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From the land of the free and the home of the chiefs, this is the Lockdown Chiefs Podcast.
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You are Lockdown Chiefs.
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Your daily Kansas City Chiefs Podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team
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And welcome back to another episode Lockdown Chiefs.
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I'm Chris Clark from Chiefs Corner.
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He is right in Tracy from RGR football, Rogan Analytics and NFL 33.
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Lots of different things to talk about.
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We are getting into the draft and diving deep because it is almost here by the time you're
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We will be about what three, four weeks away from the draft and this is right where we
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So let's just dive right in right now.
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We are making the assumption, this is the assumption we will start with.
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We're making the assumption that chiefs get a pass rusher at nine.
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That is the assumption we're going to make with this discussion.
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So they get a pass rusher at nine.
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What do you want to do with 29?
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What are you willing to give up is going to be where we're going to discuss now and then
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a little bit later we're going to get into who you're going to give it up for.
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The one thing I don't want to do with 29 is stay at 29.
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So I am trying to most likely trade up from 29 is my guess.
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I could consider depending on if the board falls to the point where the targets would be
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We're talking about the chiefs maybe a most having 15 first round grades and that's probably
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being very generous.
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So I don't know if it's worth trading back up if two picks after the chiefs are on the
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clock and make their first selection if all their top first round grades are gone.
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So I don't know how far they have to go but for me I would trade anyway.
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The good thing is if those draft picks are gone or those selections in first round grades
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they could trade back from 29 because I do think the bottom of that round is still
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somebody who wants to come up to get that last go sneak something in before the end of
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night one before everybody has to reset their boards.
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So I'm confident I'm trading out I just don't know which direction it will go.
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For me it's based on the price to do so.
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So when you look at it you think that they probably have 15 grades being generous again.
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So the problem with trading up is at 29 you're more than likely going to have to trade
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up into the early 20s at least to get a guy that you think has a top has a first round
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But what do you have to give up to get that get there if you're at 29?
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That is the question and the picks that I'm targeting are Dallas at 20 I think that's
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the most likely one that I would be trying to get to because I don't think you're obviously
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not going to give anything with the chargers or the Steelers I doubt.
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Yes, you could go up to 23 with Philly and I do feel like you're on the Steelers but
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I just feel like the AFC is like they've got the chiefs where they feel they're down
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and I just don't think any of the AFCs are really getting much chance to reach you know.
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So I think you could trade with how it's 23 I think how it's probably game to move
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out of there I could be wrong but I don't know that that's going to get you any closer
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So for me it really comes down to the two picks at Dallas at 20 and Minnesota at 18 and
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if they were able to do that for 109 great, I can either and so that that's where I get
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I get pretty twitchy when we talk about sending 29 and 74 to try to get to 20 that seems
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like 74 is a is a pick that I think they can get an offensive lineman a defensive lineman
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a depth corner I feel like that's a valuable pick that I'd be reluctant to give up unless
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I absolutely had to.
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So let me ask this when you look at this I understand your thought process I understand
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where you're coming from but when you look at this are you considering as the chiefs
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would you consider giving up your third round pick you got last year to give up maybe
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only a fifth round pick this year sorry a third round pick next year's draft that you just
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got in in the trade for Mcduffee MLA yeah would you consider giving that up or even it
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doesn't really matter at that point it's a third round pick whether it's LAs or yours
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would you give up one of those third rounders to use to trade up and maybe give up something
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like a fifth rounder this year to get there as opposed to giving it a third rounder this
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And I'd be reluctant to do that because the class next year feels that it's going to
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be better top to bottom but if you did do that if it had to be a third I would do LAs
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maybe you move back from 40 to 45 and you can pick up another third or fourth it all depends
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on where you're looking.
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Well and I actually I would probably give up Kansas City's third if I could get away
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with it because it's probably going to be lower than LAs at least in my opinion generally
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us to do so at this point the question is we've talked about what you would be willing
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to give up the question is what would you be trying to go get when you move up again
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where it comes in tricky you took it you took a deep it's a bit in the first round at
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nine so just want to throw that out there again so giant check box off okay great I think
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this is the spot because of the depth on the side of the defense I think 29 is or the
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second pick in the first round wherever it ends up be I think that's the pick to look
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at the offensive side to be honest and so I'm either looking first off a wide receiver
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if you can get to 18 or 20 who's left there because you might find Jordan Tyson still
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sitting there that would be intriguing to me I would probably be looking at tackle as well
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now I think most likely there's three tackles that are off the board by the time we get to 18 but
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there's always a chance somebody falls through and I know folks wouldn't be happy with an offensive
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alignment at nine but at 20 I could live with that if it's final I could live with that even if
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it's feeling who I think is is a giant gamble at this point but I don't think it'll be
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now I know I think that the league likes him better than final right now I'm comfortable with
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final because he's he is a zone guy he's long enough in my opinion to be able to recover against
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longer rushers and I do think his athleticism plays into that so I'm not against him just against
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him at nine I don't want I don't want an offensive alignment at nine if they don't have to hide
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and I get that thought process and it makes a ton of sense to me the the big question and this
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is going to be the thing that everything checks out with is what's available I mean that's that's
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the big problem you know we're talking about that they're going to be taking a defensive end and one
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of the things that we didn't specify is that they took a defensive end at nine because that does
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matter if they have to trade up to go get the defensive end they want I'm not so sure you can make
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a trade at 29 especially not up very high because you're probably already going to have to give up a
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third round pick at least to move up to to go get a couple or a couple spots to go leapfrog somebody
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whether it's Cleveland or whether you're trading up to Cleveland or you're trading up to the
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commanders to leapfrog the Saints I mean you're going to have to give up more than just I would
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imagine you're going to have to give up the third round pick so don't think that we would want to
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be talking about that because then you'd be basically trading away your third round pick to move
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up to go get your past pressure and then you'd have to trade a fourth round pick to and maybe
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another third to go up and get somebody else I mean that's really the problem that you're going
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into yeah that's true and it becomes again whether one of those first round grades is still available
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when within striking distance that you think if you can go up and get them and if that's the case
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there is a problem with this draft that it is not very top heavy yes there's good debt that
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the multiple positions in several that will help the chiefs but if you want blue chip players
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or or even purple which is probably the what I feel is like the money spots right you don't have
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to have the sunny styles or the archival races right it'd be nice to have but they are the elite
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blue chippers in here as long as you get the next here now the the guys that aren't quite red but
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they're not elite blues like that purple rage is what I'm looking for if you can do that then maybe
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it's worth it because then you're not digging as deep into the later rounds and you're pushing
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your total selections up to more towards impact players yeah and that's going to be the big question
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what can you get where can you go my bigger my my question you talked about wide receiver you
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talked about offense you talked about tackle is this another position where they look at the board
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and they say okay well I would imagine delaying has gone probably top 15 that's just my guess
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is corner another option at trading up to go get the corner because there's a corner out there
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that's a lot of people like that you like but it's a question of injury and how that's going to play
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into the evaluation and in all of that so lots of different things there but it could be corner
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is there a defensive tackle that you would trade up not even necessarily all the way to the 20s
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to go get I don't think so I don't think either of those positions are ones that the
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chiefs want to make a trade for I do like McCoy and I do think Spags will like and Merritt will
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like McCoy but I don't think that Brett Vitch is going to go trade up for a guy with that history
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much like Simmons I think they'd stand pat at 29 and see if he falls to them I just don't see that
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but if it's a tackle is a different story right a lot of people have woods is number one I have
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him is number two behind Caden McDonald because Caden McDonald can play all three downs and I am
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disturbed more so by Peter Woods 2025 than AMTJ Parkers both of them had down years and that
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comes in defense but I feel like Woods fell off a lot harder from where he was in 24 so I think both
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those guys could be gone so it becomes are you trying to trade up for Lee Hunter massive Matt
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from Texas Tech but again not a pass rush type guy and now that you have Tonga do you see him
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your nose for the next three years I don't think you can make that move if you're looking at it from
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that perspective great you have to get passed for us from a DT in the first round at least in my opinion
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yeah I agree with you and I actually have I have 103 I have Miller next and then there's a bit of a
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drop and there's three guys the next tier I think you can wait till 40 and get Dominic Orange or get
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Grayson Halton certainly you may be able to get somebody with that similar grade um
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Grayson or somebody down at 74 and that's another reason not to give away that pick now I'm not as big
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on Caleb Banks because I think his tape is so inconsistent I don't trust it there's the foot injury
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for a 330 pound man that makes me really nervous a lot of people tell you that Banks will go higher
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and maybe that pushes more defensive tackle talent down I'm hoping that's the way it goes because
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I wouldn't be drafting in the top 40 uh Caleb Banks well there you have it that is kind of what we're
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looking at that's kind of what we're thinking about when we're talking about are you going to trade up
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and go get somebody in this first round at the end of the first round and why frankly you know
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you kind of mentioned this in the first segment the better option may be trading back we will find
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out here in about a month cannot wait the NFL draft is almost here thank you all for listening
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today and we will talk to you next week