Kylan Darnell: The Queen of Bama Rush Is Ready for Her Next Chapter

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3:03I'm so excited out here. How are you? I'm good. It's nice to catch ups since the last time I saw you at the Super Bowl. I know, but we're going to get into that and that is so exciting. Obviously watching people, see you on TikTok and social media, live out your influencing career. But now you're also pursuing what you've always dreamed to do. So we're going to get into all of that and I honestly commend you for doing both. It's truly amazing. Thank you. But what has life looked like since graduating Bama? It's been so peaceful. Okay, so me graduating was a big thing for me. Yeah. Just because I was always working and doing brand deals and like the influencing thing while trying to balance being a college student. And I knew how important it was for me to graduate with that degree. So I'm super proud that I did. Now I am currently back in Ohio, back on the farm with my parents. It's so funny because I've got to curfew. Everything is by their rules. I'm going a little bit crazy to be completely honest. I've been on my own for four years, like done everything. And then going back to moving home, it's a transition.

4:04Definitely. Yeah, I've had to take a set back back. All right, Kyle, and it's their house. Not yours, you have to chill out. Yeah, it's so funny. So even though you're in your 20s and adult lived your life in college, you have rules at home. Yes. I'm financially paid for everything myself, like since starting my TikTok career and everything. So it's so funny that I've got to curfew home. I'm allowed to listen to my music as loud as I would. And like my parents are super like traditional. They don't like cussing music or anything like that. They're always like, turn that off, like blah, blah, blah. So it's just fun coming back to rules. Not really fun, but I'm adjusting. For sure. How long do you think you're going to be in Ohio for? It's like a quick little study. I want, we're like flaning our move to New York right now. I'm going apartment shopping tomorrow. So we're hoping to get in here by like middle of July. No later than the end of July. So this is just a little, a little taste of home before you're in the big apple. It's a farm hiatus. I'm talking to all the cows. Now the funny part about like where I live in Ohio is that it's such a small town that we don't have like road lights

5:07anything like that. It's technically a village. So I went to high school with like the same group of kids from kindergarten all the way through. I could tell you every kid's name in my class and like their grandparents' names and maybe their dogs. So it's like there's not a going out scene anymore. I'm missing that Nala and Van Laen. And I'm just super bored. I could only imagine. Wow, that's crazy no stoplights. No, no, no. Wow. So the cows are directing traffic. Literally. On our farm they are. I mean, but it's just nice to be home and to breathe and to touch grass and be like, okay. My life has been going so fast these past four years and now get that like two month break. It's been refreshing. Graduation seemed really emotional for you. Did it hit you right away that your whole Bama chapter was officially over? No. I have been excited to graduate since I was a junior just because it was really hard for me doing all the things I do. And then having to go back to class or not getting to go do this brand trip or this experience because I had to be in my classes.

6:10And my professors were actually really hard on me until about my senior year. I had a great professor that professor that gave me a lot of leeway, let me skip a lot more than he should have. So I'm very appreciative to him. But it didn't hit me until graduation morning. I was doing my makeup, I was getting ready, like doing all the TikToks and stuff. And I just started bawling my eyes out. My mom was like, you wait till now to do this. I was like, I don't know, like I was so excited to graduate. Now I don't want to. And so that always surprised me because I didn't think that I would have these emotions. And so literally we were like making all these videos and I just start crying. I was like, what am I going to do after college? What if my life doesn't work out? And like, I'm somebody I always love knowing what I'm doing and everything's planned out for me. I've got an amazing team that helps with that. And now that I've graduated, it's like, what do I do now? Yeah, I mean also just what you built in college, it was pretty amazing. And just the hype around Bama Rush and Rush TikTok and Servedity Life, it really blew up overnight, I feel.

7:12And to now see it, but also at the same time, going to Alabama. A huge, huge school, like and just, you know, the football scene there, the life there. I mean, I visited Bama and I had the time of my life. It's really so fun. College kids Disney World, it doesn't get better than it. It really is. So just watching all of that, you know, what you built for your career as a college student, but then also leaving, you know, Bama, it was, it probably all was just a whole load of emotions. I feel like I'm like leaving a piece of me behind. I loved being the sorority girl that was so involved with Bama Rush. I've got a very dorky theater side to me. So then being able to bring that out and do all the costumes and do all the, like the preparations with the videos and the themes and stuff like that. Me and my mother loved, like, our favorite one of all time was whenever I was sharp-payed Evans. My sorority was Zeta and they did like, caddy day.

8:12So like, my mom made me the custom, like, all-papized classical musical, little sharp payout fit. And I would get all dressed up, do all the dances, lip sync, all the songs. And now that that's like over and it's so funny because in college I was like, oh, I hate whenever I go do these big experiences and everybody's like, you're the little sorority girl and I've been trying to grow from that dynamic. But now that that's not me anymore, I'm like, wait, I took that for granted in the moment. Because it was really fun. A lot of people obviously know you as the queen of Bama Rush. But now it feels like life is shifting into a completely new era. What does this next chapter look like for you? See, I'm at that era where I don't exactly know what my next chapter looks like. And I feel like that is such a big thing that I'm going through right now. I think it's hard whenever you don't have everything painted out. I've been in talks with like networks and stuff like that with my sports broadcasting career and I've got a couple great opportunities lined up that I'm really excited for. But I am moving to New York and it's going to be difficult for me to navigate this city.

9:12I've never lived in a big city before last night. We already got walls with Google Maps and my sister were screaming at each other. But is he's coming with me but she's going to stay in Alabama and do online classes as well. So it's just, I couldn't really tell you of perfect. This is what it's going to look like and that really bothers me on the inside. Because I'm somebody that's such a planar, so type A. Like I love to know what I'm doing. But right now it's kind of up in the air. But for sure you know you're going into sports broadcasting. Yes. And I think a big question that anyone could ask you is, why? Why are you still so passionate about doing sports broadcasting when really you probably don't have to? Yeah, I financially have. Now I don't need to but it was always something that I top of my bucket list. Whenever I was in the third grade, I was at one of my brothers like football games. And there was a girl that was on the sideline talking and like interviewing the players and I absolutely loved it. I was like, Mom, what is that? And she was like, I think she's like a sports reporter.

10:12My mom didn't really know much about it. Yeah. But I looked over my dad and said, I'm going to do that one day. And then he was like, okay, Kyle. And like everybody in my life was always said, okay, Kyle. And you're going to do that. I like painted it and I'm doing it. And I don't like, I'm so grateful that I'm there now. But I've always loved sports. I've always loved talking. So for me, it was the perfect like put them together and it makes gold. So I've been loving it. I love being in the sports world. I'm just such an active sporty girl that it's a lot of fun. So you studied broadcast journalism and now there are already so many opportunities happening in sports media. Getting to work the Super Bowl as a special correspondent had to feel insane. I mean, seeing you in San Francisco was honestly so cool watching you with the players. How did that feel? It felt surreal. It was everything that I've always wanted to do and so much more. And I'm so grateful that they chose me and gave me that opportunity. I loved going in the stadium, doing the stadium tour, getting to do like exclusive interviews with all the athletes. It just didn't feel real. And now that I look back on it, it still doesn't feel real.

11:15Like, you know how it takes time for you to process it. I still haven't completely processed like all the stuff I've done from like SEC Nation to college game day. And I'm just super grateful for all of them. I love making sports fun. And I think that ever since like, I want to say when Taylor Swift and Travis got together, kind of brought more pop culture into sports. And I love that. I love how women are getting more into it. You've got little girls that are watching the games now. And I love to be like a part of bringing in the pop culture. Was there a moment at Super Bowl where it all clicked? Like, I definitely want to do this for my career. I was with Fanatics and I was interviewing Will Anderson Jr. And he's an Alabama legend. Everybody in Alabama loves him. And I was just like, wow, this is it. I had butterflies in my stomach. I love the adrenaline rush it gives me. And it was funny because I was just asking him like casual questions about like, what was your favorite bar in Alabama? Like, what'd you do whenever you went out? And I think that he was so happy to answer this questions because it was just like memory lane. Like, that was how we were able to relate. It was probably so nostalgic.

12:15And it was just that moment. And then getting to interview Jaylen Milano, like, he was our college quarterback until my senior year. That was cool to do. Sports broadcasting feels a very different from influencer culture. Do you feel more comfortable in front of a camera doing hosting and reporting now because of TikTok? I thought it was a percent yes. And because of pageants as well. I grew up on the stage. I grew up in interview practice getting all the pageant coaching, learning how to be comfortable on stage and on mic. So I'm very grateful for that aspect of my life. But definitely getting on camera and talking every day has made it way easier for me to like, get on live camera. Now I didn't expect it. I'll tell you. But the live part is what's scary. Yeah. Because we get to go back and edit our TikToks. We can go back and edit this podcast. Being live is what's really frightening. Yes. With all the lights. Like, I just did with the CW. I did the PVA tour, which is like professional bulwake.

13:15Now, too. I know anything about bulwake, no. But it was just like fun for me to be like the correspondent there. And so I was interviewing all the guys. I kind of didn't really know enough about bulwake. But I was able to bring out their personal side. But standing there before they said, like, action. Oh, so nervous. I was about to cry out my fans. I was like, holy crap. What am I doing here? But it paid off and it was a lot of fun. It was a great experience. I just feel like you just have to get in front of the camera. That's the most important part. And growing up with pageants, I did them too when I was younger. Oh my goodness. I did not know that. Yes, I did. I was runner up a couple times, definitely a little heartbroken during those moments. Because I obviously didn't win. But it was fun. It gives you this sense of confidence. It really makes you just own yourself. Like, be true to yourself and own who you are. Because you have to go on that stage and you have to represent yourself. And that's all you got for you. Yeah. It definitely gave me tough skin. Looking out on that stage and being judged by like five different people that you've never met in your life.

14:15No, actually nothing about you. You're like, all right, this is what I got. I hope you like it if you don't. I'm sorry. That helped me in the influencing world. Because you go on there. People are going to disagree with your panians. People are not going to like your videos. So you got to have tough skin. Yeah, no. 100%. This is Tamara Judge and Teddy Malin Camp from Two Teas in a Pod. There's a moment just before your guest arrive when your home stops being a series of rooms and becomes an atmosphere. The light settles, the air shifts, cedar, fig, and warm and considered moving through each space. Your favorite scent. That's what pure does. It turns fragrance into environment, environment into intention, a collection of beautiful, clean fragrances, all controlled from your phone. Choose your sense of place at pure.com. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Int Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month is back.

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17:21I couldn't believe it. But watching you get dressed up and accessorize your outfits the way you did. And doing everything, I was like, this is so cute. Rutgers is nothing like this. It was so much fun. I think they like a lot of people. I had the time of my life that week. And it was crazy because, like as you know, I went to my hometown population is 1,000, maybe 1,500. So it was crazy. And I wasn't on my phone. Because you're not allowed to have your phone going in and out of houses. So I post my videos in the morning, and then get my phone back, go eat them. And the girls and then get online and be like, whoa, I just blew up. It was crazy. What was that thought in your head? Okay, I'm going to post this. Were you just doing it like for your friends or like, what was your mindset behind it? I think God, from my mindset every single day, because I did not know anything about sororities going in. I did not know that it was frowned upon, especially with Alabama Rush to post on social media, that you automatically lose like five houses posting. I wouldn't have done that if I would have known it.

18:22I didn't know it. I was a little clueless. So I got on there as like kind of a FaceTime call because my grandma had no idea like my mother was not in a sorority. No one in my family has ever been like in Greek life. And my grandma would text me and say like, what are you wearing? What are you wearing? So I would like FaceTime her and be like, oh, this is like my outfit. What would you think? And then she looked at me and she's like, this is such a cute like video idea. Why don't you make a video to where people in our area can like watch you on your Instagram and they understand what you're doing. No way to get that from your grandma. Yeah, that was why I did it. I know that. And I know why I did it. It was going to blow up the way it did. So I'm grateful that I did it. And I didn't know that there was a bunch of like behind the scenes you shouldn't. But it was hilarious the way it happened actually. It was just like all like God's timing. It happened. Literally. And also like coming from your grandma who probably knows nothing about social media. Nothing. And just like her being so cute, you know, show the people back at home what you look like. Yeah. And I think that my videos did do so well because I think of auto girls during like the BAM rush time. They're so worried about what they look like.

19:22They're so worried about the outfit, which the outfits I think is what makes it fun. But it's not the whole point. I was kind of going on there and explaining to people like what the sword is looking for, what you need to do, how important the GPA is. And I was like breaking down each round like from convocation to philanthropy to sisterhood. And I was telling them what it was. So I was like given the whole sorority SEC rush class. The people were also getting educated while watching your videos. Do you believe in rush coaches? No. Now I have had a guy come out and say that he was my rush coach. He was my pageant interview coach. He never, ever, ever helped with my rush experience. Yeah. So I've had like those articles probably weren't people just because they were involved in like my pageant life. But no, I think that they're stupid. I think they're wasting money. All you have to do is put on a key outfit. Do your makeup good and just have a good conversation. I think people draw it up to be this whole. Oh my gosh, if I don't talk about this, this, this, this, I won't get in. It's not like that. I mean, I have recently been educated about rush coaches.

20:23I think it's absolutely bonkers. And they're charging out. Yes. Please see. Charging so much. And then this coach is what I'm going to tell you what highlights you should put in your hair. What stores you should shop at that you need a designer bag. Yeah. I just feel like the entitlement, like the entitlement of that is like insane. And how are you going to just, it's like, come on, fashion makeover. One, two, three. Let me turn you into a new person. I'm like, that's crazy. And I feel even when I went through rush, you're going to find out where you want to be. Going through the house is immediately whether we want to admit it or not. You know which ones you click with. You know which ones you don't. And it's pretty obvious. And then you take it from there. And if you don't get the house you want, then listen, that was God's plan. And that's how it was meant to be. Yeah. At first, it felt like people saw Bama rush as fun and lighthearted. But eventually the attention definitely became overwhelming. When did it stop feeling fun and start to affect your mental health a little bit?

21:23My senior year, it had always been just like fun and games for me. I loved it all the way through. I loved being entertaining and I loved going online and talking about it. But it really started to affect me whenever my little sister came to Alabama. I loved my little sister. I am so protective over her. So then whenever it's like the summer going into senior year, everybody's like starting to talk about Izzy. Is she going to rush? We know she's going to Alabama. What's she doing? And so then I would have like, it would come across my four-year page of all these like adults talking about my sister being like, oh, she's unhinged. Oh, she says whatever comes to her mind, she should not be in a sorority. Kind of like not painting her in the most positive light. And that started to hurt me and bother me early on. So I would say my senior year just like took a spin downwards because at all these people with older opinions like comparing us to whenever we're completely opposite. I think the Izzy deserved her own experience during rush. And too many of you are comparing her to me and being like, yeah, it's not fair to her.

22:24She's not me. She doesn't want to be me at all. No, and I think that's also very normal in households within siblings. I'm one of four. And me and my sisters, each one of us are so different and have our own personalities. Yes, we obviously agree on things, disagree on things. But if you compare Gabriella to Melania, it's like apples and oranges. Melania is Izzy. You know Melania is fun and outspoken. And I wish Izzy came on that tar trip because I feel like her and Melania would have hit it off and had time of their life. But and that's Melania and that's who Melania has always been. And you can't change that. That's her personality. But it's also a blessing. They're fun. They want to have a good time. They're outgoing. And you know, it's not nice to compare it to a sister because you also are your own person and you've developed your own brand.

23:27And I think when you are going into this light of social media and TikTok, etc. just growing up in the public eye in general, it is easy for people to compare you to your sibling or to compare you to what each other are doing and the similarities or differences between it. But within that, I think that also makes our siblings or you know our sisters want to be their own person and create their own identity and be a little different from us. So I mean, obviously you and Izzy have both built huge followings but your personalities online are really different. And TikTok saw that and social media saw that when Izzy entered Bama and chose not to rush. What was your reaction to that? I was just trying to support her. Is he genuinely, she gets the villain edit on TikTok just because she's outspoken. She says whatever comes to her mind, she doesn't care to say it. And I love that about her. She's actually kind of brought that out in me and she's given me so much more confidence watching her run around Alabama.

24:31Because I used to be somebody that if my hair wasn't perfect or if my outfit wasn't perfect, I didn't want to go out of the house because I didn't want people to clip me on the streets looking not cute. Izzy's like, ah, who cares, let's go. So she really brought me out of my shell. But whenever it was time, she went through two rounds of rush and we were looking at the houses that she wanted to get in but didn't. She was just like, I just don't think that this is for me and it really bothered me that my whole experience and my sorority was me posting about it and me gaining like I like to think that I gained Zated, like I called Zated to have a lot of traction online because I was constantly posting about all of their events. So then it bothered me whenever a couple of the girls in my sorority came to me and were like, we don't want your sister because it's like too much online. And so I was like, that is so crazy because whenever I was a freshman, y'all had me in the front of all the videos, y'all wanted me to always talk about Zated and then whenever it's Izzy's turn, they're like, ah, this is too much, never mind. So yeah, that bothered me a little bit.

25:33But couldn't you also, the legacy thing. Were they not allowed to really, you know, say that or do that? Zated was very, no. And it broke my heart because I've been the spokesperson for them since the get-go of it. I just felt, I understand now that it was a lot with like the online following and let's say if Izzy did something wrong online then it comes back on the sorority and it's like the sorority's image. I get that whole aspect of it, but I wish that they would have had a little more grace with my sister. For sure. So then during this time when Izzy was rushing, you decided to step back from posting during rush and that was a huge decision for you. So many people associated you with the rush world. What led you to that? I could not handle all the hate that Izzy was getting online. People were like, oh my goodness, she's like completely opposite of Kyle and just saying that she didn't deserve to be in a sorority.

26:35And it bothered me because Izzy didn't care to be completely honest over the summer. She's in a sorority or not. It was me. I was like, you need to brush. We're going to be best friends. We're going to do it together. We're going to have the most amazing time. I'm going to get to relive fresh when you're through you and you're going to be running around with me and my friends. So I really wanted her to get that sorority experience. On the other hand, Izzy really did not give a care in the world. So then whenever I pushed her into rushing, it was truly on me. She'd say that too. I pushed her into rushing and I wanted her to get the great Alabama experience. And then my sorority, like the second day, called me in there like, hey, I just want to let you know we're not taking Izzy. It's just too much of a liability online and all of this. And I was just like, that's not fair because this whole time, y'all, I've loved me posting. I've brought so much positive. Izzy would never post anything negative about like a sorority that we're both in that she loves. Like that never. But whenever we got that back, it really just like broke my heart because they let me go on all summer thinking that it like we would talk about it.

27:36Like, you know, you broke on pro girls. You've got like your store girls. We had talked about it all summer and then I get that back. And so like the little, the little hands I can't wait for your sister to be a Zada. Yes. And so they have all these girls texting her and like a couple other sororities did too. And so then just to hear that, I was like, y'all could have told me this and like saved her the her not getting in a house situation. Yeah. You know, definitely. But was it also difficult during that time to disconnect from your audience for a little bit when they also expect you during this rush period to also share everything? Yeah. I, okay, whenever I stepped back, if you like go back and watch, I was back within like a day. So it wasn't like this. I'm never doing rush again. It was just, I just needed to take a mental break. I needed a good cry. I needed to not go into the house that day. I couldn't handle it. So then it was the next day I woke up that morning and I was looking at my adorable dress I had. And I was like, I planned so many take talks for this dress. It was like the one that was like the mail that my mom like,

28:38I mean, yes, I saw that one. Because we did like letters to a PNM or something like that. And it like had like this day to tell off like return to say it. It was like the, I was like, I got to wear it. I got to do all the videos already worked too hard. It's been all the money on it. I'm coming out of my retirement within a day. 24 hours. So guys, it really wasn't that big of a hold. Yeah. One thing people always say about you is that you are so genuinely positive. How do you say so positive? I've been like that since the time I was born. I've always been a kid that sees the glass like half full. I'm always somebody that like, even if it doesn't work out, I like to say this about myself. I like when bad things happen to me because the next thing that happens is going to be great. I'm like known for that within my family if I have something like let's say I didn't get the job I wanted or a role went to somebody else. I know that the next one is going to be for me. And that's what kind of helps me stay positive. Also, I just think it's such a drag to be a negative net. You know, it's, it's just not for me.

29:40And like honestly whenever people around me are super negative, it bothers me. So I have to like completely like... Well, because it burns down your energy. Yes. Yeah. I like one time got in like a group that was not for me and to couple of them were negative all of the time. And I noticed like through whenever I'd go back and watch myself, they're like, I wasn't as positive. And so yeah, I just love to be a ray of sunshine. I think that we've got a lot of like sad and heavy stuff going on in our world. So why not be like a positive light in it? You definitely are. A lot of girls look at BAMROCH content and think it's this perfect, glamorous experience. What's one thing that people definitely misunderstand about BAMROCH? Oh my goodness. A lot. I will say like looking from the outside and it looks definitely greater and grander than it is. It's even just looking at the houses. Yeah. It's as our wild. Wild. Yeah. Going through like sorority recruitment, I will say it's a lot of stress because you don't know if those girls are gonna like you.

30:41You don't know if it's gonna go well. And I think that a lot of people don't understand the effect that like the alumni's have. That is, okay, that's what I'm gonna answer with the alumni. If there's an alumni that like has a friend that doesn't like your daughter, she ain't getting in. And that's what I thought was crazy. And I hope that like nose eight is getting mad at me for saying this. But it was my sophomore year. There was an adorable girl coming through the house. I was absolutely laughter. Turns out that one of the alumni like went to college with her mom something like that. There was like between the parents. Between the parents. And we didn't let that little girl in because of an old lady. And it made me so mad. I was living. That's what made me so mad. I was living. So I didn't understand that big effect that they had. Yeah, wow. Yeah, I would never think that either. Yeah, and Zeta in Alabama, it's thick with alumni. There is so much pressure now online to always look perfect. And like you just said before, you are so into your outfits, so into the way that you look.

31:44Did being part of such a visible internet moment affect your confidence or self image at all? Yeah, it did. But I will say that I was able to grow from it and learn from it. I go back all the time my freshman year and see those videos. I was terrified. Like if you were to pull them up right now, we're going to have to like add in a clip. But I was literally like shaking kind of and I was like, hey guys. I was terrified. So going through that and then like getting like, you know how online is, it's positive and then it goes negative. And then it's positive again and then it's negative. So I had to learn how to ride that roller coaster. For sure. And you guys really did deal with so much. I want to say within these four years of you being in Alabama. Oh yeah. And then now that your sister has entered the equation, there's just a lot. And your mom is so supportive. And but that all comes out a lot. She's so cute after the tar trip. She's been starting to come up with my for you page and I'm like, I love that. She loved that tar trip more than anybody there. No, she was the real MVP.

32:44And then you I see the TikToks of your mom and dad there. Like the real life Barbie and Ken. Oh my goodness. I hate their TikToks. I get I look it's weird. I'm sure that you've ever like seen videos and clips of your parents on TV and you're like. 100% my gosh. Sometimes I look at them and I like giggle and laugh and sometimes I get a little bit embarrassed. But at the end of the day, they love doing it. So why would I tell them to stop? No, of course. So obviously moving to New York is in the question. You're getting ready for it. Is it exciting for you or is it terrifying? Terrifying. I am I'm excited and I'm excited to like live out my 20s here and be like a hot girl in the city. I'm nervous for like the dating pool just because I literally just got my nail. I mean my hair done and the girl was telling me like the dating is not a thing here. I do hope to find somebody and get married one day. I'm a hopeless romantic. So hopefully it's not that bad as people describe and worried about that. I'm worried about this. So many people here in New York City like actually so many.

33:46You'll find somebody. Yeah. I just think it's going to be like such a big change from the 90s. I mean it is. I mean you grew up in a small town in Ohio with a population of a thousand people. You go to Bama. Bama is really the only thing there. Oh and that town. It's literally like Tuscaloosa is a college kids like. Yeah. I hardly ever saw adults out to dinner. No. It's Bama takes over that town. Yes. And then coming to New York it's just a whole it's a whole different ballgame. Like there is just constantly people moving. It really is the city that never sleeps. But it's so much fun and there's a new thing to do every day. And just even when it comes to you go to Soho and shop. But then if you want to go to West Village there's so many cute restaurants. And especially during the spring, summer and fall just going out and getting a spritz or going outside and getting something to eat. It's so much fun and then the parks and there's just so much to do here. So I think as much as it's terrifying you're also going to love it.

34:48I know you were also saying you're nervous about getting lost. Yeah. It's something I struggle with every day. And I've lived here my whole life. Not in New York but you know I grew up in Jersey where I was a 45 minute drive into the city. Now I live in Jersey City where I take the path train and the subway almost every day. And yeah it's terrifying. I mean I ended up in Brooklyn the other day and I was like what am I doing? I was coming here and I was like I called my podcast producer and I go guys. I'm in frickin' Brooklyn. Do they have a subway class? We need to find one. I mean they somewhat should teach a subway class. I don't disagree with you. I would make a call from you. You just really have to follow the signs in the subway. Google Maps I have to say they do a pretty good job of helping you like telling you what stops to get off of. Like okay four stops until you have to get off. Follow the uptown signs or the downtown signs. But when it comes to like take the MF I have no idea what any of that means.

35:48I get on the train that the maps tells me to get on but like I don't know the difference. You know like everyone's like oh never go on the F is that it? Never go on the F? Yeah. Don't know why. Well I think that whenever I watch videos but like I've been looking up like cute places to go in New York all that. I think the social media does kind of paint the negative. I'm worried about like being in the subway and like have you seen the videos of like the break dancers in there and then the people that are like crawling around the floor and then the people that are screaming. That's a little nerve wrecking. You know I had a very little scary interaction the other day and nothing has happened to me. Thank God I mean you know I'm not going to. But I really didn't I really have not had a bad interaction on the subway nor the path. And something a little weird happened. You know they were asking people for money and you know someone did give them money. And then I'm like why did you just do that? Because now I'm like I don't have money on me. And I was just it was like that you know that little bit of a scary feeling like oh my god like what if you don't have money on you.

36:50What are you supposed to do? Yeah or what if he just takes your parts like yeah no there's definitely some scary you know just always be cautious. I think that's the biggest thing always be cautious. I also think after when people get you know people get out of work around five six. I wouldn't take the subway after that. I think like the rule of thumb is like obviously I don't take the subway at night. I don't take the path at night. But during the day and whenever there's like during work hours and when it's light out and people are walking around. I think it's you know most of the time okay but just at night don't do it. All right thank you for the advice. I hope I never need to. This is Tamara Judge and Teddy Melon Camp from two teas in a pod. There's a moment just before your guest arrive when your home stops being a series of rooms and becomes an atmosphere.

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42:57For sure. And I just, I don't know if this is just a social media thing, a TV thing. I think it just takes people time to really see you in a new era. People still look at me as the little girl singing waking up in the morning. So I don't know what it'll ever go. What is something people completely misunderstand about you? Hmm. There's a lot. That's a great question. I would definitely say that a lot of people, they see what I put online and like yes, that is like my online like life and I try to be as transparent and real as possible. But then they also don't like see my other side. I love being a tomboy. I love running around in the mud on my farm. I always grew up like playing sports and I don't think that they see my like I have really bad anxiety. Like it's crippling sometimes and it didn't really come out. I feel like until after I posted online because like in high school and stuff I never had like actual challenges to get over. It was just kind of like, oh I didn't do good in my sports game or all I lost that pageant whenever I went to college.

44:00Like I had some serious character development moments and some growing up. And at the same time whenever you're young and posting online, I feel like people were really hard on me in the beginning. And I think that as a viewer we've got to like give these especially young girls grace. And sometimes they didn't give my sister and I that. So we had to do with a lot of online hate and like me in comments so like it made me kind of anxious. And I hate feeling that way because I love showing my life. But I hate like before I post being like, oh I please hope I like pray that no one takes this the wrong way. Because I've never want to offend anybody or like hurt anybody's feelings. So yeah I just I think a lot of people don't see my anxious side. Yeah no I mean I couldn't agree more. I think being a misindustry you have to always think 10 steps ahead. And that is you know just an adjustment because obviously we usually you know if you're hanging around your girlfriends or just with your family it's you know you don't have to think about it.

45:02You could just be who you are and as it's not that we're not doing that on social media but it's also we also have to protect ourselves too. And we don't want the hate and we don't want the anxiety but I get it too because I've recently over the years have developed anxiety too. And I'm like where did you come from? Why is this here? Like even in just like all aspects of life I've noticed that I have it ever since I don't know if you know this about me but I posted like a video like talking about like a guy that I was like seeing and I was like excited about I've never talked about a guy on social media. Literally the next day it comes out in boom turns out he had another girl on the side and it goes mega viral and like I had to like deal with all of that and finding out after we had been dating for a while. So that gave me like an anxious thing with like guys as well because I'm like always like even if it's a friend I don't want to post like a guy friend that like I don't like to post or anything like that because I don't want to be labeled with a guy anymore because after that happened terrified me. I mean yeah that's definitely scary but also your followers got you too.

46:05They did. They protected you. They did protect me. Thank you. So what is next for you right now are there dream jobs or projects you are hoping for to happen next anything you want to just add in about what's coming up next for you. There's a lot coming up next I'm really excited because I'm doing like a project with college football but it's going to be in another country so that's going to be a lot of fun. So I got that coming up and I'm really excited for that one. I'm excited to international work. Yeah to show everybody my life here and hopefully y'all will see me on your TV screen. So we'll see how it goes. There's a lot coming up. Yeah. So excited about Kylin. Thank you so much. No thank you so much for having me. It was wonderful to talk to you. This is Tamara Judge and Teddy Melon camp from two teas in a pod.

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