Lisa Rinna and Jim Carey’s Two Faces

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Hello and welcome to juicy scoop.

Well, I have a great juicy episode for you.

I can't wait to get into it.

Here are some of the crazy things that happen over the weekend

that are light and pop culture related.

So we're going to take a break.

We're just going to get into juicy pop culture stuff for you.

Everybody thought that Jim Carey was not Jim Carey.

He won an award.

He accepted it in French and he appeared to look very different.

His voice was very different.

So several videos were made.

One video they zoomed in and his brown eyes, which I've always been brown,

appeared to be like a light green blue,

which made me think even if he got a facelift that's still swollen,

which is what I initially thought.

I thought it's him with a swollen facelift.

I thought why would he change his eye color?

Then I saw another video which was a swollen face,

possibly bad facelift, but it still had brown eyes.

So I'm like the original person that did that video

just throwing the different color eyes.

It's so weird to know what's real or not.

And the reason you're like,

well, why would it not be him?

Heather, why would there be a clone?

Well, because in following all this crazy stuff,

it was Jim Kerry who, upon accepting a different award,

mentioned trafficking and killing of children,

he also brought up the Illuminati sign with Jimmy Kimmel,

where the audience was just laughing thinking that he was mocking

kind of the ridiculousness of the conspiracy theories around the Illuminati

and the triangle and all of that.

Other people feel like he was the one truth teller.

There's also videos of what he was with Jenny McCarthy

in which he was very much against immunization and vaccines for babies

and they believe that had a correlation to her child who has autism.

So they're like, the Illuminati has gotten him, okay?

A lot of people like me were like,

I think it could still just be a facelift.

Then they said he's left-handed and they show him this guy coming out,

signing autographs with the right hand, not the left hand.

In the comments, someone would say, well, I'm left-handed and sometimes if I don't care

about something, I'll sign it with my other hand and I don't care.

Okay, fine. TMZ now reported, this publicist said it is him.

There's also a very famous makeup artist named Alexis Stone,

who does full masks and makeups and has done everything from

her being Glenn Close, he being Glenn Close in the Dalmatians

to Kim Kardashian and he just does incredible stuff.

You should just follow him, he's just an incredible artist.

And he had done Jim Carey once so then they thought,

is it Alexis Stone being Jim Carey?

Who knows?

Oh, the other, the other thought is when he played Andy Copp

in the incredible comedian that kind of played a character's whole life

and then Andy Copp and Diey, we didn't know if he was really dead or not

or if it was all just a long elaborate like prank or hoax.

Is Jim Carey doing some type of role and he wanted to just play this

this live prank out for us where maybe someone with his blessing was him

or was him, Jim Carey, with some type of mask or prosthetics

and he was out there and now he's back looking like normal Jim Carey.

So that was, that took up People's Weekends.

Okay, then there was the SAGA Awards which Kristen Bell was the host,

her husband, Dak Shepherd, a lot of people that enjoy his podcast

and have kind of studied their relationship when she's been on the show,

have questioned their unique relationship and marriage.

And he did not go to see his wife host the SAGA Awards because according to TMZ,

it's now come out that he had a colonoscopy planned

and therefore couldn't go.

Now he's a Hollywood star.

You can reschedule those things.

You could probably have someone come to your house and do it for you.

I don't even know but not a great excuse.

He recently said about Valentine's Day that he only celebrated his mother and daughters

and gave them gifts and flowers and didn't his wife.

I don't know why you would be doing this unless they're playing us too.

Like maybe they're like, let's have fun with the audience.

Like Jim Carey and make them think I'm a bigger asshole

than they could even believe by not supporting my wife when she hosts a major thing.

Maybe Kristen Bell didn't want him there.

Maybe he makes her nervous or stresses her out when she's on stage.

I can understand that.

So I think maybe it was her wishing that she didn't want him to go.

And he's like, I'll just say I have to take a,

I'll just have a medical procedure the next day or something.

Just so there's like no heat on us.

But the truth is I make you nervous.

I stress you out.

So I'm going to sit back and not be there

so that you can actually have a more relaxing experience hosting it.

So the fashions were really good.

I thought Kristen Wigg looked the sexiest.

If you, if you could pull off a dress like this,

you know, especially on the red carpet.

Because when she turns to the side and you see

like the side tit and the cute little butt

and she's very thin and worked out.

She's always had a great body.

Her hair looks great.

She does, she looks really, really good.

So it was just a great look for her.

And I think this look of a dress is really chic.

Michael B. Jordan won for the sinners.

And they also honored Rob Reiner,

Catherine O'Hara and Dine Keaton who have passed.

So but people were once again very shocked

by Kelly Osborne who accepted an award

with her mother honoring their father.

And just how different she looks,

extremely different she looks.

Also Demi Moore was on the red carpet

and some people were alarmed

about how thin the she looks.

And people are a lot thinner today.

And it's crazy that it was only about four years ago

where everybody was really pushing and embracing

and talking about there.

No one's ever looked better in our curvy bodies

to now the complete opposite.

I mean, now it must have been the shortest movement

of quote unquote body positivity

that ever lived in the history.

It's like trends are happening so quickly.

They're like over before they start.

But anyway, that was a lot of discussion.

As well as people thinking other people look good.

I'll be honest, I didn't watch the show.

I don't think award shows are that entertaining.

But I do like looking at the photos

and they were some good ones.

Okay, so now I really am excited to tell you guys.

This interview is with Leafs Arena.

And I'm hearing so much about her

and the excitement around her book and traders

and knowing her for so long.

I was like, kept trying to remember the interview

that I did with her.

And so we pulled it up.

I listened to it.

It's from 2017.

I'm like, this is so good.

It's so juicy.

It's so fun.

And being that it was, you know, nine years ago almost,

it's really kind of interesting to listen to

because we know what happened after and where she is.

But we get into her life and her marriage with Harry Hamlin

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Who's a great excuse me?

Did you just say let's talk about the husband?

It's not talk about what you don't want to help.

You know what?

Let me tell you something,

don't touch my husband ever, don't touch my husband.

I'm saying, don't you,

you don't want to help for everybody to know.

You better watch what you talk about me

or everybody you'll know.

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You better understand that every time you go after me.

You better understand that every time you go after me.

Hello and welcome to JuicyScoop.

Super excited to have the most fun real housewife

of Beverly Hills.

Lisa Rina.

Hi.

Hi Heather.

And we've known each other for a long time.

We haven't had so long.

Oh my god, I just came over the first time

we did anything together.

Tell me, because I can't even remember, of course.

Okay.

Let me think about what year this was.

I wanted to say it was like 2006, 2005 maybe.

Okay.

Oh my god, it was so long ago.

Anyway, it's very long ago.

I'll know when you tell me.

Okay.

We taped a little thing in Gillian,

Barbary Reynolds guest house.

Oh my god.

Yes, we did.

I totally forgot about that.

Yes.

It's like a little pilot or what was it?

Well, basically it was really funny

because my friend Liz Roman.

Liz.

Yes.

So she and I have been friends since first grade.

She was really good friends with Gillian.

I became friends with Gillian.

And when Gillian was doing the Fox morning show,

she had all these fabulous friends.

And then we would, a couple of times she invited me to dinner

and I'm like, God, this is like the JuicyScoop

so these fat from fashion designers to actresses

to everything.

And so we were like, why don't we do what we call it girls'

nine in and we filmed the thing in her house.

We had like different groups of people.

We had Chelsea come was one of them.

You're kidding.

No.

And then I see Chelsea.

And I'm like, if you ever need a writer for your show,

you're not kidding.

No, I didn't really know her.

I know that.

Yeah.

It was right before the e-show,

but she had this other smaller show that was once a week.

And so then when she got the bigger show, I was like, you know,

and then this thing just didn't go.

We didn't have like a production team behind us or anything.

We were just kind of doing it.

But I remember we were funny.

But it was really, it was really fun.

But I just remembered, you told a real JuicyS story.

Did I?

Yes.

How could I not remember?

This is what happens when you go past 50.

You cannot remember anything.

You told a story.

Oh, God.

Because we wanted to make it fun,

but we also wanted to make it like exactly what my show is

right now.

It's like funny, but it's also super juicy.

It could be like, and this was a super juicy story.

Your mother was attacked.

She was kidnapped and attacked.

She was.

And that's the story.

I told that story.

I told that story.

Wow, and the table drinking.

Good Lord.

She was.

Yeah.

Someone threw, like, hit her in the head.

Hit her in the head with a hammer.

It was a, someone she worked with.

Tell the story.

Okay.

She was 30 years old.

This is a cautionary tale for anybody.

Yeah.

30 years old, worked with this guy,

and she was waiting, where was she working at?

I can't remember that.

But like an office.

In San Francisco.

In an office.

Like an office setting.

Okay.

Okay.

So an office friend.

Okay.

That she felt sorry for because he stuttered.

Mm-hmm.

So he, she was at the bus stop waiting to go to the dentist.

And he came by and he said, hi, Lois, and was stuttering, I guess, when he was saying

it, but he said, I'll take you.

Come in the car.

I'll drive you.

So again, she didn't really go with her gut at the time, but once she got in the car,

her gut was like, hmm, this doesn't really feel right.

All of a sudden, he stopped stuttering.

He's talking to her and he's not stuttering at all.

Long story short, they're in San Francisco.

He drives her down to the presidio, which is-

No, let me just ask a couple questions.

So she's 30.

Is she married to your dad?

Yeah.

But she's just, she's just started dating my dad, I want to say six weeks earlier.

Okay.

She just told the story.

She was just here and she was talking about it.

And so how long had she known the co-worker, supposed stutterer?

Three years.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

So do you think that he knew that she was seeing someone and it was like making him go crazy?

Well, he was married and had a baby at home.

And so when he picked her up, he said, I want to take you by and show you the new baby

because my mom had met his wife.

So wouldn't you feel-

Yeah.

You feel comfortable.

Right.

Like one of your guys out there.

Yeah.

Like he might be a serial killer.

Who knows?

Oh my God.

Do you think that is with Ray?

I mean, I know him well enough.

I mean, do you think-

He has a baby.

Okay.

All right.

And, you know, long story short, he drove her down to the Presidio, which was deserted at

the time.

Okay.

And he literally-

I mean, he probably would have raped her.

But he didn't.

He saw-

A military policeman saw them go down-

So when he's driving down the deserted road, what is he saying to her?

He's saying he's not stuttering and she's like, David, what's wrong with you?

What's going on?

This doesn't feel right.

And I was like, why didn't you jump out of the car?

You know, of course, you- at that time, you freeze like she was just like, what's going

on?

And he goes, I don't know, though, something funny comes over me and he's not stuttering

at all.

I mean, it's a scary tale.

Uh-huh.

It's a scary fucking tale.

She probably would have raped her and killed her.

But what happened was he saw the military police come down.

The military police saw them drive down this deserted road.

So he literally jumps on top of my mom, goes at her with a knife.

Where was the knife like behind-

In the glove box?

He grabs the knife out of the glove box, goes at her with a knife, she grabs it with

her hand.

I know this is so hard.

I told her, well, cuts her, you know, two fingers here.

Then-

So this is all in the car, the front seat, okay?

She's straddling her.

Yeah.

Goes at her with a knife, she grabs it and then he gets in the back seat and grabs a

hammer and starts hitting her over the head with a hammer.

This is a true story.

The military police comes down, my mom gets out of the car, sure her head is like, you

know, bleeding.

Her purse falls on the ground, she's in total shock and she says, all I remember doing

is putting things back in my purse, like thinking, oh, everything's fallen out of my purse.

So she's in total shock.

He gets out of the car, David Carpenter is his name.

He turns out to be a serial killer in the end and he's on death row for two sentences

of death.

Okay, wait.

Let's finish the story and then I got to have to ask you about that code.

All right.

So she's in shock, but they thank God, the military police guy is there.

Military police shoots David Carpenter in the stomach, but doesn't kill him.

So then they put my mom in a car and they're going to put David in the car with her and

she starts freaking out.

Of course.

They don't call an ambulance.

I think an ambulance comes, but I don't know the exact story, but they're trying to put

her in this military police car, I think, to get her to the hospital.

So somehow she gets to the hospital, they shoot him, but he doesn't die.

He's present, but gets out on a plea six years later, saying what temporary insanity

or something.

No, he made it plea deal somehow.

Was your mom scared when he got out?

Yeah, she probably was, but at that point they'd moved and lived in a new port beach.

And so he turned out to be the Mount Tammel Pious killer and you can google this.

So wait, he gets out six years later.

Yeah.

And then he starts killing people in Mount Pious.

Mount Tammel Pious.

Where's that in California?

It's in Melvalley.

Oh.

Two different.

There's like two different sets of serial killings.

And then he's raped a bunch of women, like he's all after your mother, all after my mother.

Before my mother, he had raped two women.

So during the sentencing phase for the death penalty was when I was after the after the

they found out that how many people didn't, okay, so he gets out like 22.

Six years after he gets out, he started, he kills 22 people.

Well, in a period of about in the Melvalley, maybe 10, 15 years women and all women and

like couples too.

Yeah.

And where's his wife and baby at this point?

I think they're divorced.

Well, I would.

Yeah.

I think they're divorced.

And so he turns out to be this horrible serial killer.

And so we go during the sentencing phase, my mom has to testify.

And there's three women now that survived this is like how many years after now?

Like 15 years?

Well, I was probably 21.

Oh, so it's like 20, 30 years later, yeah, 30 years ago.

Yeah, yeah.

So nobody was 20 more than 20 years after her incident.

And so she had to go back and see him in the courtroom and we were all there.

And it's really, you know, I grew up with a lot of fear, obviously, because my mom was

to overprotective.

Right.

Imagine.

Yeah.

You know, there was a lot of fear.

So, you know, obviously I've done quite a bit of therapy.

No, but I think you have something happen to you like that or even to someone close to

you.

And that was a fact you're parenting.

Yeah, I grew up with it.

I grew up with that kind of that it could happen.

Yeah.

Of course.

And so it's made me who I am and it makes me very leery, you know, it makes me very

protective.

Right.

And my boundaries go up quite quickly, I would say, yeah, you know, well, on that, you know,

I just thought of that when you said it, because I started to go back like, and then

another time that I talked to you was at Ross, Matthew's book party.

And that was a couple of years before you were part of the cast of Real House Beverly Hills,

but there was rumors.

And I said, are you going to do it?

And you're like, you know, I don't know, Heather.

Harry Hamlin is not opposed, I don't know.

And I was like, I think you should do it.

I remember that.

And I was like, I don't know.

I'm not sure.

I don't know.

You did say that.

I do believe I deserve a cut.

Okay.

Well, there's not much to cut.

I can like, I'll send you to the spa, apparently Harry Hamlin never has to work again from

your dust or sweaters.

I'll tell you, Harry Hamlin, can you can do it every once now, which before, you know,

Harry Hamlin's had to do a lot of really somebody on my, I have a shitty thing.

I have this a juicy scoop obsessed group on Facebook.

How do you see, juicy scoop obsessed?

Hi, juicy scoop obsessed group.

That's hard to say, but they're like really fun.

They post things.

And so I guess somebody go, somebody started talking about that.

And they brought up that there were some like a, maybe a lame sitcom or two that we all

believe that Harry Hamlin did not enjoy doing.

And this was before the dusters came out.

I'll tell you, Harry Hamlin's had to do a couple of things that are not Harry Hamlin

ask.

Right.

I mean, more than a couple.

And he's not happy about it.

And so I've always wanted to get to a point because every actor has to do that, you know,

especially nowadays.

Yeah.

I mean, to even survive as an actor is having possible, really.

Think about it.

So, so many things are going through my first while I just remembered another thing.

There's so many things that I don't think of that thing come.

Harry Hamlin, I believe now, I'm 99% sure, okay.

Didn't he do an extremely controversial movie called Making Love?

He was kind of the first guy to go full blown gay.

He was the first.

He in acting.

Okay.

Let's tell the story because I remember the movie.

Okay.

So the movie was 80, 1981, was it made for TV or was it a real movie?

Future film.

Future film.

Okay.

So it's about a woman and a man who are married.

Harry Hamlin is married to a woman.

No, it's, I think it's Michael Ankeen married to Kate Jackson.

Oh, and Harry Hamlin was the full blown gay.

Okay.

Okay.

Sorry.

So imagine taking on that role in 1981.

Wait, let's tell the guy.

Let me tell them the juicy story because it's a really juicy movie.

Okay.

They're happily married couple.

And then the guy starts seeing Harry around.

Is Harry a swimmer in this?

I don't remember.

I mean, they just wanted to show up about it.

Yeah.

Anyway, he starts seeing him and then they freaking do it.

He goes over to Harry's house.

Harry is a pioneer.

They have sex.

A pioneer.

He is.

He is a goddamn pioneer.

They have sex and the guy has to tell his wife, I'm doing this now.

What?

How did it end?

I don't remember exactly, but I'll tell you on a date.

I mean, he goes, he leaves his wife, but she except, but they're all friends at the

end of the dinner party or something now, which is the way it should be.

But that was, now when that, now you were not married to him then.

No, I just, I graduated from high school in 1991, but you're working, you just revealed

in last week's episode that you were working at a high class lens crafters.

Basically, not when I was 18, but when I was about 20, I was 29 by this time, 29.

So I'm still struggling.

Okay.

You are an actress.

You're a model.

You have.

I'm trying to be a good shot.

You have an agent.

Yes.

And this is your job at the, I got to play, wait, let me go back to the head being gay.

Okay.

Now on in the movie, yes, that's the new rumor on the show, please.

You know, because that's always, that's always the thing these housewives throw around.

Is that someone's husband is gay, of course, that's a very common one, very common.

Yes.

And I bet those bitches don't even know that he was gay in 81.

Did he ever like question it with his agents over like, I think this is a mistake because

you're going to be pegged as gay or did he know being a straight man, this was the ultimate

like acting role.

Well, you'd have to talk to him about it exactly, but I know that it was offered to him.

It was told to him that it could ruin his career.

And I think once that was told him, he was like, well, fuck you.

I'm going to do it then.

He's a little bit like that like I am.

It's like someone tells me no.

And it did ruin his career for about five years.

It did.

Oh, absolutely.

More than five years.

Well, what happened?

We couldn't get arrested.

Couldn't not get a job because people thought he was gay.

No, because it was so controversial.

They just didn't want to touch him.

You know, it was such a controversy.

I remember, I remember, I was like 10 or 11 and I saw, I was in just a five.

So I got to see every movie I stayed up late for every, I loved hooker movies.

I said, my parents had no, they were exhausted.

They didn't care.

I never had my friend list goes, I remember you coming to like third grade at Catholics

will be like, did you see the mistress last night with Victoria principal?

And you're like, yes.

Yeah.

And that's what I would say to her.

And Liz would be like, no, we went to bed at nine.

Like what are you doing at eight?

Like I was like, my parents are up like, and I'm just sitting there watching like I was

like, I was like, yeah, I was like, so excited.

That's and my son, my 10 rolls the same way because it keeps going.

It's today, Thursday, it's today, Thursday because he's so excited to see the Menendez brothers

murder.

Many serious.

So am I, by the way, but yeah, 10 year old?

Wow.

Well, he's almost 11.

Okay.

But again, I'm like, I kind of parent like my mom in that respect, but anyway, it all worked

out.

Yeah.

So because I knew about Harry Hamlin's movie dead at 11.

Why?

The day was very young.

So like I, my parents had gay real, when they were in real estate, so they had gay clients

so I knew.

Oh, cool.

And then I remember going to the gay clients house and he's like, and I go, wow, you

have a lot of, you know, a lot of toilet paper whenever he goes, well, my friend is very,

you know, wants to always stock up on stuff.

And I'm like, you mean your boyfriend?

And they were like, oh, my gosh, you're like, my parents, you know, went to Catholic

school and I'm like, well, aren't you guys like a couple?

And they're like, okay, like, you know, you are so ahead of your time.

I'm so, I didn't know anything.

I don't even think I had to know now.

I do now.

No.

Yes.

It's taken what?

50 years and I now know.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

No, I knew everything.

Wow.

So that's crazy.

So it did hurt him then.

It did.

And he didn't care.

If you ask him today, if he would do it again, he said he would say yes, absolutely.

Did he ever get jealous when Brookbeck Mountain came out?

Because talk about being ahead of your time and being born in the wrong era.

Well, I think that, you know, Harry is very much, Harry Hamlin, is very much like that.

Can you ever just call him Harry?

I do.

I thought we call him HH a lot.

Okay.

All right.

Harry was ahead of his time in many, and it has been in many things, like over and over

and over again.

So yeah, you know, at that point, or seeing Philadelphia, or nowadays, it's so accepted.

It's so different.

But, you know, he has people come up to him daily thanking him and saying that, you know,

they came out because of that movie, Andy Cohen will tell you that that movie was like

a huge part of his, you know, growing up and being able to, you know, suck the first

time they ever got to see, you know, that on screen.

Right.

So Harry's been ahead of his time in a lot of things.

It's just who he is.

He would never take it back and, you know, he was offered a Warner Bros. contract way

back in the day.

I mean, he could have been the biggest movie star ever, like ever, ever, ever.

Why didn't you take it?

He didn't take it.

I'm like, why didn't you take it?

Because of course, I say yes to everything.

He turned it down like you are crazy.

He turned it down because he didn't like, they wanted him to be Tarzan, remember way

back in the day.

Yes, yeah.

So that was the first movie he, they wanted him to do his Tarzan.

He was like, I'm not doing it.

And then they wanted him to do Saturn III with Fairfosset.

And he was like, it was the worst piece of shit script ever.

I mean, he's, he's classically trained.

He's a stage actor.

Yeah.

And so he's very, very, very picky about what he does.

So now he can be very, very picky because the Destor Cardigan has made it for us.

No, not just the Destor Cardigan, of course.

Of course.

Lots of things.

Good damn business.

Yeah.

It's really great.

Now he can just, he doesn't have to take a bad TV movie, a bad sitcom.

Or something that he doesn't want to do.

He can get really great stuff.

He can go do theater in New York.

He can do everything that he's always wanted to do.

So you're working at the eyeglass place.

Yeah.

And now where are you in your career at that point?

What have you done?

I've done a lot of commercials.

So at this point, I've probably done like 13 Taco Bell commercials.

And you still have to work at the eyeglass place?

I was collecting unemployment.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

How are you collecting unemployment while working at the eyeglass place?

Well.

Oh, shit.

Maybe not.

I'm just kidding.

Do you imagine someone comes after her 20 years later?

I don't get a rest of that.

Yeah.

Probably.

My friend owned the store.

Okay.

And so he had me working there and he just paid me cash.

Oh, god.

I know.

So scandalous.

That's the most scandalous thing.

Okay.

Probably.

That's, that's what's going to come out at the reunion.

So Rina is collecting cash under the table while she's collecting unemployment.

Andy Cohen.

I'm having a dog from Woodland Hills.

Is he a cool dog?

Yeah.

From David Creek, Nebraska, said, is it true that you've collected up, then somebody whips

out the, well, I'd love it if someone just played my podcast.

Can we do that?

Yeah.

And get my shoes going.

Yeah.

Okay.

So he strolls in to pick up the glasses.

Yeah.

And now he, now he is recently broken his engagement with Nicolette.

No.

They were married.

Oh, they were married.

And she had just left him for Michael Bolton.

This is a true story.

But I don't know that.

So he strolls in.

So you think he's married to Nicolette Sheridan?

Yes.

And he's like, I'm here to pick up my glasses.

And I give him his glasses.

And, you know, you're just like, oh, my god.

That's Harry Hammond.

I was yet all flirty with you.

No.

Not at all.

Okay.

No.

It was a very business like.

Okay.

So then what happens?

To be friends with Nicolette and Harry.

Okay.

So there's a little crossover there.

So one night, I go to give Brad the key.

To the store.

To the store because you won't let me have the key.

I have to go and deliver it to him.

He's always up there for dinner.

Okay.

So I work from like six to 10.

So at 10, I would go and give the key to Brad or he'd be there.

Okay.

At the hamlands.

Okay.

At the eyeglass store.

Oh, at the eyeglass store.

At the eyeglass store.

Okay.

So I went to give Brad the key.

And he's having dinner with Harry over at chains.

Okay.

Ilsa Greto.

So we went out there for a long time.

Twenty five years.

I've been here right now quarter of a century.

Um, just this January 1st quarter of a century.

So I go to give them the key or give Brad the key and he goes,

sit down with us.

They're having dinner.

So I sit down and I order a glass of wine.

And we start chatting.

I just seem to soak to soul a for the first time.

I was so blown away by it.

I mean, the very first time you've seen, you've seen Cirque de Soleil.

You're like, oh my God.

So I'm telling them all about this.

And I'm just like, you know, chattering away like I do.

And I leave and it was like fine, right?

I, yeah.

I didn't even think twice about it, really.

Because you think he's married, right?

I think he's married.

So I'm having drinks.

So the married man and my friend, yeah.

Bachelor friend, Brad.

Yeah.

So I'm living in Brentwood at the time.

We had answering machines.

Yes, I remember.

And I'm in the shower and I hear the answering machine go off.

I turn it off and I hear my friend Brad say,

hi, Lisa, it was really great last night.

Harry really had a good time.

And if, if he were single, he would like to date you.

I was like, that's so fucked up.

He's not single, he's married.

You know, that's, I was like, ew.

You know, well, he wasn't married.

So then what did you do?

So you called Brad and he was like, what the hell?

I don't remember that.

I don't know if I talked to him or what.

I just thought that was weird.

And then I found out that because the press came out

that Nicolette had left him for Michael Bolton.

And then what happened?

Well, then did you want a date?

Then it took a while.

It's a long, involved story.

It takes way too long to tell it,

but we do finally go on a date.

And how many dates before your bone?

Well, at least 10, because I make him go get an AIDS test.

This was right, like, in the...

After that movie.

Just kidding.

Right in the midst of like, well, it was 25 years ago.

It was like, you don't sleep.

I was really like, you have to have an AIDS test.

And he was like, what are you talking about?

I was like, I'm not sleeping with you

unless you have an AIDS test.

I've had one look here.

I was weird about it at the time.

That's good.

I guess back then, you know, it was...

Yes.

I haven't been with people yet.

People should be more like that.

So I made him go get an AIDS test.

And once he got his papers back.

Then you went for it.

Once he was okay, then we...

But I made him wait, which was good.

Right.

You know, we went on 10 days before we slept together.

He was pretty pissed, but he stayed in it.

Yeah.

Think about it.

That's a long time.

He was like pissed.

I remember one of my best friend, like, I was dating Peter.

And...

He needed a Peter too.

Well, it's not the same one, but whatever.

But he said, we were been on a couple dates,

and we hadn't slept together.

And he was like, hey, would you like to...

I have this thing, like, he was in sales.

He was like, I have this rumor, like, whatever,

a package deal at the Hyatt and San Diego

that's gonna expire.

Wow, sexy.

Yeah.

I was pretty excited.

No, it wasn't the Hyatt.

It was one of these San Diego ones.

Okay.

But it was right on the water.

Nice.

And I'm like 28.

Okay.

So yeah, that's exciting.

I'm excited.

Yeah.

So my friend goes, don't do it, Heather.

Don't go.

It's too soon.

And if he is really the one, you have the rest of your life

to go to the Hyatt and San Diego.

We've never fed to the Hyatt and San Diego.

So whatever we pass this,

because it's kind of near where I do this,

where I do comedy in San Diego.

And I'm always like, I always bring it up

and it'll be in the car, and I'm like, I turned down that.

Weekend, the Hyatt and San Diego,

because we had the rest of our lives to bone.

And it's your husband.

He is my husband.

Okay, so there.

Currently still.

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So now, you inherited for how many years before engagement?

Look, five.

Now, did you think he wasn't ever gonna ask you?

Yeah, I was getting to that point.

You know, he'd already been married twice.

Who was the first one?

Laura Johnson.

Is that just what?

She was a felcon crest.

Oh, he's only dating famous ladies.

He likes his ladies.

He likes his famous ladies.

You know, Ursula's his baby mama.

Ursula Andress.

He has a child?

Yes, Demetri.

How old is she?

Well, Demetri's his son who's 36,

but he was with Ursula first.

Oh.

So then he was with Laura Johnson,

but he didn't marry Ursula.

So he's with Laura Johnson married,

and then I don't know how long.

But no kids with her.

No kids with her.

No kids with Nicolette.

No kids with Nicolette.

Only married Nicolette for 11 months.

Oh, okay.

That wasn't very long.

So he wasn't really excited.

This was gonna be hard to get him to the altar.

He was not really excited to get married.

He was not really excited to get married.

He was not really excited to get married.

He was like, I don't think so.

And how, and he's older than you,

like what, five years older?

He's 12 years older.

Oh, he's 12 years older.

Yeah.

I know.

How fucking old is Harry Haleck?

He's kidding.

He's older than anyone thinks.

He's like, he's pretty, I mean, really?

Okay, so wait a minute.

Okay, so now, but now you're in your 30s,

and so you're a clock's ticking,

and you're like, what are we doing here?

That's right.

So we go to Tahiti about a year and a half

after we start dating.

And this is back when people had babies in their 30s,

not at 50, right?

Like Jenna Jackson today.

Yeah, so I mean, I'm like ticking.

Tickin, yeah.

It's ticking.

So about a year and a half in, we go to Tahiti,

and I think for sure he's gonna propose to me in Tahiti.

He just, I mean, he's going to, right?

It's Tahiti.

But you talk as a couple, you're living together.

And you're talking about marriage,

or does he always get weird about it?

We're not really talking about it.

Now, are you talking about having a baby?

No, we're not really talking much about anything.

Did you ever think about just getting knocked up?

Yeah.

Were you trying to do that?

No, because I was on the pill.

Were you still, but did you ever just like look at the pill

and like pretend to stick it in your mouth and then?

No.

Because I'm a good girl.

And I like, I follow the rules.

And you wanted to have the wedding with a flat stomach.

Of course.

And you know what, I just, I always felt like

if it was gonna happen, we would be married.

I just, I never saw it any other way.

So, most women would have fucked it up.

Most would have.

But you know what, it came to a point where I was like,

you know what, you need to do your thing.

Is it, he was fucked up after Nicolette left him

for Michael Bolton.

And they're not together, right?

No.

Okay.

No, but he was, I mean, he didn't see it coming.

So, imagine, like you're married to this woman.

So, she was having an affair.

Well, she went to the Hollywood Bowl one night

and saw him and then had an affair with him that night.

What's a Michael Bolton's point?

I don't know.

Yeah.

I did get to, it's just really funny story.

I did get to see him because you know, I always say,

thank you, Michael Bolton, because it weren't for Michael Bolton.

I would not have my beautiful children.

And so, about two years ago, we were at the,

you know, Michael Bolton's on, about two years ago,

we were at the Pollo Lounge at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Yes.

And I know Michael Bolton.

I've known him for years, but haven't seen him, you know,

really much since I've been with Harry.

And Harry wasn't really a real fan of his after that.

It happened.

Right.

But I always said, God, I thought...

Would you ever, like, be in the car and a song would come on?

And he would turn it off.

Oh, yeah.

For sure.

Oh, for sure.

I mean, now he doesn't care.

But, yeah.

We're sitting there and I go, I got to go over and thank him.

I just do.

Like, there's Michael Bolton.

There's my chance.

So, I walk over.

Hi, Michael.

How are you?

He's really nice.

Nice and cordial.

And I take his hand and I go, I just have to thank you.

I've always wanted to send you flowers, but I haven't.

But I have to thank you because if it weren't for you, I would not have my beautiful family.

He takes my hands and he looks at me and he goes, you are so welcome.

It was such a good moment.

I'll never, ever, ever forget it.

Okay.

So, you go to DeHeaty.

Yeah.

You make sure you have a manicure in case you get your diamond.

I'm thinking for sure, and then I get nuttin' and I'm pissed.

So, now you're a bitch on the 12, 14 hour flight home.

I'm a bitch on the trip and Harry's like, what's wrong?

And I'm like, well, I thought you were going to propose to me.

You say it, of course.

Of course.

Of course I'm going to say it.

Well, I'm not going to.

I wasn't going to.

I was like, oh, damn.

So, we had to kind of get over that hurdle and, you know, then about five and a half years

later.

He asks me at dinner, like we're sitting at dinner.

He didn't happen to have soon after dating.

One and a half years.

So that's the appropriate time.

Then he says, I'm not, and then you just go on with your life, and then the clock really

starts ticking.

Now you're at year five.

Now what?

You're still not saying anything?

Well, so long ago, I don't remember.

I think I was working on the soap.

So I was so busy.

Okay.

So, you care.

I don't care.

I'm learning 40 pages a dialogue a day, right?

Right.

I'm just trying to get through.

I'm just in your hope, right?

Was there Billy?

Billy.

Really?

But I hope in Billy, it's the same.

Okay.

They were with both.

So it's similar.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I think I was so, I was so immersed in that, like I could just only survive.

Okay.

So I wasn't thinking marriage.

So we were having dinner one night and he proposed to me at dinner, like just out of the

blue.

And did he have a ring?

He did.

And did you like it?

I do.

Oh, so good.

You never changed it or anything.

No.

Classy lady.

I love it.

It was his mom's diamond.

His mom's or his grandmother's diamond.

Wow.

That's cool.

I love it.

And there you go.

So I said, yes.

And then how soon after was the wedding?

And did you have a decent size wedding?

It was almost about nine months, eight months later and we had 170 people at the house in

our backyard.

It was gorgeous.

Nice.

Gorgeous wedding.

And then how soon after that was the first baby?

Six months.

Oh, so you're already knocked up?

Yeah.

I got knocked up.

Well, not.

I got knocked up like in September.

You were engaged.

We were married March 29th and I got knocked up in September.

Oh, so you still had the flat stomach for that wedding?

Yeah, I were gorgeous, fair, weighing fabulous.

You still have it?

I do, of course.

Good.

Yeah, she sent me like 15 sketches of dresses.

Pick one.

And were you like in a people's spread?

No.

No, no, no.

Oh, I don't think so.

I didn't even have it videotape.

I didn't want any.

We didn't want any.

Yeah.

I wish we would have now.

Yeah.

No, we didn't do that.

I mean, I would now, of course.

My god, I saw my flip and soul, which I already have 10 times over.

Have they ever approached you?

The producers and said, why don't we do a wedding renewal at your 25th wedding anniversary?

No, they haven't, but I think you just gave an idea.

Thanks, Heather.

Well, it's not a real original idea.

But why wouldn't you?

Because I, why not?

That you could have everything you didn't have at the first one.

I had everything at the first one though.

You didn't have a videotape?

Well, I didn't, but I think we're good.

You're never going to get Harry Hamlin to do that ever.

Never.

I haven't tried yet.

You would never get him to put him on the phone.

I could try, but he would, he would not.

He won't participate in a wedding renewal on a reality show.

No.

Speaking of reality shows, you guys had a little reality show.

We did some on TV land.

That's right.

With the girls when they were younger.

Yes.

How many years ago was that?

Oh, 2009, 2008.

Was that like Lisa loves Harry?

Harry loves Lisa.

Oh, I think.

We wanted to do like an I love Lucy type of a show.

We wanted it to be called I Love Lisa.

Okay, let that happen.

So they called it Harry loves Lisa.

We wanted to do it a certain way.

They didn't want to do it that way.

How did you want it to?

We wanted to do it very much.

Like, just follow our lives.

I mean, we had the stores, we had Bel Gray.

There was a shitload of drama going on

with our employees and everything.

They didn't want to do that.

Now again, I believe Harry Hamlin was ahead of his time.

Again, he was and they were like, no, no.

He was gay too soon.

And he was exploiting his family too soon.

Wait to see.

And this was a tough time.

This is when we had no money.

So this came along.

This is when you were folding the jeans yourself.

Yep, no money.

And we were like, well, they're going to pay us

a lot of money to do this show.

Was it your idea or did someone approach you with the idea?

We had talked about it and then somebody approached us

to do a show and then we had that idea.

So it came together like that.

And then they didn't do that idea at all.

So we only did.

And what did they, six episodes?

And they did it what, more kind of more scripted

like a curb sort of.

It was kind of more scripted.

It was like, we want this beginning, middle and end.

It's nothing like what we do on the housewives,

is what I can tell you.

Housewives happens, like, you have no idea

fastballs are being thrown at the back of your head.

Like, you just don't know what's going to happen.

You told me when we saw each other.

Last year at the HVL Golden Globe party, here we go.

Yes, that, um, it's the easiest job you've ever had.

Is that what I said?

Yeah.

Well, it is in a sense that you just show up.

Is that Harry Hamland is on the set 14 hours a day,

learning dialogue.

I'm breaking with the gals.

I show up on a facial, you have a massage,

you go to dinner, are you going to someone's house?

I mean, are you kidding me?

It is the easiest fucking job on the planet.

Exactly.

That's what you told me a year ago.

It is.

Come on.

It's not even like a job.

I mean, we are lucky.

And when anybody complains, I will bitch slap them.

Now, don't you think you being a working actress

is worth your ass off.

Juggling commercials.

I glassware, trying to nail down Harry Hamland,

saving your last egg, hoping to get pregnant.

Fucking worked it.

And then these women that have never even auditioned

for a high school play are your co-stars.

And they're bitching about the Mike Pak being cold.

Well, how do you deal with that?

Well, you know, I don't.

I really don't.

I do have a rule, though.

If anybody is not nice to the crew,

they will hear from me.

I will say.

I know has anyone not been nice to the crew.

Yes.

Who?

I'm not going to say who.

Hmm.

She'll tell me.

Well, I'm not going to say who.

But she's no longer on the show.

There have been people that are not nice to the crew.

And you have to be nice to the crew.

Like they push them and they yell at them.

And they do things that are so inappropriate.

Are there people that don't let the crew use their bathrooms

at their home when you're filming?

I don't know that.

I would have to act because I'm not there necessarily.

I think everybody lets the crews use their bathroom.

It's such a nice crew.

We have the nicest, best crew.

Like we really do.

Like they're great.

It's one of the reasons why I'll go back.

I go back because the crew's so nice.

Yeah, they're fun and they're so fun.

They're so nice.

The girls love them.

Like they're really a great crew.

Let me just see if what I, what do you want to know?

What's the least favorite show you've ever worked on?

Or actor?

I can't say.

I can't say.

I won't say, but there is one.

But I won't say.

Is it someone that was tweeting you last night?

No.

No.

Mm-hmm.

Interesting.

Yeah.

What's the least favorite show you've ever worked on?

A job that you can say.

God, I really have been super duper, duper, duper lucky.

All right, well then forget that question.

Yeah, no.

There isn't a bad one.

You seem to have a really great marriage with Harry Hamlin.

It sounds like you guys are down to fuck a lot.

Have you ever had a rough, a real rough period?

No.

In the beginning, it was a little bit rough.

With the babies.

No, before the babies.

Oh, and you're waiting to get the ring?

Yeah.

It was a little rough in the beginning because he was just not ready.

You know, he said it was not in the game, let's say.

So in the very beginning, it was rough.

And we went to therapy.

And the therapy before you got married.

Yes, we did.

How about that?

Well, I would normally, I would say if you have to go to therapy

before you get married, you shouldn't bother.

Right.

But in your case, it worked.

It worked.

And we needed to.

I think maybe when you're dealing with a guy that, you know, again,

divorced twice, then maybe then maybe I'm gonna say that probably is wise.

It was really wise when we had a great therapist, great therapist.

Now, did you, were you a stepmother to the demitry?

Yeah.

I didn't thought of myself as a stepmother.

But did he, did he come around a lot or was it, um, at that time,

he was 11 when we met.

So he was living in Rome with his mother.

So we didn't, I didn't get to see him a whole lot.

He'd come for the summer and he would come, um, for spring break,

but he was going to school in Rome and then he ended up going to Princeton

and graduating.

I mean, he's, what does he do now?

He's an artist.

Oh, cool.

Yeah.

He's really smart.

He's gorgeous.

And is he married?

He's not.

Hmm.

Well, ladies, look at mine.

I know.

Well, he has a girlfriend.

Oh, I'll never mind.

Yeah.

Um, all right.

Your hair.

Okay.

I think it's great.

Thank you.

I personally have only changed my hair once.

You know, that's what's so funny to me.

It's like everybody has the same hairstyle.

Pretty much.

If you think about it, look at all the girls that have had long hair

their whole lives.

But there's something about my hair being short that seems to

go under that.

Going short.

It's highlighted.

It's like done in the same way.

It's never like you do like quirky curls or anything like you always do it the same

style because that's what looks good.

It seems to work.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just easy.

I mean, I wore it off my face that one time on Andy's show and it like flipped everybody

out.

It made the fucking papers.

You know what I mean?

It like was the headliner on the daily mail.

I mean, come on.

It's funny.

Yeah.

To me, it's just funny.

Get away.

Call it.

No, it's not everybody.

I just touched it.

I touched it.

Of course, you're going to have to be bad.

That storyline will just never die.

And so with the Vidal Sasun girl who's coming on, how did she come about to get on the

show?

No.

I'd heard, you know, that's where the eyeglass store is.

Right.

So I mean, I live up there and I saw that she'd open a Pilates studio.

I remember one day my daughter and I were peeking in going, oh, we should come take Pilates

here.

I didn't really know Eden.

I just knew.

So did you suggest her then for the show?

No.

I'd never even met her.

So then all of a sudden, they're like, we have this new girl that it's going to be part

of the show.

You're going to go do Pilates with her.

And you're like, oh, my daughter.

I mean, thinking about getting a membership.

Exactly.

Like 100% that just like what you said, like Lisa, you're going to go here and you and Eric

are going to go take Pilates at Eden's Pilates studio.

I'm like, okay.

So they were just trying her out, basically, because they had decided to hire DeRite.

She was up for it and they decided to hire DeRite instead of Eden as a full-time housewife.

Okay.

I'm told this.

And then I think they thought maybe they needed a little more energy or a little more

something.

So they were still intrigued by Eden.

So they wanted to see how she'd work with everything.

Right.

Do you know what I mean?

Okay.

So that's how in the future episode, she gets seen more.

Yes.

Because I have a connection with her and have a lot in common with her.

It turns out.

Oh.

You'll see this way.

But it doesn't involve boy George.

It does not involve boy George.

No.

I mean, can we just talk about this whole thing?

A lot of questions about DeRite.

A lot of...

What do you think of DeRite?

What do you think of the new energy and the new cast?

The DeRite is, I think it's always good to bring in someone new.

I think the new acting is so good.

I think the new acting is so good.

You know, and I feel the arguments that are happening are a little pushed and a little

contrived and to be totally honest.

And I think what happens is sometimes people come on and what I liked about Erica Jane

who came on my show is she really didn't watch the show before.

I know.

Unfortunately, I think it's very hard to find someone who's never seen it.

That's never seen it.

Because it's a show that's intriguing to people like us and all right.

So most women love it.

And so it'd be rare, rare that you'd find someone that's like, no, I mean, it's occasionally

I meet women that don't watch it, but I mean, so, and I think that really works.

But then I think often times you get somebody and they've studied it, you know, and it's

like, oh, I should make a big deal out of this and I should do that.

I think you have a point.

I think that, you know, if you can come on and be your authentic self and try not to

create anything or push anything, that's the key to being a good housewife.

Yeah.

And it'll happen.

Right.

It'll happen.

But if you come on with a mindset of, I need to be like this.

It never works.

Right.

That's my take on.

And Doreet has, you know, this weird accent, it's a little bit English.

Sometimes it's a little Vietnamese.

It's very strange.

And I thought the funniest part about the first time they come to meet Lisa Vannampum

for dinner is she's like, you know, I am not attracted to attractive people.

You could give me the most gorgeous man on earth and I don't want him.

That's why I love PK.

When PK entered the room, I said, now that is someone for me because I don't like attractive

people.

I was like, holy shit.

And then he's sitting there and is like, who are watching it?

My sons are like, um, my God, who is he married to?

And I go, he's married to this girl in the red dress, you know, and it's like so great

to watch shows with like kids like that.

So then I know, right?

They ask all these questions.

Yeah.

And she's like, I'm someone who, when they, when I have a dinner party, I want everyone

to have a wonderful time.

Well, who wants people to have a horrible time?

What is that?

It's like, I don't think I have a wonderful time.

I hope you would.

And it's all about, you know, it's bringing people together.

And in this town, in this town, do they make you guys say this town a lot?

They don't make you say anything.

Well, I feel like Kurt and Kyle say in this town so much.

I wonder why.

And I'm like, why is, like, and I'm trying to separate Beverly Hills so much from the

other franchises because obviously it, I feel like Beverly Hills in New York,

does stand out.

Obviously, there is more wealth and fame than New Jersey and O.C.

It's a different kind of proof, but yeah, vibe.

But like, I'm just like really like in this town, you, you know, you need to have

fresh flowers that I go through a lot of work for this, it's very, and then that car.

And then when she's like, I mean, I know boy George.

Okay, don't offense to boy George.

I know who the fuck is like whacking off to boy George.

I prefer like why are either one so excited about it?

I think he's perfectly nice.

I, you know, I love boy George.

I believe love boy George growing up.

I mean, my god, it's boy George.

But I feel like people had to, in people, and other people's confessionals are talking

about boy George.

And I'm like, is some big thing happening with big boy George in the season?

All I know is he's on celebrity apprentice at the same time.

So maybe there's some correlation there.

I don't know, you know, like all of a sudden, I just know that you'll see.

Do you really want to hurt me?

Now, now you thought Erica Jane was a little sexy in her video last year.

Seems like you guys are fine this year.

I love her.

I have gotten to know her.

I think we've gotten a chance to get to know one another.

Yeah.

Erica Jane.

Yeah.

Lisa Rena and I are both handsome.

That's good.

I noticed that she's talking kind of like a 40s film star.

I love it.

I like it too.

I think it's fabulous.

I like it too.

Oh my god.

When you're fabulous and you've got the money to be fabulous, why not be fabulous?

Us.

So good.

I've really gotten close to Erica this season and we're having a lot of fun.

We have fun together.

We do.

You are more obsessed with her than Eileen Davidson or is she the most obsessed with

Erica Jane?

You know, she was the most obsessed with Erica Jane, but I think now we've all become

obsessed with Erica Jane.

Okay.

That's the truth.

I think we've now all surpassed Eileen maybe.

I don't know.

Eileen really does love Erica, except not Doree.

Doree doesn't necessarily love Erica or we'll see.

What do you think?

Well, no, because I know you, I know, boy, George.

I don't know her.

You know, iTunes hits, dialing.

I didn't write it for you.

You're good.

I could just listen to you and sit.

You could just do the show while we're sitting here.

I basically did.

Do the whole show by my life.

You're so good.

What about Vanderpump?

How's everything going on with her?

I'd like a fucking apology, Lisa.

You know, it's like, what is she doing?

You're going to apologize to her?

I did already.

I don't remember.

You apologize to her for your dancing.

I'm so sorry.

It was hard on you.

That's all she's getting.

Now, just that right there.

I've let it go.

I've moved on.

In the months in between of filming.

Six months.

There's six months in between.

Six months.

Who do you talk to?

I talk to Eileen, Erica, and Kyle.

Those three.

Okay.

Who's left?

Well, there's Vanderpump and Doreet and...

Who's the other one?

There's the other one.

We were missing.

Wait.

There's me.

Eileen, Erica, Kyle, Vanderpump, Doreet.

That is it.

That's it.

There's only six of us.

Oh, you're on the left.

So you're on the left.

And he's a friend.

Right.

Yes.

Okay.

And she's just new.

Last day of filming.

October...

End of October.

Did you have a Halloween blowout?

It was not a Halloween blowout, but it's a party at somebody's house.

But you don't wear costumes?

No.

We have a party coming up where we wear costumes.

Well, of course, you always have to wear costumes.

We have a Gatsby party.

I'll just tell you.

Gatsby, you already had a Gatsby party.

It was like Chris Jenner's.

Remember, that's where we saw each other?

Right, but you already had a Gatsby party.

Kyle had one like two seasons ago.

Well, I missed it because we have another one.

We had a move on Rouge party.

No, you had a Gatsby party?

Okay.

Okay.

Is that our fans of the show?

Okay.

Did we have one already?

When Kyle had a lady sitter?

The lady sitter who I love.

Yes.

He is now doing news on E.

He's great.

He's great.

He's great, isn't he?

The lady sitter helped her put that party together.

It was a small party.

Everybody had to dress in, you know, we'll do it again.

Well, we're back.

Now it's called the Gatsby party.

Do you do a wig or do you wear your own hair

for the Gatsby party?

I do a wig.

Okay.

Because you can't.

This can't be 20s.

No, you can't.

And so are there more than 12 people at the party?

Yes.

It's a big party.

Oh.

It's super big party.

Why don't you get invited?

I like to be an extra reality show parties and weddings.

I'm not sure why, but it was a big party.

It was in Malibu and it was freezing cold.

That's sucks.

It was tough.

It was right out there.

Haping outside freezing in an outfit, your little toes are cold.

We have no clothes on, babe.

I mean, you know, we have to wear the 20s outfit outfits.

And it's, we're on the dance floor.

The dance floor is wet because it's right.

We're like right off the ocean up on the bluff.

Who has a party?

It's Kyle who has the party at one of Maurizio's properties.

Oh, that's nice.

Really beautiful.

Did it sell after that?

Or will it after we see it?

It probably, it's huge.

I mean, I think it's a lot of money.

Well, that's a good cross-up for marketing.

Yeah, well, they're smart.

I don't care.

Go for it.

Are you kidding?

What else?

Why else could you do this show?

Of course.

Hello.

You got to sell your gochis balls.

You got to sell your dusters and you got to sell your high-end property.

Right?

You're stupid if you're not selling something.

You are not doing it justice if you don't sell.

What?

You're going to sell, boy, George?

I think I, who knows?

No, you have to sell something.

You have to do something.

Otherwise, why do the show?

So when the show came up, was Harry Hamlin down for it?

No.

No, don't you know the story?

Harry Hamlin said, I will divorce you if you do the show.

Swear to God.

Even after you said, but Heather McDonald at Ross's book,

party says I should do it.

Yeah, he said.

And he said, who the fuck is Heather McDonald?

I will divorce you if you do this show.

And I went, oh, okay, then I, fine.

And then I walked out of the room.

That was it.

And I was like, okay, we're not doing it.

And then what happened?

About 24 hours later,

Harry Hamlin had thought about it.

He'd had a long thought about it.

And I had already started my QVC line.

So he thought, hmm, as Harry Hamlin would do,

you'd speak like this.

I've been thinking about it.

And I think it may be a good marketing opportunity.

Just like that.

I'm like, really?

Yeah, I think we should think about it.

I went, okay.

Then he basically was his idea.

And then once it was his idea, I ran with it.

And I was like, okay, let's turn it up.

Now let's be honest.

Your Teresa flipping table's moment was broken glass.

Don't you talk about my husband with camera shirts?

Yeah.

What was going through your head?

I'll tell you, I'm gonna be flat out honest

about this moment.

I would never have expected that to happen in a million years.

We're in Amsterdam.

We're jet lagged.

You get off the plane, you're filmed, you're this,

you're that, you go right to dinner.

Right.

We sit down, not five minutes into that dinner.

There hasn't been one ounce of alcohol poured,

like nothing.

Okay.

That happens.

She brings that up.

She says that.

I know.

I know about your husband.

She just provokes and provokes.

And I just do think that she saw the movie

making love in 1981.

And that's what she was getting at.

I don't.

I think she just made the fucker up.

Just for shits and giggles, baby.

And why did you get so incensed

if it was just for shits and gilets?

Well, I think she had already really just pissed me off.

Like, I was already just pissed off.

Like, she, we weren't speaking at that point, you know,

we'd had a moment where she just, you know,

it was a little produced to me.

It felt just a little too produced.

You know, it was.

And she came in with the agenda, you know, of course.

Yeah.

It wasn't organic.

And I don't know, it just totally pressed my button.

I didn't expect it.

Would not have guessed I would ever do anything like that.

I was just flipping.

And what did Harry think?

Harry laughed.

Harry thought it was funny.

He's last to the, to this day about it.

It didn't give him a boner.

The way you just got so angry.

He did like a mother bear.

He was like, you are such a fucking rock star.

You did like that.

He loved that because I mean, you know,

it's pretty attractive, I think, when you see.

I think so.

Your spouse stand up for you like that.

Right.

I don't know.

She just pissed me off.

You know, and somebody just presses your phone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's some people that you're just never going to click with.

Never.

And you're never going to click with.

No.

There's times when you both want to,

but you still can't like get in a groove of a conversation.

It's like, you're just not.

And then I think with her, you know,

her problem with addiction and your history.

And it's like, I have siblings that have had addiction problems

and stuff.

I'm not someone that has ever taken a Xanax or an ambient.

So I don't take that shit lightly.

I don't think it's funny.

And I think that's, you know, so it's like,

you're a little not tolerant of that bullshit.

It was tricky to be honest with you.

It was really tricky.

And she comes around again, right?

The she comes around next week.

She come, they just drop her down from the sky.

They like plop her down.

I sit down at this party and they,

she just plops down across from me.

I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna shake her down.

Well, you'll have to wait and see.

I hope so.

You've seen the preview, haven't you?

Yeah, but, you know, you never know.

Sometimes they trick you with the previews.

I know.

They did that twice with New Jersey.

It really pissed me off.

They acted like Theresa and Melissa were in a fight,

but it was a joke.

Oh, really?

Or Theresa and Jaclyn, but it was like,

they're playing a prank on their husband.

Oh, I don't like that.

I thought that was a little too trickery.

No, you can't be trickery like that.

Yeah.

So it's okay that I don't know who you're talking about.

But that's, it's a shit better be like real anger

when I see it on Tuesday.

You'll see.

You know, I think what I'm going into this year

is I want to move on from that.

Like, I'm done with it.

Like, I don't want to go there.

I don't want to rehash it.

We've tried to rehash it so many times.

You're right.

I'm just done with it.

Like, I'm done.

I don't want to talk.

I want to be nice.

I want to be cordial.

We don't have to be best friends.

Nothing, but I want to try to move on.

Yeah.

That's my.

I think it's always hard with the Kyle element of it.

The Kyle element's very tricky.

Yeah.

It's super, super, super tricky because it just is.

You know, what she seems like a, I mean, it's her sister.

Yeah, period and of story.

Like, if I get into it with her sister, it's her sister.

She's going to always stand behind her sister

and rightfully so.

So it does get, it gets messy at times.

But I'm really trying to move forward

and to somehow just be done with that, you know,

because you carry it with you.

Well, Lisa, I feel like we got a lot of juice

to scoop out of you today.

I hope so.

I really enjoyed it.

It's so honest and fun.

I want to follow your footsteps.

I want to sell stuff on QVC.

It's so great.