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Ashley St. Clair, a former MAGA influencer, speaks to Joanna Coles about her extraordinary journey from rising conservative star to outspoken critic of the movement that made her famous. She reveals how coordinated messaging, dark money, and outrage-driven media shaped the MAGA ecosystem from the inside, reflects on her growing disillusionment with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point, and explains why she ultimately walked away. St. Clair also opens up about her relationship with Elon Musk, their child, the legal battle that followed, disturbing allegations about AI-generated sexual abuse material on X, and why she's headed to law school to take on the tech companies she believes have failed millions of women and children
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