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We Laughed at Them. Then They Took Over - Gavin McInnes (Vice Media & Proud Boys)

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Gavin McInnes, VICE co-founder and Proud Boys founder, joins Andrew Gold on Heretics for an explosive interview about who took over our culture—and how we let them. We laughed at them. Then they took over. Gavin’s theory begins with the outsiders who became powerful—and ends with a society where he believes the wrong people are making the rules. --- Follow Gavin McInnes' work on: https://censored.tv --- He gives his account of the bitter VICE split, the corporate money behind its transformation, and how rebellion became establishment. We discuss free speech, cancel culture, masculinity, class, immigration and the Proud Boys. I question him about racism, the people he defends, and where he draws the line. Along the way: Tommy Robinson impressions, an outrageous airport confession, Nick Fuentes, the disappearance of local culture, and the story behind Gavin’s ankle tag. This may be the most offensive interview I’ve ever done. You’ve been warned. CHAPTERS 00:00 You’ve Been Warned 04:04 My Problem With VICE 08:05 How VICE Pushed Out Its Own Co-Founder 13:27 The VICE Split Gets Personal 17:34 The People Who Ruin Everything 23:10 We Laughed at Them. Then They Took Over 26:51 What Happens When Resentment Gets Power? 31:10 Gavin’s Unfiltered Take on Tommy Robinson 34:49 The Airport Confession That Left Me Stunned 38:17 His Explosive Theory About Britain’s Elite 41:21 “They Made Us Racist” 45:04 I Asked Him Where He Draws the Line 51:03 Nick Fuentes: The Friendship He Defends 55:18 Would He Make Me Leave Britain? 58:27 Why Everywhere Is Starting to Look the Same 1:03:15 The Price of Reading the Wrong Book 1:07:17 The Killer He Knew 1:11:40 The Real Reason He Can’t Drink Is Gavin onto something—or has he gone too far? Tell me the moment you agreed with him, or the moment he lost you. Subscribe to Heretics with Andrew Gold for more interviews that challenge what you think. #GavinMcInnes #AndrewGold #Heretics #VICE #FreeSpeech Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You're the baddest person I've ever interviewed. I think you're actually the number one. They made us racist by making racism cool. And when I say racist, I mean... What happened in the past 20 years is we let the nerds take over. It was cool to be a loser for a very long time. Trump came along and said, yeah, we're not doing this anymore. I'm stuck with the ball, you just said. So yeah, the proud voice saying it. When I formed the club, if you're getting all the doors shut on you in the rain, you're welcome in here. I was pretty mainstream and then things started getting momentum. One, some of those people in the proud boys didn't, some of them get quite violent, one, some of them racist. Who, when, where? You're a journalist. You tell me, so the blueprint, the constitution of proud boys is not racist. Are you finding there are figures out there who are actually just racist bastards that you'll be against? Tell me about vice. I started it in Montreal. Then we moved to New York. I was pushed out because I still had the punk mentality. And they were in bed with Viacom. I think it was progressive and super-walk because that's where the money is at. When did vice go wrong?

Where's with these... A coup sticks! Yeah, the coup sticks are bad, but we'll sort that out in post. I don't know if they do because I think on YouTube you have to start with like, boom, what's the question? Here's the thing. The chatty. But you could have that gold in later. The chatty stuff can be at the end. Are you seeing full body shots? No, you're from the table. From the table up for the rest of the night. Well, why is it pretty much the same thing? Yes, it is body. Okay, so yes. Yeah. The opposite of no. How do you look? You look like... Well, you have white shoes. I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth out of these jeans. What was that? Yeah. What is that? That's a DUI. I can't drink. You can't drink. No. How would it know you've drunk? It tests my sweat every 30 minutes. Not seriously. Well, what do you think it is? I thought it could be like an Apple Watch or something. Yeah, it measures my steps. What? It's the first model. From the 70s. Now they can do it in a long time. It's in a long time. Yeah. It's got a little bell inside. It took a full whist.

With some sand. You imagine the sand at the end of the day. I just... I didn't know. Are you all right? You've drunk messaged me a few times. You're wasting gold. No, it's recording. It's recording. You've drunk messaged me. I've got all the drunk messages from you. Oh, yeah. How are you doing? Those are the glory days. Are you a drinker? What's going on? I'm a big drinker. Is it bad or is it like you're just going through it? Well, it's subjective. In Scotland, I'm a tea toddler in America. I'm a raging alcoholic. But you tell me. Two or three drinks after work. Three to five. Wait, wait. Sorry. This is the ideal drinking world. Nothing Monday, Tuesday. That's two or three beers at home. I count that as zero. That's no zero. That's... Well, you're wrong. Okay. And then Wednesday, well, depending who's at the local, maybe pop by after work, three to five, three to four, two drinks. And then at night, you can have an... So now we're up to four or five on a Wednesday.

Okay. Thursday, all bets are off. You can have five or six, seven. Friday, well, Friday, you can have a hundred. Saturday, you can have a hundred. And then Sunday, let's just take it down a notch. Let's go back to three. Does that sound like a lot? No, no. Good. Well, in America, that's... Someone has an issue. Yeah. I've not had a drink for about ten years. Gaaaaay! I don't like keeping having sex with men. Gaaaaay! Oh, that's not true. That's not the least case. As long as you hate it. That's the kind of thing that Milo, your therapist, would come out with. Like, that's not good. Or like, Andrew takes his gay to five women. Well, you know now that homosexuality is a homophobic term. Because if you're gay, you're just attracted to non-women. Who could have a penis? Yes. Well, we don't know now, do we? Right. Especially when you've had that many drinks. So it's homophobic of you to say, I'm a homosexual. Well, I don't say that. Okay, good.

Well, don't tell them I'm a homosexual. I'm a homosexual. Don't tell them I've been saying that. My wife will be living it. I don't know where to start with you. Tell me about vice. That was mental. Well, vice annoyed me. I said, vice annoyed me because it was a kind of like, look how good we are. We're quite liberal. And then I was trying to make it as a journalist, right? Before YouTube. So what years are we talking here? 2015 to 2018. Okay. And I'm sort of emailing them. I've got this idea. Whatever. I went in for meetings with them sometimes. In the UK. Obviously. In the UK, but I also dealt with a Mexican office. I lived in Buenos Aires for six years. I was dealing with like the Latino side. But you speak Spanish. Yeah. Without an accent. Well, I've learned it in Catechanos. It's what I don't speak Spanish. Well, then you just have to trust that that is something. Sounds believable. It was something even before the next. It sounded like you didn't have an accent. Yeah, I thought you asked the question because you might know. You might speak this. No, there's two ways that like, there's knowing the language. Where you can order a coffee. And then there's like, people don't know that you're not Mexican. That's impressive. That, okay. Well, I think that's impossible because when have you ever met someone who's not from

England or America or Canada or Australia who learned the language, the second language, and doesn't have any accent? Well, I wouldn't meet them. What I... No, but what I'm saying is all part of it. But there are people here who are like, you're talking to them and they're like, yeah, I had a great time at the party and we were there for three days and you go, whoa, whoa, whoa. You just said party. You're German. So they're 99% there. I see. And then there's others who completely assimilate and I'm from Montreal and their conversations will be in English and then there'll be a better word like nezéry and then it'll drift, it'll go into French because they said nezéry and then there'll be a better word like shodden frout and it'll go into German. How's your French? It'll go into back in English. How's your French? It's rusty. I mean, I've been here for a quarter century. So I was fluent. I learned French and then I lived in France for some time but then there was this show called the Tete-de-clack, the Tete-de-clack which was like a Quebec-war show that was like Thoms

that had like people. I thought the ones that go, may what's the tour nicotine? I think that's probably them, yeah. If you eat pizza, you should also do levis. Bloody good point. You have to be better at washing up the pizza. Yeah, yeah, right? That's probably them, yeah. Was that from the show? But it was just the Canadian accent. Someone would have this. Yeah, bombe. Swiss, my grandson, Salmon, Tabernacle. Yeah, that was a lot. We said all their swear words are religious because it's very classic. So Maudit, Chris, Tabernacle, Tabernacle, obviously. Right, my, my. But like, you can work at a daycare and say, fucking shit to the kids. They don't care. Yeah, but you have to stop doing that. They've been, they've been holding. Well, you should work there. Yeah, well, they've got to. You're like, that's what we're ever kid there. I'm a fuck all of you. I could take every single one of you in this whole fucking room. Yeah, that's you every day there. So that's how I found you would cost security. You put the that's how I found the vice people that in any office,

there was something about the culture. And sometimes it'd be like wearing like swimming trunks and shorts and like, a mood, a, a mood, a kind of, I got so pissed off. And I'd go in and I was like, I was on a minimum wage. I was like, and they seem to sort of be laughing at me. And I thought, this is. Are you posh? Well, yeah, but I was, yeah, yeah, I suppose I am. Well, posh people are the laughing stock of the youth. And then you get older and you wish you were posh. No one laughs at posh people when you're in your 40s. I think I just wasn't called like they are. It can't be called posh. Yeah, they were called. But they were all secretly posh. That was the problem with vice. They were posh as well. And they were pretending not to be. That's what you do. Yeah, that's like, look at punk. Look at Joe Strummer was a rich kid. Penny Rimbove, Crass was a rich kid. I mean, you got to buy amps and stuff. Right. But you want to pose as poor. That was vice. Yeah. Did you see that coming? I didn't say, yeah, I'm not, I'm not conceiting. No, that, you can see. Those are the guys you met at vice. Vice was, well, you can concede that vice was like a progressive,

liberal elites establishment by the end. Well, there's a mintment. You're talking about many things here. So I started it in Montreal as a newsprint paper called Voice of Montreal. Then we were a magazine. Then we were national. Then we moved to New York in the late 90s. Then we started getting into video. I was pushed out technically, oh, wait, but things were rocky around 04. Because I still had the punk mentality. And they were in bed with firecom and they, it wasn't compatible. And the sales team, my business model with vice was sales versus editorial. And they should always be fighting each other. And that's how you have good product. But sales can only take so many kicks to the nuts before they go, how about fucking you? And you're like, oh, you pay my rent. I gotta go. So is that just inevitable? Because I've heard murmurings about that with the daily wire at the moment. They were supposed to be the anti-establishment. And then some people say, oh, they become kind of establishment. It's inevitable. The trick is to make it go as long as you can.

Is this good audio me way back here? I think it's going to be all right. Yeah, I'd be a bit full. What do you think of it? A bit full? It is inevitable. I mean, you keep growing and there's more at stake. Obviously. Like, for example, way back towards the end of my day, I did a fashion shoot and I hated fashion shoots. They're so pretentious. So I always make them editorial. Like, here's a bunch of Mexican gangster drug dealers. They're wearing Ralph Lauren and we dress them up. This one I did, everyone's fucking. Can we swear on this? It was too late now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone's ripped down. And you don't see cocks. But, yeah, you can tell they're fucking. The woman's cheeks are flushed. And that loss does like Yamaha or something. So that sales guy who gets, I think it was 10% at the time, he was like, he was getting 100 grand a year out of them. It was more than half of his salary from that one client. And I botched it. So he obviously didn't like me anymore.

And good salesman are incredibly rare. I don't even get how they can do that. I mean, that in a respectful way. So there's constantly people trying to poach them as you get bigger. You know, they're invaluable sales guys. I could do with some good sales guys. Oh, man, it's one in a thousand. Here's the thing about sales. And we do this with pussy in our early 20s. Yeah. But you have to be able to take a no on the chin. And I can't do it. My dad, after he was sort of pushed out for being old in engineering, he started his own thing, RKL, GKL, Gavin Kyle Lorraine, me and my brother and my wife, my mom, whoops. And he'd never done sales before. He's always an engineer. So he'd be like, right, I just want to go to bed on this. And I'm looking to get heavily involved in here. It's going to be more than just a radar sonar system, by the way, by God. And they're like, I'm sorry, I'm not interested. And his first instinct was, no, interested.

How about fuck? Yeah. Wow. Because this is your baby. Yeah. And it's to work on, it's one thing if you say you don't like the rolling stones. I have nothing to do with the rolling stones. But if I'm Mick Jagger, I'm fucking angry right now. You know? So sales guys are guys who can just take no on the chin. That's not the chin. And they don't, it doesn't, it doesn't kill their morale. Now here's the problem with them. They end up being degenerate gamblers because they clearly have selective memory. So they just remember when it's good. So they think they're like good at blackjack. Mm-hmm. You're not good at blackjack. You're not good at tossing a coin. You're not good at rolling dice. That's not a talent. But they're selective memory that helps them in sales, destroys them in gambling. Wow. So you don't want your sales guy getting into gambling? No. But the other problem with your sales guy is you need him socializing. Casinos are a great place to socialize. You need a fat sales guy because he's going out for a huge lunch and a huge dinner. And he needs to drink with these guys and not pass out or not say dumb shit like we're overcharging you.

So it's a very unique guy with a very unique skill set. And they power the economy. They were, they were always cool throughout history. Death of a salesman. You know, there was always a madman. It was always cool to be a sales guy. And then thanks to I would argue John Millius and the movie used cars. Used car salesmen became the laughing stock. And then salesmen became schmaltzy liars. And I don't know why, but they still have the worst reputation ever. I think it done in Davito second. He was in, was that Matilda, I think. Something you said before inadvertently about your mother and your wife. Oh, we're really getting into it. You got them confused. It might be- Have a need of full complex. If you must know. It may be want to tell this joke. Are you ready? Yes. How many Freudians does it take to change a light bulb? I don't know. Ask their mom. Two. Want to change light bulb and the other one to hold my cock. Mother. That's pretty good. Pretty good. How many cops does it take to shove a perp down the stairs?

Oh, God. This is going to be horrible. Go on. None. He fell. It's the joke there that the police are hurting people. Yes. OK, so you like police hurting people? You heard it here first, folks. Where did the- Where did the lies go wrong? Wasn't you in a chain smith? Who made it? Shane Smith and Sourouche Alve. Are you still mates with them? I can't deny. Uh, no. What happens? We had an acrimonious split. I believe the legal term is minority oppression ironically. Yes. Um, but when two shareholders gang up on another shareholder, It's illegal and it goes to court. You fight and then you get money and that's the end of that. Wow And my theory and this is just this is subjective conjecture because I left in08 but I think that this chain Heated that he was the sales guy because that's not cool Yeah, and I was the editorial guy and that's cool. Yeah

But it was his personality like he loves sales and I've always loved the culture like I was making mixed tapes when I was 12 in 1982 Recording the radio and then if it was a bad song rewinding back to the last end of the last song So it's all hits of course it sounds like crap, right because it's recording a radio with a those little computer cassette decks Yeah, probably before your time, but you used to be able to power a computer like with a cassette tape like you get up a video game on a cassette and it would go into your computer anyway I was doing that in the in the early 80s and that was my culture and If your sales you're not really into the culture like I cared about the bands and the artists and I wanted to meet them and Do stuff with them and let's come up with ideas for a concept blah blah blah So I think the grasses always greener and after I was pushed out by Viacom and the sort of machine He goes I want to be the editorial guy and he loved to travel which I was hated and so he made it into like a travel news thing

And then I think as far as politics go it was a map it was just a business decision what are what's making the most money? Well the pink dollar the babysitter babysitter dollar Kylie Kardashian whatever her name is What does that mean the pink dollar the babysitter dollar it teenage girls That they power the economy is that right? Yeah, no one spends more money than them So I thought older people would spend more I've got no idea no older people don't spend any money Shit this was free for my tailor. This was free for the show you matched me on deliberately correct He really you really did message me before and say what colors you are I'm gonna do the same give don't show them how the fucking Rikzuki and I know by always they'll comment and go what that's my they happen to be wearing the same thing Okay, well let let the dogs yap. I've loved that know how the sausage is made What did I see? Dildos The mother Dildos made yeah the spring with the battery and everything it's an interesting point because yeah It's a very unsexy thing how a Dildos made

I can't imagine it being as erotic as what it is anything with the processes is unsexy even putting on lingerie Like what if my wife doesn't have a tree I've done it in years mate. It's so uncomfortable. Yeah David Beckham used to go to belt this creepy you Beckham used to wear his wife's underwear. Oh really? Yeah Yeah, even putting on lingerie. I don't like to see the process. I just want to think but anyway It's one leg actually what you mean sort of stumbling into it. Yeah, and then like getting like if it's fish nets making sure your toes not going through Yeah, I don't even want to know you have toes no But you're not Tarantino. So he wanted yeah, he wanted to do editorial and he did and and I think it was progressive and super Walk because that's where the money is at And then after a while he went and this isn't me. I'm getting bored and he went sort of back into sales Oh, is that what happened what it got all salesy again or he just went into the sales bit and then what happened to vice? Well, he was two people. I think he was the editorial guy doing the travel stuff But still running the ship and then I think maybe he got him broke in me too or something

But he seemed to get scared and then they had the head of an e-takeover This woman who I've heard through the community is thick as shit Uh, the other moms would make fun of her at kids drop off and stuff She doesn't belong in the workforce is my personal opinion and uh That so many companies do this they they they start from the ground up like tower records You couldn't be an executive at tower records if you had never stock stacked shelves And it worked beautifully for them. They survived MP3's they survived disco. They survived CDs They went through all of those changes and adapted And then they started hiring CEOs with business degrees from Harvard and Yale and that was the end of tower records I would argue it's the end of vice. What's your name? Debra Muffick or something Um, and that was the end of vice. I mean, it's it's the end of everything good look at Trump Trump said For his both his campaigns. I'm not interested in advisors. All they do is drain your bank account

You raised 300 million and you lose Where's the money going so he ignored all his advisors and that's how we won in 2015 and that's how we won in 2020 What what is that out of 15 one of me win again, you know, the times he won 2016 when he's 16 I guess yeah What all would you define that as how do we categorize that as it is it is it kind of a Like an authoritarian liberal elite strand are we to it's because it's kind of all well-earned isn't it these suits yeah It look we were taught this a long time. It's right about what you know What's what's that uh Scottish Captain of the book shakultan shakultons way yeah, yeah that guy was stranded on the ice His thing was like if this guy was assigned to accounts and I saw he's always playing with the dogs and the dogs loved him You're not in accounts anymore. You're our dog guy You handle the dogs for when it's snowing and we run the sheep dogs to go see if we can get help all that stuff You're that guy Like god tells us what we're good at and he reminds us constantly and when we stray

Like I took guitar lessons and I felt god's hand upon my shoulder Just going this is not for you my friend. It's a shame because what you just said would be excellent lyrics for I felt go say I can't write lyrics. I felt it was the guitar. He wasn't yeah, you need to get back into the lyrics Yeah, well skateboarding I tried forever even boxing. I was boxing this morning. I boxed every day And I just have an ungift an ungift for once ungifted in skateboarding guitars and boxing But if you could just combine the three Oh Yeah, it's hard because boxing and guitars are two hands. Yeah, you'd struggle Um, so is that what happened essentially to vice because now actually that you put it that way That's what I kind of experienced. I experienced people who I feel was straight out of university had never actually had jobs themselves and were part of a kind of posh elite but were dressed up as though they were like cool skateboarder guys Yeah, I mean you're talking about Mexican vice 10 years after I had a UK vice London vice 10 years after you left I'm also new if that's what happened to you. Maybe maybe maybe but you know cool as always been

Had a huge element of posing I mean who's a it was authentically cool So I'm not sure if I'm talking about CEOs being hired from Harvard and stuff or other failing companies That cultures what I'm against as far as like the people you came across I don't know cool as always been a pose. I mean who look at look I think what happens with cool is you get to somewhere like New York City and there's all this pressure on you to be cool And odds are pretty high. You're not So you take heroin and heroin gives you a guy like Mick Jagger was saying this the other day He goes if you're not you know if you're uh if you're when you like 20s early 30s and everyone loves you Uh, you got to have a big ego Because if you don't then someone will make one for you and I think heroin is like you don't have a guy Okay, you're Sid vicious now Get wrecked and bump into shit and stuff and oh your Lou Reed you're a nerd Jew from Long Island now You're Lou Reed with the sunglasses at night and you're a cool guy now they all end up dying. Yeah, but I think

To be cool you have to Work really hard at being something you're not and heroin is happy to give you a whole wardrobe But there's a James Dean and you're right because I'm thinking that he was supposed to be the cool guy James Dean right? Yeah, that looks very pose-y to me He invented it cool didn't start until 1953 Before that teenagers were just young adults then you had Rubble without a cause and you had the wild ones around the same time around 53 That was Marlon Brando Right because Jack Nicholson's in one of them around that time maybe 10 years later. I don't know he's in some sort of Easy pieces or something or buy come easy rider right? Yeah, yeah Yeah That was getting into the 70s and the hippies and everything. Oh, it was in much later But like wearing a t-shirt was a big deal in the 50s. That's your undershirt It's like wearing your underwear on top of your pants and Marlon Brando and James Ciner both wearing t-shirts And I'm not a young adult. I don't want to be an adult. I'm a teenager Where our own culture we smoke cigarettes and we drive motorcycles

I mean, he didn't hurt that these guys had just come out of World War Two where they're riding giant Harley's across northern Africa And they're shooting people in the head So they come back and people like Jen's mad at you and you're like, well fuck her That's pretty interesting. I've said you got the hell's angels in all those biker clubs. They were bored vets from World War Two Wow That's really interesting and I think that okay now I'm looking at what's happened in the last 20 years That kind of masculinity is no longer considered cool at all Well, so what happened in the past 20 years is we let the nerds take over yeah, and it started with Grunge Grunge was cool, but it was it had balls like you didn't want to fight Nirvana Especially that giant Serbian bass player Or crow ad whatever he is jokimic and then that led to indie music And in the mid to late 90s all of a sudden it was cool to be a loser and radio head had I'm a creep I'm a loser

Backhead I'm a loser baby. Why don't you kill me? You had really ugly nerdy comedians like David Cross pat and Oswald Louis CK It was cool to be an underdog and when I was in high school Even when I was in high school the sort of cheerleader football player thing Was fading and it was cool to be The zip remedy from digressy junior high or ducky from 16 candles remember that character It's got a little pork pie hat and a vest and red chucks I always get the movie wrong 16 candles But anyway, it was cool to be a loser for a very long time and trump came along and said yeah We're not doing this anymore because he's really into winners like if you win a game of darts. He wants to talk to you And he's in the meritocracy and that means a total lack of shame So I'm driving a jet ski. I'm chiseled. I have a mullet and wrap around shades and my chick behind me has is topless And that especially being Canadian like that was

River boat Like if you've show up in a Ferrari Right now in Bushwick you're you're a legend If you shut up in a Ferrari in Montreal in 1995 people just laugh at you. You're a loser. Guido like cheeseball and Trump came along and said no, you're not it's awesome to have a sports car like that And so as Steve Bannon would say they're not going to give it up without a fight the losers are apoplectic right now Because they've been they've been running the show for 20 years. It's like that's why proud boys were so vilified Because they were just dudes It was animal house. It is animal house. Mm-hmm and that animal house wasn't Raining supreme. It's ironic now that animal house are sort of seen as the jocks Whereas they were the nerdy underdogs. Yeah back when the movie was made I'm staggered by what you've just said. I you just condensed that you should you should have a do you ejaculate? Yeah, I did Looked it on the slide. Yeah, but aside. Yeah, that was before you'd even said that's pus

That's a sore Has to come out of the penis the the source. I mean, it's a funny. This is a funny thing. I've noticed there's like a lot of women like to pop their guys Pussy spots. Yeah, that's what I call when my wife gives me a hand job. I just tell her it's a bunch. Let's yeah So the affection similar sizes Involves and so so it's amazing though because what the way you've put that together because what you're saying I mean it might sound initially surface level Navanna call whatever but ultimately if you let the losers if if you make being a loser you incentivize being a loser And I don't think I'm exaggerating because it's gonna I'm gonna it's gonna be a leap you're essentially moving the culture towards socialism and communism What yeah Right, we're done. I've just solved it. I'm not signing and I've solved politics. Don't worry about that Summer as kids meant freedom no homework teachers or school Mint mobile summer sale brings it back all plans even unlimited a $15 a month freedom from big wireless gimmicks and gotchas

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Spend Georgia using clean May this your most rewarding season ever with Fandruh agent location restrictions apply product availability varies by market cfandruh.com for eligibility gambling problem call 1-800-Gemmer No, of course you're because you're incentivizing not being Meritocratic as you said you're in some I'm pro meritocracy trump is pro meritocracy. Yeah, I'm on your site I'm saying if you if the losers are cool As they watch the losing wins. Yes. Okay. Good. Yeah few I have to say things several times maybe we'll edit out Well, that's my like bright part always said the politics is downstream from the culture. Yeah, and we're living in an example of that So the the losers have just gotten more and more radical and like this week We are in a crazy scenario where I can't tell if the the Democrats are putting the radical communist out to pasture Or they're putting them in the front window and saying buy me Because they've got all of these like jasmine crocket and and mammdani himself like radical

leftist communists that want to abolish literally abolish the presidency. We don't need presidents anymore They want to abolish you know private ownership like pure not more radical than marks, I would say they're Stalinists And we created that by saying we're not doing this anymore. You have to actually do your homework and you know They're going nuts. They're going insane. He got in those. No, he won the vote. He won Everyone is supporting no one like oh you mean mammdani. Yeah. Yeah, that's just that's deceiving because New York City is retards mm-hmm who just vote for him because he's brown that's a massive swath and they have no idea what any of his policies are And then the second Massive force is rich kids who are here on their parents time and they just like the fact that he's like weird Fuck you daddy. Yeah, like he could have if he had a neck tattoo. They would have voted for him. It's not even that brown. Is he No, well here. What's going on with mammdani is fascinating

uh My theory is that there's an innate jealousy when you're from the turd world right And you can sit there and you can bask in that jealousy or you can say actually don't like them I'm actually I enjoy being in Uganda So That is a much more palatable way to be than envy and you see this with small countries next to big countries like as a Canadian We always had to write an essay what makes you Canadian? It was always like well, I'm not racist And I don't I'm not in the clan and I don't have a pickup truck like it was always I'm not American Yeah, or you see that was Scotland in England. They hate England like the reason my parents would celebrate hug man Is because it's they see Christmas as English right? So it's a spite. It's jealousy and spite. They're the same things really It's it's something I've picked up on having lived in several different countries is that nationalism seems to be a leftist cause in those smaller countries Sure, it's on the right in Britain

America maybe Australia. Yeah, and it makes you easy prey like how did Castro Take over Cuba. He went to the dumb villagers and said Don't be jealous of those guys. You're better than them. They're jealous of you. Let's go kill them and Take all their stuff and then we'll have that because we deserve it more than you. You're better than them And one in the end I And so I think he he like right now he just said all of these stupid food trucks where they're cooking hamsters and everything They're not hamsters, but they're those big hamsters the cats and the dogs The cats almost you're amazing accents by the way your Mick Jagger was like he was in the I just bust that's my first Mick Jagger ever you've just he just came out you just feel the lips The next man Yeah, because it wasn't just English you can do British because you're your family's British and I was born in England I am English. Yeah, so can you can you ever go back to I heard you do a sort of What would you go London accent with Liam? Well, what gaze don't mark about don't mark

I was with Tommy in spain he was on a lamb. Yeah, he's lagging it and I'm there with Liam and a few other tosses and Fucking I gotta go back. I mean we just we've been on the session You've got a lot of Tommy in you by the way. I was thinking this earlier as you were talking because the thing of what that I don't know if people know about Tommy Robinson say he has a tremendous amount of energy in how he is and talks. Oh, yeah, he's got just so much and if we play paddle tennis with him bike he's relentless No, you've got to get him drunk to get him to calm down There's nothing more dangerous than a sober Tommy Roberts. Yeah, yeah, that's it. He's a tornado He's got to stop though when he gets interviewed by like old ladies on channel four He's got to stop putting his hands up like that. I said to him. It's not a good look. Go on. You are No, you tell me you tell me what I've said that was right. You tell no, no, you tell me no, no, come on No, you tell no, you're journalists. You're journalists. Yeah, he does that That weird thing about luten is the oe Like I see oe not serving you anymore beer to get those bloody cows out

Bristolian almost I see it as like you're in English. Oh, he might. Yeah, it's oe oe going down. It's not nor that it would be West country. It's out west That's where that comes from and it must have made its way into London It's West and East as well. They both have that kind of oe But he's not London. He's luten. No, no, I know. I don't know. Well, it's 10 minutes away I know but they don't say oe going I think it's just I think it's just I think he's got speech in his It's him. We kind of speech impediment. I'm from it. We're from my mother used to go and get groceries in luten Yeah, I'm from what for this 20 minutes away. Oh really. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I don't do that. It's just just luten That's just tell me what I'm not a But wait, what are we talking to people? No, you're going way too far back Uh, I was born in England. You do good impressions. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Can you do me? Uh, hello. I was a vegetarian for a very long time And I'm actually quite left when I was living in Argentina

Uh, I noticed that the people there were actually they'll eat caterpillars Which I find revolting and as a vegetarian it's against ethics. I mean, I will eat a bug But a caterpillar it's so juicy, you know I think that feels slightly posh than me I'm not sure though. Maybe it's not maybe you're trying to unpass it Yeah, well that happens and I I remember because that's quite you know You know, but as we're gonna you know about Britain and Britain class is such a big thing and how you sound And I've always been obsessed with it a little bit And I always remember my dad because my dad's kind of working class and I and I remember saying Tim like dad a wee Posh and he was like no you are So weird thing, isn't it? And then I remember when I was at seven we were to go to the football and the football used to be a working class game It's not really now. Thank you for saying this. Yeah, well it was and and so my I remember my dad He'd got our seats and then my brother was coming along as well So he could only find a third seat about ten seats down So he took me over seven years old and he sat me down and there was just some bloke surrounds me You know, and it's a bit intimidating and all that and he just said to these guys like this is my son He's gonna have the season ticket here. He's gonna be here and he then went off and I just it just came

I looked up these guys. I just went like well, that's how's it going? The problem was whenever my dad came over I had to like not talk or whatever I couldn't have him know and also He's got a logger. I just like got to like 13 or 14 or 15 I started this is ridiculous I'm going to one of the Posh schools in the country and then on the Saturday I'm going in and talking like oh I'll add yeah, yeah, but it sort of happened naturally So I had to very gradually over a period of years go back to who I You know how I taught now. Yeah, it's called code switching. Yeah, right. I did it recently. I I'm against budding in line But this guy out of nowhere who worked there showed up with a wheelchair He goes to the lounge disgusted. No, he had he was pushing it and he goes Well, and I compromised my ethics and I got in the wheelchair What to push the law in a queue he pushes me past the entire queue for money It's the trick. The third world has invaded Mexico is in America right now. So he probably doesn't speak English He takes me to the delta lounge. I believe it was I go up the elevator and then he wants I only have five bucks

It's at least a $20 favorite right? So I give him the five. I'm like yeah, he has he brings me someone along He's like you're being frank. I go like this guy recognize me. It's like he's worthy So he's my son so we both go up and I go do you not have any more money? And he's like I don't who has money at a airport So we give him like eight bucks and Then he takes the wheelchair away before I'm sat as you people say so I have to like stay like Candy cap oh for fuck's sake um, I thought having Gavin McGinnis on is like does this is a cancelable offense We're beyond that on this channel. Is there something he's gonna do that is beyond anything? How is this this is happened? I don't know You're showing people I crippled That's gonna be cut that's gonna be cut But I'm telling you a true story. I love this is the most amazing example of third worldism has invaded This is your political tirade against the third world and it's you man. When in Rome it's you they can't be them join them

Faking being disabled to push in the line at an airport presumably that when you weren't gonna miss your flight anyway No, I'm old we go like four two days before so I'm in the lounge I'm not at the gate or anything I'm in the lounge the elite lounge. Yeah, yeah, yeah um And they give you these little plates because they don't want you eating too much. So the thing about um the lounge is It's got an incredible turnover. Yeah, so the people who saw me like Yeah, uh they left After 20 minutes So just like you at the soccer game. I got less and less retarded as There'll be funny about returbo is watching mean he's like Hey, he really is conquering this Like live as M&M says the thing about retarges the great thing about retarge is they don't know they're retarge So no one's gonna complain. Well, I know I'm a retarge So then oh not again. I sort of got to let oh please Yeah, and cut less and less handicapped. Yeah, yes as the time went on until I had merged back into myself

I don't know who's gonna be more offended the the handicapped people or maybe working class football fans who saw that as a The only people I I like to offender the mutes because they're like They can't do much about it. I don't know if he's obviously retarded. I don't know what he's nagging about and then when everyone's turning around But wait to get back to what you're saying. I think it's very important in it I asked this to a journalist at GB news once when we were we we we toured the House of Lords When I was at the last not the last but the second last unite the right unite the kingdom thing uh, mother for the insolute and uh, I said this to the I asked the journalist this question and Ezra Levant texted me after he goes the thing I loved about your question is it was so sane Meaning you're a mental patient, but here's what I here's the theory I positive and I'm glad that you brought it up when I was a kid soccer football was working class Yeah, and if a glass go its Celtic versus Rangers, but

Put down in in London that arsenal all that it was it was working class. Yeah, this is the 70s around the 80s The middle class started getting interested in what's going on over there. What do you guys up to? So they started going to matches and they were not welcomed There's massive class problems in Britain that no American could ever understand. It's fucking the weird um, we have a million accents here no one cares, but in Britain like One accent can't be with another accent, but anyway I think the middle class the British middle class was very pissed off by the way they were received Pears Morgan being one of them the most powerful one though being Tony Blair right so Tony Blair starts going to games like what you doing You notes about you're not sitting here Go get me a beer um, and so what did they do? They opened the borders him and that speech writer guy to as an hija forage said Rub the the working classes knows in it. They did say that didn't they did that's rubbed the working classes. Well, I think forage is paraphrasing

But it was something like that. Yeah, he's a new council fan Tony, but I didn't know that um So These open borders and the massive influx of immigrants you guys are getting is spiked just like I was saying earlier It's revenge for the way Tony was treated and all middle class brits were treated at the soccer match Same with this this this pancey-nance The guy who does has a john Oliver. Oh, yeah, he's another one who you can just smell the resentment that he wasn't embraced by the working class So he he did a thing on football at one point and I don't watch much john Oliver as you can imagine But I happen to be tuned in at this point and he was talking about football soccer You know, and he was he was saying He started explaining it and he said that the premier league in England there are 18 teams blah blah blah blah blah blah Anyone who has actually ever watched football in England knows there are 20 teams. It's like they everyone knows Like like I'm not suggesting that people who don't know about football should know that why should they find right? Everyone knows his 20 and I went oh, there's something off about this guy. What's he pretending? What's he hiding?

It was odd Well, I guess the goal is to pretend as little as possible, you know, like they say The key to happiness is to surround yourself with people. You can be your most yourself with I said my wedding speech I met that when I got married obviously While wedding speech I made two years before I met my I just go from wedding to wedding making this speech. Excuse me I think it's actually a Louis K line. I can't remember who it was from but I said you know you found the right person when you found the person You can be racist with Yes, and that's it right? Yeah, and then it's not I mean, it's not even supposed to be that funny It's that's it you find someone you can say whatever you want with well They made us racist by making racism cool and when I say racist. I mean fascist I mean homophobic. I mean sexist all of the bigotry they made it for both they yeah, and they also like They've been doing this forever Archie bunker was supposed to be a villain right I don't know guys really well So it was a popular show in the 70s and 80s in America right right right

And Norman Lear who did LeBernard Shirley in happy days and all American TV happy days. Yeah, he went he met He wanted to hurt you to be a villain. What show is this Archie bunker's place all in the family rings about oh eat it were you stifled he was a blue collar guy from Queens of the cigar And he king of queens back all this yeah, well the king of queens best friend is black. This was different He was like a bigot okay, but he was very lovable and You know, it was based on steptoe and son right right no steptoe So steptoe was also supposed to be a bad guy. He became lovable everyone liked him And they did this with prowboys like these are white nationalists And then you'd see them in their black and Asian and Jewish and fun And so what you accidentally did you left him or unsus you made A commercial for bigots that sounds cool. So they go well he's black He's drinking beer and making fart jokes and he's called a white nationalist I guess I'm a white nationalist then. I thought it was people who hate blacks. I see so they made it cool

By calling everyone that they diluted the equation until it was just everyone interesting. I'm gonna ask you a boring question Oh This is the question if you're on the BBC now if you're on the BBC the question is oh Well Won some of those people in the prowboys didn't some of them get quite violent weren't some of them racist. What's the deal? Who when where you tell you're a journalist Oh, I'm not a journalist you're a journalist you tell me what specifically you're talking about right right? Okay, right Right come on You're right I want to do your co-crafting the snow that was not a co-crafting what he was just constantly inhaling Tell me would probably say he doesn't do that anymore But he doesn't hail a lot for his nose it might be a habit from previous If he were hypothetically doing cocaine he would not be talking to journalists he'd be Infstruck for Chire I just made that out he seems like he's on it. We'll be talking because he's got so much. I'm not no He's I promise you if if he was on the sash

We're not visible to the public Although I did a speech in Britain at the end of a sash In London with him that no free speech thing that must have been seven eight years ago now and I was fucking Destroyed shit house up for three days. It was one of the worst speeches in the history of because you've been on the white stuff Well, I don't do the white stuff, but yeah So yeah the proud boys saying I mean anecdotal evidence all I it's like McDonald's right if McDonald's was not serving meat Yeah, you'd go well. That's not McDonald's So the blueprint the the Constitution of proud boys is not racist. It's we take anyone in and there's a A real logic to that my when I formed the club The attitude was like if a black guy is pro Trump He gets shat on a Thanksgiving at Christmas from his brothers every time he's hanging out And that does two things it exhausts him, but it also turns his arguments into a diamond tip spearhead that can resist anything

And I I prefer them to like a conservative from Texas who's always love this country. It's easy And my attitude with them was like if you're getting all the doors shut on you In the rain and you come into the proud boys place Uh, you're welcome in here. Do you find there are people not in the proud boys, but are you finding there are figures out there who are actually just racist bastards that you'd be against Uh, no, there's there's people I disagree with and I disagree with the whole concept of disagreements Surely the KKK are they still going to exist? That's not a thing. Is that so if they what if they did exist you'd be against them Sure, yeah Well, that's what I'm wondering that's what you know, but like what are they doing are they are they grabbing black people under their homes and hanging them Well who the hell would not be against that? Okay, okay, that's insanity. I don't I don't know We hear about the KKK every day. I'm even reticent to discuss it right now because it's such a retarded Boogie man. It's like 1780 year old guys like for example

They genuinely did lynching a guy was the last lynching in America 1981 Michael Donald was his name There hadn't been a lynching before that since like For a hundred years. It's not a thing and by the way very unfortunate detail during the lynchings in America They were all guilty. It wasn't race-based a third of them were white Who they were they were catching rapists and child blisters and thieves. Wow, they can't you weren't hanging because you were black Two-thirds were black, but that's about how they appear in the crime stats See I thought the disabled bit was gonna be the bit Well, I mean, I'm against it's lynching is horrible and all the whites who died that were lynched is Like my art bleeds for them even if that's the case. What is it? Someone's law it's one of these laws that that typically one out of 10 or one out of a hundred people even in our prisons today Are actually innocent right you're always gonna come oh I think it's more I would say five percent of the people in prison Uh, are incompatible with society

95% are domestic drugs. Yeah Uh bullshit charges guns yeah in gunplaces We don't have to reason that many of the lynchings the ones of white and of black people will probably might have been innocent people maybe Maybe they all they got that five percent maybe it was much more efficient than our current justice system Which is terrible, but anyway, so Michael Donald was lynched a black guy murdered a cop But it looked like he was gonna get away with it so the these guys who were in the clan they murdered a random black guy Who was totally innocent just because he was black. I mean, it's a chef's kiss for the left But it's not a it's not a pattern. It's not a phenomenon Anyway, the the SPLC sued the KKK. Oh, they bankrupted the clan is the headline The the clan the entire clan owned one warehouse in Alabama that was worth 60 grand They gave Michael Donald's mother the rights to this warehouse thanks for the 60 grand my son is dead And then the SPLC went and ran that photo which don't look it up. It's brutal

He's hanging like this his legs are folded and he's wearing like lakers and like converse So it's not like some guy in a bow tie like this is a modern man being lynched So it's a horrific image But the SPLC put it in their mail-outs and they raised at least seven million dollars on that image Michael Donald's wife didn't receive a cent of that money They got rich off it and that to me is a microcosm of the modern left of propaganda I'm going to lie take this Aborant random anecdotal case make it into a pattern and get rich off it, but it's not a pattern So who is racist today that I hate? I don't know. I mean like there's that guy who does the monkey thing on that Internet thing where you you keep meeting new people and like a girl will show up and he'll be like what's up? Why power is he go blah blah? You know I'm talking about he's not talking about it. It's what he's shit posting as he always Him and that joker guy gypsy crusader

He's like that guy and he's got a salt and pepper go tea and he's very offensive and racist and anti-Semitic I don't know. Is he hurting anyone? Is he doing anything? He's he's spewing hate is And that's he's the worst it gets there's chud the builder who's in jail now There's gypsy crusader who just sits in his room. I'm not trivializing these guys either like if you would take the very worst white racist you find It's milk toast in black America like What we were just hearing about something today that was like the most horrific thing imaginable and it wasn't true like like Trump will say Something that Hitler also said like the blood and soil or something. Yeah, right? Then you have black Muslims nation of Islam who honestly believe that their god Yakub Created white people in a lab just to antagonize everyone Like gremlins literally like gremlins who got sunlight and water. That's what white people you've got a gremlin. He kind of You know, it's funny. Three water or post water. Well, maybe it's a lephe conny conny. I don't know. Okay, because they were very cute

Yes, but then they turn into Miles Davis. Yeah, when they get water and son. I don't want to be that guy You want to be a kid? I was just in Japan and I saw a bit of this lived in Shibuya I was living in Shibuya No, I was on holiday and vacation and I was watching a It's a winter cinema because I could just get tired and I'm just gonna cinema. I don't want to look at Japanese shit anymore Yeah, you get overwhelmed there. It's just too much and then The thing before the show before the movie is like don't talk on your phone kind of cartoon And it just showed endless versions of things you could be doing about annoying people in the cinema and every time It was a white blonde woman being annoying And all the Japanese guys in the cinema just being like Like that and the woman's like that On the phone. Yeah, like they don't give a shit. No, I've seen ads on the subway there where it's monkeys Wow that are making noise and being annoying and it's clearly a reference to the black people staffs and American people of color Yeah, but sorry to get back to what you're saying with the bad guys like Yeah, Nick Fuentes. He's the top villain today, right

Yeah, he's very charismatic. I would consider him a friend Okay, I totally I'm a Zionist. I love the J's yeah We disagree on that and I love arguing with him. We's become pretty true friendly recently Well, I think yeah, maybe maybe his political aspirations and he's diluting it a bit But he should dilute it a bit it was too much and then I have like rabbi John Gross Good friend of mine. He's currently helping return to the land, which is an all whites community He's helping them because they're getting attacked by the department of Homeland security maybe no department of black people the department of homes whatever that is Yeah, okay, but anyway, yeah, I'll argue with him about Jesus because he doesn't believe in Jesus So these are all ideas like what kind of a pussy are you if you're scared of ideas? I don't know and that's where we're at I don't believe in Jesus What are you like a weird pagan or something stupid? Just just don't believe in things Yeah, you're British, but you know, Britain I believe he lost it's lost God. Meanwhile, you're fucking flag

Is the Christian cross and the St Andrews cross combined the British flag? Um, yeah Yeah, look I would wait the if it was a fair split it would be More blue crosses than like I was looking at the Union Jack today at the gym You guys go let's unify and bring Scotland in The St Andrews cross and then you look at it. It's like you got the Red Cross And then you guys also get the red X And what are the Scots get some blue triangles in the corners? Not very magnuminius of you. Well, there's only a magnetism. Yeah, both There's only about seven left anyway. I went up then I went scots. I went to Scotland once and I went so Living in Pollock Shars. I was living in like a how do you die? Where Jakey Rowling was inspired By bad there's streets of Edinburgh. I went to the but I And I went into every fucking place and I said have you got fried Mars bar? Because that's the thing but they get very offended. I just had it on the weekend. Did you? Yep with ice cream tea and sympathy

uh and Assault and battery are two cousin sister stores in the west village And they have totally authentic fish and chips better than most places in the second one sounds very Scottish certainly Which one a tea and sympathy? Assault and battery yeah But they were very fended I think because I was suggesting you know that Scotland because they die at about 50 of heart attacks Well, it's class region really. Yeah, well that was it. Yeah, they were so you're calling them like Jersey trash. Yeah Uh, I when I was last in London I was very disappointed in the death of the bar. I think there's better British bars in America than they were in Britain now No one's standing at the fucking bar anymore They go there they get their drinks the bartender is Ukrainian and doesn't do any pattern as they say in Glasgow In a pot or the rotten you want like stinging snatch or whatever it was I want to sit and like I do in my local which is an Irish pub I sit I stand I lean on the bar. I tell the bartender my troubles. That's my therapy. Adam Brooks

No, you'd like him. He's a GB news presenter And but he's a publican here in the pub and he's often behind the bar talking to people and stuff Okay, well, I hope they're at the bar because whether we're rural like when I was with Liam toughs down by what's that airport got Wek down in the Gatwick zone. Hope I'm not doxing him. Oh, yeah Beautiful traditional British pub be brought me to but what do you do you get your pint And then you go sit at a table that's a restaurant I don't want to sit at a table. I want to stand at a bar and I went all the beauty of your phone now is you're in London And you go oldest pub in London and it shows you like you get on the The Picadilly line and you're there in seconds. Yeah, yeah. I went to them all and Not one of them had people standing at a bar out of maybe 10 Did you check the floor I guess I'm boring. I was thinking the word standing was ambitious when you've been drinking that much Yeah, okay, you're telling us the origin of your jokes now. I thought the song people I arrived at my last quip

What about I interviewed Who who said he wants England to be it's sort of ethnic based along ethnic lines and he would say that I would have to leave as a Jew um Yeah, and the blacks would have to leave and the you know and so on what Is that a dangerous view? Yeah, that Richard Spencer and I got into an argument about that and I think it's just Retarded like he wants the blacks to go back to Africa. How I want a giant cruise ship We just carnival cruise doesn't come back. Is that the plan? It's it's a juvenile silly way to see the world you got to deal with the the cards you're dealt but FanDuel is now available everywhere in the US So you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are including these places And Georgia using clean May this year most rewarding season ever with fan dual agent location restrictions apply product availability varies by market See fan dual com frail eligibility gambling problem call 1 800 gammler

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I do think that immigration was a catastrophe and this is all in the Bible in the Tower of Babel Yeah, where God said I like you guys talking to each other but not too much And I want it to be in broken English or I'm gonna smash your your giant tower And what we were talking about earlier with the middle class at the football games like It sounds like I'm going back, but I'm bringing back what we were talking about to this discussion and You like some people are not meant to be in other scenes like I remember when we were in high school. There was this kid David Macintosh And we were kind of the we were the punks of the school. Yeah, did you have to is he gonna sue us? Okay, we didn't know his name you don't say a lot as you could sue you if you lied You could have just said a different name bulb. Why would I do that? I'm telling the truth all right go on about David Macintosh So David wasn't it he was getting bullied a lot He was very intelligent Yeah, and this is back in the 70s where you would or maybe early 80s when you would bully smart guys Which I think we might want to bring back um And I thought we the thing about the punks is we lived in a sort of a satellite from the in crowd and the not in crowd and

We weren't it's sort of like Scottish people. Yeah, no one goes like oh lord. There's some sqs regions here tonight But they go oh lord. There's some East Londoners So we were the scots of the school and so I go let's bring David Macintosh out now We had two chicks in our crew and Tammy Cargo and Kim Gustafson Um, I lost my virginity at Kim Gustafson I can't believe you're saying the four names of people She's dead. Okay, Kim's dead. You'll be happy to hear Um, and I cannot recommend enough by the way if you're with your wife and you're trying to last Picture a woman you've been with who's dead. Jesus Christ. And imagine like her weird road kill like You know how they look like a cat by the side of the road. Yeah, it buys you like two minutes Yeah, if it doesn't you got a problem Yeah, if you immediately ejaculate you gotta get divorced and sequester Jimmy Savo So I brought Dave out with us and he fell in love with Tammy of course And then we're doing jungle juice where you take like a bit of gin a bit of rum a bit of vodka from your parents liquor cabinet You put it in a jar and you drink that in the forest. This is in Canada. Yeah, and uh, what did he do?

We're doing We're traversing the canada overpass from the forest back to civilization And he's on all fours projectile vomiting going Tammy. I love you brother That was God saying you shouldn't have brought a nerd into your crew and he was the nerd. He was the nerd Maybe it was God sort of hazing him and making him stronger so the next time he'll he'll be a bit less nerd I think he went back to where he belonged We're not we're not meant to mix and Like you know, it used to be when you traveled you get some clogs when you're in the Netherlands and stuff You know, you'd get local fare you get a tam when you're in Glasgow And now it's all the same garbage every across the entire world. That's not good It's globalism the globalism. That's where we're at right now. I'm so sick. I'm so I'm actually tired of it I'm tired of it because I'm in New York right and you walk around New York And I've not seen Dustin Hoffman walking there and smashing a car and going I'm walking here You know, I'm just saying that accent is is an endangered species gone

So you'll talk to I'm walking here. Yo, what the fuck you come in here Yeah, you act like you own the place you walk right by my son. You can't say how do my son Vinnie say hello And then Vinnie says hey, mr. McKinnes how are you? And I'm just like a rapier in my chest. You want Vinnie don't you mean? Hey, mr. McKinnes how you doing murder what murder? It was the best guy around But that accent is dead and it's because of globalism. It's because of the internet like black people they have one accent What is it It's like this hello, mr. I'm a happy out with you. That's why why did I ask the In England there's this it's called it's called a road man accent. Yeah, I eat it. It's horrible It's it's Jamaican is what it is here to make it me crazy. Yeah Sorry bare grills and all that stuff because he got it and go on and everything Yeah, I love it in Jamaica. Don't get me wrong. Yeah

That didn't didn't feel like a specific criticism. That was just bare grills and shit Oh, no bare bare means a lot and grills is gals is girls. We know who bare grills His name also means lots of girls. He's a question. I fucked him at a party once. Did you? No, that was not true Although sometimes when I'm on the toilet without my phone, I feel like bare grills Because I'm like a survivalist. Yeah, that's when you're shitting closest to nothing nature Nothing but toilet paper and a toilet You can't do it with your t-shirt off though because I'm sitting on my Japanese bidet with no phone And 12 oh yeah nothing but that's the best thing about you. Well, we've got a diarrhea epidemic right around the corner So it's a good time to buckle down and to get your bidet in order. Do you what do you mean all of America has diarrhea right now? Is that right? Yeah, the attitudes and stuff there's a well the problem again with globalism We used to have local food now. There's one distributor that basically does the entire country 70% Restaurants are from one distributor. So when there's bad lettuce. We have all got diarrhea

Coast to coast. That's gonna be the trailer Well, it's it's the Midwest right now. It's it's Milwaukee, I think but you you talk to someone who you haven't heard from in America In two weeks and they'll explain it. They've been on the bowl Wow. Yeah, this is the third wall worldization of this country Yeah, yeah Well, it's probably you know third world workers They have they have to put up signs at these farms. It's a wash your hands and don't touch your ass And then touch the food and they completely ignore them even though they're pictorial I'm pretty sure that white Americans also have an issue with washing their hair I've seen you know and white English people they they don't always wash their hands I've seen that well, I never wash my hands very pissed Yeah, well, that's the funny thing isn't it and then your wife wants you to and you're like well, I haven't really touched very much Well, I'm you probably have a foreskin or weight your jewels right? Yeah, yeah So us four skinnights. Oh, you're Jewish right? When we shake it some drops can land on your hand, but I'm like it's ammonia Who cares if there's some ammonia on your hand? It's not like your your hands are dripping with dick cheese

That's also in the trailer Although I said that to my friend lieutenant Ron the other day I'm like, I'm not washing my hands for piss. It's just pee Yeah, but I don't want to on my hands when I'm eating And I was like pretty good point. That's a good point. You don't want to touch someone else's ammonia So I'm not spitting about the she eat at brown. You're ammonia away from me The things we've eaten and stuff in our lives without realizing it is not it's not good. I doesn't bear thinking about Hot dogs are delicious You know what I was a vegetarian for 15 years. Yeah, that's why I'm so petite My dad my sons my brother they're all giants and I'm this meek little woman because I ate tofu from 14 to 30 Well the transition's gone well. It looks you look you know you look authentic. I'm supposed to be a hulking mass I'm a Viking Scotsman. I should you should be petrified right now. Yeah, instead of an arseman saying I'm walking here. I'm ratso rizzo I'm just about walking here. That's tough to sell you

But you'll think okay, so your your idea is like look we've got to fight more We've got to beat get rid of the geeks. Isn't there an idea of like well slow down slow down This is your idea. I'm saying some people don't belong together. Yeah, I'm saying that isolationism is good I'm saying let a thousand flowers bloom as mal would say but bloom in their individual little things And that's what culture is I would argue my argument is more multicultural because this globalism is one Gray culture like even today when I was buying those comic books if they found out who I was I wouldn't be allowed in the store Okay, so in that world everyone who walks into your store has the same political beliefs as you That's bland. I saw what was her name Sandra Bernhardt talking about the lack of nuance in modern discourse Like that guy from Mumford and sons you probably had him on your show Winston. Yeah, I was out of denim couple nights guys Yeah, okay, well, you're both posh. I assumed you were that's good. Yeah, that's true So he was kicked out of the band. He's from a different not for zege hiling but for reading a book that he shouldn't have read and liking it

And liking it so you know his book so now when we see a band yeah Everyone on stage has read all the books I've read and liked them the correct amount That's insane. That's why it's made that is a pink Floyd wall the wall movie Yeah, it is what vice became in many ways and it's It's a horrific view of the world like they like for me. They'll go. Oh, he said this thing like I did a video 10 things I hate about the goddamn mother fucking Jews. Yeah, you did yeah, okay now obviously it was a joke um, but they go well what he does is he he trodgen horses his hate in jokes And what that is is it's someone incapable of differentiating between humor and serious like Ricky Jervais Will will muck about and then when he talks about free speech or atheism he's very serious I'm an adult I can differentiate between those two But the modern left and the modern ethos and the modern epoch we're in right now is Don't allow for any nuance if that guy said the n word even if he was saying it's a terrible word and I hate it

He's banished and that's that's not that's powerfully unwestering and it's powerfully un-American Liberals man The Ricky Jervais thing it's a really complex thing that the more you think about it because He will say oh cut. It's all a joke. It's all an ax and so on But you get the impression that when he talks about trans okay, he's making jokes, but his opinions but he does think it's Bollocks things is bullets. Yeah, which I think most people do which you're allowed to think but that is a opinion to hold in celebrity world. Yes, absolutely. So yes He's joking, but he also does hold the opinion that if taken serious and he is serious about it I think he should be cancelled by their by their laws the real danger is to be influential So that's why Nick Fuentes is a villain That's where that other guy with the salt and pepper go tea isn't Nick influences people I I was pretty mainstream proud boys were on Fox News regularly. Yeah before 2018 And then things started getting gaining momentum on October 12th About two miles from here. I did a talk at the Metropolitan Club

where it was the it was a celebration of Otoya Yamaguchi And as someone who's visiting Japan a lot you'll know So he murdered the head of the socialist party after World War II socialism was gaining foot gaining hold Getting ground in Japan he stabbed him with the katana to death. What's the katana a little samurai sword Jesus it is school uniform. He was not fused. He was 18. It going into your chest. You must like Try to ignore it. You're like no, no, no, it's just a surface wound like quanti python. Yeah, but then you're like No, I definitely feel that Here and that's past my esophagus. Okay. Well, maybe it didn't hit anything You're talking yourself out of it is in the second and then yeah, and then blood comes out of your mouth and you're like I could be anything that could be maybe I've got cancer Yeah, maybe it's just coincidence. Yeah, then I've got a very rough esophagus right now You're like no, I'm fucking dying aren't I I'm fucking dying. I knew a guy The hell's angel who stabbed a man to death and he goes you push it in and you twist the knife

And he has this look where he goes. This is really happening isn't it and you look back at him and you go. Yeah, it's really happening That's the scary shit One time I was doing coke and he was doing mass and I go it's sort of like that time you killed two people And then he said yeah, I'd stop talking about that like it's nothing You did anyway you did the right drug off the two right of course. Yeah, have you done meth? Yeah Did you go with all like they go on the streets? Well, I'm a high quality person So you just get an insane amount of high quality Ideas and jokes and it's very fun for anyone around me for those two days Not that I've done it in years, but uh, they end up sort of cold and hangover is apocalyptic Like it is pain because you're drinking bottles of bourbon too. Yeah, and then that doesn't go nowhere That exists so the hangover that's it has a like a 99% recidivism right because the hangovers are unmanage

You gotta keep up the stuff, but that's something an investigative journalist should look into America's on meth Everyone south of the Mason Dixon line is on meth everyone up here is on Adderall legal meth It's basically the exact same drug But I was at a bar at like two in the morning in Abbeyville, South Carolina one of the nicest places on earth perfect southern town I look around I'm it. It's like 130. I'm ready to hit the hay boys and I look around What everyone's looking like golf ball ice wow middle class poor black white men women young old they're all fucking golf ball I'd and that bar was open all night So I saw a couple of them that I had met when I was you sure you won just on that rst They've got golf balls and then they started flying everywhere in the south can fly No, it's everywhere and you'll like watch cops or watch any of these police videos like in Florida They're high out of their minds because it's so hot. It's 110 degrees. You can't go out for like two months

What are you gonna do inside when and when you're too dumb to read 80 bucks? See I'm addicted to nasal spray And it's a nasal spray that that A lot of people addicted to it because once you stop using it then your nose will go Like for like a week like all drugs Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a rebound effect. So you you're just stuck on it forever And I can't been able to get off it a few times, but then once I'm off it I've just got a bit of a bad nose and I just I just spray it again. You know, it's a fun trick for traveling Put cocaine in your nasal spray and then you could go you could be playing blackjack in Vegas That'll spray doing coke at the table Wow, and you're not you have a really clear nose as well Unless you just use water with the coat, but I am In an entrance stone by the way you cut what we have an entrance stone somewhere We have an entrance stone. We have an unturned stone somewhere. What are you talking about? We were talking about something and then we moved on and I didn't finish it and I can't remember what it is Something about wanting to have sex with dead people And it was but the point being you can't get that nasal spray in the US because a key ingredient in it

I think soda-frede-different effect is used in the making of meth in the UK everyone's just on cats Yeah, they had that with The Coff drops I think it was and it was Whoever was doing it. It was just a minor tweak to make the meth untake out of all Right, but they refused to do it and and yeah, there's a great book about this called meth land The guy who this is very early vice. This is what vice was about. Yeah And I think it's the guy there's another book similar by the guy who did San Francisco And he's got a new book out about fentanyl That's really bad, but fentanyl is it's like fascism It's it rises up really high and then it crashes hard So I you don't hear about people dying of fentanyl anymore whereas two years ago was comedians and everyone but meth All of Florida all of New Mexico all of Arizona Are on meth right now? Wow And it's not a good it's not like you get smarter like with that or all at least you'll do your taxes

With meth you'll take apart every clock radio on the block and these people don't even have clock radios You've done well not to get hooked on it Yeah, I guess I don't know when I picked a personality like I got this thing. Yeah, that's mental For I went through a stop sign and I yeah, they told me to blow and I refused to blow Because you were high as rock no I just I may have been drunk. I don't know Yeah, too drunk to know sorry officer. I'm so drunk. I have no idea if I'm drunk. I figured I'd have worked it I can't eating it you're the maddest person I've ever interviewed I think you're actually number one. Who I could I've interviewed like a guy who cut his dick off? I interviewed animal from the Muppet Show that was K-Oss animal Yeah, the guy who plays the drums Yeah, it was rough but um I this checks my alcohol every half hour Okay, my sweat when I'm sleeping. I can't take it off for 90 days. So you can't have a drink for 90 days? No How are you finding that it's fine. It's boring

Once one guy came up to me in a bar. I was having my honeykin zeros and he goes They've got several point five percent. Oh You need ten to get a beer and yeah, okay, and and they haven't called me about it yet So it's working. Okay, but this guy comes up to me goes you know you can I know I have one of those two You know you can synthesize alcohol, right? And I go what do you mean? He goes full bumps a coke and some willy's social tonic Willie Nelson has a THC spirit out right now That has zero point zero zero zero zero And it's got THC in it But it makes you a little skittish So the cocaine turns you into a blabber mouth and it's allegedly the exact same buzz as booze We might get picked up by your uncle bracelet. No, it won't what this only picks up alcohol. I could shoot heroin all day And it won't register Hmm. Is that what you were doing? No, it's fine. That's why I was late today. Have you done the hammerman? Oh, yeah And not you didn't get hooked on that you you must have not oh no I don't even get getting the Nalgeos use for heroin is you what we all go to Jamaica and then

It's time to go and you're in the lobby with our suitcases and your one friend is like I'm staying guys And you're like what? I'm staying dude. I know it was fun. We're out of money the rainy season is upon us Uh, the resort's gonna be empty. It's not gonna be the same thing So I this is who I am and then he turns around and goes back to his cabin that he can't afford anymore Like why would you stay in Jamaica? I wrote a great song on heroin. Do you want to hear it? No, but gone it goes a little like this I thought it might be that Right, we had the rolling stones on yeah when we were doing it and I felt I go I don't feel too good I went to the bathroom I puked my gut said it makes you vomit. Oh, and I came back and I sit in my buddy Jesse I go dude. I feel like a million bucks like that bar for the best thing that ever happened to me In fact, I'm more me than me now. I'm like me dipped in me sauce. I got air conditioning in my brain

I go, you know what? Meanwhile, he's like this. Yeah, and I go ask like let's do a job interview You ask me questions and you're the job guy like you're the boss and you're asking me go go go go and he's like what? No And I go come on Ask me about working here. What can I bring to the company like I feel like I can nail it And he's like eventually goes after I've asked him like four times he goes All right, all right. Uh, do you want a fucking job? Well, I'm glad you asked where could people go and follow you in all that? censored.tv I can't tell you how many times People come up to me and they go hey, man. I'm a huge fan huge fan. Okay, so you must watch my show every day Now I don't know what you're talking about censored.tv is my show emerged with Anthony Kumia He had compound media. So we're compound censored now, but the URL is censored.tv It's 10 bucks a month, but there's tons of free stuff if you want to go check it out now And it's just a ribled wild time of fun comedic takes on what's going on in the world

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