Lindsay Clancy's Attorney Said THIS About Patrick After the Mistrial

0:00This is Hidden Tillers Live with Tony Brusky and Robin Green. Patrick Clancy's attorney has now released his statement saying Patrick and his family have been targeted by an escalating defamation campaign. I think that's putting it nicely. He says influencers and conspiracy theorists have spread baseless claims that Patrick was somehow involved in the deaths of Korra, Dawson and Callan. He says those claims have threatened Patrick's reputation, livelihood and life law enforcement has been notified. That's that's part of the statement that was made a couple of weeks ago. We had attorney Eric Fattis on here and we were asking, uh, who should Patrick sue first because it's been getting insane. I've been saying Patrick, you need to start suing people to shut them up. I hope to God. He does. Um, I mean, to just stop for a second and think about the fact that this statement ever became necessary. I, I was shocked when I first started hearing about it.

1:00Honestly, in this case, that people were blaming Patrick. I thought people were confusing the case with something else at first. I'm like, nah, like this is clearly not like, you're mixing it up with something else? No, no, people are people came home and a, Patrick came home and discovered his children. The jury heard his 911 call. He testified about what happened. Nothing presented a trial implicated him in their deaths. That complete strangers picked through his grief, his forgiveness of Lindsay, his divorce, his new marriage, where he lives and when he appeared in court and somehow, oh, and his walks, he went for a walk the other day in New York and had coffee, holy shit and somehow turned their, their suspicion and smiled. Woo. And turn the suspicion into an exact, an accusation. What should have Patrick done? What could have Patrick done to prevent the masses from looking at him and going, you're a baby killer? Yeah, that's, I agree with you.

2:02That's probably the craziest thing about this. And someone the other day, again, wrote me on social media and said, well, I don't know much about this case, but everybody says the husband did it and, and I'm kind of going along with that. And so I wrote back and said, where, what's the evidence for this? And she said, well, what I'm hearing, not, you know, just what I'm hearing is that he moved on too fast in a way that none of us could have done. And so my response to that was if I were his therapist, I would say this grief is going to be with you the rest of your life. You're going to be thinking about this every day. But what, what I would advise you to do is create a new life for yourself. You need to find joy, you need to find a sense of purpose. And that will look different for everyone, what that looks like. But I don't think the fact that he moved on eventually married, as you've said three

3:05years later, and has started a new family, there's nothing pathological about that. This healthy thing to do, and as a clinician, I would never say don't grieve. Of course, he's still grieving. He's always going to be grieving. This will never leave him. It's altered who he is. I'm sure it would for anyone. But I think as you said, Tony, what do you want him doing sitting in a dark room being his head against the wall forever? I mean, that's not healthy. He's got to build a new life. This does Patrick's forgiveness of Lindsay and Rage people because they know that they couldn't be that strong to do that themselves. Is that really what it comes down to? Is people look at Patrick and they see a better man than they are and they know it deep down. They're never going to say that out loud. But they see a better man. They see a better human being. Take sex out of it, male female, whatever. They see a better soul, a better person who was able to navigate this in a way that they would fail miserably at.

4:05In every which way imaginable and they know it because they're that weak will of human beings and they see somebody that survived this. And for some reason, they look at that and go, that's threatening. I better demonize that. People do that. And I'm wondering if this is just some weird twisted prime example of that where the guy found a way to move on with his life successfully, healthily as best as you can after something like this, still advocate for the woman who actually did this publicly forgave her. And they know, that's not in me. So you're bad. I think that's a very good point and very likely. And the other piece that I don't think people get is the incredible intensity of the way psychosis works. They just don't get it. Someone else wrote to me and said on Facebook, I don't know. I don't understand how his mother could forgive her. I mean, you know, her grandchildren were killed.

5:07And it just goes back to what we keep saying. It's because she was not her normal self. She was not in her right mind. She was completely transformed. She was not in reality. And clearly the family understands that. They could see her change. And people just, I have a hard time. And probably because I've worked with so many psychotic people and had a few in my family, I get it. I have seen very nice people literally have a psychotic break and behead their mother. I mean, you know, that's pretty extreme. And I could go on with a book of stories about the things that very nice people have become psychotic and done. And other folks just don't seem to be able to wrap their head about what a transformation it is when your brain breaks to that degree. It's like he doesn't even want to even go there. Yeah. In the middle ages, they called it demon possession and tried to exercise you.

6:09Some still do. Some still do. And so another area, you know, besides the projection going on with Patrick's here too, I think that there's a lot of other things that can be contributing. So also, Shivon, do you think the image I have is Luigi, Luigi Mangioan, where people are celebrating him as a hero because he saw himself as a social justice warrior. Consequences be damned. And so is that what do you think some people are also doing is potentially have seen that hey, I'm going to be a social justice warrior for the kids. So it's got to be an evil villain here. So regardless of the consequences, I could be sued for defamation here. I'm going to be a social justice warrior and stand against Patrick. Is that playing in it at all or? Yeah. But very much they see themselves as moral crusaders and that's that moralizing identity fusion that they've got that I'm the one who's fighting here. I'm fighting for those children and it's lacking insight.

7:13It's confirmation bias. It's throwing out the facts, but it's very much become an identity for people where they're so fired up about it and they get so angry. And yeah, I'm worried for him, you know, for his safety because when people become crusaders like that, they can get dangerous. They can do really scary things, especially when you're self right. You know, because again, then you have the self radicalization going on where you it's easy to find people in these pockets online, whether it be TikTok or X or anywhere else or discord, where they get in a groupthink mentality and they start ramping each other up and they start spinning out of control. And that's where the that's when it gets like you said, really, really dangerous. And so the social media is fueling throwing caracene. The algorithms are feeding it and the crazy nutters just go to the point of their own psychosis. I want to this is an interesting comment and Shavon, you can probably shed some light. The case is getting worldwide attention for different reasons than you may think.

8:15Plus Europeans are mostly baffled by the 1920 style mental health care and the judicial system in the US in 2026. How accurate is that are we are we in a 1920s mental health system in the United States when the rest of the world looks at us and are understanding of things like this? I would even put us back earlier than 1920s. I think we can I think we can go back to 1800s. And yes, I've seen those people talking about the devil and demon possession and and that psychosis. I mean, yeah, this actually I belong to groups on Facebook for parents of psychotic adult children. And so I monitor it just because it's fascinating to me. People are coping. And every now and then somebody will pop up and say, I believe my son is demon possessed and we've all got a prey. And there'll be a few a handful of people who agree with that. So yeah, this country in many ways is still stuck, stuck a hundred years ago.

9:17And I think in many ways when it comes to health care, Europe has done a much better job. I haven't traveled in Europe extensively. I was in Madrid, Spain about 10 years ago. There were no homeless, um, mentally ill people living on the sidewalks like me. Can you mean there's a way of handling that? I think it was was yesterday, day before we actually had one of our people in the chat said that they were from Norway and they I think it was Norway. Norway, it was one of the Scandinavian countries, I believe, and said that they went to this would not be a case. She would not have even gone to trial. They wish she would have been put in a mental institution right away. Um, and it's just standard. I mean, it's like a standard thing and that they were appalled. And then I remember looking at the chat, they were getting then pounded on by the evil righteous people saying, well, you know, country's evil. But it'll live there. I mean, just, just, we are nuts. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's really fascinating to see the reaction because we do have a lot of listeners and other parts of the world outside of the United States.

10:17Uh, and it's been fascinating to see the reaction to this case versus those in the US, where we're, we're just kind of, we seem like we're battling each other just to understand the basics of this thing. And the rest of the world is looking at us like, what is wrong with you guys? Like, what? Why is this such a, you know, in a lucid concept for you to wrap your minds around? And to that, I say, I don't know, but that's why we're talking about it right now, which is even so if you think about it, I'm sorry, the last point on it. So when you think about it, you have some countries in Europe and other places, sure, I'm been told that have that as a standard that is ones have gone to trial. She would have been found criminally insane and she would have just been institutionalized right from the get go. Meanwhile, in the United States, you only have a handful of states that are actually saying that you can actually have the defense of not being criminally responsible and the burden on the defense to say she isn't, I mean, that she is in vice versa. I'm, we are, we are so far out of sync with the rest of the world.

11:18And that's why I think, um, Reddington during his, um, during his defense was saying he's laughing at the DSM trying to prove what a, what a ballics thing that DSM is compared to the standard that Europe uses for mental health. Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean, well, we live in a country too where, you know, you can go across a state line and in one state, you know, it exists mentally, illness exists. And then, you know, 10 feet that way, it's, it's witchery. I mean, this is where we are in 2026. It's still like that. So I think we have a long ways to go. Number one in our system catching up and then the psyche of our population getting there, we're going to be long dead if, if we ever get there. And I'm kind of, I think it might kind of be our downfall, quite honestly. Your thoughts in the comments section on sub stack and YouTube as we continue to work through the Lindsey Clancy case.