I'm thinking of example here in that same chapter where I talked about the new man who in the middle of the four horsemen, the four living creatures. If y'all don't mind, I want to, I'll read a little bit just a page and a half or whatever from this kind of go deep. Give some context what I'm about to speak to, but says while our attention as far as been primarily on the four horsemen and the four colored horses, the four living creatures who summoned the demonic writers in Revelation six are also important in seeing Babylonian connections. The creature is in Revelation six, derire from Ezekiel one five. Of course, then I saw Ezekiel one five. And then in both Revelation six and Ezekiel one, the living creatures faces are described as being similar to those of a lion and ox, a man and an eagle. I talk about again the constellations that correspond to the four horsemen that corresponds to the enumonu enlil.

46:43I have a chart there on page one of fifteen. It's on some other pages, but basically there's a pattern. There's always a color associated with a planet associated with a god associated with a constellation associated with a direction. That is all per the enumonu enlil. And so here I talk about again, like Zachary I did with the colored horses and the four wins. The four card on directions, the prophet Ezekiel and John signified the chart for constellations through the faces of the four living creatures. This picture is powerfully polemic to his ekels audience. Babylon's deities must submit to the throne of god too. That John also sees the faces of the four living creatures appear as constellations associated with Babylonian deities, dismantles Babylon's religious prowess and foreshadows their eschatological defeat. So again, things are so deep in the book of Revelation. Not only do you have this connection with the four horsemen, but now you have this connection to the Babylonian material with the four living creatures, which also connects to Ezekiel chapter one.

47:55Again, so I hope maybe we're paying the picture of there are layers to this thing. It's not as simple as I'm going to zoom out 3,000 feet and take a picture. But when you zoom in on the pixels, right to the picture and you see that each pixel is represented with some level of connectivity to the Old Testament, and to Babylonian material, and to ancient Near Eastern material, and to enog material. I mean, it's just mind boggling. It's definitely interwoven like like grandma's blanket. Does grandma blankets are the best man, they're heavy, you know? Oh yeah. Yeah, it's like a birthright too. It gets passed down the lineage to the to the to the eldest.

48:57Yeah, that's right. Man. Well, I just, I want to keep going down that same vein. I want you to talk a little bit about the four horsemen and where you pull, because I think it's pretty amazing the connections. I say, I don't want to give away everything in the book. And there's actually, I can't say that because it would take us. The amount of information you have in here, it would take us hours and hours and hours to give away the book. But the four horsemen and how you put that together where it comes from, once again, using the context, I think is such a cool connection to something that I had. I mean, that was, that was one of those moments when I'm reading the book and I'm like, whoa, like that's just cool to me. That blew me away. So if you want to, can you dive into that just a little bit of how you pulled that and maybe potentially, if you don't mind throwing out who these deities are and who they, who they were and the connections to the old testament as well.

50:04Yeah, sure. Let's get ready to rumble. Now I feel pumped. Yeah, I'll talk about that briefly. And then I wanted to kind of connect that to basically one of the prophecies that y'all may have talked about before. The birth of Christ September 11, 3 BC, Dr. Heiser was very instrumental in bringing that out to the forefront for a lot of people. But I'm going to, I'm going to come to that in just a minute because it sort of connects. But yeah, in the, the forehorsement again, you have these demonic writers who remain nameless in the book of Revelation. But again, when you start to see there is a pattern and I'll kind of briefly talk about that.

51:05So essentially each demon is associated with a certain color and that's kind of the key takeaway. The idea that in the Babylonian, the new Monty, we know each color is assigned to a certain deity. It's important because the deities with the demons and Revelation are assigned a certain color, the router of the horse or the horse. And so again, you have Mardik, which is really the primary focus, kind of the most important there in the forehorsement. And he's also in the book of Revelation elsewhere and I'm going to talk about that in a minute, but he's the router on the white horse. He's the one who has the bow. Let's, let's take the imagery that John gives us. He has a bow in his hand and the crown was given to him, the router on the white horse. How did Mardik, if this is Mardik, how does this make sense? It makes sense not only because of the Anumonu inlil and the color connection.

52:10But when you look at who Mardik was and how he gained supposed power, he gains supposed power again by defeating Tiamat with a bow and arrow, splitter and, you know, to the chaos dragon, and then was crowned King of the Gods. He has that same bow and arrow in Revelation with that same crown, parading around as King of the Gods of Babylon. In other words, he's the ringleader in various parts of Revelation. So that was powerful to see that bow and arrow crown connection. But there's other connections too. You know, another example would be basically the deity or the demon Nernartha here.

53:12For example, the Nernartha is associated with the planet Saturn and the color black. I write here in the book that the colors are connected to the constellations can be shown. The clearest example is black or scorpio where the Bible says I looked and there was a black horse and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hands. Since the two claws of scorpio were also seen as the balances of Libra, the connection is obvious. And so, you know, literally you have a literal constellation in the sky, you know, you pictured the pictures right of a scorpion which were seen in the ancient world also as the balances of Libra. And the color black is associated with scorpions and also that particular deity. So another example of us unraveling the mystery when we have, you know, the divination manual from the ancient world.

54:24Proper context. Another one, you have Nurgle. Okay, Nurgle is on the spell, the pale or the speckled horse. What's connected with Nurgle, the constellation Leo. Okay. South is also connected with Leo. Nurgle, who was the king of the netherworld, king of the netherworld connected with wild animals, death and pestilence. So therefore in the book of Revelation there was one on the pale horse and the name of him who sat on it was death and Hades followed him. A power over fourth of the earth was given to him to kill with a sword with hunger with death in my beast of the earth. So you have the Lord of the dead, the Lord of the netherworld right there in the book of Revelation and it connects again with the Babylonian divination manual. So those are the things that I, you know, I go through in the book.

55:26Let me, let me jump over if it's okay. For sure. I wanted to talk about going back to one of those astral prophecies that, you know, Dr. Hiser brought out in his material in his, I believe was in his book, reversing Hermann. If it may, I think it was, but he brought out that Jesus Christ based on the astral prophecy. You know, in the book of Revelation was born on September 11, 3 BC. Made a compelling case. I believe he's right. I've looked at it in, you know, pretty good depth. I write about that in the book. You know, the chapter of Revelation 12 went through six. That's the astral prophecy, the great son in heaven, a woman clothed with a sun, the moon was under her feet.

56:30And on her head was a crown of 12 stars. She was with child. She cried out with pain. The dragon was there to devour her. Dr. Hiser said, when you, you plug all that data, those constellations in their positions into an astronomy program, it populates a date of September 11, 3 BC. One thing I investigated in this book is, I say, okay, if Jesus was born in September 11, 3 BC, could it have any meaning to the powers of darkness to that he was born in that particular month? So I did a little investigating in this same chapter that's the forehorsement. I talk about the forehorsement. Basically, the month was Toshritu. There's a chart on page 120 if people get the book. They can see it.

57:35I didn't realize that the Jewish calendar was so modeled after the Babylonian calendar and two I started doing study for this book. A lot of the months almost sounded exactly the same. Now, this wasn't always the case from my study, but it became the case, especially after a lot of Jews went into Babylonian captivity. But anyways, the month of September is again in the Babylonian phraseology Toshritu. It's the month Tishri in the Jewish calendar. So I started asking questions, digging for answers. Is there any significance in the month of Tishri or Toshritu or September? Was there any Babylonian significance? I'm just asking, especially when you have the Magi who visited Jesus to give him gifts and homage, the Magi were connected with basically Babylon.

58:49That part of the country they were pagan priest is what they were. Magi were a part of the priestly service. So in other words, if they're not in the Babylonian part of the country, what were they supposed to be doing as a... What would pagan priests be doing in the month of September? In other words, what did they abandon to go serve Jesus for? So let me give you a couple examples. So in the month of September or Tishri or Toshritu, there is a great celebration called the Akitu Festival. This is a big deal. The Akitu Festival was their New Year celebration. Now similarly to the Jews who had multiple kind of New Year's, they had a literal calendar New Year and then they had more of a ceremonial New Year.

1:00:00It was sort of the same thing as going on a battle on, but I'll keep going here. They had this Akitu Festival. It was a 11-day festival in the month of Toshritu. The Akitu Festival was a time for the guides to decree fates and for the reign of earthly kings to be renewed or struck down. It was also momentous for Marduk. When you already talked about him, the router on the White Horse. Ancient text revealed that again, the Akitu Festival in Babylon, Marduk would annually leave his temple in the month of Tashritu. He would leave his temple and convene in the holy Akitu Chapel outside the city's walls with his band of lesser gods.

1:01:01On the fourth day of the festival, the priest resided the Anuma-Elish, which is their creation story, which described Marduk's victory over the Chaos Monster Tiamat. On day 5, the cultic priest re-enacted the Anuma-Elish to reinforce the mythical victory of their Lord. When the festival was completed, Marduk went back to his temple where he was re-enthroned as Patreon deity. His renewed subjects then sang a celebratory hymn to acknowledge him as King of the Gods. That was just one of several examples of religious connotations or religious ceremonies, religious holidays that take place in the month of September. I also talk about how the Ananaki, basically on the festival of Marduk, sacrifices were offered to the Ananaki. That's a whole other rabbit trail in that itself.

1:02:09I'm asking the question, and I believe the answer is there's no coincidences that God sent Jesus into the world on September in the month of Tashritu or Tishri a month that is pregnant with meaning. No pun intended. Pregnant with meaning from the war between Yahweh and the Gods. A lot of times, again, we look at things, maybe unilaterally, we look at one firing lane, we say, what's the meaning from maybe the Hebrew perspective, or what's the meaning in the first century? And we forget that God doesn't forget. God has a long memory, and he wants to win every battle, every discussion, and he will play you at your game. And so I just think it's fascinating that with an astral prophecy that makes a whole lot more sense with Babylonian context, Jesus is going to be born in the month that their God of Gods was supposedly re-enthroned as King of the Universe.

1:03:24That was powerful for me, going through and seeing that this war is more complex, deeper than I could ever imagine, the book of Revelation to be, but that's exactly what I was finding that there were surface layers, and then there were deep, deep layers. That are there to find if we seek out the scriptures and we have an open mind to looking at multiple interpretations or multiple repositories of context, if we're just unilateral, and we're going to see one thing, but there's so many things to survey, so many things to take in, so many things to evaluate and consider. And I think that that is one big reason why Jesus was born in September.

1:04:28Actually, interesting thought on that, and I don't know if when that changed, so say if we go back and we look at the Maseroth, the zodiac, and how that originally came down, if we look right now the way that the beginning of September is, and I would born in September, but the beginning of the September, it's kind of funny that it's Virgo. It's the Virgin that actually falls on that date, but if you go back and we talked about this before, but if you go back to how the original Maseroth, the oldest one that you can find is actually on the ceiling of a temple in Egypt and Enza, and that temple, the way that that zodiac set up, is it begins with Virgo and ends with Leo. And it actually has this finks in the middle of those two with the head pointing towards Virgo, signifying the beginning and Leo being the end. And so if you look at the stars originally, the way it was set up, because God created them obviously, but you see that trek where Virgo is the Virgin, it's the Virgin birth, and if you go through each of those, it is the story of Jesus' birth all the way to Leo, the lion of Judah coming back at the end.

1:05:42And doing this, I don't know if that has changed as far as the what months and times that were associated, but I do find that pretty interesting that the time that Jesus would have been born at is now how when we depict Virgo. I just think that that is an interesting connection as well. And what I was going to say too is we've talked about the onion and how everything's just hyperlinked. Well, when you go into the Jewish perspective, and we miss all this because we're not Jewish, but he was the light of the world, what he referred to as. So the right lot of the world was announced during the festival of lights. If you follow that time trail, and when I've done episodes on the dig about all that, so he was announced during the festival of lights, he was born during the week of the feast of Tabornacles.

1:06:43That's when they celebrate that God dwelt amongst his people and the spirit of God came down onto the whole list of holies with Moses and all those guys in the wilderness. So here physically God came down and dwelt with his people physically. And then you go down through like Sukkut, the first look Sukkut, layered in that was Psalms 82, the judgment of the fallen sons of God and the reclaiming of his nations. When you go through there, it's a week festival and they sacrifice all these different animals. When you go through and look at that, they'll kill seven bulls on this day and it goes down. And I think I read that in my reverse and herm on, but they were referred to as the bulls of Bashan. Even in that Psalms, the many bulls of Bashan surround me and that was the spiritual side of the crucifixion.

1:07:47But when you add up those bulls during the feast of Sukkut, there was exactly 70 bulls. It was God showing his people that these, you know, fallen sons of God, Deuteronomy 32, were going to be judged and he was going to be reclaiming his people. And that's why when he called out Abraham, you know, he said through your name, all nations shall be blessed. So it's just a beautiful, hyperlinked story that it's not connected to your salvation. But man, if you learn the context and the Jewish perspective and the Babylonian perspective, you get all this, it just reaffirms your faith and just makes the story that much more amazing. It really is. It's kind of like you go watch a movie and everybody sees the same movie. But a lot of people don't pay attention to the credits. And there are stories with each of those people in the credits in their production of that movie.

1:08:54And so sometimes we get a behind the scenes look, you know, and we see how a movie was made. We get to see faces with the names and the credits and it becomes, I don't know, more alive, more real. You don't have to understand all the stories behind the people in the credits. But when you start to see some of those behind the same things, it gives you a different perspective on how the movie was made. And I'm glad you brought up the, you know, secote and the, you know, feasts of boost, tabernacles, because you're right. The pagans offered 70 bulls and Israel during that festival would offer 70 bulls. Not a coincidence. Like you said, God is, is playing them at their own game. For the pagans, the 70 bulls was a symbol of their bovine gods. Not that they were literal bulls, but they were depicted in bovine terminology in Psalm 24 and other places because of the strength.

1:10:02They owe a bowl of heaven. Yeah, the bowl of heaven. That's right. Because of their strength that they, you know, have. And so God, again, God could ignore that, but he doesn't. God says, I'm going to use that concept and I'm going to let my people right kill 70 bulls of sacrifice, if you will, to show my power of their deliverance from the gods in the wilderness. So another example of God playing them at their own game. Yeah, he wants a total win across the board. He wants a eight for the 90s kids. He wants a flawless victory. That's right. Man, I tell you what, I feel like we could go and go and go on this stuff, man, but Justin, you got anything other deep dives you want to jump into right now?

1:11:07I'm good. I mean, like you said, we could go for hours. That's the, I think they're even really good in his books, the, the crossing of the Red Sea. You know, there was a reason why God told him to stop turning around and face bells of fine. That's right. The storm gods of God, you know, it was God being like, okay, bail, hold my beer and watch this. He's like you say he'll beat him at their own game. Yeah, stuck between bail and scripture. Yeah, that's good. I know. I think I remember when Derek said that I think he was back in his book, The Great Inception. I want to say, yeah, he's when he brought that out, but, um, but yeah, you're right. There's so many things we just scratched the surface of some of the stuff I try to dig into dig deep into in the book revelation. You know, we didn't even get into the seven churches of Asia and how there's subtle Old Testament language in the Jesus investigation into the seven churches that would prove that the primary problem is idolatry in the churches.

1:12:21That was their primary scene, their primary issue. How do we know that? Well, you get you get examples Old Testament examples and they're like, uh, bail him gets brought up the bail himites, Nicolayotens. There's there's basically a group of Christians who get nicknamed Nicolayotens by Jesus, which connects to bail him and bail him was a pagan prophet. You get, you know, language of Jezebel, there is a Jezebel woman in the church. Jezebel, as we know, has pagan connections. So I talk about that in the book. That's one of the main things, you know, the early in the book is Jesus is acting as a forensic investigator and he's saying, I've investigated you and here's what I found in the problem is paganism in the church. Who would ever think that would be the issue. But it was. I talk a lot in the book about Messianic undertones in revelation that elevate Jesus to king of king.

1:13:30King of kings. That's a big thing because the last time that we heard from Jesus was in the book of Acts where he ascended in a cloud to go, you know, to be with the father. So it would have been many years since Jesus had been back in the narrative and now he's in the narrative and John wants his readers to know that Jesus is ascended back almost to his proper place. In other words, what gets set of Yahweh in the Old Testament, now get set of Jesus in the New Testament. So I talk a lot about that in the book. That's very important. And then we talked about some of the, you know, four horsemen stuff. That's big. But at the end, this is probably a good way to tie it up at the end in the book of Revelation. The Bible says in the New Heavens, the New Earth, and I don't care how you take that literal figurative. That doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter to me. It's neat to study. I just don't make the big deal about it.

1:14:37But the point is in that it says there will be no more sea. No more sea. It's like this. Just got hate the beach. You know, does it hate going to the beach? Because we like to be water fishing. We like saltwater fishing. You know, what's up? What's up with that killing me? So again, it was wrong with the sea. Well, again, the sea goes back to the chaos, the symbol of cosmic chaos, the uncontrollable that Yahweh controlled in Genesis 1, 2, at least in that snapshot there giving us his power over the dragon of the sea. But in the new creation, there will be no more sea. See, for all these thousands of years, God has been fighting the sea. He fought it in Genesis 1, 2. He fought it when Israel crossed the Red Sea. He fought it in the book of Revelation.

1:15:41He fought it in the Old Testament in Solomon's Temple, where in Solomon's Temple there was a, basically a, a bronze sea that had no functional purpose. It was way too large. I have all the dimensions and all the gallons of water in the book. He was like a swimming pool. There was a twin version of it in the Temple of Marduk. And in each temple, it represented that their God defeated chaos in the dragon of the sea. God thought it was important. If Marduk has one in his Temple, I'm going to have it in my Temple. But in the book of Revelation, it's like the struggle is over. God doesn't have to play the chess game anymore. The chess game has been won. The chess game, he made his last move. The sea is no more.

1:16:43And Jesus first act after basically defeating the sea, the new, his first act is to recreate the cosmos, the new heavens, the new earth. That's the image in the book of Revelation. Did you know that's exactly what Marduk claims he did after he defeated the sea in the dragon? He recreated the cosmos. So who gets the last word, who gets the last laugh in this cosmic struggle? Jesus the Messiah over Marduk, King of the Gods, at Babylon. And until that happens, we are a part of that cosmic struggle. We are a part of that cosmic story. I said earlier that God fights the war of the sea. What does Jesus ask us to do to follow him to be baptized in water?

1:17:50Water? The symbol of the struggle. We are literally immersing ourselves into the spiritual war. We're signing up for the Lord's Army, willingly going to battle, demonic entities with the sword of the spirit, engulfing ourselves in this long historical, storied struggle. Why? Because Jesus gives us hope. That's why Jesus is the answer. Jesus is going to win the battle. And all he's asked us to do in the book of Revelation is to stay faithful in the death. That's the only thing he asked. Be faithful unto death. Not perfect, but be faithful. Don't change your loyalty.

1:18:52Stay loyal to Jesus. And he will see you through. I appreciate you guys having me on the day on this podcast. I've really enjoyed the discussion. We've loved it, man. Why don't you go ahead and give a shout out where everybody can get your books, get you know, find you, follow you. Yeah, yeah, look out for UAPs, you know, all that stuff. Man, I'm on Facebook. You can hit me up, Tyler Gilritte. You'll probably find me on there. You can pick up a copy of my books, of course, on Amazon's the easiest place. They got that fast shipping, you know. But yeah, you can pick up both copies there. Dive in gospel over guides. Again, there's the first book. Gay to the guides is the one we've been, you know, talking about here on this podcast. And looking to drop another book in March of next year. So, you know, be on the lookout for that. Well, thank you guys for watching, for listening in. I got a feeling this isn't the last you're going to see Tyler with the dig here.

1:19:57But as we always say, Justin, keep digging. We steal the fire. Not to ruin, not to rain. Just to see through smoke and mirrors. And call the beast by name. They say the truth will cost you. Friends come but be some mind. But slavery wears us off to face when fires let us be high.