Julian Dorey REACTS to Joe Kent & Iran's Oil Chokepoint Strategy (Kharg Island)

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When it comes to these people, you do.

All right.

Again, this is September 2014 with Kathy Rummler.

Jeffrey Epstein, you need to talk to boss, and I'm going to tell you immediately that

is referring to Obama when you see these emails back and forth.

Rummler says, agreed, but I need to be prepared to say yes before I talk to him.

Don't know what that means.

Epstein understood.

It comes down to high-risk slash reward, slash low-risk, reward, professional, emotional,

and financial.

So, they're trying to convince him to do something, or convince him to not have heard

to do something because she said, like, I need to be prepared to say yes.

Rummler, most girls do not have to worry about this crap.

Again, you see, like, they're very conversational, buddy buddy, you know, like, tongue in cheek.

Epstein.

Put that in quotes.

Careful.

I will renew an old habit.

This week, Teal Summers, Bill Burns, Gordon Brown, Jacqueline, Council of Europe, and Nobel

Chairman, Mongolia Press, Hardee Puray, India, Boris Gates, referring to Bill Gates,

like his guy, Jaboor, Qatar, Sultan, Dubai, Kaaslin, Harvard, Leon Black, Woody.

You are a welcome guest at any, so he's referring to all his meetings that week, and that

is a who's fucking who, obviously, no pun intended.

Also if you think there are interesting people in town, everyone here for climate summit,

Clinton, Security Council, holy shit, I'm on redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted

for next 30 minutes.

The fact that he says that the front of that email, girls, careful, I will renew an old

habit to a woman, no less, to anyone, to anyone, yeah, but to a woman working in the

White House in one of the highest positions, talking, I mean, it is not a secret, it's

open.

Let's go to the next email, Kathy Rummer, unfazed, doesn't look like you are prioritizing

your schedule very effectively, so she totally ignores that reference.

But she saw it, like we all did.

How are you going to manage all that?

This is un-go-week, so the boss will be in town too.

I'll be here all week.

You may get sick of me, just sat down on the train so can't talk freely, wouldn't want

to talk to the pedophile on a train and have people be poking around on that.

Train?

Epstein replies, yes, I will be like the emergency room doctor at Lennox Hill, put that crazy

in room one, gunshot in surgery, and the quote, cook, unquote, well, he can wait.

I don't know what the fuck that means, but that's just weird.

She says, yes, trains exist, people ride them to get from one place to another, germ factories,

however, DC today, back in New York on Sunday morning, reads guy went down on all seven

counts.

That's the next email, so she follows up seven hours later, it's on the same thread.

She goes, reads guy went down on all seven counts.

I don't know if this refers to Reed Hoffman, but this is from September 19th, 2014, so maybe

some sleuths out there can Google around Reed Hoffman friend convicted seven counts.

Maybe we can actually do it right now, see if we can find that.

But Epstein replies, and that's after turning down misdemeanors, which, you know, he has

some experience with this, obviously, at this point, whoops, there it is.

So then she goes, yep, and now he is a repeat offender.

I mean, this is, she's talking about this, like this was a guy they were trying to keep

around.

And now I really fucked himself because he's a repeat offender, sounds like it's someone

you shouldn't have been associated with after the first offense, or maybe before that.

But he goes double, Epstein replies double whoops at the repeat offender.

Go now.

Rumor goes, yeah, we will now go through a period of self-reflection and despair to

which Epstein replies, Reed or governor.

Rumler then said this gets weird.

I don't know what governor he's referring to, but he, she says, guv is not Jewish.

He then says, of course not.

He wouldn't have been so stupid.

Rumler replies correct one time, maybe twice, no way, meaning don't worry about being convicted

or raped and stuff like that, just don't get caught.

That's what she's saying.

Again, lead attorney for the way else.

Epstein free now, I guess, telling her that he's free to talk.

Rumler says, I think I should do it.

Epstein says, let's see how you feel Sunday.

So that's again referring to that meeting with the boss.

She says good advice.

She then says, I don't want to give up my apartment in New York.

Going Epstein says, no need to call Eric and get a data point.

Keep going.

I will the rent on the apartment is significantly more than the monthly salary

referring to hers.

Epstein says, how much and who pays now?

Rumler says, I have so much more info to tell you on Sunday.

Epstein says decision, easier, harder, more complex.

Referring to that same thing they were talking about.

The front Rumler said, and I guess this is after she had that meeting.

Both harder and easier he was there because this is now at 830 that night.

So they've been talking throughout the day and having hours, long breaks,

while they're doing shit in the middle.

Epstein goes, I assume that means harder to say no.

Easier to say yes.

Rumler says harder to say no for sure.

Epstein says, try to get a good night's sleep.

See you Sunday.

Rumler says, I will try and then sends him an email in the middle of the night.

Did you read David Brooks today?

Okay.

Referring to the New York Times column this day, but he is such a close advisor to her.

He's also floating the whole when they're talking about her salary.

She's a government employee at the time.

So this is going to get, I'm thinking off the top of my head here, Dave, maybe I'll mess

up my legal ease.

But if she's on a government salary and can afford the rent and she's telling that to him,

is that a suggestion of like, hey, maybe you can help me out there, which I think is

illegal.

Oh, yeah.

Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because she's not an elected official.

She's someone that works and goes on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

For no, for sure.

I'm just smiling because I'm like, yeah, on top of the bear barrage of illegal shit going

on.

Dude, they're talking about a rapist and basically saying it's a shame he got caught instead

of like, it's a shame he's a rapist.

I think that's what the context was, correct me from wrong.

It sounds like that was a context of rape charges who's seemingly related.

And some way to read Hoffman, but we only have a read there.

So it could be a different read, have to say that.

But he's also clearly advising her on high level White House things.

If the boss is not Obama himself, which it really appears it is, that would be my best

guess.

It's someone very high up in the White House because she was extremely high up in the

White House.

And he's just hoping they're again, they're talking on a regular fucking email server about

serious shit.

And that one was certainly a little coded as well.

But the whoops thing is weird.

It's not a convictable kind of thing in a court of law.

But it is weird and it is certainly, certainly sinister.

All right, D for real quick, I got to run into the bathroom.

We're going to come back and we're going to talk Joe Kent and get back to some Epstein

stuff after that as well.

But we've got to talk Joe Kent, Iran and Korg Island.

All right, we're back.

So one of the big news points this week was Joe Kent, the director of the National

Counterterrorism Center, resigning from the administration and doing so in a resignation

letter that he published to his Twitter than on his Twitter alone has over 100 million

views.

And when you count screenshots that were posted all over the internet, I mean, this thing

has been viewed all over the world because to state the obvious here, the timing of such

a resignation is quite interesting, given that we are in the midst of an Iran war that

at any moment could no pun intended explode into something far, far worse.

I will say this is definitely the most concerned I have ever personally been at Global

Chaos in my lifetime, even with COVID, you know, I didn't have anything to basis off of

because I was the fourth thing for a doctor or a virologist.

I remember when that happened in my head, even then, like at the very beginning, well,

we knew nothing.

I just had the idea that like, all right, this is not good.

You know, some people are going to die, which is tragic, but we're going to get through

this.

This is going to be all right.

This is actually something that, you know, crazy to talk like this now with it, but

as some of the, can you night the world?

Maybe I don't think I was very right about that.

But, you know, it didn't feel like a world ender to me.

And I'm not saying right now that this is a world ender.

What I am saying is things that I have previously in my lifetime taken for granted, such as

the use of nuclear weapons and a domino scenario, potential with that, you know, maybe there

have been some closer calls in my lifetime.

Obviously, there were certainly close calls in the 60s that we know of and even the 50s.

But like, maybe there have been sometimes where I could have been thinking about that or

that we never knew about.

But as far as like having it in your conscious and being a regular citizen and thinking

about this at my house, right now, like, or at my apartment, like wondering what this

could be.

It is actually a thought.

And that's not to be a fear monger or anything like that.

I would like to think cooler heads will end up prevailing here because as we're going

to talk about with some context, this might be one scenario where the dollar sign always

running fucking people's opinions might not be the worst thing in the world, you know,

that is what these fucking people who make these decisions in back rooms respond to.

And so maybe, maybe that will help.

But when you have a guy as high of a position as Joe Kent, who is, I believe in 11 tour

of duty, green beret, special forces guy, is he green beret or army ranger?

I just blanked out.

I want to make sure I get that right.

Yeah, it's a green beret who also, you know, green berets do this a lot like they'll

end up working with CIA on the ground because they're known as being excellent at making

relationships with people on the ground.

We've had Johnny motherfucking Glenn.

That is his nickname in here to talk about that in episode 300 and I believe 304 where,

you know, he was a long time green beret and he talks a lot about like their skill set

on what they're known for there in that department.

So you got a guy who has seen basically the entire global war on terror.

That was his era, his own wife, he's a gold star husband, his, his first wife was killed

in Syria as a part of the global war on terror.

This is a guy who understands from a first person perspective in every possible way what

this looks like over there and what the domino effects are to use that term once again.

And what the implications are.

And when you have him who was a very, very confident, excited endorser of the current

administration prior to them winning the election in 2024, when you have him so publicly

stepping down at such a critical moment like this and then going out of his way to immediately

begin the media tour at the time of this recording.

He's already talked with Tucker Carlson until about about a minute.

Our friend Scott Horton, as well as Crystal and Saga.

I think there were one or two others he did and he's going to do Sean Ryan on Monday.

A couple of days after this comes out so like he's going out there.

He talked to it.

I think a Catholic prayer breakfast this morning, I'm going to play some of that video in

a little bit like he's going on a tour to get the word out.

And I guess stand up for what he believes in and there's always going to be people who

see this another way.

Think it's suspicious.

Think he has an agenda.

He's looking for attention stuff like that.

I don't know.

I need to see a play out.

But what I can tell you is I listened to the entire two hours he did with Tucker Carlson

the other night.

And I thought it was brilliant.

I thought Joe Kent came across as a measured, principled, calm, collected in some ways

anti-drama, fact-based, evidence-based individual.

Does that mean he's right about everything?

No.

But he did not come across in any way to me as a liar.

Don't just look in a scream at the top of his lungs and get everyone panicking like

crazy, even though what he is talking about here certainly has high stakes.

That's why he allegedly, like why he left the office.

But moreover, and I'm going to get to his letter in a minute for people who have not had

a chance to read it.

We should go through that.

Moreover though, his letter, which I will read again, was very critical of the influence

of the Israel lobby in prosecuting this war and in his opinion, pulling us into the war.

So a lot of people, especially on that issue, it's very controversial, people online, or

you know, the people who support Israel and the people who are against Israel fucking

go at each other all day.

And I certainly have my problems with their government right now and I've been clear

about that.

But and the actions they've taken in Gaza, which is a genocide, I've also been very clear

about that.

You have to call things what they are doesn't, doesn't matter if they're someone who's

listed as an ally of the United States, which I don't think they're a good ally at all.

I could go into that all day.

We're also talking about a guy who worked for them, who's a fucking serial rapist, sex

trafficker, arms dealer, insert blank here in Jeffrey Epstein.

So that's, that's a whole separate rabbit hole.

But you would have thought he would have gone on to Tucker Carlson's show, especially

Tucker who's a friend of his who is very critical of Israel.

I think right justly so in a lot of ways, but, you know, certainly we'll go really,

really far with some of those opinions.

You would think Joe Kent was going to come out and just be like, yo, fuck his real

fam and just go guns blazing.

He managed to, while being critical of the Israeli lobby influence and being critical

of some of the intelligence sharing that goes on there and being intelligent sharing

huge air quotes and being critical of their role in decisions being made and being critical

of the influence they may have on the White House.

He managed to do it in a very sober, calm, educated, professorial way.

More so than even Jeffrey Sachs, who I like a lot, who literally is a professor at Columbia,

like very, very fact-based.

And he probably even would have pissed off a lot of the anti-Israel crowd by putting himself

in their shoes multiple times throughout the interview.

He used phrases and a paraphrasing here because I want to make sure I don't get it wrong

because I don't have it in front of me.

But he would use phrases along the lines of, now if I were Israel, I would see it this

way too, or I would look at Iran this way too, or they have every right to look at Iran

this way as it relates to them.

He wasn't just going in there as I think the crowd that hates him, the very pro-Israel

crowd would have wanted him to, which was thrown his middle fingers up and saying, fuck

them.

He was doing it in a dignified, like he was putting his points out there in a dignified

way that also saw some things strategically from their perspective, while juxtaposing that

with the perspective of the United States and the United States government, which is elected

by us and tasked with advancing our interests in the world.

And also tasked with carrying out the promises that any administration would have made on

the campaign trail, which they're not doing with this war to be very clear.

And we covered it in episode 393 when I had the monologue at the end of that, you know,

where you have the Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,

both huge, huge fucking long time APAC donor receivies, by the way.

You had them both on the same day at separate press conferences a couple of weeks ago, admit

out loud that the U.S. got into the war because they knew Israel was going to attack.

And therefore they were going to get blowback.

So to minimize casualties, make less, they felt like they had to get involved in the war,

which means Israel was dictating what was going on here.

And I remind you, this is a country that receives billions of dollars in funding from us,

which can't also laid out very kindly and objectively on the podcast and screaming

them.

But what he said is, if we are giving you billion dollars of funding for your defense

and we are helping you as your ally and you are relying on us, we do get to dictate

what you do, especially as it pertains to the use of our military for force in any region

around the world that may not be in our best interest to the United States.

And it needs to be made clear to a country like this, who is listed as an ally, that we

dictate how this goes.

There is nothing wrong with what he says there.

That is in any relationship, remove the names, remove the fact that these are countries

we're talking about in any relationship that occurs.

That is how it works, okay?

If you run a fucking company worth a billion dollars, you're the founder and CEO.

You're paying some guy to manage, I don't know, one aspect of the company.

Does he get to tell you how you spend your money and where you put all your resources?

Fuck no.

If he does, he's gone.

These are welcome.

And I get to say if I'm that CEO, I like it or I don't.

If I like it, let's do it.

Great.

If I don't, we're not doing it.

That's all Joe Kent's saying.

And of course, he's taken a lot of flack, like I said, of course people are going to be

like, oh, he's an intention, we're doing all this stuff and I hope none of that's true.

He doesn't strike me that way.

Never has.

I got, you know, he's a very conservative guy.

I got some political differences with Joe Kent.

I'd heard him not all of it, but I had seen some clips of him on John Ryan show back

in 2024 when he was on that and like, you know, he's, he's got his perspective on things.

That's great.

But like this is a American issue right here.

We're talking about our guys going over there and we've already seen caskets come home

and flag drape coffins.

And Joe Kent has earned the right in every possible way to know a lot more about that and have

a way bigger voice in the matter than someone like me or any of you out there who haven't

served those of you who served that say the same thing as it relates to him.

But like he's got a damn well right to discuss that and discuss that with fervor.

And he obviously stuck it out.

He didn't resign before the war started.

He didn't resign a day afterwards like he tried, but this.

It had reached a point where it was clearly out of control.

And you have to remember Donald Trump, I don't say this is a shot, this is just a fact.

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So yes, he's very entertaining in doing it.

There's no doubt about that.

That fucking, that Pearl Harbor one the other day was killing.

That was one of the funniest, I almost shit myself when he said that in front of the Japanese

Prime Minister.

He didn't tell me that per hub, okay, like that was fucking, that, that was crazy.

But privately, there have been a lot of reports and I believe them that he's flipping the

fuck out about this because, you know, there's been a lot of reports that, for example, they

warned him about Iran being able to shut down the straight of Hormuz.

And that's what happened.

And now he's upset about it.

We're going to talk about that in a few minutes as it relates to Carg Island.

You know, he also literally campaigned on no war in Iran, specifically like it, no wars,

but like no war in Iran.

And like, I guess broken clocks right twice a day, Kamala Harris in her lines on the campaign

trail said, elect Trump, you're going to get a war with fucking Iran.

Yeah.

Hey, got to give it to her.

She got that one right.

You know, so when you see that, it is very disheartening.

Because objectively, when you look through the last administration to say nothing of

the fact that Biden wasn't even alive for all four years, just unelected administration

in charge.

You were talking about an administration that gaslit people on mass, gaslit people on vaccines,

gaslit people on Ukraine, gaslit people on censorship, gaslit people on Afghanistan,

gaslit people.

I mean, the list goes on, gaslit people on gender, the list goes on and on.

Lies and lies and lies and lies and lies.

That is objectively what it was.

And as it pertains to this war, I see no difference between Karin Jean Pierre and Caroline

Levin, the press secretary for Biden and the current press secretary for Trump.

It's lies.

She lies like she breathes.

It's like a redox to, I mean, Jean Pierre was just fucking, I mean, it got to the point

where it was hilarious.

She would lie like a mattress every day and Levin's doing the same thing.

And right when Kent did this resignation, she went right into mode.

She got caught.

She said like the day before and it was screenshotded and everything.

She said, Iran poses no imminent threat to the United States.

And then response to Joe Kent's letter the next day when it comes out, Iran does pose

an imminent threat to the United States.

Get the phrasing, right?

If that's cool, D if I want to make sure I don't mess that up, I'm sure people can help

me in the comments with that.

But like, that's a lie.

And to defend Caroline Levin and Karin Jean Pierre, you know, they're putting a position

where they're told what to do, I guess, in that job, but quit the job.

Don't the Karin Jean Pierre wrote a book about it afterwards called like middle ground

or something.

Why she's not a Democrat anymore?

Don't do that for three, four years.

And then be like, yeah, no, I totally disagree with it the whole time.

But I was happy to keep doing the job.

Like you know what you're signing up for.

And then if it's way worse than that, maybe leave the job.

And let it, you know, she should think about that.

You got your whole life in front of you kid, what's she like, 28, 29?

Like this is a very bad look, very, very, very bad look.

And so I was impressed with Kent.

His letter.

I want to make sure we read that on the record again.

A lot of you have seen this, but can you just pull that out?

I already got it.

These fucking on it, bro.

I don't know how you keep track of all these fucking links.

I give you like 70 million links and come on, son.

I'm Chinese.

No, I'm organized, you know, I just keep everything flush.

So this is from Joe Kent and the resignation of Trump.

President Trump, after much reflection, I've decided to resign from my position as director

of the National Counterterrorism Center effective today.

I can out of good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran, Iran posed no imminent threat

to our nation.

And it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful

American lobby.

Three things there.

Number one, 10 years ago, someone ever says that publicly had never heard from again.

Number two, congrats on him for putting that right out at the front.

And also apparently he had a private meeting with Trump where he discussed the resignation

and said this as well to his face, which I really appreciate that.

And number three, once again, because Joe Kent has been on record about this in the past

and he made it clear again, I believe the other night with Tucker, no one, including

Joe Kent, is saying the Iranian regime is in any way good that they're not tyrants,

that they don't kill their own people, that we wouldn't love to see them all gone

yesterday.

That is not what people are saying here.

What someone like Joe Kent is saying is that the world is a really fucked up place and

it's complicated.

And there are third, fourth, tenth and hundredth order effects of things.

And as much as you want to be the police and help every fucking person who suffers around

the world, and trust me, if you got a beating heart out there like me, you want that

too.

That is not the reality.

Give you an example.

Why don't we invade China because they're killing the Uighurs?

Because it's not smart.

I hate that they do that.

It bothers me.

They do it to more than the Uighurs too.

They do a lot of fucked up shit over there, but you can't just go invade a fucking country

with a 20 trillion plus dollar GDP and how even if they're lying about it, however many

fucking hundreds of millions of people they have, that's not how it works.

So with Iran, yes, bad regime, yes, never should have been put in charge, yes, I hate

what they do to their people.

Yes, I have advocated publicly for their people to overthrow that government forever, including

publicly since episode 129 with Jim fucking lawler back in December 2022.

Probably did it before then too, but that's the last one I can remember at the beginning.

Like yes, all these things are true.

That doesn't mean you go prosecute a war with them because there are odd alliance, odd.

There are fucking strategic alliances here that are domino effects.

Again, I think that's a fifth time I've used that term that can make shit a lot worse.

And as we're sitting here, we are sitting, we're going to pull up this MPR article in a minute

to discuss Carg Island, but we are sitting here dangerously.

I don't want to say on the break, I don't want to, I don't want to overly fear Manga here.

I'd like to think we're still not at the cliff side, but we are slowly walking the

plank towards the cliff side of a global economic crisis.

If we allow the, like the largest place in the world where oil is fucking getting moved

to continue to be moving at a standstill mind you settling any oil deals they do in Chinese

currency rather than dollar, which hurts that that's a whole, I don't even want to get

into that.

We've got problems and smart people force all these problems, people of average intelligence

force all these problems, but our government's acting like they didn't foresee these problems.

And now they are deploying Marines to the area.

And also when I do have to say this, when I see Phexeth or as, oh my God, what's that

dude's name?

Kurt Mills, I think his name is, shout out Kurt Mills.

As Kurt Mills has called him Crystal meth Rumsfeld.

I think that's a perfect nickname.

I hope I got Kurt's name, right?

He's on Twitter, but he was the one who coined that.

I thought it was fucking awesome.

When I see Crystal meth Rumsfeld get up there and you know, drop some fucking bar that

he thinks is like Wu Tang clan, ask whatever it is for the day.

Like you see the one the other day where he's like, we're sharing the ocean with Iran.

We gave them the bottom half.

Like you know, he wrote that down and like looked himself in the mirror was like, fuck

you.

God damn it.

That's fucking great Pete.

Go get him, Higgs.

And then come out there and say this stuff and then use the lives of the service members.

We've lost to say, or we've had a chance to talk with all the families and they've all

told us to finish the job.

When there are literal news reports of families, I'm not saying this represents all families,

but at least some of the families talking about how this was quote, totally unnecessary.

And a war that I posted the video on my Twitter, you can go find that post it multiple times.

One of the airmen who died, the family went to the local news like, what the fuck?

They created a, you can't just go create a war.

It's unfair.

And they're like, other families are suffering too.

You know, some of these families feel that way.

So don't propaganda is their deaths like that.

I mean, it feels like George Bush 3.0 here.

All right, I got a real problem with that.

And I do think in the commentary, I've seen like from Joe Kent so far, there's no one

who has more respective reverence for that than him.

He's lived his wife died.

Let's go back to this letter.

So I left it off where he started in the second paragraph talking about Israel and its

powerful American lobby.

He then says, I support the values and foreign policies that you campaigned on referring to

Trump in 2016, 2020, 2024.

And you enacted in your first term until June of 2025, you understood that the wars in

the Middle East were a trap to re, were a trap that robbed America of the precious lives

of our patriots and depleted the wealth and prosperity of our nation.

That's true.

In your first administration, you understood better than any modern president, how to decisively

apply military power without getting us drawn into never ending wars.

You demonstrated this by killing Kaseem Soleimani and by defeating ISIS, which is something

that Joe Kent had supported in the past, including back when it happened in January, 2020.

And that's something I've been critical of, Kaseem Soleimani was a terrible guy.

I mean, it was a terrible guy, world's a better place without him.

But that was at the time a risky move where Iran ended up bluffing.

So it worked out.

But I was like, why are you poking the hornets in this?

You know what I mean?

Bad guy, help fund terrorist groups, not happy, not upset these dead, but like, it's not

that simple.

That one worked out.

What about the next one that doesn't?

Early in this administration, high ranking Israeli officials and influential members of

the American media deployed a misinformation campaign that wholly undermined your America

first platform and so pro-war sentiments to encourage a war with Iran.

He's referring to the Neocons, effectively.

This echo chamber was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posed an imminent

threat to the United States and that you should strike there with a clear path to a swift

victory.

This was a lie and the same tactic the Israelis used to draw us into the disastrous

Iraq war that cost our nation the lives of thousands of our best men and women.

We cannot make this mistake again.

As a veteran who deployed to combat, to combat 11 times and as a gold star husband who lost

my beloved wife Shannon in a war manufactured by Israel, I cannot support sending the next

generation to fight and die in a war that served no benefit to the American people nor

justifies the cost of American lives.

I pray that you will reflect upon what we are doing in Iran and who we are doing it for.

The time for bold action is now.

You can reverse course and chart a new path for our nation or you can allow us to slip further

toward decline and chaos.

You hold the cards.

It was an honor to serve in your administration and to serve our great nation.

So first of all to respond to people like Mark Levin and the very pro-Israel American

media who's called this out and referred to his anti-Semitic and stuff, Alan Dershwitz

did that as well.

He called Joe Ken a neo-Nazi.

I tweeted about it.

A neo-Nazi, Jew hating something, something that's that's defamation.

There's nothing like that in here.

Jews referring to a lobby that is a legalized lobby, specifically a pack who he does not

mention my name, but lobbies that represent the interests of Israel who provably with a

lot of money have encouraged foreign actions here.

There is nothing wrong with pointing that out.

He is simply reading us fucking spreadsheet.

Oh, you got to do is read the money.

There's nothing anti-Semitic about that and fuck you for fucking saying that it is.

You are only showing more anti-Semitism across America and other places by doing that.

And sometimes I really, as I've said before, I wonder if that's the point.

It's gross.

You can disagree with him.

By the way, if you're Mark Levin, you are free to disagree with Joe Ken and Alan Dershwitz.

You can try to beat him on the facts here.

No problem.

But don't do the labeling shit.

That's beneath you.

And like, honestly, I know Mark Levin and Alan Dershwitz and those are two guys in

picking on because they were publicly saying things like this about it.

I know intellectually they're smart guys.

Okay, that is below your intellectual line and you know it.

So stop it.

But this was a big deal to see Joe Ken do this.

And there was one clip I had in there that I texted you, Dief.

You got it ready?

So this was, I guess, yesterday where Joe Ken went and spoke at some Catholics like

breakfast or something.

I'm not really sure what it was, but I just want to play a minute or two with us.

And before I do, Dief, can you find a clip type in Scott into Twitter, Scott Horton,

Joe Kent, Syria or ISIS?

And you'll find it.

It's a minute or two.

You got it.

Okay.

So I'll let you find that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we'll have that ready.

We're going to play two things right here real quick.

Let's start with the first one.

Well, this decision to follow your conscience, give us a little back, sorry.

How did that happen?

Without getting too much into detail, I just did a long form podcast with Tucker kind

of laid out the entire politics of the issue.

But look, after serving 20 years, mostly deployed to the Middle East, fighting the

wars over there and just seeing how our country had been lied to and brought down the wrong

path in those wars and that we were getting sucked into another one and that the American

people didn't have the full story and our country did not have a vital national interest

in this current fight.

I said, hey, I'm in good conscience can't do this because that was a promise I made to

myself probably 20 plus years ago when I was deployed to Iraq.

Once I realized after my first couple of deployments that we weren't there for the reasons

that our government told the square, therefore, I said, if it's ever my turn, if I'm ever

an adult in this situation, I ever have a position of responsibility.

I will not in good conscience send young men and women off to die on foreign battlefields.

Okay.

Poison right there.

That's all I mean, measured, did principle.

I don't see why again, you can disagree with him strategically.

This is America.

We can't discourage even if it is something that a lot of us feel strongly about, which

is like we don't want to see another war.

I know I feel strongly about that.

I certainly have some bias in that department.

It is a real red line for me, but like we can disagree diplomatically attack him on evidence

and merits if that's the way you want to say don't attack him on labels that are bullshit.

Now here's the clip with Scott Horton because in the letter Joe Kent refers to when his wife

Shannon was killed in 2019, he refers to that as a war manufacturer by Israel.

His wife was killed in Syria and the entire Syria situation.

He actually laid that out in a lot of detail with Tucker, I believe, I hope I'm remembering

that right.

But this was a nice snippet right here from our friend Scott where he kind of again,

without any prejudice or even anger and talking about his wife fucking being killed by the

way, just lays out what the logic on that is.

Let's play.

Leaving Iraq in 2011, it was evident that we basically handed over Baghdad to the Iranians.

And so the Israeli lobby said, hey, this is a major problem because now we basically have

a Iranian super highway, a land bridge that goes from Iran all the way into Syria through

Iraq.

This directly supports Hezbollah's efforts against Israel so it was a major problem.

And so we had basically tipped the balance of power in the region over to the Shiites.

So then the derriere war in Syria was launched because half of Assad and Bashir al-Assad had

always been long time friends with the Iranian support of the Iranians helped support Hezbollah

and Hamas from Syria.

And so who do we rely on as our proxies inside of Syria?

Well, it was by and large, the Sunnis and the most radical elements of the Sunnis.

There was the Free Syrian army and there were some so-called moderates.

But the guys who were out there and really aggressive against the Assad regime were members

of al-Qaeda and then eventually members of ISIS.

ISIS got so out of control that we eventually had to go back into Iraq, back into Syria,

largely re-enpower a lot of the same Shiite militias that we were trying to take power away

from in order to take out the ISIS caliphate.

That's where I lost my late wife was fighting the ISIS caliphate in toward-

Okay.

So effectively, again, Bashar al-Assad, this is stories all this time, bad guy.

No one's arguing that he was a good guy.

No one's arguing that.

If they are, I would disagree with them.

He's a bad guy.

But problem for Israel in their opinion and so they want regime change there.

They have us get involved with setting up basic, I mean, it was insane.

It was like Mad Max, it still is in Syria.

But it was like Mad Max, it was where there was like 1700 different groups fight each

other at some point.

I mean, I, you can't even wear uniforms, you're just shooting your friends.

You don't even know who you're shooting.

You know, it was just insane what they set up there to create an untenable situation.

The economic sanctions came in, turned into a narco empire because that's how Assad basically

had to fund himself.

Maybe Warx covered that before with me.

I want to say we did that one in episode 198.

It could have been episode 261 though.

I think it was 261 because that was December 24, right after, right after the regime change

thing was like going on over there.

So might have done it both either way, like that was not in our interest and you see,

and that's a quick explanation from Kent right there.

But it created a bunch of other referberating effects in the region that then like one thing

leads to another, which leads to another.

So when he says his wife who tragically lost her life in 2019 and bombing in Syria was

in a war that he felt was manufactured by Israel again, you can disagree with that.

But like there's some evidence there to say like this was in the interest of Israel to

create a severe problem in Syria and have the United States being built.

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And again, we're paying you, you're not paying us.

So like fuck actually, let me crack one thing there.

If you're paying our fucking congressmen and politicians, that's a separate issue.

But like a country to country, we're paying you.

And I understand Joe Kenz problem with that.

Now, Carl Gailan, which I've referred to, this is something Trump actually was on the record

talking about.

And I believe 1988, saying he would take the island, Trump's always loved the oil.

Do that what you will.

Obviously, the oil is a very important thing, but it's not as simple as just like taking

islands from other nations, including nations that aren't that are run by bad regimes, which

Iran certainly is.

But Carl Gailan is interesting because, I think in Arabic, they say, cock, cock.

But I don't want to be disrespectful and fuck that up.

So in the English language in my American dialect, I'm calling it Carl.

Carl Gailan is located not like in Hormuz, but inland, like more towards Northwest, I guess,

up the straight.

Maybe deep.

You can pull up a map real quick.

And it has been responsible in the past for up to 90% of Iran's oil.

How do you say this?

It gets a little confusing how you do is oil productions.

I guess the better way to say it is exports because there's a few things here.

Number one, oil tankers can actually dock around the island because the water is deep

or I believe that is towards the land.

Correct.

So it's a strategic location from a logistics perspective.

It is also located very close to a bunch of huge offshore oil rigs that are responsible

for a lot of the oil that Iran has access to.

And it is the high, it is a storage facility where they bring other oil, not just from

those rigs as well.

And then it's like the hub where then it goes out the straight when it's not fucking closed.

And around the world and it's responsible for maybe over 20% or something like that

of like the global world oil exports or whatever huge, huge place.

Now, March 13th, I want to say Trump bombs the island.

He tweeted about it in very strong way or true social about it that he left the oil refinery

or oil storage plants, pipes intact and bombed all the military installations there and

threatened to bomb the oil pipelines, which is a huge problem because he even set it in

his, in his, maybe you know, maybe he's playing tough guy here.

I, I hope that's all it is.

But if he did that, he would inherently decapitate the future of the Iranian economy regardless

of who's in charge for a long time.

He said that in his true social post, he'd decapitate it right there, which okay, regime

goes away, maybe after that in some way, when a bunch of other things happen, if that's

how it played out and that was it, well, now whoever takes over is taken over an economic

crisis and people can't fucking eat just like now and they're going to be pissed off and

who are they going to blame?

And now they're going to look at America, they're going to look at Israel.

And I'm going to get that China gets a lot of oil from there.

Two China gets a lot of oil from there to happy, which by the way, China had a spokesman

come out like a week and a half ago.

Because again, like they're allied with Iran, but if there's one thing that's been interesting

and all the stuff that's happening against Iran in the past six years, if you go back to

Soleimani, they haven't gone out of their way to come in and do anything on behalf of their

ally.

China uses Iran for their oil, not saying this can't change and I concern, I'm concerned

about this changing, but they don't seem to have a lot of respect for Iran.

There's one, make sure that oil keeps flowing.

That's where you're right, deep.

This could get bad, certainly, but like when Iran was responding to all the attacks and

the start of the war by bombing US bases in the other Arab countries in the Gulf, China

called on them first to stop bombing.

Now they've called on everyone to stop bombing.

I saw that.

But at first it was just like Iran stopped bombing and I'm like, well, thank you.

Okay.

Cool.

But interesting that they started there.

If you wanted to propagandize an entire fucking generation and if you wanted to piss off

the Gulf states, which we can't get into that today, we'll have to do our own other

podcast.

That's a whole rabbit hole.

Piss off the Gulf states more than you already have.

Yeah, bomb the oil fucking pipelines on Carg Island.

Watch what happens.

No season for the United States moving forward.

Watch what?

Okay.

Economically, maybe if you didn't destroy the place, that would be a huge boon in the short

term.

But what does that do from a propaganda perspective for the next two, three, four generations?

You're playing right into the Dick Cheney playbook.

It's not as simple as like just go be the empire and fucking take, take, take.

How did that turn out for the British over time?

Not great.

We should know something about that here.

And I know it's not, it's not that simple.

I do my best with this stuff to at least look at it from 30,000 feet in the air and say,

okay, choice A, choice B, choice C, choice D.

Yes, there's really fucking 40 million choices right there.

But if you could amalgamate a bunch of them into one, two, three, or four, that's what

you're looking at.

And with this one, I see a lot of reverberating effects that could come out of that.

And it just, it feels completely unnecessary.

So at the moment, of course, based on everything I've heard shout out to Joe Kent for standing

for principles, I'm going to look to see what he does moving forward.

Looks like he's going on like every fucking show.

So you're going to get a chance to hear from him in a lot of different contexts.

I know Saga and Crystal were dropping one yesterday.

So you know, and it sounds like they talked with them about some different things that

hadn't been talked about in the other interviews.

But check out Scott Horton's definitely check out the one with Tucker as well.

Because it was certainly impressive, regardless of what you think of Tucker.

I don't know.

People have different stances on him to the extreme out there and whatever.

But like, Tucker did a good job and it was a very, very informative sit down.

And now I'm going to be watching to see what happens with Tozie Gabbard because, you

know, she's a lame duck.

Yeah.

I had already gotten and fucking everyone on the internet with half a source had already

gotten in the past four weeks that she's basically been kicked out of the decision room.

To this point, we knew it was confirmed back when the Venice, when the Venezuela strike

happened that she was not allowed in the planning rooms for that.

I don't think that's exactly a great endorsement of your fucking head of intelligence.

But that's just me.

And now one of her ultimate stances over the years over the past decade and a half, which

was no war with Iran has been broken by the administration she works for.

And she put out a statement that really sucked to see the other day, basically like supporting

the president.

But very interestingly, never support saying that it was his, the way she worded it, it

was his, the president is the one who determines the threats and has the authority to do that

and makes those decisions.

And that is what we stand behind.

She never said, though, we determined the threat to be nuclear.

We determined the threat to be that.

She was very, and like, we know they don't have a nuke.

All the intelligence is pointed to that.

Perhaps with the respect of, with the exception of the intelligence, Tel Aviv decides to show

the United States to get them to do what they want us to do, which Joe Kent talked about

in that interview with talker.

So it's going to be very interesting to see if Tulsi Gabbard stands on, on principles

there.

She's in a tough spot because if, here's why I say that, even before Joe Kent resigned,

now there's already been someone who beat her to it.

That doesn't help.

But like, if she stays, she's cowering below the principle.

She's always claimed to stand for at the moment with something that's a big deal.

It's a big red line for her.

If she goes, people say, oh, she was just finding the politically useful track to, you know,

resurrect her career and change sides or whatever.

And now she cut and run at the heart moment.

It's a tough spot to be, but I do think the better choice if this does not resolve

itself.

And if she can't truly help play a role in helping this resolve itself so that lives

around the world, not just our own here in America can be salvage, global economy can

be salvage.

And the world can be pulled away from the brink of some very potentially dark shit.

If she can't help with that, get the fuck out.

Leave.

I'll support you doing that.

I think, I mean, I have so many variables here, but based on what I'm seeing right now,

be fair.

Yeah.

She's always been the one that's like supposed to be totally against it.

So put your fucking money where your mouth is.

That's right.

Now I said we do it at the end here, so let's do it.

Peter Teal and our friend, Jeffrey Epstein, there's been people starting really dig through

the files there.

First of all, there's a video, if I love this one, the first one where I have it confronted.

Our Teal gets confronted on the street, but this dude, walking like a villain, I gotta

say it like that.

He kind of looks like one power walking, if you will.

And a guy comes up to him asking about the Epstein files.

Here we go.

Comments at all on the Epstein connections.

Nope.

You were meeting with him?

He's walking.

You think he's just counting the lines in front of him?

People are waking up to what you're doing there, sir, and that's why we're here covering

this.

Somewhere in Europe.

Yeah, he did that in Rome, close to the Vatican.

All right, that's good right there.

But good citizen journalism, he was respectful, kept his distance and asked questions that

the guy wouldn't answer.

We're talking about a guy who threw the files of what we know so far gave like somewhere

in the neighborhood, Epstein gave somewhere in the neighborhood of like $40 million to

was talking with a bunch beginning in 2014 all the way up until a month or two before

he was arrested, that being Jeffrey Epstein in July 2019, and who clearly, we've talked

about the target that Epstein clearly had on Elon to try to get him, Teal was another

guy.

He had a clear like, oh, I got to talk to him.

And it's interesting to hear Whitney Webb, the longtime researcher of the Epstein case

and things beyond it as well, who as I said last week has been very vindicated by a lot

of things in these files for sure and deserves a ton of credit for her books, One Nation

or Black Male, Volume One and Volume Two.

There's a lot of things that are provably seemingly there's in there there on them.

But she's talked about this in some recent interviews.

I've seen on clips on Twitter where she's like, there's no need for an Epstein these days,

which could open up a whole rabbit hole like I did.

They finally say, well, we don't need him anymore.

Maybe, but she's like, there's no need because you have a company like Palantir, which

can just do everything that you used to need a human being to do.

So look into your tech data, suck up everything about you and be the big brother, if you

will.

I don't know if she used that term, but like that's what she's describing here.

And of course, with Peter Teo, we're talking about the guy who founded that company.

So interesting to see Jeffrey makes such a leap at him and also get his buddy, ex prime

minister of Israel, a hood baroque, we've played that tape on a previous episode to learn

all about this company back in the mid 2010s and try to get a spot on the board, like trying

to wield their influence.

But you already got it up here, deep.

This was a tweet I put out a week or two ago.

Just, you know, like a lot of you, I always use that term 30,000 feet in the air, but

you try to zoom out and you try to just see like the paper trail.

Just like the headlines, the money and without going all the way down this estuary right

here, trying to figure out every tree that's back there and all the way down this one over

here to do the same thing.

Just look at the river itself and say, where is this motherfucker flowing?

And when you see headlines from across what was this across a three year period, something

like that three to five year period, first one's 2017 Peter Teo advises the president

while Palantir plays shadow CIA.

That's from the beginning of Trump's first administration.

Next one, 2020 May 2024 Peter Teo invests in polymarket political betting platform, but

the future gambling on elections remains unclear.

So they're trying to get everyone to gamble on everything in society.

And this is while he's also playing spy shadow spy chief with his new company and cosying

up to the, to the administrations about it.

Next one from August 2024, the U.S. will very likely fight a three front war against

Russia, China and Iran.

Palantir's Alex Carp says, I remember I did a live on that back in August 2024 and I

fucked up the audio.

So we never got to keep it up and everything.

But like Alex Carp, who's a seemingly crazy person, the CEO, Palantir, certainly comes

across that way in clips, you know, that New York Times, I believe it was.

Go file on him, which was really the first of its kind at that time.

And now you see him everywhere.

That's very interesting.

Very interesting.

They just like suddenly really came out of the shadows and kind of astroturfed himself

and do existence.

That was a very telling expose about his psychology, who he is, what he's about, what drives

him.

And now you can see a lot of videos of him talking.

And here it is.

Well, he's certainly an unbalanced individual.

But to call something like that and be in the moment we are right now a year and a half

later that sends a little shiver up my spine.

Next one.

Deep.

All right.

This is from Wired in September 2025.

The real stakes and real story of Peter Teel's anti-Christ obsession.

So let's review here.

We got him set up a shadow CIA, Palantir.

We got him setting up investing into the gambling infrastructure, which has really gotten

out of control.

And I support legalized gambling, but like everything else seemingly, it's almost like

there's a deeper Trojan horse there going on.

But he's investing in the gambling side that involves politics, which also, you know,

Harkens back to, I don't know, September 11, 2001, when some certain people were betting

on stocks, airline stocks ahead of 9.11, surptitiously, you got to wonder if now when we

see all these weird trades about predictions in the markets where people are making millions

of dollars an hour before something happens, you got to wonder about the people in charge

of that infrastructure.

Then you got his CEO talking about a three front war that would effectively be East versus

West where the Ron is the proxy in the middle and fucking China and Russia on the other

side a year and a half ago.

And here we are.

And then you got him talking about the anti-Christ, going around and giving lectures in literally

the shadows of the Vatican itself about what that is and, you know, not a great PR look.

But I see things like this and I see a guy who's off to say the least, to say the very

least, and who seems to have some longstanding, not great ties and who, you know, for as

smart as he pertains to be or it claims to be, talks about weird shit with Jeffrey Epstein.

Can we pull up the secret society one?

Yeah, society.

This is an email from February 6, 2016 and it's and someone someone puts whoops as the

caption.

But February 6, 2016, Jeffrey Epstein wrote Peter Teal loved all caps loved the secret

society idea.

He has done a lot of work on the concept all failed so far and then redacted response

with a smiley face and says, let's do it.

Done a lot of Peter Teal is in the builder bird group.

He's done a lot of work on the concept all failed so far.

What were those concepts?

What was he like?

He's just like, no, we're gonna, we're gonna, um, you know, uh, um, well, we're gonna,

we're gonna soft launch it.

Um, he always looks like he just snorted an eight ball the night before too, like his

eyes, uh, his eyes under his eyes, like he's just been drinking and doing below all

night.

Yeah.

For a guy who has apparently like such crazy health standards to the point that like

his assistants send out all his dietary requirements.

I don't believe that.

I just can't believe like, and like he looks unhealthy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like minus his face.

Like he looks in shape.

But like, exactly.

He, his, you look at his face and you're like, you're unwell.

Yeah.

Like actually, you're sweating.

But there was an article that Bloomberg put together that I might bends that for you

archive.is that had a lot of interesting tidbits on it.

They've been digging through the files as it pertains to teal and they reach out to

his people for comment.

One of the things teal, and they all seem to do this, put out there through his spokesperson

was that he was never on the island was never there.

And apparently there's emails of him and Epstein going back and forth because Peter teal's

like afraid of mosquitoes was worried about mosquitoes on the island and Epstein claimed

he's never felt a mosquito there in his life because he had the island like, de-something

for very weird, but you know, mosquitoes, vaccine, that's a whole rabbit hole right there.

We're not going to go there.

Well, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Ticks, man.

You see about ticks.

Oh, yeah.

Does he have an agent?

My buddy Jay has been saying that for a long time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now, another one where there's a there there.

But where Peter teal does not as far as I could tell in this article, correct me from

wrong, deny going is or a ranch.

He doesn't deny going to the mansion.

There were at least upwards of 10 meetings that included a 2015 meeting with a bunch of

big accolades that I think that one had Elon Musk in it as well.

But don't quote me on that.

You know, what I also found in the article was that they were discussing what, you know,

to me appears to be some sort of like insider trading about what was at the time of private

company.

This is where that's above my legal pay grade.

I understood what insider trading was for public companies.

That was like a part of, you know, what you learn at a bank like, okay, you can't do this,

can't do that.

But private gets a little weird.

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