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The Yankees started their season with a win, we run through an edition of Knobservations and a hilarious DIHIF story!
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You know what I do?
The people that are in our way trying to hinder our greatness.
That's my favorite.
Take him down.
That's love that one.
That's not just one that's when a malt like a lot of people try to get in your way.
Somebody I guess on AI made the t-shirt.
Look at that.
Turn your mic on.
Nobody can hear you.
My mic is on.
I don't think it was.
You wandered off mic.
Yeah.
You moved from the mic.
Sorry.
I'll move with my.
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
That's the shirt.
Yes.
That's it.
That is the shirt.
So among the pre-game festivities last night.
That's great.
For the Yankees take.
Send that to me.
Okay.
For the Yankees take in their first step to go in 162 and 0.
Somebody was out there.
It did this.
This actually went into the game as well.
Somebody was out there that we don't typically hear from in the baseball world.
And that was Mr. Barry Bonds.
And Barry.
This is that I believe after the game.
I already started.
I got a couple things here.
I'm not flex yesterday.
I told a story that he was a lot closer to being a Yankee than we ever knew about.
When you came here, Barry, there was so much discussion of the Yankees being interested.
You ever think back in a what-if sense?
What if I was a Yankee?
That's short porch.
You might have had a thousand home runs.
I don't.
You know, I got to tell you a story because George isn't here anymore.
So I can tell the truth.
Well, I would have been the Yankees.
But Strandburner got on the phone and it called us and they told me,
Mary, we're going to give you the money, the high-paid player at that time.
But you have to sign the contract by two o'clock this afternoon.
And I said, excuse me, and I just hung the phone up.
Wow.
And I went to go get lunch and my, you know, Dennis Gilbert, my agent, and we're like,
what do you know you just did?
I'm like, did you know what he just said?
I just said, forget it.
And I went to go get, by the time I walked down the street to go get lunch,
I said, let me just think about this.
The giant's calling me and I said, I'm not going home.
You, you really believe that he hung up on George's time.
You, I mean, I, you, George, you think George called instead.
I'd like to make you the highest paid player in all of baseball.
I needed to answer by two and his response is click.
I can only go off.
You can't just be.
You can't just answer that.
I mean, he said that he's going to tell the story now because George is no longer with us.
But maybe it's George can't refute that this is not true.
And thus I will tell this fictitious story.
I mean, listen, if you wanted to go into it, if you wanted to go into a court of law,
I mean, he's someone who you would, you would certainly question his credibility based on his past.
It was, it was, it was a cream, RJ.
So I mean, clear.
If we were before jury, yes, I think you'd have a strong chance at winning this area.
I mean, how many people, like, really, they hang up on people?
Like, important people in their place.
I think it would also depend on the tone of the conversation.
Right.
If I called you and said, hey, like, and gave you this, this ultimatum,
and you didn't appreciate like the tone or how you were like, it was something like a threat.
And maybe hang up.
Hang up.
I don't know.
Let me, let me call my age.
I love how we're just to get back to you.
But we just glance over the fact that, you know, Barry bonds isn't in the hallway
because of the whole steroid thing.
Yes.
Yes.
Forget just the short.
He had bonds and a rod together.
He's been ostracized.
He has to get all that off his chest.
He doesn't get it, though.
No, no, Barry actually makes sense.
Not David Ortiz, who's actually in the Hall of Fame.
Well, yeah, but David, I don't even bother by that, too.
That's one of those ones because he actually had a failed test.
That they said wasn't whatever.
How they wanted to spin it, but...
Well, I just find it curious that all these people, they pushed the outside
and they don't want them in the Hall of Fame and they don't want their records to count.
And, you know, we're fine with that.
Let's bring them in to give the in there now.
Right.
But we're fine having you talk about the sport because you're qualified to talk about the sport
and promote the sport.
I mean, for free.
But we're not going to recognize you as a Hall of Fame.
And by the way, you're 100% right.
I agree with everything you're saying.
It's just like, you know, ostracized on the sport, but they're still front and center.
Barry Boggs, yeah, he's not, but, you know.
Well, that's because he chooses not to be.
Right.
I mean, this is what I ever wanted to do.
I just, I think that, like, they should be in the Hall of Fame.
But it should be talked about as the greatest to do it.
Yes.
It plays the great hypocrisy of baseball because they totally embraced these guys when they were at the top of their game.
Right.
Or they, I mean, they totally embraced all the home runs when you knew the baseball was juiced.
Right.
Or how about the Mart McGuire?
When they knew what he was doing.
They knew all of them.
And then they loved it.
McGuire had just so subbrought baseball back, right?
Yep.
Whatever serves their best interests.
Well, maybe it had somebody to do with Barry Bond's told a different story.
I just started with Aaron Judge being a great teammate and went from there.
Let's go back to the word team.
We always talk about teams.
But all of a sudden, we're talking about one individual that plays on a team.
That also wears a C on a shirt that's captain of that team.
And we're missing how much he brings to that team.
And he puts them in the position that they're in.
If you want to talk about teams, that's the man I want on my team.
If you want to talk about character, that's the man I want on my team.
And we all are responsible for our own jobs.
And I'll go back to myself with all the criticisms that I've been through.
On that field, I'd like I say.
I may not have talked to anybody off the field.
That was just me, right?
But on that field, I was probably the best teammate you would ever have.
I took more walks for my team, got on base for my team,
and that's what baseball is about.
And Aaron Judge brings that to his team every day, year in and year out.
There's a lot there.
There's a lot there.
You know what another thing is that annoys me about bonds,
because he just mentioned it.
He might have been a, I don't even know if he was a great teammate,
but might have been good around his team.
To the media, he was horrendous.
He didn't want to talk to anybody.
He was belligerent.
He was difficult.
But now he's thrust into the role that he despised for all those years.
I took more walks from my team.
Look at me, Mike.
I wouldn't speak to anyone really, but I'm glad you got to walk.
That sounded like, remember that Nike commercial Leon?
Yes.
There's no I in team.
They know we either.
You know, I'm glad you brought that up, though,
because I think that ties into what we were just talking about.
Why some are welcome in and some are not?
David Ortiz.
We decided we love him.
That's a difference.
Right?
Very bonds telling you.
I was not a great guy in the clubhouse.
He was awful to the media.
But that's it.
Ortiz played the game.
Barry didn't play the game.
Ortiz highly likeable.
Who doesn't like David Ortiz?
Everyone loves everyone loves it.
But he knew how to play that game to get everyone to like him.
Even people that should not have liked him.
Well, I will say that there is a skill to that, though.
Right?
I mean, becoming imminently likeable
and having people want to give you the benefit of the doubt,
there's something to that.
Bonds can't.
Can't was the worst.
They didn't like each other.
Well, hated each other, yeah.
It bothers me that I actually am entertained
and I enjoy watching David Ortiz.
Something like the 12-year-old version of myself gets really angry.
But he's good at it.
But he can't deny that he was a great player.
And he's entertaining.
You can't deny that he's a very entertaining announcer now.
Well, I don't think it's very entertaining.
But he also is great.
But you also can't deny that there's a clear line
of where he didn't do much to a certain time in his career.
All of a sudden did a lot more.
Right.
And then he was it.
He was nothing.
He appears on certain lists.
Yeah, right.
And we don't care.
Yep, we decide we don't care.
Well, I don't know if it's that you don't care.
I think that, I mean, when you start talking about who's in and who's not
and these people that make these decisions
and want to pretend like feelings aren't involved or so full of crap,
it's those same people will will also tell you when they're not just, you know,
trying to, you know, explain to you why they didn't vote for somebody like that.
I had conversations with reporters before.
I've had like good relationships and bad relationships with.
And it's like for them, it's like, I'm trying to do my job.
You're making it hard for me to do my job.
So when I need to do you, you're, you, you aren't cooperative.
But now you need me.
Why?
So now it's my turn to get back at you.
I think I'd have more respect for them.
If when they asked them why didn't you vote for so and so is it.
I just didn't like the guy.
Yeah.
Yes.
T.O. I mean, I just didn't like the guy.
He was mean to me.
Oh, that's a thing.
It matters though.
But that's the thing you, I'm telling you right now, this is the advice I would give to people
is that you learn is that I guess you go through this ascension
and you get to a certain point and you decide you want to be a jerk
and treat people a certain way.
Like at some point, there's going to be a way down
and you're going to eventually like, you'll come across a person
that you're going to need.
And again, not that you need to, you know, soften them up
because you're going to need to be.
But just be, and a lot of these guys, they're just not, I mean,
barricades.
And by the way, self-immittality was not a great guy.
That's not the reason that you should be nice to people.
No, just be nice to people.
Correct.
But as you see, the world, not everyone is nice to everyone.
Right?
Right.
But their mindset, I think, is, is I don't need you,
so I don't need to be nice to you.
Which is embarrassing.
And then all of a sudden, when it flips,
because especially as a professional athlete,
you've probably last so long, and now you're looking for, you know,
a job now on the other end of it, it's like,
Right.
No, but he got it.
And that's the problem.
They all get it.
Right.
But those guys got it.
I think he got it.
But those guys are so, those, or T's, or T's,
because he played the game right.
Right.
But I'm saying, those other guys are just,
Hey, Ross, just too good at baseball.
Not too.
He's, he was great at baseball.
And he's, he's actually entertaining and enlightening
as an announcer.
But it's just curious, this was a guy that closed havoc and hell.
Both of these guys, and now this is, this is what they do.
Right, but it's also the reason why he's not going to get his number.
They can't make it.
So there are, there are, well, I mean,
there was a time where Yankee fans despised Alex right
to be his.
He was suing the Yankees.
Right up until the end.
I went to his final game.
That game was so awkward.
Yeah, he had a double.
And I, and I went, I remember texture,
because I was working the, uh, the old K show.
And I think I bought tickets day off for like $32.
Like, decent seats.
Nobody cared.
They weren't even market.
They weren't even marking his baseball.
Nobody cared.
No, nobody cared.
Did you see the documentary on Alex?
Yeah.
I think HBO did, I think it was HBO.
It did like the two part documentary recently.
Really fascinating.
Um, I think he's also, but I think he was also humble to the point
where people were like, okay.
Yeah, he, he, like he, it was definitely humbled.
He got enough.
Yes.
Uh, Adam Silver.
What's talking yesterday about where the NBA's at?
Tanking teams.
What he intends to do by it.
The competition committee started earlier this year
re-examining the whole approach to how the draft lottery works.
There have been lots of different ideas out there
over the years, not just necessarily changing the draft lottery odds
yet once again, but looking at whether there's a better system here
to try to align incentives.
The point about this year, when you look at totality of the circumstances,
I mean, of course, I'm paying attention to what's happening.
And the perception is you have a very deep draft class this year.
A perception that the next two years draft classes aren't as good.
There's no doubt that's affecting the behavior of our teams.
Do you give Silver credit for reacting?
Or is this because the noise has gotten so loud he just now has to do something?
Yeah, to say something.
Yes.
Probably more that.
Like it's also.
It's, it's a major problem in the NBA.
Well, but it's already, I mean, the regular season for the NBA is already a problem.
It's already diluted and then you have a quarter of the,
right, third of the teams that are trying,
trying to lose.
And I think herein lies the biggest problem though is,
is you have the best teams in the league that have taken load management
to a point now where it's affecting the sport.
So we have to have the 65 games and all these different incentives to play.
Right.
And then we have the other end of this thing where the teams are so bad
and you have a really good draft with their actively trying not to win.
So you have a bunch of teams that don't care if they really win
because they don't really get me in the playoffs anyway.
And other teams that are actively trying to lose.
Did you see, obviously, it's a rhetorical question.
You don't know that we saw it.
You did.
The way was it, was it Friday, the way the next net game ended.
I just can't get over that.
The, the, the shot off a timeout.
You have questions about that.
See, so you take a time on, you can advance the ball to mid court.
Right.
And you, the, the drawn up play is to go back into the back court.
Yeah.
And he's up on a 58 footer.
That's the play.
That was the play.
It's shocking, really.
I mean, the nets have come this far.
You know what they're doing.
And they're, they're close to achieving their goal,
which is having the best lottery ends.
Like they're closing the gap.
This is a, uh, this is a hell of a draft, too.
I know I mentioned it before.
This is a.
Yep.
Um, Brian Hodgson.
He's a new coach of Providence.
Have you?
I saw it.
Yeah.
All right.
That's not hard probably with you guys.
You guys have seen everything.
You're so well.
Because I mentioned this to him yesterday.
I was like, this is, this is right up your alley.
You saw the one he recruited her though.
Yes.
So he was talking about anyone that may question his ability
to recruit basketball players.
I want to thank my family, my better half,
my, my beautiful spouse here.
Jordan, my son, Jack, who you'll, you'll hear plenty
throughout this speech.
If you ever want to question my recruiting abilities,
just, just take a look at my wife, Jordan.
Uh, that's a great line.
That's a great line.
It's a great line.
It's a great line.
It's a pretty good line.
I don't, you think he expected the, uh,
applause?
The applause like that though?
I think he waved.
Probably not.
Like those were rosy.
Well, you know what?
Wow.
I didn't, like, relax guys.
I know she's attractive, but very attractive.
Keep it in her hand.
And, you know what?
He makes it in her hand.
He makes him human though.
It makes him like, like, like, like, right off the bat.
I also.
Well, that's attractive.
Well, that's a Bill Belichick said that.
You don't want to clap him.
Oh, good boy.
You know what?
It would be, it would be creepy.
By the way, 73, this is for the react.
25.
Did you see the different coaches in the schools, like Tommy Lloyd?
Oh, I didn't, not interested in North Carolina.
Did he say not interested?
Do you say like I'm focused on Arizona?
I'm focused on what we have ahead of us.
You know, I don't think it was any, I'm not interested in Carolina.
Yeah, you're right.
As far as Steve Davis concerned, Kenny Smith.
First Steve Day's concern Kenny Smith.
Hey.
Hey, Hubert Davis wants a broadcaster for us.
So he has.
Everybody also was the, how long was he the assistant coach for a long time?
He has zero experience.
Yeah.
I don't know that he's expressed a desire to stop anybody.
Coach, the team.
Have you seen him run from the desk?
Yes.
When he goes to the giant.
Terrific.
Yeah.
It's good.
Awesome.
I mean, it does keep it in the Carolina family, which is important to them.
I don't have experience stopped anybody though.
Well, how can you get experience?
Well, you don't have to give it experience.
You can go great for a manager out in San Francisco with no big league experience.
Stop it.
Oh, it's one game.
No.
A gorgeous beard though.
It doesn't have a nice beard.
Yeah.
They called them Vitello.
What?
That's how you say the name.
They also said home base.
I mean, what are we?
What are we?
What are we talking about?
It is Vitello.
Is it?
It's not.
I thought it was Vitello.
Yeah.
But the PA announced it.
They introduced him.
They're like Vitello.
You would think he has a right.
She.
Yeah.
You would think she has a right.
You would think.
Well, we also thought that it was it was Travis ETN.
I'm going.
I'm going.
It's a chance.
Not too far.
It's a chance.
It's like.
It's like he's dealing with the callers.
If you call.
And you say.
Welcome to the dark side.
It's it's a TN.
And you said, okay, a TN.
And then you get on the air.
You're like, it's a chain.
Sorry.
What?
It was the last year or two years ago.
And on their podcast, Kelsey Brothers said, oh, it's actually
Kels.
No.
I'm sorry.
No.
Sorry.
You've gone out with this light long enough.
You're now ETN.
Welcome.
Call me Swift now.
Yeah.
It is a Vitello.
Yeah.
There you go.
Travis Swift.
No.
Welcome to the dark side.
Nice football.
And we're talking about pro days.
Yesterday, Karnel Tape was talking about his route.
Running ability.
He already had to say about how he views his ability to get open.
RJ, you don't have to ask because if we, yes, just assume we have.
I just did what I do best to football.
I'm a football player.
I got the best route running the building out there in the drug.
Probably in the country, even in the league.
So I just did what I do best.
We're out there running right to catch the football.
So you two get that confidence.
Love the confidence.
The best route runner in the world.
If you're a draft.
All right.
Or we could get a potential Hall of Fame safety.
Which is, I saw your coach talking to him yesterday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My coach is just out there talking to everybody.
I got to tell you it's different.
I'm, I know you've wrapped yourself in a burst in, in Giants 24-7.
It's different to see John Harball out there with a Giants podium.
I love it.
It takes a minute.
It's sexy.
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That was good.
It's getting better.
It's getting better.
I'm actually shocked that he would have been working on that in the shower.
No.
It's definitely getting better.
I don't, I don't believe you actually.
Voice lessons.
I don't know.
I think you've been working on it.
Voice lessons.
Come on.
You know, gather family around.
Guys, before we leave dinner, let me just give you a couple of harmonies here.
Yeah, it's right.
Little melodies.
Antonio, listen.
How do I, what do you think, Antonio?
Yeah.
Are you trying?
All right.
New project.
Have that, have Antonio singing it.
Now, you know what, RJ, tape that.
Bring that in next week.
I'll do my best.
Investigation found his view.
In a graphic material on his personal phone, just before the vehicle crash.
She did happen.
What in your mind makes you think that you should get into the back of a cop car?
Because we want to be right to the next car.
Florida?
Do I look like a taxi?
No.
Already, time for dinner happened to Florida, presented by a wild form.
Who sent this to you?
No one.
Found something on it.
All on your own, huh?
Yep.
So, person in a place.
Accused of.
And you'll hear why.
You'll hear why.
Eventually brought up on charges for heavy drug deal.
Moving a lot of product.
This is in Florida?
I can't tell you that.
Okay.
A lot of weight.
Let's try.
A lot of weight, as the kids would say.
So, this person, things.
Is that what the kid, is that what the kid drug dealers talk about?
Let's tell this.
Are there a lot of weight?
Are there a lot of children drug dealers?
How do you do fellow drug dealers?
I'd like to purchase some drugs.
So, this goes into more.
How much weight you carry.
And once it goes to court and, you know, things are subpoenaed.
And, you know, you can search the homes.
Everyone's got a ring camera these days, right?
So, this person has a ring camera pointed right at his desk,
where he does his accounting and such.
And the problem with that is he was going over some numbers for what he is arguing
is not a drug dealing business for how he came across piles of cash
that were found in his home.
He says, you know, I have other businesses, cash flow, things like that.
And I don't need to wash money.
It's totally legal money.
Until, let's rewind this ring camera and see it would come across.
And they found the gentleman at his desk singing.
If you missed it.
Yeah, I got to tell you.
When you started with the story, I was like, this is kind of a bland boring story.
Does that really move in the needle for me?
That's amazing.
Do what you love.
It's a nice song.
That's nice stuff.
Do what you love and you never work the day in your life.
That's very buddy.
I like the singing too.
Now, if you've got one more time.
Bloody cash, I walk you.
Bloody cash, I need you.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
I like it.
Can I have one more time?
I'd like to hear an accent there.
Bloody cash, I walk you.
Bloody cash, I need you.
Now, I'm picking up an accent.
I'm picking up a heavy accent.
One more time, please.
Last time.
Okay.
Bloody cash, I walk you.
Bloody cash, I need you.
Now.
It's got a nice accent.
That's Australian.
Australian.
Okay.
Not Florida.
No.
Okay.
Not Florida.
Not Stateside.
Wow.
Yep.
Cool.
He's pretty confident.
Usually, when he goes not Florida and he also names like this in a different culture.
Listen to him.
You could hear.
Yeah.
But I don't know if that means anything.
It could be still be.
It could still be Stateside.
It could be in Australia and it's Florida.
Right.
Right.
That's fair.
Hmm.
Would you agree you hear an accent?
Yeah.
Okay.
Who would do that here?
Can't tell what the accent is, though.
I will go not Florida.
Also.
Raymond.
Pushing weight.
Not in Florida.
Well, you picked up on it.
Well done.
Actually happened.
Not Australia.
Not Stateside.
You know how to kick him.
All right.
So I was right there.
He's just singing, John.
Bloody cash, I walk you.
Bloody cash, I need you.
That's nice.
Oh, he did need it.
He didn't work out for it.
I know.
But you always did it.
It happened to Florida presented by WildFork, your number one choice for meat and seafood.
That's very well done.
That's far.
Why don't you sing them a wild fork?
Does those have a wild fork.
We have, I go to meet through this every time.
Well, I think he is.
It can't be him.
He's in the Poke now.
No, not him.
No, why didn't you sing about meat?
No, the day you do WildFork, you don't just sing meat.
Yeah, I remember we do this every time.
Well, you're the guy.
Yeah, but now you're, I mean you're the guy to be the representative of WildFork.
Why don't you sing?
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Porter houses, I don't know where he is.
Porter houses, that Porter house, Porter house.
He's, you can put all that together, actually.
I think that works.
Where's the fish?
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What I mean, stick.
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Really?
That's off the top of my head.
Have a look at that.
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We need, got meat.
Yeah.
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We've done that several times.
Kangaroo meat.
You want some kangaroo, some elk?
Elk.
How about some bite?
This is the most exotic meat you've ever eaten.
Horse.
I've eaten buffalo.
I don't think that's that exotic.
No?
No.
No.
It's just that's guard variety.
Everyone is eating buffalo.
Not everyone.
Have you eaten buffalo?
Yes.
Like a buffalo burger, bison burger.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tasty.
Very tasty.
Lean.
Deer.
Yeah.
That disease.
I don't think that deer was eaten.
I don't think that deer was eaten.
Yeah.
I hope that deer wasn't eaten.
You don't know what they did to that deer after that.
It takes nose to tail to the home level.
Yeah.
Violated that deer.
You don't know exactly what happened.
You found creative ways, don't you?
I'm just all that deer.
All of it.
Yeah.
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We got criticized.
We got sold it.
The thing that I think we do you and I do plenty of stuff.
Yep.
That's our fault.
Yeah.
I really don't think that was our fault.
I don't think so either.
I mean, we were presented with something that we gave an answer to.
But we're a team.
Agreed.
Right.
But I didn't bring it up.
No.
You didn't bring it up.
No, but it's on us if like if I mean if the thought was, hey, should we be doing this?
That maybe, I mean, one of us could have said something about iOS.
I think it was a big deal.
I actually see here is the concern.
Even in the retelling of Johnson, like, you can't do this.
I'm like, why?
Yeah.
Like I really don't understand why it's that awful.
Which is what worries me.
Makes you dangerous.
Yes.
Because maybe my sensors.
Your governor are not what they need to be.
And I could potentially say something that I stand by.
I'm like, well, I don't think that's bad.
Yet it gets me in big trouble.
Probably my fault.
No, I don't probably my fault.
I don't think that's you.
Like there are certain things that we say in the shows like, come on, you know, you can't say that.
But we're going to push the envelope because it's fun or it's funny or it's cute or entertaining.
This, I wasn't trying to be fun.
I wasn't trying to be fun.
Like I genuinely didn't think it was.
I don't think it's a big deal.
But I also don't think it's an unfair question.
I think it's a very fair question.
Did you hear what we got reprimanded over Raymond?
Just now?
Yes.
No.
I might have an idea.
I had to do with the deer.
I had to.
No.
No, it did not.
I have an idea because I saw an email.
Okay.
But yeah, we did not.
How come I don't get the important emails, but I get to get coffee machines down emails with.
Oh.
If the front door doesn't open, I'm the first to know.
Peppered.
Yeah.
The anthem is flooded.
That I know immediately.
Right.
All of it.
When it's reopened, that I find out.
Don't use this door.
No this door is not working.
Don't use this door.
These stairs.
It probably speaks of Mary's greatness.
Mary is amazing.
We're all included in those emails.
She's more inclusive than John.
Very inclusive.
Because John doesn't include us having stuff.
We might also worked on a new coffee machine for us.
To get rid of this.
That's what we do.
That's not reliable.
That's what we do.
So this is an interesting topic now,
but that manford interview last night was brutal.
Why can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
So you watch it obviously.
Yeah.
So the scurgeon asked the first question.
And it's manford, 100 pants.
And then it's C.C.
100 pants is in the midst of asking him his question.
And manford is still staring at the scurgeon.
Like the scurgeon is actually a no look pass.
Yeah, but it's like, you need to turn.
Yeah, you need to turn.
It was the whole thing was awkward.
What's the one thing about baseball
that you want to get into now?
The potential lock up.
They didn't even broach that.
Well, maybe that was something that they said
they don't want to bring up.
Then you know what?
Then we can't have young on the bro.
I'm sorry.
Come on.
If we, you can't come on, stop yourself.
You can't ask a commissioner about a potential work.
You can't even lightly tread around it.
It's embarrassing.
No, no, I mean, it's, I don't know if embarrassing is the word.
I think in a perfect world.
Yes, you'd like to be asked, you know, be able to ask that question.
I could imagine the reason that they didn't ask it was because they were told not to ask it.
Well, okay, then you know what?
We can't do an interview.
I'm sorry.
We can't do this.
It's not a decision.
If we, if we can't ask you about a potential work stoppage, how are we in good faith
and good conscience?
We look ridiculous.
What?
Didn't you, it wasn't that your big takeaway from that interview?
They didn't ask you about the biggest thing outside right now outside of staring at Matt Viscursion
while the other guy was asking the question.
Yes.
I mean, that was a little awkward for me.
And then finally, he turned.
But yeah, I mean, that would be information that I would want to know, and I'm sure that
was something that they were thinking about probably asking and maybe we're told you
can't.
Well, I have a problem with that.
Well, I mean, it don't pretend like if you were Matt Viscursion, you'd be like, well,
I'm not having the commission around then.
I would.
You would have sat there like a good boy.
No, no, I would not.
No, I would not.
Could you please tell this guy?
RJ, you know the way to ask my questions.
You know how concerned I am with the questions that are being asked.
You think that if I was told, you're not allowed to ask anything about this.
I'd say, okay, great.
Bring this guy.
One thing everybody wants to know about right now in Major League Baseball.
Listen, I think you'd be a professional, but I do what you're told.
Hey, listen, Matt, I'm winning on our day today.
You have two options.
You have one, you make it happen in tip-tall, as best you can without going there or two,
you just say, we don't need to do this spot.
Right.
I would say either we don't need to do the spot or you have to give me something, I have
to be you.
You know what?
Yes.
You write the question.
You want it phrased.
And I will ask it as gingerly as humanly possible to have him on and not ask the biggest
piece of information and the biggest story heading into baseball this year.
I thought the whole interview right blown up right there.
Terrible.
It's a celebration of opening day, right?
Which is what was making the last question.
Okay.
But what exactly would he say?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What exactly would he say?
I don't know.
I mean, maybe it wasn't, hey, don't ask me this question or I'm not coming on or by
the way.
So you know, if you ask me anything, CBA related, I have no answer for you.
So like you can ask it if you want, but there's no going to be no answer because I don't
know what's going on yet.
Okay.
Fine.
So then ask it and have him run in circles around it and then at least you did your due
diligence.
That will.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I thought it was a terrible look.
You don't need to focus the interview on it.
I know it's a celebration.
They want to know what made Rob Benford fall in love with baseball.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
That's the, that's the important stuff.
How did you fall in love?
Right.
The first game was Mickey Mantle hitting a, you know, two home runs one from each side
of the plate.
Well, now you know, now you know, Mickey Mantle switch hitter 5133 home runs was actually
the last time he homework twice was the game that he was at.
There you go.
That's how we fell in love.
There you go.
But yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
You had to ask that question.
You could have asked it as ginger.
I don't know if that's, I would imagine that with all the momentum that baseball has
right now, that that is not something that they want to be talking about on opening
night.
Of course you don't want to, but it's, it's real life.
It's really actually happening.
Right.
But I mean, Major League Baseball has done a deal with Netflix.
Rob Manfred is the commissioner of Major League Baseball.
I get it.
Right.
So if you want me on, we're not talking about it.
And they chose to bring him on.
Okay.
Well, I have a problem with it.
Okay.
But don't, I mean, don't blame the guys that are in the booth doing it.
They have no say on whether or not Rob Manfred comes up.
Matt Viscursion has no say.
It's Netflix that has the sign.
Fine.
Am I blaming Viscursion unfairly fine?
Yes.
Attack me for that.
Fair.
Somebody has to say we have to approach it in some manner, commissioner.
We have to.
You write the question.
We'll ask it as a layup question.
It has to be approached.
Well, I mean, we can do, we can sit here and try to decide who, who's fault it is or
why it wasn't asked.
It wasn't asked.
And I'm sure it's not something baseball wants to talk about.
Well, the last thing they want to have happened is a lockout.
Of course they don't want to.
Like they finally did building up like a momentum after the World Series and the World
Baseball Classic.
Like, I mean, what series the numbers were enormous should be an exciting time for
baseball.
The World Baseball Classic was great.
Everyone is excited for the start of the season.
There's a lot of three P Dodgers met.
You got Paul Skins.
All right.
You have the school ball.
What's going to happen?
Yankees, Judge O'Connor, all of it.
There's a million good things in baseball right now, a million and you can have focused
on that.
Okay.
So let me ask you a question here for a second.
So after the meeting that we just had, it wasn't a hey, John, it's your birthday and
we talked about all the fun stuff that we talked about.
It was a cuddle-married trash that we did.
That it wasn't like, hey, do me a favor.
Cuddle-married trash these and then as you cuddle-married trash it, say all the negative things
about each person.
It was a simple, I mean, I don't cuddle him, marry him, trash him.
And there was sensitivity about that, right?
You think they're going on Netflix?
The first time on Netflix with all the backlash that it's not on yes or wherever else.
And then we're making this big stupider deal for this that they wanted to have that also.
You know what then?
Then it shouldn't be doing interviews.
Well, I mean, he made the decision to do it.
Okay.
As a celebration of baseball.
I'm not wrong.
Listen, I don't think you're wrong.
That's what I would want to know, but that was not the time of place for it, they thought.
Okay.
Then you know what?
He shouldn't be doing it.
But I think you can blame C.C.
And fine.
Then maybe I'm wrong in blaming whoever I'm blaming, but someone struck out here.
Now did you need like, did you need the commissioner to tell you about how we fell in love with
baseball?
Like, was it worth it?
Which is fine.
Right.
Maybe you didn't want to do things that maybe you didn't want to do.
But the payoff for doing it might have been worth it.
Like was there really that big like to take the criticism that they're taking for not
asking the question, was it really worth like, what was the upside of it?
What is the upside of it?
There's not.
Right.
There's not.
Maybe they had to do it.
Maybe it was part of the deal.
Maybe it was enforced by Joe Netflix.
Who's like, you're going to have man for it on.
Is that who runs?
Yes.
Joseph Eugene Netflix.
Yes.
Also known as.
Was that a family business?
Yes.
Just like, it was like, just like Chef IQ exactly like that, exactly like that.
So you, your dad started the company and said, no, when did your dad passed on the company
to you?
Yeah.
Oh, I could've assumed you were the head of the head of marketing.
That's Netflix and chill.
He was good though.
John was, John was great in that meeting.
John is great in meeting.
I also think he was kind of positioning himself with some free stuff.
Yes.
I feel like he wanted to be lumped into, hey, I also could use some product.
He should.
Why?
He won't be talking about it.
Yeah, but he's the boss.
It doesn't matter.
He's got no bearing on how the reads go, how the, the interaction goes.
Yeah, but as the boss.
This is so fun.
He filtered through him.
Why?
I don't know.
There's no banter involved because he's the boss.
And he got a free bagel.
I think he's got enough.
He, he snuck back for the free.
Right.
His, his chance he had to pop up bagels delicious.
Delicious.
Delicious.
I was almost tempted to have one.
Not me, but once I pop, not me, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a ball.
I can't stop.
I'm going to, I'm going to great head face because you're, because you're a grade one
fatty.
Right.
According to the chart, you had Peter, great ones.
Right.
It's not way.
Peter, Peter might be morbid loop obese.
I don't think they call it morbidly now though.
This again.
I think it's just you go grades.
It's one, two, three.
It might be getting like an, an F.
You think he's like, no, but he could be a grade two, you think?
Great to fat.
I think it's, is this the same conversation you did not want taking out fat text?
Right.
He's like, here's the thing.
I thought he, Peter was skinny.
He pretends like he doesn't like when people talk about it and he's like, just do your
show.
You don't have to mention my name.
He loves it.
No, I don't.
He lives for it.
No, I do not.
He wants to be the subject.
I don't want to be the subject.
And he wants attention.
You must have said, Peter's a grade one fatty.
A hundred times already.
Because I thought Peter was in the 175 rate.
No chance.
I learned he's over 200.
Yeah.
We don't even know how much over 200.
What happens if he's 212?
He could be a grade two.
You better get to it.
Doctor.
What do you mean?
I don't think he needs to go to a doctor.
If he's 5, 8, 2, 12, he's like, I'll 100 Kirk.
I thought a bad comparison.
No.
Well, look at all successful Kirk.
Yes.
Very successful.
I mean, Peter's doing the same thing.
WWE.
This.
Like going to the thing.
But I want to see it.
He's got a baby.
He's got a beautiful wife.
He's got a young baby.
I want to see anything happen to him.
I mean, the Natalie's the real hero.
You know, Peter asked me out for dinner recently.
Really?
Hmm.
Maybe you should do him a favor and not go to dinner.
Right.
Do you really need to eat dinner?
No, he has to be for dinner.
That's nice.
Yeah.
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You know what it is?
He can't focus.
He can't focus on the task at hand, and once he gets up and leaves and gets, you know,
taken by the people out in the workforce area, then you lose them and now he's no longer
available.
And you can hear him chatting off to the side.
You can see him now.
Yeah.
Now you can see.
Welcome back.
Yeah.
Come on in.
We missed you terribly.
We don't need you right now.
If you.
What?
I missed you, but I don't need you.
At the moment.
No, no.
At the moment.
I could have gotten through that segment with you doing your thing out.
And then you would have complained about it for the rest of the, for a whole hour.
I think that's fair.
You left me for a whole segment.
Who does that?
I know you're fine.
Who does that?
You'll take a couple calls.
Yeah.
They probably want to talk to you anyway.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's so many things you could do with you.
Great.
I mean, the pew-pew is terrific too.
The pew-pew.
Well, that's what's on this newest t-shirt.
Miles.
Miles, Matt's Jets fan is he's he's doing some work.
Right.
He's doing some work.
He's doing some, some real work.
All right.
Let's get to a couple calls.
We'll break.
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Good stuff all around.
Ross and come up at 930.
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RJ, we've got to finish our over-unders as well.
You guys are locked in.
I don't know if it depends on what you do.
Okay.
You feel like you have your list of over-unders.
I think so.
Yeah.
All right.
And I owe you a breakfast.
I guess you do.
Yeah.
Because Peter's...
And I'd say overweight.
I mean, he's a great one.
Great one.
Great one.
Let's go to Chris and Woodbridge.
Chris, good morning.
Good morning, guys. Happy Thursday. I wanted to come to your defense state. I watched the Yankee game less than a Netflix.
Well, everybody did. It's the only place to consult me. Where else did you watch it? Yeah.
I honestly thought when Manfred came on, they were going to bring up the topic about the work stop pictures. Someone who was going to ask a question.
And I wasn't too thrilled that they didn't even dance around a topic or it wasn't slightly broached.
I thought it was. Let me ask you a question. Chris, thanks for the phone call. I want to ask this to you, RJ and Raymond.
Okay. So we all believe that Matt Viscursion is doing the game tonight.
Yeah. Also somehow traveling cross country doing the meds game. Matt Viscursion is well regarded as being pretty good at his job.
Yes. Okay. Has an idea of how an interview should probably go like.
Any questions, things that, you know, I should ask, shouldn't ask what people want to hear, right?
We believe that or no. We believe that. Yeah. Okay. So if we believe that, do we really think that having the commission run in the in the midst of what could be a work stoppage after all this momentum is being built up that he wouldn't want to ask that question.
I said, forget about who's to blame. There's a disconnect. And that question needed to be allowed to be asked.
No, I don't even know if you call it a disconnect as opposed to like this was clearly something they didn't want to talk about.
Well, then don't put them on the broadcast. I mean, if you're the commissioner, I think we would all been fine with that.
If you're coming, I mean, we like when it was done, we're like, oh, thank God we have the commission on the broadcast. No.
If you were going to put them on, you needed to be able even in a delicate matter to allow the skateboard to ask.
Right. I'm like, how are we doing that? Right. I don't. I mean, interview the bird guy.
No, he's a big type comedian. Okay. So interview him. I don't mind filming with him. I mean, I've kind of seen him.
He does the specials on Netflix, but that's fine. Interview him. Bring him up to the booth. Have some fun, some jokes, interview him, send him out to me.
RJ, you believe responsible for this, RJ Netflix. Yes, baseball. The bird guy.
Basically, baseball had to say you're not allowed to broach this subject. There's no way Netflix wouldn't want to ask the question.
I'm sure Netflix would love to, but you got to think this is also a brand new partnership.
Of which there's not a lot of sightings. What do they have this?
Homer and Derby. All-Star game. Is that right?
Maybe something else. All-Star game is on Netflix. I could be wrong.
Not to mention all the criticism going into this thing that it was on Netflix.
Yeah. Right. Which I thought was a little overblown until I started seeing there.
Their full display of how they were going to run point on this.
There's Netflix. You brought in a content creation company.
All-Star games on Fox. Okay. So I think they have one more.
I think the Homer and Derby is correct.
So you brought in a content creation company to produce this.
And this is how they view producing it with their Netflix sing it up.
That's what it looks like. There's cabs on the infield dirt. And there's a trolley.
That's their idea. And there's a flyover that was slightly later than it should have been.
So I got here. Here I got the answer for you opening night.
Last night. The home run Derby in Philadelphia, July 13th.
And I love this game. The field of dreams.
Okay. Sorry. Between the fillies and the twins is the last of the three Netflix.
I bet you both side truck. We don't need to get into this.
I don't think Netflix is. They're looking for tree tax.
Right. It's a celebration.
Yeah. Okay. You guys can have your tax and I'll have mine.
You got to think. I think the hope from I listen.
I think Rob Manford down to his core would hope that this is not going to happen.
Of course he doesn't. So I mean, let's just say, you know what?
I'm hopeful down to my core. This isn't going to happen.
We're going to have to figure out a happy medium for everyone.
Am I concerned? Absolutely. But at the end of the day,
I think that we're both adults. Both sides and we'll figure it out.
And what's wrong? Well, but we also know that's not the truth.
I think yet. Okay. There's no great. I mean, there's no real great answer.
It's I mean, you're right. There's no. There's no great answer.
Oh, no. I want to announce that the, you know, there's a new CBA in place.
I agree with that. I mean, well, that's not happening.
Make that announcement right there. Bring up Bert.
He can help you with the whole announcement. He can scream it.
There's no CBA in place.
He was screaming in the pregame.
He's excited. Very excited.
And they stick him in a cubby code. The camera's not working.
It was a big ordeal. It was a big ordeal.
It was a bigger deal.
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