Government exists to secure your rights. Do you know what they are?

0:00Music Helping to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, this is the Constitution study on the America Out Loud Network with your host Paul Engel. According to the Declaration of Independence, governments are created to secure our rights. But how can we tell if they're doing their job if we don't understand our rights in the first place? Hello there, everyday Americans, Paul Engel here with the Constitution study where we read instead of the Constitution. Teacher Rice and Generations should be free. Glad you could join me today. You know, it's interesting. People talk about right, but when you ask them to define what is a right, they tend to stutter. They're not entirely sure. We talk about rights, but we don't always understand what is a right or there are different types of rights.

1:06And, and, you know, we are excited. I'm free of a speech and free of religion, but we understand the concept of right. What is a right? I've done some research on this. I've actually written articles on this and let me give you the brief understanding. So a right as defined legally is a just claim immunity or privilege. Now, that's the very basis. There's a lot that involves rights. Right? For example, you talk about a just a just claim, meaning you have a right to an attorney. If you can't afford an attorney, one would provide for you. You have a claim on government money to provide you an attorney. That is a right. You think of freedom of religion, freedom of speech. That's a just immunity. You have an immunity from being being infringed upon your freedom of speech, your freedom of religion, and a just privilege. Well, you have the right to vote. That is a privilege that you have. That is your right as a citizen of the United States.

2:10Now, rights are positive and negative. A positive right is something somebody must do for you. So think of provide you an attorney. A negative right is what someone cannot do to you. Think of the first amendment, right? Your freedom of religion. People can't infring on your freedom of religion, your freedom of speech. You're right to keep them bare arms. They can be alienable or unalienable. So certain rights, like the right to life, liberty, and property, are unalienable rights. They didn't come from government. They came from God. They came from our creator. So we have those rights. They can't be they can be infringed upon, but they can't be taken away. Take compare that with your right to vote. Right? That's that's given to you by government and government can take it away, generally as a as a punishment for a crime. So when we talk about rights, it's actually a lot more to them. But the to me, the core understanding of rights is in order for something to be a right, I must be able to exercise it without infringing on the rights of others.

3:21That that that is almost almost universally true. I say almost right because obviously if I if I have a right to an attorney and people have to pay taxes to get the attorney, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm taking their their money. But in general, when we talk about rights, can I exercise that right without infringing on the rights of others? That is one of the fundamental aspects of rights. And I want you to keep those those things in mind, right? Positive versus negative alien, versus unable in the question, can I exercise that right without infringing on the rights of another as we look at the stories that I want to get to today? That especially this first one because it involves a lawsuit and an activist group who's filed a motion to dismiss federal civil rights charges arguing that when it entered a church to disrupt the service, that conduct amount of pure speech and assembly was therefore protected by the first amendment.

4:27According to the motion, quote, the Constitution does not contain an exception to free speech and churches. All right, let me break this down a little bit because understand the legitimate use of a right does not involve the the deprivation or the infringing of a right of somebody else. So I mean, this is I believe it's a federal lawsuit. So I that's important to understand right you're talking about Congress shall make no law of a bridging among other things preventing your you're bridging for your speech, you're right to piece of the assemble all of that now. A federal grand jury and died at 38 people on the charge of violating the freedom of access to clinic entrance is act, which also protects access to churches and violating the clue, clux clan act, which criminalizes efforts to the private Americans of their fundamental rights. Now I've talked about the face act before I haven't really talked about the clue, clux clan act, but what we're dealing with this is a again question of conflicting rights.

5:35Now, according to the indictment agitators who were opposing immigration, customer enforcement, enter the church because one of the church pastors worked for ice and refused to leave when this group refused to leave when asked. And they shouted things like who shut this down we shut this down. They were screaming at crying children, they prevented parents from getting their children into Sunday school. One agitators told a child's parents they were not season going to hell. They were very disruptive. But I want to get back to the parts of the free exercise or the face act and the clue, clux, again, the, where does the Congress get the authority to determine access to clinics, right to make a clinic different than any other business they don't. What the deer talking about is churches and to me the clue, clux clan acts is the more is the better target because if I understand it correctly, it says if you try to pride people of their fundamental rights, then under clue, clux, clan act, that is a crime.

6:47Right. In this case, the claim is that they're depriving people of their ability to exercise their religion. They're free actually protected by the first amendment. This also, by the way, is their freedom to be to a peaceably assemble. You also have the liberty to go to a church service without being disrupted. In other words, in the exercise of their freedom of speech, they've this group violated the rights of others. And now they want to get out of jail free card saying we can do anything we want because it was speech and assembly except that's not the way rights work. When you use your right to infring on the rights of another, that is your right to no longer or legit. That's not a legitimate exercise of your right. Let me say that again, when you use your rights to infring on the rights of another, that is not a legitimate use of your rights. But there's another twist to this because according to the motion the defendants have provided, they said there was no alleged conduct that cross the line into violence, threats or anything that went beyond free speech.

7:55The protest was a little bit of peer peaches speech and assembly. Well, remember, a church is private property. Right. It's generally owned by some organization known as the church. Sometimes they're incorporated. Sometimes they're not, but it is private property. Your ability, your freedom of speech doesn't allow you to invade someone's private property and effectively take over. That is a deprivation of property. That's due process of law. It acts as if while we did with the ifs could they do the exact same thing in your living room? No, they couldn't, but that's the misunderstanding of rights or I should say this is the legal twist. Remember, these defendants are being counseled by attorneys whose job it is to get the best outcome for their client, meaning I don't know if the attorneys believe this motion or not, but to them it's the best move they have to get in their clients.

8:55They're not going to be able to get in their clients out of their charges. Again, the motion claims that the government is punishing the defendants because of their message. No, they're punishing the defendants because they deprived others of their rights. They invaded private property. They were asked to leave and didn't that stress passing. That's criminal trespass. The government is not replying to the government's activities meeting. That is not free speech, that is a deprivation of their freedom of speech. So I want us to consider this really seriously as we examine this rationally and with evidence, does someone have a right in their exercising of their rights to deprive you of your right? No. They don't. This idea that their speech the the the the Agitator speech is more important than the speech of the people Assembling for their service is ludicrous The idea that they have the right to take over someone else's property is ludicrous

9:57The idea that all they were doing was assembling they were not disrupting in others is ludicrous It is a legal ploy and I hope Not only does it fail, but I hope the judge Slaps it down with the the the true Ridiculousness that it deserves right? I Mean I really hope we get something along the lines of mr. Madison What you just said Is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard At no point in your rambling incoherent response Were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I mean that's what I'm thinking that that that would be the response That I would have if I were the judge which then again, I'm not Let's say look something else. So Dallas police have become the latest in the line of cities that are

11:01Shedding down their automatic license plate readers their flock cameras Now they're claiming it's because of a funding pause Not sure why the the that issued According to the department social media The they received notice that the governor Abbott issued a directive ending funding for flock camera use So they're shutting it down others. You know, we can't do it without the state's money So we're not going to do it Again, these on Mac like they've brought up a lot of questions about rights as I've said before People tell like the right to privacy you do not have a right to privacy in public What can be seen from public public view is not considered private Right if you want to do it behind closed doors close the curtains that's up to you once you're in the public There's you don't have a right to privacy It's how this information is collected and how it's used that is the the concern we have

12:03According to the Dallas police department. They said these cameras remain an important investigative tool And are used daily by detectors and officers develop leads identified vehicles associated with criminal activities and assistance solving crimes Okay, my question is how are you using them to a develop leads In other words when you go searching for someone's data Have a warrant They say we want to identify vehicles are associated with criminal activity Did you get a warrant to search for this information See I understand the logic these can be very powerful tools In certain criminal investigations the question is are these law enforcement agencies following the law the supreme law of land the constitution When it comes to storing collecting storing and accessing this data For example Um, okay, so the police department sets up these cameras to collect data except the police department doesn't hold the data

13:05Let me say that again the police department doesn't hold the data flock safety holds the data So in other words they've the the city has what signed a contract to Have a third party hold on to the data for them That to me is a concern Right, it's you're not saying we've got our data and we can we we we're setting up rules right This data can be accessed by a lot of people outside of the city's control. That's problem number one And as I've already mentioned how people gain access to this data um, does you know does it require anything more than a simple login ID Is there does it someone have to file a a a a a court order a a warrant that says i'm searching this data for this reason I've got probable cause supported by author affirmation. Why is it they don't have to supply a subpoena A warrant and that warrant not become part of the the audit trail right oh, okay

14:06I have a warrant to search for this Let me post the warrant onto the end of the database so that I know that my search was supported by this warrant because you've seen numerous situations where the law enforcement has violated the law You know in search of this frequently searching for love interests Right some of them have been prosecuted some not Uh, so you don't have a right to privacy, but you do have a right to be secure in your person's houses papers and effects And that means that the same way the police can't simply come up uh come up to on the street and say give me your your ID Legally they can't they have to have at least a reasonable articulal suspicion that you are involved in a crime either past present or future All right, that's important understanding and that is part of the problem with these cameras Is that no one is saying hey where's your reasonable articulal suspicion? Where's your probable cause? Where's your warrant That needs to be built into the system and there's no reason flop doesn't have to build in the system

15:08It's a private system That to me is another serious part of the problem here You're again, so it's not a question of your right to privacy But it is your right to be secure from unreasonable searches and seizures and These ALRPs have been used repeatedly for unreasonable searches and unreasonable seizures Now I have some more articles some more stories. I want to get into but before I do that I have a break coming up I want to remind you you know, we're still dealing with the after effects not just of COVID But with our government's response to COVID a Vaccine shedding vaccine injury long COVID these are all real these all exist What do we do? See the problem is the spike protein that's the the The part of the the the Toxic part that's the the inflammatory part of COVID-19. It's the part by the way Those mRNA vaccines taught your body to make that was the whole idea

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20:33Welcome back everybody American Jury join the Constitution State they were talking about understanding your rights Like it kind of guess I was going to get to the second amendment here some point in this program in here Absolutely correct because again the Constitution second amendment the right to keep in bear arms the right of the people to keep in bear arms Should not be in French now that's half of the second amendment The first amendment says the first half says a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state The right of the people to keep in bear arms should not be in French So we have a militia that's necessary to security of free state But it's the right of the people to keep in bear arms shall not be in French that has not stopped Political acting committees Courts politicians from simply ignoring the inconvenient truth that the right to keep in bear arms is not to be in French It's not to be encroached and crushed upon Now we're going back out to Hawaii where district judge claims that

21:34Hawaii's law That says we will not issue a firearm ownership license anyone under the age of 21 Doesn't violate the second amendment I contend that the very requirement of a fire or sh-arm ownership license Violates the second amendment because it infringes on a person's right to keep in bear arms It doesn't say an adults right It doesn't say someone over 21. It's the right of the people Now the the the judge by the way wrote the state presents significant evidence that both society and technology changed dramatically from the founding to a century later technological advancements and firearms in the 19th century render them more portable lethal and available To my responses so what See it doesn't say that the right of the people to keep in bear arms as long as they're not too portable or as long as they're not too lethal

22:35See the reason the the constitution when they drafted they were looking at fundamental rights And the fundamental understanding is you have a right to keep in bear arms It doesn't say by the way firearms it says arms that includes firearms. It includes swords knives bats batons Technically it includes cannons You can even make the argument that it includes nuclear weapons Now Someone out there's in the pool. Why would anyone need a nuclear weapon? Well, I don't can't think of one, but you know what It's not called the bill of needs. It's called the bill of rights And the answer for one is simple. Why do we have people armed? Well, we need a militia. We need on armed populists Why to make sure our state remain free Who here thinks that a who here remembered when people were talking about a president Using a small tactical nukes to put down uprights within the United States

23:40Who cares if it could it happen? Sure. We hear about it overseas. There's there's talking All is it's Putin getting ready to use a nuke Uh in the war in in Ukraine Well, what's the prevent someone from using one here? Not again. We'd have rules put in place. We have process been put in place But really if you're saying that the government says we need this in order to keep people safe What's the deterrent? Again, I'm not talking about people actually having nuclear weapons Maybe nuclear energy What if they come up with these you know small form factor Uh nuclear reactors the the the modular nuclear reactors As the government going to say you can't have them because you might turn into a weapon and that would be dangerous You have it right to keep and bear arms of all sorts keep meaning to own bear meaning to carry It says nothing about age So this district judge violated her oath of office her name was uh uh was it Jill a keo otekai otekai uh

24:46She violated her oath because she ignored the constitution The constitution Doesn't say the right to keep bear arms as long as they're not too portable or not too lethal or not too available We have a right to keep in bear arms by the way that doesn't require age There's no age restriction in the second amendment Now there's a a parental over understanding of a responsibility There were guns in my house for as long as I've known As a small child there were guns in the house And you know what my father Taught me as a small child you don't touch the guns Trust me. I was more worried about getting a beating from my father Then what might happen if I what if I touch a gun When I was old enough my father taught me gun safety and how to shoot a gun or how to handle a gun When I was old enough. I had access to the guns I didn't have to get his permission. He didn't have to go out with me I could go and use the guns as long as I was safe with them

25:49That's the right to keep him bear arms It doesn't have an age restriction to it But this is nothing again. I don't have the right to use my right to keep bear arms to harm someone else Right, I can't go walking down the street wave in my gun around shooting into the air That would infringe on the rights of others But I have a right to both own my guns and to keep them on my person to to bear them to carry them in public And this judges belief that well, they're just too lethal Doesn't supersede my right This judge is wrong. They're her decision is wrong And her decision by the way is not law Yeah, I want to make that one point two. It's not law. It's her decision and the wise law is superseded by the the Constitution has states The problem we have is way too many people Don't really understand rights. They think rights are fine until government has a reason to infringe on them

26:51I mean, how often do I talk about uh courts and this idea of strict scrutiny and intermediate scrutiny and and rational basis these are all Standards that a court has created not the law not the Constitution a court come up came up with with how hard government has to work in order to infringe on your rights You see if you look at this What this judge is basically saying listen the state has said Our our our interest our state interest in regulating guns is sufficient to infringe on the right of 18 to 20 year olds from Getting our permission to have a firearm except the compelling government interest The only compelling government interest a government legitimately has is to protect our rights This is you know, they're saying we have a right because well, we have a compelling Government insisting keeping people safe Your compelling comfort and interest is in keeping is protecting people's rights so they can keep themselves safe

27:53It's this misunderstanding of rights and their limitations and the fact that courts have repeatedly said sure Governments can infringe on your rights as long as they come up with a good enough reason Which means the courts don't treat them as rights. They treat them as privileges As something the government bestows on you ignoring the fact that uh, according to declaration Are unalienable rights come not from government But from our creator Meanwhile out of Massachusetts we have this question of out of state Carrie permits Again in Hawaii we're talking about you need government permission to own a firearm That's an infringement on your rights who's saying I need I can need to go to the government and say please may I To exercise right that's not a right. That's a privilege. That's a problem Now many states have carry licenses in fact where it lived now in Tennessee they have Uh, uh, uh, permitless carry it's not true constitutional carry, but it's pretty close You don't need a permit to carry in public

28:54The the I still have a permit it it serves other purposes but Again, you're asking government for permission for in states like Hawaii and Massachusetts to exercise a so-called right They're not treating it as a right And in a previous court case the Supreme Court said listen if you are going to Not recognize out of state carry permits then you must issue out of state carry permits Otherwise you're depriving people that right to keep in their arms Now the second amendment foundation has sued Massachusetts back in August of last year Because well, let's just say they're dragging their feet in processing these out of state to carry permits Um, by the way this this is alongside the gun owners action league and several other non-residents who uh Uh have requested Out of state carry permits and have been waiting Forever to get them

29:56Now according to the chief United States district judge for the district of Massachusetts Uh, Denise Casper She said plaintiffs has sufficiently alleged that their LTC applications are effectively denied during such periods Massachusetts begrudgingly makes carry permits available for out of state residents But makes the process of acquiring and renewing them on an annual basis Unconstitutionally burdensome that's the from the director of the second amendment foundations uh legal operations Um, he says delay of multiple months for both new applications and renewals Which are required every year are commonplace and without grace any grace period for those folks with pending renewals Our members who are subject to these delays have their rights extinguished For extended periods of time year after year So they sued Well Of course attorneys from Massachusetts um, they tried to get the lawsuit thrown out um

30:56As you might have guessed from what I quoted from the judge uh They're tend to get thrown out has failed As the judge noted right the if you if you want an out of state permit and they are delayed Uh, your rights are effectively denied during such period that's a cause That is a grievance that needs to be redressed um, the fact that the side of state doesn't make a difference The fact that it's guns doesn't make a difference right your right to keeping bear arms is a right protected by the constitution I states the supreme law of the land Making people pay by either financially or by delaying For the right to exercise their rights It's unconstitutional It's a deprivation of rights under code technically You could say the mat the state of Massachusetts those running the the system for out of state licenses are committing federal crimes Because they are denying people their right protected by the constitution in the United States under color of law

31:59Well, we just can't we we we we can't do this quickly enough We just need to take our our time and and all this and I remember when I lived in New York and I had a carried permit I could not carry in Massachusetts Because Massachusetts didn't recognize by permit and at that time Massachusetts didn't even offer out of state carry permits. She I couldn't get one Um, which I found really interesting because uh, I actually went up to Vermont and I'd take a slightly longer route So that I wouldn't go through Massachusetts But I was going to I went to Vermont because Vermont said sure you're welcome with your guns. We don't care They didn't even issue permits. They were constitutional carry decades Before it became popular in in other states in the United States Now you're right to keep and bear arms doesn't mean you can violate a person's property rights That's why when I scroll up at a location that has that little symbol with the firearm and the red circle and slash I don't bring my firearm in if it's as long as it's private property public property. We got issues

32:59Private property. Do you have a right to control that? I may not do business with you I may decide that I don't that that my right to keep in bear arms my right to defend myself is more important Then whatever I would purchase or service. I would conduct business. I would conduct on your property That is my decision But again, keeping bear arms that the doesn't supersede private in fact. I had a situation a gentleman had come to my house He was he was coming here to ask to hunt on my property And he'd done this before and we were chitchatting on the front porch And I noticed he had a little bit a little darenger in his cover all pocket And we got talking about stuff and I said yeah, I noticed he is just oh sorry I would meant to leave that in the car I have no problem. I said I don't have a problem with you carrying As long as it remains in your pocket in fact the fact that I can see it makes you happier because now I know it's there And I make sure you keep it you take it out of the pocket. We're gonna have an issue And we both had a little bit of a chuckle about that because we both understood neither of us were threatening each other

34:02Neither of us are trying to harm each other But he recognized that my property rights included the ability to control whether or not who would be allowed to carry on my property I didn't have a problem with them carrying on my property, but if I did I could put a sign out on my on the end of my driveway with that you know firearm symbol I'd be a hypocrite But okay Right, but it's understanding that just because I were keeping bear arms doesn't mean I can carry it on someone else's private property without their permission But the means that the government cannot A deny me my right Delay my right require that I I even That as I get their permission Now I understand the concept of you know, well, you you may be a felon you may be legally unable to carry a firearm That is that that's called what you're doing is called prior restraint Right you're you're straining me because I might have a problem that is the violation of due process of law

35:05That's where all these federal lawsuits 1983 lawsuits come from it's the violation of due process of law The deprivation of rights under color of law. It is a violation of the second amendment Which is the the right that's being infringed upon um and and to me it's important understand you have a right to keep in bear arms. You don't have a right to carry on someone else's private property You do have a right to carry it in public And all these entities that are infringing on the right allegedly for safety Are depriving you over right protected by the Constitution of the United States Generally for some prior restraint or something they think you might possibly do And that's not the other they have remember in our legal system Then one making the accusation has the burden of proof If the government says you need our permission you have the burden of proof That we're not allowed to carry And the very fact you're asking permission they're asking permission means you probably don't have that burden of proof

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41:14Welcome back everybody americans you've rejoined the constitution today. We're talking about understanding our rights Because our understanding is crucial to defending and inserting our rights Thanks for one of the reasons why john jays said every member of the state A diligent need to read instead of the constitution was country teacher ising generation be free But it's reading is one thing studying is another thing because you studying is an attempt to understand Why is that important well i saw an interesting article Now recognize that according to the courts the 14th amendment your right to be at liberty without to not be denied liberty without too priceless law Includes the right to the raising of your children To controlling not only their health care but their educational upbringing Their children are yours to oversee Now schools have used their access to children And many cases to Well, let's just say trend cut parents out of the process We see this a lot with schools that are that are promoting transgendarism in kids and refusing to tell the parents hiding this information from the parents

42:21Well got my attention was an article this came from the daily signal That said there may be another tool To help parents protect their rights that most people are unaware of in fact i hadn't thought of it that way, but it kind of makes sense What is that tool? It's called the individuals with disabilities education act federal law passed 1975 Rename back to 1990 But a guaranteed children with disabilities access to free appropriate public education Uh, we've seen this right when you see uh children with disabilities to have accommodations made for them What's interesting is according to america first legal The law also gives parents extensive authority over evaluation educational services school records and individualized education programs So according to america first legal The IDEA Toolkit arms parents with an arsenal of tools designed to ensure that they

43:23Not the government remain in control of their children's education You see according to america first legal the the IDEA guarantees parental consent for evaluations and services participation in individual education program development access to records Notice of proposed changes and the ability to revoke consent for services See parents have the right to be part of the team that determines if their child has a disability in the first place That's the part that got my attention So when I think about the IDEA and I think about you know uh uh Disabled children I'm thinking you need disability But if the IDEA says none of the parents have the right to be involved in the question of a disability in the first place That gives parents a lot of tools doesn't it? You see and if the schools violate their rights According to this this document published by america first legal

44:23Parents can demand mediation from the state or local education agency They can request a due process hearing before the agency They have the right to appeal the local education agencies due process hearing to the state education agency They have a lot of tools before they even get to an actual court to bring a lawsuit If the state deprives them of these rights So while congress may have passed the IDEA To secure the rights of children with disabilities It secured a lot of rights for parents Now while my daughter is well beyond the age of primary or secondary education This understanding that it is the parent not the government that decides what's best for the child With with extra a barring extraordinary circumstances So the question is What will you do to protect the education the upbringing of your children? And do you have more tools than maybe you first thought

45:24Maybe if you're if you're concerned maybe reach out to america first legal there's no relationship right They're not sponsoring anything but I find it interesting I love finding these organizations that help people Protect their rights Maybe this is a situation that you might find helpful So Speaking of kids let's head out to california uh The california legislator amended a law that uh it involves with uh it's called the california digital age assurance act It's a digital ID And the idea was that uh The original bill which again government news since signed last year um required uh Operating systems collect real-time age data on the people using their their computers that they're running them For things like app stores they used to be involved websites as well I guess they dropped the website and some of the websites this but again

46:25The state of california says your operating windows single windows right they have to collect digital age information they have to have a digital ID In order to use things like app stores and and other tools But again, I don't like the government coming in and telling me what is age appropriate for my child The government doesn't know my no my child. I why are they in the middleist But there's another concern right so now the government's gonna decide What's age appropriate because well if they got an age verification law For things online well then they've got to limit that and of course They're sharing this age data With the app stores and developers so now not only that but um, you know My the the Apple app store or the the iPhone after or any of the apps are they Have to keep a record of the age of everybody using their products and are you really comfortable with

47:26Apple Google and the state of california Knowing such information because it's not simply oh we know they're age They have to verify their age they have to have some data something to prove their age Now what do we often use to you prove our age? Well, I know a lot of people use license drivers license And if I go to buy a bottle of wine at the store I have to show them my driver's license now listen There's not a human being on the planet that looks at me and says you know what Paul I think you're under 21 I mean I got gray here. I got a gray beard I look well past the age of drinking But I'm still required to provide my driver's license So what are they going to use for your digital age verification? Huh But Paul someone out there saying you know if you've got nothing to hide What do you worry about? I may have nothing to hide, but I have everything to protect

48:27See a dark web service recently advertises back uh at the end of august They're offering a 153 million scans of driver's licenses They have more than 10 million other identity cards and 3 million travel documents or international IDs And at least oh almost 600,000 medical cards I want to think what this right you go somewhere and they they they want a copy for driver's license Well, are they making a photo copy to keep a paper record or they're making a digital copy That may be hacked 153 million driver's licenses Now where did all of this hacked data where did all of us come from Well according to a security researcher It came from a company who um was hired to verify people's identities Nexus It was advertised on a Russian language cybercrime forum called exploit

49:31Uh a security researcher vayan ketch found that uh uh a search on Nexus return 11.5 million result pages Roughly 15 results per page In other words roughly 153 million license scans in this database And the number increased by nearly 400,000 within 24 hours So I want you to think what that You have the state of California says we want you to prove your age. Well, how are you going to verify that you're actually 18 or 21 or whatever it is. Well We have to prove prove who you are we have to have Identify verify your identity Are they using a company like Nexus? Which apparently has been hacked and it has their data now available to cyber criminals Think about it Your name Your address your date of birth Your height your weight color of your eyes clever your hair All this your driver's license summer all this information is now. Oh, and by the way your signature

50:37That they collected in order to again verify your identity Now has apparently been hacked and is available to any criminal with access to the dark web Anyone else concerned about this? And what's concerned that what California is asking is Making this data more more data available To these hackers Now I understand Caliwell. We just want to protect it. We want to protect the children Yeah, but you're not protecting the children. Are you See you're controlling the children And in doing it you're asking people to give up some of the more confidential information they they have Information we otherwise would not give away I Get mail-out I sure you know my paper I shred because I get you know junk mail And I don't want my name and address out there. So I shred it I don't hand over my ID simply because somebody asks for it There's got to be a good reason for it and I want them to keep it safe which makes me wonder

51:41How many business how many entities how many companies are using services like Nexus For identity verification That has now been hacked What about your rights And again, California, you know what it's not your job to protect the children It's your job to protect the rights the parents so that they can protect the children Now I agree there are parents that do things I would never let my child do absolutely true Doesn't mean I have a right to take their children away Whether it's to physically remove them Or to pass laws that regulate how they live their lives So when we understand our rights I don't have the right to tell others what to do But neither did they have the right to tell me what to do Now granted well, like I said when my daughter was young I had a lot of security on my network. It helped that I spent 30 years working 19 I spent 20 years working in data centers that I understood things like Nat and routers and proxies and all that

52:43So in content filters so I could protect my family that was my job If you don't have those skills You can hire somebody to do it There are plenty of people out there. I'm sure that would do it first small fee you could buy a device that does it You could hire a service that does it That's my responsibility And when government Says we're going to require this and we're in doing so unintentionally granted it's unattended The consequences that your identity is now exposed on the dark web for someone to steal Uh, I think there's a problem there Houston or I guess Sacramento We have a problem Just another reason why I'll never move to California that at least I can't and let me never say never I see no good reason to move to California. I see no reason that's good enough To go to say I'm going to give up my rights to become a member of that communist state or at least a citizen of that communist state

53:46Now I hope you have a better understanding a little bit more of your rights Hopefully, I've actually generated some questions now that's if you think about it You know, what do I said that maybe you don't understand or or maybe you'd like more clarification or maybe you'd like it You have a specific incident you'd like me to Answer well, it's really simple. You can there are two ways you can ask a question once you go to Constitution Study.com slash questions The other is to simply email me at questions at Constitution Study.com Both ways you get a message to me and you can ask your question Uh, I do ask for your name and email address because well, I'm going to email your response It's kind of hard, but I don't have an email address Now if you'd like me to answer the question here on the radio On the website there's a button you check that says please answer on America out loud talk radio If you email me just mention that in the email I'll be more than happy to answer your question not only via email But here on the radio program because I bet you if you're asking a question There are other people that have the same or similar questions that be beneficial to others. I see

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