Jimmy Kimmel’s 'Plumber' Joke Against DHS Sec. Sparks Backlash

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So glad you're with us for the Thursday edition of the Three Martini lunch and Jim we start

off with a double-fisted Martini when it comes to the fight over funding, Homeland Security,

one on the funding fight itself, and one as it relates to the new Secretary for Homeland

Security, former Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullet.

Let's take them one at a time.

Last night Pennsylvania Democratic Senator John Federman was on Hannity with Sean Hannity.

Federman is only, I think he's the only Democrat right now, voting to fully fund the Department

of Homeland Security. Democrats continue to filibuster the overall bill. We've seen the TSA

lines and so forth, but last night Sean Hannity asked him to expand on this.

And one of the fun things about Federman is is that even though he doesn't agree with us most of the

time, when he does disagree with his party, he not only disagrees, he blows up their narratives.

Listen, I mean, why do they want this shut down?

I truly don't know who's who's on first. I mean, I'll with a lot of this. It's just a fundamental

simple thing, just to acknowledge that this is gone. It should have never happened, but it's gone

way too long. We've all witnessed the kinds of chaos in our nation. Do the right thing.

Put the country ahead of the party. Now there's a huge rally. You know,

that another no-kings kinds of protests. So now it's it's also probably motivating some people in

my party that nothing might be afraid to reopen now because they are demanding these kinds of

extremes, you know, what they think is a solution that there was ever going to be a solution.

Never had any leverage to force any kinds of changes than ice or over-control funding

because of the big beautiful bill. Jim, we had no leverage and they're doing this because they're

scared of being called out at a no-kings rally or at the ballot box in a primary.

Yeah, I mean, one of the consequences of our intense era of polarization is that it makes it

impossible for somebody to compromise because that scene is selling out. That scene as, you know,

not being a fighter or something like that. My understanding is that this just this morning

every Democrat in the state of Pennsylvania is preparing a primary challenge against

Federman. I exaggerate slightly, but they are basically lining up like a TSA line. That's

how long the line and it just it's very interesting because as you pointed out, you look at

Federman's record. He's probably voting the Democratic position 85, 90, some percent of the time.

He's got some very high-profile divisions with the rest of his party. Sometimes on this,

sometimes on Israel. You and I like to point out how much he enjoyed pointing out the corruption

of Bob Menendez when most other Democrats wanted to overt their eye. But, you know, and he's also

said that wanting to enforce immigration law and wanting a secure border is not xenophobia.

That doesn't mean he's on board with everything ice is doing. That doesn't mean he's on board with

a lot of things that Trump administration is doing, but he does vote to confirm Mark Wayne Mullin

and he does think that this is a silly way to try to get leverage over ice policies. When ice

is already getting funded and everybody you're getting you're hurting through this policy

has nothing to do with the decisions that are being made at ICE. So good for you, John

Federman. I think probably endorsements from us will not help you in that Democrat primary, but

but isn't this fascinating to see where we are looking back at the Federman Oz debate and all

of this stuff where like there was a time when Democrats absolutely insisted the worst possible

thing could be that John Federman would not be in the Senate. No, that's exactly right. And I hope

the line is really long. I hope there's a lot of people who try to challenge him and that'll

frighten them. By that field, yes, the vote. I mean, I hope the Republican wins the seat, but

if there's got to be a Democrat holding that seat compared to what's probably going to challenge him,

Federman would be the guy. Dr. Oz, probably doing a better job than we expected over at Medicare

and Medicaid services. So maybe they maybe they do have the right jobs. I don't know, but anyway,

the second part of this is Mark Wayne Mullin just confirmed earlier this week, 5445.

And now because he has the name Mark Wayne and because of his professional background before

coming to Congress, Jimmy Kimmel has decided to sneer about this in terms of who our new secretaries.

Homeland Security, Mark Wayne, Chuck Mike, Bruce Dave Mullin, maybe Mullin's better. He is the

now former senator of Oklahoma. Before he was elected to the Senate, Mark Wayne Mullin was a low

level MMA fighter and a plumber. That's right. We have a plumber protecting us from terrorism now.

I worked for Super Mario. Why not, Mark Wayne? But honestly, I mean,

it's going to keep you unqualified people to run the department. Why not have more fun with,

I mean, next time instead of Mark Wayne, how about little Wayne for Homeland Security?

These things can get a concert out of it, right? Jim, it's just so mystifying how the left lost

the working class over the last few elections cycles here. And by the way, calling him a plumber

is definitely selling him short. He took over his family plumbing business in 1997 when it had

six employees. By July 2011, it had become Oklahoma's largest plumbing company and eventually opened

eight different businesses in a variety of different services. Plus, you know, he was in Congress

since 2013. So he worked up some experience in a lot of different areas, 13 years later to take

this job. So Jimmy Kimmel, I'm sure the, the, the left elites are enjoying that joke, but I don't

think middle America is liking it at all. Greg, Jimmy Kimmel is a garbage human being. We saw this

in his, the way he reacted during the Ted Cruz charity basketball game in which let's let the

record show Ted Cruz beat him better athlete. A lot of people funny look like Duke, but with some

other kid, the kid from Duke from a few years ago. But, you know, and it was all raising money for

charity. Usually when you participate in this, you try to smile and obviously, you know, people

were tuning in because Kimmel and Cruz said, you know, Kimmel had been making fun of Cruz for a

long time. There was a strange bitterness the entire time. It was very clear that Kimmel was

begrudging. I don't know if he expected he was going to beat Ted Cruz or what it was. Let it also

point out that when Brendan Carr, the chair of the FCC, started threatening Kimmel, who came to his

defense, Ted Cruz, because Ted Cruz is a principled human being who cares about what's right and wrong

and isn't always willing to follow his party or whoever's, you know, the administration if he

thinks that they're wrong. We saw this in the way Jimmy Kimmel handled the Charlie Kirk assassination

and his claim that the Trump, you know, I went back and I checked the exact wording of it and he

says, look, we hit some new lows over the weekend when the Maga gang desperately trying to characterize

this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they

can to score political points from it. Now, as we all know, this was not one of the Maga types who

killed him was somebody who was very active in trans political agenda and things like that.

And you had to pull teeth to get Kimmel to admit that he had done anything wrong in that one. And

now we have this third one. Now, I was going to ask how many plumbers watch Jimmy Kimmel's program,

but the short answer is probably not that many, just because not many people watch Jimmy Kimmel's

program. But the other thing is is that I was recognizing, you know, Jimmy Kimmel much like

many other late night shows, Stephen Colbert, et cetera, has basically become group therapy for

progressive left. So it's not a, maybe there aren't that many plumbers that are watching and that

would be offended by the insinuation that plumbers certainly could never have anything useful to

contribute to, you know, government there. They're lucky. We let them vote, you know,

these plumbers and type. But also Greg, how many times have we heard in pointing out that

Alexander Ocasio-Cortez used to be a bartender? Right. Now, yeah, I noticed like when Tom Delay

used to be an exterminator, everybody was soft. That was Ipsophacto evidence. Christina Montpour,

I remember we'd like to bring this up as evidence that he had no proper training, no proper

qualifications to weigh in on foreign policy. I don't see the same argument often made from our

friends on the left about AOC. And I also would point out that, no, no, we see that's a sign that

she's in touch with the working class. That's tough. Bill Friss, the former Tennessee Center,

he was a doctor. He was a surgeon. He like held people's pancreas in their hand or their be-

like Mola Ram, he could pull out your heart and show it to you, beating, you know, and then put

it back in. That's a very important part of that. I don't remember a ton of credit going to

Bill Friss for being a doctor. We've got Ron Paul, Rand Paul. Like, do you ever see,

I was like, well, you know, this this Republican lawmaker does have a career in this, you know,

field. Therefore, he is a more trusted authority. I'd never see that. But now I'll have a son

book if you're a plumber. Well, then it's Ipsophacto Valerius and I just want to observe

Tajimi Kimmel, formerly of the man's show, which was well known as an extraordinarily classy,

high-minded intellectual program really on par with William F. Buckley's firing line. And I say,

by the way, I love Adam Corolla. God bless him. But I'm sort of like for Jimmy Kimmel to look

down his nose at someone as not being serious enough. I don't think, well, if Jimmy Kimmel is,

I think listeners can tell that now. Yeah, I'm kidding, no kidding. First of all, late night's been

dead for a while. I was looking at the ratings a few weeks back and I think it was around the

Tallarico controversy with Stephen Colbert. And average night, they're between one and two million,

good night, maybe two million. Average Johnny Carson. And yes, it's more fragmented audience now.

11 million. 11 million. People want to be in a bigger country before they go to bed.

Like, there's a higher population. There's more people watching TV. So you really should, like,

yeah, there's more cable channels, YouTube, people watching different stuff. But yeah, it's a very

niche audience. And I suspect that niche audience does not include many plumbers.

No. And they're losing a gut failed who's cable, not project. So on many different nights.

Lastly, Tom Delay had a pretty good nickname, the hammer, the exterminator. He should just

should have gone with that. That would have a great nickname up on Capitol Hill. But

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this is kind of an evolving story. But the Wall Street Journal reporting earlier this week

that Iran has certain demands for potential negotiations. This is what it says. According to

the Wall Street Journal, citing informed sources, the IRGC is said to be demanding first that

Washington close all US bases in the Persian Gulf. Pay compensation for attacks on Iran, lift all

sanctions and guarantee non-aggression in the future. It also reportedly insists on retaining Iran's

missile program and seeks the right to charge commercial vessels for passage through the straits

of Hormuz. Similar to how Egypt charges for transit through the Suez Canal, additionally Iran

is said to demand that Israel halted strikes against Hezbollah in Lebanon. So, Jim, I was the

younger brother, the youngest of three and my middle brother and I used to tangle. I used to drive

him crazy and he used to pound on me. I wasn't exactly in a position while I was being pounded

on to make demands about how this was going to end. He usually dictated the terms. So I'm pretty

sure that Donald Trump's not going to pay much attention to this. My understanding Greg is that the

US State Department responded to that message with the seven page facts. The first page was just

giant letter F. I think you can see where the next six letters, six pages were going. We shouldn't

be surprised. This is, you know, the Iranian... Look, Iran calls us not merely a bad country,

not merely an adversary. We are the great Satan. Now, I'm sure a lot of Americans saying,

dang right, we're great. But they don't call us like, you know, the frustrating country. So

everything has to be done to the absolute. These are maximalist demands. As you point out,

they're really not in any position to make those demands. By the way, interesting that we've heard,

I've, we've heard this argument about President Trump lots of times that he often begins

negotiations with a maximalist demand way more than he actually wants expects to get or really

needs to get. And he comes down eventually and he gets walks away. I suppose this is conceivable

or this could be face saving. They need to convince their own public that they are winning the war.

They need to convince their own public. Never mind like everything's exploding all around them.

And the new Iatola hasn't been seen. The old Iatola is in the ground. They don't have a navy.

They don't have an Air Force. Things are blowing up left and right. And half the people, you know,

everybody who's surviving probably was a source for the Israelis. But Leo, you put all that together.

Like, there's a report in the Wall Street Journal today that the President thinks we are on

on schedule with the war. Remember, they'd said about five weeks, maybe a little bit more,

maybe a little bit less. He announced that the summit was Xi Jinping of China. He expects to go

forward on mid-May. They expect the military operations against Iran to be done by then.

That's something encouraging. But it also is a record that if Iran is willing to make

concessions, they're hiding it pretty well. This message would indicate we're nowhere near a

negotiated solution to the war. But then again, this is probably just for propaganda purposes and

door to convince anyone who's willing to be convinced that they're actually doing just fine and

that they're winning the war. The explosions happening all around would indicate otherwise.

Yeah, I'm sure there's some Democrats in media who think these are reasonable demands because

they keep trying to convince everyone that we're losing this war. Jim, we also found out that

apparently an Israeli air strike killed the guy who ordered the closure or at least the

restrictions on the Straits of Hormuz. And there's also reports we may have gotten no

confirmation yet, the head of the IRGC. Remember Iraq, we had the deck of cards? I think we'd be

onto at least our second, maybe our third deck by now. Yeah, my understanding, if you call

the Pentagon, the whole music is Queens, another one bites the dust. There's a more serious question

to this, which is that according to independent reporting, the US, so Trump said the negotiations

are going well. That's why he doesn't going to hit the power plants. The Iranians said we're not

negotiating. We didn't know what you're talking about. Independent reporting says that yes, there

are back channel communications going through the Egyptians in certain other countries. So it's

not direct talks, but basically messages are being passed back and forth. But interesting question

is, who are we negotiating with? Is this person in the IRGC? Is it a representative of the new

Ayatollah? Who, if that photo that's floating around in social media, is accurate? Looks like the

mummy. Credit where the Iranians, you know, if they don't, which we don't do in this podcast

very often, but they do have a leg to stand on. The bad news is it's just one, at least in the case

of the Ayatollah. Like there, who, you know, is it the more traditional Iranian military? My

understanding is that the IRGC, he kind of is integrated in both the regular military and the

rest of society, kind of like the SS and Nazi Germany. So who are we negotiating with? And whoever

we're negotiating with, do they actually have the power and the authority to keep any promises that

they make? Behind the scenes, some things must be going on in a fascinating way. Also,

there's an interesting question of each time we tell things through the Egyptians or some other

country. I wonder if things are going to get lost in translation or, you know, how accurately

are the wording of these messages going to be passed through? Are they being done written? Are

they being done electronically? Some day, the full story of this war and these negotiations

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All right, Jim, we've talked about Florida, Congresswoman Sheila Sherfillis,

McCormick, a couple of times. That's because she's been indicted. She has been charged by the

Justice Department of stealing more than $5 million in disaster relief funds to finance her

first congressional run in 2021 and also purchase some luxury items, including a large diamond ring.

She's also alleged to have participated in a straw donor scheme and conspired to file a false

federal tax return. It sounds like a wonderful human being. Well, not only is she facing the criminal

charges, the House Ethics Committee, unsurprisingly, has taken an interest in this.

And now, the ethics trial is about to begin that could result in her expulsion

from the House of Representatives. Now, she is mad about this process because she says that

the criminal proceedings need to conclude before the House can take it up because she really

can't talk about stuff. The criminal proceedings are over. And so, Jim, in a statement to Fox News,

she says she's, quote, deeply disappointed that the committee chose to proceed with a trial.

And she alleges that's a violation of a due process, right? And I assume the ethics committee is

saying, you're disappointed in us.

George Santos could not be reached for comment. He was expelled from Congress before he was sentenced

to 87 months, President Trump later pardoned him. Look, it's the House Ethics Committee,

not the House Convictive Crimes Committee. That's a fairly high bar to, you know,

and it exists because there is a, you know, what I thought was a near-universal belief that

you can do things that are technically legal, but that are not ethical. And that's what they owe.

So let's say hypothetically, you're a, you know, Congressman from Texas, say, and you

pressure one of your staffers into having an extra marital affair with you. And that staffer

eventually kills themselves, setting themselves on fire. I think we can say that the affair itself

is not breaking any law that I'm aware of, but it probably is highly unethical behavior.

And if you do something like that, that district can find somebody better to be represented by that.

So my attitude is, it's the House. These are House rules. This is not a matter of law, and they

can't expel anybody they want. Theoretically for any reason, but I think, you know, obviously the

reason is to find some sort of egregious ethical misbehavior. Certainly looks like we've got this.

Now, I will recognize that there's a complication. Let's say that they, the House Ethics Committee

punishes her in some way. And then she's later found, you know, not guilty of the charges.

Okay, I could say I'd be a complicated scenario, but come on. She did it.

She's innocent the way OJ was innocent, right? I mean, we kind, you know, so it's one of those things

where also she will have the opportunity to make her defense to the House Ethics Committee.

If there is exculpatory evidence, if there is evidence that points to her not doing this,

she could present this. And the House Ethics Committee say, oh, we're sorry, you have been falsely

accused. We will not take any action against you. She's not doing that. She's saying you don't have

the, you're not allowed to hold me culpable for any of my actions for violating the House rules

or ethical behavior until I'm convicted of a crime. Why do they have to wait around? What is the,

you know, what, what is the issue here? Because by the time you're convicted of a crime,

it's kind of late for the House Ethics Committee to step in. Well,

now, now we can get you. Now this, this is unacceptable. Also, like, they're taking her away

in handcuffs in jail. Like, that's, you know, that seemed kind of, I think the Santos precedent.

Like, a lot of people are very worried about that. I don't mind having, in addition to don't

break the law, don't behave unethically. That doesn't seem like a really unfair expectation of

members of Congress. Yeah. That's on Hawkeye and Jeffries too. I mean, because usually when

somebody gets in a whole heap of trouble, the leader is like, you need to go now. You need to

resign. I mean, just be gone. And he's not doing that. They're staying behind her and, you know,

no censures on people. And they always, they always rally behind the team. I guess that's a thing,

like, you know, what are you gained by protecting the slime balls on your team? Like, because the

thing is is that you're still stuck with the slime ball who, who hurts the party's image and

hurts everybody out. Like, is, does she throw really great parties? Like, what is the upside of

keeping her in Congress? You know, if she does, that's what it is. It's the most majority. We don't

want her out. And then we'd have a vacancy. I don't know. It's just, yeah. How, how about we get,

rid of all the slime balls? How does that sound? That sounds pretty good to me. And you'd think by

keeping them, it'd be harder to keep the seat. But anyway, they've got their own logic. All right.

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All right, Jim. Some people are describing this as a landmark ruling. I think we would call this

common sense. The Associated Press reporting transgender women athletes, meaning men, are now

excluded from women's events at the Olympics after the IOC agreed to a new eligibility policy

on Thursday, which aligns with President Donald Trump's executive order on sports ahead of the

2028 Summer Games in Los Angeles. Quote, eligibility for any female category event at the Olympic

Games or any other IOC event, including individual and team sports as now limited to biological females.

The International Olympic Committee says that will be determined by a mandatory gene test

conducted once in an athlete's career. So some are saying, oh, transgender athletes are banned.

No, no, no, no, you just have to compete in the right category.

I'm now thinking conducted once in an athlete's career. So it's kind of like, you can't say,

well, it's changed now. I don't know. Look, the International Olympic Committee,

arguably one of the most deeply corrupt institutions on earth, somehow has made the right decision.

And I think it's a fascinating demonstration. Was the Algeria, was the country of the boxer from

last time, that the sea change in cultural thinking on this, that this would not have happened

four years ago. Whether you want to tribute this to Trump's election, whether you want to

tribute this to, let's note, National's populist parties have been winning in a whole bunch of

different countries. Whether you want to argue that the trans athlete agenda has, or advocates have

gone so far that they have alienated people who might have once been more supportive. If you want

to say, this is the end of cancel the closure, but everyone is, this is a fascinating indicator

of which the direction things are going in. And look, you know, we have no idea how things are going

to go in the midterms as a good chance Republicans are going to feel set back. But for now,

there is a sense in this country that things are shifting to the right things went far too far to

the left on that, particularly on this issue. And the IOC is heating that. I wonder if this is

reflection of the fact that the next ones are in LA, right? In two years. So either way, you know,

don't blink kids. Good job, IOC. Yeah, I'm not going to say that too often, but you're right. I

think the images of that boxer pummeling women who are much smaller was an image that did not

reflect well on the IOC. And I think that was a big part of why they ended up with this decision

in addition to the fact that it's obviously the right decision. So Jim, tomorrow is Friday.

Looking forward to it. See you then. Can't wait, Greg. See you tomorrow.

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