Historica Automaton: A History of Robots before the Tech Age (BEST OF 12/29/25)

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4:10You are listening to the Secret Teachings Radio. I'm your host, Ryan Gabel. It is December 29th, 2005. Rapidly approaching, 2026, the new year. If you'd like to contact the show tonight, you can email R.D.GAPLE at Yahoo.com. You can find us on social media by either clicking the links on the website at tstradio.info or just searching tstradio on those different platforms. The website also has the full show archive, my books and more. That's tstradio.info. Still have a few episodes before the new year here this week, so what I wanted to do was do a very traditional secret teaching tonight. If you've seen the show promo, you know what the show is about.

5:13If not, hold on. You'll learn in a moment. Tomorrow night, I wanted to do rather than a year in review show because I did that on Ground Zero. Last Friday with David Oats and that show is in the archive so that you can listen to it for free. If you're a subscriber to Ground Zero Plus, if you're listening to this there, then you know that's in the archive there. So what I wanted to do tomorrow was do a sort of end year show, not so much about this year. I'll wrap up some recent stories, but I wanted to do kind of a looking glass show. What 2026 looks like for the secret teachings, what my goals are, what my intentions are, and I think it's a perfect time tomorrow night to do that show because we have a lot of new listeners, a lot of listeners who heard us on Ground Zero or a lot of new listeners who have heard our recent shows and have been interested in them because they're very abnormal

6:24and very unique compared to most podcasts and radio shows you listen to. So we not only welcome all those new listeners, but I thought tomorrow night would be a great time to sit down and give you my perspective on the show and what I want the show to be in good faith, what I intend for it to be in the coming year. I'm trying to make a few little changes, maybe to some bumpers and deform adding I like to refresh things on occasion. So that's what you can look forward to tomorrow. And then Wednesday as a handful of you have already responded and know what is going on Wednesday. And I need to make sure that I have all the dates right because I'm a day ahead here in Japan. Wednesday night, which is New Year's Eve, that's the 31st, we will have a special live countdown episode. It's not countdown to the New Year per se. It's countdown. It's countdown to the cosmic con artist David Wilcox ascension 2025 scam.

7:37Being once again like 2012 and Y2K wrong. We didn't ascend in 2025. Well, I guess we still could we have got what 72 hours or 48 hours or something like that. But it's not going to happen because that's ascension isn't a literal thing. It's figurative thing. It's a symbolic thing. It's a metaphor, I believe. And so that means that we'll get to countdown seconds, five, four, three, two, one. And then we'll be in the New Year. And we wouldn't have ascended. So that's what you get Wednesday. We have a live YouTube Facebook and X stream set up for that. You can go to social media and you can click on it. You can already I think you can already get into the chat isn't the chat open before the show a day or two or as soon as you post it, I think you can get into the chat. So that will be the Wednesday show. I'm very excited about that. And I'm trying to get guests to come on the show. I've got one guest, a guest lined up. I've got some other guests that I'm hoping can do it. Even if they just maybe we have pre recorded segments with them on video.

8:43So anyway, check that out. It's already posted on YouTube. That'll be our countdown to 2026 with well with no ascension once again. So that'll be a kind of a fun show. I know some people get upset about those shows, but look, would you rather be not help to expose frauds on the internet that make all of us look stupid. That's the way that I look at it. Plus I've been covering that crap for like 10, 12 years. I think it's some it's only right that we we see the the final fraud. It has to be the final scam. The final countdown scam. Die out. It has to be the last one. There's no way anybody can give that guy money after after 2025 scam. That's got to be it. That has to be the end of it. So we'll do that Wednesday. All right. So for tonight, I was really thinking it would be a classic episode of the secret teachings. And I just kept coming across this story that kind of relates to what

9:48I got for Christmas. It's not the same thing, but it kind of relates to it. So I mentioned that for Christmas, I had got I got a copy of a video game. I wanted to play ghost of Yote, which is a I don't think she's not technically I haven't played it yet. She's not technically a samurai. She's more of a Ronin or something like that. I don't know the whole story. It's a sequel to ghost of Tsushima, which is one of my favorite games of all time. So I got that game. I got some other small little gifts, but my wife got me a kokeshi doll. And I've always wanted to kokeshi doll, not like a cheap tourist doll that you get in Shinjuku or something. Not like a like a gift store kokeshi doll, but a but a real kokeshi doll. And if you don't know what a kokeshi doll is, it's a little wooden doll. There's really old style ones, which they basically look like you you smooth it out a cylinder of wood, just like a wooden cylinder. And then you paint something on it. And the top has like it's like a wooden ball. So it's ahead and you paint the head on it. They make them for kids and they make them for for men for women.

10:59Some of them look like they have a kimono on, but most of the time it's like flowers or pat. It just depends on what you get. Usually floral patterns or something like that. So these have been around for several hundred years. They were used as children's toys. They originated in Honshu, northern Honshu, Japan, made of wood and painted with the things I just explained. So I've always liked kokeshi dolls. My wife got me one. They're very expensive because they're all handmade. If you get a real one, you get a mass produced one made in China. Some gift shop. But my wife got me a real one. So they're pretty expensive. That was my big Christmas gift. And it is a it's a beautiful doll. Mine is more of a I guess you could say mine's more of a modern design. It has the kimono with the kimono arms and it has the classical kind of black hair. It's very very very doll like. So matter of fact, there's a Japanese movie that just came out and I don't think it's probably popular outside of Asia. It's called doll house though or doll.

12:09I have not watched the whole movie because it's in Japanese and I can't understand all of it. But my wife watched it on a on a plane and we flew to Guam a couple of months ago. And I I saw some of the imagery of it. It's a very occult movie. It's a scary doll movie. It looks from what I saw it looks like the doll itself is used to be a human. Somebody had taken a maybe a mother had killed her child or something. And she had I think maybe the dad took the the dead child and boiled the body and got the skin off of it. And it's very gruesome. And then took the skeleton of it or at least the skull of it and put clay on it and turn it into a doll. So this doll is not really possessed but the spirit of the child is still in this doll in the modern day.

13:09I read the description of it. It says one of five year old daughter dies and mother is devastated but finds solace in the doll that looks like her daughter and begins to treat the toy as part of her family. I think I think if you the the origin of that particular doll is that it was the girl that was murdered or something like that. So it's a really popular movie over here. So that got me thinking about dolls too. Make it move with the ram heavy duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go the distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty. Hurry and now for great deals during the ram driving to Paul sales event excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable visit moapar.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty. Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins Inc. Ram and Hemi are registered trademarks of FCA US LLC. McDonald's is putting value back on the menu. Whether you're craving a big Mac McNuggets or sausage egg and cheese McGrittle's make it a meal and save.

14:14Your favorite is now your wallet's favorite to extra value meals are back. Get a big something extra with a big Mac or 10 piece McNuggets fries and a medium coke all for just $9 limited time only promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing. Make it move with the ram heavy duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go the distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty. Hurry and now for great deals during the ram driving to Paul sales event excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable visit moapar.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty. Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins Inc. Ram and Hemi are registered trademarks of FCA US LLC. And when I got this little cookie she doll. It reminded me of these kind of they're like mechanical robotic dolls that are really famous in a Japanese history.

15:19And I had posted that to to Facebook what I got for Christmas and a listener of ours. Who's been a listener for a long time named clay he message me and said. Because I asked him about these Japanese mechanical dolls and he message me and said he said it sounds like. Those robotic. So I sold the silver swan which I had totally forgot about the silver swan will talk about what the silver swan is tonight it's basically a robot and it dates back or a robotic type machine that dates back to the 1700s. And Clay and I were talking and Clay says that there's you know there's a whole bunch of these types of devices around the world roughly at the same time. And he's right there's a lot of different robotic mechanical automotons if you will or automata that were being designed somewhere between the 17th 18th centuries some a little more recently that for the time period just kind of based on the pop culture view of history you would think these are this is way too advanced for the time period.

16:31But it actually goes back even further than the 17th century goes back to ancient Egypt and maybe not in as complex of a way but it does go back to very ancient history and the the history of this sparked in my mind a memory of having read a number of different occult books. One of which referred to or I guess you could call this more of a history book but I read in a cult book a reference to this old history book called the pneumatics of hero of Alexandria is originally written in Greek and it is a really interesting book that talks about automaton among other things. But can but vessels that can be utilized to do things like poor liquid their machines that you can program to do a number of things now that's not like a computer program it's more like simple mechanics more like bike mechanics it's not a computer program.

17:42But this book details as an old book was published in 1851 it details all of these different things that were were had at the time or in the past had been developed like for example using fire or other mechanisms to have automatic doors like something you would see in a sci-fi movie or on the starship enterprise like a door that opens by itself. Like a grocery store door when you go to the store the little sensor sees you and it opens the door but this stuff is in the ancient world these things are found in ancient temples. They didn't use the same kind of machinery but the same ideas were there and no we're not talking about to Tariya no we're not talking about some Atlantis we're just talking about traditional kind of human history. So we'll look at all of that tonight because I think it's really interesting just the history of it but I like to find things that are happening things that inspire me.

18:49And relate that to the show so when I get this little kokeshi doll for Christmas when my favorite gifts beautiful little doll. So relatively small dolls maybe the size of your hand if you're a full grown adult maybe the size of your hand they make smaller ones they make bigger ones but I got like a medium to small size one. When I saw that it made me think when I first got this thing it made me think that you know there's another Japanese doll that I would really like to have I don't think that you can get one because they're all a museums I don't think they make replicas of them maybe they do I don't know they're called. They're called kada kuri ning yu and these became popular sometime in the 1600s 1700s 1800s basically the Edo period prior to the Meiji restoration in Japan so it's about 1603 1868. And these are best known historically there's some museums here they're best known if you don't know what these are you should look them up because they're really fascinating they're called kada kuri k a r a kada kuri k u r i you can just type that in and you'll find these online and what they are basically is a mechanical doll and they serve tea.

20:14It holds a tea saucer in both hands and when a tea cup is placed on the saucer the doll bows its head and begins to shuffle its feet forward delivering the tea to a customer once the tea cup is removed the doll stops moving when the empty tea cup is returned to the saucer less weight it is programmed to turn around. And shuffle back to its original position now we're talking Edo period so we're talking the Edo period began 400 years ago and in the Edo period of time in Japan they had these kinds of machines this is not tataria. This is the real not lost but the real technological advancements of human history that have been let's say not ignored but they've been passed over this is in museums here.

21:26Most people know what it is the first time I asked my wife what it was she said oh yeah yeah this little wait I've seen those before wasn't really a big deal it was just part of the history you probably wouldn't think of something like that from 400 years ago that there's a little mechanical doll that's programmed it's sitting there you put a tea cup with tea on it and it goes shuffles over delivers the tea. And then they put the tea cup back after the done drinking it's lighter so then it's programmed to turn around and it shuffles back to its original position. I mean that is really complex for 400 years ago even for 100 years ago maybe not so much 100 years ago but I think most of us would think that's pretty advanced even for 100 years ago. And Japan is not the only country that had them these types of devices exist all over the world. The mechanical robotic silver swan that I mentioned that we'll talk about tonight on the show and none of this is by the way none of this is something that you're going to have to pull from one of those silly sort of fake websites like you know before it's new.

22:46Before it's news which is like it was they can even cheaper version of Wikipedia that anybody could post anything there all the time. It's not like that this is like main line and official very public like museums in Japan or history websites that deal with certain countries even the Smithsonian. It's not like they covered it up this Smithsonian even had a really interesting article about the silver swan which is hundreds of years old and it's a mechanical robot it dates back to 1773 and it's made of real silver. That was invented by John Joseph Merlin who collaborated with a London inventor named James Cox in the 18th century to build this silver swan robot. So when I'm reading about this I'm thinking well there's a lot of stories about lost history and lost technology.

23:50And because of people's fascination with those things I believe that mixed with the fact that it's very difficult to trust anything that you that gets pushed to the top of your feed on social media which is where the majority of people get their news now. And so if the algorithm based on your searches and interest is tuned to that type of content rather than getting something like the Kata Kudidol which is real it's a real robot from 400 years ago or the silver swan. Instead you get to Tariya and you get people on YouTube that claim that after they molested a girl and spent 10 years in jail that they've got all the secrets to the ancient maps and they've got all the secrets to the lost history. It's pretty convenient a lot of people molest kids and then suddenly become internet celebrities and they've got all the secret information it's like you don't need to go there for that information like I can I don't know.

24:56I don't know how many museums they have in Japan but I know there's one in Tokyo that you can go and see these robots it's not hidden it's not bear it under a mud flood it's real it's there you can physically see it if it wasn't behind glass you could touch it. It's Paul in America make it count at the Ram Drive into Fall sales event make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever make it move with the Ram heavy duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go the distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty. Hurray and now for great deals during the Ram Drive into Fall sales event excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable visit moapar.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty come into the registered trademark of Cummins a Ram and Hemi are registered trademarks of FCA US LLC.

25:56It's Paul in America make it count at the Ram Drive into Fall sales event make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever make it move with the Ram heavy duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go the distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty. Hurray and now for great deals during the Ram Drive into Fall sales event excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable visit moapar.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty come into the registered trademark of Cummins a Ram and Hemi are registered trademarks of FCA US LLC. It's a real thing and that is base I guess it depends on how you grew up and what you learn growing up but for most people if you tell someone that there were robots in Asia in what the Edo period in Japan 400 years ago they probably tell you that you were crazy but this is not something that you have to go search.

27:02The dark recesses of the internet for this is something that you can find in a museum if you fly to Tokyo and again Japan something place it has this as we'll look at tonight on the show. So it tells us that it's on a loss history it's just something that's not really well talked about and also just because they had them doesn't mean that they were in widespread use even today. It's a great example today there are robots at sushi restaurants there are robots at some shops at train stations there's a sushi restaurant near my place where I live here in Japan and there's a we've gone in there a few times and they have a robot it's a modern version of a kata kuri doll or we call it maybe not as much a doll that they technically call it a doll but I look at it I'm like it's not only a doll is more from machine. But I guess I'm a doll could be a machine but it's more a machine more of a robot per se than a doll but they have one of these in the restaurant today and you'll see people order a beer and someone will stick a beer on it and then it just rolls down the aisle goes to the table turns delivers the beer.

28:14It says thank you and then they take the beer off of it turns around it goes back to its resting place. And that's exactly what the kata kuri doll did yet it's not like a big deal it's not even tourists they see that they're that's it nobody's taking pictures of it it's just there it's just a part of some sushi restaurants and some businesses have those little robots that do those types of things. I mean I'd say I don't even know if it's very I wonder if we ask somebody who works there is this this robot more for show or is it maybe like a traditional kind of a thing considering that they've had these dolls delivering tea and probably other beverages for hundreds of years is it more of like a traditional thing is it a it's not much of a gimmicky thing. It's I mean in terms of it's not like advertised come see the robot that delivers your drinks or anything like that it's just how it is here so I wonder if it even has has much of a benefit like does it really save time maybe it does I don't know it might be a cultural thing that I don't understand just throwing all sorts of ideas out there the point is there's one of the sushi restaurant down the street for me.

29:31And it's just there and it's not an attraction is just a robot that delivers drinks and you'll find those on occasion all over Japan so you look back for a year's it's probably something very similar it was just something they had and I would assume it was maybe for people that had a little bit of money and that's just it it wasn't like a big thing per se it wasn't a attraction it's just there but let's listen to how these things are built though this is really interesting I read this from nipon dot com so Japanese website that has Japanese news but it also has a lot of Japanese history on it. And nipon dot com says this is another well known mechanical doll is the Don Gaeri Ningo or stair walking doll it can make its way down a series of steps by doing back hand springs the doll center of gravity shifts as mercury moves around an interior chamber this causes the doll to flip end over end.

30:44Another doll called shina tamah ningo or magician doll was designed to perform a simple parlor trick a young child dressed in Chinese style clothing lifts and lowers a box each time revealing a different surprise within. So they made more than just a tea delivery doll they made dolls that walk up and downstairs dolls that are more like part of a magic show something to entertain. So there's a lot of this history once again a lot of this history that is available it's not hidden it's not a secret it's not buried under mud it's just there you can. In seed in museums it's a real thing and yet we're too busy chasing to Tariya mud floods were too busy chasing crystal pyramids that power the Atlantean spaceships.

31:48I mean if you're interested in that great fine I don't care I just don't understand why there's so much verifiable perceptually out of place history and it's kind of ignored for the fantasy and maybe that's the point because it is visible and you can see it even if it's kind of perceptually out of place. Then we can see it so it's not really it's not we're we're looking for what somebody hides from us right. They're hiding this secret history from us not really it's a lot of it's very available to see we just choose not to see it or we see it we're like oh well it must the real good stuff must be hidden. So all these mechanical dolls if you want to look them up I gave you the spelling of karakuri the don gari is D.A.N. G.A.E.R.I. and then the shina which is pretty simple to spell a S.H.I.N.A. T.A.M.A.

32:52These mechanical dolls are grouped together under the category of Zashiki or Zashiki Kata Kuri. Small mechanical dolls often used in the home as a popular amusement parties or during festivals. This type of doll one admiration from people across every layer of Edo society from the Imperial court down to the commoners. So they were used to deliver tea they were used to perform tricks for guests they were used to entertain and although all of this probably wasn't happening starting in 1603 the dolls date back to 1600s. 400 years and change ago. That's really interesting when they started to lose fashion when they started to go out of fashion they began to fall to fashion sometime around the me easy restoration which is about 1868.

33:59So in other words by 1868 mechanical robotic dolls not autonomous but they might appear to be so to common people but mechanical dolls robots that performed tricks went up and down stairs delivered drinks to guests commoners as well as those in the Imperial Palace by 1868. People weren't using them or seeing them as much they kind of lost fashion sense that was 150 something years ago. And when I read that I think to myself 150 years ago mechanical robotic dolls went out of fashion and popularity. And when you say that it kind of messes with your sense of modern technological not advancement but modern technological interest because today you know people are interested I mean even in the 90s you had like little robot toys and things like that maybe it's because we have so much of this type of technology that it's not I mean we have drawn a lot of attention to the technology.

35:26And I think that we have drawn today those were pretty big at Christmas time a few years ago I'm not sure so much anymore I think drones of kind of unless you're wealthy or unless you're like unless you're maybe you're you're a like a quote content creator that goes and makes videos or if you're a documentarian or something. And I think it's like they were I think it became way too invasive I think probably became too expensive there's a lot of people that have used them for things that are that are just immoral and wrong so I don't think that those are as popular as they once were just a few years ago. Maybe it's because we have so much of this stuff that were not as fascinated by a robotic type doll but it's not like they they built them and continued to build them into the 1900s and into the modern day I mean we we have robots today but even if they serve a similar purpose like this particular type of doll sort of died out over 150 years ago.

36:30I just find that timeline to be interesting find that to be really kind of fascinating almost 150 years ago the Japanese said yeah these aren't really that interesting or we're going to move on to other things. Things that you know you I don't think that this was a. The distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty hurry and now for great deals during the Ram driving to Paul sales event excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable visit more part dot com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty come into the register trademark of comments and ramen heavy our registry trademarks of FCA US LLC.

37:30It's fall in America make it count at the Ram driving to fall sales event make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever make it move with the Ram heavy duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go the distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty hurry and now for great deals during the Ram driving to Paul sales event excludes fully electric vehicles apply to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable visit more part dot com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty come into the car. This is a very well known thing and certainly you don't read stories about this in. I mean you don't read anything about this in like American history. Benjamin Franklin was sitting there consulting with like a little robot doll that brought him teed and read about that so. But by the way there's a lot of really interesting things in American history that you probably be surprised about to terms of technological advancements and other things but these these things might also be very small piece such small pieces of history that they're not necessarily that relevant but it should it changes my perception it when I first learn about this it changed my perception.

38:44Of contemporary technology it changed my perception of of history now when you look around the world you'll find as I said something very similar behind these these dolls you'll find human ingenuity no matter if it's in Japan or if it's in London or if it is anywhere else you look in the world you'll find this. You'll find this human ingenuity you will find humans building things that seem out of place. And so we're going to look at a history of this on the secret teachings tonight will start with the silver swan. This is again something you can look at this on the Smithsonian website you know some source that you would think all they would destroy this kind of technology they would bury this technology. Well it's not like it's a robot terminator drone it's just that it's just not well known which is see this is part of the issue with the the lost history argument.

39:55Most history is lost if you don't pick up books and read you know there are things that you can go online copyright free material and you can read those books old books online like for example this book that I'm referencing. It's a night on the show is the pneumatics of hero of Alexandria from the original Greek translated and edited by Bennett Woodcroft professor of machinery in the university college London in 1851 go read that book and you'll read about some fascinating mechanical inventions. Things that are a little bit maybe not come more complex but there are a little bit or they seem a little bit maybe out of place for the time or they seem very futuristic at the very least.

40:56I mean if you think back you know mechanics and machines like Eli Whitney this is one of the things that you learn in history class you have to write this down on the test right Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin and 1794. Which you know separated the cotton fibers from the seeds and this really increased cotton production efficiency and it was a fantastic convention. And these kinds of machines 1794 it's stuff been around for a long time that's about 200 years after these caught a curry doll started popping up in Japan. But this is a again a universal thing all over the world that machines and mechanical devices this stuff has been in the human mind. And it has been externalized into physical technologies we have tried to find new ways to to entertain ourselves in the case of those dolls we found new ways to make in this case of of cotton to make cotton production more efficient you know to make printing more efficient with the printing press which greatly reduced.

42:09The amount of time that takes to well sit down and copy out like a monk used up the copy a whole book now you could just put the blocks in place and it's still it's not like a modern printer but it it's it's you know drastically speed up the amount of time that you that you would otherwise have to expend and copy and something by hand you could just speed it up and speed it up and just press it and printed and I mean but that goes back to what was when was the printing press invented it was like the 14 hundred. Or something and it's not it's mechanical it's not so it's it's probably less complex than a caught a curry doll but it's very very in a sense it's almost out of place based on our perceptions of history which is what a lot of this show is tonight it's based on perceptions of history because if you were to ask most people when was the printing press invented if I didn't give you the date would you know it was 1440 in Germany

43:09at 600 years ago printing press we're so used to control P. Oh there's a fancy new printer prints faster it's laser jet but printers have been around for 600 years it's a long time now I mean if you're one of those people that is just a history buff and you know all this none of this is that interesting to you when I'm when I'm getting at though when I'm trying to say if it's not clear is that based on our perceptions of history when you look at these modern conspiracies about lost technology and and and lost artifacts and things like this when you look at the anti-catheterian device for example and how it's a basically a computer it's a mechanical device and this thing dates back to the second century BC well that's a lot older than the printing press obviously but considering that most of us I think the pop culture view about technology is that mechanical technology is not that old you know just a few just a few hundred years ago we were still using a lot of like you know ropes and basic tools to build things which is where the idea for you know this lost history

44:31is lost technology comes from we just assume that anything prior to home depot was sticks and stones or something we can't just people had to make their own tools out of sticks and rocks and it's like there's just so much history that's available that explains how things were built you know even there have been people that have demonstrated these very complex that they appear to be carvings like complex pillars or complex maybe like railings that you think of as being super sophisticated and taking a lot a lot of time to come to carve and chisel when in reality they could have just been molds it's very simple could have just been a mold in the same way that there's a lot of evidence that when you look at certain forms of I guess they might call it in most cases polygonal architecture or the rocks seem to be you know mashed together like play dough or something that it was just done with heat you know they liquefied the rocks or made them very close to close to liquefcation as you can possibly get without them fully losing their form

45:47and then you push them together and they cool and that's how you get those those amazing walls and that you can't there's no evidence of any kind of mortar being used so it's just like new new ideas of how these things could have been done that don't require some advanced alien technology it doesn't require some kind of advanced human technology I mean it it it's advanced for the time period it's just that we've lost not so much the technology we just moved on to other things we've just moved on to other ways of doing things for one reason or another and we've kind of just forgotten that at one point maybe we use molds to make these things are we used which we do that today you know where we used we use various forms of of craftsmanship or people were skilled in things that there's just not many people skilled in those things today there are people I've watched people do it where they can it takes them a while but they can chisel and carve things out it's like people that make I mean we have a listener Jonathan Fuller I have one of his little alien head statuettes that he sent me as a gift a while ago and some of the stuff that Jonathan Fuller makes it's just incredible just molding things with your hands I can't do not many people can do that but there are people who can do it just because you can't do it doesn't mean someone else can't do it or hasn't done it in the past

47:14so a lot of a lot of the lost history a lot of the lost technology stuff is just a I think a lot of it's just a result of not thinking that there's other ways to do it just kind of assuming that things have to be done a specific way or thinking that well I can't do it so it must have been to Tariya which I don't even know what what that argument is like I don't what there was a mud flood I mean I've heard that theory so many times and it's the most specific way to do it. That's ridiculous nonsense I think I've ever heard are are there things that are out of place historically yeah are there buildings that are partly underground yeah that is that does that mean a giant mud flood destroyed the earth no I like where does this stuff come from I don't get it especially considering that there are real things if we go back to the caught a curly doll or we go back to the printing press we go back to the anti-catherian mechanism and I'm going to go back to the I don't get it especially considering that there are real things if we go back to the caught a curly doll or we go back to the printing press we go back to the anti-catherian mechanism.

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49:42Ram and Hemi are registered trademarks of FCA US LLC. That are very much like they're there there things that you can there things that you can see like humans built this stuff we built this it wasn't aliens it wasn't some lost civilization per say it was humans that did this. And these ideas the building of this kind of stuff has been in the human mind for thousands of years. Let's look a little closer at the silver swan this is a really interesting story I started to explain it and then I digress into just technology in general but let's look at the silver swan. The silver swan is an automaton it's it's called an automaton or it's it's an automated device and I don't know if it's there now I don't know if they move it around like a lot of exhibits get moved around but I believe it's at the science museum in London.

50:47At least in 2017 it was at the London science museum and it's a robot it's what's called it's a robot it's a robot that used to attract a lot of people to see it because it was very unique and different they expect a 17. 73 that's pretty old for a robot it's made a pusilver I mentioned John Joseph Merlin who collaborated with James Cox in the 18th century and built this thing. I believe it resides officially in the bowels museum and there's actually a link in this particular article to the museum I could not get it to load earlier it's not loading right now either. Maybe they've changed the page or something like that based this article was published in 2017 but it was in the Bose museum it was also at one point in the science museum in London so I don't know where they've moved it now.

51:51But it it's an internal clockwork mechanism like with a watch and inside you have these glass rods that rotate. When you wind this thing up and then for about 40 seconds the swan swims in a crystal pool it preens it looks about and then as a grand finale it sees a fish and it eats the fish. It's all part of this you know mechanical thing the fishes and its mouth but it appears that the swan goes down picks the fish out of the out of the water. You can watch it there's a video of it how it works swan head turns around. Peers to be water underneath of it I mean it looks it looks more like a snake. It looks around it's looking it's looking it's looking into the water and then toward the end of the video it eats the fish.

52:56So it's a real thing you just watched it you can see it if you find find it in the museum later it it fell under the ownership in 19th century of some art collectors who brought bought it for like. I think it was 200 200 euros or something like that and then they put it on display at the Paris International exhibition. Which is one of those things kind of like you know the world's fair the world's fair conspiracy oh my god they had advanced technology at the world's fair. Well yeah that's kind of the whole point you go to show off new technologies. So they just had the the Osaka expo here in Japan. Well I was going to go to we were going to get tickets but they were just first of all they were outrageously expensive and even with tickets you weren't even guaranteed to get into all of the events of the different countries because the lines were so incredibly long like some people would have to wait the entire day to just just to get in.

54:05So I did a show I should actually pull that as a best of it was one of the better funny the fun funnier better best shows that I did all I love that show because the Osaka exhibit this year. Put on display from different countries technologies including what amounted to what Elon Musk was talking about Joe Rogan hover flying car I don't think that the display that they had set up I don't think that the different countries. So I think that the same administration that they had worked out like it was supposed to but if you were to look back on the Osaka expo 50 years from now and still not have hover cars even though David will cut promise to hover cars but still not have hover cars. And then someone learns that at the Osaka expo there was some sort of hover car then they're going to say well look 50 years ago they had hover cars.

55:05Not sure of it and people that have no context for this are going to look at it and say oh my god they did have hover cars why are we been lied to. But if you were to ask someone who was actually there or someone who is alive and remembers that there was a there was a story about that but it didn't really go that well and it was just like a concept. Unless you ask one of those people ask people like me who tried to explain the context of it most people would think like I never heard that oh my god they had hover cars oh my god they lied to us. And that's kind of what this is they're they're showing off concepts for things. Okay, it's it's a concept. It doesn't mean that they actually have put it into production and that everybody was flying flying cars in 2025 that's not the that's not the the the the reality of the situation.

56:14Flying cars here's a headline here just to give you some context what's the status of the flying cars at ongoing Osaka consi expo. And the status is that they're not doing so well because there was an accident with one of the flying cars. You were going to be able to take a take a flight on it as as a visitor to the expo but they had some issues. So let's let's just think about that for a second. If you see a picture of that 50 years from now you're going to think we've been lied to because we don't have those today well they didn't have them now either. They just were concepts that were flown at an expo and that's what these worlds fairs are. That's what these international exhibitions are. They're for things that are concepts they're for things that in the case of the silver swan back in 1867 it was actually built it's real you can see it today.

57:14It's it's a it's an actual piece of mechanical robotic technology from the 1700s 1773. But they're not widespread like if you look back at 1867 all they had robots back in 1867. Yeah, but there was like one. And it wasn't a widespread thing. If you go back to the 1600s so about 150 60 70 years before that in Japan these caught a kuddi dolls were probably more widespread because even commoners could interact with them and see them. People that were poor could even interact and see these things but just because there were caught a kuddi dolls doesn't mean that everybody had one. In the same way that if you go to a sushi restaurant today like the sushi restaurant by my house has a robot that delivers drinks just like these dolls. But I've been to probably ten sushi restaurants like distinct sushi restaurants and I've only seen those robots at maybe maybe two including the one by my house which is a more of a chain maybe two most sushi restaurants have been two do not have robots.

58:33You know or it's like with a lot of a lot of different forms of technology. I mean even when I was a kid I used to think when I first I was into planes and I used to go to the air show in Tampa at McDill Air Force Base. I always thought like the United States had thousands of aircraft carriers. I didn't realize they only had a couple of them. You know it's it's kind of like that with history. If you were a stupid kid like me or if you're a stupid adult there's a bunch of them on the internet. Oh they had robots in 1867 the Paris International exhibition they had where they're keeping this a secret. Well I mean it's available online it's not really a secret you can see it you can interact with it I don't know what museum it's in today but it's there you have there's it's a real. And the technology for it is actually pretty simple. It's Paul in America make it count at the Ram Drive into Fall sales event make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever make it move with the Ram Heavy Duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go the distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty.

59:38Hurray and now for great deals during the Ram Drive into Fall sales event. Excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable visit MoPAR.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty. Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins a Ram and Hammer registered trademarks of FCA US LLC. McDonald's is putting value back on the menu. Whether you're craving a big Mac McNuggets or sausage egg and cheese MacGridels make it a meal and save. Your favorite is now your wallet's favorite to extra value meals are back. Sun rises prices fall get a sausage McMuffin with egg or sausage egg and cheese MacGridels small hot coffee and hash frowns for just $6. Price and participation may vary promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing. It's Paul in America make it count at the Ram Drive into Fall sales event make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever make it move with the Ram Heavy Duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go the distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty.

1:00:39Hurrie and now for great deals during the Ram Drive into Fall sales event. Excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable visit MoPAR.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty. Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins a Ram and Hammer registered trademarks of FCA US LLC. I'm not an engineer but the way that it's explained is very simple clock mechanics. But I think part of it it's the perception not just of history and contemporary technology. It's also the perception of of words because when you hear robot. What do you think of when you hear robot. What do you think of when you hear you know Talos. You know the story of Talos the bronze automaton who guarded the island of Crete in the Greek myth. You ever heard that story? Well the story of Talos the myth of Talos is first of all that Talos is considered the first robot in human history.

1:01:42There's never been a robot or anything similar after before Talos and even really after Talos because Talos is described as this very big. I mean if you watched ancient aliens they have the most utterly ridiculous depiction of Talos that it's like a robot that walks out into the water and picks up these ships and like smashes them or something. It's really I mean it's ancient aliens so which by the way I don't mind that show I kind of like that show. I think it's funny I think a lot of it's nonsense or just people asking questions that are taken as literalisms but the point is I think that it's not a robot. The point is I think that their depiction of Talos was just utterly ridiculous and I think that's what people think of when they think of something like the Talos robot. You know but what what exactly was it because again you see that word robot oh they must have had like a my iron giant.

1:02:45And it probably wasn't my my iron was it what is that movie is it my iron giant what is the movie. Maybe I'm thinking of another movies my iron giant which is the is it the iron giant I thought was my iron 1999 American animated fiction film. I thought it was my iron giant so it's like the iron giant that's what people probably think it's like the iron giant walking around and picking ships up and smashing the ships. And that's just a lost history. If you don't know the myth myth is this that Talos or Talos was this giant automaton made of bronze is created by a god a divine figure. Forget how you pronounce their name it's like half a step a step or something is the name of the god but he gifted it to the king. Minos and other stories it's gifted to you to ropa. It's gifted by Zeus to guard the island of Crete.

1:03:48And the robot reportedly circles the island three times a day has these big rocks picks up and flings at ships. If a ship did land on shore then he would there's different descriptions of this but the robot would like turn red it would heat up and it would grab people and then like burn them to death. And I said that the life force of this robot was a divine fluid from the gods which historically speaking like context wise that could mean anything I mean mercury is a fluid of the gods the most common fluid of the gods is blood. It doesn't mean blood was feeling this thing but just blood is a is a liquid of the gods I mean it belongs to God in the old testament. And blood it's universally outside the bible at most cultures find that blood is the you know the driving divine life force or at least it contains the life force.

1:04:57So this robot has this divine liquid whatever it could be and I mean by divine liquid it could have just been like gasoline you know if you describe cars today how to cars functions it's some kind of divine liquid it's like it's it's petrol it's it mean whatever fuel you used maybe it's diesel fuel maybe it's. Let it unleaded I don't know it's it's like a divine fluid if you don't have to explain it you call it divine fluid. But the robot supposedly had the single vein. From its neck to its ankle and it was sealed by a bronze bolt kind of every time I hear the story I think of of the robots from. From skyrim you go to the door of an ruins and you fight those big mechanic machine it's kind of how it sounds to me they're not like monstrous but they're big enough that compared to your your humanoid size character it's probably like two and a half times your height so it's you know like David and Goliath Goliath is a giant but like what is a giant you know what is a giant.

1:06:00It was in context. You know someone who's six foot six and they go to China where the average mail and females like under five three five four. Six five is a foot tall that's kind of a giant you know and if you happen to be you know you might be a. Shack size. Seven footer what's that guy the place for the spurs windy is like seven foot one or something or maybe seven foot two. I mean you're a giant compared to most people so like what is the context of giant the same thing with the word robot what is the context of robot a robot giant could be some machine that is maybe six foot five. And it's mechanical and people describe having seen it you know do something but that doesn't mean like it ran around like a terminator. And I think this is the imagery that we get in our heads when we we hear about stories like this. Now in the famous story from Apollonius of Rhodes is Argonautica the sorceress Medea which is also where some say we get the root for media which is not true but the twilight language I think is very similar.

1:07:14Because I think the the root word for media which has many many different meanings. Media is like I think it's from middle comes from Latin like in Latin it literally means the middle media the middle so. Medea media it's more twilight language but middle is the origin of media and medea is much older than the 16th century media which is the root of the word that we have today. But you try to explain that to people all you don't know what you're talking about it's like no I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about I'm looking at the dictionary definition of the word. In twilight language it means the same thing perhaps and there's a relationship but like in terms of it literally being where we got the word media from that's just etymologically not true. But don't let that get in the way of nonsense Instagram video that gets a million clicks for for for trash information.

1:08:19So anyway the sorceress Medea defeats this robot. And I believe drains out the liquid the special liquid and so that kills the robot now scholars historians what do they say about this robot well they they look at Talos is one of the earliest fictional depictions of artificial life or automaton's robots. It's just all myth it's not real and I don't necessarily believe that that's the case because I think it's a really simple way of writing off what could be a description of some sort of mechanical technology but the context matters because again six foot five to people that are five foot to that's kind of a giant. And considering that you know if you explain to people that there are robot dolls in the Edo period Japan they might think terminators but really they're just little mechanical things that deliver tea.

1:09:25So your perception of robot your perception of giant these things come into play and have to be considered when you're when you're reading things like this and trying to figure out like what what does this mean. Plus you know myths myths aren't what is your perception of the word myth because when you read the word myth people just assume myth means it's all fake it's all made up. And that's not what a myth is a myth is basically science it's a story it's a tradition it comes from somewhere else based on something that was real or based on the perception of something that was real it's an it's a it's a story that we tell. To try to explain something or it's a real event that turns into a legend that turns into a myth based on a real event but then it's like a game of telephone things change over time. Things develop new meanings myths are also exaggerations or idolized conceptions of things that actually did happen.

1:10:30I don't consider to misrepresentation of the truth I consider it to just be one way to preserve a story because if you try to I mean if you try to sit and explain to somebody the complex working inner workings of a machine unless you're an engineer or a super nerd I'm tuning out like I just automatically I have no idea. McDonald's is putting value back on the menu whether you're craving a big Mac McNuggets or sausage egg and cheese Mac Grittles make it a meal and save your favorite is now your wallet's favorite to extra value meals are back. Get a big something extra with a big Mac or 10 piece McNuggets fries and a medium coke all for just nine dollars limited time only promotion pricing maybe lower than meal pricing. Right now it's subway try the 499 sub of the day get a different six and sub every day for just 499 each like neat ball marinara on Mondays tuna on Tuesdays and the BMT on Saturdays it's a different six and sub every day

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1:12:45They're also specifically described but when you say Vimana most people they think like the ancient alien flying spaceship thing and so you get like the actual you got to go to the source you get the description and then you get in your minds I what that is and then based on contemporary things based on assumptions and then others give you maybe an idea based on more technical specifications of what they think it is and then it just becomes like a popular culture image so this goes back to 700 BC and it just keeps getting older and it keeps getting older and it keeps getting older but if you got these these robotic things in the 1700s in France London and you got these robotic things in the far east about the same time period around the 1600s going back even further than the robots in Paris and France and in London England and you get the thing you go back further and you find and you find that they've got things like the antica theorem device I mean you can't dispute that that's real the antica theorem device is very you can go to museum and see it.

1:13:54I know people that have gone and seen it and never seen it myself and I know people that have gone and seen it. So then that's like what is that second century BC and then you go back further and you got Talos 700 BC but if you go back even further than that because you can go back even further than that. It's like Graham Hancock says things just keep getting older and alongside of things that just keep getting older things keep getting weirder too because if you go back far enough you'll find the ancient Egyptians the ancient Chinese ancient cultures from all around the world were developing these types of things both at the same time and in time periods of the date back to a period of history that just kind of seems to be a lot of things. It's just kind of seems like it's made up like it seems like science fiction there's no way people could have done that well that's based on our perceptions of the world that's based on our perceptions of technology and those time periods and the fact is that they could have done it because they did do it and just because we can't do it or we don't understand what they did doesn't mean that it wasn't done.

1:15:01You can go back this is I think this is just shockingly fascinating just as you have Talos which is dated to sometime 700 BC the myth is 700 BC some of the depictions are like 400 BC so while the Greeks had that we don't know exactly the root of the myth but while the Greeks had that go back to ancient China. And in ancient China they had life like mechanical humanoid machines a life like mechanical man was presented to King Mu of Zao it could walk it could sing it could gesture realistically. Now what does that mean is that mean it was a real walking robot like the terminator maybe but some of the accounts kind of suggest that it was a lose your area.

1:16:04Now even if it is a lose your area like it's a parlor trick which we know that there were robots like that in Japan that they were basically used for parlor tricks. The ones that were more about entertainment I mean even the tea robots were kind of about more so about entertainment but just the idea that there are some does like that was a shiki that was designed to entertain people at parties and festivals. It's still a work of mechanical art it's still an engineering feat for the time period. And even if it's an illusion or the whole idea behind it is still it still seems out of place. Look up the name Yan Shi humanoid robot ancient China Yan Shi. This is a very old story third century B C this is a story that it dates to the time of Talos which means that in the Greek world and in the ancient Chinese world you have a humanoid robot now you have to think about the language and the translations.

1:17:31Because humanoid robot in Chinese the context and the meaning of that is more like a wooden figure with very simple moving mechanisms they were actually uses burial objects as early as the eighth century B C. I mean that that predates Talos by. I mean at minimum to maximum like a hundred hundred and fifty years I guess it depends on what. What history of Talos you're reading like the myths themselves maybe like 400 B C something like that this is 800 so it actually predates even if it didn't predate even if it's it's roughly the same time period for it to be equal. Which means that the Greeks and the Chinese. We're conceiving of the same exact types of mechanical devices. Nearly a thousand years before Christ a thousand years before year zero.

1:18:37And that is kind of hard to to put into perspective kind of hard to maybe not for everybody but even even for me it is a little bit it's kind of hard to put that into perspective considering that. I mean these little robotic dolls they had in Japan or China these little robotic things they had in France or England. That the technology for that even in the 1700 to 1600 was a thousand plus years old already. And people were doing these things building these things. Long long long long long before we conceived of robots in the more modern sense. Right now it's subway try the 499 sub of the day get a different six inch sub every day for just 499 each like neat ball marinara on Mondays tuna on Tuesdays and the BMT on Saturdays.

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1:20:43Your favorite is now your wallet's favorite to extra value meals are back. Get a big something extra with a big Mac or 10 piece McNuggets fries and a medium coke all for just $9. Limited time only promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing. Robots have really been a part of the human experience for quite literally thousands of years. And they've been around in some form for thousands of years. Yeah, if you look at some of these robots that are close to being marketed, I mean some people have already put down payments down for some of these robots that you can have clean your house. Although it's not really a robot that cleans your house, it's actually quite literally an Indian guy who interfaces with the robot and you're like, you need to clean up my laundry and the Indian guy, okay, I clean up your laundry, sir. And it's just like a it's like an Indian guy using your robot to clean your house is what it is.

1:21:44It's not really a robot per se. I mean, it's mechanical. It's a robot, but it's not using AI to do all this stuff. It's using an Indian to do all of this stuff. That's not a joke, by the way. They actually that's it interfaces with like customer service agents. Hello, sir. This is your robot 3700 XC. We are here to clean up your laundry today. It's that's what it is. It's not it's like search engines that have been turned into AI bots and like, oh, it's so intelligent. It's not really intelligent. It's just a glorified grok is a search engine. And that's what it should be used for. Don't ask it questions because the one word and a prompt changes the answer. The question. It's not it's not an amazing revelation that when you ask rock explain how you would take over the world. If you were going to take over the world, it's going to give you like every science fiction story, every robot, AI story. That's on the internet because that's what you're asking it to do. It's it's a search engine. Now ask it to find something for you like like tell me about the silver swan and give me links to sources about the silver swan.

1:22:48It'll do that. And then you can go directly to the source rather than asking grok a yes or no question. That's it's why it's very stupid to assume that the stuff is extremely advanced. It's not it's about the equivalent of all they had robots in the past. But when you learn what those robots were, they were just like little wooden mechanisms that weren't it's not like they were taking over the world. So Yanshi's humanoid robot dating back to 400 BC. The eighth century BC the Chinese had kind of wooden mechanical devices that were used for burials. So so we're looking at 800 BC is being some of the earliest stuff, but even in 800 BC these were common devices that were used in China. They were already common around that time. Then there's also more more Greek examples of these machines. The Greeks were maybe a little bit more efficient at building the stuff and even the Chinese were.

1:23:57The fact that there's a parallel is pretty amazing. But the Greeks had something else that is dated to the same time period as talos. And it might actually help us to understand talos. Because the Greeks had something called the robotic or mechanical bird. I believe it was the official name for it as as arctus. I don't know if that's how you pronounce the person's name arctus is flying pigeon. They are CHY-T-A-S. And it was a steam or compressed air powered wooden bird that could fly a few hundred meters. It's one of the earliest recorded flying machines. This is 400 300 BC something like that. It's pretty old. Alexandrian engineers around the same time had built water powered birds moving figures and early organs. They were used in temples and theaters for illusions.

1:25:06Greek robots. Some of the earliest stuff 300 400 500 BC. If you go back into the myth, I mean 600 700 BC and then in China doing this exact same thing in China. By the way, the Greeks were not to white people for the record. That always makes me upset when people say the Greeks and the Romans were white. That's not even an oversimplification of history. That's just wrong. It's just flat wrong. The Greeks and the Romans were not white. It's a little bit more complicated than that. Anyway, that's my own personal issue. I just that frustrates when people say that. And then we get to the book that I referenced earlier. I wanted to look at this book a little bit because it's really fascinating read. The pneumatics of hero of Alexandria from the original Greek translated by Bennett Woodcroft. And in this book, he describes hydraulic automata, automatic theater scenes with moving figures, temple doors that open via fire on an altar, singing birds, programmable carts.

1:26:28There are descriptions in ancient Egypt predating ancient Greece going back thousands and thousands of years before the Chinese and before these Greek figures that were describing here. And these descriptions are of basically the same thing. They're basically statues or statue ets that were seen to move and make sounds. Part of it's probably symbolic because the statue embodies the essence of the God. And if you listen close enough, you can hear the sound. But basically what you have here is a is a Wizard of Oz thing. You have a man behind the curtain pulling the levers, pulling the strings, pushing buttons, moving things. There's smoke that's produced. If you're in like a cavernous hall, a temple cave, something like that, a big structure that's unnatural, so a big temple that humans built.

1:27:42And you have this kind of echo. You think about it's dark outside. You've got big fires burning. There's smoke everywhere. Maybe this music playing you go and you got some priest or somebody. It's mostly for entertainment. But you got some priest or somebody like that and they're behind some voice amplifying thing. And they're in an you know, you're in an echoey area. And this is raw. It echoes throughout the whole whole area. You go back 3000 years ago, the ancient Egyptians supposedly had some of these atamata. I mean, that is it's kind of hard to imagine considering that we would typically consider these things to be far more modern inventions, you know, like some sort of old creepy European looking doll or Mary and that or something like that.

1:28:45But really the Egyptians had this 3000 years ago and the priests would manipulate these levers and pull these and ropes and is basic hydraulics to make statues appear to move and speak and perform actions reinforcing the idea that gods inhabited these figures. There are historical accounts dating back to 2000 BC of mechanical feeder models 2000 BC. So let's just put that into perspective. Okay. So modern robots today. We go back to 1773 where we have the Silver Swan. We go back to the 1600s in Japan where they have the Kata Kuri doll or various other forms of robotic entertainment devices. Then we go back again much much further into the past. And we find that pretty much the developed world. China to Greece had this type of technology dating back to the BC time period.

1:30:06And these BC time periods range from late BC to early BC. So late BC like a few hundred years BC to 2000 years BC. You find Talos. You find the Chinese burial wooden mechanical devices 800 BC 2000 BC in Egypt. It even goes back before that. Now you can find some famous examples of this in 1739. There's the French digesting duck. And the 1770s there's the Turk, which is an Austrian Hungarian chess plane, a Tomatán. There's the Switzerland. I believe they're just like this a little, they're kind of creepy little human like child like dolls. They're called androids. The shock hit draws on droids and Switzerland. They're really can still see them today. I think that they draw pictures. I don't know if they draw the same picture every time, but they're little robots that draw pictures.

1:31:19There's also one of the robots is a girl who plays a harp's chord or harp is chord very very realistic. And I think there's another one in the Indians had one to it's called the T pass or type us not typus type us so wouldn't tiger. It appears to be Maulini a man and it growls and there's a there's a musical device inside of it. And there's another I think it's it's an English invention. It is a it's called the if I remember how to pronounce the right mallard mallard at smell it's like it's like mallard duck I think mallard is mallard at mallard at its drossman writer so it's a very creepy looking mechanical device. That writes you can it doesn't really have a as a skeletal structure doesn't really have a body over top of that so it's kind of creepy.

1:32:20But it writes and does things like that so these are this is all like recorded well documented history. But then again if you go back even further into ancient Egypt. They brought the statues to life now in that case it's not a robot obviously but it is a form of a tomato and most people don't know. Had no idea how this stuff worked that's why a lot of it's a lusuary. Meet the Red Bull Dragonberry Emergizer it's one of the many new drinks out now who knew ice cold drinks could be so fire. Try them all only at McDonald's McDonald's is putting value back on the menu whether you're craving a big Mac McNuggets or sausage egg and cheese MacGridels make it a meal and save.

1:33:49Your favorite is now your wallet's favorite to extra value meals are back. Get a big something extra with a big Mac or 10 piece McNuggets fries and a medium coke all for just $9 limited time only promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing. And I'm telling you it's no different today folks it's no different today in 2025 where we're with a all your chatchy beat you we got Grock. You really don't have what you think you have what you have or glorified search engines. So they didn't really have robots in ancient Egypt. But by one definition they did have a tomato or is they appeared to be so. Appeared to be let's say real autonomous machines. But they were just illusions operated by the priests and to that sounds malicious I mean it probably was like when you go to a movie you know the movie's not real.

1:34:57But you lose yourself in it and I imagine that there were probably Egyptians that knew it wasn't real but they went to interact with their gods they went to interact with these days it's. That's just my assessment I don't think humans have really changed much in a few thousand years I think that we're pretty much the same. 3000 years I don't think has changed humans much at all I think that we probably still see the world in a very very very similar way. So from ancient Egypt to the modern day there's probably people that think it's illusion and there's probably people that think it's it's real. I mean look at look at what's happening in the world today with internet con artist is a lot of people that still think that's real is mass arrests coming and we're going to send. And none of that ever happens and yet people still believe it so I'm sure that there were some people in ancient Egypt who believe that these actually were living. Dayoties when they're just illusions and people are trying to explain to them.

1:35:57No they're they're not real they're not alive there there it's there's a guy pulling the levers no no no no no there's literally a guy behind the car is a man behind the curtain. And there's some Egyptian that's like no no that that other that other guy that. You're like a Egyptian name for David Wilcock there's a there's a guy though he's he's down in the he's down by the Nile and he said that these robots were telling him things about the future and if you just give him money. You know it's that kind of a story you try to explain to them that's not real he's pulling the levers and it's not it's not a real machine you go crazy trying to explain to people it's not real. But either way there are people today that. Have a hard time discerning what is real and what's not so. I'd assume the same thing was happening back in ancient Egypt but I also assume that a lot of people realize that this this was an illusion and so from ancient Egypt and these devices that were basically it was like a Mariana it was like a puppet to modern grok chat GPT search engines which is what they are.

1:37:05They're not alive they're just pulling from everything else we put on the internet and by the way you can actually if you don't trust that there are some accounts of this going back to 2000 BC. There are the statues or the statue that's depending on size that you can see in museums today. Where they have the arms removed and you can see how it was designed it's it's I mean you consider 2000 years BC not years ago 2003 2000 BC. Which we're talking 3000 years ago but it messed up earlier 2000 BC some 3000 BC which would be 4000 years ago but if you look at this and it might even go back further than that you look at these little these little things I mean they're they're very complex statues where the arm pieces come out and they have a system inside of them as you can.

1:38:13You pull on something like for example you pull on a string that is it's it's like run through how do I I don't know that technical terms for this but there's like a there's like a wound up string on a one appears to be wooden strip or wooden what do you call it like a wooden. And then peg that is attached to the arm and the rope is tied around it and it runs down to the body of this this statue and then when you pull it it moves the wooden. Pag and then that like lifts or lowers the arm it's like a what is that like a pulley system type of things he just pull it's really simple you just pull the string down below and then it moves the arms. And there's that you can there's actually X rays of this you can see inside of the the statue and you can see how there's a wooden or some kind of assume it's wooden device at the top and then there's a hollow cavity going down from the breast of the statue.

1:39:16Through the foot and then that's where the priest or the person would stand if they were all priest but they would stand they would pull it and the arms would move and it's alive. When I first read about that years ago I mean I was I was shocked by that because it's not a theory it's it's real and I was shocked by it more so because I was told that's not possible even though it's not it's not like some kind of advanced computer system it's just wood in a string is all that it is our rope but the idea behind it is where we get the later automaton from the later machines when things became more mechanical as we know them today then it wasn't a string pulling it it was more of a gear system that operated it. And then it became a little bit more sophisticated and then we started getting into.

1:40:21Programming it and then we started getting into. Modern technology I mean really what the ancient Egyptians were doing. Is they were building robots they were building a time and time they were just doing it. In a way that was equivalent to the the technology of the time which was still you know relatively speaking speaking pretty advanced in relation to how we typically see. The past but you know if you if you go to like a museum and look at Egyptian artifacts you look at that you're like I just know that I've been lied to in a way that is is really amazing that the lie has been so efficient. You look at some of the stuff in those museums. I mean they had like some of the stuff that I've seen in these Egyptian museums they had like. Was they had a whole like hygiene kits with like homes and brushes and things to clean the body with they had.

1:41:27You know like full writing sets that it was like a pouch that opened up and they've got all these different devices to write with and you know the the ink that they would use like really stuff that you would think that's like 1617 hundreds. No it was like ancient Egypt thousands of years ago. I mean they even had one of the coolest things I saw was a device wasn't really I say a device based on the definition of that word I suppose. A device it's not really device more like a container. But it was a container that was designed to act as a device to store breast milk. And when they would store the breast milk in this device it was designed in such a way that they could open the lid and it was designed so that you could scrape off the foam that would that would come up and form once it was in there for a certain amount of time. And they would scrape the foam off of the breast milk and they would take that and they would utilize that for medicinal things.

1:42:32And this container was this device was designed so that the breast milk would not go bad. I mean that is unbelievably sophisticated for thousands of years ago. Thousands of years ago they had like containers for breast milk that it wouldn't go bad in. How? But it's not really how it's like how based on I wasn't really taught anything in school that's what the house based on. And if you would have been taught that in school then it wouldn't be a how it'd be like oh yeah I know that. It's the same thing with these robots these automaton these marionettes these dolls. If you would have been taught that it's not a wow thing is the same thing with my wife when I asked her about the the caracurly dolls is like can we go see these sometimes she said yeah they got a bunch of them here there it's not an amazing thing there she learned about it in school it's part of the history here it's like oh yeah we had those. It's not a thing you even think about. Like a westerner learns that and then you have to learn oh we had those in the so called west to.

1:43:37And if you go back far enough into history humans have had these things for thousands of years just to think that the Chinese were using little wooden mechanical machines for burial practices in the 8th century BC that has to change your whole perception of history. Because if you think of you have to look at this in a in a very objective way you have to look at how in shine in the burial of the dead probably more so in the west was a much more sacred and ritualistic type of a process. And I'm assuming it's a lot more so than what we have in the so called west in terms of death the same thing with like you know the way that they treat their elders. It's a little bit different than it is in the west but anyway if you think about that I think objectively then you're probably going to put more attention and focus on. Meet the Red Bull Dragonberry Emergized it's one of the many new drinks out now who knew ice cold drinks could be so fire.

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1:45:47Death and on the process of burial so it becomes a very very important thing that it probably would make sense that they would put a lot of energy and attention and detail into constructing things that would be used for that process. Not to say that in the West we don't respect the dead I just think that it's more of like a stereotype that in the East the dead are respected a lot more than in the West a lot of that has to do with religion in the way that we look at life and death. You know where the ancestors the spirits you know are still very much alive in most Eastern countries and not so much in Western countries it's kind of been sterilized from that with the exception you know of your Mexico and places like that you got the day at the dead. So West isn't the right way to define it. But again I'm just trying to be very objective here so it might make sense why they would do that with these mechanical types of devices because otherwise the point that I'm getting that is you would think that it's just death you bury the body and that's it you wouldn't have mechanical type little wooden machines doing anything like that you wouldn't have any you wouldn't bury them with them there'd be no reason to do that it's just let's let the dead rest.

1:47:05And you look at those robotic things in Japan and they use them for all kinds of things and they weren't just used for the the royalty or the ultra wealthy necessarily they were things that commoners could interact with. And again it probably wasn't like these robots are running down the street every day it was more like you could see one on occasion which is just how it is today you can see one occasion I saw robot at a train station a few weeks ago. There's one of the sushi restaurant by my house there was a ton of sushi restaurants but one of the sushi restaurants by my house is a little robot that delivers drinks just like the old cut of curry doll. And then there's all the other places I've been where I've never seen one you know the I mean the mall that's right here where I go almost every day to get groceries they have a robot that rides around the store but it's not an Arnold Schwarzenegger looking robot okay it's like a little it's like a roomba so what they call those. Those those vacuum cleaners are roomba I think is one of the sort of brand I think I don't know anything about those because I hate those things.

1:48:12Roomba yeah roomba so robotic. Back you it's kind of like that but really tall or it's like if you put a I don't know if you put like a cone a cone shaped plastic top onto a roomba it's basically that and it just it's not even a robot it's just like a moving or a tie so it's an advertisement is all that it is so that goes back to how we define things again like is it a robot okay it's just it's a little RC car that drives around the mall with an advertisement on that's not it's more like radio frequency. So that just moves this little thing it's got some sensor so doesn't run into people it's not really that sophisticated. It's not really that complicated it's really basic thing a thing but if you're not used to seeing those like if you were to look at those videos from China where it says. Shided employees robot police officers and then people in the West a lot of conspiracy wackos are like oh my god they deployed the terminators they're going to start killing people in the streets they're just like little pieces of plastic junk.

1:49:25That are to that they're probably more of a hassle than anything else for the people that operate them. And you know you should be more scared of drones and you are these little robots some places they deployed those I remember I think it I want to say it wasn't China but there was a story in China similar to this if if both stories weren't in China but I read this story and I saw the picture they deployed one of these robots at a mall. And which and people did to it what I want to do to it and they just pushed it into the water fountain and it just you know broke it. I was I just looked at that I said which what a stupid thing people don't people don't want that's why don't think it was China because they're used to that it was some other country they to it might have been like some part of Europe. And people just pushed it into a fountain which is also the reason you can't have robots like that in American malls because people would smash them and break them not because they hate robots just because they're. Their whole against in their fools and they would just destroy things because they wanted to destroy things you can have those here because people typically don't do that kind of a thing but if you put those in an American mall that people would just destroy them.

1:50:34And not for the reason that I wanted to destroy them. I mean you think like robots they had robots in Tucson the university in Tucson when I live there and sometimes when I maybe I went the wrong way and I had to turn around I would end up because I hated driving through the university but I would drive through the university and they have you know a ton of cross walks because there's tons of kids you know well not kids but adults students walking back and forth and there's some parts I think it was fits was it close to not fifth street it's wherever the. The two son football stadium is it's one of the roads right next to there but they have a little crosswalk and they have it's like a small crosswalk and it's a place where I would always see these little robot carts you know driving back and forth when they're really small there maybe like a foot tall and they're kind of shaped like. I don't it looks like something from Star Wars or some of them are actual carts like they're really small carts they deliver food I don't know how much they do that at Tucson because people destroy them and steal the food so they can't deliver food but these little and these little robots drive that and I just wanted to hit the gas and run them over I think they're so stupid.

1:51:48Especially when you see someone I don't like these robots at the sushi restaurant side there because I look at someone put. I put a beer on it and they stand there and watch the robot go deliver it and bring it back it's like you could have done that in half the time. But then again it's like a cultural thing because that goes back to the carcotti robots and I think well maybe it's not so silly because if it's cultural thing then that that makes more sense. But the idea of standing there watching the robot go do something that you could have done in half the time that's kind of silly and stupid to me. Which is why I don't I don't like this stuff and it's the same thing with this robot that'll clean your house. You can order and I think it's so stupid because it's you know if you if you buy one of these robots you know who runs the robot. Some Indian guy that's who runs the robot somebody.

1:52:49And another country who is basically a customer service agent and they tap into your bot and do it for it's really it's really stupid. And the people that buy this kind of stuff because that's not for people like you and I was for people that are rich people that buy it just want to play with it. I don't think that they're buying it because they think it's actually going to clean their house they're buying it because it's a fun thing to do and they've got a lot of money. And then they'll just see what it does and then they'll put it away and it probably will probably never use it again. If you got all that money and you want your house clean you hire a maid and I have a maid clean your house it's so stupid. I don't think anybody's genuinely buying a figure three robot because they think oh this is going to do all the chores for me. No, some Indian guy is going to do all the chores for you you might as well hire somebody to do it for you might as well hire. I mean Mexicans are good at cleaning and organizing your house usually get a Mexican woman in there to clean the house.

1:53:51I'd rather have that than some Indian guy. Oh my robot being controlled by somebody on the internet and that's and that's what it's designed essentially to do. I mean plus you got to worry about people hacking it listening in on what you're saying. It's I think it's like $20,000 for one of these things. It washes dishes folds and and and waters your plants. You know it's it's really it's really stupid. It reminds me of it's it's like that there's an episode of it's always sunny in Philadelphia where Danny DeVito's character. He's like super rich his wife's his wife's a whore and she's also just like super you know wasp. And he decides to divorce her and he wants to live a life. You know without all the he keeps the money. He doesn't want to live in the big house and live with her anymore. So she they're having this this argument and his wife's you know yelling out even she says something to Danny DeVito like. Who do you think's what you been out making all that money? Who do you think's been at home raising your your kids and Danny DeVito looks at her and he says a series of Mexican women.

1:54:57And his friend gives him a high five is like a series of Mexican women. That's that's brilliant. That's who's going to clean your house these robots. It's like who do you think clean your house? You know a robot knows a series of Indian guys. That's who's cleaning your house. And in a way it's like kind of outsourcing. It's creepy because it's almost like it's like outsourcing. Slavery. Essentially what it is. It's not really slavery because you pay people you know you get paid a good lot of money to clean the homes of people that can afford this kind of stuff. But it's basically like outsourcing it. Your outsourcing it to it to another country to do it through a robot. Which I mean maybe that's a good idea if you you want the best surgeon and there's a way for that surgeon to do remote. You know surgeries which I still I don't even want to trust a surgeon operating directly let alone through a robot. Through a through Wi-Fi or something. They probably don't do it through Wi-Fi but something like that. I definitely don't want you know somebody operating on me remotely.

1:56:02I don't want someone cleaning my house remotely either. You know I think they have that option on PlayStation 5 when I set my PlayStation 5 up on Christmas. It was like do you want the option to remotely access your PlayStation and play games remotely. And I thought about that for a second I thought one I don't even know how to do that. I have to have like a handheld device to access it. That's the first thing but second thing I'm thinking is if I'm away from the PlayStation I'm doing something. I don't need to tap back into it and play it while I'm somewhere else. I just find this stuff to be gimmicky and really silly. I mean that's how I feel maybe you feel different. Kitchen and bathroom professionals know what goes behind the tile matters. That's why trade pros trust fiber cement party backer board to keep tile firmly in place resist cracking and held block moisture. Chosen in over 40 million kitchens and bathrooms party backer board what the best build on shop now at participating home depot lows and floor into core stores.

1:57:06For more information visit James Hardy dot com slash Hardy backer. The whole point of the show tonight though we started with the caught a courty dolls and we looked at some of these other. Robotic dolls as a chicie caught a curry small mechanical dolls and we looked at the silver swan but if we go back further and further and further we find that. The ancient Greeks had a lot of different types of these mechanical devices. The ancient Greeks had things that flew. They had things that were very similar to what the Egyptians had thousands of years before. And there may be some very real mechanical truth to the talo story. But it is not the first case of some form of a tomaton artificial not an artificial intelligent device but some. Commentators of historians say it was like the first attempt at AI.

1:58:10Even if it was a myth it might have been the first like science fiction version of that story but that's not really true because if you go back far enough you find this. Not only in China around the same time. With the young sheet robot or humanoid. But you find this with the flying pigeon in Greece with flying dove you find this with the water powered birds the Alexandrian engineers who designed all this incredible mechanical technology. And you find this in ancient Egypt now before we finish the show tonight. I think I've accidentally kind of skipped over this a few times I mentioned it and then I didn't go back to it. The nomatics of hero of Alexandria. You can read this online for free. And if you you go and type in. See which one I took up here is a couple of different websites that have this there's there's not many English translations of it there's some German translations.

1:59:12If you want the the English one I can send it to you I have a I have a link to it at some web kind of almost a random website but I've got a link to the actual text. And you can scroll through this and you can read about. Since chapter 28 29 and 30 and a Tomaton which drinks at certain times only on a liquid being presented to it and a Tomaton which may be made to drink at any time on a liquid being presented to it and a Tomaton which will drink any quantity that may be presented to it. A will in a temple which on being turned liberates purifying water. That's actually something that mainly peahol talked about he talked about how the first slot machines like Vegas slot machines. We're in ancient Egypt and what you would do is you would go to these machines and you would put in a coin. And you would receive a little sprinkle of holy water.

2:00:16And I believe that they probably had these in Greece but the Egyptians definitely had them. And they're the first type of slot machine you put some put something in it and you get so it's like a vending machine. You put something in it you get something out of it but a coin in. When a car put a coin with put a coin that was at Vegas vacation put a coin and I put a coin and I want a car put a dollar and I want a car put a coin in you get some holy water. Let's click on one of these and let's see what it says here. Section 28 and a Tomaton which drinks at certain times only on a liquid being presented to it. It says this in the book in any place provided with running water make a figure of some animal in bronze or in any other material when a cup is offered to it the animal shall drink with a loud noise. So as to present the appearance of thirst. The following and they present the author presents a little diagram here. The following is the construction a B is a vessel into which a stream of running water see falls in a B place a bent syphon or enclosed diabetes D E F on one leg of which must project below the bottom of the vessel.

2:01:28It's very technical underneath this let there be an airtight pedestal. This is like an engineering description and they have a depiction of how this thing works here. And then you put water into it and it drinks and it might make the noise of whatever it is that you just it's really cool. It's another one here basically the same same design or same idea but a slightly different design. There's another way in which by the aid of running water the animal may be made to drink on the revolution of a car figure of pond. So go God. Here's another one this one's a bird. The animal may be made to drink without the aid of running water or of anything to move the figure. And they show you how to decide you how to design that to how that's built. So there's no water moving that one. And this one is if you go to section 30 it's very very similar to the silver swan which would have been this was published in 1851.

2:02:38So that would have been what 80 years prior the silver swan. Let's see here the self trimming lamp. To contrive a salt trimming lamp it goes into the details explains how to do it. Let ABC be a lamp the mouth of which is inserted in iron bar capable of sliding freely about the point E and let the wick be wound loosely about the bar. It's not really that interesting to read that to you but if you want to see that it's a self trimming lamp. So like a burning oil lamp. Here is a wheel in the temple. This is just like a basic mechanism. It's like a hydroelectric dam basically. And let's see what else we have in here. There's a whole bunch of these things. Here's the one for compressed air. These you know what this reminds me of this reminds me of the ever burning flame.

2:03:45A lot of writers have written about the ever burning or the eternal they call the eternal flame. You find these in Egypt and Greece. We have them today with the Kennedy memorial and there's a figurative one on the Diana memorial which is the flaming torch. It's not actually burning. But the or the unknown soldier grave to there's I think that's an eternal flame. But there's a there's a very understandable reason why that burns. I mean it's it's very modern. But if you look in the old world. The ancient world. I mean these things were a little bit more magical and mystical. There are stories of people having opened open to room like a temple or a cavernous room. That had not been open for a very long time and yet the candle or the lamp or the lantern is still burning.

2:04:52Now that could be because of something internally inside of the earth like a geothermal type of a thing or it could be a natural. Could be a natural thing that could you know the context could be missing like you know you happen to come across this place that's burning more than one time even though you've it's 99% of time it's not burning but you happen to come across it twice. So it's ever burning. But but this is this is a common theme all throughout the world is the road street fire temples 500 BC priests would light those fires and keep them burning. You have in Turkey something very similar at Mount think it's Mount chimera chimera. The sacred fire of the Vestal virgins and ancient Rome was probably the most well known example of this. And then of course the ancient even the ancient Jewish temples read about this in Leviticus the fire shall ever be burning upon the altar.

2:05:54It shall never go out applied to the tabernacle as well. It's a universal concept a universal idea of keeping that fire burning which is the whole point of having Christmas lights and having fireworks and having things like this in the winter time. Burning candles and lamps and lanterns keeping those things burning because it signals that there's still life in the world. And that that life is being preserved which is why we bring those green things into our home plus those green things we bring into our home are magical because they survive the death of the outside world. So we bring them inside to preserve them to align ourselves with them. We light fires and keep them burning like with jack o' lanterns the scare way the cold and the dark and to welcome the sun back bring the warmth and the light back to the world. Now that we're past the winter solstice the days are getting longer again doesn't feel like it yet but the days are getting longer.

2:06:57I get a little bit happier every day gets a little bit lighter little bit not so much warmer but it will get warmer at some point. That's the the eternal burning flames though it's it's probably similar to how these mechanical things are described so I hope that you learn something tonight. Kitchen and bathroom professionals know what goes behind the tile matters that's why trade pros trust fiber cement party backer board to keep tile firmly in place resist cracking and help block moisture. Chosen over 40 million kitchens and bathrooms party backer board what the best build on shop now at participating home depot lows and floor into core stores for more information visit James Hardy dot com slash party backer. A lot of the stuff is very very basic like standard you can find it in a museum in a library history.

2:08:02It's just outside of some niche sources you probably just don't hear about stuff like this very often I find it really interesting and considering that dolls are a pretty significant part of human history. In regard to both entertainment especially for children and historically for gift giving dolls are pretty important for gift giving and also considering that you know some dolls are old dolls tend to look really creepy today really kind of weird and creepy and kind of scary scary. And that's where you get the uncanny valley effect this human like object or robotic thing it's. It's not real but it has you know the appearance of it it kind of is real. That concept is the what was it nineteen what was that nineteen seventy the uncanny valley idea was was first presented by Masahiro Modi Modi son.

2:09:13So that's a lot of history that is available and it's not lost and it's not hidden and I think depending on how you approach the subject tonight it might change a perception of history if I'd even change your perception of you know conspiracies a little bit. And also it might you might I mean I if you've seen something like this let me know but I would imagine there's probably some. There's probably some coverage of this you can find on the internet here or there somebody did this on a radio show or podcast at one point something similar to some mention these kinds of things and. This is proof that of a lost ancient technology it's not really proof of a lost ancient technology that the Egyptians use strings and would to move it like there's there's x-rays of the statues you can see how they did it it wasn't. It wasn't through some kind of advanced technology it was just like ropes and wood. That's pretty much all that it was. It was like a pulley system very very basic simple stuff that developed into what we have day although I'm sure there were people that believe it was very real back then.

2:10:22Just like people believe that if they type in the Grock. A question and rocking answer they think it's alive it's like it's a search engine. It's just a search it's not it's not real it's not sentient there might be sentience in some of these things but I don't think that. The chat GPs in the rocks are sentient I think they're like modern search engine it's like when the cell phone went from. You know dial pad to a touchscreen it's basically that. And just like those phones you couldn't take the battery out of them and just like these search engines they're designed to. Control the flow of information. And that's really the only thing that's changing is the restriction on information and making it more difficult to find certain things. It's just a glorified censorship search engine though. Anyway that is the show for tonight. I hope that you enjoyed it. If you have any questions comments etc email me at rd. GABLE rdgableatyaahu.com. Thank you so much for supporting us in 2025 tomorrow night. I will wrap up some newer recent stories but I want to focus on 2026 tomorrow night and then of course Wednesday is the live countdown to ascension 2025 not happening yet again.

2:11:32Just like the Y2K and the 2012 conspiracies and theories and promises and predictions it's none of its real. It's all fake it's all a scam. It's all doomsday. Hopium. Trash. I'm sick of it and I hope that it finally ends in 2026. I don't know how you can go on scamming people with the same story over and over and it never happens. And I think the evidence of that has actually caused a lot of people to stop paying attention to these online con artists but they just keep popping up. They're like weeds and not the kind of weeds that can actually be used from medicinal reasons. They're just like weeds in the sense of what a weed is supposed to be like it's a a purposeless annoying thing. It has no value to it. I'm just sick of it myself.

2:12:32I hope 2026 is the year of no more predictions of futuristic things that never ever ever ever happen. But we'll be doing that Wednesday live. First hour it should be me. I might have Mike D. I don't know if it's too late where he is. We're doing 915 PM US Eastern to just pass midnight with the countdown New Year's Eve. Second hour we have John Christian Spadavaccia. We might do a little bit of Corey goods court hearing for contempt of court, which I think is on the 30th of December this week. I think that's the date of it. So John will fill us in on that and talk a little bit about David Wilcox failed prediction for 2025. And then we have David Oatson to reverse the con. I'm trying to get Jay Weidner on as well. I will hear back about that in the next day. So either way it'll be a fun show on Wednesday. You don't want to miss that until then though. Check out the archive TST radio dot I N F O.

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2:14:34Looking forward to 2026. We'll talk a little bit about what that looks like tomorrow night on the show. Stay safe, stay informed, stay healthy. I'll talk to you on the next broadcast as we count down to the new year.