I Followed the Money Behind The Protests. It Led to 1 Man – Nate Friedman

0:00You're an award-nominating journalist and you found out, I mean, this is shoot. I was just a grassroots thing, but it's not when the protests started. I went down there and I was followed and looked into them and I found them at like 100 plus protests. Dave taken in over $20 million from this secret billionaire. He funds these protests. And so who are these people? It really comes down to exposing the companies first, like how they're getting the money. Within our lifetime is sponsored by WestPak and WestPak is funded by the Open Society Foundation. And they are funded by... Why is this fucking fun in this? If the goal is to weaken America, this is very, very smart. They've shown division. You just keep on selling division until... That is the playbook. What's Charlie Kirk and inspiration? I fell to my knees and I called my dad. He just said two words. Come home. It's tough when people are gleefully celebrating your friend's murder right in front of you.

1:03He just inspired me to work much harder. Are you worried about your own security? Nate Friedman, you don't often do podcasts to you? Yeah, like I said, I think this is my first podcast. I was certainly one that's been an hour, but that could be an hour, so yeah, excited. This is a big deal. You're an award-winning journalist. I've been nominated for an award. You're an award-nominating journalist. Who does investigations and you found out? I mean, this is huge, really. The paid protesting. That's the big thing that you've uncovered. For those who don't know and aren't familiar with your channel and everything, what is that? Yeah. So I got into exposing paid protesting totally by accident. When the takedown Tesla protests started, I was really curious about it because Elon was loved by the left. He was worshipped by the left. He was the guy and then all of a sudden on a dime, they were protesting against him because he was endorsing Trump. So I went down there and I was followed by

2:06what I didn't know were paid protesters. They were preventing my interviews. They would hold a sign that said, right, wing troll. And I was like, that's this very strange, unpaid behavior. So I went and I looked into them and I found them at like 100 plus protests. And some of some of these protesters that I've exposed, I found on 994ms of companies like the People's Forum where they're actually, they'll be called like a general manager or something like that, but they're out on the street protesting every other day. So you can be called a teacher, called a manager, but the job description is not very accurate. How did you go about finding the first people? Yeah. So I've built a system that's taken a lot of hard work to look into. Look into these things, but it really comes down to exposing the companies first, like how they're getting the money. So if you look at the People's Forum again, right? So they've taken in over $20 million from a man named Neville Roycingum, who's like this secret billionaire who's a season in China, he's like a CCP billionaire, right?

3:09So he, he funds these protests. And if you look at even right now, there hasn't been one of these protests in New York in like close to I think two months now because the DOJ launched a grand during investigation into him. And just by coincidence, there hasn't been massive protests, right? So it's quite interesting. And then you find, so who are these people in general? I mean, that's some Chinese kind of guy. Right. So I've basically dug into Soros and Sangam the most. So Soros and Sangam often overlap on the protest organizations that they fund, but the general layout is you have like a fiscal sponsor for something that may not even be an NGO. So say you have a group, right? And it's like we're too small to be like an official NGO. So we're just a group. Say within our lifetime as an example. So within our lifetime is sponsored by WestPak. And WestPak is funded by the Open Society Foundation and the Open Society Foundation is funded by Soros.

4:12Do you see how it takes a long time to actually see the money come down? So when you see a company like within our lifetime, you think, oh, it's just a grassroots thing, but it's not. They're getting sponsored and then they're being sort of pushed and then they are then getting like real people and getting them to go and just turn up at protests and you go and interview them. Do you find often they don't even know what they're necessarily there for? Yeah, I mean, so there's a difference between like the leaders are often paid, but a lot of these folks that come are not necessarily paid. So you can't have these protests if it weren't for the paid protesters organizing it. And they're the on record many times saying that like this couldn't be done unless there was an organization behind it. So sometimes yes, sometimes they're holding the sign and they're there to just hang out with friends. They have no idea what's going on. You can know this by asking like what's the solution? You know, like they say abolish ice. Well, what's the solution in open border? And then like yeah, an open border will work. I'll like, well, then how would you keep criminals down? They're like, I'll think about that. There's no actually like solution processing sometimes.

5:13Man, you go often, and I've seen you in these kind of left wing activists protests. And they're saying, you know, are you? Because you've then said like, look, I'm on both sides, but you're sort of not. Or are you? I mean, I've got my own personal like, I think for people who watch, like you can, you make up your own mind, honestly. I come to each of these conversations without a bias. I'm going there to learn how these people actually think. And then you can make up your own mind where I stand. But yeah, you, I mean, it does tend to expose the progressives. Yeah, I mean, one thing I've been on record from when I was asking people who you're voting for, like I don't ask questions that I wouldn't answer myself. So I'd say like, who are you voting for? And someone would say like, well, who are you voting for? I say Trump. Okay. So I've said that. Yeah. Okay. What are you finding in your videos about a lot of people concerned about the violence on the left and people being willing to be more willing to be violent on the left?

6:14Have you, have you found that? Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. Some of the chance are are getting to be a little bit more violence. Like in the UK, there was a chance. And it's been here too. It's growing in popularity. But it's been like death death to the IDF. And you know, it's funny because it's a little bit more specific than from the river to the sea, which a lot of them can't name which river and sea. But the death death to the IDF, I asked one person about this if this includes, you know, people who have served previously. Because not a lot of people know, but like in Israel, like everybody serves in the IDF. So by saying death death to the IDF, you're basically calling for a genocide. So I would say yeah, it's shifted more violent. That's just an example of one of more violent. I suppose they push back and say, I think you can choose to do like community service or something. It's fairly common. I don't know. I'm like an expert, but I know that most people serve in the IDF. So you mentioned Soros. Yeah. For those who don't know, like don't even, they just heard the name maybe Soros. Who is this guy? Yeah.

7:15Well, he's a billionaire. And he got famous by, or he made his money by like shorting the British pound. But in the context for my investigations, Soros is a funder for most of the left-wing activism that you see and across the country. So if you'll notice a lot of the same faces and signs from anti-ice to any anti-West protest is going to be similar signs, similar people. And it's not that these people are just as passionate about each issue. It's that the organization that is printing the signs when organizing the protests, they're organizing all kinds of different ones. I had one kind of, it was kind of a joke. They scheduled like an anti-ice and free Palestine protest, like at the same time. So they advertised it as a free Palestine protest. And then on Instagram, they also said at 6 p.m. at Bryan Park, there's also an anti-ice protest. So I went up to one of the guys and I said, where's the anti-ice protest and where's the anti-protest? And he goes, I know, it gets confusing.

8:17Sometimes it gets your tuss. Oh man. It's like the multi-calls thing, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. It's all just, and that's often met by Soros. Now Soros is Jewish, right? Yeah. So that's often on the right. There'll be a kind of like, ah, the Jews are taking over the world with Soros and that kind of. Yeah. What do you say to them? There are some Jews that hate Jews. And there are some Jews that hate the West. Unfortunately, yes, there is a lot of money that comes from a lot of the people I've been investigated, the paid protesters at the top. Many of them are Jewish. Many of them are calling for the genocide of Jewish people. And they are Jewish. So it's interesting. Yeah. I hate those people. Yeah. It gives us so much shit as well. Because people then think that these guys, I haven't met any. Every guy I know, every Jewish guy I know in like North London, especially since October 7th, but also before that was like, was not like left-wing kind of activist.

9:17Although I did hear that Jews in every state would have voted for Harris here. Most, yeah, anything, it was like 73%. You know, I have to cut me on it. But it was a high number, yeah. But it was still lower than I think any other presidential election in history. I believe that because most of the time they vote Democrat Jews. And this time it was a bit different. They're moving gradually away from it, maybe. Yeah, because it's the left-wing party is leaving Jews rather than Jews leaving the left-wing party. That's how people always leave cults. Because people think people just wake up and go, shit, you know, Lord Zeno is not real in Scientology or whatever. It's actually that they were treated so badly by the cult that they had no choice but to eventually leave. Yeah. Man. What about in the UK? You've done quite a few things in the UK. What are your first impressions? Were you shocked? Yeah, sure was. I went to the UK because I was just swiping on Instagram Reels and looking at YouTube videos of just like street footage of the UK.

10:22And I thought to myself, like, maybe this is cherry-picked. Like there's not this, what they're calling an Islamic invasion in the UK. I wanted to see it for myself. So I really did book a plane ticket like that day that I saw all the videos. I mean, I need to go and see this. So I arrived in the UK and it was much, much worse than I had thought. So I first went to Whitechapel. And my first interview in the UK was with a guy who refused to say which country he was from. I found that very interesting because I've interviewed hundreds of illegal immigrants and they've all told me which country they come from. Like it's never been something you would hide. Like what? You know, it was very, very strange. And they call for Sharia, like my latest investigation in Birmingham was I think one of my best investigations I've done. I spoke to a man outside of Greenlane mosque who told me that we do want Sharia law and the way that we're trying to implement it is by putting Muslim people

11:23into politics and they are going to implement Sharia law. This is our plan. And I think a lot of folks have known this, but it's different when the quiet park gets set out. This is the thing that, yeah, many of us suspect. And this is somebody actually saying it. I guess what everyone is then, if they're watching this now and they're thinking about it, they're going, okay, but what percentage is it? Because every ideology has its not cases. And maybe you just stumbled across the most kind of fervent people in Islam in the UK. Yeah, so this is why I do hundreds of street interviews. I have not spoken to a Muslim who has not wanted Sharia law. What? Yeah, I have, you can see them all on my channel. I've heard it in Italy, I've heard it in Spain, I've heard it in the UK. So one thing you can ask is would you support a ban on Sharia law? And see what they say. See if they would say yes, I don't think they would say yes. You haven't found them saying yes.

12:24No, I suppose it's a slightly different question, isn't it? But it does mean the same thing. Well, if they don't want to say that they support it, then would you support a ban? But there's also an element of, because I interviewed many Muslims in Nazareth in Israel just to get their kind of reactions and stuff. And there's also something very different, you know, what they're willing to say on camera. And some of these people might be scared of elders or others who are watching. And so to say yes, I would support a ban on Sharia law, that could lead to them being in trouble with the elders. Yeah, it's a different sort of setup over there. Because in Europe, you're seeing more of an ideology of conquest. It's like, you know, you're putting Muslims into office. You're like, I said, from the conversation I literally had, he's telling me these things. This is a, this is a mosque, by the way, that the mom who still works there was did a lecture on how to stone your wife to death that she cheats on you.

13:24And he still works there. And I said, do you want to see the clip? He's like, no, I don't need to. That's fine. Like that's that's what we believe. So okay, shit. What are some of the the central tenants of Sharia law? Yeah, so the term Sharia law, it's actually, it's like saying law law because Sharia is law is like Islamic law. So Sharia law is just according to, I see, I just did it. Sharia is according to the Islamic text. So what is in the Hadith, what is in the Quran? It's saying that is law. So if you read through the Quran, like, you know, for example, if you steal something, you know, you get your hand chopped off, that says it in the Quran, right? So that would become law. And I asked him about this, the same guy said, well, that'd be good. He said, well, there would be less crime. So they're supportive of it. Yeah. Shit, man. When you, when you got to the UK, did you get the impression that there are actually, because the last census, I think it was 2021, and the idea is it's about 8% or something,

14:24Muslims in the UK. Did you feel like it might be more? Yeah, I definitely thought it would be more. It's also important to note that 2021 was like just before the peak of immigration going to the wire. So it's impossible. I mean, that's five years ago. So that's one thing that, of course, it's inaccurate because it was five years ago. But the other thing is that I mostly saw this in Birmingham, where I think the, the number that they use is like 33% Muslim in Birmingham. I walked around Birmingham for three hours, and I did not see a person who looked like me once. The once, there was like one person, but that was three hours. So I'm not seeing the 30% number exactly. It seemed more like 90 where I was, but yeah. They might not have been Muslim. I mean, because that's the thing as well, it's not just Muslims coming to the internet. It's all different kinds of people who are not, I suppose, that say white Christian. So whatever. Yeah, I spoke to a man in a grocery store in small heath, and I said, where can I go to interview,

15:27you know, someone who was born in Britain, and I can't do this in this grocery store, he's like, well, not in this grocery store. This is the thing that like a lot of, for lack of a better word, elites in the UK don't seem to understand because I lived, I wasn't earning very much money. I lived in a street in Bristol, which is the West country, which was a very kind of white place or whatever. And that street, you could stay there for days and days and days, you would not meet a, just like white English guy. You just would not see that. You wouldn't see a Jew, you wouldn't see a Christian, you would just not see anything like that. And most people didn't really speak English. Sun did, of course. And you say that to them and they literally don't believe you. Like I've spoken to these guys, they just don't, and it's so frustrating because the evidence, I mean, on your channel, there's just video after video, you see this and they don't want to admit it. Do you know what that is about that kind of a leotus mindset? Can you, can you clarify like a leotus mindset from who exactly if you? These would be in the UK, journalists, people who are part of that mainstream TV.

16:28Yeah. Yeah. So I can tell you from a conversation I had in White Chappell. So I spoke to two people who are white from, from the UK about what they think of the rise of Islam in the UK. And the man replies, suck it up. I found that very interesting because would you say that about something good? Like, hey, I just, I just earned a million dollars, suck it up. So that was, yeah. And then they begin to say like, look, we've we're colonizers and this is sort of like payback, right? Again, payback. Like these are not things you would use to describe something good. Again, in Spain, for example, I spoke to a woman who said, well, all of our shirts and all our clothing is made are made in Bangladesh. So it's only fair if they come here. So the general mindset is I'm willing to destroy my country so that I'm not called a racist. That's mental. Yeah.

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19:35booths. You see the double-decker buses. But then you hear the call to prayer and you can't really believe it. There's a there's a moment in white chapel where they where they blast the call to prayer. And it was the first time I was like at a loss of words in my video. So my video starts with the call to prayer and I'm about to speak into the mic and I just have no words. So yeah, I just some of the thing when I was recording in Israel as well, just hearing that call to prayer, which is remarkable for Israel's critics who suggest it's sort of a Jewish supremacy state and you're like sitting actually there and you're hearing the Muslim call to prayer out in public and Muslims living there and going to pray and all that. Yeah, it's kind of a stranger partied. Very stranger partied. Man, magical realism is a really interesting one to think about. And that's I mean, rushty as well. Salman Rushdie, that was magical realism and he actually did portray those kinds of things. You would suddenly see like yeah, red phone, well, I don't know if that's specific to rushty about like a red phone box, which suddenly some sort of Islam stuff in there and some

20:37Indian stuff and stuff. Yeah, it's like blending something extraordinary with something ordinary. Yeah, it gives you an uncanny, the uncaleed and valid feeling, doesn't it? Something's not quite right in this country. Yeah, it's like when you see a subway and there's Arabic signage and it says that all the meat is halal. It's you know that like subway is ordinary, but this is extraordinary. To get rid of halal, would you accept banning kosher? Yeah, you have to write. I mean, if you'd want to get rid of halal, you'd have to. Yeah, like would you want to do that? I don't have a personal like my personal opinion. I really If did you just imagine family members going, what do you mean you get rid of kosher? No, I think like if a politician, I believe the rest was at a restore in any UK, we're talking about this. Right? Yeah, so Rupert Lo has spoke about this. So he would be the expert on how you would get that done. So I would just encourage people to look into what he said about it.

21:37Yeah, I would do it and a lot of Jewish family and friends have been a bit like paved with me. But then I just don't think in this day and age you need to be killing animals in that way. Well, if the other option were to become a country governed by Sharia, if that's the other option then yeah. That's the thing I don't think many people realize that we don't really have much choice at this point. What would you do in Britain to turn things back? Yeah, I've never really shared like personal opinions on that. But we have what I'll say is from conversations that I've had Muslims have told me that they wouldn't come here if there weren't places to pray. So if you go and you pull up a map and I encourage everyone who's watching to really do this, put Birmingham into Google Maps, make a new tab and put in Kabul, Afghanistan,

22:42and see the comparison of the number of mosques. You'll see like there's more in Birmingham. There's 200 mosques in Birmingham. There's 200. There were only a couple, there was like two in the 1960s and now there's 200. So from this conversation I had with a man in a prayer room and a train station. This is the main Birmingham train station. I had no idea there were prayer rooms in the train stations and they call it a multi-faith prayer room. Yes, interesting. So I walk in and he says we need these places. So if you wanted to prevent from growing then you would obviously have to prevent the growth of massive mosques. I wonder if that would actually do it, because I just think there's a whole tackier thing. You go in, you don't have to really act Muslim and most of them they can pray at home. They've got mats at home, they can pray at home. I just think they say that because the mosques are so important to them but I think they still come. I think you're right. If you have fewer mosques

23:43that's what that's a start maybe and then well benefits and all of those kinds of things that that mean that that that Britain that make Britain such an attractive proposition to other people. Shit man, do you think that will happen? Do you think Britain will start clamping down on mosques? I don't know. Yeah, I don't think it will. Why do you think wealthy elites would fund this Islamic takeover? Why are they funding it? Why is Saurus funding this? It's very easy to stay in power if you have a block of votes that are loyal to you. Islam becomes say 20% of the UK and I've spoken to a lot of Muslims about who they'll vote for and in perpetuity it would be the left wing. I think it's clear that it's about votes, it's about power.

24:45Isn't it easier to stay in power if you have millions of votes? You can count on no matter what. There's been an issue though for those guys because that was labor and then it's never going to be left enough so then the Greens had to pop up which is remarkable because they never talk about green energy or anything like that. It's all about Israel. So the Greens have popped up and then they stole a lot of the Muslim MPs and politicians and so on from from labor but then even the Greens can only go so far and now we have independent Muslim MPs. So it's a weird thing where the left seem to be propping up something that is just going to destroy them as I believe that's happened historically as well. The left always gets killed by it. What about I mean you said Europe is worse than America but we're sitting here in New York and Mamdani is in charge. What are your thoughts on him? I would say that socialism historically has never worked and when I speak to

25:48people who have voted for socialism like voted for Mamdani they're willing to just give it another go. They don't really care that it's never worked like it doesn't matter. Mamdani won because he was very charismatic. One thing that one of the parallels that I found interviewing people for the 2024 presidential election and the mayor or election in 2026 was the candidate that had more enthusiasm won. So the not candidate doesn't win. So whenever you'd interview someone in 2024 you're voting for Trump or Kamala or Harris. People said not Trump and he won the popular vote. He won every swing state because the not people don't actually turn up and vote. There's not enough of that. Whereas if you speak to someone who's voting for Mamdani they love Mamdani. They love the way he talks, what he wants to do. I would say that objectively he had a lot of promises

26:49so far. He's coming up short on them. Free buses became fast buses. I know he said he would arrest Natsuniyahu when he came to Newark and now he just said that he can't. So there's just been several promises that haven't gone through. I see. Shit man. He scares me a little bit because I don't know. Is it the socialism in him or is it the Islamism in him? Is there that, do you think? Is he hiding it? I would say Islam is using socialism. So Islam is going ushered in through socialism. And what is so deep down might he want what a lot of Islamists want? Yes, I think it's likely. And he gets people with these fashionable socialist views which is just insane because it's so different from what Islam reaches. What person who moves to New York, who's out of college,

27:49doesn't want free rent, who doesn't want free rent. But when you learn more about what free rent actually means, you know, it doesn't work. But we're going to give it another try. Is he pushing for free rent? Is that one of the policies he's putting up? So he did a rent freeze for a million stabilized rent stabilized departments. So the reason this doesn't work is because if you say you're a landlord of one of these buildings and you cannot raise the rent and your maintenance and all your other costs go up, you will just default. You will just say, I can't operate this. But people who are these young people who have come, and not just young people too, this is just people who genuinely want to give socialism a try. They don't care about those consequences. They just think it's going to be different this time. And it's not. What do you think of, I mean, because Ben Shapiro made some controversial remarks. I think it was on trigonometry. He said that he said that if people can't afford it, they have to move. And that's what pioneers do. You

28:50move to another city and you set things up there. A lot of people were offended because the suggestion was, you know, you can't afford to live in your own city. And that's kind of okay. Although, I don't think he was really saying that. I think it was a pretty intense statement. But I would say for New York City specifically, because I live in New York. And I'll tell you a conversation I had with a woman who was voting Cuomo, who historically has always voted left. But there was the left and then there was the very left for their mayor election. And she said to me, like, why is this there in this entitlement to live in the greatest city in the world? Like, why do people feel like they can live here and not have to work hard? And not, like, this is the city of dreams. Like, this is the city where you come here, you work hard, you pull yourself up. It's not the city to come here. Major in something where you can't get a job then complain that you can't get a job and then want your rent free, want the bus is free,

29:52want everything to be free. It's just not that. There are cities where you can live where the cost of living is cheaper. But New York is more expensive because it's New York. So that's what I can speak for. Yeah. Which I get, I mean, I've moved, I've moved a bunch of times because I couldn't afford to live in certain places. And I found more affordable places to live in. Not everyone is able to do that, depending on their circumstances, I guess. I guess the other side that is like, you didn't come to New York, you were born there. And people have a strong feeling that if you're born in a place, you should be able to, especially with those people coming over who are not born there. And there's a feeling like, hey, you should be able to make it work if you're born there. But I don't know, I don't know how you manage that exactly. What about, I mean, how, how is it that America had this 9-11, 20 years ago? And I remember Hitchens saying at the time, Christopher Hitchens, that was when he moved from the left because he just found it so shocking that within days of 9-11, people were just shouting about Islam being a religion of peace.

30:57And pushing back against anybody who said it was this, that was the ideology that calls there. And here we are 20 years later with a mayor of New York who is a proud Muslim, whose wife is known to have been making a lot of kind of anti-whatever comments. Yeah. I think that people forget a lot quicker than like folks would imagine. You know, like you said, it hasn't been for as 225 years. And the people that Momdani, the people who voted for Momdani in droves, were born after 9-11. Like, they don't, not only did they not remember it, they weren't even born so. I think that's important to have that context. That 25 years is enough time to raise an entire new voting block. Do you think you were saying that it's the not people always lose? It's the ones with the kind of enthusiasm that when we, is that part of kind of internet culture?

31:59And are we moving towards the kind of... Yeah, no, definitely. Because I think the likeable candidate now can grow so quickly. So you don't have to go on CNN and do your interview and wait till it's out. You can just take your phone out and film. To go against my own point, like Spencer Pratt was a candidate who people had a lot of enthusiasm for, but not enough people had enthusiasm for him. But, or that, also that election was quite interesting as far as paying homeless people to vote. So we'll see what comes through from that LA election. But yeah, I think in general, the people who have the most enthusiasm can now go on social media. And you can see Mom Donnie's engagement on Instagram. He's amazing at Instagram. He's very, very, very talented at social media. So he can garner his support there. He doesn't need to go through other channels. What does he do so well? Why is he amazing? Well, so during his campaign, like he did this thing

33:02that I guess it's like you could call it an old technique, but I've never seen it use so effectively where he's he would tell a story, tell something he believes in and he was changing the environment. He's in every two seconds. His people are attention span on Instagram is a little bit less, right? So he would just be in a grocery store, say what he believes and then it would swipe and he's next to the Brooklyn Bridge. And he was very snappy in his points. He was making things very, very simple to understand. He's very charismatic. He's just has the, you know, that X factor, that charisma that makes somebody likeable. Do you feel pessimistic about the future of the states and Europe? I think it's going to be very difficult to recover what has been lost, but I don't think we have to lose everything. My concern is like right now you got Trump in charge, but come the next election. When's that? When is the next presidential election in two years? In two years. I mean, it's rare that one side always wins constantly, right? So the Democrats will

34:08win at some point. They're going to have to have someone because of the way that we are going in the world right now. They're going to have someone who's actually quite lefty and quite, you know, enthusiastic and crazy. And it's once they're in and they've got several years as president to open up the floodgates and change demographics in a way that can never be turned back. I think that's when it's just gone. So that might happen next election. It could happen in the election after or the one after that, but it's going to happen at some point, whether it's in a few years or in 10 years. And I don't know where America goes from there. Yeah, that's, that's why I've asked the question, you know, what can be done now? For example, the border, right? So the border was open for basically four years. You could see that numbers wise, like, we can't go through that again. So how do we prevent it? And I spoke to members of Congress about it. It's like, no, we sign, we sign bills into law that will say, you know, for a lengthy amount of time, the border

35:09cannot just be opened like that again. So yes, I've also looked for long-term solutions like that. Yeah. Do you find that your, your show helps to educate people and maybe, does it help at all? I wonder this about my own as well. Are we able to move the dial even 0.1%? I hope so. I mean, I'm, I'm there to have real conversations with, with real people. Not, not, not have a poll or anything like that because there was a, if you remember, in 2016, there was like a New York Times like poll that comes out and it says that Hillary has a 90, I think, seven percent chance to win or something like that. And then obviously that didn't happen. So I've always been kind of inspired by that thing like, let's just go see what's really happening, what do people actually believe? And then people can make their own, come to their own conclusions. Yeah, that's really interesting because the polls don't seem to actually tell us very much. They call it in the UK the shiitori votes. There's no the Tories as in the conservatives. The polls always seem to suggest they're going to lose and they almost always have historically won.

36:13And I think those people don't want to say even to polls anonymous polls. They don't want to say that they're voting to the right. Yeah. And also like, I feel posters are almost incentivized to make it closer like during the presidential election. Like you want it to feel like this like dead heat, right? Well, like what if it's not? Like when I was interviewing people and I mean, it makes sense now that Trump won the popular vote. But most people I spoke to said they would vote for Trump. So it kind of makes sense now. But like, I mean, at the time, I was like, am I getting something? What's happening here? A big part of that was also when you look at the enthusiasm candidate, they're more likely to want to talk in general. So if I say who are you voting for and the people who say, I don't want to talk about it, probably against Trump. Whereas the people who are for Trump would want to talk about it. So there is that lurking variable as well. Was that the case here at the time that you think people did want to talk about being pro Trump? Oh yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, people were open about being pro Trump in 2024. That was

37:14that was the attitude shift was drastic. Wow. Yeah, like I saw many more mega hats and people were people wanted to go on camera and say they were for Trump. It was the opposite in from 2016. In 2024, it was a lot of people who didn't want to say they were for Kamala. I see. Because they weren't really for her. They were against Trump. Who wants to talk about someone they're not really supportive of. And then the person themselves doesn't necessarily want to talk much. So Kamala, Kamala didn't, you know, she had that opportunity to go on road. Yeah, she complained. It was interesting. She complained that she didn't have enough time to run. But then she waited like over a month to do her first interview. It's ridiculous. She should have done, uh, Rogan, because Rogan probably would have given her a relatively fair time, I think. You've, um, written about the Islamic takeover of New Jersey. The Islamic socialist takeover of America. You've made videos about, um, it still just one or two percent here, isn't it? In America, I think the official number is like, um, three, four percent, something like that. Is it going up by the second? No, I'm not. I can't remember the latest one, but yeah.

38:19Did you find that it was pretty, you know, quite a lot in New Jersey and New York? Yes. Yeah. Because it's about, it's about enclosing. It's about taking positions of power. So if you look at like Patterson, New Jersey, right? So you have an mom who is praising as Melhanie, right? Um, former leader of Hamas. And he is seen multiple times shaking hands and speaking with the mayor of Patterson. I see. That's concerning. Yeah. So they're getting into this political positions right now. Yeah. Why would you go in the world if you were like, look, I just don't want to be involved in any of this sharia stuff. Because I always thought I'd go to America. Florida. Would they just fall in their own like, unclave? I'll see what happens. I think that Florida will sort of probably be the, the last standard that comes to it. Yeah. Have you ever gotten into like violent confrontations during your, your work? No. Not really. You've got a security person with you, right? And so that puts people off, I guess.

39:24Yeah. Yeah. Are you worried about your own security? Um, it's a tough question. It's not, it's like, it's like, it's like not fun to think about. I'm going to do what I, I'm going to keep doing what I do. And that's, that's how I just deal with it. Did Jews have to accept that their place in the world has changed? Like, I used to think of America as like the 1990s, sign-failed friends. It was just this cultural thing. Jews seem to be the hearts of the culture here. And that's, I think that is that gone? Has that gone? I don't know. To be honest, I don't, I don't think about it that much. Um, I just, I think there's a, a bit of a mentality, um, to say like, everything is anti-Semitic or whatever. I just, let's focus on our country. America. Yeah. Let's, let's bring back the America that we, we know and love. Like, it's not matters. I get wound up by that. There's a, there can be among some people who are

40:27Jews and the same in any other, whatever, but it can be a bit whiny. Just like moaning. Like, I don't know. People said this to us. They did that. And I just think, you know what? It should be a bit stronger. Get on with it. Just like show the reality. I went to, when I went to Patterson, New Jersey, I went to a barbershop that, you know, said Jews did 9-11 on the, on the window. And I walked in and he said, are you a Jew? Are you a Zionist and slam the door on me? And I, okay, I documented it. Done. Like, let's go to the next video. Next video. Your, your critics would say that you would like, selectively edit to, to find. And I guess that part of being, having a YouTube channel, you sort of got to do that because you can't put with the boring people in, right? Where some see heroes and other see egos. Bloomberg sees the era of billionaire athletes. While others follow the noise, we follow the money. Learn more at Bloomberg.com. I mean, I show most of the interviews. I do. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, some of them are just like the person says, nothing or doesn't speak English. And even in those cases, I will show the ones that

41:31don't speak English a lot of the time just to say, because when you see the final YouTube video, you see, let's say, five interviews. But you don't see the two hours that I walk around, are people saying I don't speak English or I don't want to talk or anything like that. Yeah, I found it really difficult whenever I've done those videos. I haven't done many of them. Yeah. And it's like, I hate going up to people and like, hey, we've got a camera and everything. Am I, are they going to think I'm in the desert? Yeah. And like the twisting thing, I mean, it's, I almost never get that criticism. But to the people that would have that criticism and say, like, when, when this man outside of mosque and Birmingham says to me that we're trying to implement Sharia law, am I, I twisting that? No, not at all. No, but they would say like, there might have been loads of Muslims there who would say, no, no, I hate the idea of Sharia. Sure, but maybe they maybe not wanted to talk to me on camera. You know, yeah, you've not found those people. Yeah. Shit, man. The money, the following the money, right? Has it, does it lead to Qatar? Does it lead to Israel? I've mostly focused on China, like China's what keeps coming up

42:38for the protests. Wow. There's also funding from like Saudi Arabia, Qatar for the mosques. But for paid protesting, like, it's mostly come from China. Interesting. And so what, when I say China, I'm talking about like Neville Roy saying, I'm who lives in China and I don't know how money moves around and nobody knows. Do you have an idea about the the goal of China? Well, if the goal is to weaken America, this is very, very smart. Like, you just, you, you pull the left to be so extreme anti-America because right now we, we, we have two parties and we've had two parties, but now we used to have two parties that both loved America. Now we have a party that loves America and a party that doesn't. So congrats you did it. Like, you did push a party that used to love America to, no, less so. They've owned division. Yeah. That's really scary because yeah, America was the place where even like the left seemed to, you know, USA, there was this kind

43:39of nationalism. There was a feeling that they knew what they were and now it's starting to just feel a bit fractured like Europe. Yeah, the one in some of those classified documents, they talk about how like BLM was, was financed a lot by China. So yeah, if you were China and you wanted to so division like this is how you do it, right? You tell black people that they were pressed in America. Yeah, such as I mean, you, you anti-ice, anti-whatever, you just, you just keep on sewing division until the solution becomes mom Donnie, someone like that. You keep in, and then that was the playbook until the solution becomes socialism and then socialism, look what it did to Venezuela, right? Like we know socialism is going to make the country weaker. So it's really scary. What's Charlie Kirk and inspiration? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, what are your thoughts on him? He still is, he still is inspiration. Yeah, how did it, I mean, did you have like an emotional

44:41connection watching him? I mean, when he died, it was just terrific. Yeah, I was the worst thing in my life. Really? Yeah, yeah. I felt to my knees and I called my dad and I couldn't, I couldn't stop like, I was like, I have prevent relating, I couldn't, yeah, yeah. And I remember my father, he said, like, he's the strongest man I know, like my father. And he just said two words, he said, come home. Yeah, like, because I live in New York, he lives in Boston. And he's just like, just come home. Like, because he saw like, I can't, I can't talk this through like I can't. So I went home and I didn't want to just like sit around and feel sad. So I did two days, I did two days, I just, I have spent every single second thinking

45:43about him. And then I went out and I asked college students in Boston what they think of Charlie being assassinated. And I told my audience, like, the reason why this was in Boston was because I I had to go home. And when students at Emerson told me that they held parties, like, for when Charlie was killed, like to celebrate his murder, there are times where it's difficult to like have a straight face in these interviews. Like, there's different what you have to like tell yourself, okay, don't. But it's tough when people are gleefully celebrating your friend's murder right in front of you. So, and then I went to Harvard and heard similar things. Yeah. So anyway, I think about him every day.

46:43I thought about him every single day. And his, his knowledge was just so vast. And I, I always feel like I'm, I'm not doing enough for my own knowledge because they, I only got to meet Charlie once. I while I did his show. And he was so supportive. And you know, he did this for so many people. Like, the energy that he had to support my work. I knew that he had for other people. It's like, I know that people say like, oh, he was supportive. He was like, he supported so many people. He was that person for so many people, hundreds of people, thousands of people, millions of people. If you talk about the people who watched him, but I'm talking about like people who he spoke with, like, hundreds of people could testify that he changed their lives, like after speaking to them. And then when I spoke to him, like in person, he just, he just wanted to learn more from me. Like, isn't that so crazy? Like, I want to learn from him because he's Charlie Kirk, right? And he wanted to know what I had been seeing on the street. He wanted to know how he could be doing a better job, how he could connect

47:46with voters. He was always on nonstop. I mean, it was, it was during this like two-day retreat. And like, he, he was doing his show in the middle of this. Like, who was going to do their show in the middle of retreat? Because he just, he didn't turn off. He lived and breathed it. These people, there's some people like him. It's this view and there were few in the world. It's like really rare. Yeah, that talent to just remembering absolutely everything about everything he could debate beautifully. Man, that, that sent Shockwave through the world. Did it change how you approached your videos? And I guess I'm talking safety perspective, but I wasn't talking philosophically. Did it, was did anything change from then on? He just inspired me to work much harder. Yeah. Like I just started working a lot harder after, after, after, after September 10th. You say it was harder to talk to people who were gleefully celebrating his death. Yeah. That show of told in your work. No. You just kept it down. Yeah. It's my job. I'm not going to get

48:51the truth if I'm saying he was my friend. Don't talk to him like, no, I'm going to get the truth. Yeah. And then I can go home and I can think about it. But I'm not going to do it in front of that, in front of the person that you're doing now. Yeah. It speaks to the violence that we're seeing on the left a lot. We just had someone politician in the UK and Whitakom was just brutally murdered by a lefty guy. And you just don't seem to see that. I'm sure maybe people who have it those examples that I'm not thinking of, but on the right at the moment, I'm just not seeing that. Certainly not seeing that celebration of the death of somebody on the other political side to us. Yeah. Yeah. Scary. What are you working on at the moment? Yeah. So I'm working on a pretty extensive documentary on Neville Roycing. I'm actually because I've never put together like everything I have on him and everything I have on the protest. So that's being worked on. I'm also going to be traveling quite a bit around the country. Not just for the protests, but showing the rise of Islam across many different states.

49:56Yeah. So have you been surprised and happy about how fast your channel has grown? I really, I really try not to think about numbers and I think about the individual. So whenever I'm doing an investigation, I'm doing it for one person. And I don't know who the person is. It's someone who watches my channel and I just think about them every day. I think about that person every single day. Because if you, if I show you a video on my phone, it would be no different than showing 100 people in the video or a thousand. It's just, it has to be impactful and interesting. Are you hoping to change minds? I'm hoping to save the West. To live in a country where you can take your kids to school and not worry about their safety, not to be able to go out at night and not worry about it, to not hear the call to prayer in

50:58in the morning and to have freedom. That ice stuff, I wondered if they maybe didn't help themselves at times, the Trump government. Because some of the Twitter stuff, it was a bit like taking the piss, you know. What did you think of that? Maybe. Some of it was entertaining, some of it. The jokes and stuff. It's hard, isn't it? It's people's life, it's like real people's lives, but at the same time you can't be having people in the country who are not there legally. It's extremely complex situation actually. As far as how you deal with it. But well, people go and follow Nate Friedman. I'm going to have his things down below or all the things, make sure to click on it, hit this like button and go and watch the next thing on this channel. If you enjoyed that, hit follow on Spotify or Apple and on Spotify tap the bell. If you can leave a quick rating, it helps a lot. Thanks.