Joe Rogan Experience _2542 - Steve Hilton

0:00Joe Rogan, one cast, check it out! The Joe Rogan, experience. Shrink my day, Joe Rogan! Park cast my night! All day! Come on, Daniel. What's going on? For people who don't know, you and I have been friends for... God, more than 10 years. Yeah, how many years has been? I think it's 14 years. I think it's the year we got here, which is 14, 2012. We met and why on the beach with our kids. Okay, so what's your memory? I was just thinking about that because I have a very particular memory of that. My memory was that my children and your children were playing on the beach. Exactly. That's how we met. It was just they were like digging and sand. They were real little. They were the same age. And then we just said, hi. Yeah, but I remember that... Okay, I have a slightly different memory. Okay, which is like... That's exactly right about their kids. Yeah. Two girls for you, two boys for me.

1:00And your wife was there first before... Yes. I think I was in the gym. And then I just remember... And I just remember... I just remember I've just moved from England. And it's a whole different world and a different culture. And I just remember you walking down the beach. I remember I've never seen anyone like this before. Just like it was just an amazing cultural moment. And then... You'd never seen anyone walk on the beach. No, just the way you were... You know, you're just the way... I remember thinking, who's this guy? I remember I'd never heard of you. And then I was explaining to our people, I said, Joe Rogan, you met Joe Rogan. It was just an amazing thing. And then the other thing that makes me laugh doing this is that we then did the podcast. Yes. And then I was like, you know, I was like, I was like, well, I'm just going to get my point around then. This is before you had any aspirations to run if a governor or anything like that.

2:03Exactly. It was a long time ago. I was just moving to... I was teaching at Stanford. Just having a very normal kind of low key life. And I really remember doing the podcast, not knowing what a podcast was. I literally didn't know. So we came in. And again, my experience was I'd been in England. Most recently, I'd been in politics and government. And so I didn't the media. I was aware of all of that. And so, you know, it wasn't like I was completely naive, but I didn't know what a podcast was. And I literally thought it was like a radio show or something. I remember coming in, this is back in LA, and we sat down. And we were chatting for a few minutes. And I literally was thinking, when's the next guest coming? Like, this seems to be going on a really long time. And it's like 10 minutes and then 15. Wow, this is a long time. Normally you get like 10, 15 minutes maximum. Right. Half an hour. What? An hour? Three hours!

3:03I couldn't believe it. Well, back then... I really didn't know. No one knew what a podcast was. So what year was it that Steve was on? Episode 509, 20 hours June, July 3rd of 2014. 2014? Yeah. Whoa. Okay. 2014 episode 509. 509, so we're already... 509? Yeah. 509. So we've had 2000 podcasts since then. Incredible. And... Wow. Twelve years. Twelve years ago. That's crazy. It's crazy. The other thing. Just remembering, you know, I'd never really done anything public. I was like a behind the scenes guy in politics and government. And I'd just come out of that. And I was very kind of cautious about everything. And you were just talking like you do. Which again, I didn't really know. And you... I remember thinking, oh, this is like... We're talking about sex and you were cursed.

4:03And I was like, wow. What is this? Like, this is so different to anything I've ever encountered before. But there we are. Yeah. Nobody was listening back then. It was nice. You could get away with so much more. You could just talk and not worry about it. And also social media was not as changeable. I don't think you worry about it when you're talking. No. Well, I don't pay attention. That's the key. That's the key to my success. Right. This is like, don't listen to anybody. What anybody has to say about you. Just keep moving. Yeah. Keep moving to don't pay attention. I think that's obviously works. Well, I think there's a lot of people out there that are crippled by other people's opinions. I think there's a genuine benefit to having a bunch of other people's opinions of you. And you get to see feedback. But there's just way too many bad faith actors on the internet. There's way too many people that have the least charitable takes on everybody. The worst, the worst, like, public narration, like public narratives.

5:07They want to promote about anyone or anything about any subject. There's far too many people like that. And it's a poison well. Yeah. It's like, if you went to a restaurant and you knew that 20% of their food would literally fucking kill you. Would you ever eat there? No. Well, that's like Twitter. Yeah. 20% of the people there are fucking poisonous. They're like a chorus name. It's so funny because like, I've just, you know, been, so when we met, I was just, you know, like kind of a regular citizen, a teaching at Stanford, whatever. Then I started a business. Then I got more public. I went to Fox hosted a show. Then I'm a candidate. And as that's happened, you get more prominent. And so you look at these comments. And I never know whether to look, but the thing that I really just makes me laugh now. Well, it's like, I'm always tempted to do it. And I never do it. Like the really idiotic, just pure abuse.

6:08Like, I don't know. Like, I do, I put something out there. And now there's a lot more of this. And my count is like, go back to England, you fucking cunt. Or you balled, whatever. And like, I always, I always want to write good point. It's just so tempting. And I never have. Maybe I should. Well, there's a lot of, because it just makes me laugh. There's a lot of sad angry people out there that are just lashing out. And unfortunately, those are overly represented online, because those are the type of people that have the time to make comments. But then you also have to take into consideration whenever you're involved in anything political, as you obviously are, because you're running for governor of California. There's a lot of the people that are engaging with your content that are not real people. They are you actually boss 100%. Okay, that pot. I never have in my mind. You don't? No, I should. I, I, it's a good point. Keep going. Oh, it's a tremendous amount. It's not a small amount. Right.

7:08It's a huge amount. There's a lot. There's nothing you do about it. It was point of attention when he was buying Twitter. So when he was buying Twitter, Twitter was alleging that there was only 5%. 5% of Twitter was boss. But see if you find that article again. There's a former FBI. God, he did something with digital intelligence. And he did a forensic analysis of Twitter. And he said it's probably 80%. 80. 80. 80. 80. So it's a bunch of bots yelling at you and buy bots. Okay. Some of them, I think now, and this is at the time. So this is 2022. When did he buy Twitter? 2023, 2024? 2024? I think I hold it. Is it 2024? I think I remember. I think it was like somewhere on 2324. Yeah. Okay. So back then, AI was not as much of an issue. Like AI's, you could automate anything now. So the claim that 80% of Twitter was originally from 2022 assessment by cybersecurity expert,

8:13Dan Woods, while official company filings have a story. Historically claim fake accounts represent under 5% independent estimates. And security specialists suggest real figures are higher. Those in exact 80% total remains heavily debated. It's very debated. But if you read the article, he goes over, it's very meticulous. Like the way he's describing what 80% is pulling it out of his ass. So what they did, what Twitter did to come up with 5% was they just grabbed a random 100 tweets. But also they're trying to sell it for fucking billions of dollars. They were selling it for, what was like 40 billion? Yeah. Something crazy, wasn't it? I don't remember the number. Wasn't it 40 billion dollars? Fucking insane amount of money for this. What is now just chaos, you know, it's funny. So there's that. And so this guy's saying 80%. So again, this is a few years ago. So you're dealing with actual humans who are doing it.

9:14So you have these state sponsored groups that are, there's these bot farms. And what these bot farms are, I don't know if you've ever seen them. But people have gone inside and filmed them. Like whistleblowers. What they literally have is like rows and rows of Android phones that are all connected to like... Which phones without people? Yes. And they'll type one thing. And that one thing gets tweeted by hundreds and hundreds of phones. And there's many of these places. And this was back before you could get AI to automate things for you. Yeah. Now that you could do a thing where you can essentially start a campaign online. Like say, Steve Hilton's a cut. Pass it on. And literally they will... You could hire a company. And this company has bots that will go out there and promote that Steve Hilton is a cut.

10:15And they will put it everywhere. They'll hire people. They'll pay... This is another thing. There's a bunch of like really bad actors, really bad faith actors on Twitter that are paid to post things. And these people have been called out many times by other people that are independent journalists that say, Isn't it crazy that all these people use the same purpose at the same time? Yeah. Exactly. They're getting paid quite a bit of money. Israel pays people. They've been pretty open about it. And they were saying that we have to win the digital war against what they call the woke Reich, which is hilarious. So there's that. So you have to like when you're engaged, like I know real people on Twitter. I know real people that I read their posts and I know there's real independent journalists. But there's a tremendous amount of just utter horse shit. Yeah. I don't have time. I have no time for our work. I mean, I look at it. So because you know, you're running around, you're doing all these things for the campaign, whatever. So I don't have too much time.

11:15It's the one I look at. But there's all the other, you know, there's Instagram and all the rest. Yeah. And I don't even look at those. But well, next, you know, for a few hours, you know, if you add it up probably half an hour. The morning, maybe half an hour in the middle of the day, half an hour at the end of the day, you look at it then. And you just find out what's going. I think it's pretty good for news. It's very happening. It's the best thing in my world for news. So that's why I check in with you. Yeah. You kind of see what's happening. I do that. I go to the front page, like what's going on? What are the, what are the news stories? Yeah. But as soon as it gets to people's opinions, I'm saying, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's not happening. I do think it's fun. Honestly, the abuse stuff. It just makes me laugh. I think it's so kind of, that's good. Well, you've always been really good digitally. Like for people that don't know, like I said, Steve and I have known each other for a long time. I mean, we're good friends. Like we've taken our family's testimony. Act Disney Land. Yeah. Like we've slept over each other's homes. This is again, way before you were running for governor. I know you. And you know me. And you know my family.

12:15We know each other. And you've always had no phone. You were always impossible to reach. I used to have to get a hold of your wife. You could hold of you. That's exactly what it's like. It was hilarious. For a while, I don't even know if you've had a fucking email for a while. I didn't have email. I always had email. Yeah. But you never had anything on you to check that email. So like, exactly. That's right. One time in San Diego where you always said, it's fine. Nothing ever goes wrong. Are you going to know what? Find a way wrong your wife is so mad at you. You can't get a hold of you. You fucking bad. But this was the thing is like you were well aware that it is a toxic element in your life. And it's distracting. It keeps you from being present. It keeps you from being in the moment. And it's very hard to have discipline and just put it down. And I'm really good at it. But then I'm not. Yeah. Some days I'm not. I just find myself on the toilet for 20 minutes watching murder videos. Because my Instagram. It's actually really good right now. Well, actually, what do you mean like true crime stuff?

13:16Oh, horrible things. So one of my best friends, Tom Segura. He and I have had this tradition over the last few years of sending each other the worst fucking shit that we find online. To each other just to freak each other out first thing in the morning. Like first the morning I wake up and Tom sent me like the other day I sent him these two guys were trying to rob an ATM machine. And the guy's pulling on it and they wrapped a chain around it and they had a car. Sounds like a move that was pulling. So the car was pulling the ATM machine out and the guy got trapped under it and dragged with sparks and blood. I mean, it's fucking horrific. And I mean, I've seen so many people get executed hundreds. Instagram is terrible at removing that stuff. I don't know if I spend far less time on X because X is so much opinions. It's so much of it is just text.

14:16Instagram, for me, it's a lot of it is very interesting. Like I find interesting historical facts, interesting scientific discoveries, cool stuff. It seems to be just generally when I'm around, you know, I'm on planes a lot. And like all the time and you see people. So just and it's just watching people. Instagram seems to be the thing, you know, I'm not watching what they're looking at. You can see the logo and you can see that seems to be what people are most consuming. Yes. I think it's probably the biggest one that maybe TikTok's probably the biggest. Yeah, and TikTok. I don't know what's the biggest, but they're all they're both pretty big and it's it's just mindless. TikTok's probably younger. Yeah, I think, but there's a lot of older people on TikTok too now. It's just very addictive. TikTok, when you open it up, it immediately starts playing you something. Yeah, that's different. You know, like Instagram, it opens the page and you go, so what's going on? And you have to like put in a little effort. TikTok's like, gotcha. Immediately as soon as you open up the app, it's like, gotcha.

15:16Here's another one. Here's another one. Next thing you know, an hour's gone by and you've wasted it. I remember what I first read about it like years ago. TikTok. I think he maybe even wasn't cool TikTok. His bike dance were doing it and it was music video. There's something to do and that's how it started. It started with you could make your own video to music or something to the music was the focus. Well, the original TikTok was a bunch of people dancing. Yeah, they were like, TikTok to do with. Exactly. Yeah, they were dancing and lip syncing. And I remember reading and they were talking about how viral it's gotten and this thing is going to take over. So I thought, oh yeah, that can't be. That's not going to happen. And then I look where we are. Amazing. Well, what's really interesting is China where TikTok originated, they have a completely different TikTok. Their TikTok is curated to like martial arts demonstrations, scientific discoveries. It's all athletes. It's all athletes doing music. Yeah, exactly. It's all like in rich and you can do that.

16:17Yeah, and kids aren't even allowed on it after 10 p.m. So like you have to put in your age when you do it at 10 p.m. it breaks you. Go to work, bitch. Go to sleep. Get up in the morning and now now TikTok does that. I can't remember. I've read that. The Chinese version of TikTok. So the Chinese government makes them do that. Yeah, they're smart. Like it's not good to censor people, but if you want to have a society that's not captured by horseshit, that's the way to do it. So I remember back. So I'm Hungarian. My parents are Hungarian. I mean, I was a kid. I was born in England, but would go back to Hungary. And this thing I always remember being really pissed off about when I was a kid. Not that the TV was before anything. It was just TV. It's all you had was television. But on Mondays in Hungary, there was no television because they wanted people to do other stuff. Just on Monday? Yeah, it was something. And maybe I'm getting this right. And it was like, go out, talk to each other, do stuff, sports, whatever. And it was communist regime, so they can do whatever they want.

17:19Right. But you think, you know, they were thinking. I prefer freedom. But. Well, that's what I think all about all of this is so hard. Like even when you look at, like just today, there's this massive trial, this matter trial going on. What's going on? It's a lawsuit. Today's the first day of the trial. What is the trial about? There's suing matter for $1.4 trillion. Trillion. Trillion, trillion with a T. Whoa. I mean, they're not going to get that, but that's the claim. It was just today. Clans that addicted children to social media. Yeah. And they're doing this through lawsuits. And I'm just so torn over this because I've got a very strong point of view about all of this and kids. Yes. But there's something about this that doesn't feel right in terms of just going after these big platforms. Because in the end, I think it's the phones. It's the, there'll be something else if it's not matter. It'll be another thing. Yes. I mean, I wrote about this year 2015.

18:20So soon after we did that show, I was probably working at the time. I had a book called, I published a book called More Human, Designing a World Where People Come First. And the kind of main thing in the book was everything's too big and bureaucratic and centralizing. We've got to get back to the human scale. So it's mainly about other kinds of policy areas, but I did write about this thing in kids and tech. And I said at the time, we, you know, kids under 16, I said then, shouldn't have smartphones. You can give them other phones to stay in touch, but smartphones bad idea is the screens. And so I see all this going on. And I think, yeah, have a go at matter or whatever, what's up or YouTube, I think they're coming for as well. They're coming for YouTube. That's interesting. Yeah, they are. There's already been a couple. And this episode is brought to you by Blue Choo. Man, let's talk about Blue Choo. They're already the number one brand for better sex. But what they're doing with Blue Choo Gold is completely next level. Gold is a four in one formula designed to make your bedroom noisy again.

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20:24That's what I think. And then if they are coming after YouTube, then they're kind of come after me. Right? Because like I'm making people addicted to listening to people talk. Exactly. How you going to say that that's bad? The four states seek substantial financial penalties reports differ on the precise figure with recent reporting is describing the state's position as roughly 200 billion while men have cited a possible exposure as high as 1.4 trillion, the ultimate penalty if metal loses would be determined by the court. They also want court order changes to Facebook and Instagram potentially including parental verification for teen accounts changes to recommendation algorithms characterizes dopamine manipulating removing or limiting like counts. Infinite scroll auto play appearance altering filters multiple accounts and disappearing content such as stories. What people love that. I know. So that's on a really mic for a man. Yeah, but disappearing content such as stories is kind of interesting sometimes like my friend Adam Greentree. Yeah, he's a bow hunter and he goes hunting and he's his Instagram stories like depict each day of these hunts.

21:37And it's really fascinating because he takes these crazy adventures where he goes deep into the Colorado Rockies by himself for like 28 days. And he's like camping out in the snow and it's cool. It's cool to watch. So it's not all negative. So our AI sponsored perplexity who is we pulled this information from is saying that a loss could mean not only a very large financial judgment, but also mandated product redesigns affecting how miners and potentially all users experience Instagram and Facebook. See, the problem is as soon as the government gets involved in mandating product redesigns. Yes, we're fucked because they're not going to make it good for us. I totally agree. There's not a chance in hell. Yeah, it's just manipulating. It's it's they're getting involved and they'll probably get them to give them some money. And then when you start getting it and you could just imagine these bureaucrats sitting around microman I mean, they go too much of that already. 100%. Yeah, one of the things that we get it's a problem, but this isn't the way to go. No, no, you know, there's a relaunch of my space that is really yes.

22:46And so my space is apparently attempting to relaunch and be algorithm free. And this is their idea. They're thinking the algorithms are designed to keep you engaged and get you dependent and get you hooked. And they're doing it by making your outrage for the most part, right? And what they want to say is look, why don't you just find what you want to find and we'll have it on here. Okay, which is probably a lot better. Yeah, because you know, my feed would be all things only than I'm interested in. Not things that piss me off. Well, that was the big change they made to the newsfeed versus what you were doing. And incredibly conf, incredibly like potent in its impact on children in particular. And me, the child, I'm a little kid. I fucking I get to get hooked. We all get hooked. You get hooked on nonsense and just paying attention to stupid things. And it just eats time. And that's what is that's the commodity. The commodity is your attention. Yeah, exactly. But you've got with I hear actually all the time.

23:47It's not discussed like a political issue like we talk about gas prices, whatever. But then I've done a lot of events last. Whatever, you're in a half like really a lot thousands and thousands of people sometimes big events small round tables. You hear a lot of people. And they. The first set of things they talked you about what you might because they think you're a candidate. This is politics. Let's talk about taxes and gas prices and the kinds of things that you think they think you know sort of assumed to be part of the political conversation. But then when you raise something like that, like the kids and the screens, they're totally changes the conversation. And suddenly they're like intense and kind of really kind of angry in a totally different way. And what what it's like, what are we supposed to do? It's it's like for parents, it's like with with the screens and the social media and then the video games announced AI and they're talking to AI and then that AI is doing the homework.

24:47Like what are we supposed to do? I'm glad you brought up video games because video games are far more addictive than social media. Yes, video games are insanely addictive and no one's trying to get rid of that. It's because these things can change the way people think. They can change public opinion and they can move people in certain directions. I attribute it to the rise of you know the democratic socialists. I attribute it to the rise. I mean it's a lot of this manipulation. These ideas like people are really getting maybe being socialist school. Like this is all coming out of social media. 100%. It's not natural that people are sitting around you know reading marks and going what a great idea. Like let's implement this. They're not doing that. Very few of these quote unquote Marxists that you find on social media are even aware of the consequences. The historical consequences of these strategies and what it ultimately leads to which is like checkers. It's like real simple. Like you're going to have a military that controls everything you do.

25:51As soon as you give up everything to the state. Well the state has the guns and you have nothing. And then they tell you what to do. It sucks. It doesn't mean that that's the way to do it because capitalism is brutal. Capitalism needs some fucking guardrails. For sure everything needs to be but you've got like no I totally like I always joke about it but it's kind of true. Is like Mamdani with the state run grocery stores like we had that when I was a kid I literally went to them in hungry. It was a communist state. There was only state run grocery stores. I saw them. There's one light at the end of the block where my grandma lived. And I would go there in the morning to get the whatever it was. And it's just terrible. Like it's really I'm very torn on social safety nets. I think we should have them because I think a person who's down on their lock where things go wrong like a woman who has children and her husband dies. And she doesn't have an income. And now oh my god I have to feed these children. Yeah we should have social safety nets.

26:51I also think social safety nets encourage people to rely on them and have zero ambition. I think both those things are true. Well that's why I'm so I've always been against I can see the argument for but I've always been against this universal basic income type thing. There's an argument for it where it's like quite a low level and there that's the original guy that I think these target for that was on the right Milton Friedman. Yes. And Charles Murray I think also argued for coming from the right but their version of it was to replace everything else. So you wouldn't have any other benefits. You wouldn't have any other government services. Right. No Medicaid. No nothing. Just an amount of money. Uh-huh. Based on this very simple last bureaucratic and that's it. But this is not what's being argued. No. I think that would actually probably be like financially more efficient because you would radically reduce the amount of government. Exactly. In the bureaucracies. Yes. Radically reduce the amount of people that have control over other people. Exactly. You would say listen we're going to cut out the middle man and just give the money to people. Yes. Yes. That's not a bad idea.

27:56So I had to I go and it was very funny in that like you say these things before you ever imagine being a candidate and they come back and and it gets sort of twisted. Part of the problem with welfare is and this is going to sound completely like I'm contradicting myself but it's not enough money. It barely live. But this is what I was exactly what I was saying. So I was in that book. I think in that book the 2015 book, more human. I had this idea based on what you're talking about which is actually for a lot of people things like the minimum wage for example is just you can't live on it. Especially like in California now. Right. But in a lot of places it's so low you the cost is so high. I can't live on it and there's a lot of people working really hard like not lazy on the couch playing video seriously hard working people often to jobs who can't live on what they make. It's like really wrong I think if it works so hard you should be able to live on it. So I had this idea which was the business friendly living wage and the idea was you increase the minimum wage to a living wage which is calculated.

29:02What do you think that would be? Well in Cal it's by area it's different everywhere. You know in California a lot of places are being incredibly high you know 34 you know a lot of really high level. Well because you've got now in certain counties in California more than I think it goes up the whole time the official government level for low income is $100,000 a year. Low income in that crazy crazy because cost when I was a kid if you made a hundred thousand bucks you are killing it. I know I can make a hundred grand like whoa okay so when I in my in my campaign I had this one of my first things was no state income tax under 100 grand. I got the working class tax lot of people nationally said that's so high why you rewarding rich people actually the feedback we got in the primary was that's too low. And there's a ton of people in California make out 120 that sort of thing you can barely live because everything so expensive you're in LA or somewhere expensive so we've raised it to 150 tax free but going back to the living wage thing that's obviously really tough for a business to pay that that kind of level.

30:11I used to run by around a restaurant you know you'd be killed by that kind of high thing but at the same time as you've got businesses paying people for full time work that they can't live on. The businesses are also paying taxes pay roll tax all this stuff they're paying to the government and then the government is taking it and handing it back to the workers in benefits and welfare. So my thing was why don't you just cut out the middleman and have the businesses pay the workers not the government and then the net effect for businesses about the same well that would be the goal. So they're paying their workers more. Is it the same amount like are they litter that doesn't make any sense because like what is minimum wage in California right now. Well it's just it's just gone up it depends what where you're looking so so $15 no $16 and a bit and then for fast food it's 20 and they wanted it for. That was a recent thing right and a lot of people push back against that and they wound up they wound up cutting a lot of jobs.

31:12Yeah that went through so there's $20 for fast food work and then immediately cut a bunch of jobs. Exactly and put in automation and I feel like there's got to be some jobs that are entry level jobs for kids. Yes and that's really important. They used to be supposed to make a living off of that. Yes you first said that's learning how to work you show up on time you know you get your paycheck you realize the taxes get cut out of it you're like what? Exactly you all that stuff like it's good for kids to have but once you get past entry level jobs then okay like if someone's a landscaper or someone's like doing this is a job you work 40 hours a week. Pane someone $15 an hour to work 40 hours a week is kind of brutal. Yeah that's what I'm saying. It's horrible. Exactly. You barely can get by but the part because we've built all of this bureaucracy. Certainly in California all I really know is California and just the level of the government in all its forms is so big you're paying all these taxes and the taxes are coming out in all these hidden ways.

32:16Gas taxes housing taxes that they don't call a housing tax but it's that every way you look they've got these things that they're charging you. But it was makes everything more expensive and what what do you get for it this bloated bureaucratic government that's not actually helping it is actually making it harder to run a business harder to build anything. And so I think that's and this is the I used to call it this doom loop that the Democrats who in charge even they they get it right they get the people are really struggling people can't afford stuff so what's their response. Oh we got to you know make give them more welfare benefit we got to take put taxes up in order to get more money to redistribute but that just makes everything more expensive they never think about well why don't we just cut the costs. Why don't we just reduce the amount that we're taking so that people can have more. Yeah but then they would have to cut out their slush fund because that's really what it is it's a big ass big ass slush fund.

33:16One of the things that we pointed out was that the number of people that moving to California and even living in California it shrank but government doubled. Yes it's there's so many insane facts like that. Right well they say oh we've created so many jobs like really have you have you really created an actual job or have you figured out another way to increase the government and make more tax. It's exactly. NGO you have or nonprofit you have or like someone pointed out that there's a sky it's got these really funny reels on Instagram and how much things cost versus like what you could get for and you know he was talking about like some new thing they're doing for the convention center. It's like a five billion dollar renovation and he was like listing all the different things and one of them that you could give like every single person on on skid row some fucking preposterous amount of money and it's you just realize like oh they don't want to fix any of this like the people that are working for the homeless he was talking about the average salary was like 800 thousand dollars.

34:30There was just one last week this woman runs a homeless nonprofit 1.6 million dollar salary. Who does not profit non-profit exactly that's what he's killing it exactly there's another one millionaire. There's another one yesterday he's like I don't know some business like it's again it's a nonprofit 2.6 million. You know it's just and here's the most important thing the homelessness only got worse like if the private sector imagine if you were a CEO of a company that was just losing insane amounts of money. And never completing its tasks never doing this set up to do this is the main thing I think it's like the more I look at it the more insane it is and everyone just looks at it and no one's ever pointed this stuff out like they all just the government just makes everything so expensive in California. Everyone says oh it's so expensive what are we going to do we'd better give them more welfare benefits because we better have a billionaire wealth tax really want our wealth tax. There's just the money from the most the richest people without addressing fraud and waste at all but by the way the richest people already pay about half the income tax the top 1%.

35:40Yes so it's a small number of people in California alone that are responsible for an extraordinary amount of the tax base. Yeah just a very small number of people and you're scaring them away and if you just they don't have that mentality of cutting costs like it was normal business yet paid no matter what. This is what I said during COVID I said I think the mayor should get paid dependent upon the GDP of the city. Yeah so like if the city like if you lose 70% of the restaurants which like Los Angeles did during Garcetti should have lost 70% of his paycheck. You should if you lose like 70% of businesses. You should lose 70% of your income and I guarantee you they would be more friendly to business if that happened. But this is exactly and they don't care and this is what happens. I think when you've got this one party rule thing that's been going over so it's 16 years now they've run everything.

36:41They don't care because they think they'll be in power forever and it just doesn't matter. And it seems like they will look what they did the Spencer Pratt. I know it's crazy. But they did a Spencer Pratt was so transparent that even Democrats admit there's something weird about the fact that Nithya Rahman all the sudden got way more votes than Karen Bass. Way in the in the mail ends and people voted for an increase in taxes. I know it's just that doesn't make any sense. Nobody votes for an increase in taxes. And actually in recent years in California anything like that has been voted down. Right. And just in the last few years. It was only the mail in ballots that turned it. Well, they this is the I would say. I was like in dirty people. Well, people bring it up the whole time and I say, yeah, whatever. This is that it's they've made it legal. Right. This is not illegal. And the scam is so about we've looked into a few of these.

37:41We were just you know through the year we've been looking we're following some this money. It's just everywhere you look. So cannabis right they legalize cannabis prop 64 in California. And there's a tax and the tax is a part of selling it to the public was we're going to have the tax and it's going to pay for substance substance abuse prevention. It's not nice. Yeah. So then they so we looked into it 350 million dollars of that goes to this nonprofit. Which would some nice sounding name about health. And then you actually track the money they give out these little grants million each million here 750,000 there to 500 or so other nonprofits. And then you look at what they do. Voter registration ballot harvesting all of this. I mean, this is what they do stealing money and it's and we're paying for it. And there's so many example we've just found a few of them. I mean, remember they've doubled the budget of California more than double in the last 10 years leads the numbers.

38:42This year the budget is just over 350 billion the total budget 10 years ago it was 170 and everything's worse. Crazy. It's so bad. There's my other favorite example is that I mean there's so many. I just every day you learn about these crazy things. The prisons right they've been shutting the prisons which I totally disagree with because whatever that's a different story. But in the time they they basically cut the prison population is not quite half but nearly the budget has doubled. Well, I mean what is so transparent like look what they did in Los Angeles with the fire relief money. Yes, yeah, fire rate that was disgusting. So disgusting. You had people good-hearted people wanting to help their own money that's supposed to be charity. Yes. And it's going into this political slosh. It went all of it into nonprofits. Yeah. And not just one nonprofit like 200 different non-profits.

39:45Exactly. Spencer Pratt laid it all out like how they do. And no money went to anybody who lost their home. None. And which is should be illegal. They've legalized all of this. That's the point. And so I always say, yeah, we've got this system. But there's only one answer in advance of being able to get in power and do something about it is we just got to get every vote. We've got to get every vote. And I know I people look at this race and say well you're never going to wear and it's hopeless. I don't think that's true. I think that actually people are really pissed off. If you give them a sense that we can really this is not a hopeless cause. And I think we're showing that we've just got to I mean his lit I've got this guy running against me. He's just a complete joke. I mean he's who is it? He's called Havier Bacerra. He was Biden's health secretary. He was I mean, I want to say one thing before I'd say the most important thing about him. But since we've been just been having a go at him telling the truth about what he did as Biden's health secretary.

40:47His score was been coming down with not that much effort from us and we want to have money. We're a scrappy startup, right? They've got this big machine, the government unions, they just you know roll on. He's like the first poll that came out in the race was just off the primary. It looks it's over. What's the point? You know 61 36. He had 61. I had 36. The next one is like 55. This is just the other week 55. I think I had 37. There's one we just heard about where the gaps under 10%. So no one wants this to go on in California. There's a majority who want to get rid of this. But it's just been this sense that it's impossible. And we just have to have put up with it or leave. And I think we got it. If we change that attitude, I think people are going to vote this this regime out. It's so bad. Anyway, we've seen the map, the electoral map that they put out from 2020 versus 2024.

41:50And the difference being you look at all the counties that went red. Yeah, that used to be blue where people are freaked out. The problem is these high population urban areas where people live in these liberal bubbles, which is Los Angeles is the craziest version of that. Los Angeles County is 23% of the vote in the world of California. Let's put this into perplexity. As perplexity, how many people in Los Angeles are on SSRIs? Okay. I didn't think that's where you were going. I would like to know. Okay. Well, I think there's a lot of people that are, they're medicated. And it's part of what helps them agree to this nonsense. Is that they're in this zombie, catatonic state from antidepressants and antipsychotics and antivisive. Antivisive antivisive antivisive antivisive anti-dive and anxiety medication, and they're fucking cloudy. They don't see things and they're surrounded by this echo chamber of people that only agree with them.

42:51No reliable public count of current SSRI users, specifically in Los Angeles, but a reasonable rough estimate for Los Angeles County is on the order of 500,000 to 700,000 adults, not a precise head count. Now, how many people are in Los Angeles? There's 10 million in the count. Okay. I think that's way low. I think that's way low. I bet it's 10 times that. I bet it's everyone. I think no. No, all bulls should decide. I bet there's a few million. Los Angeles County has roughly 7.88 million adults. What's the problem? If about 11 to 17% take antidepressants roughly 60 to 70% of antidepressant users take an SSRI, the implied range is 530 to 950. So maybe a million. I think it's probably a few million. I know a lot of people that are on a man. I think it's like more represented in Los Angeles. There's also this idea that you need a medication because you have an imbalance.

43:51You need medication. It's over-medicated. It's really bad. Well, also the intelligence thing has been disproven. It's not real. It's not what it is. And then there's also there's a reality of your physical being. If you will live a sedentary lifestyle, you eat terrible food. Your physical body is going to feel like shit. And you're not going to be happy. That's just how it works as a human being. It's totally right. That's it. It's like if you're feeling down or pissed off like literally do some exercise. My friend is Anamond who's a, you'll see him tonight at the Mother Ship Polaris Committee. And he has a great bit about like the people that are in these commercials that are playing basketball. They take the medication and another playing basketball and drink and water and having fun. He goes, yeah, that's the actual solution to depression. It's not taking that depression. Yeah, that depression. It's fucking do something athletic. Yes. Get active. Drill water. Drill water. Have a community that you enjoy hanging out with. Like that's what keeps people from being depressed. Exactly. And they've been sold as bill of goods that you have a chemical imbalance in your brain.

44:52Well, that, that narrative was never supported by science and has now been completely dismissed. Yeah. That's not true. But we're just doing it still. I mean, finally enough, that was what I, I, I, I, one of the chapters in that book, 2015, but more human was about health. And it was all that. That's what I wrote about, which is this is crazy. We've got an amp fat when I was in 10 Downing Street, you, you know, you, I was, that senior advisor of the Prime Minister and you're getting, mainly I focused on domestic policy. That's why I focused on. And you're there. You're at, you know, in 10 Downing Street, you get meeting, you can have meetings with kind of everyone will come in and have a meeting. And I was really focused. You got the National Health Service, which is what the left want here, the Medicare for the single-payer health care, whatever. That's what there is in the UK. And it's funded by the government by taxpayers, 100%. And so it's part of the budget, which is one of the problems. It's always competing for money against everything else. And so there's a real reason to try and get the cost down

45:56because you're funding it out of the budget for everything else. And so health promotion is, or should be a really big part of it. And I wanted to really do much more on that, that you should actually use the National Health Service to try and make people healthy instead of all this sickness stuff. So I had all these meetings trying to understand, you know, the Royal College of this, the Royal College of that, all the cancer people, all they all came in. It was so hilarious after kind of months of these meetings. Of like, what do we need to do to make people healthy? It's the simple basic things in the end. What you just said, is that diet? Nutrition, nutrition, exactly. Yeah. The healthy, take that size, sleep enough, moderate water. Exactly. Yeah. All of those things. Like all these geniuses of science and whatever. Honestly, it's so basic. But then, I was just seeing today, there's this awful story about the mother who killed the children. A awful story, the mother, and she had really bad depression after the postpartum depression and was asking for help and all this.

47:05And they just kept giving her this medication. And she was saying, I think there are texts to her mother saying, this new medication they've got me on is really making me feel even more anxiety. I don't know what's going on, help, help, help. And they showed all the medication she was on in the run up to this. It's shocking. Like, so shocking, just the amount of stuff they're loading her up with that must have sent her over the edge of this. 100% I mean, livable. When you look at the commercials for these things, and then you see this possible side effects. In their right mind, it would take something for depression, which has side effects, which causes suicidal ideation. What? I thought you were enduring depression. Your side effect is I might want to kill myself. This is a cure for depression too. Blow your brains out. No more depression. Yeah. Like, it's a cartel.

48:07It's a cartel in the United States. I mean, it is a sanctioned tax. It's a publicly traded. It's a fucking cartel. And they buy off politicians and they pass the regulations. Well, the thing I see not just on this, but on on everything. Again, it's just an eye out. No, I kind of suspected it. But when you see just how cynical it is, this kind of corrupt, I don't know what you want to call, you know, machine politics, this, I don't know, in Sacramento, where they literally buy what they want. They buy the legislators that pass the bills that help their interest, whatever it is. Yeah. And that's why nothing really changes. No one knows what's going on. No one follows it. There's all these laws they pass that end up with things happening in the real world that normal person would say, how the fuck did that happen? Exactly. Well, that's, you know, three years ago, someone put in a bill that was probably written by the lobbyist for whoever it was.

49:14Even the legislator who put their name on it probably never read it. And then suddenly it's the law and all these bad things happen. And that's what's going on. Now, what could you do differently if you get an office like how much of this crazy and tangled machine can you unwind? No, let's imagine. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, people wake up, they go, Steve Hilton's making a lot of sense. Let's vote them in. And then even the liberals like see it really run out and vote you in. It's got to be too big to rig. Does that's the thing? Yes, because the mail-in ballots. By the way, can you, can you believe, and I will get into it, but did you see Kamala Harris the other day? No, she was at some conference or whatever doing her sort of maybe I'll run for president again. Yeah, good luck. I know. The last one was pretty successful for all. I'm spending 1.4 billion hours. I know. She's very, she lost every single swing state. She's very funny. I sort of talk about a lot because my guy, Paseira, he was asked the same question that she was asked.

50:19Remember when she went on the view, right, right, and it was like, what would you do for? She's, oh, nothing comes to mind. Really? You haven't thought so he was asked, but Sarah, Mike opponent and the guy who's on CNN, the guy says, look, it's obvious things aren't going well to be further seen. And the interview said, look, we got the highest. I can't be listed a few of the things. Highest unemployment rate in America, which by the way, no one can believe it. We have the highest unemployment rate of all 50 states. Highest poverty rate, cost of living's a nightmare. You know, what would you have done differently? He says, well, it can't be that bad because people are still coming to Disneyland and the beaches. That's what he said. And then he says, well, so no policy changes. No. Anyway, Carmela was at this thing the other day. And she starts talking about the election and how, and I don't know if she wasn't aware that Trump and Maga had this slogan that was a massive part of their thing too big to drink.

51:27So she starts saying it as if it was a completely new thing. She said it the other day. You know, the thing that we have to do is make sure we get a really, you know, we've got to get everywhere. Well, you know, to call in the phrase, we have to make it too big to rig. Like she said it. No way. She said it. No way. And then she's alleging that it was rigged the last time. I have no idea what she's talking about. Like I don't know what amount of election fraud there is, but it's not zero. It's not zero. It's never been zero. And the real weird one for me was how many more votes Biden got in 2020 than any other president ever. We have a lot of work to do because you know, these folks are cheating. They're trying to rig the system. They're trying to draw maps all of it. What you mean stuff that the Democrats are pretty dark. It's so hilarious. It's crazy. We have to make it too big to rig. We have to turn out in big numbers, jump all of these obstacles. They're trying to throw our way. We have to make it too big to rig.

52:27What are you saying? Like how are they cheating? Like how is she alleging their cheating? The idea that that's the best they can do is so insane. It's so wild. It's so wild. And it's because if you want to run for politician, they will, if you don't follow their narrative and their plan to a fucking tee, they're going to come for you and they're going to destroy you. And it's usually some creepy sexual thing. They're going to find someone who says that you did something to them in college or high school or whatever it is. And they'll come up with as many things and throw them away as many things as they can find and they get rid of you. They get rid of all of them. I mean, lucky they don't think I've got any chance of winning. I think that's why they've done that. But just on that though, it's interesting. I think this whole system, this corrupt thing that I've encountered. And I don't want to lose your question about what I would do.

53:29I've thought about that a lot. But it's just, it's sort of amazing, but not a me. I knew it was like this, but to see it is something else. The scale of it. Yes. So even things you might not imagine like, okay, a couple of you go, so there's the Chamber of Commerce. Right. It's called Cal Chamber in California. And it's all the big businesses. And look, it's a running a business in California. It's an absolute nightmare. That's why they're all leaving. That's why Elon left. That's why so many companies. Five million in and out. And every day there's a new one that's announced. And then every day I meet business owners, big small medium, all say, who say we're just hanging on to see if you can make it. And if you don't wear out, right, every day. Chief Executive Magazine has an annual survey of business conditions. Like yet I think it was out in April, California, 50th out of 50 states.

54:31Okay. And I think it's been like that for 12, 13 years. So it's like a disaster that what's going on. The Bicera who's running against 50th out of 50 states for business climate. So Alaska is better. Every state in America is better. Not to code us out. Not to code a Florida. Tennessee. All right. So you would think. The one. You would think that when you've got a choice between two people, right? One of whom explicitly says, I'm not going to change anything. That's Bicera. And me, who's someone with business, most of my career has been in business. When you do the ballot, you're allowed three words to describe yourself. I actually wanted to do it fairly because I've done a bunch of different things. And so I went through every year since I left Oxford, 1990s, 36 years. And the majority of my career has been in business. And most of those years running my own businesses. So I put small business on that's the three small business owner. And like in a choice between that, you would think the California Chamber of Commerce,

55:35which represents business, would obviously want the guy who's pro business. Instead of the guy who's going to keep up this. Anyway, we have the money is still there for now. And they're getting that money. Well, there is the lobbyist. There's lobbyist. It's this kind of, it's all of that crowd, right? And we have these endorsement meetings. And then they pick him. They endorse the other guy. And then they say, we think their statement was so full of shit. It was like, oh, it's time for unifying, blah, blah. It's some completely bullshit political thing. Now, of course, because I went in there and I said, we got a change direction. The policies are hurting business. Whatever I just said, what I think. And they went for him because they all they actually care about is the power. And they think he's going to win. And so they want to be in with him. And then the other one that was like that that was in a wave and more shocking was the police. So the police, whatever it's called, police, porac.

56:37The police officers, the association, something they're union. That same kind of thing, you go to them and you try and get their endorsement. By the way, I said at the beginning of this whole process, it's a waste of time. Because they will only care about their thing that they want to get more money for whatever it is. And so I don't want to give them that because that's wrong. And so they weren't endorsement. I'm just telling you, sure enough, this meeting. And I'm completely on the side of the law and order thing. It's gone crazy. The defund the police. The insanity of how they deal with crime. We got a reversal of that prison closures, all these things. And he's not said anything about that. He's just more of the same. Insanity. They endorse him. And then they told us why. Because he promised to deliver on the one thing they really cared about.

57:38Which is some bill that would increase their pensions. Why don't you agree to that bill? Because the pension, one of the reasons that the taxes are so high. And the, and the everything is like, for example, you look at schools. Every or I go, parents are saying, what's going on? We pay the highest taxes anywhere. Like state income tax, property tax, all these taxes. And then we have to pay. The schools are asking us to pay by basic supplies. Like paper, books, like cleaning materials. And the lottery money is supposed to go to schools as well. And they're saying what is going on? Parents are really furious about it. One of the reasons is because of the way they've done the pensions for the teachers. You know, you want people to have good retirement. That's true. But like a fifth, I think it's about a fifth of the money. Before it's even spent in the schools, goes to the pensions. It's a really, really bad situation.

58:38I'm torn because I think they deserve pensions. They take the police. And I think I'd like to know what percentage of the budget, I mean, think about, listen, let's talk about money that's gone to places where it vanished. Like the homeless. 24 billion dollars at least. At least. And even though they've tried to get an audit of it, knew some vetoed that. Stop them. He vetoed it exactly twice, right? And in LA, there was a parallel in LA. There was a lawsuit that ended up with a judge demanding a similar audit. And the estimate was just for LA, it was two billion. And Carambas vetoed the audit in LA. Let's imagine that two billion instead went to fund the police. Yes. Better training, you know, better conditions, better morale, better pensions, higher quality of people that you're hiring. Totally agree with that. We need to massive increase the numbers of police.

59:39Right. Now, imagine what an impact that would have on the campments, on enforcing these laws. You already have laws. They're just not enforcing. 100%. You're not supposed to be able to. The homeless treatments are illegal. They're illegal. That's what I was saying. My first point on my plan is enforce the law. They're illegal. Well, imagine what it's done to real estate in downtown. You know, I'm a downtown real estate group. Business group that filed that lawsuit that I was talking about for LA. Exactly. Los Angeles is the only place in the country that has a useless downtown. It's one of the biggest cities in the, and I forgive, I mean, forgive me if you have a great business in downtown and you love the funky aspect of being, there's wonderful restaurants in downtown. Yes, I've traveled to them, but it's fucking sketchy. It's sketchy. I took my kids once to get donuts in downtown and we're walk on the street. Like every step of the way you like, is this guy going to attack us? Is that crazy? I literally had it the other night we got in from somewhere down to us,

1:00:40staying downtown right by city hall and got in quite late. I wanted something to eat. The hotel didn't have anything and whatever. And so I just walk around trying to find it. It's a Saturday night, but it's not super late. It's like eight, nine p.m. It's just unbelievable. Zombies. Zombies, the stink of like, shit and piss everywhere. And it's a public health problem. And you walk around and you think, how is this possible? It's the second city of America with a richest country in the world. This is, and we're the richest state. I mean, you're being ripped off like that and this is what we end up with. Let's talk about just, but I can't really on the police. The, I mean, LAPD is saying that by the time the Olympics is two years away, they will have half the number of officers that they should have. Half. And yet our taxes are the highest in the country. That's great. They've just, they've just increased the taxes in LAP. Local sales, sales tax gone up.

1:01:40What I was getting to was imagine Skid Row. So Skid Row is roughly 50 something blocks. Right. So 50 blocks where no one wants to buy a building. 50 blocks where no one wants to put up a business. No one wants to lease a building for 10 years. If, if it's, you've got encampments right in front of it. Like what you can't even clean them up. You can't tell them to move. You can't ask them to not shit on your porch. Just on the list. There's nothing you could do. So just think about all the tax revenue that's being lost. All the business being lost. And all of those areas in downtown that is completely unsafe and contaminated. It's, it's just unbelievable. The last time I went, I've been a few times. We went with this. I don't, they've destroyed the word nonprofit now. I don't even want to say that like an actual charity. Like a really nice. A real one. A real one who dump beautiful work. It started off. They were trying to save the dogs. And what's they're doing with the dogs is just unbelievable using the dogs to test their drugs. They use the dogs to make sure the drugs don't have to. Just disgusting. Anyway, so they started off with that. It was just a woman who's driving by and saw a dog in distress.

1:02:43This is a few years ago and around that has built this beautiful charity. It's going there. It's we were there on a Sunday. They're giving out clothes and stuff to help people. And she knows all the people. But this time for some reason I was even more infuriated than before. Because it's like if you're the mayor of LA or the governor of California. And this is going on. What are you doing? How can you do anything else before cleaning this up? It's so. What was there? It was there and it's sort of accepted that's just growing particular is always going to be there. It's so bad. It's been bad for a long time. Yeah. You know, I did fear factor in downtown LA. We filmed a lot of our episodes in downtown LA. Because there was a lot of abandoned buildings. Because of the skin row. That's a big part of it. But also Los Angeles lost a lot of its manufacturing. Just kind of like evaporated for whatever reasons. So one time I was driving home and I took the wrong turn. And I was like, what the fuck is this? It was just an entire street filled with people in cardboard boxes and tents and garbage everywhere.

1:03:47Just piles everywhere. I was like, this is great. And this was like 2004. 2005 maybe. Yeah. It was bad back then. It's just tucked away into this old place. Yeah. We looked at it. There's a documentary about the Cecil Hotel. Because there was a woman who drowned in one of the tanks. And apparently they thought that she was murdered. But then when they got the surveillance footage, it seems like she had a schizophrenic episode. She stopped taking her medication and she jumped into the tank and drowned in there. So it was this whole thing of what the Cecil Hotel used to be like. And that these people that come from other countries, they go, oh, we're going to rent this hotel in downtown LA. Must be nice. It's a historic hotel. It's been around since 1835 or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. Oh, this should be great. And then you get there, you're like, holy fuck. You're in the middle of Skid Row. And it was part of the documentary. It was explaining how bad this area got.

1:04:47It's so bad. And it's also that something about the, just the squall, the filth, the total disrespect. They have medieval diseases that are emerging. Yeah, we have a scene in like a hundred years. It's unbelievable. And I just think that it's amazing to me. It's truly amazing that this just rolls on. And like nothing happens. Right. It's on a state and national emergency. Yes. Scandal of the highest proportion. But you know, but no one goes there. That's the thing. As long as it stays contained. And this is what this documentary was alleging. Is that the practice of moving people to Skid Row started a long time ago. And what it was is to clean up Los Angeles and Beverly Hills. They find vagrants. They grab them, bring them to downtown, drop them up there. Yeah, that's how it got started. And then they kept them there. They literally contained them there. Not anymore. I mean, you don't have to. Well, they don't have to.

1:05:47Because now they know this is the place where you can go and you can get drugs. Yes. And you get drugs from the government. I mean, that's the point. The government gives them drugs. Yes, they do it from this set. What's called, you know, it's harm reduction. They call it. What do they get on? What drugs? They give, um, they opioids. They give them opioids as a substitute for fentanyl to the stage. So what kind of opioids? I don't know exactly. Like methadone. Or which is not really technically an opiate. I can't remember. We went there. They wouldn't let us in. Actually, we tried to film inside. There's a guy just did get inside. Christopher Rufo from Manhattan Institute. And he got any made a film about the crack pipes. They're giving out whatever. They give out crack pipes. Yeah, he did a little, I mean, I don't know if that was a, he made a, I don't know. I didn't see it myself. I was caring for those people. But it's just ridiculous. You've got, but it's everywhere. It's not just skidding. That's the thing that's so, like, this, I'm on the road the whole time. I see the whole state, like probably not many people do. And just there's something about the degradation, the squalor in so many places.

1:06:50Not everywhere, of course. It's beautiful. I love California. I mainly Hills, the squarge are still a lot of places. Yeah, but you've been there. But there's a whole lot more breaking in entering. Exactly. A whole lot more home invasions. A whole lot more cramped. The home invasions are a huge thing. I mean, that's why we, one of the things, again, we're just trying to make a difference here. You know, you've got one particular thing with these home invasions. They're all wearing masks now. It's like a really big part, which didn't used to be the case. And so we've been working on a plan that if you get enhancements for your sentencing, just for covering yourself up, because we've got to try and... There's no interest in trying to... Not only that, there seems to be an interest in letting people out of jail who've committed violent crimes, which I would only do if I wanted to destroy a city. It's crazy. If you wanted to destroy a city, you would do it exactly the way they're doing it. And then the other thing is the most progressive DAs who are willing to live in the city, the days who are willing to let people out no matter what. And then you use a bunch of words like racism, systemic racism,

1:07:53or whatever, discrimination. This is where you want to go. This is where my mic is robbed 99 people over the last 12 years. And the one thing that's good news though, is the new DA is pretty good. Nathan, that's good. He's good. I supported him. I saw him the other night. So he's really doing a good job. It shows that you can't make a change, actually. He's up against a whole system and the political system, which is still captured by that kind of insane ideology. And so much of what you see going wrong in California is exactly that. Is ideology over anything that's practical? Yes. And it's also you have to adhere to the narrative. Yes. Or you will be punished. And so everyone's scared. So they say a bunch of things that they think make sense. There was a really like unbelievable example of it. There was a Democrat state legislator. I think somewhere like Santa Cruz and we're like that.

1:08:55There's a couple of years ago who voted the wrong way on a bill that one of the government unions was pushing. I can't remember the details, but it was like offended. Maybe it was the university teacher something like that. A Democrat. And then they then funded the campaign of the Republican just to teach them not to step out of line. It's amazing. Well, there's a bunch of Republicans that they like to call rhinos. Republican and name only. There's not all those folks. They're basically Trojan horses. I think we have a real problem in this country where there's only two parties. I think it's crazy. There's so many people like me, for instance, that agree with a lot of the things that the left pushes and agree with many of the things that the right pushes but some of the things that the right pushes are fucking ridiculous. And some of the things that the left pushes are fucking ridiculous.

1:09:56But you have two choices. And you're defined by the worst members of each party. You're defined by the dumbest mega people versus the fucking, the Portland people. It's like these are your options. You have to completely ridiculous people who believe in non-binary folk. And then you've people that are, you know, think this is a Christian nation and we should kick out all the Muslims. Yeah. So it's interesting because I thought about this when... Not that. I didn't think about it that much. But there are a few people, because I think for what I'm about to say, it doesn't work, but a few people say, oh, you should run as an independent. You shouldn't run as well. You never would. Yeah, and you know, I am independent minded. And I've never run for office. I'm not part of this machine. I'll just say what I think. Especially because no one thinks I'm going to win. I might as well just go for it. Say what I think. But I, exactly right. You won't win. Yeah. You won't win. There's just no way. Like when Bobby Kennedy was telling me that he was going to run as an independent. I was like, shh. Yeah, but like, he's saying. Like, he fucking can't win.

1:10:57Do you know Michael Schellenberg? He's fantastic. Yeah, he's great. And he ran for governor twice as an independent. Yeah. And I've never, you know, I tried to help. I put him on my shirt. I think he knew he wasn't going to win. Do you think that was the, yeah. I mean, you know, it's good for his career. Oh, I can. And he gives him an opportunity to speak his mind. He says a lot of very, very interesting and intelligent things. Yes, he's great. Yeah, I mean, he's, he's graded exposing a lot of horse shit. Yeah. You know, he's really good at that. And he's very meticulous. He's a good journalist. No, I'm really doing it because I don't laugh. I really believe that I can win for real. Well, you might be able to because California is that fucked. California is that fucked. I think there's a lot of, look. We lived in a very liberal area when I lived in California. Yeah. Everyone was very liberal and it was normal. It was like, it was normal liberal. Like what, what it used to mean? Like you believed in gay rights. You believed in women's rights. You believed in civil rights. Normal stuff. You believed in a social safety net. Normal stuff.

1:11:57Like that was what it used to mean to be a liberal. Exactly. Bill Clinton liberal. That's right. Like the 90s. If you listen to Bill Clinton talk today, he sounds like he's running for a Republican. Nobody, and on immigration, have you seen these clips that people know? He's more mega ill-eal-ed. Hillary was the most mega. All right. She lit it. There's one the other day where she was, I hadn't seen before, which was so, it's like, we can't make it like, we can't have all these illegal immigrants. And we have to, and it was about the health. And we can't be giving free health care to illegal immigrants because we cannot have incentives for more illegal immigrants to come Republican talking point. Amazing. Crazy. But it just shows you it's all bullshit. It's not real. Like this idea that if you're on the left, you're supporting science. You're supporting civil rights. You're supporting it. They're telling you that to get your votes as they can steal money. That's all it is. As soon as you accept that, you realize like, oh, both parties are completely falling. They just fuck you in different ways.

1:12:57There's definitely a, one thing I've noticed, there's in, yeah, in the most of, in Sacramento, in the legislature, they've, I think they just, I don't know, either they don't believe it, or they've just been beaten down. And so you've had this, they've just gone along with it. But actually now, you've got a few Republicans in California and their friends are mine, and we're working together. You've heard of any of these people like Karl Damiro, David Tongue, part Alimostado, the new leader in the assembly, really actually have got this, you know, we're real kind of friends and allies in fighting back against the corruption. That's the big thing, I think, that you learn when you do, is the, the interest groups, the big business, the big unions, they just completely captured the government. And, and I think it's fair to say the Republicans have been part of that. But there's a group of us now who really don't buy it and we're fighting back.

1:13:58I think we can make a big difference. If we get, you know, if we can, they've got a 2,000 majority in the legislature. That's, they call it supermajority. It's been like that for more than 10 years. So they can do whatever they want, the Democrats, and the Republicans have been kind of irrelevant. If we can just, you know, win a few more seats so they don't have a supermajority. And if I can get elected and then we can start to chip away at it for sure. I think it's important to not let either party have complete and total control. That's exactly right. And I don't think it's right. I don't think this is just the Democrats. I think if the Republicans are in the same position, we have a unique, another unique set of corruption and problems that would be similar. They'd be finding other ways to sell money. I mean, this is the fundamental, 100% agree. I mean, that's what I say to Democrats. And we, you know, we can see it in some of the numbers I'm doing well with independence. We're getting Democrats come to my events. One of the things I say is like, it's just not healthy to have one party running everything.

1:14:58And for the last 16 years, they, in California, they've had all the statewide elected positions, governor and other ones, attorney general, whatever. 2,000 majority in both legislative chambers. Every big city, every big county, the state supreme court, 6, 1, Democrat appointees, they just rob a stamp, whatever they want. And it's just not healthy. And it gets into this mentality of arrogance where they just feel they can do whatever they want and no one's ever going to, you know, stop them. Yeah. That's where we're at. And again, if the Republicans were in the same position, the power of them. You have another different set of problems that was probably very similar, because it's just how people operate when they have control. When they have complete, it's just like if you have an authoritarian government. Yes. That's exactly right. Similar kind of a situation. You have no, no one's challenging your position of power. And you need to do whatever you want to do.

1:15:58And then you have a bunch of people that funded your campaign and gave you a bunch of money. And then they're helping you out with this and business deals to your uncle and this and that. Yeah. And then the Republicans do the same. Well, you see, I'm just saying just now in Hungary with Victor Orban. So I'd like no Hungary well because it's my family still over there. And finally, if it's 16 years, he was in power. Same amount of time as the Democrats in California. And by the end, it's all exactly what you're talking about. Like just unbelievable levels of corruption. Yeah. And it's always if they have total control, they're going to be corrupt. Especially if they don't have any oversight. If they can just get away with it like this homeless thing where they've lost the 24 billion dollars. And the government could say, nope, don't look into that stamp. You can veto that. How is that legal? How is it legal that you could veto something? No, and actually the amazing thing about that is that it was even the the the Democrats supermajority. The part that did that right. So the process with the state auditor.

1:16:58It was a Republican legislator that asked the state auditor to look at it. So it's initiated by Republican state auditor to publishes the report 24 billion missing. The legislature as a whole, which is two thirds Democrat run, said we need a proper audit. Yes. It was these guys. It was the demands. It was everyone. It was crazy. Yeah, because those Democrats weren't completely corrupt. It's amazing. You know, they think you'd have to be completely corrupt to not look into that. I know. It's amazing. And then the bullshit is excused that they come. Oh, it's not necessary because of the light. I like. Oh, it's not necessary to look at where 24 billion dollars went. And then not just didn't work, but almost it's increased by substantial margin. Well, because the money, the answer to the question is the very other. I mean, when we say that term homeless industrial complex, what is it? What is it? You look at it. It's basically got two parts to it. You got the non-profits like we talked about that just keep getting the money. You know, they've actually made it illegal to solve the problem.

1:18:00So they've, no, it's not. I'm not joking. It's illegal to, for the state money, to go to any of these organizations that require any kind of response from the homeless person. So you can't require addiction treatment, recovery, anything like that. Job training, nothing. It's illegal. It's called housing first. So like obviously when you've got 80% and the fentanyl is a really big part of it. The idea that it's a housing issue is so broad. So you got the non-profits, but then the other part of it, which is where actually the bulk of the money is going, these crony developers, there's a very small group of developers, house builders, that build these apartment units. They called it permanent supportive housing that are the shelter. And they're charging up to, I mean, a low ball estimate was about 600,000. There are some in the Bay Area that are 900,000, a million dollars per unit to build.

1:19:02Right? I've got a friend that builds apartments in the Bay Area. You know, he said, without all the government bullshit that goes around it, the layers of nonsense that they put in if it's tax-per-money, the union contracts that you've got to use this kind of material, the environmental, all this stuff, you could build it for a quarter, like 250,000 per door, they call it. Four times as much. That's where the money's going. And then you get the unit, whatever, they put the homeless person in there who's still addicted to fentanyl. And as I went, again, with a real charity in Venice, we went around a guy who's a recovered addict, recovering addict, and 23 years clean, and he's actually trying to help people. He actually, you know, he rents Airbnb's, and he does group recovery, and they have a recovery program they do together. He says, like, these guys that are getting the permanent supportive housing, it's like a second home, because they're going back to the street to buy drugs, deal drugs, because they're addicts.

1:20:05Yeah. And you're not changing the behavior. And they're mentally ill. And so there's a massive influx of homeless people during the Reagan administration, where they kind of like open the doors of the mental institution. You're saying, well, we're not going to fund this anymore, which is for public health and safety, that is a fucking terrible idea. Yeah. And then the other thing about that, I completely agree, is that they then that's been incorporated. So, you know, I think that's the idea that you can't have mental institutions in St. Asano. There's this kind of general sense that that's barbaric, and you don't want people in these institutions, and it's better to have them cared in the community. So that's incorporated into Medicaid. And so often with government, you've got to look at the money flows, and one of the things that's still there is this rule called IMD, institutions of mental disease. And the key rule is that there's no reimbursement from federal Medicaid to any treatment that happens in a facility with more than 16 beds.

1:21:09It's a very specific limit, 16 beds, because they don't, it's all based on this philosophy of, we don't want big mental institutions. So that means that there's no incentive to have modern, large-scale mental health care, because that's all these small things, because you don't get any money back if you're the same. I think people are also rightly suspicious of the potential for a medical health industrial complex. Definitely. And then, I'm not thinking how many people, imagine they could just, like, have you ever seen that video over, there's a guy who gets pulled over, and the cops on the spot tell him that he's been evaluated as being mentally unwell, and he needs to come in. And the guy is completely common rational when he's talking to him. And he's like, well, make an appointment, and I'll go and get evaluated. And he's like, no, we're going to bring you in. He's like, what are you saying? Well, you've been deemed unwell. He's like, buy who? I don't have, there's no ceiling against me. It's really interesting.

1:22:11So, apparently, there's more to it. In this video went viral. Apparently, there have been some videos of this guy, where he posted online, where he's acting kind of loony. I saw a couple of them, I was like, yeah, it's a little problem. A little problem. But could also be acting out on camera. I don't know if he's doing this in real life, just because someone's doing it in videos. So, like a lot of people act out in video just for attention, or maybe that's how he blows off steam, says wild shit. Like, you know, we need to eat the earth, or I don't know what the fuck he's saying. So, there's, but the video is very disturbing, because in that moment, if these police officers in Canada are supposed to be evaluating someone who doesn't have an official psych evaluation where he's been brought in, and they decide, you know, you have to be institutionalized. So, that hasn't happened. And so, they're pulling this guy over and based on his interaction with them, he is completely calm and rational. In fact, like, charitably so, because they're saying something fucking totally preposterous, and he's not yelling, he doesn't raise his voice, he's coherent, he's articulate.

1:23:19I want you to watch it, because it's kind of crazy. Jamie, I'm sure you could find it. That's really terrifying. But let's just look at the actual video itself, because the video itself is bizarre, because without any context, then again, I think there is some context. There have been some videos where he act nutty, and this guy might just be manic depressive, where he's capable of keeping it together, like to pretend he's normal when the cops are there, but then as soon as he's on his own, as no one's watching me goes insane. That is possible. But what, were they, did they have any prior knowledge of him? Yes, they would, someone had told them that he's off the rails, so they went in to go get him. But the thing is, shouldn't there be, like, some sort of an official psychiatric evaluation, conservative influencer? Ah, he's a conservative, it's what, being held captive in Canadian meant. Not that I'm real or not, I'm just trying to wait until I can get to the video here. Okay, let's watch the video, put your headphones on, because the video is kind of cookie. And this is Dr. Emery, he's a resident psychiatrist.

1:24:21Yes. Senior resident, he's on a rotation with the car 87. We're part of a program that includes Vancouver Coastal Health and the Vancouver Police. And what we do is we go to people when there's different reasons that come up. Every case is a little different, and we go to people to see them where they are, especially if there's been issues with trying to find them and talk to them. So in your case, I think you were certified under the mental health act. Just, I don't know how long ago, but maybe three weeks ago or four weeks ago, were you aware that Dr. Taylor saw you in a cafe? She didn't certify you, I think you filmed part of it. Okay. And this is Dr. Emery, he's a resident, and then she spoke with your family, got some more information, and you know, you have to turn that on. So just one sec. Yeah. What the officer just told me is that, you know, you and I can set up a meeting and we can chat then.

1:25:21So why don't we do that? Okay. Yeah. I'm not turning the camera off. I'm by the legal right to keep the camera on. If you don't want to make the appointment now, we can do it at another time. But I, you know, that's what the officer just asked that we do. So why don't we do that? So I'm going to certify you under the mental health act. We're going to bring you to hospital to testing on you. And you're going to talk to a psychiatrist in a controlled environment because we don't believe that you're going to attend. You've been, I've never been given a chance to attend an appointment. So he's certified. I've never been given a chance to attend an appointment. What is going on? I was never given a psyche valve or nothing. He just looked at me and said, you're certified. Okay. So I don't know why, but it's up to the doctor. So if you don't know, he didn't even give me a, he didn't even give me an invalid. He just looked at me and said, I'm certified. Please, please consider what you're doing and please think about the fact that I'm more than happy to come to you. I'm not going to be able to do that. Yes. I mean, I'm really good at V-neckless, but listen, that's his fault and unfortunately we can't go back. He hasn't talked and checked out by a doctor.

1:26:27You're interacting with me at a very regular, I've never given a chance. So I had some eggs and stuff for breakfast this morning. Yeah. I had to tape this up because my window didn't have drapes and so all night There's just light beaming into my room so I couldn't sleep last night So I demanded that if they give me tape and stuff to put on my windows that I could sleep to me I'm like one of the only rooms that has no drapes I don't like go Shanger law baby So how fucking strange this is crazy strange so here's the thing like this doctor ran into him somewhere Yeah, and said I'm certifying you based on what right and is he really a conservative influencer or is that a narrative like I don't understand what that means like if you are quote unquote conservative and you have a thousand people on your Instagram and you rant and rave

1:27:28You know and manic depressive manner is that are you a conservative influencer now or is that like rage bait to get them to say like But here's the thing like Canada has socialized medicine and they also have insane government over rage Exactly and if there was someone who was a rabble rouse or online and that person happened to be acting a little cookie Wouldn't that be a great time but meanwhile how many fucking liberal this is Vancouver which is like Portland on steroids like how many Kookie fucking people on the left are being pulled to de-methods of hospitals and making these similar videos Fucking zero which is a little odd but it doesn't mean that this guy's not a little off the rails because the videos that I saw See if you can find some videos of him off they might have been pulled from the internet But a bunch of people were saying hold on There's more to this and we're showing some of them here's the other problem I don't know if those videos are real those videos could be AI You know in this day and age it's almost impossible to tell you could say you have video of this guy

1:28:31You'd say have this guy screaming shit stuff about what you needing over a giant in the middle of his back Or go you could have anything you could say anything, but this is why you got to be so careful about Authoritarianism grouping into government. Yeah, he's really is that right there first of all I don't like his backseat all that shit like boxes and stuff That looks a little cookie like that fits that he might be losing his marbles if he's got You know stacks of stuff unless he's like leaving an office and moving stuff and putting his back seat temporarily It's a weird sign when the entire back seat is filled with boxes and trash you might be losing your marbles But he did sound like there's no In my eyes listening to him talk. There's no indication that this guy's a threat to himself and he must be institutionalized That guy's more than capable of speaking in a very rational manner So even if he's nuts. He's not that nuts. There's a lot of nutty. Yes, who's much more dangerous

1:29:31there's to me this is very like we're talking about the medicalization and everything and There's a trend here of this inhumanity That is really really dark. I mean, did you see the I don't know if you follow the back and forth on you know with the AI guys on Regulating AI and whether AI is positive or negative that whole debate Which which did you see amade the anthropic guy? But it is just in the last few days there was this he It was I think it was on one of the other on all in that's right someone someone was talking about him Wanting to have government like hyping up the doom scenario from from from AI These guys that are hyping up the doom of AI are they actual people that were working on it This is a military amadei who's the CEO and the founder of anthropic and he replied and

1:30:36So the argument was he's hyping it up because he wants regulation government regulation that will protect The kind of big incumbents against you know competition that was the argument and then he replied to the argument By saying he's had some stuff about regulation then is he did long posts on X And the first one was about the regulation at the second one was about actually I'm not that I'm not mr. Doom when it comes to AI I've always said it can be really positive and one of the things he pointed to was this essay that he wrote called machines of loving grace 14,000 words and that was his Response to like being characterized as mr. Negative when you look at this thing. It's so dark like he's going on about Well, there'll be no We can foresee a time when human beings can't make useful contributions to the economy and The people won't have much to do and then they can play video games and then at one point there's what the thing that made me think of it

1:31:40When he was raising well, what are kids going to do and they're saying he starts going about we have things like Ritalin And we know how to medicate people when they're depressed so it's fine if they don't have a sense of Ritalin are you giving me a sense of worth will numb them Literally, that's what he wrote yeah, and and that's what he pointed to as him being mr. positive It's just terrifying. So this is recently this is lost within the last week. Okay, what is his position in the company? Is the founder of anthropic and like the main the big two the programmers though are the ones that are leaving and writing poetry They're oh interested giving up on society and they're they're hiding and waiting You know you hear about that there's one lead programmer that read he wrote some Like a basically a statement as he was leaving explaining the impending doom that is coming to civilization He's checking out and he's gonna ride it out and see what happens, but he left the United States

1:32:41I think he went to Ireland or something like that. Okay, he says he's gonna write poetry Okay, like okay, like I mean this is an existential crisis this guy's happening having while he's working on it working on this thing and realizing this thing is conscious Well, that's one of the things that I feel is so odd about the two that have been most negative Our um amadei dario amadei's anthropic and Sam Altman open AI. Yeah, they're the most negative will have been um And if you believe half the things they're saying They're like well, why are you doing it then if you think this is the end of the human whatever I know they Have dialed it back a bit, but why would you keep building something did you see went to the so bad When Peter Till got asked without the human race should survive Please pause for like fucking 15 seconds like um I didn't read this but The mention of riddlein is like a good thing like yeah figured out how to improve ourselves with things like riddlein and using AI could

1:33:47Potentially make it even better. I mean come on that AI will make riddlein even better. No, no, no, no awesome drugs No, yeah, that will find better versions of drugs that are better than riddlein So instead of people finding meaning and purpose in life, but just not how it's being talked about What is he saying? That's why is it using riddlein is not and then nothing to do and work in meaning discussion It appears this speculation is just about the future of neuroscience. Oh, I see what you're saying So what they're saying they're they're talking about Increasing the potency or making these things more effective For mental health interventions using AI Okay, so he argues that AI driven biology could enable much greater cognitive and mental health interventions Than those available today. That's Really wonderful if true right look I personally know people that have been saved by SSRI's like I'm not I'm not a blanket SSRI's are bad. I have a friend that was severely depressed and suicidal and I got him a psychiatrist And he got him out and he eventually got his life back in gear weaned himself off him now. He's great So like who knows that guy could have made a hasty decision and taken his own life and if he was in Canada

1:34:52They might have probably fucking encouraged it, right? So he's fine now It's just the problem is they're ridiculously over prescribed yeah, and there's another solution The other solution is a natural human solution exactly doesn't involve medication It involves exercise and nutrition and community exactly we can all encourage that for free You know you fucking do push up some body weight squats doesn't cost you a nickel You don't have to go to a pharmacy like all these things all these things are already here like why are we developing addictive chemical Solutions yes, they're all addictive every one of them. They're I have a good buddy right now who got off of him He's doing great and now he's back on him again Because he is just his he's fucked his systems fucked because he's been on for 20 years And it's said it's scary because I know people that have been on them that have done rash things And they've they just they don't feel like they're themselves anymore And then there's also the weird sexual side effects The numbing numbness of the genitals inability to have orgasms there's a lot of fucking weird shit

1:35:54Exactly when there's another solution that's what so Uh, here's some interesting context According to snopes that guy was arrested after he posted this after he posted what this document This is not solicitation if you find this document unattended Do not remove it from the property where it was placed unless you're the owner of said property removing this document You criminally liable for indictable offense carrying a penalty of up to 10 years in prison So what is this done? It's on google docs. It's a court just the the brief like explanation. It's talking about how China and Canada are corrupt and making a dick. It says China in the corrupt Canadian government are trying to turn Vancouver into a dictatorship Police state China has been classified as high risk adversary by all long term democratic security alliances NATO norad the five eyes alliance the Canadian Center for Cybersecurity even carnivom self during elections Carnivos committed treason via secret Chinese policing and law enforcement mo Illegal Chinese police stations in Vancouver selling Vancouver to China via the aboriginal people's undripped

1:37:00Well, is he right? So that's right. I have no idea if he's right or not But that's it was saying he was not maybe an influencer, but a commentator yet like 67,000 followers on Instagram And this could be why they're saying he's nuts right I guess because he's he's uncovering some shit That's probably going on. I could say this is not exactly out of the mainstream to be Listen the fucking mayor of Arcadia in California. They just found out was a Chinese spy The mayor of a city in California. Well, just today. There was more about Swole well and Fang Fang the Chinese Got one of the governor's like I just checked up with a spy I wanted to make the joke So the very first debate the very first TV debate um, you know you kind of getting ready and you think and I really wanted to make a sort of Fang Fang bang bang Bank no Fang Fang gang. Oh, you know, it's an obvious joke right Um, so he admitted to physical relations. Yeah, he denied it for you for all the time and denied it

1:38:02So just today he admitted it. I think it's just in the used it out. Oh, well, was he trying to make a comeback? Yeah, I'm bang the spy. Whoopsies, but I was I knew I was really wanted to make this joke Um About hit you know the Fang Fang. It's just so you can't resist it right. It's a funny name exactly Fang bang whatever anyway, so and and then he didn't show up and and I think well he denied that it's a can I really say that you know Right you gotta be fat you gotta try to be accurate for you so and but then he didn't show up to the debate because he claimed that there was I don't know yet some vote or whatever Well, I never got to debate him the idea that this kid in in Canada is being brought into For mental health evaluation and in prison because he's uncovering that that's not unprecedented That's that that's believable. I don't know if it's true. He might also have been a little kooky This is I don't know the videos that I saw are real but the videos that I again

1:39:05Especially considering what we're talking about now if you were trying to make someone look insane that was Uncovering some real Serious corruption with a foreign government, right? Which is possible of course is possible And also it's American right we're in a huge country. It's like beautifully Crazy in many ways. Yes, people can think what then they got the internet and you get people will You know honestly all the time people are giving me think you know they They've shot things in my hand or envelope whatever and I opened it up every single time because half the time It's something that's you know Something conspiratorial that isn't right or it doesn't seem right in other times. It's like really good ideas But the point is that that actually are useful or they'll make me think about something in a different way But the point is that yes, there's lots of people out there with Great or some more crazy ideas you can't lock them all up. It's not just that there's lots of real corruption Yes, this guy post this and as there been an investigation Do we know whether or not this is an act? Has it been completely debunked because if it has oh well then

1:40:10Maybe you're right. Maybe he's crazy Yeah, or if he turns out that everything he's saying is true Maybe he's a slightly crazy person who's also uncovering the truth which is exactly exactly Sometimes it takes obsessive people. There was a premise of that Mel Gibson movie. Yeah, yeah, he was crazy, but he was actually right no Which one? Yeah, I think it was called conspiracy theory. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, was that with the Julia Roberts. Yeah, it was fun. That's great. Yeah, I haven't seen it. He was like a nutty dude who was on the things He's basically like Alex Jones That sounds really interesting. It was good. I love that you know for the time a little dated you go watch today What if we do I we what one of the things is like what on the road the whole time like long drives is California and So you know find some of these you know every now and again you just want something You know for so the I you what I've there's a lot of movies it turns out that are big parts of American culture that I haven't seen We watched what was it the other night? Super bad. I'd never seen it. I'd never seen it. It's so good. It's what are the best comedies of all time. It was so good

1:41:12I've never seen it. I unfortunately tried watching with my kids when they were 10 and 12 I'm like here sit down watch this and shut it off after three minutes like this is sorry. I forgot. Yeah, I've really it right I mean it's not just like Funny and a kind of slapstick with a bit of that but it was just really clever to see where my kids just sitting in class drawing dicks It's so funny by the way could not make that movie today and the people That's what we were saying we would not make that movie today. We were literally talking about so my friend Eric who you just he's on my team We become good friends. He's um He's you met me like that's exactly what we're saying like they could make sure Well, they got captured the that's the problem with being on the team of the left They got captured by an ideology that destroyed comedy in in their world, right? Yeah, they cannot do that kind of comedy anymore Yeah, nobody believes that you support all the things these people are saying So that's just showing a ridiculous human being who's saying some crazy shit and it makes you laugh

1:42:16It's not changing the fucking world. It's not altering anybody's opinions And it's not gonna force people to do anything that they wouldn't ordinarily do Didn't no good person is gonna watch that movie and want to go out and do bad things. That's not how it works Just a piece of art. It's just like you know Bob Marley didn't really shoot the sheriff, okay? It's a fucking piece of art. It's a piece of art and it's a piece of art that we have fucked up Is particularly movies because movies are attached to Hollywood and then stand up comedy Fortunately has an out and because of the internet. We don't need it. It's Hollywood anymore So but because of that we now get labeled right wing Especially stand up comedy this like not yeah Adherent and I don't want to call it anti woke because that's silly. Yeah, it's not anti woke. It's just comedy Yeah, it's just like woke doesn't allow certain some just it's just and it should be anti-establishment And the when the establishment is taken over by an ideology happens to be that but you go the other way When it's the people in power is supposed to be against the people in power

1:43:18It's supposed to be what is funny. What is funny? What is funny? Yeah across the board And as soon as you say no, you can't make fun of this anymore. Yeah, why yeah why it's a religion It's basically like it's blasphemy to make fun of whatever you would be decided Yeah, and that killed that kind of movie Yeah, yeah, those fucking movies were everywhere. Yeah, the hangover. There was always a movie like that Fucking there's so many and a lot of them I haven't said we were just talking about it. Yeah, I'm not Um Yeah, the the the the summer of the detective's all the premise was about a transgender woman and you find out you's transgender and everybody throws up Do you remember no, I have to say I've honestly never saw a interrupt detective no Oh, I know we got to do list for the road as you watch and money haul over there Fucking Benny Hill reruns Benny my favorite Benny Hill thing Benny Hill was like I'm not saying this But I couldn't like the first there's someone at there's a friend of mine at Fox

1:44:22Cool that she's called candidates. She's very fun. And she um Used to always remember Janet Yellen. Yes, she was there. She always called her Benny Hill And then the minute I saw that that I saw a picture of the next time I just couldn't My Kennedy was an MTV VJ. She's great And then she became a republished and talking head on Fox. I was like that's nuts. She's a real libertarian though But isn't it interesting? Yeah, like someone's like on MTV with like a girl with glasses on you like oh progressive for sure And winds up on but she's cool. She's libertarian. She seems very smart. She's great. Very funny. She does um freedom fest She's like that's a she's big part of that. Uh, uh, okay. She's great. How'd she go from being a VJ like I don't know. Here's the next You know, she's from LH for very young. She's great She's so good. Yeah, I'm very young That's funny, but I love now the comedy think like that's another joy actually um

1:45:24So I used to really so Eric's really to Louis CK. So I've I'd seen a bit of him obviously But I've watched a lot nice so great. I mean, we've really enjoyed that brilliant comedian brilliant brilliant and yeah did Some fucking I know this weird shit, but but the way they described it was so different than the actual acts themselves Those are his response to it was brilliant. That show where he addressed it. Uh, it was so good He had a weird kink where he wanted people to watch him jerk off and he would ask them and if they said yes He would do it look. I don't think you should do that I think it seems crazy to be standing in front of a couple of girls and jerking off from him, but I'm not him. Okay, and I also didn't say if I said no open the door let me out and then you wouldn't let me out That's a different story, but that's not what anyone is alleging. It's just kind of gross and weird and I think he would probably admit to that but You know he did and he had to very funny I thought it was brilliant. I can't remember exactly, but the first big show he did off to that

1:46:27When he sort of returns from like being his art The way is like what you got a judge like what is he It longs. He's not done did what like Bill Cosby did like that. That's a completely different thing. Yeah, it didn't seem That it was a kind of systematic like Really machine like a predatory thing that was just a long going as a weird kink. Yeah, he had a weird kink You want to jerk off in front of people like okay? It's it's So look I get that people would be upset and if you don't want to watch his comedy more I get that too That's fine everybody has you that's your program But like the comedy itself is some of the best comedy that's ever been written. It's exactly ever been done Yeah, he's one of the best to ever do it. I mean if you have a top whatever group of comedians you'll kind of Gang here. How do you like well? He's in New York But he actually helped me design the club. Okay, he came when it was bare bones

1:47:28And we went over the club and he gave me a bunch of great suggestions and I implemented all of them the Smaller our rooms are named after the nuclear bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So it's a fat man and little boy or our rooms This is a reason for that the reason is actually that the because it's the comedy mother ship. It's a UFO-based comedy club The UFOs really started showing up in America after the nuclear bomb So once the nuclear weapons program was implemented in the 1940 the amount of UFO sightings went through the roof And the real big ones were like Roswell, New Mexico, which is 47 so right after the war They started so this is like part of UFO folklore So that's why we did it That's why we named him after the nuclear and not making light of people dying in horrific nuclear bombs So he Told me to make the stage smaller in the little room. It was great idea. I was like right My eyes are stage so big it's small room and then he also said can you it was already a low ceiling He's like can you lower it more? I'm like we can lower it like right to the top of that door

1:48:30It's like you should do that and they like he gave me some advice on sound deadening in the room and what to do and Make it you know how to make the sound crystal clear and just great awesome advice and I The beautiful thing about that club is I took advice from every comedian that was in town I would I bring them there Go tell me what you think what would you want like if you wanted to design a comedy club? I'll literally let you like just tell me what you think and we ran through a vote So there's a whole group of us and it was like me and Brian Simpson and Ron white Tony Hinchcliffe and And all these guys that were good friends of mine that we performed with all the time I we all just sat around and none of the ideas were like I think we should do this I didn't do that with any of them. I said tell me what you guys want to do like and they were like you should have this like Okay, we'll do that Great we should have monitors in the green when we should see the guy on stage. Okay, let's do that What else and everything anybody said we did we should have Free mental health services for all the employees so we did that so free availability for counseling

1:49:33Psychiatry we have that or the psychologist they can they can all go to counselors So it's that's free health care take care of everything give the comedians way more money than any other club does We did that we just like what do we what do we need would it was everybody want the perfect club what is everybody's like Yeah, let's do it and let's do it in a way where we're just trying to make the best thing possible We're not doing it like let's make the most money. Yeah, we're just trying to not lose money So let's just do it that way and it worked and it worked because of People like Louis K Yeah, all these people that came by and gave us advice and told us you know what they think Fantastic, so yeah, so Louis great I love him. He's fucking really smart guy, but like a lot of smart guys. He's fucking weird You know a lot of people I think that about these a I want to be a great comedian you have to be a fucking weirdo You know, they're all just weird in different ways. She pells weird in his way You know Chris rocks weird in his way henchcliffs weird in his way. They're all weird shains weird everyone's an incredible thing To do honestly just it's like really in a tiny way

1:50:37I'm not even comparing it, but I'm comparing this in terms of what I'm doing Which is you got to go there and you've got I don't know I just defused the other just in the last few days you got hundreds of people and you got to entertain them Now I'm mainly talking about politics, which is much easier because you've got You know material that's just obvious and out there and it's bullet but it's But you're right you've got to keep them entertained you can't be boring You can't like and it's you know you got to give a good show. Yes, and so the thought of doing that And being funny All of it instead of what I do which is throw in the odd joke You know political joke or something or self deprecating joke, you know But that's just that's nothing But it's not focusing on that if you focus on that you could do it No, but I'm just saying it I now really appreciate how hard it is Just just it isn't it isn't joe dee is has the greatest saying goes it's the fucking hardest easiest thing you'll ever do

1:51:40Because when you're flowing it's easy You know when you're up there and you're killing it's so easy. It's hard Constructing the material well as you say a lot of preparation There's a lot of preparation and there's a lot of time you have to spend a loan thinking And then you have to spend a lot of time bullshitting with your friends because sometimes like the green room conversations Yeah, some of us like Brian Simpson said something the other day and we're like write that down Yeah, yeah, that's a force each other like right dude. That's a bit That's a hundred percent a bit and he started doing it on stage and it's killing like that happens too And it's like the camaraderie and the fun of like being together like a bruise comedy Yeah, but you also need time in front of the fucking computer or the notebook You need you need to be sitting there going over your stuff If you don't do that you're not going to come up with new material And then you have to try it out and you have to be willing to like plot it out there You have this idea. It's only existed in your head. Yeah, you're kind of Convince that there's something there, but you're not totally sure you're like what do you think about this and you just throw it out there and

1:52:42Sometimes it's great and it's like 50 50 sometimes it's dog shit and by it's 50 50 to what I bring to the stage where There's even got life but writing it down. It's like not even it. It's like you know It's like the Canadian healthcare system for me. It's like what One at 20 One at a 20. No, I think it's just really no, I think it's well. I totally appreciate What you're saying, but it's very I mean to me it seems the ultimate You just putting yourself out there. You're definitely putting yourself out there But you're also doing it this way too like when you're having conversations Maybe you're putting yourself out there even more Because you're actually putting out your opinions and some of them you had no idea you were going to discuss Right, so you're just trotting it out there thinking out loud in front of millions of people like we're doing right now When you're doing stand-up like I know these by the time anyone sees me perform at a club where they're paying money

1:53:44But most of those bits I've been doing so I've been like I'm just trying to add to them and hone them and same the right way and and try move the order around That's why I love about it because that I really do love it and that's why I've really enjoyed It's like I said Eric really into it and um just he's showing me a lot of comedians that I didn't know about and It's I just I love words and language anyway, you know, I've written but in completely different I've written books and whatever TV scripts when I did my show that kind of thing So I really appreciate language and and I love The just how changing the order of a word or whatever can just make something work or not work. Oh yeah I love changing the order of a word changing the way you do sometimes you do a joke like Louis used to do that Where he would like reverse a joke like turn it around and then maybe he would like take it and do his best joke and open with it So that his jokes afterwards had to get better right to follow his best joke Yeah, it's a constant little

1:54:45Fucking laboratory up there and you need the audience yes in order to find the life Do you need do you see their faces like can you see or the lights too much in your face? How can you see you can see most of the first few rows right because that's important must be for helps yeah It definitely helps the um it's not just listening to the volume of laughs is it like what is it Ah this both things but obviously they're they're there to have a good time you've but my job is easier Because I'm going on after the they're already laughing right so there's been a few people on before me Everybody's having a good time and then you're you're basically just connecting with them You know you find them. What's up? How are you? You like let them get comfortable you connect with them And then you just do in the material you just finding the reality you have to be like Whatever you're saying you have to be 100% thinking about that thing only yes You can't be thinking and then I'm gonna say it like no you have to be thinking about the thing yeah

1:55:46And that's it that's the primary thought you know the pacing of it You know what's coming next but you don't think about what's coming next you think about the thing Yeah, that's where preparations important they have to make sure that you like have a set list and order But you also have to be flexible because there's gonna be moments where you want to like Dive out of that set order and something might happen in the audience or something might come up And you have another thing another take and you like this would go better right here So I'll shove this in here and they have to remember your order and go I didn't do this I'll put that later. It's so fun. It's it's it's not the set but it there's a similarity because You know I do all these things and you and you've got bits really which is my thing on high speed rail And you know, I and sometimes and there's a long version of it and a short version of it and what I've been and like And then suddenly you'll find yourself doing it even though I hadn't intended to right and then oh shit That's like really long and I've got a finish like what am I gonna cut so you right right right sort of I mean it's not the same but it's similar it's similar and I definitely find trump does bits

1:56:49Oh, yeah, and he and he just on for so I'm never done that long but um remember when he just did this Impromptu bit about Biden losing himself on stage just wandering around not knowing where he was It's like he's doing stand-up like everyone's exactly exactly but I find it much Better I much prefer it when you can you're closer to the people like physically when you can you're not on some stage Comment as a way, you know that kind of yeah, Connie clubs the way to do it. That's the real way However, there's something very intimate about doing um an arena in the round okay So I've done a bunch of those where you're standing on a circular stage In the center of the people and what's intimate about that is all the people over here are looking at all the people over here Everybody sees everybody yeah, yeah, you see each other. It's the right way to do it because that way Everybody's seeing everybody else having fun and they're a lot closer than you think they are they're all right there There's a lot of them But at all the comedy like

1:57:49Sprays out to the outer edges. Yeah, but the center hive all around the stage Which is thousands of people yeah, and a 16,000 see to rena you're looking in the eyes of six thousand people Plus yeah, and they're and it's like they're all seeing each other. It's very intimate oddly Great yeah, it's fun as opposed to like a a big Arena when you're standing on a very high stage and the people are all out there. Yeah, that feels crazy Yeah, that feels very detached that's that's a different that's not my favorite. That's my least favorite is an arena Where it's just a flat stage and you're not like surrounded by them Yeah, I I agree It feels like you're just Delivering something rather than connecting exactly, but a theater can be pretty intimate too Like especially when you're used to doing arenas of if I do like a three thousand seat theaters Kind of intimate. Yeah, it's like it's all what you're comfortable with too. That's a part of it too So are you comfortable with all these people staring at you? Well, I never you see that's the weird thing. I would never of

1:58:54Suddenly, I'm doing I've never done it before right and suddenly you have all these You know, and it's a mate. I mean, I love The response, but it's it is weird because I've gone from nothing to Right, and you go in a room like hundreds of people like cheering with the biggest crowd you've had to speak in front of Probably well probably when I did Megan Kelly's show when Megan Kelly was here Yeah, not here in California, and I did I Did a spot there. I did the Bank of fields it was in an arena and Bakersfield the announcement for the UFC weigh-ins so the I am see the weigh-ins At the ellipse on the White House. Oh, so is 80,000 people that was fucking nuts Those are the most people I've ever talked to right and that was a very different way of talking because all I'm doing is reading people's names And their official weight. It's very easy. Yeah, you know, it's just hyping it up getting everybody pumped up. Yeah, you know, you know Like lady, yeah, yeah

1:59:54Poorie, and it comes out everybody goes crazy. It's easy, but it's the vibe the feeling of 80,000 people is fucking nuts It's a weird feeling, you know shane gillus my buddy just did stand up I heard so 76,000 Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah, fill a fucking football stadium That had to be in Saturday. You could do that easy if you wanted to it's it's you'd get the people It's a crazy thing to do. I don't know if I could do that easy. It's not easy. He broke the world record Okay, and change huge and he's really funny. He's like one of the funniest guys. Yeah, that's a good example I'd never seen him maybe I get him to come down tonight. I don't know if he's there. I mean if this is a town I don't really get him run that was the first thing. I just so many good bits It was a bit about George Washington's museum. I don't think so. Oh my god Is one of my I would request it from him all the time like please do that bit It's so fun about George Washington's false teeth being made out of lead It's such because they were it's such a crazy bit. It's so good. He's he's a great comedian

2:00:55Yeah, and that's all he cares about. That's what he loves and he's like all in and just an awesome guy too When you're around him. Yeah, he's just so fun. Uh-huh, and like everyone always smiles. You're around He's he's like he's contagious, you know, he's a contagious party great fun guy But like we're really lucky that there's a lot of those guys here now, you know, this is like this is a giant hive of them now Well, you've built that Well, we all did yeah, you know, we all came no I hear what you saying it that they contributed but Well, we ought they had to be here for me to be able to do it It's not a thing that I could have ever done and said hey everybody move here now It's not it would have never worked they had to already be here everybody moved here before I even had a club a lot of them Okay Yeah, like Sugura moved here before I had a club that could move them make thing Yes, like getting out of places with yeah, yeah getting out of places and going to a place where you can actually perform We're all addicts, you know, stand-up comedy is a very very addictive thing And if there's a place where you can go where you can do it and your friends already lived there and for me it was wrong white

2:02:00And it was also There's a thing about the free-ness of this city like the free-ness of Texas the freedom that you had here To be able to go to a restaurant your businesses could stay open They didn't put the same kind of restrictions They had a small lockdown for a short amount of time and they went okay Let's get back to work and they did and California's like we're going to die I know still driving around their cars with the mouth. I know it's so crazy. I remember It's so funny thinking about because all this where I was reminded of all this goes at the Fauci stuff the other day Yeah, the Fauci stuff. I'm a wild because I was really honestly that I mean I didn't you know I did the show on Fox News. I would never say I'm a journalist right ever It was an opinion show. I just said why I thought but I did do Some I like one piece of journalism like actual journalism, which is the Fauci stuff It's in fury, you know the origin of the virus. I really did you know Lay that all out in a way that no one else did because I had these people I knew at Stanford

2:03:03I taught at Stanford So a lot of that information about Fauci and the origin and the all of that I had For and and people help me piece it together and it's just infuriating that he's still infuriating Well, I think the most infuriating to me thing was that he knew about the miscarriages during the first trimester He knew about that and he was still promoting it for pregnant women like how many women listened to him and got vaccinated And then have a miscarriage We don't even know what the numbers are right because those are never reported as vaccine injuries We have no idea just infuri. I mean, well, I was listening to who did you have on the other week? That lady who wrote the book you got into it with she had a book You're talking about I can't remember. She's like an investigative Annie Jacobson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She about the germ warfare about yeah, I was with warfare So I just listening to that and then I did the light you told me really get into it like little bit on the just on the origins and the in the gain of function and all that oh

2:04:04Well, she just probably was trying to be politically correct and probably not Well anyway, I still try to tell books or something. I don't know. Well, I remember thinking is I wanted to is that It's still not I don't think understood How directly Fouchy was implicated like it still you hear this language of oh, you know, he funded The gain of he thought no he in he pushed it. This was his thing. Yeah, he really really was the main Global champion of gain a function not only that he enforced the narrative that this was not a lab leak and that a lab Talking about us a lab leak was racist. Yes, he did the thing that I remember when I first laid that out and it was You know, it's still on the way on my Wikipedia. I pushed the conspiracy theory that you know Fouchy did the virus But he did the that I was trying to show people like when they say well, why would he do something like that? He was really

2:05:06The main advocate. There's a piece he wrote I was start with this which is I think it's December 2011 Because gain a function to be around a few years They started with the ferrets or whatever and they had this new technique Ralph Barrett Mm-hmm all of that yeah, and then it became very controversial in the scientific community had a whole bunch of scientists saying this is Crazy this is gonna lead to a pandemic. We have people saying that yeah And Fouchy argued back and he wrote this piece at the end of 2011 With the other guy Francis Collins who ran the NIH saying The engineering I think it's almost exactly engineering a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory is a risk worth taking He wrote that like he was pushing this stuff and like the thing that everyone You it's it was his initiative It wasn't he's like passively funded this thing that some other minions were doing this was his big thing

2:06:09Yeah, it's just outrageous that it hasn't been and he broke the rules That's the other part that that people forget that Obama in 2014 put a moratorium on it. Yes, which included stuff that was already in train Which included the project that led to covid and then again? Are people often say well Trump lifted the moratorium he did but he put back a new thing which was It was called the pretentious pandemic pathogens thing protocol which said that when you renew a project It should go to independent review. He broke that as well So he broke the rules to push this and he's like still not really had to pay any price for it unless you say his reputation Well the reputation but he's also so old that it's not working anymore anyway But the thing about it was that pardon that gave him a pardon for crimes that he had not been convicted for which had never happened before a Preemptive pardon for and also for ten whole years for everything he did He could have been eating babies for ten years and like no pardon fine

2:07:11And then when you have a pardon You're not supposed to be able to plead the fifth and yet he please the fifth with everything including the color of his fucking tie It's disgusting. He's a strange guy and the fact that he was a hero Really shows how sick people were in 2020 looking for some sort of a solution But they didn't know his history. They didn't know what he did during the AIDS crisis. Yeah, he's a scary person And the scare is an arrogance of it and the thing that I'm also really Get really pissed off about still is when you hear the conversation around this On that going back now to the lockdowns and all of that and the school closures There was such a disaster businesses churches and people say well, we didn't really know and it was early and we were just being We did know it's not true. I did a piece March 2020 like right it was in the before the end of 15 days to slow the spread right at the beginning because I got to know through Stanford J batter chariot

2:08:13John you need is all these guys that were speaking out they did a blood What they've ever called it Sarah prevalence thing in Santa Clara County where this whole thing started proving everything that we now knew and Including what Fauci now we know from the whatever the this diary New as well those Santa Clara Clara County is this the two doctors that they went public with this and then they lost their license and this is J And John you need is they were the So you need is I know about Jay and the crazy thing about him was that he was one of the people that was kicked off a twitter correct Yes, yeah, which is what when worse than that kicked out really persecuted by Stanford They need to be held accountable. That was a crazy thing So the first lockdown in the country was Santa Clara County In one of the Bay Area counties then the next day The other Bay Area counties did it and then after that Gavin did state why it's well started

2:09:13And the woman who pushed it was the public health Go haven't talked about this for ages the public health director or whatever of Santa Clara County Sarah Cody And she was married to the head of Stanford medicine And Jay spoke out against what was going on with actual data They did a study of what was happening in the community that proved That the case fatality rate Was far lower than what they're saying but it was also in the leaked emails all of it He was aware that it was far lower and he was still promoting it exactly But the point is that this it's again corruption because he was speaking out Against the lockdowns that were pushed by this woman Sarah Cody Her husband who was head of Stanford medicine persecuted Jay. He was treated so badly They suspended him. They accused him of the head of some bullshit investigation Into him outrageous That no one's ever done anything about that as far as I can tell

2:10:14Stanford no it's It's creepy to watch that top-down power in action when you know that they're lying and yeah, you're seeing these Lying's massages and emails. Yeah, the Fauci thing is very creepy When it just shows you why he was pushing for that pardon But then there's the question of whether or not that part is even legitimate because it's all auto-pan stuff Yeah, and Biden was out of his fucking mind like I know. Well the thing I always think is also this um The state levels are you to federal pardon right? So states are gonna But then there's this immunity if you're doing stuff in your public role You can't be sued for that or something. I don't know. Wow. Well, I mean he lives in hell I mean he knows but I think he's a bit of associate path. I think there's something about him Like when he was prescribing people AZT for AIDS He's a doctor He's well aware that AZT was pulled as a cancer medication because it was killing people quicker than cancer They were using it as chemotherapy and people were dying faster

2:11:15And so they already had this FDA approved drug and so this new gay cancer. I mean they literally were calling it the gay cancer first They just started giving it to them like well. We have a medication for it And then Fauci's on record saying the reason why we prescribe AZT is because it's the only medicine. It's both safe and effective Effective of what affected killing asymptomatic people They were also using the same playbook that they used during covid by using The these testing methods that had an enormous amount of false positives Like Kerry Mullis himself was there's a video of him. He's a guy invented PCR testing He's talking about Fauci Fauci doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about He's like he's a bureaucrat the guys foolish shit He doesn't know that you should never use a PCR to determine whether or not someone is ill He's like it's not how worse because if you ramp up the cycles enough You could find anything and that's what they did during covid They felt like it's 80 something percent false positives Fortunately a lot of those people weren't forced to take AZT But there's a lot of people that turned positive for HIV that probably didn't have it at all

2:12:19They gave them AZT and they were fucking dead And this is the he's the fill-in in the Dallas-Biers Club that movie with Matthew McConaughey That's all about people who have AIDS seeking alternative treatments and being denied them Because he was trying to find a vaccine for it even back then They were testing the vaccine for it on fucking foster kids and killing them in New York It's all in RFK juniors book It's again if his book lies How can he has him in suit It's really amazing How It's they're able to get away with stuff that's truly evil truly evil yeah, I mean testing the AIDS vaccine on on foster kids is crazy and then dying It's crazy, but this jerk The AZT thing is crazy How you know what determines You know when the sort of the media

2:13:23Mindset towards something or whatever that means that this story gets Attention and and massive oh it's really simple. It's really simple Pharmaceutical drug commercials all that would change if they're not allowed to advertise We're one of two countries in the fucking world that allow pharmaceutical drugs to advertise on television One of them is New Zealand and their farm are restrictive than us and because of that You look you have ads that you see that are playing on CNN that are not even for a drug that's commonly used For some weird condition that you people have and you know persuade you you've got the condition That's so what they're really doing is not selling drugs with the really doing is making sure that CNN Does never talk shit about the pharmaceutical drug companies and doesn't do any stories on the adverse side effects And doesn't do any stories about how many of them get pulled by the FDA that initially get approved and they find such a horrific side effects They have to pull them because it's a large percentage It's fucking nuts man and it's

2:14:23Who wasn't that brought it up that was explaining how You know he had figured out a long time ago that the the reason why they spend so much money on advertising is not because they're trying to sell drugs They're trying to buy these networks. What makes sense? It's an enormous part of their ad budget And they spend so much money on television and who the fuck is watching CNN at this stage of the game You know, what are their numbers their numbers are pretty pissed poor for the amount of money that these drug companies are spending And then you see so many ads So many for this and everyone's always at a barbecue Fun they have it fun and like yeah, there was a brilliant parody The Nicole Shana handed when she was with Bobby running She did really want for TDS. Do you suffer from TDS trump derangement syndrome that she didn't like a farm ad? Oh, that's really really great That's so crazy, but the thing I was thinking of when you like the

2:15:25You know, you're really dark human consequences. So like you know, I'm focused on it because he's my opponent But this story of Bacerra and the kids the migrant kids. It's a story them I bring it up to people and a lot of you have never heard about it like literally no idea what is the story when he was bob He had job Bobby's job and Bobby can his job at HHS secretary And you had It was during the four years you had the open board and the way it works is that And millions of people come across the open border. We don't know exactly how many but the kit unaccompanied kids Are the responsibility of HHS that's how the system works So he was responsible for them and the total number we know because it's recorded 479,000 Kids unaccompanied kids without parents. It's an amazing number in the four years of the Biden administration All of those kids were my have a Bacerra's

2:16:25Responsibility so they had they were overwhelmed they set up these camps Do you not know any of this? They have they have these camps They set up to process the kids in Florida, Texas. There were three in California and the point was to try and get the kids to a safe sponsor relative someone who look after them and They had so many they were overwhelmed and there's really bad stuff going on in the camps. There were reports of sexual Abuse the older kids You know some of the older kids were like You know 17-year-old rough, you know some were gang members whatever So there was all this ship going on in the camps sexual abuse physical abuse it was bad And it was like pictures of you know like we went to one then Pomona one of the Exhibition halls like 150 kids on cots it's bad And so Bacerra Wants these kids out because it looks bad and they'd gone on and on about Kids in cages with Trump and so he basically and we've now got these whistle blows coming forward

2:17:30And the York Times reported it the New York Times broke this story But it's just basically not gone anywhere. They did it in 2023 The he dismantled the vetting that was supposed to put the kids with a safe place And so they lost track of thousands of kids and many Went to child sex traffickers slave labor child labor traffickers just horrific stories you had And what was the rationale for because they were too They weren't moving them out of the camps quickly enough. So we had a whistleblower Come to us because these people said how can he be governor? um Who said We were supposed to connect the kids with the responsible adult check their identity ID checks home visits all this But the instruction was it's going too slowly we got to get the kids out she said speed over safety

2:18:31And so when they raise flags about it like 200 kids Sent to an address that turned out to be a container lot Like not a real address. It's just a front for traffickers um a kid sent to A woman who was in wanted by interpol like a gang member like just crazy so when they raised those stories They were fired like it's really terrible what happened and Still there I mean hhs just published them because they were still responsible Numbers from I think it was two weeks ago that there's 330,000 that they're still missing they don't know where they are 40 kids died like it's really bad And yet it's like fouches like He's the candidate for governor no one's really Calling him out on it. It's amazing to me Oh It's really bad Joe honestly you've got that is crazy you've got to be responsible for that many kids and say

2:19:35Speed over safety so there's a story again We're so blood we've put about the videos. I mean some people you know this woman said she was a case worker it Pomona and Becer actually visited that camp Visited did a photo of whatever and he's going on about how we're Doing a good job of finding safe places whatever And then the interviewer I was at the taping it was she didn't she's in a job where she doesn't want retaliation so I was there for the two hours we taped the conversation and the interviewer asks her Did anything change After Becer is visit She said yeah Everything was at the speed up and they had strike teams that were set up to tell us Don't check the you know when she would say this idea is obviously a fake ID for this person like the photos like a selfie It's obviously fake Don't worry just send them quick get them out like really surprised and and this even the the New York Times story had

2:20:38A boy who she had a few examples because she tracked them down she want to pull it surprise for it um A kid who ended up in him. I don't know meat packing plant 13 14 year old had his arm ripped off in the accident Our girl one of those she came forward as a whistle blow. She a victim She was on camera She said you know she's telling the story she was like put on a plane and they said You know what happens they didn't let her take her stuff She Was met at the other end she said there's there's three guys They pick just no idea who these people are she's from I think Guatemala. Who's the El Salvador? Um Gets in a car with three guys no idea Taken to a house she has to work 20 hours a day sleep on the floor with four guys in a room. She's a girl from Is you know, it's just and there's so many of these stories um Bobby get the way Bobby puts it is the Bacera turned HHS into the largest child trafficking operation in history

2:21:47Holy fuck yeah exactly And yeah, it's running for gunner for California. I remember honestly Joe like When we did these debates? You know you we did a lot on and not just debates but forums and you meet and I thought he's a nice you know I'd see him with chat backstage or whatever and I thought You know he's kind of Nothing he's a bureaucrat type person nice guy perfectly nice smiley's a nice Amiable guy And I just thought he's like an amiable non-entity But the more you learn about this it's like really bad Um because it's a classic thing with these career politicians obviously all that mattered was I don't want to look bad. I don't we've got all these kids. They're in these camps the media has access to them It's really looking making me look bad get these kids out It's just shocking. Oh my god. It's rocking. That's so evil

2:22:51Yeah, it is so and it's also really racist All of them will Latino yeah because you think about it if that was all kids from Norway Little young boys and girls from Norway. Do you think they would treat them the same way? So Pomona where this camp was there was three in California Long Beach San Diego and Pomona So the case worker who did did whistle she was she said Um There's a notorious child sex trafficking Street area near that She said before this most of the girls were African-American black girls after the camp Suddenly it was all Latina girls Like it was just so obvious that that was what was happening God child sex trafficking Well, if if there's child sex traffickers and there's such an obvious vulnerability Like hundreds of thousands of unaccompanied kids making across the border. Of course

2:23:56They're gonna sneak in exactly The whole thing wasn't said you can let yourself another thing yes boy I mean They took away that some they had these papers that they would send them off with and it had a line That's informational which included a hotline that they set up If the kids felt they were in danger It took under trafficking hotline There were 65,000 unanswered calls to the hotline It's just a bullshit like thing that didn't work And again the the people who pointed that out were fired Oh my god. It's really bad. It's like to me the people that pointed it out were fired It's just this is to me I've been you know, I've been in and around Politics media government one more another for a long time. I've never seen anything like this And he's like it doesn't even seem like it could be real that's what I thought the numbers are so crazy It's so great some sort of a conspiracy theory that's usually disproven exactly

2:25:01Well in the first reporting of it was the New York Times 2023 Holy shit and and and but everything that's coming out is it's worse even than that What do you think was going on with the whole open border? I think that they It's I think they believed That any kind of restriction on immigration was racist and therefore It was part of the ideology around that that we can't put people are coming and They're fleeing bad conditions and you can't stop them because it's racist to put restrictions on immigration I think that's what it was mainly okay So that is a great way to justify flying people into swing states And then trying to turn them into citizens which is what they were actually talking about doing

2:26:02Pelosi talked about that Schumer talked about that they talk about got it getting these people citizenship Which means those people can vote There's also moving them into these swing states and if you move them into the swing states The census doesn't count whether or not you're a citizen the census counts whether or not you're a human being And so it changes the number of congressional seats that are available So there's that and then there's also putting these people on Free health care and giving them money and setting them up and then if you can get those people to vote eventually You've got to built in voter and you could change like so I never Know about that whatever million people got in over the last four years. They're not going to vote for Trump How many say you can make those people vote if you let those people vote How many of those people are going to vote for the Republicans that wanted to get rid of them with ice and how many of them are going to vote for the Democrats They wanted to fund them and help them get across the border. It's pretty simple Even if you don't get all of them you're going to get most of them So you think that I mean I hear that often. This is what Elon thinks

2:27:04It seems to me that's so dark and cynical Well, if they wanted to do the whole country what they've done to California and have complete and total control with one party Well, they've already done it in a state Why not just implement it through the entire country in California? You can't show ID It's illegal that Why would you do that? Why would you do that? There's only one reason yeah, you want to cheat and now they go And we've got voter ID on the ballot in November in California which is crazy that you have to ask for that exactly and The attorney general of this guy bonter. I don't know if you've been following he's doing the paramount lawsuit He's like a total political hack All he ever does like we got out of control crime and all this shit All he does and they're same with by the way bacerra Mike I keep coming on he's my opponent. He was attorney general of California Um appointed he didn't get elected All he talks about in terms of his record

2:28:05And he was a ton of during the time when crime exploded is how many times he sued Trump But this guy bonter now There was this ballot in his there is a ballot in his ship on November For voter ID He just changed the description. Did you see this no so It had a kind of accurate description of what it was You know this measure you know he got the ballot and the voter information this measure will require people to show I And that was approved by the whole system And just in time before they start printing them he because it's the attorney general who decides changed it to say Like the most negative possible thing this I mean I haven't got the exact words you can find it But it was like this measure Prohibits voting unless you have and it goes on to make it sound really good. It's like it's so cynical This is just what they do

2:29:07Yeah, well, they weren't trying to get people to look at it in terms of look at it through their ideological lens Rather than through practical lens But but it's also like it's so crazy that you have to have ID for almost everything It's crazy and they say oh it's so discriminatory like what are you talking about that racist? Yeah, what about driving a car You have to have a license to drive a car What about you know check into a hotel? I mean every night. I'm a different hampton in That's where we stay ID yeah, you have to show ID to buy booze. It's like IDs everywhere. It's normal. It's like we need to know that you're real It's a very when you watch them defend Their opposition to it you it really I mean, I'm generally not I taught you know, I I'd really true try and see the best You know, that's just their ideology whatever then it's not really cynical But when you see the way they wriggle and squirm over voter ID It's like what other explanation is that exactly it really it's such a ridiculous thing to be opposed

2:30:12It's pretty clear. It's pretty clear that there's an advantage and the advantage is definitely On the side of the Democrats the voter ID advantage. It's uh, it's just it's just crazy It's just it's just we have lost our fucking collective minds uh, and you know It doesn't help when you know this administration is in this war with Iran that makes no fucking sense whatsoever And everybody's like oh so you look at that like it just builds up the other Sides argument. Well, that's what they say. So it's okay no matter what example Massive thing in California for everyone is just gas prices highest in the country by far um Higher than Hawaii in the middle of the Pacific Ocean even though we have Abundant oil reserves in California slides so insane the literary shipping in they're shutting down California oil production Shipping it in from halfway around the world like 80% now ship from Iraq

2:31:13And the Amazon rainforest like Gavin goes to the Amazon rainforest to the climate conference the lecture everyone about climate Because of his climate policies In oil drilling in the Amazon is now being increased to provide California's oil anyway It's so crazy for they've do all these things like right now And you know, and it's all as a direct result of what they've done right in the gas prices are so high And it's regular working people who have screwed like people to drive their cars and trucks every day for what's not the climate war is You know in their laptops You know in Marin County, do you not I mean anyway the war Is now They're go-to response so you make a point about gas prices. Oh, it's Trump's war And of course it's true that the war has Um increased gas prices everywhere, but it's still two dollars higher in California than anywhere else. Yeah, but it lets them off the hook

2:32:15Well, it's just indicative of the same problem that you're gonna have whenever a Single party is running a state for that long unchecked just like you were talking about hungry Or it's just like it could be anywhere get fill in the blank anywhere in the world where you get exactly You get power and you get complete control And then you just tax the fuck out of people and then you keep increasing government which they keep doing It's pretty wild changing this vlog make it cheaper or that'd be even harder to do California gas because it uses unique strictly regulated clean burning boutique blend mandated by the California air resources board to reduce smog and greenhouse gas emissions Specialized fuel must be refined locally on an energy island because no pipelines connect the state to outside fuel networks It's just more the same so that this is important. So See that California air resources board carb That's the main agency that That's driving the cost of everything high when it comes to energy gas and electric

2:33:16And actually now you're earlier question. What can you do? There's there's basically four reasons the gas prices are high the highest in the country One is the gas tax which is the highest in the country That I can't do anything about as governor that's the legislature They just increased it so you got all these democrats running around say affordability We have to do something about the affordability crisis. They just increase the gas tax in California So just it's so ridiculous, but that's that's the first thing I can't do anything about directly All the other things you can it's partly that is the regulations on the refinery But it's also these hidden taxes like you've got The low carbon fuels they will sound good the low carbon fuel standard Cap and invest they call it the cap and invest for a that's funding high speed rail These are basically taxes on gas that the energy industries pay Then you've got the fact that we're importing oil this oil Rather than producing it so instead of

2:34:17producing in California and in the cleanest regulated standards anywhere in the world Right, which is what we have because we've got all these regulations And sending it in a nice pipeline Just a hundred also miles from near Bakersfield Kern County to the refineries in Long Beach and Torrance We are what I said early shipping in there's like that said there's no pipeline from outside California bringing on tankers from the number one in the Middle East is Iraq Bernie immense amount of fuel all along the way because they run on bunker fuel Which is the most dirty form of work so they are I'm not this is an accurate statement They are increasing carbon emissions in the name of climate to make it look at if their climate war is Fighting fossil fuels It's just Fucking crazy. Yeah, but it's the ideology. It's not even It's so funny. I just sort of talk about their climate policies not even the climate policies

2:35:19It's climate posturing. It's like they want to look as if they're yes doing well It's it's a part of the ideology like you said It's it's a part of the doctrine the religious doctrine that is left You have to say that climate change is real Science is science you have to say much things love is love you have to say much things It's like house is the things. Yeah, I was that that's literally virtue signaling It's not just virtue signaling. It's kind of religious doctrine. Yeah, it's a ideology Yes, it's not just and you phrase, but that's what it is and it's it's kind of religious and like Mark and Dreson's talked about this It's kind of like a cult like the you if you don't follow you are ex-communicated. Yeah, and I did a conference the other day in Sacramento I went up and there's something about it. It was the smugness was so I normally try and be reasonable and just you know Make my arguments and sort of There was something about this it was a kind of climate thing. It's not things. I agree with it was Green energy

2:36:20I'm all for that whatever great. Let's have innovation. I'm not against any of that. I am against the windmills The insane oh, they're insane windmills like totally inefficient. Yeah, and then they have to go into landfills And they only last a certain amount of years then you have to take them down and they bury them in the earth They never degrade and they catch fire and it's like seeing kill birds Wait, have you heard the latest though? This is the It's actually one of my bits To go back to the thing because it's so crazy is the is the new plan For windmills is offshore windmills in California in two parts more obey off the central coast humble up in the north Including Having them far out because the wind is more But except also the ocean is deep there. So they're going to have floating windmills Have you heard this one? No floating and these windmills are They're like big they're like a thousand feet. That's the height of the Eiffel Tower. I pretty much

2:37:23Floating and that one of the proposals like 10,000 so 10,000 Eiffel towers floating off the It's insane Trump just stopped it and now they're suing to reopen it By the way when energy when we have in California today existing Natural gas fired power stations which could provide all are more than all our electricity needs today more than all It's like something like 300 gigawatt hours a year. We only use about 270 something like that But they're only they're running these natural gas power stations are like 10 Like 20% of their capacity to use as backup for the windmills and for the solar farms If you ran them at full capacity what we've already got you don't need to build anything You could more than me all our needs But no, that's too sensible. So we have the floating windmills And and of course we have the highest electric bills in the country apart from Hawaii

2:38:27Double the national average and who and the reason I got cross at this conference Is that they were going you you want to Reduce the renewable goals or something. No, I just want common sense I'm all for it. If it makes sense if you can make it pay great But the people who you're hurting with all of this is regular working people not kind of elite people are conference in sacrile Just working class people who are just being crushed and I see it every day and the struggle you know literally they they The number one thing people say to me. It's really striking When in all these you know, I've really met a lot of people As I said hundreds of events thousands thousands of people They say it's not a lot. Oh good luck. I hope you it's like you have to win There's like this intensity. It's really interesting Well because they know it's slipping away. They don't want to move and they're so it's hard gotten significantly worse over the last 10 years And they don't want to move yeah, and it's so difficult and the fucking story but people just oh

2:39:33And it's not even It's so casual and cruel the way it's like yeah for our ideology With jack up your electric bills and your gas prices and you just have to suck it up because We want to make ourselves feel like we're leading on climb. That's the other thing I said I said they were yelling at me from this conference And I said You tell me What is the impact of any of this on climate change? I said I'll give you everything you're saying about climate change, okay? Let's agree Climate change we got to fight climate change. What is this doing? To fight climate change? What is the impact on global temperatures of any of this? And like nothing because the answer is zero It has zero impact on global temperatures, which is the only thing that matters and then someone shouts out This is where they always go. Oh, we're leading We have to have a leadership role. We're leading That's it. Who's following?

2:40:35No one because it's crazy. It's hurting people all these countries are backing off it That's the one thing that China has an advantage in is that their government and their business work like that Yeah, and the business works for the government and the government exactly controls the businesses It's not a good thing But the one advantage that they have in there they don't do anything stupid is just going to lose money for virtue signaling exactly But they open coal for coal for plants like crazy exactly which are you know Part of the energy that's going into making the solar panels that are shit to cross the ocean to make these people feel good It's true. It is true It's wild. I mean, it's just wild Compending it's wild, but I mean this is the problem with a government handling something versus the private sector if the private sector handled it It would have to be profitable it would have to make sense and they keep saying solar is really cheap You know, I said great. So why do we have the highest electric bills in the country apart from Hawaii? If it's also great. I'm not again. I'm not against it. You want to have a solar panel of battery?

2:41:36That's great. You know, I'm not against any of this But don't force it in a way that just raises the cost for regular working people Well, California just loves to regulate they love it. It's part of the big government Todd have you seen to just the tires the tires? Yes. Yes. I saw it. I was gonna bring that out. Yeah So what is the Let's pull it up Jamie the new California regulations on tires restricting the kind of tires you can buy Oh, just they keep coming. They can't help themselves That's exactly need to justify all these jobs. There's so much Government, but I just want to give you this is a good example, which is all of these things California regulars approved new rules limiting what replacement tires you can buy for your car So what is the rationale behind this? approved New rules that were restrict which tires you could buy when it's time to replace them in NANOS Vogue California Energy Commission voted to adopt new rules that will phase out the sale of replacement tires that don't meet certain energy efficiency standards

2:42:41Ultimately about protecting consumers I see this as a sheltering the public from higher costs in the long term long run excuse me tire manufacturers and the commission staff are at odds Whether this will add to the cost of living in the state it will Both sides of knowledge this will no longer allow the sale of significant portion of the tires currently sold in California for the market Well, that's 70% there were full so The center of this is a tires rolling resistance or how much energy attire uses as it rolls down the road Lower resistance means a vehicle uses less gas or electricity new cars come with energy efficient tires But consumers typically replace those with higher rolling resistance tires I wonder if that has anything to do with performance cars So You know, I would imagine rolling resistance So rolling resistance what would that mean does that mean friction? Yes, basically, okay So friction is traction so you want more traction so you're basically making people buy performance tires

2:43:43No, the other way around you really yeah the other way around so traction is less resistance It's more resistance maximum resistance is traction The they so if but they want they will allow the sale of tires with a maximum rolling resistance of 9.1 newtons per kiloton Uh, it lowers it to 7.2 Starting in 2033. So yeah, it's making it less traction That's what it's saying right Rolling resistance. I'm not sure what it says what it's what they want is the energy efficient Ensure replacement of tires sold in California are at least as energy efficient on averages the tires that come with the truck So my perception is that a tire with more traction would be morphs more efficient No for driving yeah, but no for climate Yeah, but when you go into the store to buy him you just most people are gonna buy the cheapest thing available They're not gonna right in the cheap the cheapest thing available would have less traction correct I just be the cheapest thing available, right the thing about the

2:44:45The cars like performance tires they don't last as long because there's a softer rubber and the softer rubber grips better And so like if you buy like that's what they want to get rid of that's what they want to get rid of yeah But that but those are the ones that have more traction. That's what I'm confused about That would seem to be more energy efficient in terms of the use of the car Well, that that's what they're arguing it's full But they are you're gonna end up with these there's little ties that don't I mean all the people that want to go off road Or whatever that's what you can you can't buy off road tires and 70% of the Of the tires are gonna be banned that are currently sold that 70% that was one of the reporters at KCR a Ashley's a valvera she's really On all these stories very aggressive she's really exposing all this nonsense And that was that I think her number 70% would then just make new off road tires then yeah, but it wouldn't be as good If how often are you driving off road and you know, well, I'm not But some people

2:45:52Is over you you've got Let's everywhere the highest tax in country businesses are leaving every single day It's a real economic emergency. We have the highest unemployment rate in the country We have the highest poverty rate in the country the highest cost of living and this is what the government's focused on I mean people we got to wake up right? This is insane that they're focused on this they're churning out absolute nonsense the regulations The bureaucracy that this is totally unaccountable. This is some bureaucrat that's discovered a rule Nancy Skinner from Berkley's to represent Berkley Does found this thing in some obscure? You know place that no one had noticed for 20 years suddenly this bureaucratic agency decides to bring in this rule Not no input from the voters, but here's my question What is this impact going to have on like the car market? Like if you sell a car that has a particular type of performance tire that no longer

2:46:57I don't know. I don't know Could we ask perplexity is this referring to tires with more traction or less traction energy doc california.gov Second sentence does unfortunately replacement tires are often often less efficient That's why your mileage drops the first time you replace your tires and the efficiency gap between new car new car tires and replacement tires Means california drivers are paying nearly a billion dollars in additional fuel costs Which is so are these inefficient tires less expensive? Is that what it is? Yeah, I think I'm gonna make sense right? So the more expensive tires are more efficient, which means they would have better traction. Is that what it is? Uh That makes sense right because if it's if if the tire has less traction that means it slips more if it slips more It sounds efficient and you wouldn't get as good a gas mileage But they're they're not they're doing this for climb. That's what they they're saying we need to lower emissions That's what it's all about Because of the use of the good 70% thing is crazy

2:47:57So I guess if you have a it's like it's let's say if you buy like a Chevy truck that's an off road truck Right that those are not efficient tires. So what are you going to be able to get for them now? I don't know. I mean if it's it's it's it's just come out So everyone's looking into this and and you just think and there's no recourse No, they've just well there will be when I'm there because I'm gonna get rid of these people because this is going back to the question earlier Oh, okay benefits of the proposed regulation Consumer savings proposed regulation would save nearly one billion per year in gasoline and electricity costs Right air quality by reducing fuel consumed the proposed regulation we reduce CO2 emissions by 2.0 million metric tons per year which the equivalent of taking 400,000 gasoline cars off california roads would also reduce other criteria air pollutants such as nitric oxide And particulate matter reduced energy demand the proposed regulation we reduce california demand for gasoline by 141 million gallons also reduced demand for electricity by 0.9 terawatts per hour each oh excuse me each year

2:49:06Yeah, okay the following tires are excluded from the proposed regulation minimum performance standards competition tires used for motor sports winter type snow tires all season winter performance tires used and retreaded tires deep tread tires tires designed for ATVs or other off road vehicles a large off road tires For use up to 99 miles an hour motorcycle tires temporary spare tires Small tires with 13 inch nominal rim diameter proposed limited production tires tires sold for use from an emergency vehicle High-load index tires tires not capable of sustaining speeds over 50 miles per hour and space saver tires So it seems like there's a lot of caveats No, this is Because that but look at that like that list again nobody believes that this is about saving money no It seems like they're just wanting entirely their ideology for climate that this is some

2:50:07Bullshit calculation is your world where that makes sense though? We're the right and it will reduce all that gasoline It actually will be better for everybody And you'll force people to make better tires And you know they're just they're they're churning out I don't know quality tires and this this could be mitigated a long time ago Well, I don't know I think that the reaction to it is exactly the opposite which is here they come again Here they come again is real yeah, I mean another thing as I said it's just been announced So we got to dig into it, but I mean it's just to me Such a kind of crazy example of them Endlessly micromanaging every everything Yeah, the market to decide these big big problems California's new tire rule could wipe out 70% of what's on the shelf and Sacramento sat on the law for 23 years So Sacramento did invent a new law on Monday it finally read one it wrote in 2003

2:51:09Okay, I mean it's just if you're 18 day love to tell you what to do Okay, so what California's so they did um, so we did a thing last year They in the legislature remember this is the point about there's no checks no one's stopping anything right in the last legislative session Last year not even the whole year just a few months They passed 1118 bills Counted them we printed them out. It was Double my height Obviously no ones were you know no one can read them use some signs most of them like the vast majority He hasn't read them it has stuff like this in it and No one's paying attention and the and the corrupt System the interest groups that want what they Want from the system they get these bills written and then they get passed and then here you are 23 years later Something that's in some obscure law. That's how it all works and

2:52:10The answer to the question like what could you do about it? It's basically captured in these two things like number one All these agencies that are pushing out these rules It's the executive branch. So as the governor you let you control the executive branch You can fire the people on these boards and you can replace them with people with some common sense and you can actually Merge them you can reorganize them you could cut them back There's a whole bunch of things you could do on the bureaucracy because so much of this is coming out of the bureaucracy Secondly, you you can veto the legislation and the point is always made if they have a two-thirds majority They can overturn a veto that's correct But the last time they overturned a veto from the governor was 1979 So they don't like doing it because suddenly they have to justify all this shit that they that goes through without any scrutiny if you veto it they have they can if they want to overturn it suddenly they have to make the argument and so much of what you get In California, you just goes through that anyone noticing that's the real

2:53:14corruption in the system oh, and so the other thing I'd say is that The you also write the budget the governor writes the budget and send it to the legislature And then you have to negotiate But again, you know if you take out all this waste and you know, we just announced last week operations zero waste cancel funding for high-speed rail cancel free health care for illegal immigrants all these things that we said we do how much has been spent on that high-speed rail So far total 15 billion oh, that's a bargain. So the total got a lot done though, right? Okay, so that was so it was It's both 2008 it was supposed to be 30 billion the total budget And it's supposed to be open in 2020 and it was two and a half hours from San Francisco to LA. So the latest is It's gonna be open maybe if you're lucky by the end of 2030s It's gonna be the new budget from 30 billion. It's now 230 billion right

2:54:19The plan as they laughably call it is the first bit is San Francisco to Merced at the top of the Central Valley on the regular train line that's already there and then Merced to Bakersfield is the high-speed rail and then Bakersfield to LA a bus Bus Have you heard that that's real it's real That drive from Bakersfield to LA which I've done a lot is through the great already congested as fuck right You can take that can take two and a half hours. Yeah, if you're unlucky So this is what it's and It's so 130 billion for that billion and then Basera My pun he went to Fresno the other week he announced that he would That he would finish it on time and on budget On time was six years ago On budget they've spent 120 million dollars ago. Okay, the total the budget was 30 they've spent 15 and they've not laid any tracks

2:55:24Gavin it's classic Gavin it's more almost my favorite he did an event because obviously he's running for president He doesn't this is embarrassing. He wants to sort of shape the narrative so he did this press conference somewhere there With trains in the background to make it look like this is a real thing And they haven't laid any track and there's no plans to lay down any track But he was standing by tracks to sort of I think make people think there's tracks And he even he the phrase that he used was To announce that we are now entering the track laying face Faze that could be another 10 years It's so ridiculous and then you're gonna have to get a bus and the bus. It's real that is the plan And then so why is that because the just logistics they can't get the train through the mountains. Yeah, that's it So you have to have a bus. Yeah, I mean, oh they they I don't actually know what the Long-term plan. I can't believe that's the Whole idea. I think that's just what's gonna be available says. It's just like the most tunneling has to happen on that part

2:56:28So maybe they're just waiting I think it's a long day. It's not that eventual so there's a more tunnels This is it would require the most tunneling of the mountain crossings with four separate tunnels to like 28 miles in length How much of the nature across the San Andreas fall which is the biggest problem? Oh, you're better than a cross on earth quick How much of nature is gonna get destroyed in the production? But who even wants this I mean tunneling through mountains that the other thing is so I spoke to someone who works with the Elon Musk you can check with Elon So he said that you could do the the you know the boring couple like you do a tunnel the whole thing for five billion now I don't know if that's true, but um It's this is such a you know It's such a monument to the whole thing right yeah take the money waste it spend it on nothing Endlessly delay. How come Gavin's not running again He can he can oh he did two terms. Yeah, yeah, it's so crazy and you've got this

2:57:29pretend this is what's really they've just a video that someone found of him talking in 2015 when he was lieutenant governor About what a joke the whole thing was yeah on speaking very honestly about it Yeah, and It's kind of funny and ridiculous. Oh look at that. He says that then now he says But it's actually infuriating because they're still taking the money to pay for it. They're still pretending And they're taking money out of the The funding like I said comes from this thing called cap and invest which is the gas tax Just insane. Steve. I hope you win We've got to wrap this up bring it home, but I hope you win. It'll be fun. Yeah, it'll be it'll be hilarious if you win Great. What job do you want? We'll have you do something. I don't even like going back to California. Well, okay. The only reason I'm doing it is that you move back I know it's too good here. I love it here. I love it here. I can see that. I really hope you win Thank you, man. I think you have a chance. I really do

2:58:31I mean you make you make a lot of sense and that's a lot in this in this day and age It's a lot you're also actually a good guy like I know you You're an actual good guy. You're not like some weird lizard person You know what I mean like there's some Yeah, I do I've met a little insect comment. You are who you are you you you are really you I could attest to that I know you like I've known you before you had any political aspirations. You the exact same person There's a lot of these people that are just skin suits. There's skin suits over lizards. There's lizards in there Whether metaphorically or physically they're fucking lizard people and that's that's a real thing All right, so I hope you win you can come to my inauguration. I will just come just that commit to that. Yeah I'll come if you win. I'll come all right. All right