Home Theater Experience: Nightcrawler 4K

0:00Yeah, it's an hour earlier. So yeah, um, so yeah, we like tonight. We are live, um, trying to organize the show. Yeah, top of the morning, I was just talking about that the other day and they're like, we're trying to do a, uh, like Irish accent. No, I'm like, no, I'm Irish and I can't do it. Yeah, I tried to do it. I said, I go, if you try to do it, you sound like you're selling a box of cereal. Exactly. That's like, that's everybody's go to is the lucky charms guy. It's like, that's not an accent. What do you do? And if you do it over here, it's practically a hate crime. So you've got to be a big guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I was against it is a, is a, is a criminal defense lawyer? Well, that's the funny thing over even literally here. It was the same thing between the Irish and the Italians. They, it's free to wait. What's with the Italian flag on the hat? That's my hat. Yeah, the Italian flag, you know, I don't know. Is my, is your color not adjusted?

1:03You're going to have your money calibrated because that's orange, my friend. Oh, man. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Looking right. Yeah. That's all good. Yeah. That's orange. Yeah. See? It's got the little Shamrock there. Very nice one as well. What do we have done, these? I mean, you know, one doesn't want to, uh, there you go. You always, you always come in with, see, I could put it this way and I got it. It's the Boston, the, the green bee. Oh, this is my St. Patrick's day. Go to, it's like, oh, this was, uh, this was four pounds of my hard earned money spent. You know, it's sort of, uh, it looks like it's four pounds on your head. Yeah, it feels like it. What's the point about this? Is it came with a beard thing? Like a ginger beard? Well, I'm going to do this. I look silly. But it, all the fur was coming out of it. So it's covered in ginger fur. You can't six. I picked most of it off. It was driving me crazy. So I've had to cut the beard off because I don't even want to reference what ginger fur something. No, no, no, we're going to leave that right there. Yeah. And I'm going to avoid the Irish jokes as well because I've got plenty

2:06of them. I'm not doing that well because I'll get into trouble, dude. Yeah. I grew up in a very Italian town as an Irish kid I had. I was, I'm Irish. Um, Briggs is a is more English, but my mother was in England. Yeah. My mother's maiden name is Cofflyn. Well, definitely Irish. Yes. Yeah. You can't get more Irish than that. My grandfather. How far back? How far back before we get to a true blue, 100% Irish, do we go? My grandfather, Cofflyn. Oh, it was like, was 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Um, my, I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure what part. It's like he was an only child. My grandmother's father was an only child. I'm not like 100% sure of their history. We didn't really talk a lot about that. But their Irish and my father's side had a lot of Irish, even though with Briggs, um, that his mom, I wasn't, well, I forget what I'm not really sure what

3:13his mom's maiden name was. But she was, she literally looked like a leopard red headed. Like she grew up red hair, fit, you know, fair skin. Irish, Irish, what did she look like? Red, like a leprechaun. Yeah. Um, so yeah, it's like as Irish as Irish can be and every time like watching the town and all the references to Irish people and stuff like that, I'm like, well, that explains it. Stopperness. There you go. All that, you know, um, but yeah, I grew up in a very Italian town. Um, there's like three family owned Italian restaurants in the town. And then, and then other, I mean, tons of them. And then I'm Irish and it's like, we just always made fun of each other. It's just fun. The street, dead end street I grew up on is like surrounded Kalachis, Demelios, Voluties, Rosetti's all, I mean, it's like a genoa's the, I mean,

4:14it's like everything. And there are Briggs's and the Conta Dines. Irish people at the end of the street. It's like on one side of me was the Eastwoods. But the mother, her maiden name was Foluti and her father built the whole street. Was the comprehensive, the framework of the house builder that built the entire street. So you got, I mean, surrounded by Italians. And uh, we're surprised we had a healthy rivalry. Yes. Well, I mean, with the setting Eastwood, surely they should have just cleaned up that one horse town. Oh, yeah. Exactly. I always wanted to be Italian growing up because everybody in the town that was cool was Italian. Better, better food to each better food. Oh, yeah. Oh, what's wrong with potatoes? Yeah, they're good. But I'll, I'll take a lasagna any day of the week. Absolutely. And straight ahead and look, clean Irish jokes. Well done. What do you call a fake Irish stone Jordan says? There we go. Here we go. Coming in high. Yeah. Yeah. Clean way cleaner than mine.

5:16I can't tell any of my hilarious Irish jokes because, you know, they're not racist, but they're just not clean. Oh, yeah. So, um, so yeah, I'll play okay. Well, there we go. Yeah. So happy to stay all. Yeah. You guys even celebrate that over there with your history. Well, yeah, what did you love that? Yeah, but it's not like the troubles. It's not like that. No one, you know, you're not going to get it. Well, on the mainland, so in England, if you're walking down the street with one of those hats on that I just had on, you know, it doesn't mean anything to anybody. You're not going to get in 20 kind of trouble. Here, it's more of an excuse to go down the pub and get very, very drunk. You know, that's the same here. Yeah, but it's a studenty thing kind of, you know, people out, you know, I'm getting very drunk. It's not, it's not celebrated as a national thing here. Do you know what I mean? It's just, it's just an excuse to get hammered. That's what it's all about. Yeah, same here. And no, I've not heard of any, there's no, at least here,

6:20this side of the, the, the, the I receive, there's no sectarianism that goes with that. There's no kind of, you know, we're Irish or English, you know, that's fight. Yeah, there's none of that. That's it. There's, there's, there's got way bigger troubles than that, traditionally. Yeah. But yeah, no, otherwise, it's just an excuse to get very drunk. Yeah. It's between this St Patrick's Day and the night before Thanksgiving. That's the big, those are the big drinking days here and careful on the road. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, well, I was explaining to someone earlier this week about it, because I'd shown them that hat and the, and the beard thing. And they were appalled at the frivolity of it. But I was explaining to them, they're like, and this person said to me, is it even a thing over there? They're not going to know what you're doing. They're not going to have a clue. And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's close to America. St Patrick's Day is a big deal. And I was explaining to this person about the dyed river in Chicago, you know, dying it green and all else, you know, it's a big deal. And they were very surprised.

7:24But it's like, yeah, no, no, no, it's way bigger than it is here. And obviously we're closer. Yeah. Well, yeah. But it's like over here, it was like, it's the original, I mean, we're going through it a lot now. And everybody thinks it's unique. But the, it's the original diversity. It's the Irish, the Italians. It was, that's like the one of the original like forms of even racism and stuff. Like the whole thing Irish were picked on. The Italians were picked on. The Irish were, that's where we get patty wagon. It's like the Irish would fight. They'd bring out that. And that was the derogatory term. It's like, get the patty wagon to fight. And it's like, because you threw them in there, it was like, that's what you did. It was like, okay, it's like, that's where you get fighting Irish. It's like, and they were made, like in this area, they were like, made to fight instead of chickens. Like, you know, that kind of fighting. They were like, we're going to get these two Irish guys to fight. We're going to watch them. Okay. And the Irish guys are like, all right. You're not going to beat me up all.

8:26Do you just let me beat him up? Okay. But it, but it, these coasts in particular, well, I say East Coast, it's New York up to what? New Hampshire. So it's New York, Massachusetts are the real concentrations, aren't they? Because it's not into Pennsylvania. It's not up into Maine. It's not into, it's not down as far as Washington. It's literally, I mean, you tell me if I'm wrong, but this is as I understand it. You know, it's New York and New Jersey and surrounding areas. Yeah. It's mass. Is that right? Or not? Well, that's where the organization, that's where you would get the heaviest concentration in the deepest history. Right. And just because that's the deepest, pretty much the deepest history of the, of the, of the area, it's like when they started coming, when they originally started coming over, that's where they went. And that's where, you know, and then they, they settled and, and kept their roots here because Irish are stubborn, right? And it's like, like I said, if you listen to that Joe Rogan comedy, like when he does the breakdown of the country,

9:29and he's like, the people that left the East Coast are like, we're out of here. We're looking for a battle life. So they're not stubborn. They went. And then he breaks down where everybody stopped. And it's like, but the East Coast, like, nope, not leaving. And that's the Irish, right? So that's why you have the heavier concentration. But then to your point of like, over there, it's like everybody drink like in, it's not as concentrated as you get throughout the country. But everybody celebrates it. Irish or not. Oh, it's just fine. And it's like, you know, it's the original version of the melting pod. It's like the day, oh, we celebrate the Irish. We celebrate this. It's like, I mean, in my town, we had, we had the, oh, god, St. Rocco's was a festival that we had. St. Rocco's festival for the Italians. That was in August, big, huge party carnival weekend long thing. So yeah, it's, but yeah, it's, it's fun. And it's like, I mean, I don't drink as, like, I used to, but it's still fun. So I used to do. When the kids were growing up, I'd made like the corn beef and cabbage. And I didn't eat the cabbage, but I cooked it with it. Did the corn

10:34beef potatoes blow up all that? Well, I'm nice. Yeah. Well, I said, here is just Guinness. And lots of it. And, you know, everybody's just getting absolutely trollied. There won't be, I mean, in town, you know, I mean, I'd live out in the suburbs, but down in town tonight, there will be students and, you know, that getting absolutely off their faces. And none of them are Irish. None of them have been to Ireland. But that's all they need to just, you know, drink, drink the night away. So it's a celebration. It's not, and it's nothing more than that. You know, yeah, the troubles, as they were, are a very different thing. And even that's not, not, I mean, I say that is a 51-year-old, but, you know, and of course, I was in New Zealand in Spain. So I never, we never lived through any of the issues of the 70s and the 80s, whereas since the Good Friday Agreement of 98, and of course, I know it's 98, because that will get this stage. That was signed. Good Friday agreement. That's sure to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that Good Friday Agreement was signed on the day

11:38that I got a call from a chap called Rich Cowell, who was calling me from Boxed Massachusetts to ask me if I wanted to go to camp that summer. And it was the day of the Good Friday signing. This is how I remember it now. I know it. So yeah, it was, so that was 98. And since then, it's not been an everyday thing here. Most people certainly not again on the mainland. Most people just don't even, it doesn't enter into their consciousness at all. But, you know, that's not to be little, what came before. So yeah. Also, Andrew Panna says, my Mrs is a Belfast girl. Well, there we go. Nice, nice. There you go. So, you know, Andrew, you're going to know about the troubles then for sure, because there's from Belfast, she said, he can have some stories. It was in Asherif, Bristol magistrates court for a while called Trevor, who was an irate, proper, thick irish accent, you know, real kind of guy. And he grew up in the, you know, in the Shankill road and these block of flats. I mean, if you're talking movies, Deed, by the way, if you get chance to see the Jack O'Connell, so linking to sinners, the Jack O'Connell movie, 71, which is as in 1971,

12:44that's about a British soldier played by Jack O'Connell, who gets left behind in the Shankill road area. And the local provisional IRA, you find out about it. And it's a kind of struggle to survive. And that's a hell of a movie. I don't know if it's how readable it is over there. But if you get chance to see it, that's incredible. And this Trevor, this Asher, we used to talk about that movie and saying that's exactly what it was like. It's that's really accurate in terms of, and he grew up in that area. And he said it's genuinely, that's how it was. So yeah, so Paul Hertz, a massively recommend 71, great movie. Yeah, it is. I don't know what penetration it's had in the US. It's one of those movies that got slightly problematic politics for certain parts of the US. It's always, if you thought he could be somebody that's upset. Well, quite, yeah, but because of the nature of it. But if you get chance to see that, Deed, that's worth seeing. I doubt you would have seen it. But if you can find it, if it's on colliderscape or anyone else, you know, it's on Blu-ray over there, that is all rental 71.

13:48Yeah, just called 71. Yeah, just literally like apostrophe 71. I sorted it. It's an absolutely awesome movie. Yeah, there it is. Oh, it's an SD. Okay, yeah. It's from 2014. You've got it on Blu-ray. Yes, yeah, yeah. I told Blu-ray. Yeah, 71. British soldier struggles to survive on the streets of Belfast when he's abandoned by his unit after a deadly riot in 1971. It's an SD. Well, just check see if it's on Blu-ray over there. Yeah, I've got Blu-ray. So I don't know whether they released it on Blu-ray there. Yeah, whether it's available. It's genuine. You were seeing it's a very tense movie. And of course, you may have a slightly different viewpoint on it with your heritage. However, I don't get offended. No, no, no, no, it's not offended. But it's you might be more sympathetic towards one side than the other. But it's a very, very tense movie. That's what I think is interesting is I usually don't, I typically don't. And what I like is like if I see something that is like say you see something that I would assume,

14:54I would go to lend to my to what you would consider my side. But I like seeing stuff like that so that I can get the perspective and be like, ah, that makes it that makes sense. That's why everybody's fighting. Well, that's why they're against me. Really tense movie. There are bits in that film that will have you chewing your nails to the quick. Jordan says he doesn't think it's on Blu-ray in the US. I don't know if it's on pre-order. Oh, you can pre-order it because it's not available. So yeah, it's not. I'm looking at it right now. Is it on Apple? Flicks or anything like that. If you can find it anywhere a prime, you know, I do recommend it. That is one that's worth seeing. Again, just be well, it's so tense. And one more month, I just want to come back in a bit. Yeah, exactly. So good. I've got a car on all the easy. He's only young. He's not been doing many films at the point that he did that. But he's very rare. Can you see this?

15:56I hate using the computer version because I'm so used to using my phone. Yeah. Render by on prime video. HD. Let's see. Rent HD, 399 by HD. 799, I think. Well worth at least a rental if not buying it. I'll definitely check it out. Definitely. Yeah, it's it's it's it's you watch list. Yeah, you'll be in it. You might even be it might even be available just there. But like because when I'm on IMDB, it doesn't know my membership to prime video. So it might be available. Who knows? I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That looks cool. But that looks cool. Not a kind of rotary Irish movie, but it is a very good film. You don't know the Irish very well. I do you were going to say, you know, Rob Roy or, you know, someone mentioned Devils, who know far and away or something like that. It's funny. I will get we'll get to the show in a second. But I mean, it's funny like growing up, experiencing the stuff that I did that I thought was all like

16:59inappropriate or I was like, what the like I go to funerals. I remember the first funeral. I went to my father and my father's cracking jokes. And he's like, like the first time my dad told me a dirty joke. We're in a funeral. And I remember it. And it's like, so that happens. And then I also find out like I hate it at parties. Like you got to go. I'm like, I'm out of here. I just I don't say bye. I just leave. And then later in life, you find out like that's called an Irish goodbye. It's called Irish humor because like gallows humor is like I Irish humor. I'm like, aha. Like, oh, he's dead. Ha ha. Sucker. I'm like, what? And it's like when you grow up through it and you feel it and you experience it, but not know what that is. And then you find out that I've been living the damn stereotype. It's like it actually just like, it explains a lot. Okay. Well, the other thing with Irish food rules is the wakes. You know, they last two or three days and you know, and it's not a proper wake and that's as a big fight. I say that's celebration.

18:02A fight. Yeah. I've dealt with a number of clients over the years that have been arrested at those because not because of anyone within the group calling the police. Yeah. The staff of the pub or the hotel calling the police because it's all spilled over and some of the staff members have been assaulted. Yeah. Um, dealt with a number of those. Um, and had clients that are like, oh, yeah, yeah, I was in Irish wake. And yeah, on the second day is when it got bad. Yeah. Yeah. And it's fun seeing my kids do it too. So I don't know if we said, I don't want to repeat it on the show. I don't think we said it on the show, but remember Joe's wedding. It was, it was a tough part of that. And hearing my kids how they went through that and how they experienced it and how they were sitting around laughing and making jokes about it. That most people would be like, if I told you what happened, you'd be like, that's not a joke matter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause and we've talked about it since then, I'm like, that's what I was thinking. Is this too soon? And they're like, nope, this is what we would, and listening to my daughter and my

19:06son and hearing the conversations they're having. They're like each other's best friend now because they're the only like those two couples, like Megan Greg and Joe and Kayla are each other's best friends because they're the only ones that understand each other. Yeah. And that's part of it. Greg's Irish too, right? And it's like, and I'm not saying it's all because of that. It's all because I, it just happens. We see a Patrick's day. But they're like, yeah, we can't hang out with just anybody because nobody gets us. It's great. Yeah. There's a bit of that around a criminal defense firm. You know, the, I mean, the jokes that we crack about the sort of the stuff we deal with anyone else would be horrified. But it's just, it's how you get through it. Yeah. Shall we purchase it? Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. You're going to get to the new people in the chat. So let's do this. Yeah, we're going to get to the show. We have an announcement to make. I didn't even clear this with you before. But we've got an announcement coming up and we, we teased it a couple of weeks ago. But we got an announcement to make. We got lots to get to. We aren't, I mean, we can run late because we're early over there. So lots and

20:11we're early. We're here. Talk a little more into your home theater fans. I'm going to have bright side home theater podcasts, a multi award win and giving and receiving home theater podcasts. It's all about the experiences, the sights, the sounds, the scenes. Duh. That's your accent. Dussie. Well, you can try it a bit more if you'd like me to, but I'm not sure it'll come off. I figured you could. John's pretty Irish too. John's like, I think he's mostly Italian or he might be 50, 50, but John's a corny Italian, but he's very Irish as well. So, so, so fairly Irish, also fairly Italian and a Mexican wife. Yes, it's,

21:15I mean, talk about League of Nations. Yeah. Well, it's only three. But there's a lot more nations. But yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, yeah, that's, he's a conflict unto himself. Yes. Yeah. That's it. He's declared war in himself several times. Yeah. So everybody else to him is gravy. So, man, man, man, man, right. Yes, we are here. Let me say hi to one in the chat, Dej, if I may. Yeah. Just because, yeah, say there's a number of new people going on, which is called, yeah, you see the numbers today. Yeah, I'm top right now, rather than top left, I think. Oh, yeah, look at that. They've moved it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's winning. Okay. So Captain AC3 was in. Quoting, we think the town, but we're not sure. So we're not sure what that whether it is or not. Dom's in as well. Bonsoir, Dom. Yeah. Are you, buddy? Rachel's in. Hey, Rachel, Steve, that's in. John Ren saws in. Hey, John, who I've got, Jordan's in. Hey, Jordan vibe installs is dropped

22:20by Michael Piantado. She's in as well. I think I'm getting better at saying that now. So, well, hi, Mike. How are you doing, buddy? Paul hurts in. Hey, Paul. See you this time next week, Paul. Holds is in. Hey, hold your killer, mate. Yeah, man. It's a C big's in. Hey, C big. Oh, an old school kung fu film. Stick around old school kung fu films. We've got some fun for you. Now, Dej, I've got one for you to pronounce, please. Could you just do that one for me, please? Thanks, buddy. Pat, that capucca butter. Oh, come on. Now, that is good. Right. Smooth. Right. Very, very good. Well done. Wow. Could you say that again? It's easy for you to say, you know what I mean? That's a little waste. Brooklyn, you know, what do you do about it? Exactly. I don't know. I'll take a stab at it. That's good, man. That's good. Yeah. Blind goes in. Do you think? Hey, blind going. Dej, do you think there we go? Well done. Oh, he's going to worry about people

23:21shooting in for the first time, thinking that that's not an in joke. It is an in joke. Everyone would not be. Oh, God. Oh, my God. We broken each. Okay, we broken each. We broke it. No, I'll keep going. And I got to get this off my chest because it literally just popped in my head. And this is sick. Oh, but okay, we're on the wild bookers in as well. Very quickly, while Dej is composing himself. I'm, yeah. That's why you get to chat and you want to say hi and you're new. Looks like there's a number of people that are then do say hello. And also, if you would, let us know where you are, because we're taking people off the world. So yeah, if you hear for the first time or not, and if you haven't said hi before, then feel free to do so. Always good, say hello. Yes. Thank you. Right. Go on and teach. Kill on my job. This is here to go with the Irish humor. Sick. This is how messed up I am. Do you talk about like what do the way of how inappropriate we are?

24:27And I was just going to tell you, because this is how your memory works. And I forgot. I can't even say I forgot it. Didn't know it. Didn't remember it. It just popped in my head now. I had a dream the other night that I met Henry Winkler. And when I met Henry Winkler, I asked him if I could do a video of him doing just that. Just no thumbs. How sick that I'm like, and in my dream, I explained to Henry Winkler, I need you to do this because, and I explained the whole thing to him. And he did find it funny in your dream. Yeah. Absolutely. That's what I videotape them. And now here how sick I am is like, when you said, oh, we're inappropriate. We do this. I always like, I think I met Henry Winkler. Oh, I never met Henry Winkler. But I'm like, I was like, oh, my God, it was a dream. I had a dream. Oh, pretty sure that's Paul Martin Luther King, isn't it? They don't think I'm dedicated to the show. I'm getting drop-ins in my dreams for the show.

25:28So we got. Oh, dude, look, oh boy. Nice. I can, I can pronounce that one. Wild Booker. Oh, man. I'm thrilled about to choose it. Man's Field Mass. Yeah. Not far from here. Home of Great Woods. Okay. Great. Great woods. Well, it's not even called that anymore. It's Amphitheater type place. Yeah. I don't know what that is. Yeah. Chases. Chases. Be back, baby. Yeah. Henry Wink. Eat his own. What? What is that word? A bit worried what that might be. Do we know what that is? I don't know about. I don't know. I'm going to find out. I'm going to find out. Man, I'm going to do what it is. Yeah. Let's see. Look at that. My dreams are adding to the show. Oh, yeah. None of the, yeah, don't, don't know. Don't know. Nobody knows. Okay. That's okay. Moving on then. Moving to the other case. Yeah. All right. So what's out now? Glad you're back, baby. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chas might not be back,

26:32depending on how it appropriate. That is. Yeah. All right. So yeah. So what's our announcement teach? Our announcement. All right. Yeah. So well, you started. Yeah. Why don't you start it out? So it's like told you and the excitement that we have going on. First up, John, I mean, I said it before, John Thompson and I, we've been talking about this for a long time. And I've been him and I trying to link up even more to get this thing all assembled. But next week, what is it? Next to Wednesday will be the show. Thursday will be what you're about to correct. Next week, the show, we are doing this show live next Wednesday. And then then on Thursday, we have a special coming up for myself and what John and well,

27:35do we want to say the big name? Because I'm trying, I'm, I'm efforting to make sure that that is a big deal right now. Do you want to just talk around it then? Just so we're not, you know, because now I'm trying to make sure because I would really do want to, I want to announce it because that's what we're supposed to be doing and hang on a second. I'm checking with somebody that is, let's see. Well, put it this way. I could start with this. The, I, talking with Jim last week, all right, my, my, we, Jim and I talked a lot about ISF. We talked a lot about what's going on with the differences in what is important, right? What's the most important thing when you're looking at it? What is important? What's more important than other things when you're talking about your picture?

28:36And, and this is one of the things and we've, again, John Thompson and I have been talking about this for a while. It came up a few, like a month or so ago or two months ago when we were talking about eyes wide shut and people with, and there's a lot more that goes into the quality of the image of your, of your display than just like the 4K, right? And that's the fancy number that is, is good for marketing, but what else can we do besides that, right? So it's like, what, like too many people are putting too much emphasis on just that and not how much, like how important is for each pixel. So this, we're setting up a panel, John wanted to set up a panel and get that information out there that wasn't just him. So he, we went to a source. Joel Silver, of ISF, image, image and science foundation, okay? Not IMF, that's the mission impossible

29:41force. Yes, exactly. And as Jim talking with Jim, do a little about it and it's like you heard him and this is what we've been talking about for years. And literally one of the things I want to get into is on air is I have a question for, for Joel, I have a question for, um, we'll also have Andre from kaleidoscape. He's going to join us. And so he's going to talk about how important like these things are. And because his background, all the stuff is going to get laid out these, these expert Joe Klosnik is going to take part in this. One of my listeners one and he's been on AV rant. He's, he's an installer. He does all of this stuff. So he's going to be, he's going to be coming at it from, um, from the perspective of how, like what it's like for the installer, how they explain this to customers, how important this stuff is to get this information out there. But then you'll have like Joel Silver from ISF, like how ISF is set up way, way back

30:42as you heard Jim talking about this is like, it's like they didn't set the standard. If you heard me ask that question in that, in that episode, they didn't set the standard. They just showed how, like how we can define it. The standard was already set. But now it's like, okay, now this is how we're going to define it and show everybody that this is what it needs to be. So we can get that information out there. And I think Joel feels like this now that we're at a new point in the evolution of, of displays of home theater that we need more information and we need more, um, concrete information. I'm not, I'm not the expert. You guys all know, everybody listen to me. I don't regurgitate this stuff like these people do. And that's why I wanted to set this up. Not just me talking to John or me talking to, so we've got this panel going. And it like I said, John Thompson, Joel Silver, Andre, um, Joe Closnick, um, myself and Steve are gonna, and Steve and I

31:48are going to be there to just kind of go back and forth with questions. And we're going to be like, kind of like the, like you guys, we're going to be the layman. And it's going to be live 4 p.m. Next Thursday, the, what is that? The 26th, I think. Yes. Thursday, the 26th, 4 p.m. Eastern time. All right. And we're going to do probably about an hour, hour and 20 minutes is what we have it booked out at. And we're going to go probably about 50 minutes of, of like the roundtable discussion. And then it is going to be open to, we're going to take questions from like we do with you guys. So, so I like definitely come in, listen. And then, you know, get your questions ready for the end. Um, and then if, if we haven't covered anything, I know I'm going to have them as we go. And it's like, Joel is definitely a type of guy that's like, like Jim, Jim do a little or Jim Peterson or somebody that, or even John Thompson, these are the people they, they have so much

32:52knowledge, so much information that you can get into the weeds with these people. And they'll just stack on and it's like, and I'm going to try to like bring it to my, like I know, I already know I'm going to have questions on like, what did you just say? So we're going to go with that. Um, yeah, I gotcha. And so stuff, but that, I'm really excited for this because I think it's, and it's nothing against. And this is what I've said, time and time again, if you've been listening to me for years, most of the information out there isn't wrong. It's just not right for every situation. And a lot of people will tell you, this is the, this is what's right for you. Well, this is going to be a panel set up to explain stuff that's going to be right for everybody. And it's going to explain your display. It's going to display. It's going to explain like in how I'm putting it is pixel strength. Okay. So like you can have 4,000 pixels, you know, across 4K.

33:54But what's the quality of each of those pixels? And what does that mean to your, because like as John has said, as Jim Doolittle laid out a few weeks ago, you can have a 1080 image that'll blow away a 4K image if the pixel strength is stronger. Right. And that's, I'm really, really excited for this. John and I had set this up. And then I was telling Steve about it. Steve got excited. He's like, can I get it? I'm like, absolutely, because it's like, there's going to be, and I almost swore, but there's going to be stuff going over my head that, and it's like, I'm hoping that between Steve and I, we can help, we can help get more sift through more of these stuff. So people can understand and have a better working knowledge of what is the most important part of your display. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's very, very eloquently set out, each, but also, of course, the, and also there's going to be some things you can do to help

34:56your display as well, aren't there? Certain environmental things you can do to assist with it. So it's, it's going to be about understanding your display, but also some of the things you can do to, to enhance your display, other than, you know, getting under the, into the technical side of it. So there's, yeah, so it's going to be, I think it's really interesting. I'm looking forward to, and I'm looking forward to meeting the guy that has subdued the ISF, because that's been in my mind for decades. And as the, again, as the calibration standard, and, you know, and these are, a legend in the field. So I'm certainly looking forward to, yeah, to meeting him and finding out what he's got to say. Yeah, that's going to be good. Very cool. Yeah, exactly. They're the pioneers of, of bringing us calibration, right? So Joel Silver, Joe Kane, and they brought us ISF, which, and it's, that's how you looked for at least when I was starting, I was like, you want an ISF, you know, certified calibrator. And those were hard to come by because it's very strict

35:59what they, you know, what they're looking for. It's like very demanding. And to the point that, this is the stuff that even going back then, it was like first, first part of education is, once your ISF calibrated, probably going to look dim to you. Now this is going back into the 90s. This is before HDR and stuff, right? And now we have a brighter image. And I think now how important is that? How bright should bright be? How is that? How does this work? Like I have, I have listeners writing to me like, yeah, my, you know, my, my projector is so bright. It's like it makes me, well, that's a bad calibration. I don't care how powerful your projector is. It shouldn't be too bright because you just, you should dial it. You overspent for brightness, but you can still dial it back. You can always dial back bright. You can't dial up something that won't go bright enough to do HDR, right? So like, if you've got like a light cannon in a small room, that's fine. And if you're telling me it's too much in a small, it's not the room,

37:04it's not the projector, it's a bad calibration. Because all you got to do is turn it down, dim the light, then you bring it right into the field that it can do. That's all it is. So and a lot of people think that and like how many times you got to get a light cannon? Why? Yeah. You don't know. You don't know throw distance. You don't know screen size. Why do I need a light cannon? I don't know. One of this is one thing we've learned from the you're in store displays. You know, they're always set to touch mode. You know, the bright is better. That's what people like. Yeah, but no, no, no, no, that bright does not mean accurate. Bright does not mean right. Didn't did you hear that part that Jim was talking about? No, I know. And how like TVs going back to the 50s, TVs came out and he goes out of the box. That was it. That was like literally it was ISF didn't exist. But they came out because that was they were set to the standard. And then manufacturers slowly started and we talked about this slowly started to tweak it to sell their version. Right. So they would up the brightness by just a little bit to sell them.

38:08So they slowly got to vivid mode. It was like a one degree off from normal at the time. But over decades where everybody's trying now, I'm going one degree brighter off of them. And zenith is going one degree brighter off of that. And then there. And next thing you know, we have vivid mode as we know today. And we're like, that's not even close to what it's supposed to be. But for years, it was fine. But then manufacturers start marketing and marketing ruins everything. Yeah. Well, so we, we, we, you know, we've all got that person that we know, friends, relatives, whoever that love torch mode, vivid mode, whatever it might be, you know, they just, they swear by it. I mean, I, you know, one of my best friends will not listen to me when I go around to his house every time. And I'm like, no, no, no. But just won't have it. You know, it's like, well, yeah, but I like how it looks. There we go. Here end us the list. Yeah. Yeah. It's, let's see. Jordan saying, by the way, he's our early preview,

39:09X plus screening of project Hail Mary on Saturday. It's absolutely fantastic potential to be a top five home theater experiences of the year. Yeah. I saw that. I never got chances. All they were previewing it on Saturday. It was views cinemas. And I, and I didn't get chance to go see it. But yes, does look looks good, looks good. Yeah. I'm looking, I was actually looking to see that one, again, uh, cinema, I think it was cinema theater in this area. It's, it's an hour and 20 minutes away from where I am now. So Jim told me about it in the podcast. And I was thinking of going driving out there and seeing, um, seeing project Hail Mary on that. That was like the next big one that I'm like, oh, that would be good to see in one of those. Well, I'm toying with the idea, maybe next Tuesday, if I get to London very early, um, of seeing that in Leicester Square and the Dolby theater in Leicester Square. Yeah. But it's 30 pounds of ticket to see it. Yeah. But it's in in the royal box. It's one of these royal box seats. Huge screen. And I, I'm trying to talk

40:10myself out of it because 30 odd pounds for a ticket. It's crazy. But we'll see. That would be the first time I've taught myself out and then into something. What's funny is like if you do it, you can at least the first time you do it and you're like, now you're going to gauge. Was it worth it? And what if you come out of there going? That's worth 30 pounds. Yeah, but then everything and then you'd be like, now it's going to be terrible. Roy. Exactly. Exactly. That's what I find something I like. I stay with it. Because what if, what have you found something better? Yeah. Now I'm ruined. Well, yeah, because Dolby sitting in the UK is not a thing really. I mean, there's about two or three in the whole of the UK. And that's the one where they have all the premieres is in this particular place. You know, I mean, so yeah, I don't know. I'm going to try and talk myself out of it. I'm kind of in the same boat myself with driving an hour and 20 minutes west for a cinema that. What if I get there and it's like a 1% upgrade over a showcase here, which has,

41:12you know, barco projection Dolby Atmos, great Atmos, you know, all of that. You're hoping that if you put in that kind of effort, there's a big, you know, you get enough bang for your buck or your time. And if there's not, you're like, okay, I'm not doing that again. Yeah. So we've got shift the aspect ratio. Oh, nice. That's good. Yeah. That's fun in the theaters. Yeah. So, okay. Well, yeah, I'm going up to sit. I'm not sure. So Andrew Panna saying think awesome. Okay. Reviews all those thumbs down. Andrew Panna said last night. Awesome. Thumbs down. Yeah. Did you mean seen Project Hail Mary last night? Awesome. Is that sounds down? It's I don't get it. Like awesome thumbs down. Maybe it maybe it wasn't. Did Jordan say? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then Jordan always does. But he particularly enjoyed it. Yeah. But he didn't use the word awesome. I'm looking if he's quoting. I'm going awesome, not like maybe is that what Andrew saying? Which is fine. I'm not arguing with you.

42:15Andrew. I'm just trying to be clear. Like, did you like it and accidentally hit thumbs down? Or did you not like it? I don't know. Because that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you haven't seen it. We don't know. Because now I like to I like that. If thumbs down will make sense when you see the well. Andrew. Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. Is that like, well, it's the same. It's Ryan Gosling. So you got to see the movie loved it. Okay. So he loved it. Okay. Thumbs down. Oh, it's it's Jordan saying thumbs down will make sense when you see the film. Okay. I thought I all right. Now it's making sense. So yeah. And it's the same case. It's it's what I say, Ryan Gosling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's Ryan Gosling who he had the big thumbs up in Fall guy. Yes. Yeah. All through the episode. Yeah. Thumbs up. I am looking forward to it. You know, everybody says it's great. Had I had chance on Saturday, I would have gone to see it then, but it was not a thing. Yeah. So yeah. So next Tuesday, get to maybe maybe, maybe, maybe or I might see it this weekend. I'll

43:21see if I can't wait. Then it's been taken away from me because I'll have seen it. So I can't then go and spend another 30 pounds seeing it in a Dolby City. Yeah. So yeah. But I'm looking forward to it. It does look good. But there we go. That'll be fun. But yeah. Beyond the look out, supposedly tomorrow for that link. I'm going to set up the link for on YouTube. It should be going out tomorrow. I got to work on the graphic and stuff, but set up the link for that show next Thursday. It'll be going up on YouTube. Marky counters. Do all that. So I'm hoping for, you know, I want to I want some good questions. Yeah. Turn out good questions. Yeah. And again, just to remind everyone, the show is Wednesday, not Tuesday next week because Wednesday will become clear on the show on Wednesday on Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the plan. Yeah. It's going to be good. Yeah. We're exciting times, DJ. Exciting times. Very exciting. Very exciting. Talking of exciting. Shall we get to some experiences? Come on, DJ. I want to hear what you thought of last week's

44:21and then we'll do this week's ninja experience. Oh, okay. Where is where is your one? Yeah. Where's where's my the one? Oh, it's not under show prep. Here we go. Here we go. Finding it. Find it. Where did you put it? Oh my god. Here we go. We have rights. Okay. Come on there. All right. So continue your ninja season. All right. So here we go. Brace yourselves people. All right. We're talking into the ninja again. Very ever so briefly. So I took it in last week because I'm joining in on the ninja fest. Grow up loving the ninja movies. Just I mean, I had this, you know, the stars I had. I did all any weapon I used any. I mean, you could. I mean, it was a, a fad, but not a fad. It was just, it was an amazing time and history. Yeah. So much fun. Thank God. It was not my introduction

45:31to the ninja law. Steven, I have been talking like basically all week. Like, have you seen this? And what did I say to you? No. Good thing. I didn't because I don't think I ever watched another ninja movie. This would enter the ninja. It's like you need to see it if you haven't seen it. It, what were the audio codex? It does, it defaults to stereo stereo. You have to get you have to go in and go for DTS master audio, five, one. It is 4k with Dolby vision. Keenalore. And the way the Dolby vision enhances the grain and the bad lip sync is amazing. Uh, this is awful, awful, awful. It's, it's not. It is, but it's, but it's so awful. It's

46:34awfully good. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's just so bad. It's like, it's, the lip sync is so bad. It looks like English dubbed over Japanese. And it's English dubbed over English. Yeah, it's yeah. He's saying the lines. Yeah. Yeah. That's everything. And I'm like, why? How can this be that bad? Right? And then it, it also going into it. Like you said, it's like you laid out like, okay, so he's there. He has no ability. He has, he can't do it. And he did it when, when they were showered his face and he had to do anything that they, I, I, I use the term loosely choreographed. It was, it wasn't, it was like, just wave your arms and we'll fill in the blanks. Yeah, we'll come around it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. It was, yeah. But it is. It's hysterically funny when you watch it and you're like, this is what I liked. Now, I think if I hadn't opened with this,

47:40you'd look back at it and we'll talk about the others as we go through the month. But I have a feeling that and obviously with the next one, we'll talk about, I have a feeling we would have looked at that one. We thought this was good. Yeah. Because by comparison, everything after this is Oscar worthy. Yeah. It is. It's like, this was the failed first attempt. Was that good? As I said last week, I mean, anyone interested, you can look it up on IMDB about the, the, the, the, what, the wise, the wear force and the house this was made is more entertaining than the movie itself. And when you read about it, you realize why the film is how it is. But it, and so that's what kind of makes this movie so much fun when you realize the conditions under which it was made. I mean, it's not a complete bust. I mean, I like the ninja stuff at the beginning, even though, again, they're trying to hide in their bright red and white outfits in the green of the jungle. Oh my god. Which just was, I thought was very funny. And there's, you know, the injury stuff at the end is quite good as well, quite good for its time. But, you know, yeah, it, but I'm so glad I

48:44own it. Yeah. I am so glad. Yeah. And I will see it. That's it. Just not for a long time. I don't know if I'll see it again. But that, like you said, that opening scene of them running through the green field, like green gratt picture like the scene in, um, Rambo, first one, part two, when he's running through the cornfields and then he lights it on fire and stuff. Well, that's kind of what these ninjas are doing. But they're in red or white. And the one that's it, there's only one in white. And it's like, and he lays down flat. And he's like hiding. And the red ones are like, I was like, well, can you not see him? Because your mask is too high. I mean, you can't, I mean, the definition, if this had come out earlier, instead of saying sticks out like a sore thumb, it'd be sticks out like a red ninja. It's like, it was just obscenely dumb. Yes. Yes. You know, like, and I get it. Their ninjas dressed in red. You can't run into a field and throw on a green ninja costume. But it's like,

49:49I never understood even any of these movies. Why the idea of a ninja is like, it's, you're hiding. Why would you ever put on a red ninja costume? Yeah. You know, and it's like, and I even said, like last week, I said, the white one is like, okay, if you're an ninja in the snow, I get it. But I like the white ninja costume, but you're not going to hide in the dark in that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless they're supposed to be ceremonial, I suppose. I could be ceremonial, but there's certainly there's no suggestion of that in this. Or you're so good, you don't need to hide. That's what you're basically saying. Yeah, which case you're not a ninja, then are you? Because that's all about assassination and all the rest of it. So you're like, well, yeah, yeah. Exactly. We'll get into that. The next one we'll talk about. Yeah, they, but the, the other thing is, and again, the choreography of these fights, I don't think there was a fight that showed every single instance they had a fight, you could see them take a swing and miss by like, yeah, foot, right? They didn't even hit the camera angle, right?

50:53Where you'll be like, you know that it's fake. I mean, in real life, you know, it's fake. He's not really punching him. But these ones were like in it, one of the opening scenes, he swings and it's a side shot and the fist goes by like a foot away from his head and then his head delays in moving and you're like, this is what I'm in for. Yeah. But again, that's a film being shot by the producer who had fired the director after three days. And it almost felt like it was being shot by the guy taking the swoops. I just disconnected my headset. I can't hear anything. Can I hear me now? Yeah, I just, I'm so animated. I can't say I connected my head on your headset. But that's what I was going to say. It looked like it was being shot by the guy that was taking the punch. Like, he's like, all right, I got the camera. Yeah, like he's doing a selfie. Yeah. No, I mean, there's no getting away from the quality of the film. Yeah. It is part of the collection. I own it. Yeah. And again, I don't want to see for the next two.

51:53I've seen it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely sets you up for the next one. So do we want to cleanse our palette? Let's cleanse cleanse away. Cleans cleanse cleanse away. Here we go. Okay. So this is this week's entry in our ninja season. I've seen a number of other ones. I don't know you have as well, but we'll leave those for next week and the weeks to come. So this is this week's one. Yeah, this then is revenge of the ninja from 1983, which is, hey, Mikey, which is a follower to the aforementioned head to the ninja. Now, I say follow up because there are three canon ninja movies in this set. And you've got the same 10 I have. So these are three 4K discs. And again, same specs. It's Dolby Vision, DTS HD 5.1 if you select it. But again, anyone that's got a surround transistor, we should all be well used to checking when you start the movie. It's in the appropriate codec.

52:57So yeah, so there are three. There's this one. There's the enter the ninja and then ninja three domination. More about which next week. So this is revenge of the ninja. Now, had you asked me before I got this set, how do I see all three of these? I would have said, oh, absolutely. And I would have started with enter the ninja and then move on. Now, it turns out that this is the movie that I would have started with and not enter the ninja because I had not seen that film. And I'm with you, I think, had I seen enter the ninja first, the word ninja may no longer have featured in my viewing vocabulary. But luckily, this must have been the first one. And this is every bit the movie I remember. And oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, did I have fun watching this. So now they all have Shokusugi in them. Shokusugi plays, they're all different stories, all three. And they're all different characters. So there's no continuation in between them other than there are ninjas, which is a good thing after the debacle of the first one. So this one is,

54:02I mean, this is your archetypal martial arts movie. You know, you've got person who is Shokusugi who has martial arts training. He is an ninja. But whilst he's away, his family get brutally murdered. This is at the beginning. He decides to put all this behind him. And then, but is unable to and wouldn't you know it? His past comes calling and he is required to utilize his skills to set things. His past follows him to America. And there we go. Yes. And here we find ourselves. And so now, you can't escape your past. That's it. You can't, you can't, you can't, you absolutely cannot. You are who you are. You are. You are, you are, you're in once an ninja or is an ninja. And the rest is exactly as it sounds. Now, I have seen this film a number of times and watching it again was an absolute pleasure. And this is the biggest screen I've ever seen it on because, of course, I was way too young to see this in the theaters in the UK. This was an 18. I think I said before, anything would ninja in it in the UK

55:04in the 80s was automatically an 18 rated movie. And that means if you're under 18, you're not getting in. So this is the biggest screen I've seen it on the best quality I've seen it in. And I absolutely loved watching this again. Now, that does not mean, again, I think I said last week, is this a great movie? No, it's not. Is it a great movie? Yes, it is. Yeah. And I had a very, very good time watching it. So, um, how did you find about the movie? I mean, I know because we were basically live texting during this, weren't we? Oh, yeah. But what did you make of it? What did you get again after all this time? It is. What I loved about it was like, yes, is it a great movie? No, is it a great movie? Yes. So much fun. So much better than the other. I mean, everything you just said, but knowing it. And there was one scene, I forget which one it was. But remember, I said to you, I go, when the character, they would never do that. And then later on

56:07on in the movie, they explained to you why they would, and the reason I knew what what I saw on screen, I'm like, that's completely inaccurate. What just happened? What that ninja just did there, right? And then later in the movie, they had a guy explaining what ninja they would never, that's a ninja wouldn't do that. I was like, I told you, and then I said to you, I go, that, and that's how I knew it. I like, like, I had already, I've seen this movie so many times. But again, it's one of those decades. Is this the one that I saw? You're not sure. And then the opening scene and you see, like, I knew each kill. I knew what he was going to do, what the baby and this said that and all, like, all of that stuff, you know, and then as the movie plays out, you're like, oh my god. You know, but this was, was this the one with the elevator in it? Yes. When I said it to you. And again, this is spoilers. There's a ninja in it and he gets an elevator, okay? But I texted Steve because I'm like, a ninja would never get an elevator and use it as an elevator because you're supposed to be like stealthy. And it was even funny. And this

57:10is the movie we like, by the way. But there's the, I think he was in, was he in white? I think he was. He was in white. He's out of show because he's out. It's that one there. And that's what he was when you see him in his ninja outfit, because that's his family crest on there. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. But anyways, he's in the elevator and he's just standing there. He's just like waiting for the ride. And by the way, it's a class elevator on the other side. Like anybody on the old side going, there's a ninja going up to 13th floor. The op death at ninja on the third floor. Fourth, fifth, he's still going. I think he's delivering. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's an Uber. But I'm like, a ninja is like, because like the idea is like of a ninja is like, he's stealthy. He knows his surroundings. And it's like the doors open. You know what I'm saying? He's like, there's an ninja standing there. I was like, that's a lot easier than using those tiger claw

58:13things. You're climbing up the outside. I mean, he's just being sensible. It's pragmatic, ninja. Right. Yeah. But that's what a ninja would do, because that's the element of surprise. And that's like disguising. You don't just sit in an elevator and wait to get to the floor. Well, my kind of ninja. Oh, oh, lazy ninja. Yeah, man. That's it. Yeah. Why expand the energy if you don't have to. But yeah, I, yeah, it's so much fun. I thought the video quality for what it was. I thought in both of these movies, like I said, I do think the video quality was really good. There's there's some scenes that are sharper than others. I would say grain was inconsistent. There were some scenes you just like literally jump to a scene and you'd be like, whoa, that's grainy. And then you pop back out of it. And it was like, it's almost like found footage. It looked like, right? Like some of the scenes. But I thought the choreography

59:14was better in this. It looks like the stunts are better. I thought the final fight at the end was a little, that's not how they would like literally in a ring. Yeah. Like a MMA style before MMA existed. And yeah, but the fight was good. And it was. Yeah. And using the various wind ninja weapons as well, which occurs to me as I was watching another ninja movie earlier today. And yes, that actually is. Why would you if you were an ninja? So the idea is, again, you're an assassin. Okay. So this is the point. You're you know, you're creeping in the shadows. Do your, you know, your dirty deeds and off you go, right? Why do you need all these different weapons? Isn't that counterproductive? Surely all you need is a knife and a sword. And that's it. Why do you need to have stars? You've got to have a stick. You've got to have your your tongs. You've got to have your, you know, your half things. You've got to have your all that, you know, flame throwers. And it just the other than it looks. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:00:16Yeah. Yeah. What do you got up your sleeve? A flame throw. Yeah. So what's the, that, that also I think was quite funny. And again, if you think about it, it doesn't make a lick of sense. Why would you need all these different weapons? But anyway, I know it's great. And I loved this. And as I was watching this, I felt my inner 10 year old, 11 year old, 12 year old, whatever I was back when this came out kind of come alive. And it was just so cool to see this again. And I genuinely felt that childlike excitement watching this, you know, there's no question. So did Ninja console screen. You know, there's that excitement. There's that thrill. And it's so cool. I'm so glad that I've got this again. Same with the other one. There's nudity. There is a fair bit of that. There is and body stockings. There's a 4k reveals. Yeah. The gratuitous was, I thought was hysterical because it's like right out at the beginning, it was like the 80s style. She, she comes out in a shirt like a sheer looking shirt and just walk and you're like, Oh, here we go. It's like. And then, and then then I forgot about that seat,

1:01:22the, the bathtub hot tub seat. I like, when I say I forgot about it, it's not something that you would like remember the whole, your whole life. But when I heard it, and then they said like, you got to peel them apart with a crowbar. I was like, I totally remember that as a kid. I remember watching that seat. And it's like, and like, and the, like, how they, how they both got killed, right? And then, but getting to the image quality, that looked awful. The wound on the back of his neck looked awful, meaning like not just like an awful looking wound. Like if you saw some, it looked awful as far as like, like, how they did it. That was so bad. It was like, like, it's like, well, well, it's a blow dart, right? Yeah. It was a blow dart. And apparently, this blow dart caused a lot of inflammation because it looked like it, what was it like about an inch and a half, two inches, like a giant to hold the blow dart in place on the back of his neck,

1:02:26they used all this wax. It was like, that is awful. That would never happen. It was so gross looking. And then it's like, yeah, you got to see it. But again, this movie, much like the sharpie on a shark, it was never supposed to see 4K with don't be vision. No, no, absolutely. No, if you think how these were shot on an absolute shoe string budget, I mean, this was again, this was a pack of the cheapest, you know, a $10 bill. And that'll do, you know, I mean, these were shot for now. These, these are fun enough to each. I sort of review earlier in the week. I was looking at it and they call these movies exploitation movies. And I'd never thought of it that way. But actually, of course, they are. It's exactly what these are. And I think when you think of it that way, all is forgiven because you can't, you know, you're not making a traditional movie. You're not making the film that's a blockbuster movie. You're making a movie that has certain expectations with it. And one of those is it's going to be dirt cheap and it's going to look cheap. And that's just the reality of it. So if you watch them through that lens, like I said, for me,

1:03:30anyway, all is forgiven. But this is all about nostalgia. It's just that traveling back, that little boy that got excited at the name of a ninja, you know, is still in, in me. And it's cool that this place comes out again. And the other ones we're going to talk about as we move forward are all going to, you know, again, it's just just keeping it going. It's great. So I do, again, I recommend this one as part of the set. So you should get all three. We're going to get them and we'll talk domination next week. Then in American ninja again, then pray for death and ninja assassin. Maybe Jim Carter in there if I can slip that in somewhere as well. I also have American ninja too. Oh, yeah. Now that I haven't seen, I don't think. Oh, yeah, get on. Michael do the cough. Well, okay, well, if I do Jim Carter, you do American ninja too, we can elongate our ninjas season. We'll keep it going to the summer teacher. Come on with another ninja movie. No, yeah. Which is, you know, that's all good. So yeah, this is great. And this is the three. And I have seen the other one as well. The third one.

1:04:33Is the best of them. But there's still some cool stuff to say and plenty of good stuff to come. So yeah, I recommend this. This is a set. It's worth picking up. If you like us, yeah, if you like us, certain age, you know, of the eighties, if the native, the word ninja excited you back then, then do yourself a favor and pick these up. And I think you'll be glad you did. Especially if you watched them in the right frame of mind. Oh, yeah. The other, the other gratuitous, which is ridiculously gratuitous is when she came out and she was in like a white sheer t-shirt. And she had to make a phone call. But what made it so like, like obscene to me, was she had that little kid with her. Yes. Like she comes out to make the phone call. But if you see the movie, you'll know what I'm talking about. She comes out to make a phone call to call the police for help, right? Basically calling 911. But she picks up the phone and like turns her body to the camera. Like everything. And then the little kid is next to her. And she's like on

1:05:35the phone, like literally pointing her whole torso towards the camera to show everything off. And you're like, nobody dials a phone that way. What it gets weird to teach, because the kid is, is Shogasuki's son in real life. That is his real son. So yes, so it's all like it's very twisted. Yeah. Yeah. It should fight again. But if you think about it, but if again, if you think about who these films were made for. Yeah. Right now, I think they were made for us at that time. Yeah. You're 10 years to 14, 15-year-old boys, that's who the movies were made for. And they're going to give you what they think 10 to 15-year-old boy wants, which is ninjas and, you know, other things. Or 10 to 55-year-old boys. Well, indeed. But when they were making these, that's who they had in mind. Absolutely. You know, it's the, again, exploitation all over isn't it? Absolutely.

1:06:36It's so cool. I mean, I know one that has seen them, and I've had a few DMs for people that have now watched this again. One of the speakers, Danny, he's Danny. Oh, Danny speakers. Yeah. Yeah. Danny, I'm Twitter. I saw that one. Yes. Yeah. So he's he was going through them again as well, and he really enjoyed this one. He didn't like the first one, but he did enjoy this one. And so, you know, if you, again, if you are of our age, and you remember these, do yourself a favor yourself. Yeah, absolutely. Let us know what you think. I think you'll love it. Let me ask you this, Steve, when was the last time you saw this? Oh, in the 80s. Yeah. I haven't said, I've never owned it on physical media. I've never, as in, I say that, I must have seen it on VHS, because I mean, I like to say, I never saw it. VHS is way too young. So, but I've never owned it on VHS in, you know, in that way, certainly not DVD. I watched it on like HVR cable, whatever cable channel had it on. That's how we found these things. And the reason I ask is, these are those types of movies that we saw, we forgot, and we did our home theater thing.

1:07:38And now today, what makes it, it's almost like a time capsule of you get to see something is. And you're like, this is what entertained me. Like you said, it's made for like 10 to 15, 16 year old kids that you're like, this is what I found entertaining. This is what I was like enthralled by it like, oh my god. You know, like, and you could, and when you were scanning the channels or the looking up like on the guide, because you did get a guide mailed to you, and what was coming up even on cable. And you'd be like, Wednesday night, 11 o'clock. All right, I'm getting up. Hopefully, my parents are asleep. And this is what I'm going to watch. It is like, they're back to bed and up in the morning. Like you couldn't wait to see these things. It's like, and now seeing it today, you're like, wow, our standards were low. Oh, well, they're dictated to by the time and time of life. Yeah, but also I, but over here, you see, cable wasn't really a thing. We didn't really get cable here. I mean, we only had four channels until well into the 90s. So, you know, cable was not

1:08:42really a thing here. So when, when we, so you rented these two, yeah, so that was one or what happened was you had a friend, right? You had a friend at school whose parents were a little bit less, either less interested or in what their children did or just didn't get it or, you know, you didn't care or did care, which is very, you know, laissez faire. And so you'd have a friend that had them and the friend that had them would invite you around and you'd want to go around there, not to hang out with a friend. You want to go around there to see these. And I think that's how I saw this thing. And then from there, that's when the kind of the excitement built. And then, of course, my parents had the video shop in the 80s. So I was then able to then get hold of these as they dropped. That's how I saw American Ninja, for sure. Yeah, that's how I saw pray for that. Yeah, I rented American Ninja. Yeah, I remember, go and I remember the video store. I remember going in and seeing like American Ninja. I got to see this. Yeah, but that's just great skills. Um, great skills. Gates. I, I, the first time I saw that I burst out laughing. I've been

1:09:43calling that ever since. And it's very rare. Somebody goes, American Ninja. Oh, good for you. Deep calm and shoot in a couple of weeks for that. Yeah, I can't wait to get to that one. That could be okay. It's like, I, like, I haven't watched it yet. I'm dying to watch it, but I also want to watch it closer. I might watch it a couple of times. That's my one of my all-time favorites. Yeah, it's very easy, but they are. It's like, it literally are like a time capsule. It takes you back to being a kid. You, you fire these up and it's like, oh my god. And in your laugh. And I think that's the other thing that made Enter the Ninja a little bit more difficult because we hadn't seen it. And there was no, you know, triggering of your memory or anything like that. And it's like, so there's, like, almost, like, there's no forgiveness. You're like, I hadn't seen it. This is awful. And it's like, so, but it's part of the set. It gets you going. And then you move on from there. And it's like, you start seeing, like, oh, god. Yeah. I mean, again, time capsules are pretty phrase to use for it. It's exactly what it is. You know, you just feel like you're back there, you know, all those years ago, it's like that time

1:10:45melts away. And yeah, it's class. So yeah, very, very cool. So yeah, really, I just afraid I'm going to get grounded for watching it. Yeah, you dad's going to walk in. What are you watching? What are you watching? How'd you get this? Yeah, the wife walks in at the wrong time. And then see certain things. And what the hell are you watching? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's, I don't know. Whoops. Oh, boy. All right. That's enough. Let's get out. Well, we're good. Well, they're going. It's good. Oh, boy. That's so good. All right. Um, what do we want to, what do we want to revisit today? What do we want to hit on embarrassment of riches here, Deach? Yeah, we do. Do you want to, like, do you want to wrap with this one? How do you feel? Yeah, that, I mean, that's an awesome one. But also, we've got our reference one from last week that we didn't get to as well. So we've got that's kind of one we're going to want to do. Oh, you want to hit that? We should hit that now. We should. Yeah, we'll hit that now because I have this one as well. So we do. Oh, yeah.

1:11:51What am I? Oh, my God. What am I fit? Like, yes, absolutely. That's going to be a great time to be sure. Yeah. Okay. Um, show title. Um, so I also, oh, I have another one that I'll do after we do this one. I have checked this one. Okay. I did that one this week. Oh, yeah. Good man. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. So good. The direct sketch. Good. Uh, nope. Just the base. Uh, uh, kaleidoscope. Uh, all right. Where is where to it? I'm looking for you for running it. Yeah, I don't look at I'm trying to put them together here now. What is yours? Where is yours? I haven't, uh, it's left out on the left top. Oh, no, that's, that's all he's from a few weeks back. All right. Let's go to be there. Oh, nope. Got it. There yet. I just dropped it in. Yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah. I see. Yeah. Good man. Okay. There we go. All right. All right. All right. Restoratious salespeople. You hit it first. Um, and then I joined in on, on the fun. And it is

1:12:53abs. Yeah. Check it out. Okay. Right. So ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, this then is the 2025 remake reimagining of Stephen Kings. Well, we're sure I say Richard Backman's. The running man with Glenn Powell, Edgar Wright's directed. Um, now we have talked about this on the show before. This, of course, is the 4k disc and in Dolby Atmos. Yes. Um, and you took in the kaleidoscape, again, 4k, you HD and then Dolby Atmos as well. Um, now we did talk about this after we saw it in theaters. So we have touched upon the movie. And when I saw it in this theater, I did enjoy it. I didn't love it. And at that point, I seemed to remember saying I preferred the Schwarzenegger original just because of its campness and, you know, the fun that it had with it. Um, but so this was my second time seeing it. Obviously, first time in cinema, George, in 4k and in Atmos. Um, wow. Moving on. No, sorry. No, you want to be back? Okay, fine.

1:13:54Bit more, bit more. Oh, wow. So, so the movie, I, you know what, I clearly, when I, when I saw it first time around in the cinema, it's obviously you don't know what to expect. You just kind of, it just kind of washes over you. And of course, the theatrical experience we've talked about forever about. Sometimes it can, you know, the adverts people talking can kind of affect your enjoyment of it and the atmosphere as well. Um, so seeing it at home, I now realize what it was Edgar Wright was doing with this movie. And I clearly did not realize that after my first watch in theaters. This is a roller coaster. This is a ride. This is a chase movie. And I didn't fully understand that, that's my fault, not Edgar Wright's. I didn't fully embrace or understand that the first time I watched it. It's not I think until you get this superb presentation in your own dedicated theater room or space, whatever it is you're watching it on, at least certainly for me,

1:14:58that you suddenly realize what this is and what this can be. This movie is fantastic. And I loved every second of it second time around. I could not have changed my view of it more than I have watching it the second time. And you know, it stopped me if you've heard this phrase, the home theater experience in haunts the movie. Really? I haven't I got a right thing to say. That sounds like I can do it. Tag like it's about the experience. Right? Yeah. Um, so yeah, it's it by yeah, some cockatoo by Koala and running man is excellent. Yeah. So I got two or three. I didn't take it out however you make your money. So the movie was fantastic second time round. I really did enjoy it. And mainly because

1:16:02this is a for me hands down. This is a power mount disc by the way. We don't give power mount their props very often. And yet we should do because of Maverick and you know mission impossible, you know, final reckoning and all that stuff. We talk about waters, we talk about Sony and we talk about Disney, but we don't always talk about power mount. And so they need their props with this. For me, hands down, no question whatsoever. This is reference video and especially audio. The word I said was well, that that is it. I mean, I was blown away by this. It is absolutely fantastic. This could be. It's certainly my number one at the minute. This could be easily in my top five home theater experiences of the year. And if it's not, boy, if we got a good year ahead, this was fantastic. Right. From the beginning, the opening kind of musical number.

1:17:04Of course, it's a good right. So music's a big thing. You know, as he's walking to the camera, you've got the music planets. It's huge. All of sound. Then you get the standout sequence. There are many, many, many, many sequences in this book. The one that you get to first is when you first then you see the show, the opening of the show with Domingo Coleman doing his thing. Coleman Domingo, isn't it? Sorry, Coleman Domingo. Doing his thing where every speaker is given a workout. Everything is moving. There are plans galore. It sees running around. There's a beautiful pan where he runs across the screen and the studies talking as he does it and the sound goes with it. I mean, it's awesome. Absolutely awesome. If I had to, if you insist on some sort of minor complaint, maybe it could have been a little bit more bassy sometimes, but there's plenty of bass in this. I loved it. It's really, really good. This is reference. And if you're army and areing about the disc, don't, if you're anyone listening, watching go, get it. It's fantastic and enjoy it. Anyway,

1:18:11that's what you did. What did you think? Not that I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Everything you said and what I would like to add is what I was thinking through this movie, what they, they utilized a lot of it reminded me of strange days where remember in strange days when you went inside, they put the like squid thing on your head and you went inside their, or inside their head in the brain and you could hear everything around you and it twisting around it. The voices that were like, well, what is it? It's like the way that they use the entire room. And that was just in 5.1. And that was huge in the day. This one obviously is in Atmos. And what you're getting is the full use of your overheads, full use of your surrounds. The larger your system, the more wide open this is going to feel because what they're utilizing is, so like there's because of the game, because of the broadcasts and the way they're utilizing

1:19:14what's his name plate Thanos there. Josh Brolin. Josh Brolin and his character. When his voice comes in, when he's talking, when he's talking, it's like at time, it'll go from like him literally on camera, like, and you'll hear first person and it's anchored to the front of the screen or the front of the room. And then they go to Glenn Powell's character. And it's like now Josh Brolin's voice is like behind you and over you or wherever it is in wherever the case may be, because he's coming through a speaker in that area and he's talking to him the way they utilize that. And then as as Glenn Powell's like turning, the voice is turning with it. And it's just the sound design for this to your point was like it is refer, they use the sound to move you in the room. It felt like the room was pivoting around you at times. And it was like, it really did feel like back in the day, like when strange days came out, that was like nobody had done that at

1:20:17the time. Nobody that was like, oh my god, voices behind me, voices this. And it's like the echoing and all of that. Now it's to for them to do that in the running man, you're just like, oh my god, it's and what's fun is you're as you're sitting there and listening to this, you're like, how come nobody's done it like this? You know, that to me is what's amazing just when you think you're like movies have done haven't they've done it all, right? We got gravity. We've got this. We got that. We got movie of the year. We're looking at, you know, Tron Aries. They did a great job or this year, you know, Predator Badlands, you're like, oh my god. And they're like, what else can they do? And like I say, like, we need speakers on the floor. If we're going to, you know, if we're going to like, you know, be pioneers of the future and do something different, we need more speakers. And then the running man comes out and you're like, I don't think I've ever heard it used quite that way. And that's what makes it fun. That's what made all of that fun. That's just the audio side of it. Right? It's to your point, like the picture of it, the quality of there's

1:21:24the vibrancy of the colors, the saturation, everything like that. It's like, it's a very vibrant to his disc. But it also has a lot of, there's a lot of dark scenes, a lot of great detail in the shadows. And it's like, where you're looking to the side, like, where you're looking at the mailboxes, but look to the side because you're always looking like, what's next? Who's there? What's that? And there's a lot to behold, if you will. And there's so much to this, like you said, it's like, I'm having a hard time between one, between, I got drawn as number one. I have this as number one. And it's like, I literally, as of right now, if we had to make the call, I'd have to watch them both back to back and see where I feel because they both did something right now for me where they used the technology to not only enhance the movie, but to be part of the movie. And you know what I mean? Which, that to me, it's like, as we do this year after year, it's not just to win the home,

1:22:27you know, bright side home theater, or what, for home theater experience of the year, you got to do more than just have good at most. It has to be a part of the movie because we're, you know, we're getting a little bit more particular about our experience. We don't just give away those Freddy's, but no, no, not at all. Dogs barking over here. Yeah, yeah. Okay. No worries. You're right. I can hear the, yeah. I mean, for me, it's this, well, there's another film we might very quickly touch on in a minute, hopefully, just because I want to, you know, give that a props as well, which is one that you've already reviewed. But for me, this is this is one certainly more than I have to be over areas because this is also a really good film. Whereas Tron Aries is for me, not a great movie. True. This is a good film and a reference experience. True. It's always that bit more for me. It's why sinners were so high. Why F1 was so high for me last year. It's a good movie and an excellent experience. Yeah, F1 was looking at Academy Award for Sound. Sound, yeah, yeah, yeah, and rightly so. Yeah, we called it first. Absolutely. Absolutely. And of course, F1 has already ended Oscar.

1:23:31We know which one they want more. Yeah. And it's not Yoska. And Sin is, of course, for cinematography, Deach, see? We called it. I mean, we're here. That was it. So, although John Thompson's not happy about that one. No, well, no, no, no. Is he ever? No, yes, yes he is. So that's how you know you have quality if he likes it. Yeah, not quite. But yeah, no, this is great. I was so pleased with this. I put this on as a on an evening kind of thinking, well, it'll be like the cinema, you know, I'll enjoy it, but it's not going to be great. Yeah, it's fine. I know one was more pleased than me when I when I just started this one. It was like, this is really good. And I'm well honest. So yeah, it was very cool. So yeah, great stuff. Heidi recommended. Well worth picking up. There it is. That's a little Freddy in the corner. There we go. There we go. Hey Fred. Hey Fred. Hey Fred. There we go. Yeah, so very cool. But whilst we're talking about then, very cool, Dieter, can I,

1:24:32do you mind if I just quickly talk the the one that I'm sure you gathered that is a ultra reference? I would watch this week that you've seen. You'll know surely. There we go. There we go. Okay. Let me just quickly talk. I'll do this quick. I promise. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. I'm good time. There we go. There we go. Okay. So only because we've just been talking reference. Yeah. I thought I'd better talk less. So this for those that are listening, those watching is Ben 4K, UHD Tisk, Disks and Dolby Atmos, which I have imported from the U.S. I could not wait any longer after DGU had said everything you'd said about it and everybody else had said how good it was. And it's not out here until next week. And bizarrely, because it's two discs, I think it's 26, 99 here. And because it's been out in the U.S. for a few weeks and because Amazon, I like that. They have dropped the price. And so I was able to get it from the U.S.

1:25:35Have it shipped to the U.K. And it was five pounds cheaper than waiting for the English Disks next week. So I got it. Wow. And I got it cheaper. Yeah, it's crazy. But it's true. So, I had an unexpected day off yesterday. I'd forgotten I booked the day off. And so this arrived on Friday. I think it was. And I thought, you know what? Perfect. I've got a day. I can I can do this. And I was down in the cinema room at 830 in the morning, put this on and just let it fly. And I managed to see the whole thing in one. And setting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And obviously that changed the disc. But yeah. Now I had never seen this all the way through. Now I knew that before I sat down to watch it. Yeah, because it's too it's just too long a movie. When you tune into this TV, you catch a little snippets of it. And I had never seen it. So this was a not all the way through. So this was a very interesting exercise. And I have to say, I didn't know if I would engage with the story. I didn't know how

1:26:37cheesy it would be, how old school it would be. Would it engage me? Answer. Yes. Very much show. And by the way, may I just say, and one hates to criticize George Lucas on this show, because we love George. Yeah. But in this movie, and I did a time stamp on it, right? So you've got it. You've got the the prelude. I think I know what you're talking about. You've got your prelude. You've got, which is probably about five, six minutes, you know, you're you know, you're on court. Then you've got thing now at the 35 minute mark. Bear in mind, you had your you're opening into, you know, whatever you want to call it, the prologue, right? Yeah. Then you go into the story at the 35 minute mark. The director and writer of this movie have managed to create two brothers to all intents and purposes that in 35 minutes have shown warmth, shown a love for one another

1:27:38platonically, of course, and then split them, you know, more convincing way in 35 minutes than poor old George managed in about what two, four, six, seven and a half, eight hours with the prequels between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Now, frankly, George would have been well advised to have watched this. Before writing episodes one, two and three, I'm sure you think it feel what I'm sure you had, but you feel the warmth between these two. You see that you kind of you in the most efficient of dialogue. Yeah. You know what their backstory is. You feel the warmth between them. You feel their their their reflection for one another. And then you see it shattered in 35 minutes and you feel that tragedy in a best way. Yeah. Yeah. Go on. Sorry. I was just I was interrupting. Yeah. But yeah, that's I mean, I I didn't even think of it that way. I didn't think of like exactly. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know like the scenes you're talking about

1:28:41and how it it does is great character development of to give you that feel which does play out the other three hours. Yeah. Well, exactly. But that tragedy of the brother of the shattering of the brotherhood, very Shakespearean, by the way, that shattering of the brotherhood, the tragedy of the watching. Right. And true. But this but this idea of of brothers, torn a sunder and then the effect of that fracturing on everything else around them. And then I mean, in Star Wars, of course, it's galactically, but in this, in terms of the the ramifications for the entire Judea and wrote there is is is something that that is so heavily done in 35 minutes that I was struck by how good that was. Anyway, so the story ripped along three hours and 45 minutes raised by I was never bored. I was never struggling to kind of keep with it bearing in mind. It was 1959. So culturally, there may be story issues, but there were not. I was engaged

1:29:44through out and I felt that sense of loss as it carried on. It flew by way more quickly than it should have done. Yeah. I thought the story was excellent. Now, the only thing and the only problem with it is it's so damn long. So, of course, because I'd like to watch this again and again and again, but trying to find four hours. Yeah. He's not going to be easy. That's the only that's the only downside. Now, the only thing more excellent than the story again, you've got your post-it note there, Deach. Yeah. He's home theatre experience. Yes. Absolutely. Sometimes the word reference is it long enough. And I think this is one of those times. I was just dumb struck by how this looked. The opening concert you now you get and that's interesting. It allows you into a bit of a false security because the prologue, of course, is just the close-up

1:30:45on the David in touching the hand and there's print waiver in there and you can see some swimming in the image and it's not very sharp and all that stuff. And of course, that's on for about six or seven minutes as a music place. Music, beautiful, by the way, will come onto that in a minute. So, it's quite soft and there is some swimming in the image and there's some grain and you think, you know, okay, it's an old movie. And then it just snaps to this image of the Roman soldiers and this line of soldiers and people into back and with the reds and everything else and my jaw hit the floor. It was like, oh, and of course, helped by the ultra-wide ratio. But it was just like, oh my god, I was not ready for that. And on and on it goes. And when you get to the chariot race, how they film that, how they were allowed to film that, I do not know. But it's just, it's phenomenal. And you can lose yourself. Look, I'd like to think I am a heterosexual male, but I have to say,

1:31:45you like to think that it's blue eyes. I like to think so, as anyone knows. I like to think it, I don't know if it's true, but I think after this, I'm engaged into Charlton Heston's blue eyes for hours. You know, I mean, they're not, but I would. Yeah. I mean, wow, wow, wow. So it looks amazing. Now, it looks fantastic. Then the sound. Now, I mean, I dread to think how much money they've spent on this. This is not a hit the Atmos button. Right from the opening music, you feel as though you were in this auditorium, this ginormous cavernous space, the music flut. And I played your game, Deach, actually, I played your game on this. Of course, the internet, nothing's happening apart from the music, right? Yeah. And is that scary? No, I played the game, you and Jen's game of place the instrument. Yes, in the sound field. Where is it? Yeah, right. And it's a game you can play with this. Yeah, perfectly. Well, because you like trumpets there. Okay, right strings there. Okay, close your eyes. Yeah.

1:32:50Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's fantastic. And all the way through it, you get this beautiful music. You get bass during the, the, the, the horse scene, although the chariot race, although the biggest one was the storm towards the end. So obviously, spoiler about people, Christ gets crucified, right? Yeah. Sorry. 2000 year old story. But you know, it was a Patrick Stewart's fault. No, true. He's not in this. They're goodness, right? I don't know when she's with that. When that storm happens, you get over the, in your overhead, you get this thunderous bass. You get some, I was a bit worried the scene was going to come in. Well, where is this? Yes. Wasn't that amazing? That wasn't that amazing. I came out of this theater. And I, I walked into the kitchen. And I think Larson, the girls are out there or something. I was like, I, yeah, Jesus just died. Because the whole house, it was like, it was like, I mean, it, what that is talking about. There's, you know, bass sweeps there, the thunder that, I mean,

1:33:54Carl, if you haven't seen this, Carl, I was worth it. If you haven't seen, there you go, that you've got to get that clip and just wake, put that on every night. Like if you could get the clip, that'll wake you up every morning. You'll be a happy camper. Absolutely. Foundations. Thank you. But yeah, it's amazing. This is superb. This people, you know, this author's out there. This is how you do it. Yeah. Let's have more of this, please. Now I've got the 10 Commandments on Blue 4K disk, which I've not seen. And I almost saw this week. And that's four hours. Yeah, just under four. And it's only DTS HD 5.1, but it is 4K. And of course, it will be Panavision, Technicolor, same as this, I'm sure. But this is an exceptional disk. And again, it's got to be in the top five. It's got to be, if not number one, it has to be between this and the running man and Tron Aries and Predator Badlands and we're only in the second week of March. Yeah. It's, you know, I mean, what a year. Yeah. It's, yeah, I was,

1:34:59I actually, it was like, what is 10 Commandments? Yeah, 351. I'm looking at it right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's three years earlier than Ben Hurr. Yes. Yes. So Charles has to again, of course, is Moses. And it's, it's that's another epic that's, I've watched it before. I've seen the 4K. And that's Cecil B. Demail, isn't it? This is what you're wired to. What? Yes. Yeah. And I've talked about that on the show before in 10 Commandments. And the show, like you see the backdrop of Egypt and stuff and you could tell like the green screen, you could see that in Ben Hurr too. You could see the, yeah, the edging around people and stuff of what they're using. So again, not supposed to, this was never supposed to see 4K HDR, but it, what we're getting. And this is a question for next week. But these movies that were talking about like 10 Commandments, Ben Hurr, Spartacus, Lawrence of Arabia, all of these movies are not only

1:35:59blowing away our expectations for an older movie, but the quality and depth of picture, like the, the, the saturation of color and everything. It's rivaling stuff from today, right? Like what's the best cameras today and the best abilities we have today? This is rivaling it. And I touched on a little bit with Jim, but it's like when you take the negatives from these movies, how much information? Because you remember the, there's no pixel count in a negative. It's that what you get is what you shot. That's when cinematography was so important, because it wasn't digital. It wasn't, you, you literally paid for every frame. So it's like, and you had to get your shot before the sun went down. There was no like, are we going to adjust this and post that we can do that? So everything was so important. And the quality of the negatives that they're, they're using, I think they're able to pull out more information. It feels like, and this is a, you know, Carpenter's version of it, but it feels like they can pull

1:37:02out more information from Benhur, Spartacus, Lawrence of Arabia than they can live with today's cameras. You see what I mean? It's like the depth that we're getting. And it's like, now that goes into a controlled environment, when you can have a negative that's shot so well, and you have so much information in that negative, is that what enables them to reproduce these today and put a dead-on balls accurate pixel in every pixel on your screen. And is that the, you know what I'm saying? Whereas when you shoot it today live, you're, you're, the quality that you're going to get is what you're getting there where this is a, this is like a controlled environment. You have a negative with the information, and it has a ton of information. So you can take every ounce of information and put it into each and every pixel. Is that what's going on here? Seems to be, I mean Paul saying, yeah, don't forget a good number of them will shot 65

1:38:02millimeter. So of course, it's this, you know, huge negative with all this stuff that's there. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I wish I could explain it. I wish I understood it. And this might be something to talk about. Absolutely. It's joll as well. Yeah. In terms of kind of how, how this then can, can rival a movie from today? Yeah, bearing in mind the quality, I mean, it's exceptional. It is so good. I can't, I don't have the visual language, the vocabulary to describe the superatives, to say how good this is other than to just say just chuck it on the biggest screen you can make choice calibrated. Hopefully you've got that must and just enjoy it. Yeah. And it's basically what we said about all these restorations from this time. Right? Yeah. I mean, it's, this isn't the first one, but you know, and I'm not saying it's better than those, but you can't stop praising it. Even though we've seen, like I said, like all of these other ones that have come before it, where you're like, it's just so, so rich in everything, you know, so. Yeah. Yeah. And again,

1:39:09feel, you know, again, just feel free to get lost in Charlton's blue eyes. There you go. You don't just get these blue eyes. Oh, yeah. Great. Great. Great. All right. All righty then. That was a quick one. Yeah. Yeah. Good thing you went quick with that one, Steve. That's like our old 10 minute segments between 10, 45 minutes, 45 minutes later. No, but mine, the conversation we had before and after we recorded. Indeed. Let's see. What do we want to hit? Do you want to do, do you want to do the show title now? Yeah. I don't know. Save some of my other ones for next week that I have. It's up to you, man. Do you want to? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me actually, let me hit on this one really quick because it is a newer one. I don't know if you've even heard of this one. So, let me see. Let's see. What's it on? I think it's on. Here we go. I'll bring it up. Boom. So Marshall's one case spin off. Yeah. Spin off from Yellowstone. It's a new, it's a time

1:40:15CBS weekly, but it's I stream it. I think is it on Paramount? Is that whatever one? It would seem to be CBS. It's going to be. It's Paramount, whatever, but I'm doing the streaming. There's three episodes out now. I took in the first episode. I haven't finished Yellowstone. And if you don't want spoilers, don't start this. If you haven't finished it, I don't mind. So there's some stuff that like in the exposition at the beginning of this, they explain what happened to this is a story with Casey from Casey Dalton from Dutton from Yellowstone becomes a Marshall. If you know Yellowstone, you know Casey, you know the whole story, whatever. But I haven't finished it. I know who Casey is. I was really kind of, you know, excited for the show because I like Yellowstone. So I took in the first episode. And the reason I want to talk about is it's freaking gorgeous. The imagery that they show. It's like, I mean, this and again, this is network TV, shop for network

1:41:20streaming on Paramount Plus. I do, it was no commercials or whatever. And looking at the imagery that you talk, this is Montana, the landscape shot, everything, the sun coming up over the hills, everything was absolutely gorgeous. It is gunfire in this. Great. It's, you know, PCM and up to up mixed. It sounds great in the room. But I'm telling you, I mean, this is, I'm considering this stuff almost at a level below streaming. If that makes me because it's not like a streaming. So this is shot for network television, right? But now I'm watching this. And I'm like, it's crisp. It's strong. It's vibrant. It's, it's clean. It's, it looks beautiful. And I'm just like, you just came out with just, just a first episode dropped like the beginning of the month, much first or something like that. So it's brand new three episodes around. I only took on,

1:42:21and it, and it's three weeks old. That's why three episodes are out. So okay. But if you're a fan of Yellowstone and you want to check it, it, it, and home theater wise, it is gorgeous. So I just wanted to mention that. So, but yeah, it was it. It's like, I'm yet to start Yellowstone. I need to. I'm still hoping they're going to release them one in 4K. Yeah, I just dropped them all in 4K. Well, that's it. I have them all in colliderscape in 4K. I know someone that's itching to see them. Oh, yeah. So I do want to, I do want to see them. Yeah. All right. Let's get to our last and show title for the week. Here we go. Yeah. Okay. So this then is the, let me see, 2014, 2013, something more to, I believe. 2014. Yeah. Movie Nightcrawler, the Jake Gyllenhaal starring movie. This is one that I imported

1:43:24from the US ordered at the same time as Ben Herb. By the way, they came a couple of days apart. This is a steelbook release, but in 4K, UHD and in Dolby Atmos, which is interesting. And yeah, so it dropped and, you know, I watched it pretty much straight away. I think that picture does it a bit of a disservice. That kind of makes it like a fast and a furious movie, which it ends. Yeah. So I think that's it. You know, and do we think, by the way, I've just realized, just by the fact that I took that picture, I sort of thought that that thing on the front of the car was like a, you know, an air intake. Yeah. Yeah. You know, take, but of course, it's a camera, isn't it? Just sitting there. I thought, I don't. Until I'm sitting here looking at the image right now, I'm like, wait a minute. But I think if you look at the image closer, it's because of the way they took it. It's meant to be the car is not moving. It's parked. And those are set on the hood. But we're looking at those lines and everything and it looks like it's flying. And you're like,

1:44:26and again, until you just said that, or actually right before, I was like, wait a minute, that isn't an intake, because it's off center too. But, yeah, it does look like one of those. Yes. Absolutely. So yeah, does it a slight disservice, I think, in fairness, but still. Okay. So the movie is, I mean, it's awesome. I mean, I'm funny enough. I've got a question for you on that page. So, okay, so the film is, Jake Gyllenhaal is an oddball, someone who clearly does have mental health issues. He's also very dangerous. But he has mental health issues. It's never really gone into, it's never really discussed. No one really kind of pinpoint what they are, but he clearly does have mental health problems. These days, I think we probably call it personality disorder. Well, it's all like 10 years ago. It's like, but the labels have certainly been done. So I think this potential asperges there, there's potential, you know, multi-personality disorder, all kinds of issues. This guy's gone. But never touched on. No one ever really goes into that other than people say, you're weird.

1:45:27No back story to the character. No, it's awesome. Yeah, there is, by the way, they shot back story. There was, there was, in the script, there was a back story in the shot here, and very wisely, Dan Gilroy, who directed it, decided, let's not have that. It's it's better. And let's say I love it here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and so the film itself is supposed to be a satire. The idea is, Jake Gyllenhaal is a, is a, is a, is a failure at various jobs. He's got all kinds of odd obsessions. Yeah. And is, is when we meet him, he's up to no good. There's a fairly unsettling and unpleasant sort of opening. And then we then get into the story. And he falls into this career of a, what they call apparently nightcrawls. Yeah, it's a real thing. They go around and they try to find accidents and things of interest to the local news, generally crime. And that's what he starts to do. And the way he does it and goes about it is unsettling and unpleasant. Now it's

1:46:28supposed to be a satire. Okay, it's supposed to be satire. And the question I've got for you, Dej, is because this movie is, it's an excellent film. But so the question I've got for you is this, does satire have to be funny? And just once you're thinking about it, I've just given me two, I've got to just, there's been a slight thing out here, Dej. Can I just have two sessions? And I'll come back on. Can I just, just give me two seconds. I'll be back in. Yeah, absolutely. One, two, three, two, three, two, three. Um, yeah. So while Steve steps away, um, yeah, we're talking, obviously nightcrawler. Um, I won't answer Steve's question. But one of the things I liked about this movie, I mentioned it to Steve too, is that it, to his point, satire. But I think of this as, it's more of a psychological thriller to me. Um, it lists as a thriller. It's not, like action movie. It's not really action. It's definitely a thriller. But it's a psychological thriller because of the background of Jake Gyllenhaal's character. And the acting and stuff, and we'll talk about it when we get into the home theater aspect of it, is that it's really enhanced in this. Jake Gyllenhaal's

1:47:32acting is enhanced in this in that it's, it's so much fun to watch him. Um, and like I said, the psychological thriller part of it is like what, they don't give you a backstory to this. So what you're thinking is is what, like you know, he is mentally off. Let's put it that way. And I mean, it's, it's established early on and he's a go-getter and he reads and he, he absorbs information and he's, he's a lot like, um, if you see, saw the accountant, he's a more, um, action version of Ben Affleck's character in, in the accountant where he's, he's a go-getter, he can get out there. He wants to do something. He's, he's very ambitious and he wants to use his abilities to absorb information and he's, and where he is on like where you say he's, he's mentally off. It's like, he takes everything in his literal. So it's like, this is this, this and this and this and he's very factual and it, as the movie plays out, it makes you like,

1:48:34this is like crazy. You can't do this, but now you're seeing him start to succeed and you're like, what? And he's just, everything to him is black and white. And that's like, this is the way it has to be. This is what I want. This is what I'm going to get and I'm go, I'm a go-getter. And he sees, he sees no issue with if I'm doing it. It's right. And this is what I'm doing. And as this movie plays out to like, what Steve's saying about satire and stuff, it's, you're like, is this possible? And it's, it's, it's highly, to me, it's highly entertaining because of the psychological part of the psychological thriller part of it. And that people could potentially be like this. I don't know if this could happen. But Bill, what is it? Bill Paxson. Bill Paxson plays a part in this movie that I think is meant to show you that night crawlers exist. He's the, he's the, he's the grounded night crawl. Like, this is the basis of reality of these people that go out and get this stuff for

1:49:35the news and the information. And, and then there's a whole other side of it where you get into the psychological thriller part of it of where people like, what the news is delivering to you, what they're trying to, they're trying to be accurate. And especially in this day and age, hey, Steve, in this day and age, are they trying to be accurate or are they trying to be entertaining or they're trying to get clicks? And again, this took place in 2014, 12 years ago, clicks and stuff were just starting to become a thing. And to, that, I mean, this movie here, if you saw it, if it came out today, you'd be like, I don't even think they could make this today. They'd be like, two on the nose, two on the nose, what's going on? And how people are looking at the media right now and stuff and be like, huh? And like, Renee Russo's character was awesome. I mentioned while you were gone, I mentioned, I'm Bill Paxton's character. I mentioned him, Steve, as he's the grounded night crawl, he's like the reality of night crawlers,

1:50:36right? Like there are people like that. And now, Jake Gyllenhaal's character is to your point, like the satire. And it's like, I think it can. And answer to your question, I think you can have satire that is that isn't supposed to be funny. It's just like comics don't have to be funny, right? We called them the funny pages, but comics in that art doesn't have to be humors. It just has to be like satire. It satire just like, I don't know the exact definition of how to say satire, but I know what it means. It's like, I know the idea is it's like, it's an alternate take to make you look at go, oh, and it doesn't have to be funny. But it's like, what I was saying about Jake Gyllenhaal, what I referenced him, like if you haven't seen the movie, think of a more action, a more ambitious version, and go get a version of Ben Affleck in the accountant. Smart. And Jake Gyllenhaal is like, he's smart. He's driven. Everything is black and white.

1:51:41It's, this is how I want it. This is what I like. This is what I'm doing. And he reads. He's very, he's smart because he reads it. He retains it. And he understands. He's like, oh, okay. And he's very literal in everything, right? And that's what I mentioned. It's listed as a thriller. I would say it's more of a psychological thriller because of his mental state. And then the psychological thriller of the state of the media and what it does to people. Yeah. Yeah. It's quite, I mean, it is, it's a masterpiece. I think it's, I think it's Jake Gyllenhaal's best role. And he's been in low to great movies. I mean, he's a very good actor. But I, I think, personally, this is his most ambitious role. I think it's his best role. You know, he inhabits this character. Interesting to do. Just interesting. You say that because the film for the longest time was called coyote or coyote. Okay. And that him being that he is, he's an animal. Yeah. You know, he is, he's a scavenger

1:52:43instinctive animal. Yeah. Quite, yeah. Exactly that. And, and so it was, it, and again, as I'd read that this was a satire. And again, I don't think there's anything funny in this at all. I don't think this is funny. I think it's, and I think it's meant to be. I think if you're laughing at this, yeah. There may be someone to use there. I think it's, I think it's a dark, dark movie, both literally and figuratively. Yeah. So it's definitely more towards the, the, the, yeah, the, the, the darker end of satire, the serious end of holding a mirror up to society and criticizing it in a way that, yeah, that is not, not supposed to write funny. Yeah. It's a masterpiece of a film. It's a very good resume. It's fantastic in it as well as the, you know, the put up on kind of assistant. Anyone that hasn't seen this film already should fix that and really should do yourself a favor and see it. Now, in terms of me, then, so yeah, 4k disc, and again, just been released and in Atmos, it's a thing of beauty. They've spent some time on this as well.

1:53:46Now, we talked earlier about dark movies. Now, this is a movie that is all about shadow, it's all about what happens between the hours of sundown and sunup. So the movie essentially is all night. It's a very little daylight. And fun enough, you get the impression in the very little daylight that there is that he's extremely uncomfortable in the daylight. The night is his kind of world. And so most of the movies at night, and so what you get, though, is it obviously that's a challenging environment for any 4k disc because you get it wrong and you get black crush, you make it too bright, you lose shadow detail. And this is beautiful. How they have done this is, again, it's made for HDR before three years, for 4k HDR was a thing in 2017. So you get, but you just get these, these, these stitching black shadows that just makes it everything looked dimensional. It's, it's, it's, it's hard, it's almost a character in and of

1:54:52itself. What is being shown and what is not being shown, what is, what is clear and what is in the shadows. And of course, that has a psychological aspect in and of itself. And I mean, I was thinking did you just always watching this, you know, I'm always thinking about the next season, we're thinking about an LAC season, yeah, you know, heat, you know, LAC, I'm thinking collateral, you know, these kind of movies of kind of LA, you know, it scants slightly, you know, off center. And you know, it's beautiful. You know, the colors, when there are colors are lovely, the explosions when they come, great, the flames look really good, the neon lights, the lights of the vehicles that, like, I brought your image back up, because it has the car front and center right there. As this movie, yeah, it's, I mean, it's a, I mean, it's an amazing commercial for that vehicle too. In that, so this movie,

1:55:53like you said, everything you said about night in the details and the shadows. So as this movie started, it's like, I knew this car. I knew the image. I've seen the movie before, right? And it's like you're, but as the movie plays out, he doesn't have that car. You forget that. You forget, like, because you're so enthralled with the movie, you're so enthralled with Jake Gyllenhaal, his acting, his eyes, which is all I mentioned this while you were gone. It's like everything Jake Gyllenhaal does is enhanced by the picture, by the quality of the picture, because the vibrancy, the detail in his face, his eyes opening up in the, the lack of, like, the wrinkles in his forehead and the lack of the wrinkles on the side, everything he's doing is and he, I read a thing where he's like, he did so many takes and he just wouldn't blink for that reason to give it, give that feel. And it's like, and I read that after I saw it, and I was like, that's what it was. It feels creepy. He feels it. You don't know what it is. Yeah. It's laughable. Oh, that's what it was. He never blinked. But getting back to the car and the color and the vibrancy, you're looking at it going, when the car shows up,

1:56:55it's that deep, rich red that color. I mean, it's so shiny and so beautiful. And he even does something. There's a line in the movie when his partner puts the gas in and it's like, that's me. If somebody, like a hundred percent all day long, yeah, you did that wrong. Get your head out of your butt. He doesn't say this. That's what I would be saying. I'm like, do not ruin the finish on the vehicle. But that was, and it's like, you knew why the car was a maculate, right? But that is enhanced absolutely by the picture. And it's like, like you said, this is predominantly at night, but it did show a lot of sunrises. And they were beautiful. Beautiful sunrises. And it's like, now the light's coming up. And you're like, oh, it's, I mean, looked awesome. It does. It's great. I mean, I noticed some details that I've missed before. I missed it. So the incident at the beginning, he takes something from someone at the beginning.

1:57:57And I didn't realize until I watched this, again, on this side screen, I never saw it in theatre. So this is the biggest screen I've seen in them. The thing he takes, he wears throughout the film and is still wearing it at the end. And it's this. Oh, yeah. I know. Okay. So this, this, this, yes. So this, this thing that he took, this step that he takes at the beginning is then with that, with his route. And I remember thinking, oh, that's kind of a cool little thing. And I quite like that. And it's ill fit. Yeah. It doesn't fit him properly. And that also is a metaphor then for this idea that this life doesn't fit him. Nothing fits him correctly because of his own particular issues or which he is trying to make it. And I was to him quite make it to make it exactly that. And so that's a kind of metaphor again for him as a person. So I thought I was bringing in the detail on the image, let you see that sort of film. And he never takes it off no matter how he changes is, you know, the rest of the things around him. So that was, that's very cool. And then

1:59:02the audio now say, this isn't that one in that one. So this is like, yeah, it does. Well, the thing that stood out to me on this, you get a lot of pounds with the sirens moving around, a lot of traffic stuff, which is great. There is a car chase in it, which sounds great as well. Again, when he guns the engine of this, you know, what is it? Yeah, when he brings that, you got that. But the thing that made me jump more than I am, I did actually jump in this with a gunshot. Yes. The home invasion sound at great. You see, yeah, just like maybe jump a couple times, they were really powerful kind of gunshots. So yeah, audio fits it perfectly. You know, it gives that again, that that otherworldly atmosphere to some of this when he's kind of on his own and he's clearly in this, this, this particular headspace. It's a fantastic movie and an awesome presentation of this fantastic movie. So yeah, I again, another one, it's all gold tonight.

2:00:04I highly recommend this to fans of this film. If you haven't seen it, as I say fix it. Yeah, you'll be glad you did. It's great. Really, really good film. Yeah, so couldn't, couldn't I can't recommend it. Like I said, it's like, and it's one of those movies that when I saw, the first time I saw it, it's like, oh, that's amazing. And then we get into doing other things. And then when I saw you, I was like, all right. And then you start watching it again. And you like, it all comes flooding back. And there's so much to talk about with it. There's so much depth to the movie, literally to almost like every character, you know, I mean, Bill Paxton's character, they're not a lot of depth, but even Renee Rousseau's character, her assistance in her room. And like their motivation, like they're trying to pull back and they're trying to, so they're giving you that like, it's not, they're showing you like, this isn't normal. People are admitting, this don't seem right, but they're getting away with it. They're doing this, they're doing that, and this is how you get away with it. And this is how things happen. It's like, is this right?

2:01:06Doesn't matter. Is this legal? Is it ethical? Is it this? It's like, they ask all these questions, but yet the movie keeps going. And it's like everything in your wonder. And how is this possible? And it's, but yeah, it's so, so well done. Yeah, she's a very tragic character in this. There'll be a lot of things. Well, she's doing horrible things. If she's got a very tragic story and of herself and how he relates to her. And I mean, that one scene, that long, his scene that he breaks it down to her, the model, it's almost like a model like to her. And then the way they shoot it and then coming at her into the room and talking and getting to her, knowing all that information about her. And it not only is it, is it devastating to her character, but now you're also understanding how thorough he is, right? And how, how ill, but how learned it, he's like, he's like, I got to say, like just the wherewithal for him to even look that you don't know what you're going to find when you're looking up. What if he didn't find out the information that he needed to make that happen? But he got it, he used it, he twisted it,

2:02:10and he did all these things to to to manipulate a person into doing what they probably wouldn't have done. And like I said, that's why it's like, it's a cycle. Well, no, no, she wouldn't have done because she turns him down again and again, and he's going and then gets her into a position where she can no longer have that control. Some might say this is a treat, he's on coercive and controlled exactly where I was going with it. Exactly. It's like he uses the information to make her make the decision to rationalize to do these things. Like this is why you want to do this. He doesn't force her to do it. He uses the information that he has at hand to manipulate her into making the decision on her own. So he can then say, I didn't tell you to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, quite. And then of course, maneuver into a position where she cannot start you no longer can control what she doesn't want. And it's not just psychologically, but physically as well as we discover. And in that last devastating line,

2:03:14you know, I expect you to do what I tell you to do in your apartment. Yeah. Oh, whoa. The first time I heard that, I'm like, did I hear that? I hear that rightly like. Yeah. Because this is a movie that doesn't use the gratuitous stuff. They use suggestion. Right. Yeah. And you're like, yeah. All my, which is even more powerful in that. Yeah. So we are so good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great film. A masterpiece, I would say. Frankly, it really is good. Not much I could, I could critique in this. Yeah. But it doesn't seem to get the crowd. So yeah. Great week. It has been largely forgot. I get it. Didn't win a lot of awards. It didn't kind of, it wasn't a big splashy movie. And yet Dan Gill was the brother of Tony Gilroy who, you know, who's a Hollywood player and people know him. You know, yeah, it seems to have kind of just one of those excellent movies that people have forgotten. And it's only every now and then someone mentions it. Oh, do you know what? That film is great. And then you kind of see it again. And I'm so glad I imported it again, you know, from, from the US again, it's

2:04:17not expensive. Well worth getting hold of people over here. There's no sign of a UK release. And there's a slew of these steelbook releases from Open Road who are the production company. I don't know if it's Jellin Hall's company. I don't know if it is or if he's linked to it. But this open road is the house that's behind. Nightcrawler, the grey it's behind. End of watch. Okay. You know, these movies that I've been talking about recently that have had these steelbook releases. Open Road have been in front of all of those. So I'm assuming they've had some hand in this. But yeah, they're all very, very good indeed. And more to come. Yeah. I mean, on kaleidoscapers 4k with Dolby Vision. And it's yeah, the studio shelf factory. They got yeah, okay. Oh, shout. Oh, they have a ship. They do collaborate with them. So they'll do their version and then later on after the sales maybe die down. They give it, they work with kaleidoscape. So they'll give their version to kaleidoscape from there. So yeah. Yeah. Okay. I don't

2:05:24think these are shout ones. I think these are studio ones, but they're all of a piece as a say. They all seem to be open road. So I think there's been some deal done there. But of course, they're all great genre movies. So, you know, the only one is us. Absolutely. Yeah. So good. So good. Very cool. Very good. And a worthy judge. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. There we go. Over two hours. We started late, but we still ended up with over two hours show. And oh, man, stop us once we get going. Well, yeah. That's the only thing that does stop us is our like reality, like real life schedule. Oh, my god. Could you? Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Time flies. And we didn't even get to everything. It's like no, man. I've got stuff left all of a sudden. Look at that. Seven eight nine. Yeah. I've got nine in the bag. I've got like three I think three left over. Yeah. Oh, and some seriously cool stuff still to come as well.

2:06:27You know, we're just there's we are. It's an embarrassment to purchase at the moment. And not just the ninja stuff, although that's part of it. It's so much fun. All right. Yeah. Um, so again, should we rewind everyone? So next. Next. What's the regular show? Next. Yeah. Um, Thursday 4 p.m. We have our round table panel discussion about, um, you know, display, what's the most important part in your display? What's a, you know, quality of of image, what's all that stuff? So the link for that should be going up tomorrow on YouTube. Uh, yeah, we will be going live again 4 p.m. Um, and probably around 5 p.m. We'll be going, it will be taking questions there about. So, um, this one will be on time. This isn't this, this is real stuff here. This isn't just me and Steve messing around. We're talking, this is legit. So when I say 4 p.m. I mean 422. No. Um, yeah. So 4 p.m.

2:07:33Beyond time, because we're going to be on time, um, because to organize all these people, it has to be like everybody's schedule has to fit in. So it's like in getting Joel and getting, you know, Andre doing all this stuff. And we're talking multi. We got Steve in England. We got people on the West Coast, Joe, Joe Closnick on the West coast. I mean, I think most of them are on the West coast except for, I don't know where Joel is. Okay. Honestly, I forget. Um, and then obviously me here on the East Coast, but I don't matter. Um, up, uh, I'll spend I'll travel to this show, right Steve? Yeah, we tried. So, all right. That we'll do it for this week. We will see you next week with a lot of stuff. Uh, I go try to, I can't promise anything, but I'm gonna try to get something out on Tuesday. Um, maybe some edits, some stuff lead up to the Thursday show. See, see, maybe, um, put out something with me and John Thompson or

2:08:34something like that. But we'll see. Um, but everybody, thank you. Thank you everybody in the chat lively, lively chat today. Uh, it dropped out a little bit, but I think YouTube stopped showing us the numbers, but then it's back and strong. So, um, yep. Thanks to the patrons keeping this show going. If you want to support and get, you know, you know, dollar a month. And if everybody did it, Steve, and I could do this every day. And we could bring John back because he could retire and do this every day. Um, worth pointing out these just so we may have a new Patreon. I think we do have one just so I can talk that next week, but I think we've got a new. All right. Yeah. Wow. All right. That's interesting. You're bringing it to me. I just thought, okay. That's uh, oh, okay. Nice. All right. All right. That we'll do it for this week. Uh, until next week, you know what you got to do. Go push play. What he said. That's right.

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