Helt Texas: The pandemic con

0:00Music Hard-hitting medical truth, cutting through conflict and confusion to the understanding you're searching for. Join Dr. Peter McCullough, world-renowned medical expert and practicing physician for this edition of the McCullough Report. Your life may depend on it. Welcome to Texas First, I'm J. Dawson. In Norway, they've got a word for something completely wild, untamed, and gloriously out of control. Held Texas. It's their slang for pure unfiltered chaos. If that doesn't scream Texas spirit, nothing does. Well, what if the pandemic wasn't held Texas at all? But the exact opposite. A suffocating rule-enforced machine designed to crush disobedience. Everything you were told, a calculated lie designed to strip way your freedoms, destroy livelihoods, and funnel trillions to the elite

1:00while silencing anyone who dared question it. That's not speculation. That's what happened. Lockdowns crushed small businesses and families, mandates coerced millions into experimental shots. The scent was crushed with labels, racist, dangerous, killer. Meanwhile, an estimated $40 trillion in global wealth was quietly transferred from everyday people to big pharma, tech overlords, wall street, and government insiders who cast in on the chaos. Today, we tear down the lies and set the record straight. My guest today is Dr. Peter McCullough, the most courageous and credentialed voice to challenge the COVID narrative head-on, and the kind of bold, principled text and we're proud to call one of our own. A board-certified internist and cardiologist who put down roots here, president of the McCullough Foundation, chief scientific officer at the wellness company, and co-author of best sellers like the courage to face COVID-19 and vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality. When silencer compliance was easy-path,

2:01Dr. McCullough risked everything, career, reputation, certifications, to speak the data, fight for patients, and defend the freedom's Texans' whole deer. Dr. McCullough stood for truth in the world-demanded silence. Today, we honor that health Texas spirit and we're about to hear it straight from one of our best, was doing more harm than good. Well, you know, vaccination is always a bad idea in the setting of a pandemic. Always, in fact, a principle of virology and immunology and vaccinology is don't vaccinate into a widely prevalent pandemic. When we do this, some individuals will be vaccinated, some won't. The virus, as it exists, is never a single strain, but it's actually a population of different strains, because viruses rapidly replicate they make little mistakes, and they form little unique strains. So at any given time, as somebody had the infection, it was probably 800 or so unique, different variants in the population of viruses they had. In the setting of a vaccine, only thing that can happen is the virus

3:01will outsmart the vaccine every time and become resistant. I've been looking forward to doing this for quite a while. You, I believe, was a word bravest voice to speak out in COVID. You had everything to lose, very little to gain. And I just can't thank you enough for the honesty. And I also want to say, too, is I've been interviewing people for 30 years. I've interviewed thousands of people. Anytime I reach out to high-profile people, they always want to know what the questions are, they want to know our background, what they want to know what the show is, because they don't want to get, they don't want to get, they don't want to get trapped, they don't want to get ambushed. You didn't ask me any of that stuff. And to me, that was such a great way of showing that you have nothing to hide. You're willing to talk to anyone about this, for anyone, and they're like, Dr. Fauci would never come on this show. You know, because he's not necessarily in friendly territory. He doesn't know what questions he's going to be asked. And to me, I felt like that just speaks volumes to the man you are.

4:03Well, thank you. But can I disagree with your opening statement? Please. Podcasts are good for disagreement. This is where I disagree. You said I had little to gain. Well, here we were in 2000. A virus was spreading across the world. No one really knew what was going on early. Now we learned, you know, it came out of a Chinese bio-security lab. It did cause a severe syndrome in some very frail, elderly people. And sadly, it did take some lives. And the idea as a doctor to actually be able to help in the setting of a global crisis, to actually make a contribution, to show people a fundamental framework by which they can treat themselves at home, and then avoid too bad outcomes hospitalization and death. That was the opportunity of a lifetime. That was an academic opportunity of the lifetime. And I was stunned that major medical centers were not going for that opportunity.

5:06It really was, you think Harvard would want to have their name all over the macabre protocol. The very first comprehensive multi-drug treatment protocol that's evidence-backed and published in a very high level peer-reviewed journal, you think Harvard would want their name all over it, or Mayo Clinic, or any other major organization. I was stunned with the opportunity, the academic opportunity, and no one was going for it. So in many ways, I did have a lot to go for because I was helping people all over the world. I'm most definitely. And there's a reason why this topic is just so near and dear to my heart. I lost a very close family member to COVID. Oh, boy. Oh, they've been dying. I lost them to the propaganda. They're double-vax, triple-mast. And she and I were best friends for all these years. And that we barely talking about. We've actually started talking in just recently, but for a good five years, we just stopped talking.

6:06Because of all the propaganda that got thrown on the head, I remember him calling me at one point, shaming me for not getting the vacs, because this thing was going to spread. It was going to mutate and start killing children. And basically, I'm a child killer if I don't get the vacs. If I don't get this experimental vaccine, that doesn't seem from what I was seeing was doing more harm than good. Well, you know, vaccination is always a bad idea in the setting of a pandemic. Always. In fact, a principle of virology and immunology and vaccinology is don't vaccinate into a widely prevalent pandemic. When we do this, some individuals will be vaccinated, some won't. The virus, as it exists, is never a single strain, but it's actually a population of different strains. Because viruses rapidly replicate. They make little mistakes and they form little unique strains. So at any given time, as somebody had the infection, there was probably 800 or so unique different varions

7:07in the population of viruses they had. In the setting of a vaccine, that's the only thing that can happen is the virus will outsmart the vaccine every time and become resistant. So it was a colossal mistake to say the premier approach to handle this will be vaccination. It was flawed from the beginning. And I published an op-ed in the hill. And that's widely read by the House, the Senate, the White House, and myself, I was at Baylor at the time. Scott Ellis was at Stanford. We were the two doctors, eminent doctors, you know, requested by the Hill editorial staff to write op-eds each month. And by the time we got to August of 2020, now this is four months before the vaccines come out. I published an op-ed and the title of it was the great gamble of the COVID-19 vaccine development program. Believe it or not, you are talking to the only public figure in the world

8:09who questioned the vaccines in writing big time before they came out. Even the other, quote, great skeptics of the program or critics of the program now, they didn't say a word publicly in 2020. So my observation was, even the greatest skeptics out there, they were seduced. They were seduced by the coming of a savior and the savior being a vaccine. So the vaccine, I remember watching an interview with RFK where he was saying that the vaccine existed before COVID. That was a military campaign. Can you expand on that? You know, probably the best reference is called COVID-19 and the Global Predators. We either pray by Dr. Peter Bregan and I was honored to write the introduction for that. And in that book, Bregan starts out, it's probably around 2002 to 2004,

9:10where there was a series of what's called pandemic planning events, pandemic planning events. And there are 36 of them total. Now, their meetings, various maneuvers within government agencies worldwide, 24 of them produced written documents. And six of them, you can just watch on video. So for sure, the COVID-19 pandemic was planned ahead of time. And for sure, the vaccines, as a response to the pandemic, were pre-prepared. Now, in our book, if you can hold it up, the courage of COVID-19, and then the second one is Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology, and Reality. We point out that it's still on the website today. If people want to do their research, this is so much fun. You can go to DARPA, which is a biomedical research unit of the military. It's US government website.

10:11Everything is in the open. It's called DARPA, announced as a program, a development program. And it's called the ADEPT-P3 program. And in that, the aspiration of that program is they will end pandemics in 60 days with messenger RNA vaccines. Messenger RNA vaccines. So it's, it's, it's, it's, and broadly announced to the world in 2012 that the US is going to do this. Eight years earlier. But it's, it's stunning. And in Bregan's book, he starts to outline the cadence of this. And we do it in our book vaccines as well. There's the BioShield Act in, in 2003, kind of getting ready for this biological threat, development countermeasure, development that we get into. And then the 2004 prep act. Just, HHS and Congress, right? They said, there will be a pandemic, for sure. Yeah.

11:12And it'll be a pandemic. And it's going to be like a war. And when a pandemic occurs, the government is going to step into action and create countermeasures or things to protect the population. And all of those will be immune from liability. That's the prep act. Yeah. That's terrifying. That's terrifying. And I also, I find it hysterical that we found out within the last week about this scales, the one telling us all how to be healthy was apparently slipping his wife, Penassoon, because he caught a nice 10 Stirri from a Russian hooker. Like, these are the people that are given this health advice. And I remember Peter hotel is going on on Rogan. And, you know, in the obvious, here was this overweight man who's teeth look like they're falling out. Who's trying to tell us how to be healthy. It was just absolutely absurd to me that to Dr. Fauci is, you know, this isn't his first rodeo. I mean, I mean, we go back to the AIDS epidemic. I don't know how much you know about the AIDS epidemic.

12:13And if you do, I would really love to hear everything you know about Fauci's role in the AIDS epidemic because from my understanding is, is he basically caused to be a lot worse than what? Is the cure was killing way more people than the disease? You know, I take a different view on this and I know a lot of that is read from Robert F. Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci. I'm the most mentioned doctor in the book, besides, I've averaged it. And I did look over it and try to help Kennedy, but he was a rushed work. Interesting. But no, I was, you know, medical resident. I was in practice during the AIDS outbreak. I, Fauci did not have command or control over AIDS at all. We made our own decisions. We used Zidovinean originally. Then we got into a combination of drugs and we learned, you know, the name of the illness changed. So Fauci was head of the National Immunology ology Infectious Disease Branch, but he wasn't calling the shots on AIDS. The major academic medical centers.

13:14I was at Earsfield, Washington at this time. We were a leader. There were other leaders out there. But what we saw with Anthony Fauci later on was the emergence. When he became the senior White House coronavirus advisor, he took on a whole new countenance. And one of the interviews, he literally says, the hubris here is that he represents science. So if you disagree with him, you're your anti-science. Peter Hotez also says that. If you disagree with him, you're anti-science. Well, let me tell you, I'm a scientist. I'm more published than Peter Hotez. Okay, I have more original important contributions than Fauci does. So I am telling you, as the senior doctor in the group, that science is a process. Nobody is anti-science or a pro-science. It's a process we use in hypothesis testing. Now, when you dig deeper in inner book, our book vaccines, we use the, in the title,

14:17mythology, ideology, and reality. What we've learned is that an ideology has formed around vaccines. That vaccines are uniformly good. Those who promote vaccines are virtuous. Those who doubt or skeptical about vaccines are vaccine hesitant. World Health Organization, Peter Hotez, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, they would all say that vaccine hesitancy is a threat to global health. So there's a presupposition that vaccines are always good and acceptance of is good and skepticism is bad. So it's already set up. Can you imagine if we already set that up for the next drug to be approved? It's gonna be good. And if you're skeptical, you're spreading incorrect information. So let's just examine a few more things. So Bill Gates, who really is an anti-trust litigation

15:19over a net scape and Microsoft, essentially, he's shown to be somebody who's willing to violate business law, big time. So he gets out of that business and he forms the Gates Foundation and becomes a philanthropic capitalist. And he's on tape, same listen, the biggest return I can make on my money is with vaccines. And so he becomes a wild enthusiast for vaccines, states aspirations of global vaccination, forms the Gates Foundation with the World Economic Forum. They formed CEPI in 2017, the Coalition for Abidemic Preparedness and Innovation, which states there will be a series of global pandemics in each time vaccines will be the solution. And I'll never forget and send my first book, Curse to Face COVID-19, it is very early April of 2020. And somehow Bill Gates is being interviewed on TV. Why would he be interviewed? He's not a doctor, he doesn't have any

16:19medical responsibility for anything. Does it call his dropout? But his... I think it's called his dropout, so I'm gonna call his dropout myself, but... Well, his interview... Nobody wants me to run in the show. In these states, he goes, this COVID-19 pandemic will not end until every person on the planet takes the vaccine. Well, what's the backdrop for that? Gates in 2017 with Bloomberg School of Public Health holds a seminar. It's called the Spars Pandemic. And they publish a meeting proceedings, they publish two peer review papers. In 2017, Gates says there will be a COVID-19 pandemic. There will be a coronavirus pandemic. He puts it in writing. He says there'll be great confusion by treatment. And we're gonna basically organize social media, major media, the White House, and we're gonna railroad vaccines on the country. He says that in 2017, and then in 2019, it's wide open.

17:212019, November 2019, Gates Foundation again, Bloomberg School of Public Health, Johns Hopkins, they hold event 201. And there, we have who's going to be our next Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haynes, all the other players are there. And they said, oh, for sure. It's a coronavirus pandemic. For sure, in fact, they even had a little work group. Avril Haynes' work group with George Gao is the Chinese CDC Director, who flew over for it, said that they were gonna work to cover up the laboratory origins of COVID-19. It's right there. It's right there in event 201. So you can't make this up. Hotaz, the third person you mentioned, now he is a pediatrician, he's an MD PhD at Baylor in Houston. And over the course of the pandemic, he's been hailed as a hero. He's received tens of millions of dollars of monetary prizes for his heroism. Now, when he was going on CNN, he was largely advising people to wait and lock down

18:23and wait for a vaccine. He never mentioned another approach. Now, I was a frequent contributor and still am for Fox and other stations. I was coming down Fox and they'd present Hotaz or Fauci. And I'd say, you know, there's a different approach. These vaccines look like they're not gonna work and they clearly once they rolled out, they weren't working. People need early treatment. They need strategies to reduce the intensity and severity of the infection and get through it. In the end, 90% of us all got vaccine or all got the illness. 90% of us got SARS-CoV-2. That's a great application by the way for AI. So I asked AI, what percent of the world's population got SARS-CoV-2? And they searched every database. The county database is you name it and the answer is about 90%. Good estimate. Now, 81% of Americans took one or more shots. Now, 19% didn't, I didn't take it. I did not. Okay, so you and I are in the 19%. We don't have to. I call this pure blood. Yeah, so we didn't take it. Now, it turns out only 70% took two shots.

19:24Listen, people after the first shot realized this was toxic. We had a big, big CDC self-reported V-safe, self-reported safety network on the cell phone. And people, you know, there was 10 million people who signed up to basically be research selfish for the CDC. After the first shot, the rate of people getting sick, the rate of people getting sick and having to go to the ER clinic or be hospitalized was 7.7%. So people knew these shots early on where we're non-toxic. But Hotaz goes on and he's an interesting case study. And you mentioned he goes on Joe Rogan. He doesn't present himself well. He's just disheveled. He's in some type of clutter background in his basement half the time. But sadly, he has a daughter, Rachel. And she undoubtedly is, you know, a heavily vaccinated child.

20:25Because he's a vaccine developer, right? So for him, all vaccines are good. The more vaccines, the better. And she develops autism. Yeah, I know, but less. So he publishes a book. And this is classic psychological, this is a coping mechanism where the title of his book is, the MMR vaccine did not cause Rachel's autism. Now, when someone does that, it means they actually truly just the opposite, right? So that's psychological projection. And the fact that he would do that, that shows the oblivion that people are walking around with. And so this keeps going and going. Fauci gets so deep into this. And it's determined that he is funding the main developers, which are Dr. Ralph Barrick at UNC Chapel Hill, Peter Desik at the Gohoth Alliance, and Dr. Schingling Lee, the Bat Lady of Wuhan, that they're part of the creation of SARS-CoV-2.

21:26They clearly were involved in the cover-up, all the emails show this. And then Fauci greatly misleads pandemic response. He suppresses early treatment, which cost lives. And then he promoted the vaccines, which cost lives in terms of side effects. So Fauci, before the end of Biden's term, and this is how it works, he went to a two-biden and requested clemency, he requested a pardon and gets a preemptive 10-year pardon going all the way back to 2014, for a doctor. This is very notable. He must have known that he committed grievous crimes, very huge crimes. People vest me, what are the crimes Fauci committed? With his co-conspirators, I would allege that he committed fraud. It was fraudulent concealment of the origins of SARS-CoV-2.

22:28And then he also committed mass negligent homicide by suppressing all forms of early treatment, including the McCulloch protocol, which was widely used protocol in the world, and promoting the unsafe vaccines. I mean, basically, the only reason you're doing that is to develop a bio-level. Am I correct on that? Gain of function research, the main purpose of it is largely to develop biological threats, in my opinion. Now, the claimed use of it would be, well, nature could throw us a curveball. Nature, a very, very aggressive organism, could arise of nature. And if we do research on this, we can get ahead of nature. And I think that's a flawed platform, because outside of a Spanish flu, it's the only situation in the Spanish flu had so many unique features to it. I'm not sure the Spanish flu was completely natural. That's my understanding, too. Well, because, because it was post-World War I,

23:32many young people were living in army barracks. They were right on top of each other. People weren't in their natural egrarian types of economies at the time, and their roles in those economies. We were in this post-World War II, that there was a nutritional strain on the population. I remember people don't die of influenza. They die of a secondary staphococcal pneumonia. We cover that in my book on vaccines, where the depictions of the young men dying of Spanish flu is they become hypoxic, so they were blue, and then there would be copious pus flowing out of the mouth. And that was actually staphococcal, that's not viral. So as we sit here today, if you ask me, Dr. McCulloch, could there be another Spanish flu coming out of nature? No. Even if something did come, we're well equipped to handle it. What all the experts believe, MJ, is that the next pandemic will come again from a biolab.

24:33They want to experiment with these diseases in order to protect us from these diseases, but they're giving us to these diseases. Well, there's a term. There's a term. It's called pathogens of pandemic potential that are dual purpose. There's actually legislation written on this. So there are pathogens, there are bugs, you know, so that'd be a virus, a bacteria, a fungi. That are capable of getting the whole world sick, but they serve two purposes. To get the world sick, and then to be able to create a countermeasure, largely a vaccine or a therapeutic. And so that's the proposal for this research, which is richly funded, and by the way, it's richly funded by non-governmental agencies, Gates Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, welcome trust, the Chinese Communist Party. So China actually had such a lab in a richly California. They just had found one in Las Vegas, for instance. So, you know, pulling government funding

25:35for gain-of-function research, that's going to do nothing. And there are biolabs, a McCullough Foundation that culture recently published in a sub-stack, a compilation, there's 3,600 of these lethal biolabs in the world, about a dozen in the United States. So closest one to us is in Galveston, Texas. That's about six hours away. You get a big viral cloud coming out of Galveston, Texas, watch out. So, I guess we didn't learn a lesson, and so no biolabs have been shut down. I mean, I don't buy the idea that this was disignorance that, hey, oh, we're trying to get ahead of the vaccine, oops. To me, it seems pretty obvious that we're developing a bioweapon, but what I don't understand is, why would we be developing a bioweapon in the country that is our chief adversary right now in China? Because presumably, if we're ever going to use a bioweapon, that's who we'd be using it against. Am I missing something here? I think it's much more of strategy.

26:35So think about this, think about the analogy of developing a novel nuclear weapon. If you developed a novel nuclear weapon and you developed a nuclear defense system and you held both products, whoever you were, if you were a private company, if you're a non-governmental organization, or if you're a government, you hold power. So you hold the pathogen and you hold the vaccine. That was the aspiration of Peter Desik, who is now, he no longer leads to eco-health alliance. Desik, under oath in Congress, testify, he's got dozens more of these in the Wuhan lab. He doesn't know how many are left there. So the goal was actually to have negotiating power. So can you imagine you're in confidential negotiations with China, or Russia, or Ukraine, or the list goes on and on? It says, you know, we want a little more favorable tariff situation. But we want to let you know that we don't need

27:38a nuclear weapon. We don't need guns or ammo. We have something far more powerful that we can use. Just want to let you know that, Mr. President. Can you imagine the types of negotiations? All you need to have is COVID-20 locked and loaded. Let's say it's a little bit more lethal and a little bit more infectious. And can you imagine a businessman, an agent of whatever adversarial country just spilling a bottle on a New York subway, were toast. So the point is, it's about power. So all this, the race of bio-labs is about power. You know, it's a place where there's a lot of bio-labs. You create. I didn't know that, yes. And that was a conspiracy theory a couple of years ago. And you were a pro-Putin puppet if you said that out loud. So that's been confirmed. And how much do you believe that the Ukraine bio-labs are playing into the Russian war right now? You know, I don't know. I, you know, on world events right now,

28:40because we just don't have, I think, trustable reporting, you know, for me to make any commentary on the Russian Ukraine war, I'd have to go there. No. You know what I mean? I really would have to go there, because the numbers that are reported in terms of casualties, we don't have the visual footage to support it. And any type of reporting, whether it comes from the border crisis or the Middle East or in Iran, you see numbers now that just begin to just run up. The most recent one is in Iran. Well, is it 2,000 protesters killed? Is it 2,000? Is it 200,000? Is it 2,000? I mean, it just, there's no end to these numbers. And without any press, without any confirmation. So what I've always said is listening. I'm happy to comment on geopolitics. But personally, personally, if I was a leader of any nation, I would go to the front line. Personally, I would go.

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33:46you lost about 100 years. Oh, my lord. I mean, those are theoretical. Remember quarantine comes from a quantico. And I believe it stands for 45 days. But that was born in reasonableness, like yellow fever. So, if a boat had a bunch of men with yellow fever, a ship comes into New Orleans, they'd say, listen, you got to wait out there 45 days and this yellow fever's got to make its run, and then you can come to port. So, quarantine is reasonable, and it actually largely helps bring smallpox under control and even measles outbreaks under control. But for the sick, so lockdowns or quarantine only apply to the sick, not to healthy. See, people, it got inverted that everybody has to shelter in place. Remember Dallas County, our county executive Clay Jenkins in March of 2020, we chronicled it in my book, Courage to Face COVID-19, he puts out a command that says,

34:51we must shelter in place. But as if bombs are going off outside would have you and we have an opening scene in our book, you think this is really entertaining. Remember some states were a lot worse than Texas, one of them California. So, this is very frustrated guy, he kinda looks like you, he's in great shape, and he's frustrated with these lockdowns and masks. So, he gets on his paddle board with his golden retriever and he just paddles way out into San Francisco Bay, like far away from everybody and he finally takes down his mask to get just a little bit of fresh air. And immediately, the Coast Guard speeds out and arrests this guy for violating. So, this shows you that through the pandemic, people lost their minds. Quarantine is fine. Quarantine is fine. Listen, I was at a major medical center here in Dallas, if someone got sick with COVID and I supervised a lot of people there. So, let's go home. At first we didn't know if it was two weeks

35:51or 10 days or five days, but go home until you don't have a fever anymore would have your symptoms are not controllable and come back. We would give the same advice if it was influenza or anything else. So, quarantine is fine, but locking down healthy people, we've never seen that in your right. It caused harm. I think the biggest harm is in Dallas and I bet in Colin County was the same. They shut down public schools for a year. I mean, isn't that a stunning, and you know, the parochial schools didn't shut down. And there were no major outbreaks among teachers, it was no bonafide serious cases from student to teacher. All of it was unnecessary. Can you imagine losing a year of education and some of the kids in Dallas are underprivileged, South Dallas, and you know, they need that education and to try to get it on Zoom, I don't buy it. At the time, I remember just driving the work because I was one of the few that could still, I was still allowed to go to work

36:51and we had about maybe, I would go on 6.35 every day to work and we had maybe 20% of the traffic and there would be about five wrecks on the way there because in the one week that people stopped driving, everyone forgot how to drive. And it was absolutely wild how much I took over. I saw something with you recently where you're talking about the adjusted numbers of how many people died because we're told 10 millions, tens of millions, I'm guessing we're in the trillions now. Well, how many Americans actually died from COVID? Yeah, I've testified in Congress on this and there are data to the point to and put this in sub-stack. Again, wonderful activity for artificial intelligence because artificial intelligence can go to every database, including corners databases where deaths were examined and deduticated, our U.S. policy for infectious diseases by the way, this is HHS and the CDC, is if you test positive for an infectious disease

37:52and then you die at any time later on, you actually died attributed to the infectious disease. Even if you got it six months earlier. Even if six months earlier or the death is coming and that's true for influenza, this has been going on for a long time. So if you test positive for influenza and later on that year, you die of a hip fracture, it's considered influenza does. This has been going on forever. So it inflates infectious disease deaths, okay. The CDC does that because their view is if we are conservative and make it look like a more severe public health problem, people will take more vaccines. So it's set up that way. So influenza set up that way, bird flu is reported that way. So it goes into COVID. So test positive at any time and death at any time, that's a COVID death. And because I was wondering what was going on early on because I did have a patient of mine who died in 2020. And it took me about six weeks to adjudicate the case,

38:54complete the death certificate, finalize it with the state, six weeks. Well, I turn on the news every night and you see that little counter in the upper right hand corner, number of COVID deaths, click, click, click. I said, wait a minute, it takes six weeks to ascertain a death. How are they doing it minute by minute? They were just doing test positive at any time and then death at any time. So people didn't necessarily die of COVID. So the official numbers right now are about 1.2 million Americans, test positive at any time, died at any time. Now this is what we know about the deaths. About 40% of the deaths occurred at people who were beyond their actuarial lifespan. So it actually had a lifespan for a man at that time, was like 79, a woman, 80 or 81. So they were advanced age people who were at the end of life, 40%. Huge fraction in nursing homes. And then another large fraction of people really sick. So patients on dialysis, advanced cancer, obesity, diabetes.

40:00When we look at the National Center for Health Statistics data and they stop keeping track of this in 2023, if this ever tells you anything. But as of 2023 of the COVID deaths that the government was counting, half had no pneumonia on the chart. No mention of pneumonia on the chart at all. So I can tell you that 1.2 million easily cut it in half to 600,000. Now when you do artificial intelligence or look at the peer reviewed literature and I've published the largest autopsy study kind of in the pandemic era, we would come down to, if we carefully adjudicated the cases, we would come down to conservatively 10% of that 1.2 million truly died of COVID, 10%, 120,000. There's an Italian study saying 3%. But I would go with this. If you're asking me if I'm under oath on the MJ Dawson, you know, a Senate testimony, I would say under oath 120,000 Americans died of COVID.

41:02Now my estimates are if they would have received early treatment, we call it protocol, starting with fresh air and nasal space and gargles and the oral drugs and IV drugs and everything we do, a home oxygen, we could have saved 85% of them. So truly, truly the number of people who died of COVID that we just couldn't save if we had done everything is probably about 35,000. Now a flu season could be 50 to 75,000. So the mortality was grossly overstated, grossly overstated, and I think even to this day, I mean, I've testified five times in the Senate, they'll say Dr. McCullough COVID was a bad illness. I've been in court cases where the doctor opposing me would say, listen, I took care of these people, they were dying right in front of me. And I asked the question, did you ever treat them at home? Of course, when people get sick enough in the hospital, they look really sick. What about treating them at home? There's two bad outcomes, hospitalization and death.

42:05If you got the illness and you weren't hospitalized, it didn't die, you're through it. Isn't it stunning? We went through the first Trump administration. So we had Trump, we had the entire HHS administration, not one official in Washington could state the problem. Not one, the problem was there's a virus, people are getting sick and there's two bad outcomes, hospitalization and death. The only way to stop both outcomes is to do something before the hospitalization. No one could articulate that. There was no chief medical officer at any medical school in the United States who could articulate the problem and the goal of a solution. I did, that was the McCullough protocol. That's the most widely used, I published it in August of 2020 in the American Journal of Medicine. It was widely adopted by the Association of American Physician and Surgeons. We published the best data we could, actually here from Colin County, that it was effective in using multiple drugs and combination.

43:08It was flexible, we adapted it over time as more data came in. But you're talking to the only public figure in the world who could articulate the problem and the goal of a solution. I did, that was the McCullough protocol. That's the most widely used, I published it in August of 2020 in the American Journal of Medicine. It was widely adopted by the Association of American Physician and Surgeons. We published the best data we could, actually here from Colin County, that it was effective in using multiple drugs and combination. It was flexible, we adapted it over time as more data came in. But you're talking to the only public figure in the world who could articulate the problem and a solution, the solution had to be before the hospitalization. And here we had Scott Atlas advising the president. Scott, I know, I read his book. Not one time did Scott say he ever discussed treatment with Trump.

44:08Now, in Washington, we have Marty McGree, who's heading the FDA, who is my group of Fox. Never once did he mention that we should treat COVID before the hospitalization. Jayabara Chara, leading NIH and CDC right now. Not once did he ever mention it. We have Robert F. Kennedy now in charge of HHS. Since he's been in office, there's still a COVID cases. Not once has he ever mentioned early treatment. So we had Biden, he never mentioned it. Fauci never mentioned it. Now we have Trump again. No mention. This is a stunning, this is a stunning observation. Really, none of our leaders can recognize early treatment as a strategy. You never saw a billboard here in Dallas. Say and listen, you know, get an early treatment protocol. This was such a gap that in 2022, I worked with other business leaders and we formed a wireless company. Well, this company is now the brightest, most rapidly growing healthcare company, emerging from the pandemic.

45:09And the very first thing we did is we took them a color protocol, we made it into a treatment kit. And we said, you know what? Never again, are we going to get burned? And I've had a meeting with HHS in Kennedy. And we talked about pandemic response. I said, listen, if you guys aren't going to do anything, we are. Yeah. And the next, the next pandemic, you're not going to be dialing up the government and say, what do I do? People are going to come to the wireless company. We have our own pharmacies. We have our manufacturing. We can, we can spool up easily. We can scale up to handle a pandemic. The wellness company is pandemic response. Not the government. I completely agree with that. Anytime you let the government in charge of anything, it's always worse. Well, we learned it during COVID. So let's talk about the local protocol. So if we were to do it all over again as 2020, this thing has in knowing everything you even know now, what would you do? How would you have handled this in a way that would have absolutely minimized desk without having to lock people down without having to force people into some kind of experimental, you know, jab and so forth? But it would start with what I did as a doctor.

46:10Think about this. You know, I have patients with heart failure, kidney failure. They're sick. They're elderly. They've got lots of problems. They called me and they said, Dr. McCullough, I've got a fever. I'm sick with COVID. I got a test and I went to urgent care of the ER and they told me there's no treatment. I called my doctor and they said, sorry, the government says, wait to your sick enough to come in the hospital. I'm scared. I don't want to go in the hospital. What reasonable doctor would turn them down? Isn't it stunning that all the faculties of all the big medical centers are turning their patients down? All the community doctors turn their patients down. They said, listen, sorry. I said, no way. I said, we can do something. We could do something. So we started with the basics. Open the windows. It was a spring, wonderful spring here in Texas. Get fresh air, reduce the viral burden in the house.

47:13The worst cases were in these vertical cities. Old people living in these four to eight story buildings in Milan or these 20 story buildings in Wuhan. Wuhan's actually a big city, New York, all these condominiums where you can't even get in your fresh air. So I said, listen, get fresh air, get outside. There's a study from Singapore showing you can't even transmit it outside. It's impossible because the wind blows of irisol over you can't transmit it. So outside, I tell people front porch or back porch, you tell me which one you want to be at. Be your outside. Second thing, nasal sprays and gargles, very important. The virus is in the nose for about seven days just percolated. It needs a stable actually dry nose for it to percolate. Then when it overwhelms the system, that's when you get a runny nose and congestion, fever, headache, and then the virus goes into the lungs. So the virus is up in the nose. And very early on, there was a very important paper by Chaudhary and colleagues, randomized, prospective, double blind,

48:16placebo control trial. I mean, you couldn't do any better, hundreds of patients. And just using a very dilute iodine solution. And nowadays, we put iodine in some salt and water and spread up the nose, two to four squirts, sniff it back, blow it out, gargle with it or use another gargle, all the gargles work. And twice a day clearly prevents COVID, clearly. But when you're sick with COVID, it markedly reduces the intensity and severity of symptoms. There was a paper by a bound fourth and colleague showing you prevented COVID. It had like, in that clinical trial, again, randomized trial, 70% reduction in getting COVID. The Chaudhary trial is a cure treatment trial. There was even a trial of using it in sick hospitalized patients because the virus is still brewing. If you can cut down the amount of virus, you're going to have less going your lungs. It should make sense, right? The hospitals never offered nasal sprays or gargles. They just let people get sicker and sicker in the hospital. My brother was hospitalized with COVID. They didn't offer him anything.

49:16They just let him get really, really sick. And so, my color product I'll start with fresh air and nasal sprays and gargles. There was value to some over-the-counter products. Every study supported zinc as an anti-viral vitamin C. Vitamin D had great data, incredible data. There was seven randomized trial showing as prevented severe COVID. There was a study showing the vitamin D level was correlated with the outcomes of COVID. So, we pushed vitamin D and over-the-counter product called Cercitin that had positive data. Then there was a huge University of Virginia study using an over-the-counter anti-histamine anacid called Fumodidine. Fumodidine, it comes as peps at AC, comes in 20 milligrams over the counter and get it in any pharmacy. But the study used 80 milligrams. And it didn't stop the virus really. It just stopping the virus from overwhelming the immune system. See, the problem with COVID wasn't the virus so much. It was activating the immune system

50:16then later on, acting in a clotting system called cytokine storm. So, you know, a lot could be done just with over-the-counter products. Now, everything I mentioned is still, I haven't hit any of the controversial buzzwords, right? Shouldn't be controversial. Do you know that the Federal Trade Commission immediately attacked one of the big manufacturers of vitamin D? Sudam, Eric Nipute. Do you know they immediately attacked one of the leading nasal spray manufacturers? Sudam, so they're violating FTC policy. This is absolutely... It's discursible. It's stunning. Mayo Clinic put all kinds of doubt on their website about vitamin D. Well, we're not really sure this and that. Don't trust it. Why would they cast doubt? Then we get into hydroxychloroquine. It was the first antiviral. Modestly effective over 300 studies. Trump was kind of on the right track. You know, Fauci initially was on the right track. Fauci, they asked Fauci in a march.

51:18Press release. Would you use hydroxychloroquine? Fauci goes, yeah, if patient was right in front of me, I'd use it if the patient was in a protocol. That was fine. We use hydroxychloroquine in protocol. I got COVID early. I was in an FDA-proofed protocol. I took hydroxychloroquine, very safe drug. That was fine. But then when we had data emerge on Ivermectin, that because Ivermectin, remember hydroxychloroquine is an anti-parasitic, an anti-inflammatory drug for rune tyrophytus. Ivermectin is anti-parasitic. And wow, does it have anti-viral effects? I'm really glad you brought up Ivermectin. I had a person on the show recently who's running for judge for calling county, which would basically, if we have another pandemic, he's going to be in charge of lockdowns. And he referred to Ivermectin as horse-dormer. Oh, no. Yes. So the guy who wants to be in charge of calling counties, lockdowns and how we're going to respond to this, still thinks that Ivermectin is horse-dormer.

52:19What is Ivermectin? And why was the government so intent on painting it so negative and not letting people know that this was a valid way to fight the disease? Well, as I mentioned, the government tried to take out vitamin D. They tried to take out nasal sprays and gargles. They initially gave an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine, which it didn't need because it was already on the market. The EUA is only for products not yet on the market. And then the FDA came out and said, don't use hydroxychloroquine. And hydroxychloroquine was slow to work and it was partially effective. A boy Ivermectin, wow. And I used a ton of it. There are dozens of randomized trials. It clearly shortened the duration of illness, reduced symptoms. Ivermectin is a human anti-microbial agent used for parasitic infections. I've used it for scabies and other places around the world. They use it for rib blindness. It's dry from the soil in Japan,

53:22it's actually from the bacteria, produces it. So it's very safe and very inexpensive. And what happened with Ivermectin is that our experience was so positive. With the first year we used large adroxychloroquine, but once we really saw the effects of Ivermectin, people promptly getting better. The color protocol actually shifted to Ivermectin in December of 2020, we published a second paper and reviews in cardiovascular medicine. At 56 authors, by the way, had all the people who were working with Ivermectin on it and a lot of excitement. And in fact, in one large state in India utter protest, they just featured this. They literally just stomped it out. Mexico opened it up. Central America, one of my colleagues up in Detroit, John McKinnon. So listen, I'm down in Honduras. This stuff is working great. Publishing, publishing. So what happened there is the government agencies,

54:26and this is how nefarious this is, instead of letting people use Ivermectin to help patients get better. And I'm telling you, as a doctor, I testified under oath, this is useful, very useful product and very safe, very safe, safer than Tylenol. The FDA launches a campaign saying it's just a horse dewormer. And this gets out on late night TV. Jimmy Kimmel says, you know, die, weezy, if there's an Ivermectin. Yes, yes, yes. And Pierre Corrie, one of my colleagues, publishes a book, Year Two Later. It's probably the best title of any book. It's called The War on Ivermectin. So essentially our government launches a war on Ivermectin. And all governments in the world do so. They try to restrict its use. So if I wrote a prescription for Ivermectin, the pharmacy would say we're not filling it. And so the intentionally blocked hydroxychloroquine and then Ivermectin. Now later on, they blocked other drugs in the McCulloch protocol, like culture scene,

55:29Montalucas, cortical steroids. So anything that was illegally prescribed, generic, clinically indicated, medically necessary, off-label use, which I'm entitled to do as a doctor, the pharmacies were blocking it. So piscic people would see a doctor like me, get a prescription, go to a pharmacy, and then be denied care. This went so far that Dr. Mary Telet-Boden in Houston, Dr. Paul Merrick and Dr. Aptor in Arizona. They filed a lawsuit against the FDA. Can you imagine this? Doctors in practice suing the FDA. And they sued the FDA for their deception with the public, saying this is only a horse to you warmer, implying that it didn't work. And this gets in court. They start to present the case and present the data to lawyers for the FDA say, okay, what we give up, we're taking down all of our incorrect and false information. So that is a prima facie evidence.

56:32Our government was putting out false information, trying to suppress a valuable treatment. Why? Why would they do that? The only reason I can think is our government wanted only one solution. And that was mass vaccination. Because listen, beyond Ivermectin, we had another drug, PECS, Lovid, and Molnapirvir that came out, and they came out late. We are already two years into the pandemic. The government never featured them. We're never going to need billboards for this. Nothing.