Julia Molchanova on Escaping Jeffrey Epstein’s Cult-Like World (Part 2) (9/8/26)

0:00Dave Roberts here. There you are surrounded by fans, sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you until a few days later. At 2am, you wake up with the fever and your throats on fire. Now what? Urgent care? Close. ER? Slam. Telehealth? Maybe. But the pharmacy's closed. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions, use for over 30 common conditions, sinus and ear infection, UTIs, stomach bug, travelers diarrhea and more. On hand before you need them. Use your doctor-developed guidebook to select the right prescription or call their telemedicine doctor standing by. It's like an urgent care and drugstore at home. When you're sick, traveling or stranded, you'll wish you ordered a medical emergency kit. Order online in minutes and it's shipped to your door and say $45 with my promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. That's promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue.

1:01What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're picking up where we left off with the Wall Street Journal article that was authored by Kedija Safdar. And the headline of this article, how one woman was caught in Epstein's cult and escaped. It was like a cult. Malkanova eventually moved to New York and started following Epstein's advice, hoping she'd break into design, but no fit education materialized. A spokesperson woman for fit said the university is continuing to investigate references to the school. And it's not the only person we've heard about fit from multiple people. I believe Yohanna Schuberg told us about this as well. And I think we've heard about it from a couple of other women who said that this was the carrot that was dangled. And obviously the vast majority of these women were strung along by Jeffrey Epstein over the years. Over time Epstein expected her to become an assistant, though there was never

2:06any real work and his advice turned into a set of rules. She was supposed to thank him constantly, act happy, and be friendly to everyone. While those were the rules, right? Epstein had a very strict set of rules for his assistants, and I honestly don't think it's a stretch to call it a cult. And Jeffrey Epstein really knew how to manipulate the situation. And he knew how to tell these women exactly what they wanted to hear. And before they realized it, they were in too deep. It was like a cult, she said. Aside from coercing the women into sex acts on a regular basis, Epstein also expected the women to bring them other women. She and other victims have said, and that's where things get a bit forny, right? Who was a trafficker? Who was trafficked? Who was coerced? And who was brought in on it? But you have to understand that was all part of it, the confusion. So that later on down the road, when this conversation started happening, like it's happening now, he can say that they were all involved. Everybody was in on this, not just me,

3:08everybody enriched themselves, even the women. They weren't being abused. And the sad truth is, there's a whole lot of people who bought that nonsense. You know, the people who called us a hoax, the people who attacked the survivors, they bought it hook-line and sinker. And Epstein knew they would. This man was a master of misdirection and narrative building. That's what he excelled in. Because she didn't bring anyone, Malkanova said his anger intensified towards her, and he would constantly ask what she was doing to make herself useful. She said on a few occasions, he sent her to her room in his home to stay in isolation for multiple days. Oh, you're grounded. A grown-ass woman. Go to your room. Don't come out. Say, what now? Why not? Well, you wouldn't bring the other girls to molest. You wouldn't feed the beast. So you have to be punished. Go to your room. What a sick, disgusting, vile, human being. And I use that word loosely.

4:10And if anybody ever deserved a trip to a volcano and get shoved out of the helicopter above that active volcano, it's Jeffrey Epstein. Malkanova said Epstein kept tabs on her spending. She remembers receiving less than 3,000 a month from him, but said the amount fluctuated. She said he dictated what she wore, how long her hair would be, what doctor she visited, and whom she spent time with. Document show that Epstein arranged for Malkanova and another woman to marry one another around 2013. A tactic the journal has reported to use with other women too. Immigration fraud. That's what they were doing. I mean, you have to really have your head in the sand. Not to understand what was going on here when it comes to immigration. It was one of Jeffrey Epstein's most potent weapons. And he also dangled it as a benefit for these women. Oh, you want to come to America? I got you. I got the hook up. I got a scam. I got a hustle. We'll say that you're married to so-and-so. You'll

5:12come to America. That'll be that. And if it wasn't for Virginia and turg going absolutely scorched earth on Jeffrey Epstein and his bitch ass associates, hardly any of this would be in the public eye. And I think people should keep that in mind. And remember that. Look, Virginia wasn't perfect. None of us are. But I don't think anybody who's serious about anything is ever going to question her courage. In 2014, Epstein's lawyer, Darren Indike, helped form a company registered under her name called JSC interiors. She said Epstein passed it off as a way to help her launch a design business. She ran a couple of design related errands like arranging flowers and then Epstein used an account associated with the company to move money and make transactions without her knowledge, she said. Oh, yeah, little money laundering here, little money laundering there, little malfeasance, all good, just a regular morning for Jeffrey Epstein. But no crimes were committed, folks. Nothing to see here. Unless you have videos, we don't want to hear it. I guess that's where we are.

6:17No crime can be committed, unless there's a video, and nobody can be held responsible for their crimes either, obviously. Just say you're a little crazy and fuck it. You're all good. I still have so many questions about what the company was because no one ever explained it to me, and I wasn't allowed to ask questions, she said. It made me super scared because I couldn't understand what I was responsible for. Yeah, that wasn't the point, though. The idea is she was a beard. She was a frontman or a front woman for whatever bullshit Epstein was up to, just another way for him to funnel funds. So my question is, did any of Leon Black's money find its way into any of these accounts for these girls? And if it did, congratulations, Leon Black, you're part of the conspiracy. Oh, that's right, they didn't charge him with Rico. Silly me. That's only for Italian people, I guess. Maokanova said she only found out years later, and that Epstein's activities in her name went beyond Bank of America, including the spending she discovered from the credit monitoring app

7:21and a furniture order for nearly $40,000 that she recently found in the Justice Department files. In a statement, Attorney Thurin Dyke and Epstein, account Richard Khan, said Maokanova, never informed them she was a victim of abuse or trafficking. Julia appeared to be one of Epstein's assistants working through an LLC that Epstein set up for interior design purposes. The statement said, like, they don't even believe that. Okay, that's the cover. The fact that we're letting them get away with that is bananas. Indycan Khan should have been charged with Rico a decade ago. But somehow they're still protected, somehow they're still running the estate, and somehow they're still going to benefit from whatever's left over in the estate. Does anybody else see a problem here? Because as far as I'm concerned, these two dudes should not get one single penny, and instead, they should be facing indictment. Both Khan and Indyke recently told Congress they didn't

8:27facilitate or know about Epstein's criminal history. Maokanova said Epstein's control extended to other parts of her life, and once she tried to date other men, he dictated what she wrote to them, and demanded a full account of everything that passed between them. Of course, gotta get that intel, right? Gotta get that compliment. That was part of it, too. The design work never materialized. Instead, Epstein centered a Faith Kates modeling agency next management for a job interview. In May of 2015, Kates told Epstein that Maokanova said she didn't want to sit at a desk all day, and had never worked in an office. Epstein berated Maokanova for not asking for a front desk job. You told them you were going to school and didn't want to work at a desk, he wrote to her in an email, I am angry. God forbid, God forbid I don't want to go work for Faith fucking Kates, sit at a desk all day, and do God knows what. Dave Roberts here, there you are, surrounded by fans, sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers.

9:31Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you until a few days later, at 2am, you wake up with the fever and your throats on fire. Now what, urgent care, close, ER, slam, telehealth, maybe, but the pharmacies close. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits, they contain essential prescriptions used for over 30 common conditions, sinus and ear infection, UTIs, stomach bug, travelers diarrhea, and more. On hand before you need them. Use your doctor-developed guidebook to select the right prescription or call their telemedicine doctor standing by. It's like an urgent care and drugstore at home. When you're sick, traveling, or stranded, you'll wish you ordered a medical emergency kit. Order online in minutes and it's shipped to your door and say $45 with my promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. That's promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. In a statement, next management said it had never had a relationship with Epstein.

10:31Faith Cates multi-decade long personal relationship with Epstein was completely and absolutely unknown to next management and its top executives. It said, I have my doubts about that. So nobody had any idea? Nobody ever said, hey Faith, what's the deal with that Jeffrey Epstein guy? Why you spending so much time with him? Nobody ever said that? Nobody ever, huh? These people, they truly believe you're stupid. Cates didn't respond to requests for comment. After the Justice Department released some of her correspondence with Epstein, Cates said in late 2025 that she was retiring from next management. Oh, I'm sure she is. God forbid she has to answer questions, right? Now she can say, look, I have no comment. I don't work for next management. Blah blah blah. But what those emails reveal is a very very tight relationship. And my question is, what did Faith Cates know? And when did she know it?

11:32Epstein also placed Maulkinova in internships arranged by his friends, including a stretch she describes in turning for the publicist Peggy Siegel in 2016. Maulkinova said she felt out of place, held back by her limited English. If he really wanted to help, he would have sent me to learn English, she said, instead it was all a bunch of nonsense. Siegel didn't respond to requests for comment. She previously told the Journal that she was unaware of Epstein's nefarious behavior and it was a mistake to associate with him. I had no idea. What do you mean, Jeffrey Epstein was a sick degenerate? Nobody ever told me that he was a derelict? Those years took a toll on Maulkinova's body and her mind. As her weight fluctuated, Epstein criticized her and called her fat. At her lowest, Maulkinova said she was thinking about suicide and Epstein didn't let her see a therapist. Her mental health declined further, she said, after a tabloid in 2016 ran photos of her with Epstein.

12:33I remember thinking that I'm trapped forever, and my life is over. Yikes. Imagine feeling like that, like you have nowhere to go, no one to help you, and nobody's listening. I can't even imagine. And thankfully, that's something that I'll never have to experience. But does that mean I shouldn't have empathy for people that did or do, and that goes for anyone who's involved in human bondage? Whether that's Maul, female, child, whatever, and whether that's sexual, or physical labor, or whatever it might be? I can't believe I need to say this, but in the year 2026, slavery shouldn't be a thing. In 2017 Epstein's lawyer handled the paperwork for her to get divorced, and she describes the years after that as an effort to just get out. She had a serious boyfriend that she hoped she could marry to escape Epstein, but Epstein kept summoning her back, and the abuse continued. She didn't tell her boyfriend what was happening, and they

13:34eventually broke up. Who wants to tell their boyfriend? Hey, look, this guy makes me come over and do all kinds of unseemly things. Who's telling their boyfriend that? Now, maybe if it's somebody you've been with for quite some time, but some guy that you're trying to build a life with, nobody wants to say that. They don't want to be judged and looked at like they're less than. In early 2019, Malkanova finally confided in a friend about how in Snarechy was in Epstein's web, and that person gave her a roadmap for getting out. It lettered to send emails that March to Epstein's bookkeeper asking why the credit card she didn't recognize were showing up on her credit report. The bookkeeper responded that the report was showing the balance of Epstein's entire American Express account, and that she would have Malkanova removed from the account. Malkanova told Khan the accountant that she wanted to see her tax returns, and that she wanted to be removed from JSC interiors. Khan wrote back that since she was uncomfortable, she could hire another accountant

14:39to handle her returns, and that he would send paperwork she could sign to exit JSC interiors. Yeah, God forbid, Khan does the right thing. Well, well, we'll find somebody else for you since you don't trust me. Yeah, bitch, I don't trust you because your boss has been molesting me, and abusing me you dumb fuck. What do you mean I don't trust you? God damn right, I don't trust you. Around that same time she sent an email confronting Epstein. He invited her to Palm Beach, but she didn't go. I thought for sure at that moment someone would find me on the bottom of his pool, if I did go, she said. Leslie Graf Epstein's long-time assistant texted her, trying to get her to call Epstein. She also began getting calls from another young woman in Epstein's orbit, despite the outreach she never went back. In a statement lawyers for Graf said she performed administrative tasks for Epstein and had no knowledge of Epstein's crimes while she was working for him. I don't believe that, and I've told you that from the jump. I think Leslie Graf is lying. Now look,

15:41I can't prove that. I'm not going to sit here and tell you she was abusing people. But I don't believe her story. Not for a minute. Long before her escape, Malkinova gave Epstein the co-name Mishka, a Russian term that translate loosely as Little Bear, from a popular song that describes a bear who was a criminal. In June 2019, she made a painting depicting the bear being arrested and decapitated. She never imagined that on July 6, Epstein would be arrested, and that a few weeks later he would be found dead. And Julia's story is just one of many. And I think that as we move forward, and we see more people like Julia telling their story, it's going to open up the floodgates, and there's going to be other people that step up, and tell us just how deep their abuse went, at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein. And like usual, we'll be here for every single step and every single story, as we continue to swim through the muck, looking for that clarity. All the information that goes with this episode can

16:46be found in the description box. Dave Roberts here. There you are surrounded by fans, sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you until a few days later. At 2 a.m., you wake up with the fever and your throats on fire. Now what? Urgent care, close. ER, slam, telehealth, maybe, but the pharmacies close. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions, used for over 30 common conditions, sinus and ear infection, UTIs, stomach bug, travelers diarrhea, and more. On hand before you need them. Use your doctor-developed guidebook to select the right prescription, or call their telemedicine doctor standing by. It's like an urgent care and drugstore at home. When you're sick, traveling, or stranded, you'll wish you ordered a medical emergency kit. Order online in minutes and it's shipped to your door and say $45 with my promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. That's promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue.