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Just how big a factor was travel prep in SF win? Plus, Andy Baggarly on flourishing youth in SF minor leagues

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In Hour 3 Jonh Lund touches on the Rams' decision to play in Australia and how it may have affected their performance, as well as the 49ers' ability to adapt and thrive in the challenging environment. We cover the game's key moments, including Brock Purdy's impressive performance and the 49ers' strong defense. In addition, we welcome Andy Baggarly of The Athletic with a preview of young talent currently flourishing in the SF Giants minors.

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Just how big a factor was travel prep in SF win? Plus, Andy Baggarly on flourishing youth in SF minor leagues

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This is Jorva! Chevy is called the heartbeat of America for a reason, and Silverado keeps its rhythm. You feel it in the Turbo Max engine with Best in Class Standard torque, and available Z71 off-road packets that keeps you rolling when the road turns rough. And the most functional truck bed with Best in Class Cargo space, they're trucks that work as hard as you do, so you can do more of what you love without missing a beat. See your Bay Area Chevy dealer today. Based on latest competitive information, it excludes other GM vehicles. Hello, hello. Happy Friday, by the way. I mean, I don't even know if I said happy Friday to anybody. It is a happy Friday because dominance by the 49ers in Australia from start to finish from the decision to go there early to the way that they interacted with fans. The NFL has to be thrilled, and I don't know why the NFL didn't have the Rams going earlier, not from a competitive advantage just to embrace all straight. It's even supposed to be by the way, it's supposed to be their region. I don't know how the NFL does that, but since 2021,

it's been a Rams region. Yeah, it was not Rams house. It was Niners through and through. So from that standpoint, Kyle's decision, the organization's decision whoever gets most of that credit, whatever science person they listen to, absolutely from start to finish, they dominated the dominated the entire week. And it did not stop last night, slash yesterday, whatever it was, they dominated. Brock Pretty through an interception. The sportsmen ineduhr bead really moved a little more conservatively in the World of Women. And so it was pretty cool that pickup. The 니ndes got up early 73 from that point forward. It was a hemorrhous dominating was Fred Warner. It was pretty thrown the three touchdowns. It was pretty with his legs. It was not over using Kristumina Kathy. like, okay, he's getting too many yards before even contact, but not huge. Just in every way, shape and form the 40 and I was nominated. I'm rewatching the game in the studio here.

The only thing, Tung just went down. That's going to be a big one to me because, because George Kiddell is coming back. The one was struggling. That's more, you know, you want to open your Christmas present and see what it is and you have to wait. You know, hopefully it's not too big of a thing and we'll break anything in there for you. When and if we hear something about De Shon's tripling is they're still coming back. That's huge, but they've got a ton of wide receiver depth as you saw last night and you even got more of Christian Kirk. It's healthy. So yeah, I want to see struggling. You want to see struggling. Is it going to change their trajectory in the season? It is not. So I don't know if there's anything outside of those two injuries that you could say that you like, but it had just this or that. I think you'd be nitpicking. And then we do have to acknowledge that the Rams were idiots and they didn't go on time. They didn't go early, but it's not going to overshadow what the Niners did. If I said that was 1%, maybe it was 1%. They looked sluggish. They looked lethargic, but I'm going to give most of the credit to the 49ers, but also acknowledge it at the same time that that was a dumb thing that the Rams did. That's just how it is.

So give me your thoughts. 808 KmbR 415, 808 KmbR or 5 627. However, you want to contact the show. You can text the show. You can hit us up on the whom a guest line. You can hit us up in the YouTube chat as well. However, it is most convenient for you. Let's do that. All right. So hit us up in the meantime. We got some more sound to play for you. Here is Christian McCaffrey. And look, this just goes to the entire weekend. It was going to be like this, whether the Rams got there earlier or not. But Christian McCaffrey was amazed at all the fans that showed up in Australia. Yeah. I felt like a home game. Australia fans were incredible. The songs during the game. Yeah. I know it was great. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. I mean, it's just it was all red. The only thing I could say about the stadium was they did look like it was far away. You know, I was like, wow, because it's a cricket field. So it's a little bit different. So the effect of the fans on the game. I mean, you could hear it when something happened. It was a Niners crowd, but it was it was a bit far away at a couple of friends that went to the game that that showed me pictures from their seats. I would have been pissed. Like I would have been like, I paid what for the what? But yeah, that's

something that again, that's not on the Niners. But yeah, Niners fans again, Faith will show it out. Here's Christian McCaffrey again. This is interesting. So he got a haircut. I mean, it's called something that he is often called probably throughout his entire athletic life. But that there's some of the translation is different in Australia. So here's Christian McCaffrey to tell you about it. I was getting a haircut. I was getting a haircut today a few days ago. And one of the barbers looks at me and goes, looks cracker. I was like, sorry, what you saying? I don't know what I don't know what it meant. I guess that means it looks good. But that was funny. He said it again. I hear that every Sunday. So if you're cracker in Australia, it doesn't necessarily mean you're a white person. It just means that you look good. I guess that's what it is. Right. So the barber gets a gentleman and goes, you look cracker. And he's like, call me a cracker. And he's like, no, no, no, what are you talking about? Not a saltine, not a white person. You look dashing. I guess that's what it is. Right. You look good.

That's what it is. So there you go. Uh, Christian McCaffrey looks cracker. You could tell that to a lot of people today. Walk around. You look cracker and just see how people react to that. But there you go. And then finally, here's a little Fred Warner. The day's on love, uh, lives. I guess days on love still lives. And by the way, some people were saying that Noah Eagle had said days on when you're talking about days on. So days on struggling days on love. He didn't say, I went back because some people were texting. He called him days on like days on love. And it's like, no, the john struggling days on love. Somebody asked Fred Warner about his a teammate, days on love. And here's what Fred said. What type of teammate was days on love? I don't know. What was this going? He going somewhere with a great teammate. I'm my best friend. No, I seen him. He pulled some of me looking at a story. I'm like, what the hey, why you pick me to photoshop the tag on there? I'm like, man, come on now. Why not you?

Hey, right. I'm not true. And then I got people tagging me like, oh, Fred, it's all the story. He just fabricated his whole life. You think that that's the one real part of what he posted. Right. Oh, that friend looking at his stuff. Crazy. That is crazy. That is the pivot podcast in Fred Warner. Just reiterating that yeah, all the stuff he said, like, why it in Fred's right? Because like people were like, well, so that parts true. Like, what do you mean that parts true? It's not true. So anyway, there's Fred on the pivot podcast in there. Some of your random sound hitting up on the text line. I hadn't gotten to the text line for a while. So there's a lot of different questions that I asked you. I asked you who gets the game ball. A lot of people, by the way, most people are saying Fred Warner gets the game ball. I gave you Fred. We gave you Brock. We gave you Kyle. We gave you Rahim Morris. So you can continue to answer that question, both on the Golden State lumber and show room text line and the Oomega sign. Both of the same. One is a call. One is a text four and five. Anyway, it can't be our four and five eight away five six two seven. So just a few of the people that are saying that, uh, let's see. By the way, a lot of pot. By the way, the Aussie calls very popular. The Aussie national radio calls of those touchdowns. I'm looking at

these just the general thoughts here. A lot of people like that. A lot of people like that, that deal. So that was nice. I'm glad to be rolls out right throws for the ends. I touched down Debo Samuel. San Francisco dominating and Debo leaves them all into the crowd of the pump right end. That those are good. We played all the touchdowns a little bit earlier. So people like that. That was very, very nice. Uh, let's see. Like, for example, four or eight days, I love, love, love our broadcasters, but I could listen to these guys all the time. I could do. And I know, I don't know if they just, if they do it every week and all serious, something because those, I mean, they knew their stuff. I listened to a lot of just the broadcasters. Like, you gotta be kidding me. This is a great point from the five three. I was this the NFL version of LSU versus Clemson LSU be Clemson of Power 4 school by 40 points in the night. I just meet the Rams. Super well favorites by 20. Um, Davos, Sweeney is, is just lost. So it's a little bit different than that. But yeah, in terms of just overall effect, because that was a 51 to 10 game. And everybody expected Lane Kifan LSU to win, but I get your point on that. Absolutely. Uh, let's see,

do you leak, uh, luke, uh, Kekely sound like Randy Cross. Yeah, when he would say something smart. At the end, when he was saying that, you know, there's two minutes, two minutes left in the, in the game and he's like, with the Rams, do this, this and this. It's like, what game are you watching? And he's like, why did they put in Stetson Bennett? Cause Matthew Stafford's, like, they don't want him to get hurt. Are you insane? Uh, this is a great point in here from the two of us as Fred Warner covering Niku and the flat was very impressive. That's what I mean. New school linebackers like Fred Warner, Pukinakua, I'm not even enough to say he's arguably probably the best receiver in the game. JS ends up there, uh, Cincinnati's got a decent receiver there. He's pretty good. Justin Jefferson's pretty good. Like, there's some great ones. But Pukinakua is this combination of, he's not real fast, but he's just, he's strong. He's good. He runs great routes. They shut him down. And for Fred Warner to be able to say, okay, I can cover Niku. I can cover a tight end. I can cover a running back. Oh, by the way, I'm going to fill, fill the gap. He was blitzing early in the game. He punches out the ball right now. He does the peanut punch, probably as well as anybody in the league right now. And he talks great trash in the end. He just, he's just

across the board. Great leader. Never says the wrong thing. I mean, the guy right now, I mean, he's just in that matters. He's the leader of your defense. He wears the green dot. You take that Pukinakua 41 yarder out, which was two missed tackles. One of them. I greenlaw. Yep. Stafford through for 110 yards. On 14 completions. By the way, raining MVP, raining MVP on an offensive score 30 a game last year. Remember what I mean, yeah, it's everybody on the defense deserves credit. I thought Fred was the best player. And you can make the argument that the game ball goes to rehab. I mean, it was that good. Four one five says defense put a ton of pressure on staff for that was huge. Yeah, that's of everything that we've talked about and over talked during this whole time with the 49ers. That was number one of me is how are they going to get pressure? And if you can't get pressure on staff, which he gets rid of the ball so quickly normally that you can't get to him anyway, and they didn't sack him. But stat, you know, sacks, I don't want to say it's an overrated stat because then people are going to go lunsaid stat that sacks are an overrated stat. He's a dope.

I get enough of that already. But what I mean is the consistent pressure is even better. Also had four pressures didn't sack him, but you got it. You know, you get to the quarterback. What was it? Seven quarterback hits, I believe it was. I mean, they just, he was uncomfortable. However, you want to quantify that. He was uncomfortable the entire game. And a lot of that, a lot of that was for he scheme because they just don't have the horses to do it. And I thought a boss was great against the run. That's what I thought. Yeah, Rick from Colfax says if a team passes as much as the 49ers did, something bad is going to happen. Pretty good. Great job. Just had that one interception. 18 of their first 23 plays are you know, he's just trying to establish. He was a lot of that stuff. Do I think someone suggested that the strength and training coach for the Niners be given the game ball just makes sense? Yeah, whoever, look, whoever made the decision, I don't know who made the decision. It seems pretty logical because when they were trying to make logic of the of the Rams, it never made sense. Even to somebody as dopey as me like if the Niners going to be there a week and they're adjusted. But you're thinking, oh my god, they're playing at 10 in the morning. Do

you realize that when you go to the East Coast, you're playing a 10 a.m. game anyway, the Niners do that all the time. And when I worked with Dennis Brown on the pre and post game, I'd ask Dennis back in the day, you know, Super Bowl winner. And I said, do 10, did 10 a.m. starts matter to you guys? Because I don't remember it being talked about very much. He's like, it didn't matter. This round was like 10 a.m. star. Who cares? Okay, we played in New York. It's 10 o'clock star. They they've done that. That's not a big deal. The Rams were playing just basically the second day. And I'm not saying much scientists are knowing any of this stuff, but I've traveled outside of the country barely got back in, but I traveled outside of the country. It's the second day. Like you're just like, oh, you're wiped out and you want to stay up and they tell you what to do. That's how the Rams looked. I'm not taking anything with the Niners, but this is the way they look. Four and five says run D is going to be an issue. At points, it will be. You know, again, I'm not my big picture thought on this whole thing. And we're going to do this a little bit more coming up next. Then we got Andrew Bagley to talk giants about 5050 past the hour. I want to do a big picture discussion with everybody coming up next because they won 27 and seven does not put the 49ers in

the Super Bowl or a championship game or anything like this. But from start to finish, they did everything. Now, everybody's going to be on notice now. Okay, the stuff about the Niners being old and maybe being below the Seahawks, the Rams. You can't go for that. Kyle's too good, too good of an organization too well run, too well prepared, too fundamentally sound, all those different things. You cannot count these guys out. But does this mean they're going somewhere? No, remember, the Niners beat the Seahawks in game number one in Seattle last year. They went 12 and five and that was great. But by the end of the year, Seattle was just they were like racing by everybody. So it means they won the first game. It's as important or very similar to winning the first game in Seattle last year. You know, take all the all the pads entry around of being in Australia and everything else. They beat the Rams. It's huge. They also beat the Seahawks in game number one. I'm not trying to bring everybody down on that because today's not that day. But on a that kind of a thought process, yeah, they still got work to do. But in terms of going over

there professionally and dominating a football team, they didn't dominate the Seahawks. Jake Tungus made a great play at the end of the game against Wolland and he just they made one better play than the Seahawks and they won that game in Seattle, which is tough to do. It's a divisional win in a division where the wins are going to be at a premium. That's a great point. That's what it is. And let's here's the thing. They've got a win in the division, like going through the wild card and being and having to go on the road for every single play. Have a great job by winning in Philly last year. You know, they went to Seattle. They got steamrolled and it was it was as much or more of Seattle just playing great football at that point of the season and the Niners being banged up and all those kind of things. But how about hosting the games here? And I don't think it's had a question. Like this is a really hard division. And if you don't win it, what it means probably is is that you're going to have to just like last year, you would have had to win that game in Seattle and then go win a game against the Rams on the road for both. And what you want to do is say, everything comes through here. Real big difference between playing the Rams and the Seahawks here versus there. Not to mention the win that they

got in week one last year set it up so that they even had a chance to win home field advantage in the final week of the year. And you know, all wins are equal. I mean, it's very valuable to at least be in that position. Now they got steamrolled, but at least they were in the position. All right, here's a deal. Very simple. Hit us up. A to A can be R415 885627, whether you're going to tax us or call us, give us your thoughts. And we've you can continue to answer the poll question is, where does the game ball go? You can go to YouTube and actually vote on that. We can talk about the game. Well, let's widen out the lens just a little bit. Does this change your opinion at all? Or did you completely expect this? Or is this just one game to you? So, yep, it changed my opinion to a certain extent. No, it did not. I expected this out of them. They beat the Rams. They beat the Seahawks last year. It doesn't change anything. How do you look at this game in the big picture? Let's get into that conversation. You can still look at this game. You can still, if I haven't answered most of your questions or at least talked about it, let me know at 88 KmbR 4 and 5 88 KmbR 4 and 5 885627. We'll continue to do it. We'll take a quick break for the giants at about 50 past

ER 55 past ER with Andrew Baggaly, who is absolutely great. And then we'll finish up with a bunch of diners as well. So let's hear from you coming up next big picture. How do you view this game? Fair and biased only here on the sports leader. Chevy is called the heartbeat of America for a reason and Silverado keeps its rhythm. You feel it in the Turbo Max engine with best in class standard torque. An available Z71 off roadpack is the keeps you rolling when the road turns rough. And the most functional truck bed with best in class cargo space. They're trucks that work as hard as you do. So you can do more of what you love without missing update. See your Bay Area Chevy dealer today. Based on latest competitive information excludes other GM vehicles. I am fair and biased and I think this is fair. The Ram suck. Well, they did yesterday or last night

or whenever that game was played. It was in the day. There's an evening time here. It was morning time there. I just know that. Give me your thoughts. We have hit it. We have hit just about everything, but you can jump in as well. If I have missed something, I probably have. We have a poll question the day, which is quite popular. You can go over to YouTube or you can hit us up on the text line. I'll start reading some of those momentarily. Gameball goes to you know how it is. The locker of afterwards and Kyle's standing up there and he's giving a game ball to somebody. Who would you give it to? You could give it to him. Although that's not winning the poll right now. You're at least on the poll, but you can go outside of this if you'd like. Fred Warner, who was awesome. Levin tackles had to punch out. He was incredible. You could go Brock Perdue after the interception. He was dominant. You could go Kyle Shanahan for the whole ball of wax, just outcoached, outsmarted, out everything Sean McVeigh. Or you could go Raheem Morris because everyone is like the defense was awesome. And Raheem Morris had a great plan. And Matthew Stafford looked lost the entire game.

Some maybe lag, but most was Raheem Morris's scheme. So where would you go on that? By the way, one thing I did forget to give the Dibo credit for was first play the second quarter and he gets that long kickoff return. And that's how they got their second touchdown that they threw to Mike Evans. So set the tone for the entire second half. Right. So not only did he get that that touchdown at the end, but you know, when you're going, hey, Dibo's not explosive, Dibo's loss of step. Well, I had a kicker turn that set up a touchdown to the 50 yard line. So that was very awesome. Some in your inner crew can vote. Okay. I'm gonna lose my ass. That's why we use even though this is what we can use. Girdrops pretty much. All right, let's let's give you something to win first. And then we'll get out to the people and get the big picture look on this as well. Let's do this right now. Give us a call at four and five eight nine six can be our that is four one five eight nine six five six two seven. And you're going to win two tickets if you're the random 10th caller. Well, I guess that's not random. If you're the 10th caller, two tickets to see BFC versus racing Louisville on the set on September 20th. Hey, Pell Park. And if you do not win, which we hope

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your lunch that you normally take to your car. Whenever the case may be 12 to one pop is going to be here. So if you hate me, which is very possible, I don't understand it, but it's possible. I'm very online. You'll get pop up from noon to one. I thought you're going to play the San Fran semen and I was going to be very I might get that before the end of the day, but he's going to join me, me from noon to one Monday through Friday. And then he's going to join Merfin Marcus a couple of times a week. They'll get a set time. So you'll know when to tune in for pop. And as well as double pop in the afternoon, you'll have a double pop a pop a family therapy. Something that's, yeah, that's a little call it with dirty work a couple of times a week as well. No, announce those times at some point. So again, both drive time shows and this little old show Ferran biased noon to one Monday through Friday. So it's going to be awesome. So that is the big

news on pop. All right, let's get out to the lines one one other quick thing. By the way, the only other thing that was wrong, somebody sent me this and they're 100% right. This is from Sean Stevenson on Twitter. Thank you, Sean. You can hit me up 24 7365 at John Lundredio. The kangaroo suits at the end. No, no, no, no, no, can we just stop? Can I just can we just stop with Turkey legs and a meat pies and and and kangaroo suits and every single time it never, never works like the player, especially you think Nick Boses put a meat pie in his mouth. You know, body is temple. I mean, I would put a meat pie in my mallet, but whatever I drink a beer out of a shoe, but he come on man, like Nick Bosa couldn't get rid of the kangaroo suit fast enough. What didn't even get in the whipping distance of the meat pie, I stop it. It's it's it's it's uncomfortable. It makes everyone even watching uncomfortable like. Brock is such a nice guy that he put it on. But like friends like come on man, you know, Boses like I'm not playing along,

I ain't having a meat pie. No, we've been here for a while. Stop it. Stop it. Exactly. Like come on man, we played the game. It's over like stop it and Netflix has to put them on in kangaroo suits and meat pies like stop doing that. It's 100% uncomfortable 100% of the time. All right, let's go out to Tom and Lafayette. Sorry to make you you wait Tom. Welcome. Greg ahead. I don't hate you, John. Back welcome back brother. Thank you, man. I appreciate you, Tom. I was shocked. Second half, and Brams just ran out of gas. That's what really hit the jet lag, really hit them because the first half was pretty competitive. But then after that kickoff return, the game was over. Nice punches in with Catherine just took off the line dominated. I give the game ball to Trent Williams. Wow. Garrett could be on a milk cart today. I mean, he he he absolutely zero impact. Yeah, you're right. Trent Williams made sure that that was not going to happen. That's a comparable player. That's a great call by you. I should have thought a big Trent because like you said,

Miles Garrett had as much impact on the game as you and I. He had zeros across the board. Even after the game, he was like, this is the worst game ever ever played. It's like, well, the worst game you ever played, but you were standing across from Trent Williams. That had something to do with it. Yeah. Yeah. Great call, Tom. He's incredible. I just I just I'm hoping the jet lag will can get over the couple days because the good news are playing Miami, which is I think going to be the worst team in the NFL this year. So even if they play 50 or 75 percent, it should still be good enough. But I I doubt that's going to happen. The next toughest game will be Denver and because Denver's got a real defense. I do. And or last year and as PN said, you know, the Rams defense has given up over 30 points last four games. Playoff games and then and then the first game of the year. So they've got some work to do. No doubt. Tom, thanks for the call. Great insight. I appreciate it. Do it again. I opened it up at 415 808 KMBR. He's 100 percent right. I didn't think of big Trent. Miles Garrett might have been tired and all those kind of things. I'm just I'm not buying that part of it. He did nothing. I mean, if Aaron Donnell is there would

be different probably possibly. But again, this is the game. It's not the what if game. Trent Williams crushed him. How about the rest of the offensive line too? All the unheralded guys we talked at length about them not having a left guard. We're like, Oh, who was it going to be a problem? Oh, man, look at this. No, no, no. The best thing you can do, the best thing you can talk about an offensive line is when you're not talking about it because we only talk about them when they screw up or get hurt. It had more catches than sex. Exactly. Miles Garrett had nothing like in the box score. Nothing as much as us watching the game drinking a beer like he knows you're not saying it like it. You have nothing to like it. That's true. He does nothing. And you know, Trent Williams is amazing. He just did that to Miles Garrett. I don't know what he's going to feel like at the end of the year. But it's like, you don't have 40 year old offensive linemen. It just doesn't happen. But if I'm the nineers, it's like, dude, you got to stay like every year. It's like, it was going to replace him. He's going to replace him. They got to get somebody. He got to get somebody. Why? There's no drop off. He just, he just basically treated Garrett like a

child. Like it's like, dude, sorry. This isn't happening for you. Just nothing. That's a great point. That's what I mean. When you can't figure out who to sing aloud because everyone was so great. That's that's that's why the, I mean, the game ball thing is great. That's a great thought. But going off the board, like we've had people calling in going, going completely off the board with it. They're not wrong. Like Trent Williams was great. And I'm just too, too dumb to know if he, you know, I'd got to go back and, I got to go back and watch the tape. Like, you know, see how dominated was. But I just know that if Miles Garrett has nothing across the board in the defensive box score, then Trent Williams was pretty damn good. It's a good preview for next week when we have Tim Ryan on because you know he's going to eat that tape. They probably watched it four times on the way back from Australia. I can't wait to hear what his breakdown is of both offense and defensive one. Absolutely. And by the way, we start the Tim Ryan show next week on our show. So I believe it's, is it Wednesdays? I think we did on Wednesdays, but I don't know Wednesday Thursday, something like that. You got a big bow shut off. It's a determined day and time because we're going to bring Papa back and he's going to do noon to one every day. And then where is

Tim Ryan going to kind of fit in that hole. But we will bring him back and it will be amazing. Man, you know, many stories Tim is going to have from Australia to give us is going to be unbelievable. And after that whole thing, and then Tom who just called bread up a great point, which is they're playing the dolphins. Not that they're not going to take people lightly. Like on the national, are they going to take the dolphins lightly? They're going to talk about that. It's like this team doesn't do that. They're not going to take them lightly. They're going to dominate them. That's I mean, the schedule is late is really hard. Schedule gods early. You get these days off now. They get a rest a little bit. And then they possibly get the worst team in the league. I mean, there's a lot of worst team in the league candidates. Arizona Miami, the Jets Cleveland. I mean, there's a there's a dumpster fire at the bottom of the NFL looking for the number one pick. But Miami's among them. So that's good from the schedule. Gods. All right, let's flip it real quick. Let's hit up our good friend Andrew Baggley and discuss a little bit. Giant's got a great piece on the Giants first round pick. And how quickly he can get to the major leagues in the minor league system and all this kind of stuff. We'll hit that up and then get right

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Just drop in 1-800 gambler. Now here's a ground ball to third by Herrera. Fielded there by Harris and he throws him out at first. And the Giants have swept the three game series from the Cardinals. And they did it the hard way getting the third victory trailing 6 to 1 in the last of the eighth inning and scoring six times all after two were down in the eighth inning. In a toasty Oracle Park the Giants come back. They sweep the Cardinals get a day off and now they're taking on the Padres. Go back some Niners talk after the win. Last night in Australia yesterday in Australia. We're getting to that. But let's take a a detour and talk a little giant. And it's always great to talk to Andrew Bagley from the athletic extra bags and a great piece out per usual and the athletic right now. Giant's prospect Jackson Flora sells hope and half price beer in San Jose play off debut and bag joins his courtesy of the Ume Gasoline. How are you? Yeah, doing good. John,

how are you? Yeah, good. Great piece is always first and foremost. We were having a conversation just before he had Yon and I want to harken back to to Jeopardy for just one second. Why is it? I don't think I've ever asked you this question, but why is it that very smart people you're you're an exception to this rule? How come they don't know sports? Well, you know what they've actually the people have like gone and looked at the data and it's not as bad as you would think. The in terms of like the percentage of sports questions that are that are answered correctly or sports clues. They're answered correctly. It's just sometimes you get a panel with three people who just don't know sports and you know it can happen with other categories too. You know, you get opera up there. You get three people just don't know opera and it just becomes uncomfortable. I remember when I was on there was one I am so bad at anagrams. I mean, it's just my brain just doesn't process them. You know, world's rambles and there was one where there was anagram world leaders and I just and I just almost like I had a blank. I'm just looking at these works,

grambles and the other and you almost I almost thought a few times when I was on the show that I kind of wanted my competitors to ring in because if one of them rings in they gets it right. Well that hey, maybe I knew that and you know for all you know and I just couldn't ring in in time but it's just like it's almost like you feel exposed you know when when the an entire category goes off the board and in the three of us get one of them right. So I remember like feeling a little embarrassed by that one especially when it was Stephen Harper Prime Minister of Canada and it's Alex Trebek who's Canadian by the lectern there. So I actually apologize to him after that show is that really sorry we didn't get to the Canadian Prime Minister. Oh that's funny. But yeah, it does happen sometimes with sports and I mean everyone's I think seeing the one football and Alex is just like okay let's try to back me. It's so good. I'm thinking of the one where they said like fair catch and Alex is just looking at them like in an incredulous fashion like come on we're giving you like the basic ones. That's I guess that's really really yeah go ahead. That's like the drill is the dream scenario for me is to get a show and get two people

don't know anything about sports and I'm just gonna like oh leisurely bring in every time and run the category. You know when when when you're not when you're not picked yet to be on the show you're in the contestant pool. You're in the studio audience watching the other people compete ahead of you and so about two shows before I was on first I'm in the studio audience and one of the categories was ballpark's by address and literally the $600 clue is 24 voting is Plaza. Wow that's not my show but then again if you miss it or you get you're in in time then it's like you know then it's on you for not getting it. Yeah but yeah good terms good memories. Absolutely. Alright let's get to your piece because you know I've talked about Jackson Flora. I mean he's throwing a hundred miles per hour. He's a Bay Area kid. Cal State of Barbara. It seems like he's the perfect guy so you just wrote about him. Just your early returns. It's only obviously one but what are your thoughts on him? Well I mean only two innings obviously

and just one in the time before and this is really just about getting a speed wet letting him experience some postseason baseball. Obviously the winning is kind of secondary to skill development in the minor leagues but the chance for doing a lot of winning in the minor leagues. I mean there are three affiliates or four full season affiliates are more than 90 games. Over 500 come behind and and obviously a nice moment for San Jose. A lot of years the San Jose giants did not have really any of the teams top prospects. Going back to almost like Joey Bart when he was there. So it's been a thrill for them the folks there to have you know Joss work in Zalas, the eastern and is and now Jackson Flora and some of the other players have come through Johnny level to start the year. It's been kind of a thrill for them to have some real high profile prospects and you know Jackson Flora is you know on a pitch count he's only pitching two innings. He's obviously not you know he's a playoff ringer but kind of it's just to get him experience and you know he was a little amped up and I think missed a few arms side but you know he's hitting 97-98 touching 99 without a whole lot

of effort in his delivery and showing he can land two breaking balls for strikes. I think he didn't really have but that's because he was throwing it in Arizona where it wasn't moving as much so you know he just needs to start a little higher knowing it's kind of break more when it's not you know in the desert air. So that's one thing you already kind of figured out just one after one appearance but what was cool is you know he struck out the beer batter and then he literally took his hat off and dothed it to the crowd as he's walking off the bag. It's like wow he's got a little shomin in him so you know you don't expect him to be you know someone who can fix the major league rotation you know in the first part of next season but if he moves quickly you know there's a possibility he could make a debut next year and you know they obviously we know how much the giants need to fix their pitching and he can't be you know the entire answer obviously he's got to be just one little piece of it down the road and and you hope it fall goes right and he can you know throw strikes dependably with some plus stuff then then maybe he can be part of the

solution you know by this time next year. Absolutely Andrew Baggley's joining has got a great piece in the athletic talking about Jackson floor I love that part like you said where he gets the beer batter you know kind of reaches back a little bit for more because he knew it was the beer batter and then like you said doffs his cap that's pretty cool. You know it's huge too because in this ballpark you know we got spoiled there for a minute because obviously you got Linson Kane and Bumgarner just boom boom boom and it's like wow and that just never happens and then since then you've had Logan Webb but I mean in terms of just a you know dominant or or really good starting pitcher when when was the last time they developed one is Logan Webb the last one. Yeah I mean you'd have to look at Logan Webb and and prior to that you know Madison Bumgarner and you know a lot of that is you can't really talk about that run of pitching success without talking about Dick Tidrow I mean he was Brian Sabian's right hand man you know especially after Ned Colletti left for the Dodgers and he really was you know someone who had an eye not only for pitching but but didn't have a

cookie cutter approach I mean you couldn't find four pictures anymore different than Logan Webb Madison Bumgarner Tillinson Kane and you know there's there's a famous story when Logan Webb was brought out to Oracle slash AT&T Park for a workout Dick Tidrow just watched him warm up and he was doing those sort of Michael Phelps swimmer kind of you know arm flaps and saw how much shoulder mobility he had and he said I'll bet you he's got a good two-seamer in there and that two-seamer didn't develop until he was already in the big leagues and then it became one of the best ground ball pitches and majorly baseball so that just sort of tells you how he was able to kind of see what somebody could be and and understand just the not only the mechanics of pitching but just the feel for you know what might be under the hood what what someone might be able to to look like when it all comes together and so that was a real gift and a blessing for the Giants to have that kind of acumen for all those years and and obviously you know some of the other recent pitching picks haven't worked out quite as well you know obviously ready Crawford has never really got

the chance to really even get him in a mound very much but yeah you need to hit on on your high draft picks and the Giants we know they're they really took a lot of pitchers in that one draft and Landon Group came out of it and not a whole lot else and I think they realized they needed to you know emphasize pitching in this last draft because as much as the minor league system is really really you know rocket it up the rankings it is definitely tilted toward position players and so you know now you look up and after the trade deadline and and after some of the players they acquired their Marquez Loalane from the Yankees and and now you've got Flora I mean they could have a really nice Eugene rotation or even a Richmond rotation next year Jacob Breznan is a guy who keeps showing he can you know master the next level so yeah it's not going to happen overnight but I think they they're in a much better spot now than they were you know even just a couple months ago. Yeah Andrew Bagelies joining us check out his piece on Jackson Flora in the athletic right

now just kind of piggyback on what you're saying there because you get excited and we've been excited in the past nobody knows it more than you it's like okay this this guy's going to come up and he's going to do some of this guy and it just hasn't happened but you start looking at as you just pointed out San Jose where you're looking at Gonzalez you're looking at Hernandez you're looking at level and then the pitching that you just mentioned you know it it could happen but we've just kind of almost PTSD to this whole thing so in terms of just the position guys as prospects you just talked about the pitching the pitch the prospect guys how high should we get on these guys on that because everybody's talking about it. Well I think you always have to temper your expectations to some extent I mean I think a really good example is is the team that just came through here the St. Louis Cardinals I mean they had Jordan Walker who was you know one of the most hyped prospects you know really in recent years and he was a colossal disappointment you know for two years and and now you look up this year and he's you know one of the top 10 hitters in the league he's over 100 RBI's you know it all came together for him but it took time because he needed to continue

to develop in the big leagues so you know you I think it's it's perfectly fine to get really really excited about the way a Johnny level has just continued to be undeterred as he's moved up the system or or to look at you know the tools that Joss organ's all his displays and think about a Jose Reyes Raphael for Cal type of player but you know you can't just immediately assume that you're when they do get the big leagues you're gonna plug them in and they're gonna have success right away because that's it's just rare it doesn't happen that often the big leagues is the last level of development but I'll tell you what I think one other thing that's a nice thought to keep in mind because we haven't had a lot of nice thoughts this year is what Bryce Eldridge is doing because this guy's 21 and you know I populated a list the other day on baseball reference of hitters who were 21 or under played in a minimum of 100 games in a season and had an OPS plus of 130 or more which means there were 30% better than a league average hitter and I mean I was floored I was floored at the names

on this list it was it's what Bryce Eldridge is doing this year he's got an OPS plus of of 132 and then you know you look at the rest of the names on the list and it is I think I have it here junior Caminero Huleo Rodriguez Michael Harris the second Juan Soto Ronald Cuny Jr. Juan Soto Cory Belinger Mike Trout Bryce Harper Mike Trout Jean Carlos Stanton Jason Hayward Miguel Cabrera Albert Pohl's A-Rod Griffey Griffey Darrell Strawberry and Rick Anderson that's going back to 1980 that's the list that Bryce Eldridge is on right now I mean those are all like a lot of inner circle hall of fame or so that's franchise players so that that is a nice list to be on and that I think you do allow yourself to be a little bit like wow but Bryce Eldridge could be a really really big impact clear here for a long time yeah it's it's fun because people are getting excited and we know as you just pointed out that look this hasn't been a whole lot of fun and I just I don't like speaking for fans but as long as I see some sort of you know shining light and I think that Bryce Eldridge for people who are still going out to ball games and everything has been that and just

to start thinking about him and obviously what Devers can do and Schmidt getting healthy and you know Adamus has not been great defensively but is an upper level offense of shortstop at least I mean you can you can start seeing them the makings of an offense and then like you said even though these kids are 17 18 19 that we just talked about I mean it's going to be a minute but at least you're starting to see okay there's some semblance of an offense here well and they got to figure out you know a few things I mean you know Matt Chapman obviously was not able to be the player that they expected him to be well you know Adamus really really fell off you know you mentioned he's still an upper level offensive player not really because I mean the on base percentage is about 275 you know he's still hitting some homers but yeah it isn't he's really not been a plus on either side of the ball and you know it you hope that maybe this year challenges him a little bit not that he wasn't motivated before but you know it was a really really tough year for him and they're going to have to figure something out going forward if he's the shortstop next year I you know there are players coming in the system and maybe they don't have someone else ready right away

on an opening data plug in a shortstop but I think that day's coming quicker than maybe anyone anticipated and you know what maybe Adamus becomes an outbuilder maybe he comes a left-fielder we know that you know they're gonna need right-handed bats in that outfield and maybe those at bats go to Casey Schmitter or Willie Adamus and they figure out something else on the infield whether it's you know Marcelo Meyer or whoever else you know is coming up to the minor league system because we know that they're going to be spending most of their chips this off season whatever off season we get to have with a lockout coming on pitching so but knowing that you've got Eldridge knowing you've got Devers that's a really nice place to start and then you know you expect to get more from the veterans that really let you down this year but maybe you don't expect them to be right back to their you know career peaks because you can get more production in other areas a Jonah Cox you know that's a guy that really has impressed I think so far and if we don't never see Harrison Bayter again maybe Jonah Cox can can move into that role so yeah you know I

think there's a there's some good things we're seeing down the stretch here even though it's been a disappointing year and and you know still a lot of work to do. Hey bags just I want to go back to Eldridge for just a second because it just popped into my head as we were as you were talking there is I guess the lockout would prevent this but we've seen so many young players this year sign contracts buying after arbours or anything like that would the would the lockout of the impending lockout just take that away they wouldn't do that with Eldridge. I don't know if that would really impact things to be honest I'm not sure how much of an impact that would have you know it's it's a good question though because the giants haven't really done that you know with some of their younger players even Tim Linsichum they went pretty much year to year with him. They haven't really had the big contract where they buy out a lot of you know arbitration years they they done it with like Madison Bumgarner but I'm trying to think of the last position player that they did that with maybe Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt probably so yeah I could definitely see them

doing that down the line but generally they wait until those guys get to the the cost of arbitration and so they can get some cost certainty around that you you got to wonder with with with what the trends have been in the game to even sign guys to multi year deals who have yet to make their debut I think that's more of a I guess an important thing for you know teams like Milwaukee, Tampa Bay where they really need they really need cost certainty they really you know they want to try hey if we can guarantee this guy this much money and we are able to buy out one free agent here that's that means we get him for one extra year we wouldn't get him for I don't know if that's as much a consideration for the giants just given where they are in terms of you know their ability to you know sustain a payroll that's in the top you know top 10 or at least should be so but yeah it's it's a good question I think it's probably something that when we asked Bustropos you about it earlier this year it wasn't something they considered but that's just because they just dropped you know half a billion dollars on right on acquiring Raffinal Devours and and extending

Chapman and and sending Adamis so now that they're you know a little more removed from that we'll see what how much they spend on the pitching side this off season but I could definitely see some some sort of at least some conversations being had about that good stuff hey great pieces always we appreciate it we always get smarter when you when you join us thanks as always have a great weekend and we'll talk to you next week well thanks John appreciate it got you too you too yeah that is the great Andrew Baggley read his latest giants prospect Jackson floor ourselves hope and half price beer in San Jose playoff debut if Tim was at that game he would our leg Jackson floor wouldn't even care how he pissed he just struck out the beer batter that's all you need I'll be running go to hug him on the field thank you by the way they need to have that major league baseball you got to the why wouldn't you have the beer batter like I know we're gonna have cheap beer on the 23rd and I'm gonna be out on the patio it's gonna be a great time but I mean come on how much how much fun would that be if I haven't they adopted that at the major league level like this person is the beer batter like they ever have ever seen the beer batter in person

no it's an incredible event because you know a lot of times in a baseball game there's not that much action everybody gets involved everybody gets off there gets off their out of their seats and everything and then if it happens there is a mad dash to the concessions like it is a sight to behold I totally think of you know you that's what we do right we steal from other successful things how is major league baseball not done the beer batter like you got to be kidding me and you could make it PBR if you wanted to or whatever beer like beer at some point we know this after you know after a few like beers a beer man and you're gonna give it to me for X amount of dollars if this guy strikes out the the beer batter placing who craze like then place could be dead there could be nobody there and all this you know the 800 people that were would be like are you kidding oh me a lot like come on I would encourage everybody go down to San Jose and participate in the beer but it's a better than that's awesome anyway next to Andrew Bagley he is great all right let's look reset everything as far as the 49ers hit us up we'll reset the pole coming up next as well

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