Hour 1: Mets win, Yankees lose for first time

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Mets win, Yankees lose, nicks get a little assistance from the Atlanta Hawks last night.

Your biceps look phenomenal.

Good morning Rick, how are you?

I'm doing fantastic Dave.

I would be doing a lot better if the islanders found a win last night instead of what they did.

What was that?

That's a great question.

You lose the game, you're upset.

You were non-competitive in a game that you had to win.

Well no, you were competitive early.

It looked good early.

I mean, you jumped out to a lead and then it all fell apart.

Right.

Early.

But by the time you got to the end of the second period,

you were in massive trouble and the third period was a disaster.

That's right.

I was confident about that game too.

I feel bad.

I honestly don't know why you wouldn't be.

Cassie's dad's got his Jersey Mike's NHL picks going on.

For a chance, I think if you win the season long picks thing or whatever it is,

I guess you win a trip to the Stanley Cup.

So Yankees all into it.

And he's like, what do you think about this game?

I was like, we got to go islanders at home.

I mean, it's a huge game.

Let's go islanders.

And then.

Of course.

He wasn't yelling at you.

He wasn't yelling at me.

He probably will today.

He's going to tell you he's annoyed because you're giving the wrong pick.

That's right.

Well, that's what I said.

And of course, he would have went undefeated.

So don't ask my opinion.

That's fine.

Right.

I mean, I let a motion get in the way.

No, I don't agree with that.

I don't agree with that.

I think the islanders let you down.

You lead the game to nothing.

You lead the game 3-1.

You allow what?

Seven on answered goals after that?

That's right.

That's embarrassing.

That is embarrassing.

And then it doesn't get any easier because now you go Buffalo.

Then I go.

Who would have thought that phrase would come out of your mouth this year, huh?

Well, I know.

I mean, RJ didn't.

No one did.

Buffalo sabers were the jets.

And that's my only hope, Dave.

The sabers?

Yeah.

Am I shining beacon?

I like it.

It's the sabers that you're shining star in this whole thing.

Yes.

If the sabers can do it and get out of the drags that they've been in, why can't we?

Exactly right.

Why can't we be the sabers?

Exactly right.

I love it.

Why not us?

You know, and I got Geno Smith to take me there, baby.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he's been a very good quarterback in the sleep.

He's the guy.

I believe I heard that yesterday during the round of the league.

He's the guy.

He's the guy that is to take you to the spot that you need to get to like the sabers.

Yep.

It's all I need.

RJ has given me hope.

Is what he's done.

How about that?

And now RJ's team can't go 162 and I, which I also like.

So that's what I mean.

Yeah, they didn't.

At what point does the narrative flip?

And it's like, well, we can't score runs.

When do we get there?

Every, I mean, every other day, the narrative is going to change.

Every day the narrative is going to change, right?

Every single day.

Well, listen, it's a good thing because people are engaged and people are excited.

And both teams have high expectations, right?

I mean, that's part of it.

It's the same thing with the next.

I don't think we're nearly as, as crazy.

Like, I mean, you said before we got in the air.

So Celtics lost.

We're back, baby.

Like it's just, when you're that, I mean, when you're that emotionally invested

because you have such high expectations for your team, I think it's a good thing.

I mean, try to.

It is a good thing.

Because then, because then you care.

Right.

You care.

You're excited.

So listen, I mean, outside of outside of the jets and the Rangers, we're not in a terrible spot.

New York sports.

New York sports thought a terrible spot.

Well, we're assuming that the giants are going to take a leap, right?

Well, no, but I just mean level of level of excitement, enthusiasm.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right?

Because you guys are, I mean, you're, you're.

Well, I mean, I think you're forgetting one, one team.

Maybe you don't even consider them to be like a New York team, but you're forgetting the nets.

Well, but I mean, go, are we really doing that right now?

They get me in there.

They're, they're tanking.

We're okay.

Right.

So, okay, well, if you want to throw the nets into it.

But do you think there's real excitement surrounding the nets right now?

No, I don't.

Okay.

So, so nets.

I figured I didn't figure I had to say that.

I think we all recognize that.

That's just saying the teams.

You know, stop it.

You forget.

It's fine.

You forgot.

Okay.

We'll talk about the nets.

If you want to be a stickler for the rules, we'll throw in the nets.

RJ told me Brooklyn was a different state.

I'm going by what RJ told me.

Okay.

That's not even a New York team.

RJ won't even, he won't even touch on on where we are anymore.

I was looking at the look ahead yesterday, and he's, he's scared to say where, where we are.

I, when you have a misstep, when you have a misstep like that, I mean, I would understand why he'd be a little shy to start putting different states in Brooklyn.

I raised Brooklyn.

My, myself and John are in, uh, in New York raised in Brooklyn.

And then you guys are in, in other states.

Yeah, that's right.

That's great.

He's human.

He makes mistakes, okay?

Yeah.

I mean, I know we all think he's great, but he, I mean, I know he makes mistakes.

I know he makes mistakes.

I'm fine with him making mistakes.

I think the thing that you have to, is that he was so arrogant and cocky in that.

Like, look at me.

I'm going to make a very funny joke here.

And then it just, like, a pie to the face.

It didn't, it did not go over well.

You want to see that before you do, uh, stuff you missed?

Skeetled, it'll do it.

Hey, listen, you know, but you know what?

You know what pie's to the faces, all right, Pozo?

Okay, I mean, that's not, let's relax.

Wow.

We don't need to go.

It's six oh five.

Uh-huh.

We don't need to attack my guy today.

I didn't just pack him.

I was going to say something nice about you because we've been trying to figure out a whole, yeah, it was.

We've been trying to figure out this whole thing because the entire time we've been doing this, the volume is coming through the cameras.

Opposite was very upset.

And now we finally figured it out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I don't understand.

No one does.

It makes sense.

I don't understand this at all because it says if you mute yourself, this is great because now I don't have the audio blaring through the, the, uh.

Whatever this is zoom or whatever this, this, this is air link.

It says while your mic is muted, your camera will not go on air.

Make sure to never mute yourself during a live segment.

And I am.

And look what's happening.

We're still on air.

We're still on air.

So explain that to me.

That makes no sense.

It gives you a massive warning.

Whatever you do, don't do that.

And now it's changed the entire dynamic of the show.

Yeah.

And the screen lights up red as if like, no, there's no chance to support a board.

Get out of here.

Right.

You know what you will not go on air like this.

And here we are on air.

You know, it's like.

It's like ABS.

Okay.

It tells us that we challenge it.

We win.

It's what I like the Yankees with ABS.

We just want to.

I tried, I tried to tell you about ABS and how good it was going to be.

And you put it.

What do you mean you love ABS?

No, I did not put it.

I, it was, you caught me off guard.

Okay.

We're all excited about ABS.

You caught me off guard in that moment.

I didn't think we're going ABS.

And you threw me a curveball.

What, what did the Yankees challenge six and one five of them last night?

I didn't have a, uh, I think that's what it was.

And Cabo, you know, challenge two and one had bat.

And that, that forced a walk on what would have been a strike three.

And he, he's, he starts to take it off all his paraphernalia and like running down the first base.

Ah, he knew.

He knew there was going to be a big day.

Listen, the Yankees were one of those teams that you looked at and said they.

They were five or five.

Right.

RJ, they were five five.

They weren't five or six, right?

Yeah, five, five.

They're perfect.

I think they're, I think they're 10 of 11.

Okay.

They missed one on the season.

Yeah, 10 of 11.

Yeah.

Um, but I think the Yankees were one of those teams you would look at, especially judge,

that have a, a really good idea of what the strike zone is and would benefit from this.

I think the problem is, and you saw the frustration of Aaron Boone is, is that you only get two of them.

And you don't want to have to keep challenging close pitches.

Okay.

But you'd rather get it right and challenge pitches that they put in the, than the other way.

Right.

But you'd rather not have to challenge five pitches though.

You know what I mean?

Like just do your job.

Right?

I mean, there's still our umpires.

I don't know what point of the umpires are like, okay, enough of this.

Just have one.

But why not just go to the automatic balls and split actually like umpire.

I think this was right.

I think this was kind of the first foray into that.

See how the umpires feel about it.

Hey, we want to still be calling balls and strikes.

Okay.

You can do it.

We'll have the challenge system.

And then maybe you get to the point where, you know, you start to get fed up with it.

Like do they feel like this is being like they're being embarrassed?

Or is it the pictures are so close it's just like, hey, listen.

I think that you get some umpires.

There's some calls you're like, that wasn't close to a strike for the most part.

For the most part, the balls that they're calling strikes that are in fact balls are re,

they're coming in at 94 miles an hour.

You're behind another human being.

You're wearing a mask.

You see how close they are.

They're like centimeters away for the most part.

I don't think it's embarrassing.

Now there's some that you look at like, oh my god, that was brutal.

Well, the other part, I don't think it's embarrassing.

Well, no, I'm just saying that maybe I think it's probably umpire to umpire.

But CB Buckner was like, you could tell.

Like he was like, okay.

All right, we're challenging this again.

It's like, well, just call it.

I mean, just sprinkle on the strike.

I mean, we'll be fine.

I don't want to have to challenge every pitch, but I will if I have to.

Well, that's what you forced our hand, right?

We kind of have to challenge.

Yeah, but I just think that at a certain point, it's like, okay, right?

I mean, we only get two of these things.

Let's not have like every, I got to challenge this many times.

At some point I'm probably going to be wrong.

Or now all of a sudden I get the itchy trigger finger like this guy's got a bad strike zone.

So I'm going to, I'm going to assume it's probably not a strike zone.

I'm going to challenge it and then you lose.

Right.

See how quick they can tell you if it's a ball or a strike.

We can't be far from just having that as the answer, right?

I would imagine that they have the ability to have that ball go through the strike zone

and then pop up ball or strike and go right to the empire behind the plate to call it.

Like some kind of a chime in his ear or just as like strike ball, right?

And then he makes the actual physical call.

I'm sure that they, you see the technologies that they have.

They can give you a definitive answer with like video in the strike zone where the ball hits through in, in how long?

In six seconds, eight seconds from beginning to end.

They definitely can give you a, a robo strike zone.

So my question to you is, why is that a bad thing now?

I guess in their mind kind of being embarrassed.

Why would actually getting it right all the time be a bad thing?

I don't, I don't think it's a bad thing.

I think that this is also created, I think this is actually created some entertainment.

Right, I think that's part of it too.

I think you saw the other day with the, with the CB Buckner game,

is the crowd is like, I mean, the crowd's waiting for the call.

Boom, they get it, they cheer, they go crazy.

So I mean, I guess, I mean, outside of, you know, just maybe the added entertainment

and you also have the empires, you know, that have to agree to it.

Right, they have a union also.

Sure. I was a very strong union.

So do they want to, I mean, do they want to be replaced by robots and just stand there

and call the strike zone or it's like, hey, no, we'll call it and let them challenge

and let's see how that goes.

Okay, for the most part, they're good.

They're very good.

Listen, to do a, well, you can't say they only missed five,

because they were only challenged from the Yankees on five.

You know, you could, I mean, you could miss 30,

but only five from the Yankees standpoint were challenged.

So, I mean, but they are good.

They're really, really good.

And I just, it could be better.

Like, well, if you can make something better,

and it would take really no time, effort, financial, anything, why would you not do it?

Well, I also, I mean, I don't know the answer to it.

I think it's probably a conversation they have to have with the empires before they completely replace them,

but I also think that they're starting to see that there's some entertainment to it.

If it doesn't take that long and the crowd's getting into it,

and they're looking like they get excited about it,

then I mean, what's the difference?

I think it was in Cincinnati.

They determined that the crowd noise,

the decibel level was the same as a home run.

When they overturn that call.

Yeah, when they overturn the call.

And they also, I mean, they also killed CB Buchman spirit at the same time,

which I'm sure they didn't hate either,

because he's not very good.

I wouldn't know, but that's the thing.

You almost feel gleeful about the empires that you think stink.

Exactly right.

Yeah, see, I told you you stink.

I think we all do.

I don't even think it's almost.

I think we all do.

I actually was like, good.

I'm glad I'm glad he's upset right now.

Right.

Now you're annoyed because you're not good at your job.

And now we get to kind of celebrate in that.

Yeah, right.

But Yankees, they lost last night off.

You know, it's funny.

We're going to get the, you can feel it already.

Like, oh, we're so good on defeated.

Oh, God.

Now we can't score runs.

It's going to, it's going to go very, very quickly.

Both teams because the expectations are so high.

Like you're a meds fan.

Why did he send them?

What's wrong?

Sunday wasn't good.

We lose to the pirates.

You go out yesterday.

Bullpen immaculate.

Clay home was really good.

But shit offensively comes alive.

Oh, you know what?

It's a match of three and one right now.

Oh, here we go.

Yeah, listen, I mean, I think you go crazy trying to do 162.

But as far as they mean to do it though.

It's funny about, you know, it's just sports in general.

It's when you're struggling.

It feels like the moment always finds you.

And either in the moment you find a way to get, you know,

have success or you don't.

So, you know, but shit getting booed.

And I don't know how many people are actually booing them.

But it's loud enough to hear it.

He does a great job with the post game interview.

Listen, I booed me too.

I stink.

I thought my bad, my bads are really bad.

So he's, I mean, he's definitely pressing.

It's a new team.

He's making a ton of money.

He wants to prove to everyone that he's worth it.

He wants to prove to his teammates most importantly.

And got off to a really bad start.

And of course, right?

It felt like every moment found him last night.

And he comes through a couple of times.

I mean, the one he, the one he hit the right field was a bullet.

They got caught.

Right.

He got the, he got the, he got the hit to right where he fell over.

And he's on the broadcast like he almost fell over.

Like, no, no, he fell over.

No, he was down.

Yeah, he absolutely fell down.

Um, but yeah, like this, the meds.

Boba shut in particular.

When you look at his career, which again, his baseball, like we're back

in the baseball card kind of thing is he's a, he's a basketball guy.

Right?

This was not going to be a season long thing for him.

At some point he was going to, he was going to snap out of it.

He's too good of a hit or not to him.

And he did last night and they found a way to win.

Um, and then on the Yankee side of it, Luis Castillo is a stud.

Oh, he's great.

Right?

So I mean, you go on up against a really good pitcher and they struggled.

Again, I thought that, I mean, they'd stand and try to push it to a double.

Like he clearly feels good, which is huge.

And he's got off to a really good start.

But they struggled offensively against the good pitching staff.

Their bullpen was lights out again.

They had to go to Blackburn for a second inning.

And they, you know, they finally get to him.

The big number who's struggling came to.

He's struggling on big time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's not off to a great start.

Well, he had a bad at bat and was at the seventh inning.

Mariners had chances often last night and couldn't come through until they finally did to, uh, to win the game in the ninth.

I was a seventh.

He struggled swinging.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cause, cause, uh, what Ken's own and Rodriguez both struck out with second and third.

I think that was the fifth and then the seventh.

So Mariners had their chances.

Um, again, it's, it's, I think he can't go crazy because you're back out of tonight and it's just not that big a deal.

Uh, no.

I mean, listen, both of these teams, both of these teams are good teams, right?

I mean, I think the Yankees have Yankees probably have higher expectations than the Metsu just because of, I mean,

the, the consistency in which the Yankees make the postseason.

And I think that's fair.

And I also think that having the Dodger standing away in, in your league makes it more difficult to.

Well, I think that's part of it too.

And then, but a division wise, I mean, both divisions are good divisions.

At the A, at least, and the NLS are really good divisions.

And I just think that the, you know, Metsu coming off 83 wins.

Yankees had 94 and, you know, lost a tiebreaker to win the division.

That's different.

I mean, I, listen, we all hope the Mets, we all hope the Metsu end up in the championship series.

But I mean, is that fair to go from 83 to all of a sudden, we, you know, the expectation is the championship series?

Uh, that's, that's the tall order.

I don't know about it.

That's the difference.

And on top of the fact that it feels like the Yankees ran it back.

I like that.

Yankees ran it back, but they, they ran back a team that was very good.

I know it was very good, but no one felt like it was good enough to be both, uh, to beat the blue jays.

Well, it wasn't, it wasn't close to beat Toronto last year.

Okay, but so, I mean, if, if this was our team that we root for, and you watched your team lose to the team that ended up in the wheelchair.

Yeah, and you just said we're going to, we're going to run it back and while you beat them now, because we, well, because we will.

Yeah, you would be annoyed.

But I don't know, maybe Schlittler is that special.

Well, and then Cole's coming back, listen to that.

I mean, I, I can buy into all the different reasons.

It's just like, I would be hard pressed.

Like, if I'm married judge, forget just a fan.

If I'm married judge, and I'm looking at this team, and I watch, you know, I watch what happens in the series.

Also not to mention the fact that, you know, the way we struggle against Toronto, especially in Toronto, I'd be like,

okay, we're good, but I think we could get better.

Like, let's not just, like, let's, let's find a way to, uh, to take away some things and make us better.

But they decided, hey, we'll bring it back.

I know Ben Rice will have a, you know, Ben Rice is going to have an improvement on his, his season.

And he had a good season.

And then we'll get the pitching back.

We'll be, I mean, our rotation is going to be loaded, which it is.

It really is.

I mean, everybody, I mean, you know, even starting to lose heel this time around and everyone has pitched well.

Everyone.

And the bullpen's been great.

Great.

I mean, the Yankees are not three and one, which is a terrific record anyhow.

They're not three and one because the pitching hasn't lived up to what you would hope.

Right.

They haven't been sensational so far.

Pitching's been really good.

Yeah.

Really, really good.

So we got Buster at 735, um, we have CMT after Buster.

Now, whether that's 750, 8 o'clock, whatever, we have CMT following Buster.

We have the stuff that you missed at 920.

And then, of course, to say bye-bye and put a ball in this whole thing.

We have three stars at 953.

And that's, and that's the day.

And there it is.

We have a lot of baseball.

We have some NBA.

We have some NFL.

We have some high jinks.

And that'll be the show.

I love it.

Sounds good.

That's a nice little menu you put together.

I love it as well.

You ever, uh, were you ever a waiter?

Oh, I was ever known.

No, me neither.

No, my only job was before I started playing, before I was, was hockey was a janitor.

A janitor, right?

Yeah.

So the only real job you've ever had is as a janitor.

Yeah.

So I had a paper out.

Is that count?

Sure.

Yeah.

So I, from paper out to janitor.

And then once I did the janitor thing, I'm like, you know what?

I'm, you got to make this hockey thing work.

And, yeah, you, you made it work.

Yeah.

You made it work.

Look at you.

So proud.

Thank you.

I mean, listen, scraping gum off the guy, give freezing gum and scraping it off the ground.

And then they have people throwing garbage at you.

Is not.

It was, I mean, is there garbage at you?

Well, because I worked in a park.

So it was like a, like a, the business kind of district of Boston.

Right.

And there was this park that I worked at.

And people would come eat lunch when it was nice out.

And then they just thought it was a great idea as I was walking around with the, uh,

the big, giant, gray receptacle receptacle that I would empty the trash can.

So I take the garbage bags out, put it in the gray receptacle and then I'd wheel it down and empty it.

They thought it was a good idea as I was walking with that thing to just throw,

like empty bag lunches off my chest into the, uh,

that's, that's horrible.

I think we called the big kahuna into the kahuna.

That's horrible.

Yeah.

Um, Kevin Burke emails in, that's having a look at it all.

I know you clowns have your blue and orange colored glasses on, but do you realize you played, uh,

two teams that will finish dead last in the National League, right?

Well, they're in the same division.

So I think St. Louis and Pittsburgh finishing dead last both of them would be an oppressive feat.

Uh, I don't, I mean, you got to Paul Skins.

You're starting pitching has been really good.

Your bullpen has been good.

You're not hitting you.

Like how, how different do the Metz looked in the Yankees right now?

Um, I don't look, I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't think.

I mean, I think the Metz look absolutely fine.

No, I mean, listen, the Metz are have, they left what?

The 11 on base and they were one for 14 runs in scoring position.

Like, I mean, they, they, they've had opportunities and they,

it feels like they haven't gotten a big hit to kind of blow things open.

Right.

Trust me, Kevin.

If the Metz stink and when the Metz stink, I promise you, I'll be the first to jump on

that bandwagon.

I promise you.

Oh, by the way, too, other thing before we go to break here.

I am every time I watch when Devon Williams pitches well,

I am always shocked that he was so bad last year.

Yeah, because his stuff is filthy.

His dude, his change up when it's right is gross.

How good was he last night?

Oh, dude, I mean, they showed the slow moments.

And his wrist all bent back.

That thing is just, I don't know how you hit that thing.

Yeah, he's got filthy, filthy stuff.

Maybe, maybe I'll make you come around.

Maybe, maybe at some point.

I hope so.

Come on.

Let's get Devon Williams in the game.

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Is this Oscar?

That's right.

Oscar the Grouch.

The people in Boston when they saw Rick and through trash Adam,

they imagined him singing this song.

James E. emails in.

He says this kind of sounds like the plot for Goodwill Hunting.

Were you a janitor at Harvard?

I did get an Harvard.

Look at me, it wasn't a janitor there.

Yeah, I wasn't solving problems.

Yeah, I don't think this is what I probably could have.

That was a mind that the world couldn't even live without.

You blocked, like, vulcanized rubber with your body.

But how do you know my voice weighted smack?

I was just taking advantage of the one skill.

I mean, what if I really focused on my brain?

This is national honor society with a heavy.

So instead of just worrying about your physical,

you actually tried to be really smart.

Do you like apples?

Instead of making dirty bookmarks and senior advanced math,

maybe I was really honing in my craft.

It's not your fault.

How high up the academic rung do you think you could have gone?

If you was that mean?

I don't know, like, grade-wise, school-wise, like, career-wise.

Like, if you said, as the trash is being thrown at you,

you said, you know what?

I'm never going to have this happen again,

because I'm going to be a doctor.

You think you could have done that?

Yeah.

A doctor.

I could have been a doctor, yeah.

See, I don't think so.

Why?

I just, I don't believe it's real.

I like school.

I like school.

I was good at school.

Medical school?

Yeah, I was great at school.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They just let you in the Harvard.

They...

RJ, can you tell them?

You still have to...

They didn't...

Basically, they didn't let you into Harvard.

Harvard has a really good hockey team.

You were a really good hockey player.

Thus, they wanted you to play on their hockey team.

It doesn't matter.

They were not looking to admit you because you're big-brained.

You still need to fulfill certain requirements to get in there.

Yeah.

Do you really?

You know what?

Yes.

You know what?

Yeah.

You're exactly right.

They did not let you into Harvard, Rick.

You earned your way into Harvard.

Oh, my gosh.

That's my guy.

There you go.

Oh, my gosh.

That's my guy.

All right.

So, I'm battling for the people today and you guys are going to do glazing, huh?

Listen, I'm well on my way to a PhD in coaching.

Who needs this regular graduation?

I'm post-grad.

I'm killing it.

How do you get a graduate degree before you get an undergraduate degree?

Yeah, I wasn't aware of this as possible, but listen.

You're defying all boundaries.

You defying logic.

No, boundaries.

You push past boundaries.

I'm a trailblazer.

This is a good email.

That's a good part about Rick working with the trash.

Is it his job providing him with breakfast lunch and dinner every day?

Maybe that's why.

Maybe that's why I'm not shot.

I grab a quick sandwich out of the garbage.

Right.

I could explain if you say that.

You'll open up the receptacle and be like, oh, look at that.

Breakfast.

It's still run up.

Yeah.

That's a waste.

So people threw half-eaten burgers at you.

They hit you like in the upper neck and you have to go down and pick it up and throw it

away.

Did you ever take a nibble?

No.

Never.

No, never.

No.

We got into a lot of trouble.

I mean, it was not.

I mean, there were some situations that we had.

I had the one time I had the street sweeper.

Like it was one of the cool, you know, cool toys we got to use that would wash the bricks.

And that bad boy got away from me and went right to the parking gate.

Wait, you were using the street sweeper.

Would you have any lefty accelerator down?

I held the eye.

I think I panicked and I kept the button down and it ran right through the parking gate.

It snapped.

It snapped.

How did you get this job?

My dad got it for us.

Oh, your dad got it for you.

Yeah.

Who is us?

Me and Pete.

Okay.

Well, because he didn't tell us what it was.

He said, I got this great summer job for you.

You guys have walkie talkies.

You get to ride around in a golf cart.

I love it.

He didn't tell us what it was till we got there and realized that this is what it was.

And then we made the best out of it.

We almost got fired a couple times.

Then we had some kind of kept stealing our drinks, which wasn't great.

And then we decided it was also a good idea to take Brussels.

No, not Brussels sprouts.

It's another kind of sprout.

You put them on the like a sandwich will have like a fancy sandwich will have them on it.

All right.

And then we decided there was like boxes of those thrown away that we would put them

as a fun joke on our boss's truck.

Which he didn't think was great.

Well, real.

And is that bean sprouts?

Is it beans sprouts?

Is it beans sprouts?

Is it beans sprouts?

Is it beans sprouts?

Tancy sprout?

No, but like what kind of sprout would you put on the sandwich?

I don't know.

Not a Brussels.

Yeah, bean sprouts.

Not a Brussels sprout.

No, it was not a Brussels sprout.

It was the, you know what someone's talking about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was like long like.

Yes.

Yeah, long skinny ones.

Yeah, we threw those all over his truck.

Sounds like it was a good job.

Oh, it was fun.

We made fun.

I mean, we had fun with it.

I mean, listen, what are you going to do?

I mean, I'm scraping up.

I'm freezing gum and dig.

It was not great.

It was not a famous sprouts.

The alfalfa sprout.

I think that's it.

The mung bean sprout.

The radish sprout.

No.

The beet sprout.

The lentil sprout.

And the mustard sprout.

I believe it was an alfalfa sprout.

Alfalfa sprout?

Yeah.

Okay.

Boss didn't think it was funny.

He did not get a kick out of it.

Yeah, I wouldn't think.

At all.

He would.

Yeah.

I wouldn't think John Wood.

If you did it today.

I don't think John Wood, either.

Listen, I mean, you learn your lesson.

Not great.

We bounced back, though.

We apologized.

I think we had to wash his truck.

But he was fine after that.

Surprise.

That little bleep RJ always takes Rick side.

I don't think that's true, though.

I think that ever since he had the...

You guys had the back-to-back run-ins that he's been...

More on your side than my side.

The run-ins was well over a year ago.

I know, but he's now committed to never letting it happen again.

I didn't have a necessarily real problem with the run-in.

Like, I wouldn't promote the run-in,

but I mean, it's part of life.

I still love RJ, even if he was angry.

I think you need to keep it on ESPN.com,

but just add the commentary.

Here's what I think.

I think you should just shut up.

All right.

You're gonna allow me to run the pool the way I see it.

I don't think you have a problem with it.

I think RJ was disappointed in himself.

Is that your RJ?

Yeah.

When you attacked me verbally,

you were disappointed in yourself.

I've had to go through some growth moments.

And I think that's happening.

Working progress.

You're doing it right?

RJ only gives himself one a year.

Like, RJ, listen, RJ was fine.

Knowing that you have this special ability

to push something to the point where they want to physically attack you.

And he's like, you know what?

I'll give myself some grace.

One a year, solid.

He had two and two weeks.

And he's like, I got a problem.

The one time, remember how angry he wouldn't talk to me

in the rest of the show that one day.

He wanted to kill you.

I know.

Right.

It takes a real powerful man to push someone to that.

The rare 40 lost season.

I got a real problem, and I need to fix it.

Yeah.

If you want to look at it by the metrics of getting one a year,

I don't have one this year either.

No.

So we got to make it to 2027.

Maybe on, maybe on becoming less confrontational.

I was a man celebrated that five years.

That's the deal.

That was funny.

I can't believe that happened.

I don't think, I don't think that's the case at all.

I think that RJ is just, I think, RJ.

You think you think it's more of an RJ growth than a Dave growth?

Yes.

I got to tell you what, after listening to John Hardball yesterday,

I don't think anybody is going to be celebrating five years down the field this year.

No, I promise they're not.

I don't get that feeling.

When do you buy in?

When do you start to be like, you know what?

I kind of see why Dave is buying in.

Well, I do see what you're buying into.

I do.

I just, I just have a tough time getting to,

you're definitively going to win a Super Bowl.

I know you're just not a guarantee I get it.

It's hard to win a Super Bowl.

It's very hard to win.

Listen, you guys have been as good a team over the last decade as anybody

and you haven't won a Super Bowl.

But I'm buying what he's selling.

You seem like a real football team again.

So, so your RJ don't do the issue with this whole thing is the Super Bowl.

Tell him to his trap.

Well, no, so here's a thing.

Don't fall into his trap.

I'm not falling into the trap.

But listening to Hardball talk yesterday, I'm paraphrasing.

He was essentially asked the question.

What do you think about 2026?

And Hardball was like, I expect to win.

So he didn't say win what.

But he's not running from, listen,

we're trying to get our feet wet.

I went the first team again for the first time in two decades

and trying to get my thoughts together, get the roster, get to the draft.

And then we'll see where we're at.

No, he's talking about, I think we can do some things this year.

That's right.

So I'm taking my cues from him.

That's right.

And so am I.

Yeah, we know.

We get it.

We 65 or sooner or we also have,

I think the one real pressure point here in our J's,

R J's, you know, change or, you know, maturity is the,

is the Niners Giant's game.

Yeah, that would be the turning point.

That's going to be the pressure point.

If the Niners come to, to MetLife and you guys win,

I don't even care how you are.

Kick your ass too.

I don't even care how you win.

Feel going over time.

R J's Niners.

Oh, yeah.

I'm back here this year.

You know what the problem is though.

This year, we're kick their ass.

That's what we're going to do.

So I don't think that's even on the table.

But if you find a way to win the game,

then I will.

I'll be fully out.

I'll be like, you know what Dave?

You got the ship.

I follow you.

Whatever you think.

That's right.

I'll be like your, your North Star,

if the Giants win that game.

I don't, I notice I haven't.

Return that volley.

No, yeah.

I don't think we're going to come in here, dude.

Anything other than hope to win the game.

I know what's, you're going to come in here.

You're going to win the game.

You're going to give me a little smirk.

You're going to weigh your red, whatever.

Shmata that Monday.

And that's what I'm going to have to deal with.

It's Shmata.

Yeah.

You better, it better be more than just a red Shmata.

You better come in.

I want fully dressed up in the Niners uniform.

I miss the Shmata's on Monday.

You come in on Mondays.

It's nice.

But you don't necessarily feel the same way.

Like you watch the next loose to the thunder.

You watch the March Madness.

No.

You don't feel worse than makes you feel the most alive

by, by far.

On a Monday.

Yeah, especially on a Monday.

It can make you feel the most dead too.

Oh, yeah.

Not a can.

It does.

You can ruin your whole week by Sunday and four crushing.

Yeah.

RJ, I think you play once a week.

Right.

RJ, I think that you need to write some kind of strongly word

letter to your Niners as like a motivational thing.

Or maybe you try to contact somebody.

Hey, can I come into the locker room before this game

and let these guys know how important this is?

I think what's going to happen is all these clips that I'm accumulating.

Yeah.

That's folder of Dave video clips.

Maybe that Niners week for the Giants to start to start feeding those

over to California.

Hey, kick your ass too.

So that's the Shanahan.

Yep.

Because he seems thrilled right now with the whole going to Australia thing.

I agree with him.

I like where he's at.

That sounds like a great idea.

Said we said we're fired up for it.

It's going to be a nice trip.

Listen, we can just hope to break out the Shmata.

The Monday Shmata.

RJ, I hope for your sake that what Dave is expecting to happen doesn't happen.

And then you go into my stadium.

You take it over.

You and your red, you know, sweater Niners cheese eating fans.

It's going to be a tough Monday if Dave's team wins.

Relentless.

That's going to be bad.

You probably should take the day.

Yeah.

You could you could still take a day of paternity at that point.

Yeah, that's admitting defeat.

Can't do that.

Well, I think if that happens, I think I think I just have to have another kid and go missing for a little while.

Take a few weeks.

Take a few weeks.

A lot of days left over from that.

No, I just need.

Yeah, I'll just need a lot of paternity time.

Yeah, just do a Peter did.

Just take like a month long vacation.

Yeah, go to Europe after.

I wouldn't be able to imagine if this happens early in the air off to hear about for like weeks and weeks and weeks.

It's going to be terrible.

It really would be.

What this has done.

This has awakened an animal.

That's going to be like.

If this thing goes.

If this goes in the steady climb that he's expecting.

Like, excuse me, a grandma.

He's going to be impossible.

I'm eight or nine this year.

Playoffs next year.

And then, and then look out.

And then look out.

Bring it.

It's going to be bad.

It'll be real bad.

I'm coming for you.

I'm coming for you.

And when the time comes, I'm coming for you.

No, don't point at me.

There's no time to you.

There's focus on Raymond and RJ for now.

That's why I.

I know what don't.

I think his public enemy number one.

Yeah, right.

But you said John Dillinger of the show.

RJ, Mr. Wall Blender.

He's number two.

And then I won't forget about you either.

I know your comments.

I know your jokes.

You think you're so funny?

You're on the my docket as well.

Okay.

All of it.

I can't wait for that time to come.

He's going.

He's penned Santiago.

You name him.

Jefferson.

Everyone.

Very pent up.

Everyone.

You game right on pent up.

He just wants to point today.

He's just pointing at everybody.

You.

You.

You.

Get out of my way.

Oh, this is where he says kick your ass.

This has the potential to be so good and so bad.

You know what I've rooting for.

But I know exactly what you're rooting for.

But I'm.

I'm all in either way.

You're here for it.

I'm here for all of it.

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And Rick, like I said yesterday, it's so easy.

I believe there's a decent chance Antonio could get the app and listen to the Rangers game today.

Yeah, here's the thing, though, is I believe that.

But I also believe that like my kids just in general are much better with the stuff than we are anyway.

I think the best way to sell it is it's so easy.

Dave can do it.

But that seems mean.

No, but it's not meant to be mean.

People listen to the show.

It's so easy, even a grandparent can do it.

How's that as a slogan?

It's so easy.

Dave can do it.

No.

No.

Grandparents too wordy.

It just did so easy.

Dave can do it.

How about this?

It's so easy.

Even a bozo can do it.

No, because then that's the meaning to the person that I don't want to demean you.

This is not one of your things.

No.

No.

Okay.

There are things that I don't do well.

You just spent 15 minutes talking about how I'm not smart enough to get into Harvard,

and it's just strictly I'm just a dumb jock.

Who got it?

Because I can suck.

I don't think you're a no.

I think you are an intelligent guy.

I don't think you're Harvard material if you can't stop a hockey puck.

That's what you insinuate.

It is that I'm not very smart.

But suppose it was getting very upset.

But I think that there are things you do really well, grocery shopping.

I mean, I go with the vendors.

Yeah.

This.

And there are other things that aren't your strong suit.

Like using technology.

Technology.

Yeah.

I think that's fair.

Right.

It's just no one like what you're good at.

Well, you're not.

People that listen to the show or listen to the station.

No.

One of the things Dave's not great at because Sherry does most of it.

Or all of it.

His electronics.

Right.

But she's special at it.

So why if I have someone that's so special at it, would I not take advantage of that?

Wouldn't that be bad, the clock management?

No, I think that there's also like a you have this insatiable appetite for knowledge that

it'd be like, as good as Sherry is at it, maybe if I learned, I could be better.

She built a computer.

Oh, okay.

But I'm saying like, did that kind of stuff?

You could if you tried.

No, I don't think so.

Um, okay.

So you teach something going to break.

I want to play a game here.

I want to play.

How well do I know you?

And I want to guess exactly what you're going to say.

Okay.

Okay.

The person that you're annoyed with is Raymond.

That's right.

That's correct.

And the reason why you're annoyed is because for the last, I don't know, how many two weeks?

Weeks, right?

Weeks.

Is it fair to say weeks?

Weeks said, hey, guys, Atlanta's playing real good basketball.

They may be a problem.

And I believe just yesterday, just yesterday, I said, I don't want, on air, I don't want

any part of Atlanta.

Let's make sure that we avoid that match up and around one correct.

I think you pointed out the standings and then did say that, yes, okay, continue.

And then Raymond, during the last break, said, uh, I'm a little concerned about Atlanta.

I think Atlanta could be a problem.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

The very same issue I've had for weeks, Raymond is now just all of a sudden, as if he created

it on his own.

So am I allowed to defend myself here or do you just want to just want to pile on here?

Because it feels like I was one of those situations because no, no, because like I was saying

that well aware of what you said, it was, it was said to be more at formation of what

you were seeing.

It was, huh, I guess Atlanta is a little bit of a problem.

I wasn't declaring it as if I was some genius.

It was the first to say that people have been saying, and not just you, Dave, people have

been saying Atlanta is potentially a problem for several weeks now, but you know, we've

been doing this show long enough.

You know what Dave needs.

When you say something like that, it's, hey, Dave, you were right.

Yeah.

Atlanta's a problem.

I'm sorry.

No, no, you know what?

As a matter of fact, no, because I'm tired of having the acquiescent and make you feel

good.

You should, you should feel good that you, among many others, said Atlanta is potentially

a problem.

I was just reaffirming it.

That's all.

I don't know why you got to get so upset as this idea that, that spawned from your mind

is wild.

I didn't say that though.

Okay.

No point.

Did I say that?

If you were wondering, if you were wondering, did I even imply that?

Right.

If you guys were wondering right now, we would currently be playing Atlanta in the first

round.

Oh God.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'd get Atlanta Cleveland would get Toronto Atlanta's been a team that we've been

conversing about in the next radio booth for several weeks.

Well, I'm not in the next radio booth, right?

All right.

Well, there you go.

On these airwaves, on this show, among the four of us, for weeks, I've been telling you,

I don't want any part of these airwaves, you're king.

Actually, let me stop that.

I almost said something very bad.

They can always dump it.

No, I can't say the mix, the mix will be in Atlanta on April 6th.

And that's, that's great.

That's a, that's a peacock NBC situation.

Oh, terrific.

Yes.

You can watch.

Well, that's fun.

That's fine.

But I don't like my guys.

I didn't know the Metz game was on NBC the other day, the opener.

And you were panicked.

No, I went on peacock.

I was watching it on peacock.

I think that, I mean, isn't that, isn't that part of the deal, that if it's, like in

your local area, they have to put it on a regular station?

I don't think so now.

I think those big ones, I think, feel like peacock does that and it has me on NBC and

I think there's another one that does that.

Maybe it's news to me.

I don't know that that's the case, because it's not like, I mean, the Yankees are on prime

and only prime lots of games, but I think that's, but I think that's like a, like, a deal

that they made with, but this is certain amount of games that they, that the, you have to

give to the local provider.

All right.

Listen, I had no idea.

So I'm watching it on peacock and then Alex came home and he's like, why are you watching

on this?

I was like, because this is the only thing it's on.

He's like, it's on NBC.

Oh, this is not great to you.

You can't, it's too many things.

It's too many ways to consume these games.

Right.

You can't keep doing this, though.

What?

Because you're slowly chipping away your own sports credibility.

No, I'm not.

Yeah, you are.

You can't, you didn't, you can't have Alex walk in and be like, hey, dummy, what

are you doing?

Oh, this is the only place I can find.

He's like, no, it's on NBC.

If I, if I, if I wasn't, what, if he walks in and he says, dad, why do you not have the

meds came on?

I said, I can't find it.

That crushes my credibility.

No.

If I'm watching it, a different avenue, that's totally fine.

No, but the way the tone, I'm sure he just, the tone that you just had, it's like, hey,

oh man, it's on NBC.

peacock's not the only place you can find.

RJ, am I wrong?

Okay, he's doing damage to this.

It's like he used to be up here.

Yeah, I, this should be something that you can handle.

I can handle it.

It's not, but RJ, I was watching it.

Yeah, but there, it always feels like there's a, there's a, there's a caveat.

There's a, yeah, yeah.

Well, if we're going to do this, I, I got a problem here.

He's, he's recognizing that he's better than you and now he's just really leaning into

it.

What's your best bet?

Every mistake you make, it's just chipping away.

I want it to be better than me.

You want your kids to be better than you?

Yeah, I do.

Yeah, but you might get kicked out of your own house by yours.

Right.

He needs my money.

What happened?

Take it, still do that.

Maybe you'd be, just say he was going to take your job.

That's right.

It's going to take your job.

Right.

I'm sure at some point it'll probably take your bedroom.

He's going to take your seat wherever you sit.

He's going to be like, hey, get up.

He probably already gets the big piece of chicken.

He's the man at the house.

Yep.

I hate to even say that.

I don't, I don't see it like that.

Okay.

Let's see it like that.

So the Eastern Conference standings, Atlanta isn't a six spot like you mentioned.

They're a one game in the lost column behind Toronto, one game in the lost column ahead

of Philadelphia, two games in the lost column ahead of Orlando.

So from five to, I mean, we'll go as far as 10.

It's separated by four games in the lost column.

That's it.

That's it.

But we, I mean, in a perfect world, we'd like Toronto.

Yes.

I think if you had to put those four teams, Toronto would clearly be one probably followed

by Orlando, Philadelphia, and Atlanta.

Give me tomorrow.

I don't want, I totally agree with you.

All right.

So here's my question for you then.

Okay, okay.

Would you rather go to the two and have Atlanta in round one or go to the four and have

Toronto in round one?

I would rather take the two and have home two in Atlanta.

Well, because if I'm two, oh, so two or four, now I play clear, that changes everything

though.

Because now I get Detroit in the second.

It changes everything.

Oh, it's a good question.

It's a good question, but I still don't have home court.

At least two gives me home court in the service room to give you home court until the conference

finals.

Yes.

Yeah.

I think I take the home court.

You take the two.

Oh, because you roll the dice that you can beat Atlanta.

And then if you beat Atlanta, you have a huge advantage because now you're home against

Boston.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

I think that's probably the right way.

But I don't think it's a, it's a no contest slam dunk answer.

No, I don't think so either, but we come on.

Maybe what are we talking about?

We need to, there should be no question as to whether or not we win in round one.

I don't, I don't think that's a foregone conclusion.

I think Atlanta's a really good team.

No, I think Atlanta's good too.

I'm just saying like I, I couldn't even, you better, I don't want to live in a world

where we're losing in round one.

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Let's get to a call.

And then I know you have a read that you want to get to as well, max in the car, max

good morning.

You're on ESPN, New York.

Hey, what's up, guys?

Can you hear me?

What's up, Max?

Yeah, we're here.

Hello.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I got you.

So can you hear me?

We got you, buddy.

All right, my back, guys.

Okay, so I wanted to talk about the ABS real quick because I've been having some talks to

my buddies about it and it's getting a little bit heated, so you guys probably caught

a CB Buckner game where he got basically embarrassed back to back in the same event, but he got

embarrassed by Geno Suarez, who strikes out like 200 times a year.

So I'm watching this and I'm like, this guy cays at an incredible rate.

So of course, if he gets fooled by a pitch, he's going to tap his head because he's a

50-homer guy, too.

So a swing is so valuable to him, but of course, like, and the pitch ends up being literally

not kidding, 0.3 inches off the outside corner, and so he stays out there.

To me, that's a strike.

I mean, I'm sorry.

It's been a strike from a few years ago.

It's not a strike.

It's not a strike.

I hear you.

But Max, what becomes that line in the sandwich?

Okay, now it's too far.

It's not a strike, either.

I mean, it's pretty black and white.

If it's in the strike box, it's a strike, and if it's not, it's a ball.

Yeah, no, I agree with you.

I do, but then we can get into the box that you're seeing on your screen.

Pinpoint.

Right.

We're talking about point 3.

Yes, they all got measured.

I mean, they all got measured.

No, I know they did, but they got measured, like, some of them were six foot two, now there's

six foot tall.

We're talking about point 3 inches.

So, but I get where it comes from.

I agree with you.

It's just difficult for me four games in to be like, oh my god.

We're going to deal with this.

So, CB Buster is not going to last, but a report came out that he's like, you know, he's

not going to want to be behind the plate anymore for these games.

Is that, I mean, is that real?

All right.

Then we'll see you.

I mean, no, no, no.

I think CB Buster on real loss.

All right.

Thanks for the call.

No, it's not.

Right.

I mean, so, so, so then what?

He's going to, he's going to quit his entire career because he doesn't like the way that

they're doing automated balls and strikes.

Ah, listen, they agree to it.

Right.

I mean, this is, again, they have a union.

And this is something they agree to.

And again, it's not easy.

No one's saying it's easy.

But everyone wants to cause right.

So, all these guys, that's the, that's the most important thing.

Um, read for me.

Would you read me please?

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Very, very well done.

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