Hour 2: Power Structure of the Jets & Bart's Skin Routine

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Just so there's John Harbour. Apparently it's going to have training camp at the Green

Breyer in West Virginia this year with the Giants. But they're going to go to the

the cause they should do that sometimes too. Like when we were there, we used to be a

West minister and they would take a trip up to West Virginia. What's that famous battle that

happened there? You're talking about in Gettysburg and Pennsylvania. Yeah, we're just going there.

Okay. Well, this is like what is this? Remember the Titans? Maybe this has something to do with

the situation with the world cup too. I don't know when it's the world cup. Don't let the

world cup come bully you and use your playing field. No, it's not even that. It might be getting

money for that. You imagine how much money the world cup is going to get them. Maybe for the

soccer teams to practice on their grass field. Might be getting money for that. I don't know.

My name. World cup and construction are the reasons. World cup and construction.

Of what? Harbour price. This is New Jersey. What am I saying? I was going to say even

why don't I know when you say construction? That means construction, plant, baby, for the facility.

Because Harbour let me tell you something. He's used to coming from the castle. That's true.

And you go over there to the giant stuff. Yeah, it's kind of like y'all being a little cheap.

You know what I'm saying? He might as well say, man, I need better facilities. That might be

all part of everything. I need a new field. I want another field. I don't know if you guys

ever been to the Baltimore Ravens facility. Harbour, first of all, it's a $50 million and they

call it the castle. Got a putting green in the front. But he's he's added $20 million today

since he's got there. He's cut the building off and built added to it like three times.

Well, listen, whatever it is, it's interesting. First of all, Jordan Rodon was in here yesterday

and Jordan said, listen, off the earth, this was. But I don't think I'm betraying a confidence. He's

like, you know, whatever it is for the team is fine. I worry about how it affects me. How does

it affect me? Well, Jordan, you're spending your summer in West Virginia. That's how it affects.

Whole summer West Virginia. Now the green briar. I don't know if you get the I don't think Jordan's

going to get to stay at the green briar because that's a ridiculously nice resort. They can't

get the court yard. They can't get them a room. I don't know. So the whole team don't go.

Do you think the media, these media outlets are going to pay for reporters to stay at the green

briar where it's like 700 to night. I'm sure they should they should allow. Well, I think Harbs might

let you want to get their marry at points, man. I know those guys. I think Harbs, you know,

I'm saying if you, if you cover them correctly, might say, hey, man, we, we, we, we, we booked off

a couple of rolls because of a 700. They're going to give it to up with 300 because they sold out

for the whole day. Do you think they're paying 300 tonight? There's no. Don't talk about the day

pan 300. The media guys. Yeah. They're not going to pay 300 tonight. So what did they

to pay up in Albany? It's like a hundred bucks a night when it was up there. I covered the

giants back when they were going to Albany. You can find plenty of hotels that were nothing. So

it's a honey at that time. So up there, but I don't know what it's going to be in the middle of

West Virginia. I'm, let's just say it's going to be $25. It's going to be less than $200

and I had less than 150. Yeah. But what I'm saying is if I'm renowned, you know, I'm saying,

if you're going to cover 150, I'll pay 150 myself to be at the country club.

Hey, are you away from the family? You go away from the family? I know. You have to country club.

Oh, man. West Virginia. Let me check. I'm, I'm going to have to call some of my friends.

Uh, we call Randy Moss. See if they got any good strip clubs in Virginia.

Well, I'm sure you'll be able to find something. You're going to have to think is you might

be competing. So the price might go up. Well, they say that, you know, listen, you can find trouble

wherever you wherever you are. Yeah. But what I'm saying is when you got to influx of money in

it's going to raise the price and the locals get mad. Well, that's why the hotel rooms are going

to go up to when they're not paying 300 tonight for that. No chance. No chance. It's part in

Carlin. I ESPN, New York on the ESPN, New York, YouTube page. I wanted to go through a couple of

the things with Phil Sims from yesterday. But first of all, uh, Jake Asman on his show,

over on YouTube. And we've talked about how great of a job Jake does. And what I don't need to,

Jake knows what I think of him. You said ask me. Hey, Peter. Uh, Jake had Rich Semeni on and they

talked about how Aaron Glenn and Darren Moosey are now set up in the power structure of the Jets.

I do think Glenn carries the most weight in your organization. But I do think if this were to be

another disastrous type of year, assuming they drafted well this year, then I think Moosey would

be more of a long term guy for the Jets. The GM usually has more job security than the coach.

The coach is usually the fall guy when something goes bad. Certainly Aaron Glenn has put himself on

the line this year because there's no one else to get rid of. Moosey is no longer the sidekick.

And I think he's done a sneaky good job with what he's done so far to take to his show with a

track on in the background. No, he probably put it in the matter. Rottles and Florida. Lauderdale.

You probably put up the highlights. You know what I'm saying? Like playing over over the beat.

A little music. You got to turn your life. I don't hear your microphone. You think Bart's writing.

I can read lips. I said, I think Bart was right. It's good that our tech guy knows to turn his mic.

I was turning Tom's mic on by accident. No, I think he just does that for clips. Like how

everybody now just has music behind everything with TV. I think Jake does that now.

All right. I'm not knocking it. I thought it would be funny though if he did his entire show

with like a track underneath. I'm telling you like it'd be amazing. What our earlier crawler talked

about the boomer bus of our Bel Reese. Like I said, trying to project him to do something that he's

not used to doing in the growing pains. And then are you guys patient with him? Does he get frustrated

with maybe the lack of production because he's not good at what he's doing. He's learning

or do you just go belly? And then then no matter what, barely goes somewhere. And he flourishes

out of the spotlight of New York. And people are going to say, oh, man, the jets that don't walk.

But you know, this is a unique circumstance here. All right. So I don't, I don't, I think with

everything that that he brings as far as athleticism and the productivity, I much rather go with

belly. Give me the guy if we're talking. Now if Jermaine Johnson was still on this team,

give me our Bel Reese because I can say, okay, we'll play you there at times, but you can play

middle linebacker. But now with Johnson going, then that means if you get him, he's probably going

to go specifically to the edge day one. I think we're going to be able to find an exact spot a year

from now if this doesn't work out for Glenn as to where the power shift happened. And it's going to

be with the defensive coordinator stuff because now I'm just reading the tea leaves here. Again,

this is completely uneducated speculation. That's my favorite type of speculation.

Irresponsible. In fact, when you think back to last year, remember that Aaron Glenn got paid pretty

well as a first time head coach and held out for a good number. Like he's making north the 10

million from what we know, right? For a first time head coach, that's a big number. And if you held

out for that much and you go to Woody Johnson a year later and say, hey, I need 3 million, a higher

wink, Martin Dale or whatever that number would have been. And Woody says to you, well, hang on.

I'm paying you 10 and you're a defensive guy. Maybe you need to figure out how to fix this whole

thing. Instead of me forking out another 3 million. And I don't love that from a Woody standpoint.

But I'm not going to rip it completely from a Woody standpoint either because yeah,

if there's one thing that you can honestly say about Woody Johnson in the very positive way,

he has never been cheap. Ever. He has never been cheap. Like this has not been the will punish.

Okay. Let's not turn it out to be that he may not be the greatest owner of the world,

but it's never been about spending money. This crazy thing. Every move that the jets

have made since even when I played. That's been a move that anybody would have did. And he

able to pull it off getting Lady on bail. Getting Devante Adams. Getting Aaron Rogers.

The jets have had to pay a jets tax. Yeah. Getting getting getting on Brandon Marshall.

Like bro, every movie may when he made everybody. Oh, yo, that's dope. And then they want to hate

and then he's made the move. He he took the swings. Yes, he has. And he has given up the money

to do it. Correct. Because the jets are still in a position unfortunately due to some of the things

that are perceived about him. There is a jets tax that has to be paid in order to get them

to sign there. You know, there is a little we're going to see in free agency next week.

There will be guys that if they end up signing with the jets, I'm sure it's because the jets

gave them the absolute best offer above everybody else. Tell me this. Have you have

it? Have you ever went to blackjack table? And you do reckless stuff like split tins and stuff

like that every once in a while. It's funny. You bring this up. Last week I was there. I went down

to Florida for two days. Went to the I always try to go to the hard rock. Whether it's whether it's

you stand, you stand guitar. You stand a guitar. No, no, that's the one for Lauderdale. This is the

one in Tampa that you and me and Maggie went to. Oh, it's one in Tampa. Yeah, you and I

and Maggie went there and went to spring training one. Okay. So I was there. And I thought long

and hard. I can never do that kind of stuff. I never split tins. Let's take chances.

As he saw in a six. Exactly. Against a six. I'm like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to hit it

one. Hit it one time, baby. Am I going to do this? I couldn't do it. Did you ask the people at the

table? No. How many people you said about their play with three people? I would like for it to be

three people a lot of times. It's a lot more than because you hate when when you sit there and

everybody got a winning hand and to do one to split sixes. And then it turns out to be a two,

a two, a one. Yeah. And it's like, yo, bro, it helps his bus car. Yeah. You do get to take

because you split that's that's why I didn't split the tents because I was playing third base.

I would say that first base or third base. I think that would technically be first base.

The last guy to get the card. So so yeah. So my original point. I'm not going to screw over

the entire. I don't care where your point was. I'm talking black. I love black. Me too.

I'm terrible. I mean, I'm not terrible at it. But I love black. Jack. I just don't

have a last week. Last week, if I had one more, the dealers show more damn five or six that they

ended up getting to 20 on the name. I swear to God. Didn't they bring a cooler? Well,

nothing. You ever see that movie? The cooler? That's one you'd like. Yeah, I see. William H. Macy,

who is, you know, plays the loser guy that they went that Alec Baldwin running the casino would

bring over to the table and put next to somebody that was hot. He starts losing all the cooler. Yeah,

anyway. But Woody Johnson, when I was here, took major swings. Yep.

Bringing Chris Jenkins was a major swing. Alan Fanica, when people thought he was done and he was

retired two years after you only played for the jets for two years. And then the next year,

he was retired or you know, whatever happened there. Going to get San Antonio home. Big swing

could have could have ended wrong. Getting Antonio Cramardi, big swing could have ended wrong,

right? Going to get Braille Edwards could have ended wrong, right? And so, so like,

you give him credit for all the things that he did, but he's been consistent with who he's been

his entire time as the owner. Going to get Brett Far worked out, right? They just had the best

record before he tore his bicep. Yep. Get Aaron Rodgers didn't work out. But it's the same move,

basically virtually the same time guys that were at the end of that career, but had tremendous

careers had one Super Bowl, a bunch of MVP's and you convinced them to come to you. So,

what I want to say is people is low hanging fruit for the national media to always attack the jets.

But the same thing make you laugh, make you cry. And what I'm saying is the moves that Woody has

been making lately haven't worked out, but he's been consistently who he's been since the beginning

of when I was here and all the other moves, all of those moves worked out. Cramardi worked out,

and that was super controversial. San Antonio Holmes considered a problem and it was ran, you know

that it was right. It worked out some until it didn't. I mean, he won us two games and helped us

beat the Patriots. And then he quit on you. He was tremendous. Right. I understand that. Yeah,

but Braille and Edwards as well. Same thing. Like so, like maybe just maybe you sitting at the black

jack table and your luck starting to change. The problem is I got to hit a couple of 20s for that

for me to believe that. Well, the good thing is you're sitting at the table and you got three

hands because all the draft picks you got. And that's where I get reckless. When I start playing

three different hands and on and on. What did you got? Yeah, that's where I get out of hand.

So to speak. Look, it's not about what he being cheap. What it's about is they have to fight an

uphill battle with this reputation right now. We will see how this plays out next week at the

beginning of free agency. You hope that some of it starts to shift. We have been here before

where the jets have spent a ton of money in free agency. And it doesn't work out. And frankly,

a lot of times that is the case. I mean, if we're being truthful, it happened with the Patriots

under Bella check. They spent a fortune a couple of years ago in free agency. And it was a disaster.

Man, why don't you tell me over my arm? I'm sitting like a python, bro. Like so people don't know

you'll see like look at the thing. You see like here. I got. Yeah, I didn't see that a little bit.

I've been putting moisture on when I say I'm sitting like a snake. So I had to wear a mask for 12

hours. Yeah. And it takes all your skin off. Why did you wear a mask for 12 hours? Uh, it's,

it's uh, what's it? Are you exfoliating properly? I went to the dermatologist. Okay. So like, it's

like you can't tell when I woke up this morning, it was so many. Like I had to put that's my

forehead shining. I, if you look closely, I really meant to talk to you about that. You see my eyes

puffy. You see my eyes puffy yesterday. I saw it more yesterday. It looked like you got punched by

somebody quickly because because like I had to wear that mask for 12 hours. I could stay all the way up

to 4 a.m. And like it's taking all the skin up to 4 a.m. To wear a mask because I couldn't move.

I couldn't sleep. If I turn on it, it'll be all over the place. It's a mask. I had to go to a

plastic surgeon spot. Okay. So it takes, it takes, when I say it takes a deep layer of your skin off,

you can see right here. Like part of my face looks darker here. Yeah. This skin has a fell off

you. You see right here? All this like fresh skin. Yeah. When I say this stuff is like crack,

man, it's the cost a couple grand. But why, why are you doing it? Because I'm, I'm getting

an electrolysis. So this is for all the people out there that you know, I'm saying that understand

that you know, you got to take care of yourself. But hang on here. Before we get to that,

there is a line between taking care of yourself and maybe being a little too vain. But I'm not

trying to become like time Jackson or no stuff like that. So I black men look like a real house

wipe soon. I mean black, black men suffer from hyperpigmentation. So if we like, have you ever

seen a football player and it looked like he got a black mark on his forehead? That's because the

helmet rubbed against and what happens, our skin sends melanin to areas that it feels attacked

in and it turns it black. So that's why when you look at old pictures of Brickers off Ferguson,

David Harris, they used to have it bad. They had like a, like somebody took a shoe polish or a

paintbrush, just wipe they forehead, right? So, but also when black men suffer from

ingrowns, which is hyperpigmentation. So you get like, you have to see a guy look like he got a

five o'clock shell. Oh, look like you got a beard, but he don't. That's because the hyperpigmentation

creates a shadow around with a hair growth. So that's where it comes in for me. So this mask

is going to take all those off. It's like, it's about a month, right? I have to go through it. I have

to go back a month to get the second one. But it's, by the way, the YouTube views are going up

right now because everybody wants to see what the hell is going on with your face. It's pulling,

you can see right here. I'm red. Well, you had a little bit on your nose before, right? You got

rid of it, right? Little skin. No, what happens is I put the oil on so it's covered up. So

it dries out. You'll see it. It's going to, I look like a rattlesnake right now. I'm telling you.

So that comes off and then I have to use retina and then it's hypercord on 4% for like a month.

Right? I had to prep my skin for two weeks before I did it. But you can get rid of it and for

men out there of all colors, like you can get rid of it. But we women always invest in all this

stuff because men don't really care. And to me, men age way better than women. You know,

I'm saying, when I went back and saw my friends, I went to my boy stuff. All the fellas were still in

shape. Cockney's a wimble of like crap. You know what I'm saying? That's nice. I'm just keeping it

real. You know what I'm saying? But because we don't worry about like our skin, you know,

we guys worried about their hair, but we don't worry about our skin, which is the biggest

organ stuff like that, our teeth. You know, I got to take care of yourself. No, I get that. So

so this is going to pull it off. And then it's how let me it like, and I'm getting the

electrolysis permanent hair removal on my face. So then when so when but that's more of a health

thing. Yes. Well, so when the skin, uh, so when the skin clears and all my skin is back up

and the hyperpigmentation is gone, I can't, I won't get ingrowns because I don't grow hair on my

cheeks anymore because I can't grow beard anyway. Right. You know what I'm saying? So like,

if y'all see me, if y'all see me in the streets and I'm looking real flaky, just know that,

you know, I've had not just the the weak chemical pill, but when you, a lot of people go to like

these little men's spots, they tap you with a little little acid stuff like that. Not man,

this was like a mud mass that had to wear for 12 hours. Now if I can, um, second one, I got to

wear for 10 hours. Can I make a couple observations here? Yeah, please. This to me, I have to say

is the the most self conscious four minutes on the air that I've ever had with you ever between

now and even back then, I've never seen this self conscious about your skin. Well, well, this is

just like anything. No, no, I've had laser hair, but this is the thing. The only reason I'm

sharing is because I want men to know what's possible. Oh, I know. Like because like, I remember,

I remember like back in the day, like, and he finally did. I told Terrell, because you know,

Terrell sucks had teeth like dolphin, right? Like he, he had little teeth. He's like a dolphin.

Put, pick up a, pull up a picture of Terrell sucks. And pull up a picture of a dolphin apparently.

Yeah. Joy Porter had dolphin teeth too. So you know how you look, you can have little teeth.

Okay. But you got to say, I got all sisters and people around me, right?

I told Terrell and like, I'm known for always joking with people. I told Terrell, I said,

man, you know, you can get your gums pushed up. Because you can get overgrown for gums.

Right. I see that. And I'm like, bro, I'm like, you know, you can get your gums picked up.

Right. And like, finally, he did it because he thought I was playing, but I wasn't. I was

being serious because I know how self conscious people can be. And what the worst thing I hate

is when people are rich and they got money and they don't spend any money on

their self, they color look better than they, than they body. You know what I'm saying? So like

health is wealth, but also you should, you should be able to take care of things that you're

self conscious about. Let me ask you this. You see his teeth. Now pick up to put Terrell sucks

new teeth in. James Hardin. I almost wanted to smack the hell out of James Hardin. Man, his teeth

was so damn bad. I say bro. God, you are almost God. Him and Anthony Davis. Man, he had a whole

another roll of teeth underneath his lip. He had three rolls of teeth. Google, Google, uh,

Anthony Davis teeth. Google James Hardin teeth. That bear was covering up more than his face.

I call, he's called Will Smith. He's sharky. But again, there are a couple of more questions that I

have. Okay. Go ahead. Do you foresee a situation in the next five years where you're going to do

Botox? No, uh, none of that's 10 years. No, I'm not going to be that. I'm not going to do Botox.

This is my skin. This is something that I can't control. Like and you got to think this is something

that's repeated every time I shave two days later, I got ingrowns. I got to spend the majority of

the day picking with the tweezers. Yeah, this is the most annoying thing ever. I get all of this. Yeah.

But I would never call you vain. I would say that you're not vain. But I would say you are

very conscious of how you look, but it, but you don't go like I would say that Rick probably

is a little more vain. Yeah, closer to vain. Mine is mine is because something that just black man

suffer from. Michael and I would say this to Michael. Michael can be a little bit vain about how he

looks. Yeah. Michael's the type of guy. I'm assuming just being around him that would go get

capping plants. What do I don't know if Michael would go to the plastic surgery route? If girls,

if girls like, if girls like Rick, I can see doing Botox. No question I can see. Probably already

is. Maybe it might be. I don't know. But see, 44, like that's a little early for him. Rick, Rick,

Rick's shredded like a Julian salad, but I'm just saying like you have seen the guys go get a

peck in plants and all that type of stuff, man. They wouldn't do the work. Do you think I could

sell my caps to be calf implants? You could. And then you're, and then you're just put a zipper

on the back. You should get a zipper tattoo on the back. Well, so you don't foresee a scenario

where never that never never plastic surgery, never anything like that. No, no, none of that.

Okay. This is simply like I remember I couldn't see it either. And you, you don't really have any,

like if you see me for all, for all my brown out, like there are wrinkles here. But, but not,

like I can never see you doing Botox. I couldn't see that. I just took some skin. I take skin

out of it. But you have, when I say that you're talking self conscious about this, you cannot notice it

for I'm, I'm sitting five feet away from you. That's because I put a bunch of oil on my face.

So you can't notice it. But I didn't notice it earlier, but the red now, but if I was a little

bit on your nose, but if I would have came in here, if I'd have came in here, like I woke up,

you'd be like, oh, damn, what's wrong, man? Like you, you thought I was like, had radiation

poisoning or something. Like, all right. I'm on the GLP, right? But I'm doing that for more of a

health thing. Correct. You know, although I got to tell you, like I'm staying on the same

dose this month, you might want to do that NAD, man. I don't even know what it is. I hear she's

like it too. Thanks, Frank Thomas. So I got a wellness doctor and he said the new stuff is NAD.

See, that's what I'm saying. I don't get keep. I'm not going to come in here like, dang, Bart,

your skin look amazing. I'm not getting. Exactly. That's why that's why this is important for

this show because I want people to know things that the people in Hollywood won't tell you.

This is what they doing. They doing NAD. What does NAD? What is it? It's like a molecule that gives you

vitality, energy, you know, brain awareness. So it's human growth hormone is what it is. No,

human growth hormone or something else. Okay. It's a lot of stuff out here. You know what I'm saying?

And so like, I'm always going to come in here on this show and I'm going to say, hey,

man, I'm doing this and if you want to partake, but I'm going to let you know because I want

everybody to age. Well, I want everybody to feel well. I want everybody to grow. Oh, well, you

know, I'm saying. So that's why I come in. I say, man, I'm doing this or I'm doing that or I'm

on this diet or I'm fasting, right? Not because I care for y'all to be able to look what Bart's doing

because I never been that guy. I just don't want people to see me like sometimes they seem like

damn, you still like you can play. Yeah, let me tell you how I'm taking CMOS, right? You know,

CMOS, you know what I'm saying? CMOS, bunch of zinc. I tell them, hey, bunch of zinc in it.

I'm telling you guys what zinc do. Zinc, make your yin yang right? Right? Because I feel like that's

our audience. Like our audience, they want to talk sports, but they want to talk about life.

And a lot of them are our age. So I want somebody to see like, damn, partly young, partly good.

Yes, the reason why? Because I'm making sure I'm up on my nutrition. I'm making sure that I

spend my money appropriately. If I'm going to be on TV, you think I want to have a shadow on my

face, look this way and I got a bunch of like black marks, like look like I have old chicken chicken

pox marks. No, almost came out almost. Yeah, yeah, almost. You know what I'm saying? So, so guys,

that's what I'm doing now. I'm getting this pill from a plastic surgeon spot, which is way stronger

and you only got to get two of them and they pull so much layers off your skin. They tell,

look at this good Freeman. He got the Beijing game, man. He looked like he just had a skin pill.

He's talking about Marcus Freeman. Yeah, he looked like Sammy sauce right now. Have you ever seen him

that light? And he just got his teeth done. You know what I'm saying? Look at that. His teeth look

like Matthew Stafford. See, I'm going to keep it real. I'm going to call it out, man, because

everybody, because then what happens is you as a man, we the same age, you feel bad about your

damn self because I look better than you. Like, man, damn, no, it's because I spend my money that

instead of buying the new J's, instead of going to get the new rims, get out your face, baby.

All right, I'm going to refrain on commenting on Marcus Freeman, but I get the point,

which is him. He likes Sammy sauce. He'll like Sammy sauce. I'm going to lay off here.

That dude is not that color. That is not that dude's original. He was not that color into playoffs.

Look at him, because we had this thing with colorism, right? The Jamaican dude that bleached his skin,

and Sammy sauce and say he had nothing, but his skin is pollinated. Come on, man. I'm not,

I'm not blood. You know what you are right now? You're Brunson with tossing me the grenade. That's

what you are. Shot clocks and two here. Take this. No, I'm coming on it. I'm cat Williams telling

everybody what the hell really going on with these people. Hey, don't you have something there from

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I was just saying, I agree with Bart. It's definitely an enzyme. It's found in like every living cell,

but it helps with energy production and cellular repair. Essentially like all the celebs that are

in Hollywood, they're they're caring for this anti-aging sort of enzyme. And that's kind of

NADP, NAD, it's helping with kind of the energy form anti-aging. And it definitely helps with

right prior to exercise as well. But this is something that a normal person can afford.

Yes, I'm going to definitely definitely you a lot of people buy it over the counter.

There's just like another stuff. But we're talking about getting in a drip, right?

Yes, I mean, yes, $150. Carly, you got that, but you to go home and say, she'll like it too.

Like watch out, baby. I'm sure there's now like infusions and there's like centers where you can

get it by weekly and like set up like subscriptions for that. So I mean, yeah, I mean,

teach their own. There's ways like lifestyle modifications like dieting, exercise.

There's just another supplement that kind of helps build that.

Listen, see, you got to understand, see Tom still at the age where he can go back to back.

You know, saying back to back time, you go back to back time, but you have the

way to the morning, one and done and waited the way to you taking that.

It's not for you to find out. I don't want to find out, Tom. I don't go that way.

You're fine, back to back. Back to back me, like, hey, wait, wait.

He's like, I'm saying it's not a time round two.

No, I got what you meant. I'm talking about twice within 30 minutes.

I got it. I got it. I got to drink some milk, taking that.

But now when I get that in a deal, my sister, baby, I'm going to date.

This is going to be my first time ever taking it.

I'll see you next week. Drift, drip. Everybody say drip to drip.

Audio files. Let's go.

We audio file. I feel like that entire segment. By the way, Dave just texted.

Rothenberg radio. I didn't know we needed.

What you doing now? How you doing? Hey, I bet you this. I bet you he Googled NAD.

Industry agency.

You know, as part did say the other day.

Yeah, baby. I've always been above average.

That's great. Don't need to bring all that back.

Nipple clamps.

Already. Who's better than me?

Me, that's who.

That's my favorite one. That is so good.

Scabby, my favorite bar shop of all time right up there.

That is right up there.

There we go, baby.

All right, let's go.

All right. Well, who's better than the nicks?

The Thunder were unfortunately last night with a three point win over the New York

nicks. Mike Brown had some fiery comments after he got teed up in the first quarter.

Because SDA looked like he kind of charged into Jalen Brunson in the refs society.

You know what? We're going to hold that whistle and not call anything at all.

Me, the nicks couldn't challenge it. That sucked. Mike Brown on SDA drawing fouls.

SGA is a tough cover and he does a great job of convincing the referees.

Probably better than anybody in the lead that he's getting hit.

Brunson's second, who's better than Brunson?

Brunson gets the same call.

Just wants the MVP and wants a champion.

You have to admit, the non offensive foul on SGA was a joke.

Correct.

But when you the MVP, the raining MVP and the raining champion,

because it was a foul, it was a foul.

It was a foul that the nicks had to date and call it when he knocked the person down.

Maybe listen, come on man, I don't want to hear no crying.

So you're going to get the benefit of the doubt.

Yes, because I'm better than you.

That's just usually that usually happens.

It's not like SGA has just been good for a year.

He's been good for a while.

So he's earned that and he's a high profile player.

Kobe got it.

Jordan got it.

Iverson got it.

The brick, brick gets it.

Like, that's what happens.

If you want to get that call, Brunson, go check somebody else.

Go check Luke Dorr.

Next, they'll file his ass out like they did yesterday.

Oh boy, just to play devil's advocate with Mike Brown.

He not only took shots at SGA, but he also did say,

you know what guys, regardless of the refs.

You know, one of the things that I wanted to get a call star,

the guys is we're good enough to win despite whatever the officials are calling out on the floor.

And we need to have that mentality.

And I give our guys a lot of credit.

I'm not going to blame the refs for the loss, but it didn't help.

But you blame them, but you blame them first.

Whenever you say I'm not going to blame the refs for their loss, but come on.

The bull are blaming.

That's not why they lost the game.

No, it's terrible in the first half.

I was going to say you, if you start slowing the first half and you get out squirting three quarters

of the game, then guess what?

Don't go out of the game expecting to win.

It should be a period, not a semi-calling, continuous sentence.

The chat right now is just on fire with everything.

Bart related.

It is that was 10 minutes.

We will never get back.

Smith, I'm awake and speak English.

Yes, I know what you're saying.

What else here?

I take pretty good care of myself.

Still have real abs at 72 self-care is hard work.

Listen, from John Drummond, you know, John, John, shout out to John, because guess what, John?

I got to untie my age.

So you know what kind of stock I come from.

My grandpa was still laying the pipe.

He traded my grandma in for a younger grandma.

Dying all out Monte, standing ovation for Bart.

Let's see here.

There's a couple more.

Somebody please free Carlin.

Carlin for real.

Carlin can't get a word in edgewise.

I wasn't trying to.

Once Bart gets going, you let the stallion run.

Hey, but Leo, let the stallion run.

But just for the record, Leo, you saw what I was talking about.

You don't got to say that.

Just say what you saw what I was talking about when you was talking about Marcus Freeman.

Yeah, Joe, you saw it, right?

You know exactly what you say, Joe.

I'm setting you up here, Joe.

I'm just going to tell you what you're up here.

You can do your own research on that one.

That's all I'll say.

Okay, well, just watch Good Morning football and check out the clip.

And he looked like Sammy, like he looked like

Sammy saws it before and Sammy saws it after.

My best job, Bart is on fire right now.

All your D33Z.

All you really need is the healthy diet,

sleep and water, and that's crap.

Yeah, water, water my ass.

Yeah, I love the people with that.

Hey, you look amazing.

What have you been doing?

I'll just drink and water.

Shut up.

Now, sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep is good because it allows yourself to repair

why you're resting.

But come on, man, water.

Water is part of first of all,

when people don't realize it, you don't even get the majority of your water

from your from drinking.

You get it from your food.

Okay, we don't need to go that deep into it.

Next, we already got into the NADs.

I don't need to hear a lecture about water.

I've been drinking a lot more water since college,

and the pounds haven't gone the way.

So I don't want to hear anything about the water.

You got to put some limonets on the apple side of your water.

You're drinking some tap water from New York.

I prefer some spring water with some pH to it, huh?

I'd prefer from New Jersey, but that's just me.

Tim Bond, temps, was on DHR,

he had some great things to say about the nicks

in the road to the finals.

I know they've struggled against Detroit,

but I don't trust Detroit in the playoffs.

I don't trust James Hardin, the calves in the playoffs.

Let's see what happens with the Celtics.

I would probably pick the Celtics as of today,

but I don't feel great about that either.

And the nicks probably have the most talent.

So I would say, well, I understand the frustrations.

They are 15 and four in their last 19 games.

They have been a very good team.

And if they make a run in the playoffs

and they're playing in the finals in June,

then all is going to be well with my 15 and five now.

If we were going with most talent,

Cleveland got the most talent.

James Hardin is a Hall of Famer,

Jonathan Mitchell,

Moby, what do we talk about?

I wouldn't go like say that the nicks

are a more more talented team.

No, I wouldn't say that.

I wouldn't say that.

How many all songs did the nicks have this year?

Two.

Every else had two as well.

Listen, overall Oklahoma City is still the better team.

We know that.

Do I feel like they wouldn't have a chance

if it was a matchup in the finals?

No, I don't feel like at the beginning of the year,

I felt like the nicks wouldn't have a chance.

I don't feel that way right now.

That's because you already see him with Jalen Brown.

I mean, Williams.

Jalen Williams.

Next.

One more from Tim Bond.

Hempsel, let's see if you agree more with this from him on DHR.

What do you worry about with the nicks?

The nicks under Tom DeBito had a very clear identity.

I don't think this team has a very clear identity.

Under Mike Brown, I think that's part of the

where people get frustrated with the inconsistencies

in their play.

It is why, like I even said, on Sports Center today.

Like they are 15 and four in their last 19 games.

You should be excited about that.

But then three of the four losses in there

are loud, ugly losses to teams

you're fighting in the Eastern Conference standings.

And that, you know, that is the kind of thing

when you talked to Don before about the games people remember.

Like when the standard is,

we have to get to the finals for the first time since 99.

The games that are going to stand out

are against the teams that are going to be in your way

to get to the finals.

I want to be clear.

He's 100% right about that.

That is what the standard is going to be.

And I got what he was saying about Detroit earlier

in that it's the same thing that Bart has talked about.

You worry about Detroit being able to score when they have to.

Now, all of that aside,

while that sound bite was playing,

Bart was rubbing his face.

And it now, now like the dead skin's coming off.

Like, could I'm trying out?

Yeah, I, but you were fine before you started rubbing it

all the way up and down on your face there.

That's it tonight.

I can see I can see I can see I can see.

I've rubbing it all of my face.

Don't play Paul.

No, did he, man?

Well, that's it.

The dropless.

Yeah, but like now you got dead skin all over the place here.

Come on.

You're killing me.

But a good thing is I don't have good.

Look at how you get a giant piece of dead skin now on the side of your nose.

So at one point, we had toenails on in the studio.

And now we have dead skin.

How am I not supposed to blame you for the toenails when this is going on?

Well, first of all, that's where it does come from.

Dead skin cells.

I don't know if you ever realized that time.

Come on, man.

Be better than that.

Of course, I'm just creating dust.

Yeah, but you're doing it.

No, I got it all.

You're intentionally.

No, but just understand.

Like you don't know how.

You got a big piece right on the edge of your nose right now.

Quick, bro.

You don't.

Oh, my mom says stop picking.

But mom, yes, mom.

You're right.

Please stop picking.

It's me saying and I do it on my head.

No, what happened is it's drying out.

I don't have no more moisture rise.

So it's starting to itch.

And then chat, Bart, what the hell?

This is a health hazard.

My god.

Mom, I'm going to be cute.

I'm going to be cute.

My somebody else is saying

Bart's going to look like so said a week.

It made.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

This is somebody else said that.

Not me.

It was in the chat.

No, this is this is not bleached.

This ain't bleached, baby, because I got that.

I'm just revealing this beautiful melanin underneath.

Bart is guilty.

Oh, god, this is awful.

Black metronome.

I know.

And he's got all he's got all the vomiting.

No, no, no, no, no, no, Metro dome.

And I'm trying to hook you up.

I'm telling you what it is, baby.

I don't even off air.

I'll even tell you where to go to get it.

Tom.

Anything else?

Yeah, I do.

I think you'll like this one.

This is from the Pat McAfee show yesterday.

Right.

A favorite quarterback.

There we go.

Yeah, talking about his free agency, Aaron Rogers.

Well, I mean, what do we sit near?

It's March 4th.

Fransley starts in a week.

I'm going to spend a lot of time with my wife.

We went on a ski trip just been laying low.

There's a lot of other things going on.

A lot of other situations in Malibu that have changed

some things.

But I've talked to Mike.

I've talked to Omar.

There's been no deadline.

It's been put in front of me.

There's no contract offer or anything.

There's nothing that I'm having to debate between.

I'm free agent.

And again, I'm enjoying my time with my wife

and enjoying this part of the off season.

Now just wait till they sound Malibu.

Wait, wait, hold up.

Wait.

If they sound Malibu, he only has one place to go.

I would one place to go.

I cannot tell you how happy it would make me

if at 12.01 on Monday,

Steelers, Simolek Willis.

It would be amazing.

I'm holding out for Aaron Rogers just for you.

God, that whole thing.

There's no deadline.

There's no contract.

Oh my God.

And it's going to be June.

Well, what is it?

March 4th.

Three, three, three, eight.

You should see as we start.

Yes, I'm above the law.

Did you guys trade for Jonathan Smith?

They just really last year.

They just caught them because they created like

nine million in cap space.

Hopefully, the Simolek Willis.

That would be nice.

God, you still got to hold.

You still got to hold as defense.

That's I know.

I know.

I bet you yo ho.

I'm the one who's sitting here to hold you.

Yo, defense on NAD.

They might be.

Is that going to help him play better?

Well, is that legal?

Well, TJ Waddle, some other stuff.

Just get 25 sacks.

I don't care.

Just go.

This is where I'm at right now.

But that's not going to happen.

I told you the whole team's a tear down and nobody wants to admit it.

But Captain dumbass there is going to hold us up for another two months.

And we're going to let him do it.

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And trade with the Bears.

Oh, I think Bartrow Diamond said that one too.

I know you said the Giants.

Let's settle down.

You haven't predicted every single thing ever.

No, I said DJ Moore to the bills.

It's a cheap way.

I said,

Is there a trade that you haven't said?

I mean, I'm trying to give you as much credit

as I can.

I don't remember that one.

No, because I've been around long enough.

I think you were gone.

I think you were on VK or you were so well.

No, no, because I said Rome's the dunes

and Luther Burton.

Like, it's just a natural progression, right?

You knew that all three of those guys

weren't going to be at the state there.

Yeah, this is from Adam Shaftor.

Compensation still being discussed.

They're looking to finalize it.

But it does not say exactly what it is as of yet.

DJ Moore, but still to me, that's not enough.

Because at this point, he what was his numbers last year?

You said I'm saying like they were certainly down

because Luther Burton starball.

Yeah, exactly.

But that's what I'm saying though.

The bills are stupid.

That's that they need a AJ Brown or better type of guy.

They need a guy like like digs.

Yeah, you have to catch his last year.

Right. So like when digs came.

So like they think that's enough to you

can't try and have as your way to a title.

Like you have to go all in.

Like if you either go, if you can't go go all in for for

for Josh Allen, then what are you doing?

That's that's not enough.

Like they think and he's going to be that

Antquan Bowden.

He's still like he's at this point.

He's not scaring nobody over the top.

Put it this way.

You still need somebody else.

DJ Moore is not going to be enough there with what they have.

Right. Are they going to drive somebody?

What I'm saying is there's been all the talk about

whether or not they're going to trade a way key on Coleman.

But here's the thing.

They're going to trade key on Coleman.

You don't cut him.

You don't you don't trade a first round draft pick

that has shown flashes in two years.

You still got him on a control for three years.

It sounded like he was a problem.

It sounded like he was a major problem.

Okay.

For as much as that was what I'll take him 10 cents on the dollar.

But then now you got to replace him.

Last year played all 17 games.

Only 50 catches 682 yards.

13 six catch and six touch them.

So that just means when when Caleb was scrambling around running around,

he was the guy that out at one point.

I had one bear's person call him a gadget receiver.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like like is Debo Samuels.

You talk about see this is why Debo should have fought more

for his contract earlier.

Because now he's in he's in he's in what year three.

I mean, he's in he's about to turn 30 and Debo is done.

People think Debo is done.

Like all that stuff that he was doing before doesn't work.

And he's only 30.

Yeah, that's an issue.

Meanwhile, Mike Evans.

Mike Evans gets something.

I think this isn't just.

Damn, look at this one.

Look, look, I short.

Ruben Banks aren't looking.

You know, he touches me.

I think it's I think it's the thing with DJ Moore

is just let's throw something up against the wall and see if it sticks.

But that's my point.

Like if you do better, you know, right?

If you're going to go for go for like make the trade for AJ Brown.

Right.

Give up that compensation for somebody that's still in their prime.

They're also making the point that DJ Moore also played for Joe Brady

when he was the Panthers OC.

That's still still and had a career high had had had nearly 1200 yards.

Yeah.

I mean, how many how many years ago?

That's six years ago.

Yeah, it's 2020.

I listen, I agree.

I agree.

Like we remember, we don't love DJ Moore's player.

I do, but the numbers were falling way off.

And there was a reason they picked Luther Burton.

And it took him a while this year to develop.

You can't go through.

You can't go with who you who you think somebody used to be.

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