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My God, do we have a lot to talk about?

So I had to bring one of our favorites, Zach Peter from No Filter with Zach Peter.

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So, of course, we all know what has happened with Taylor Frankie Paul from Secret Lives of

Mormon Wives.

She was the Bachelorette.

They had filmed the whole season.

It was supposed to air this Sunday, then the, um, she got in a wicked fight with her baby

daddy.

Number two, Dakota, which came out a cup a week or half ago.

It was an incident that happened February 24th.

It started to bubble up.

Oh, my God.

What is it?

Then they stopped filming on, yeah, on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives where we're like, wow,

like did some other physical thing happen?

Yeah.

Then I'm just catching everyone up.

Then TMZ received the video on Thursday of her incident that did get her arrested.

It was a felony, which then I think was downgraded to a misdemeanor.

We now one had ever seen this video of when she was physically attacking Dakota baby daddy

number two and she was throwing metal little barstools that would be on like a kitchen

island.

Yeah.

She was playing whack them all with him.

I mean, he was like dodged.

He was like the matrix dodging the bullets.

He's got his phone on.

He's filming it and in throwing the second chair that we saw, it hit her daughter who appeared

to be off the camera, but on a couch in the report.

He does say that the little girl had a goose egg on her head and we knew all about that.

That is how the series began.

That was the opening scene of, you know, that she was arrested.

They go on to have sex, not have sex.

Be together.

Be jealous.

Be cheating.

Dada Dada.

I mean, I'm watching the show and she has already agreed to be on the Bachelorette in

around episode four of season four.

She also meets this cute guy on TikTok that she picks up.

By the way, I just thought that was like, there is something weird.

You're picking up a guy you've never met before.

You're also filming a show and like she had not a speck of a makeup on, not that she needs

a lot.

But she's wearing like baggy sweats and like an ill fitting t-shirt.

That's her style.

I know.

It's kind of interesting.

I'm not into that style.

But it's kind of interesting.

I mean, I guess I don't even know if she was really into the

dude or he was just for the cloud and the TikTok and the story.

But yeah, it's so the she breaks.

So then she finds out that he slept with somebody while the dad talked people went and

did a episode of the new villa that's coming out where they're in England and she gets

all the phone with him and she's screaming at him and she's crying and she's like, did

you finish?

Did you come?

Did you?

Later on, she's in another episode.

She's telling the girls, I like to hear it.

It turns me on to hear all the different positions you put the girl in and I'm like, what

sick?

So then that's her.

They choose for the battery.

Yeah.

And they do it.

And I'm like, once I saw the video, I did, I put out an Instagram and TikTok video

where I was like, I predict they will not air this.

There's just no way.

And later in the day, they said, we're not airing it.

They, there's video of them, guys climbing up in Hollywood and taking down the sign of

her.

And so much else has come out.

I mean, what was your initial thought and we'll just walk through all the news articles?

Yeah.

I think people are getting confused because they're like, well, this was 2023, this happened

a long time ago.

We heard about it.

We saw it on the show.

But it's the fact that there are new allegations that came out.

So it was the, and it was actually two nights that she had allegedly assaulted him.

It was the 23rd and the 24th.

Okay.

What do you know about that?

So I'm assuming it had to do with custody of their son ever and like transfer of custody

of like, okay, it's your turn or whatever.

I don't know if they were sleeping together or back together or whatever, but they had

contact and it was, I believe the 23rd that they first got into a fight.

He then allegedly tried to call the cops.

She told him, no, no, I'm so sorry.

I love you.

I loved the door knob, whatever.

And then she leaves, she came back the next night and then that's when she allegedly

choked him and she left scratch marks all over his neck.

And then it was that next morning.

Choked with the necklace.

Yes.

So I assume he was wearing a necklace this was pulling me from behind or something.

And then he had scratch marks all over his neck.

And that's when I think his friend, we don't know who the friend is.

Could be Jordy.

And it could be dad talking.

It could be somebody.

But the friend saw the scratch marks and then called the police and then they came over

and took a report. But as of right now, there hasn't been an arrest or any charges that have been

filed. She's still currently on probation from 2023. So there were multiple charges that were

brought against her back in 2023 for that incident. And then she took a plea agreement. So she

took a plea deal to reduce it from a felony to a misdemeanor contingent on her completing her

probation, which was supposed to be lifted this August. So she was so close to being off probation,

had she just continued good behavior. But that's why I think ABC moved forward with her.

Interesting that she's on probation, but she was able to film in LA for all those months.

I always thought probation kind of meant you had to kind of stay in the air, but maybe not.

Well, I think it depends on the actual crime and what your probation terms are.

Whereas her, she can argue that work takes her into different states. But so ABC, yes,

was aware of all this. But I think her team went to ABC and was like, she's on probation.

She's not going to do, she hasn't done anything the last two and a half years. She's not going to

do anything to jeopardize losing her kids or violating her probation. Because then it goes back to a

felony if she doesn't complete her probation, which was set to be up in August. So the whole season

would have aired and everything. And all she had to do was just stay with, you know, not

abusing anybody allegedly until August. But I mean, whatever happened between the two of them

and their toxic cycle. Clearly she did it again. And so that's what then. So it was news of her

assaulting him again. And then I guess the wives, the other Mormon wives, they then told Hulu

were not filming anymore. Whatever the details that they heard from that incident were. And it

did happen in front of their son ever. Similar to what happened in 2023 in front of her daughter.

This time it was in front of the son. And so the other wives are like, we don't want to film

right now until they figure out what's happening with the two of them. If there's going to be an

arrest, if they're going to be charges. So they all called and I think they had a meeting with

the Disney executives and said, we're not filming until this gets resolved.

And then that's what then prompted everybody to dig up the 2023 arrest and recirculate all of that.

So of course, everybody was like, you know, that our team Taylor is like Dakota is a narcissist.

He's also this thing called Darvo, which is like deflect attack. I don't know what all the words

mean. But like basically, it's you know how to push your buttons. Yeah. And I just that really

pissed me off because I feel that's very gender biased. Yeah. If a woman, you know, is in a domestic

violence situation, you know, what? Because you told your husband get a job, you deserve to be hit.

Yeah. You know, like what are you talking about? You know, and so what did he filmed it? Do you

know that Nicole Brown Simpson had those polaroids of her abuse that she put in a safety positive

spot? Because she was like, I'm too scared to tell anybody now. Yeah. But maybe one day. So the fact

that he, if he did release it to a friend, yeah, TMZ or whatever, and he decided then to do it,

it wasn't just shine. I don't think you can think it's a piece of shit. I don't think it was.

I, I'm jealous that she slept with 24 men or whatever he thinks. I don't, I don't want,

I wanted this to ruin her reputation. I think what happened was the incident on the 23rd and the 24th

happened. And he was, you know, he's thirsty. This is his job. He's reading all of it. And people were

still defending her and going after him. He knows how to push her buttons. He's awful. He's making

her crazy. And I think because of that, he was like, it's time somehow this video gets out.

Either he gave his friend. Now the friend wrote something saying, we did not give it to TMZ.

But there's a TMZ watermark on it, meaning unlike the footage they have, which we'll get into

about Justin Timberlake, that they don't own that of Justin Timberlake being pulled over.

Correct. Technically they own this now. So that tells me someone gave it to them, gave them the

rights to it. Yeah. Maybe there was some money exchanged. And if he did, I don't know. He's,

I don't know. You know, other women would probably do the same in that position. I think it's unfair

to judge. I think it's, it's strange that people are judging the release of the footage more than

they're judging the behavior on the footage. That's my issue because everybody that's defending

Taylor and I get it. They have their theories and their speculation of like, well, we don't know

what he did beforehand. And we don't know which. Oh, like, remember P Diddy Puff Daddy said,

Cassie accused him of cheating and took all of his clothes. And that's why he had to go in the hallway

with just a towel on and beat the shit out of her to get his bag of clothes. That's what she

allegedly did before. So do we think that she deserved that? You know, like, who cares if it

of what he said or did before? She was, it wasn't one time. Yeah. He was stop, stop, stop.

And she would not stop. Yeah. She would not calm down. And even when the daughter cries,

she wasn't like, oh my God, I didn't even know my daughter was in the room with the

fuck is wrong thing. She wasn't. She didn't tend to the daughter. She didn't say, I'm sorry, baby.

She didn't call the cops. She didn't call a doctor. She didn't get an ice pack. She was

in this rage. And whether that rage can be helped with, you know, mental facilities or

drugs or whatever she needs to do. But the thing like, are you kidding me with that?

Well, not only that, but every I get everyone has their like theories about what he could have done

or whatever. But just sticking to the facts of what happened that night because we have video

evidence of it. We have body cam footage of them that night and they're telling of what happened

that night. And yes, she does say that he pushed her. He pushed her into some toys at some point

in the night. But there was a police investigation. There were there was an arrest. There were charges

and sheep before a judge pleaded guilty to doing this. And not only that, but has since gone on several

other podcast interviews, talking about it and saying I was the I was the aggressor and the evidence

showed that in court. Those are things that she has admitted. So even if you want to ignore what the

video shows and the objective evidence of what actually happened that night, but then hashtag believe

women believe her when she says I'm guilty and I'm the aggressor right. She does say this on this

one particular podcast that that this person puts together cats chat. She says as we know, I was

trying to attack him and I assaulted him end of quote, next quote. There was enough evidence

there that I was like the aggressor and I was like, yeah, I was. She also says she also went on

an other podcast sitting there crying, explaining on all saying it's not like I, you know, it's not like

it was all him like I was guilty of it like she's very and I think that's why people do love her

because she does. She tells everything. She is honest and vulnerable and everything.

And so they knew all this. I mean, when you go on one of these shows, whether you're going to be

the host, a contestant or the bachelor of at your at they look into everything. This one guy said

they found a time that I got a J walking ticket in college going to a bar. You know, certainly

there's been times where producers have missed something, whether it's a 90 day fiance person

something and they're like, oh my god, we realized his former girlfriend had a restraining order against

so they make sure there's none of that. But she's such a commodity. We're bringing the new

audience of secret wives of Mormon wives, lives to it. All the her demographic, her, you know,

no other bachelor, it was going to bring 8 million, you know, followers and all this other stuff.

So they obviously, I don't think they ever saw this video because he had it. So they did go off

of the reports and then it was doubted. And listen, when we watched it, I didn't think that she

was throwing chairs. Not to that degree. I thought I thought they got in a wicked fight. They

maybe threw some stuff at each other. Yeah. And you know, that's really bad. And then and the

daughter somehow was present. I didn't never thought it was that. And I mean, this happens with men,

you know, and it's like an NFL player gets accused of, you know, gets arrested for

hitting his wife for whatever. And he gets, you know, there's been cases. Okay, you can't plan

the next two games. And then the video comes out where you're throwing her across a room with

a baby in the corner and it's like a rag doll. Well, guess what? Now you're not playing anymore.

You know, it's like video. You just can't deny it. But I'm, I'm like, you know, now there's

so much going on with this, this girl, this was like on like Thursday night of Friday. Her name's

Jay, the fade. And she said, I don't think they even shot the bachelor. They did shoot the

bachelor. Bachelorette. She was kind of like, there was a time where everyone was going crazy.

And she was like, I don't even know because they were showing some of the, some of the dates and

stuff that she actually did go on. Yeah, they filmed it. Yeah. Like she went and went to a football

game with her guy at one of her dates. And you know, they did a chip and nails thing in Las Vegas.

And then when she picked a guy and then she picked this guy, Doug, who is, you know, he's like

a singer. He's a singer. Our friend of unpopular Jacques. He, he posted that, you know,

he obviously, he, they got engaged. He like wished her well before the video came out. He's

like, Oh, I wish you're well. And then they obviously broke up. Yeah, I think they broke up

like a month after filming. And then I was in the airport because I was on my way to Salt Lake

City this weekend. I mean, the blessings that I got to be doing instead of in Salt Lake City

four shows, which was so fun. Thank you for everybody who came and to be able to like talk about

the sun stage as it was happening because it just was so juicy. But I saw the shoes, the cover

of us weekly. Now I have not bought a magazine in years. It was 799 and only 60 pages.

Wow. That's expensive. I remember the mean like 499. Anyway, I bought it. Okay. And I read it.

And obviously this was an interview that she did probably over the phone prior to this scandal.

And she's, they all knew like everybody there. What of her questions was they said, Oh,

you talk about your mental health a lot. How is that? And she goes, Yeah, it's like a chemical

and balanced thing. And it doesn't have to do with anything that's going on. It can just happen.

And that's the hard part about it. So I was like, Oh, my God. And then there was another part. How

did you know, are you in love now or something? Or something to ask? And she's like, Well, let's

just say it ends in a very Taylor way. So, you know, that she's not with the guy. And then she's

back with Dakota. And then she's fighting with Dakota. And I thought it was amazing. And I don't

have the quote here, but the first quote that she did after the video came out where she was like,

thank you. I'm not going to stay silent any longer. Women in my position need to know what it's

like when you're dealing with a narcissist and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, silent. You've been on

TikTok for five years. You have the biggest platform. You've told everything. You have not,

you've done multiple guests spots on podcast telling your story. You've never remained silent ever.

So now we're acting like some quiet victim that's been not telling on Dakota. Like you just saw it.

But that's what people actually appreciated and liked about Taylor Frankie Paul is she was so

open and honest and transparent. And she did take accountability. She downplayed a lot of the details

when you look back at some of those interviews now. And her and the mom are like, my daughter was

never injured. And like you can clearly see the chair. It's a little like the chair flies in the

girls direction. And then she starts screaming crime right after that. Or they're like, oh, the

charges were dropped. But it's like some of the charges were dropped. But it's because you took

a plea deal. So they're they downplayed some of the claims. But she does take accountability,

which is why it was so jarring when she then issued that statement where she's suddenly a victim

who's like not going to be silent anymore. It's like, you're right. She's never been silent.

And she's never owned the victim narrative. She's constantly referred to herself as the aggressor.

And again, she pleaded guilty before a judge. She's on probation. So it just to me,

it's conflicting. And nobody likes when you lean into the victimhood narrative after we

see the footage of what actually happened. And I think a lot of people, including the Mormon wives,

I think they all knew details. Cause some people are like, oh, well, if you watch episode one,

season one, you'll see Whitney says something about throwing chairs and how we're not all like

that. And and she does make a comment because they address the scandal. But I'm like, I don't think

the girl, I think the girls knew the details the same way like we kind of knew details.

But I don't think any of them saw that footage until recently. I think that had been buried in

evidence for a long time with Demi talking to her. And she's like, oh, yeah. Why don't you stop

hurting people? And she's like, what? And she's like, you know exactly I'm talking about

talked to Dakota. So it's like kind of putting it out there. Um, you know, it reminded me

of the season of real half as a Beverly Hills when Camille grammar says to Taylor, your husband

hits you. And now we've said it. Yeah. And I always feel like Camille saved Taylor's life. Yeah.

She put it out there forced Taylor to face it to get divorced. Yeah. And kept her away from him

when he got to a place where he ended his own life. Yeah. Who knows if she would have stayed

with him. And I'm not saying that's what Taylor is, you know, capable of. But

sharing it and telling it and putting it out there is the right thing to do because it's like

and I get why the bachelor corporate people, bachelor, we're like, you know, excited about this.

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makes her life on social media was a singer has three kids and two baby daddies and she's not

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somehow this got out reality. See if you show this and it was how many times Taylor Paul had called

at 344 in the morning. There was 118 times. I don't even know how you. 150 150 total.

Oh, and this is all one night. Yeah. That was just back to back in that. Do we know what day

this was? No. I'm guessing this must have been something that involved that he was like I am

going to show the video or something because her other her husband who has she has a two kids with.

He said, I never saw that video. I if I had it would have changed everything. He

sense has gone to the court and gotten a restraining order and asking for a full child support. Dakota

has ever their child to gather the two year old boy. And I think

tell her hearing comes April 7th. She can't see him all until April 7th. Yeah. And you know,

but he's posting videos of him being dad of the year. And it's like, dude, just stop.

Yeah. Just you don't need to prove that you can make your son laugh. Yeah.

Like let the kid just be with you. Like he doesn't need a camera shoved in his face a phone while

he's not seeing his mom. Like yeah. And like he's not a great guy. Dakota is done a number of

terrible awful things on the show. We've seen his pattern of behavior. But like right now,

what are the awful things just cheating? Yeah. He's like cheat. And you can see like when they

argue like he he doesn't know how to antagonize her and he does know what buttons to push to get

her fired up. Because I think that like turns him on. I think they get turned on by how feisty they

can make each other get. And so and we've seen this toxic pattern of behavior. And he's a woman

izer and he lies and he slept with the mom's friend and like he's done. Also, they end up in bed

together. Yeah. And the cameras catching right before she's about to do the back. Yeah.

And then supposedly then she comes back from doing the bachelorette where she was engaged.

And then what I think happened is she got with him because you know, you have these.

The other thing about it, there was photos of she meeting with Doug before they canceled

it all together. Yeah. And that is very suspicious to me on the networked part. Because in the past,

it is so unlocking key who won whatever that they go to some secret Airbnb maybe once or twice

during the time so that they can spend time together. And I remember there was one bachelor at

or bachelor where they like broke up or something while they were at this like Airbnb and they

like had to bring in the cameras. And it was just like of what happened. And it was juicy.

But anyway, they cannot be seen out together at all. And the fact that somebody caught them

hanging out. I just thought they were like, I don't know what their plan was, but the network

was obviously scrambling to either keep our interest, still run it. I don't know. But normally

in the history of all of the bachelor ats, no one's ever caught the winner and the person

together prior to the show airing ever. Well, also, you have to factor in nobody's ever held

the position of bachelor at that like the public has cared about where she's the first like famous

person to hold that that could be more believable that the paparazzi may catch her. Even though I

don't think many paparazzi are following Taylor Frankie Paul in Utah. But they are now they are now

yeah, I am. So I thought that was really interesting of now. Of course, people are saying

the bachelor up men are being considered for the bachelor in paradise. That's what they

told them they they had a big zoom call when they said, we have something to tell you. It's

never going to air. And but stay nice. Yeah, because you might be get to go on bachelor in

paradise and this could go. I mean, all these guys obviously, you know, they went to go

be thirst bucket. Yeah, they went to go have a part of the other thing that said in that

us weekly magazine is that, you know, normally when we watch the bachelor match right, it's always

like, well, you live in North Carolina and I live in California. But I've always wanted to be a

Southern girl, you know, that's a few in our dating. And there's the talk of like, well,

where would you live? And sometimes they break up because they can't decide a place to live.

Yeah. In this article, she tells the reporter of us weekly, all the men knew that if they ended

with me, they 100% have to move to Utah because I have three kids and two baby daddies. So all of

these guys knew the end result was to go to Utah and get on dad talk. Yeah. And be on secret

lives more and wise and start their supplement company and become their EP their EP and also their

personal training stuff. Yeah. Whatever it is, whatever they're into doing, having a detailed

car business. I don't know. But that's what they were going to do. And so the thought is, okay,

well, maybe we'll use you for something else. But then the bachelor's Devon Strader and Sam

M are beefing him in Taylor Freaky's poll fallout. I don't know, I guess they're fighting about

something. But I also people are like, are they getting ready? Could they sue?

Well, there was a report that there are I think five guys that are banning together that are

considering suing ABC for a toxic work environment. And then there was a report that she's trying to

sue or she's considering what option she has to sue the network for because how these shows

typically work for somebody in Taylor's position, right? Where they I'm sure promised her a chunk of

money for doing the show, but they usually give you a piece in advance. And then they give you

the remainder after the show airs because like when there's a cash prize for a show, you typically

don't get paid out until after the show airs. So I'm assuming and we heard the ABC was probably going

to sue her for breach of contract for violating her morality clause. But now there was a report

that came out that says her team is fighting back against that saying that she didn't violate

her morality clause because all of the video included, even though nobody had ever seen the video,

all of the details about the contents of the video were publicly accessible. There was no

skeleton in the closet. There was nothing that she had hidden from the network like they had

already known about domestic violence again in February would violate. Yes, but their argument

to that is those are currently being that there's no charge. There's no arrest. They're unsubstantiated

claims that they pulled the show too early because she's claiming that he was the one that was

abusing her. Well, I think they have the right to pull the show no matter what. Yeah.

She should get her full payment no matter what. They hired her. She took that time away from her

family. Yeah. You know, cause her kids come first, right? And so there, I don't think there's any

claim there. I don't think there's any claim for the men who are on it because the whole point was

to find love. Yeah. If you were there for the right reasons, you didn't find love. What do you

care if it never errors or not? Yeah. You know, of course they were there. No, they're

suing for toxic work environment because they're saying that their safety was jeopardized by allowing

her to be on the set with them. Not because they couldn't get their extra 100,000 followers.

But I don't. I think that this could be the real, you know, reality reckoning. The

Bethany Franco was trying to get us to buy into because I mean, look at what happened to ultimate

girl's trip and look at what's happening to housewives right now with the Liam Mcsweeney lawsuit

and the Caroline Manzo lawsuit and the Liam Mcsweeney lawsuit is about to get real juicy.

Cause now that it's moving into discovery and now like all the Blake and Taylor text messages,

the Andy Cohen text messages are coming next. That's now that he's a defendant in this.

All that discovery is going to get pulled out. And if he, we thought, you know, the Andy Cohen

diaries was juicy, we're going to get to see emails and text messages because that it's all

going to be hashed out in public. So that'll hit. I wonder which housewife will be redacted.

We have blackmark and then you'll be able to see, wait, how long is that name?

You know, do the character or pop or no, no, it'd be like New York out, right? Right. Yeah,

it's like they're the footage that, you know, we want it's people are like, please, I've

died to see this footage of the show. There's also reports that it actually was a boring season.

But no, no, Bachelor of Bachelor. Yes, I've heard that too. But then I saw an interview with

the host Jesse prior to it being council prior to the scandal. And he was like, well, this is,

she's like no other bachelor that we've ever had because she's an experienced reality star,

but also she doesn't really know how the show works because she wasn't a contestant that came

from it. And I mean, they promoted it to be, she doesn't take any crap. And then she's like,

I'm not giving anyone a rose. Oh, I pestered him. And, you know, so she was playing it up. And

I think, you know, people were going to watch and people would have watched. And I think they

waited till the final hour. I mean, they lived, they were good. Had the video not come out. Yeah,

it was going to air. So that's why some people think maybe Dakota knew that. I have to put it out

because I don't want this to air because maybe which could make sense. Maybe she even talked

more poorly about him on this show that we would have seen. You know, she's opening up to

a guy. You know, maybe she was, maybe he was afraid she was going to say, I was an abusive

relationship. And, you know, he kept me or whatever she was going to say, I need to

want that shut down. But it got out there. And it's amazing that, you know, people are like,

oh, you're still on your phone and she's still posting and she's dancing. She's still like,

oh, yeah, I've been through this before. Yeah, she's like doing these dances. And I'm like,

I don't know. I'm like, first I was fascinated. And I'm like, you know, there's no playbook

to what she's going through. Sure. She didn't say the N word. No, she, like, while singing a song,

no one retrieved an old tweet. Yeah. It wasn't anything like that. It's domestic abuse abuse

that a woman did. We've seen it with men. Yeah. So it's like, she eats like the damage is done.

I'm going to keep being famous. And I'm going to keep going. And I'm going to just keep being me.

And yeah, she's not saying sorry. And I don't know. Maybe that is the right thing for her to do.

It's not what I would do. I mean, but listen, she's got the internet in a chokeholds. I mean,

all the people that are online right now defending her and being, you know, raw, raw for Taylor,

like it's wild, especially because her new victim narrative really contradicts the accountability

she took for this before. Right. And even like people are like, well, Dakota was just filming that

so that he could get back at her and ruin her life. And it's like, you have to remember,

this was 2023. This is before secret lives of Mormon wives was even a thing. Like they weren't

even officially filming production. Like she wasn't the bachelor. He wasn't filming it because

she was famous on Hulu. She was just some girl on TikTok that like he didn't think that this

was going to blow up. She didn't have the fame that she has now. She didn't have much fame back

then aside from being a niche little TikTok dancer. I mean, to throw a medal. She was an ensemble.

A medal. Like, look, you can see one right there. A metal bar stool that wrapped that thing could

like hit you in the eye. It's not, I don't know how you can prove it's not like, what did you say

before? Throw some of those bar shells at me and see if you can hit me a dumb bitch. I mean,

what are you saying? Like it wasn't it. If she was even just kidding him, like just

hit trying to stop his face or wrestling with him and he was holding your wrist, I think we'd be

like, okay, maybe that would be someone understandable. It's the actual picking up of the items

of a furniture. It's like she threw like what three chairs. I mean, I think she, I don't think

TV is ever going to water. But you know what? Things go so quickly. I mean, Gypsy Rosalie, Gypsy

Rosalie. Oh my God. I got a TV show. I, what did you see her? She's on TikTok down. She was,

she made a joke about killing her mom. Yeah. I saw that and that that was crazy.

Um, so now we get into is ABC going to cancel Taylor Freaky Paul season of the bachelor. If

they're going to, which they did, Hulu should do the same for Dakota when he went on the banner

from Villa. Um, there's no evidence of him beating anybody up. I say, no, I mean, we've already,

they've already Hulu Disney has already lost the bachelor. There's no reason why they wouldn't

show that episode. And that show the villa needs that boost. So they're like, no, we're going to show

the dog, the dad talk people coming. There's no evidence of him being physically abusive to

any, but like there's no reason they would pull like his behavior is the same behavior. Everybody's

been watching on secret lives. And Mormon wives are the last four seasons. Yeah. So there's nothing

that he has done recently. Now if it comes out that there's evidence that he was physically

abusive towards her on that February 23rd, 24th, you know, those two incidents and that does change

things. But like there's no evidence to support that. Yeah. And then, um, so then Jesse who's the

girl who does a huge hair empire, she has this awful husband named Jordan. And they've had a lot

of issues in their marriage. He has filed for divorce. She already, the story is that she was going

to do it anyway. And then he beat her to it. But then you said that he just filed for restraining

one or against her. Yeah. So he filed for divorce and then filed for a temporary restraining order.

She filed to oppose it. But I don't think a judge has made a decision on it as of yet.

So that's a big mess. I don't think dad talk can survive this.

Now dad talk was already falling apart this season. Dad talk was already on its last leg. It's

done. And then secret life's updates. Let us know that Zach Affleck, who is married to

Jen Affleck, who is one of the girls on mom talk who did dancing with the stars. They have three

kids. They have moved to the Newport Beach area. I think so has Michaela. She's moving LA.

And then who else is there? They were already, we already saw them looking to cast

Mormon wives that live in Southern California. Yeah. They wanted to do so, Kellyn Nashville.

Yes. And so I think that they found a couple girls. And then this, let's get the fuck out of Utah.

This way we have a clean break from Dakota and from Taylor. And we'll take the top girls that

are willing to move. Bring them to LA, which they love and they want to be here. Yeah.

And we'll bring in three or four other girls that are already established Mormons in Newport

that are third spuckets too. Yeah. And then together we have a new show. Yeah, it was

well, this was before all of before Taylor even got the bachelor at it was I think going to be

Jen Whitney and Demi that were supposed to be the stars of this new one. And then obviously

Demi fell apart with the group and like she's off doing it. She's like singing her and her husband

or they're putting an album out together. I like your true colors shining through.

It was so cringe. And like nobody knew why they were singing. Like there was no context to

the same point. I'm sad of all. Oh, what Joe you're saying? I mean the most extra is this is our

basically it's scannival. Yeah. As far as the as far as the frenzy of talking about it. Yeah.

In our zeitgeist of life. But totally different. And way sadder and darker. Yeah.

Because they involved abuse and a child. Yeah. And uh, these poor kids. I mean just like yeah,

the poor kids like not only is your whole life is being on TV. Yeah. And on TikTok and phones in

your face and your whole life. And that's what pays for your family and everything. But then

you know, you're multiple men in your life and they're fighting with you and you're

and the little girl in that article said she wrote me a note. I hope you find your person,

mommy while she's on their bachelor at another person we've already had. She's already had two people.

Yeah. Now a third one. I'm just like obviously she wasn't going to turn down an opportunity

on the bachelor. Right. But like the last thing this girl needs to do is date and find a new love.

Yeah. The last thing like if she really wanted her shit together, she should be like I'm not dating

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men or her addiction and relationships. She's like a love addict and she keeps getting caught up in

that cycle. She's a fame addict. Yeah. Because also you know you could probably not make an income

for a year or two. Yeah. And put your phone away and then if you really desire to do it after

you could come back and it could be like very interesting. I'm sure if they keep do I'd be like

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bats in Arizona with Rachel with Rachel Raquel. She does sound bats. She does sound bats now.

Yeah. So listen she's living her life. But for her she's like engaged. She's someone that she did

that you know Bethany made her do a podcast and she got rid of the podcast. She found literally

a rocket scientist that she's engaged to. Yeah. She does her sound bat thing. She's still on social

media. But like she really removed herself. But what's also good about her situation is the

show she was on also one away. Yeah it all went away. So it's like it's kind of an easier break. I

think. Now I don't think I don't know how they move. This has to be the last season of the Salt Lake

City version. I think it is and I think they're great. That's why they stop filming because they're

like let's cut our losses. Yeah. Let's stop paying all the camera men. Let's have them get rid of

their apartments. Well producers wanted the show to keep filming. But it was the cast that said

we're not filming anymore. Right. And now that I think that's why they're like okay well let's

just move everything to LA which we need more filming in LA. So I'm okay with it. Yes.

Southern California. But I don't know if this cast outside of Taylor and Whitney like if they

want to save the franchise they need to build a show around Whitney Levitt in New York. Because

she was supposed to be part of this LA spinoff with Jen and Demi and then Demi fell off from the

group and then Whitney got Roxy Hart. And so she moved to New York with she moved to her

whole family there because it's become more permanent. One of that end. Oh it's because they just

extended it. And so because she like broke box office records in like the last 29 years she's

had sold out shows not stop. Right. And so she's like and listen if anybody can save that franchise

it's Whitney even though she's had her own like problem. I remember she was like dancing in the

NIC. Yeah. Yeah. That was that that had she not dance to her child in the Nick you

and and Taylor not admitting to sucking her best friends husband's dick. Yeah. No she would not

be dancing. I mean she's good but I'm saying no one would have known about it. I mean it's like oh

oh no she's good dancer. Whitney's a good dancer and you know and Whitney and you know she had

she can do it. I mean but a lot of people can do that role. I'm sorry to say. Yeah. I mean a lot

of people have done the role. The role is about a girl who wants to be famous. So they always

like to pick a reality story or somebody who thirsty but she definitely has executed it but the

the reason she's selling out is because every all these young girls watch the show. Yeah.

And so they want to see when they do their fun trip with their mom to New York that's the show

they want to see. Yeah. So and I don't think there's a lot of Mormons in a New York city that she

can do her own version of that or whatever but I mean it could just be a show anchored around her

and her family. I don't I'm sorry. I don't think there's enough there. I would watch it. I would not

watch it. I'm just saying of all of the cast members. She's the only one that can pull an

audience. Nobody wants to watch Jen Affleck. Nobody wants to watch Makayla and her skin issues.

Like nobody wants to watch and she's now getting divorced and she just posted a thing about like

I'm getting divorced. She's not nailing. She's like teasing her divorce. This morning she posted a

video about I'm getting divorced but it means because I'm really in love with talk about my

husband. So she's teasing the fact that they've had marital issues and their marital issues are

weird because she met him when she was 16 and he was 21. Yeah. And so you wonder like

and then she's like, oh, I don't always feel sexy. So you wonder if they're in a weird

religious thing or like she their women are sort of taught to never turn their husband down sexually

and I mean, it's just yeah, I agree. I don't think I don't think any of them can hold the show

without Taylor and Whitney. Yeah, but I think for Whitney, just fine. I don't need to see her

daily life of doing the same show every night with her three kids. It can be like secret lives off

Broadway. Yeah, I mean, Broadway wives. Yeah, maybe, maybe, but maybe Schmacket tired of doing

the play too. Like after like six months, she might be like, I'm ready to go to LA and join you guys,

which I think at any time she could just like I think Taylor could providing the show is doing well

or it's not doing that well and needs a boost. They would welcome them back. Whitney is going to be

Ariana. She's like, fuck you guys. I'm never talking to any of you ever again and she's moving on

with her life. Like she doesn't want to fuck with any of these girls. Yeah, that's what I think. She's

she thought she was better than them from the beginning and now she can really be like, screw

this. I'm out. She's not going to come to LA and film a scene with Jen, like poor Jen can't even

hold a scene. Yeah. So then we finally, we got the video switching gears to Justin Timberlake.

No, that's all right. Yeah, that's his song. I always get the Tim in the back. Bye bye and sexy back.

So he was got a DIY last year or two years ago and he fought to get the camp footage being released,

but somehow it was released. He agreed to release it as long as they were dacted parts of it.

So there are pieces of the footage that did not get released to the public and that was the agreement

he made. Why does he have to agree to it? Because he was suing them. He was trying to block it. He

was suing them to prevent them from releasing it and then they came to an agreement where they settled

and he said, okay, as long as you cut these parts out, you can leave the rest of the parts in.

So he gets arrested and I mean, of all the of all the celebrities who have been arrested for a DUI,

very nice. Like he was great. He was not bad. He didn't want to go. Yeah, he wasn't like,

do you know who I am? And that was even Reese Widdish, but it was her husband who got arrested and

she was the Japanese wife making it worse. And she said it's divorce that guy. So we forgive her.

But anyway, yeah, we've seen a lot worse DUI camp footage and then he had this like friend with him,

this female friend who I think is probably just like an assistant or something and she was the

star of the show because she's just like, what stop you can't come on officer. You got to tell me

you love his mood and you start singing it. Yeah. Just do me a favor just because you love

bye, bye, bye. And then sexy back. And then he's like, and then the cop is like, um, yeah,

you're okay to drive home. She's like, what? Yeah. And I'm like, I don't think she is. And then he

goes, have you had anything to drink? She goes, oh, like a glass of wine. And he's like, yeah,

you seem fine. I don't think I don't think she was fine at all. She look lit herself.

Oh my god. So this, okay. So years ago, I'm like at the comedy store, the improv or something.

I'm hanging out with this comic. I mean, he kind of liked me, whatever. We're driving home

and he gets pulled over and he gets arrested for DUI. And he was driving me home. And we weren't

going to do anything. You didn't know that. But I just wanted to ride this before Uber. You know,

it's like hard to get her right home. And I was like, so then I did not ask drive the car home.

I didn't, I'm like, I barely knew this guy. He got arrested. I somehow I guess got a cab

back in those days and went home. My sister kind of helped because she was a criminal defense attorney.

But he was, he was so pissed. He was like, it's all because of you. I have no idea who he was.

He never made it or anything. But he was like, basically blaming me like,

if I wouldn't have been driving you home, I'm like, dude, like whatever. But it's a pretty awful

that I, but it was just like that. Like if I tried to go, wait, hold on. Let me get there. Like,

ma'am, step back. You cannot talk to them. You cannot. And I was like, so I think, I almost want to

say they, I think they drove me to the police station. They left the car there. They drove me to

the police station. And then I think my sister then picked me up or something. And then the next day,

he got out, hated me. And I don't know what happened to him.

He ruined his comedy career. I don't know, but it's like the DIY was the scandal that ended his

career. Yeah. So I thought that was, I don't think it's going to hurt him at all. No. I mean,

he was very, I mean, he's lit. He totally lit. He's high. I think he may have like taken a gummy

or something because he, he said he only had one martini and she only had one glass of wine,

but they both look pretty blitzed. And more importantly, sunburned. Yeah. When you,

when you're sunburned and you've been drinking all day, it just does not help. It's like your eye,

yeah, your eyes are bloodshot, matching your burned face. It's a beautiful day in Sack Harbor.

Like, I mean, it wasn't good. I want to talk about this. So shop alone. So there's a Jude law.

They brought up Jude law because it's one of his children. He has seven kids with four different

women. And then I looked up, wait, who did he cheat with the nanny? He cheated. So he was engaged

to Sienna Miller. There was a nanny for his first or second wife. That nanny he cheated with.

Sienna broke up with them and they got back together and they never got married. But anyway,

he has seven kids with four different women. So he should be the bachelor. And he,

so his daughter and he has a famous stepfather. Yeah. Who is a famous Brazilian soccer player who's

absolutely gorgeous. And the little girl was 11 and they're at a beautiful hotel, I think,

in Brazil. I'm not sure. It was in Brazil. And shop alone was there having breakfast. And

little girl gets all excited and is like, I think it's her mom. I think it's her. So she just

walks by and she comes back to the mom and she's like, oh, my God, it is her. I think it's her.

And then security, who the mom says she believes was part of her entourage comes over and says,

you know, some mean Brazilian man is like, you can't do that. Don't look at her and you should

teach your daughter better behavior and then she was like, well, then she should be eating in her

in her hotel room because this is a public place and we can look at people when you're sitting

in a public place. Then the stepdad wrote a horrible thing about what a bitch she was on social

media and then shop a loan. Is it her bed and bothers to do a video and was like, look,

that wasn't my security. I don't know if that was hotel security or what. I didn't tell him to do it.

I do love my fans. I never even saw this girl or your mom like, I don't know what you're talking

about. And then the mom of the little girl is like, again, not true. This is what happened.

And if this person isn't your security or if they're representing you, then you should fire them

because this is what they did. And it doesn't look well on you. No, here's the thing. I think he

may have been hotel security or restaurant security, but he would not have made chapel

rone a priority if he was not instructed to make chapel rone a priority. And I think wherever she

goes, listen, she's known to be a bitch and she hates her fans. Like, that's just those are

objective facts that we all come to accept. Well, I mean, I, the things that I've seen is that,

yeah, I don't think she likes the fandom at all. I don't think she's this person that when someone

walks up to them and it's like, you got me through cancer. I don't think it's a story she wants to

know. She doesn't care. And it could just be she doesn't care. It could be that not everybody

likes that part of being famous, not everybody. Right. Not everybody likes to do the meat and

greets like you and me. Not everybody likes it. Like I would take people out to eat. Yeah. Like

when I would be doing shows because I was like lonely on a Saturday. And I was like, let me like

treat the, you know, I like to meet my fans. That's me. But I remember even when I was doing that,

there'd be times where I'd be at a comedy club and they'd be like, wow, you, there's a lot of

comedians that are like actually introverts. And when the show ends, they don't want to talk to

anybody. They don't. So I'm like, but again, if that is your deal and you don't feel like being

recognized or approached, then go eat your breakfast in your room. I agree with them. I'm like,

don't, if you're not in a mood to be out in public and you, and you're just not in a mood,

then don't go out because if you're a bitch, we will know about it. Well, here's the,

she still goes to fashion week. She still walks the red carpets and does her photos and then

hates the paparazzi. She still puts herself in these situations where she's going to encounter

these types of interactions. And that's just part of it. Like it's like saying, I want to be in

the NFL. And then I get mad when I spray my ankle on the field. It's like you know the casualties

of the job that you're signing up for. Right. And if you don't want to do that, then I don't know

being assistant coach for the NFL. And then you're in it, but you're not on the field. And you

still get to feel like you're a part of the action. Like you get to pick and choose which pieces

you want to be a part of. But that comes with the territory that you're going to be stepping on.

And she, she, listen, she can go back to playing her little guitar on Santa Monica Boulevard.

Like she used to do. We've seen all the videos of when she was a struggling artist and then she

blew up and she's become famous and continues to do all the award shows. Just like the reality

stars. I mean, just like Taylor, the blow up is so fast. When it's so fast, when it's not a

traditional, you know, even with some rally stuff, even with a van or pump kids, it was a slow

burn to get to scannable. It was 11 years to get to, you know, send it to Darryl moments. Yeah.

Like this was so fast for Taylor. And as a performer, I mean, even Madonna had,

I mean, even Donna blew up. But even her, it was like still a blow up blow up, you know,

to a place. It was still a little bit of time. Like, oh, who is this girl? Like when her first

album came out because of the time it was, I thought she was black. I remember her music. She

sounded like a black woman to me. I thought she was black. I was like holiday. Yeah. You know,

like, it's, I imagined. And then I was like, wait, like that, like already it was a song.

And we didn't know what she looks like. Now in this day and age, it's like, all right,

right away, you know, the video, you know, this is so you're instantly like so famous. And she

became famous so fast. She did, but she wanted to become famous. Yeah. She knew what that was.

She was aspiring to be that pop star. Right. And even now she can do things to prevent access

to the public. Like there are celebrities that you never, look at Leonardo DiCaprio.

Right. You never see him. He always has his face covered. He hates the paparazzi. He wants

no part of any of it. And we don't know nothing about his personal life. He knows how to keep his

life unlocking key and only interact when he needs to interact with that. He doesn't really

walk red carpets. Like he goes to the ward shows. He doesn't engage. Like he does his thing.

So she can very much do that thing, but she's the type of person that wants to have her cake

and eat it too. And it's all about her boundaries and her aura. And you have to respect her space.

And this security guard, I'm sure was given some strict rules as to what to do when

Chapel Rone is in the room. And whether that came from her directly or that came from her team,

because her team knows how difficult she is. And they wanted to prevent some sort of issue.

So they made sure they give the hotel the instructions ahead of time. But that security guard

didn't do that out of the kindness of his heart because he was trying to protect Chapel Rone's aura.

I mean, sometimes when there's some sometimes what I've got places and they're like,

and do you want to do the secret backway walk or do you want it? And I'm like, what?

Yeah. No, I want to walk out front. Let me see me. Yeah. Um,

speaking of Vanderpump, Lisa Vanderpump has listed Tom Tom. So

the Tom, wait, so the Tom Tom, which is next to the pump, pump is still not sold yet. We only have

sur left. Pump is sold. Pump is sold. Sorry, pump is sold, but next door is Tom Tom.

And that was still going, but now it has been listed. And this guy posted it, um,

says on, says on the set on the set. I can't set. Anyway, thank you for doing that. And it's

a celebrity back night life investment is how they set it. It's kind of cute. Is that single?

Yeah, maybe it looks like he knows about real estate. Um, yeah, Seth on the scene.

What are you guys bought Tom Tom together? So anyway, um, well, I mean, are we surprised? No,

we're not, they're not, I don't think that two Tom Tom's are not part of it anymore. They

only had five percent. Tom Schwartz was still like, he would still do brunch and he would like

show up and like, be the face. I think his Lisa was like, come and entertain the guy recently.

I think so. Well, we know he's going to be on the valley. Yes. But Tom, sand of all is not

correct. And even though he wants to. And so, and now this is over with, I don't know,

I mean, unless this show is on and the show is featuring the restaurant. And also,

like, I don't think I'm like, nobody's watching this Vanderpump reboot. Like what, what

losers? Like nobody cares about them. They're, but I don't even know if like when people come out,

like a lot of people are coming out for my show in May, May 9th. And they're like, well,

what are we, what should we, you know, what else could we do? And if this was like two years ago,

it would absolutely be Sir Pump, Tom Tom one night. Something about her sandwiches.

Yes. It would be all of that. And it's just like, that's just not relevant because we're not

watching it anymore. Nobody, I don't, I'm not going to be gaslighted into believing that this

Vanderpump reboot is the breakout show of the year. I don't know a single person that's genuinely

watching it. And it's, well, just like real, how can season do you think it's because so did

New York. They're bringing it, they're bringing it back for a third time. And they're trying so hard

to shove it down our throats. This New York Roni reboot with Si and Aaron. And I like Aaron,

like some of the girls that they at least picked and just like, I get it. But like nobody's

watching that show. I mean, it's still very expensive to do a show. Even if you're paying the

talent, two dollars, it hasn't been renewed yet. Vanderpump was. No, Alex Paschkin, Alex Paschkin came

on, said it was pretty much that that report came out prematurely and that it had not officially

been greenlit by the network. I didn't even know the other day I was doing my hair. And I was like,

did they have a reunion? They did a three part reunion, right? A two part. Oh,

it was a little bit of a smaller space because it's in sir, wasn't it? Yeah, they said, this is

where we did the first one for the original. Yeah. And I mean, I hadn't watched it. So it's like,

I didn't know what was going on. I just watched like a little bit of it just to see. And I'm just saying,

like, absolutely no buzz, nothing. So I'm like, I'd be shocked if it did go.

I don't know anybody. And I think she's good to walk away. I think she's like, I'm ready to sell

all the restaurants. Do the villa and do the Las Vegas stuff. Vegas is where she's at. And listen,

she's smart to do that because Vegas is about novelty, right? So if you're going to do

novelty and lean into that, it's not going to be on Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood.

Like, it's done. Yeah. Like moved to Vegas because that's where everybody goes because they want

to go see the M&M store and they want to go to, you know, all the different. It's the most

genius thing. It doesn't, yeah, I don't think it needs to have a full kitchen. It's just apps.

And then, and then you get a $25 drink and you're gone in an hour. Next people come in, turn

over, turn over, turn over. Yeah. And she can become the name in because like they all have,

they all build like, who's it? Hell's kitchen. They did their own like spin off different restaurants

and stuff. And she can do that. And I think that that's smart. She doesn't need Tom Tom. She doesn't

need pomp. I don't know why she's keeping, she's keeping her alive for the show. But just I think

that's an ego thing of like they can't let the franchise die even though nobody cares. It's like

got zero cultural impact. Like nobody cares about these people. And so

she, but she has villa, which villa is at least a somewhat interesting things to the mom

talk. Because of dad talk. You better believe we're going to watch it because of dad. Yeah. We want

to know who Dakota fucked. Yeah. So, and that's one thing that Hulu is doing very smart is

cross pollinating all the shows. They put in the moment wives on, on dancing with the stars.

And then they tried to bring Taylor and the bachelor. But that was like an epic fail. But like,

they're trying to circulate everyone. Stasi's getting her own show. And she's on Vandipa Villa.

And like, you know, they're being smart about that. I mean, that's why they kept Nick Vial

a part of that world because he came from the batch of the world. Like they're smart to cross

pollinate. Whereas I think Bravo's really bad at that. And they try to gatekeep everything. But

in a way that like just isn't modern. That like they're gaslighting us into thinking this

Vanderpump rules reboot is a success. And I'm just like nobody's that stupid. Yeah.

Well, I'm getting on to a real house of Salt Lake City since I was there this weekend.

Yeah, for the party. The girls were in San Francisco. So they did not make my show,

which is fine because that I could talk about them on stage. But anyway, they were in San

Francisco and Bronwyn brought her new boyfriend, which she had told me about when I went to the

white party at Kyle's. And you know, she told me it was like a 32 year old model.

And I don't know how secretive it was going to be, but now it's not a secret.

How does she? She's still young, right? She's like 3840 or so. Yeah. Oh, no, this is great. Yeah.

I mean, imagine going from Todd, which basically looked like the god, the old man and up. Yeah.

To this guy. I mean, I will say when there's been some people could think that, you know,

Bravo has ruined women's lives and some lives they've ruined Liam McSweeney would say that she

was, you know, had a great life before she was on the show or whatever. I don't know what her case

is going to be. But in the case of Bronwyn, I don't think there has been a better trajectory

of getting out of an, like, basically a transactional marriage to start where you're a much

younger woman. And you are, you needed someone to support you and your daughter, you know,

and you had that for a few years, but he was a mother fucker and you didn't enjoy him and you

didn't like him. Get on a TV show. Now you have the fame and the career and you get to fuck a 32

year old and you get to bring him on the show and parade him around Heather cake who's been single

for five years. Who's never had a boyfriend. I know. No, is that big is getting her fucked.

Erica Jane, this was supposed to be her trajectory. She was supposed to leave Todd. She got divorced

and then boom, the whole legal scandal crumbled right before her eyes. Listen, Bronwyn's doing it

right. And she's, listen, I think housewives is dying. I think it'll be done in a few years. I

think it's just kind of growing obsolete and bravo needs to find ways to keep re, you know,

reimagine and they're trying, right? They did like the hotel show and ultimate girl's trip was

great until Caroline Manso fucked it all up. And then, um, I've been seeing these, you probably

seen these videos since the thought I did not create the idea, but it was pretty weird. It's like

what footage would you most like to see that we'll never see, which is the ultimate girl's trip

Morocco where Brandy Glenville allegedly, uh, you know, did something with Caroline.

The other one was the, um, the van with Kathy Hilton and Lisa Rena. Oh, we asked Ben, yeah.

Post when they didn't play Michael Jackson at the DJ and she was cursing the DJ in a sexuality

other way home. And then what was the other one? I think I did see there was like,

there was like two other ones of like things. Oh, the plain footage of Meredith and Brittany

that there's no footage of that. But there's, we're not sure there's any footage.

There, but there was like two other ones where I was like, yeah, you're right. Um, yeah,

good for her. I would love to. I think we may get Morocco unintentionally. If Caroline's,

if what happens with Leah's lawsuit happens with Caroline's lawsuit, the issue with Caroline's

lawsuit is they're fighting over jurisdiction because it happened in Morocco and like it's,

it's tricky. Um, but I mean, listen, if there's anything Blake lively taught us, it's that none of

your text messages are safe. None of the footage is safe. And all of the Morocco, if anything ever

happens with Bravo, they really go, they just need to start a patriotic. Yeah, people would pay so

much. And it's like all of this stuff. And they're like, I'm done. Yeah. Done. I'll pay for it. Andy Cohen.

Yeah. Andy Cohen's Patriot. Yeah. But I think we may. So they, from my understanding of the

Caroline Manzo lawsuit, they have all of the footage, all the episodes edited. They have the

masters. And then they have like the raw footage, all of which was, has been submitted in court.

It's just currently under seal. But like Liam McSweeney was able to push her lawsuit to go to trial now.

And it's going to be played out publicly. So I'm hoping Caroline pushes a little harder,

because if we, if they're not going to error for us, then at least drop it on the doctor.

Yeah, I don't know where that's going. What's happening with it with the Caroline and

Brady. It's still in hope. Yeah, they're still trying to. So this was just in Kelly Osborne is

engaged to this guy, Sid Wilson. He's a singer, I think. They've been together a long time because

they have a child who was born in 2022, but they were engaged. And now the engagement is off.

Because she lost too much weight. I mean, of course, you know, after her dramatic weight loss,

a lot of people criticized that. That was from New York Post. It said Kelly Osborne and

fiance Sid Wilson, you reportedly split after her dramatic weight loss. Well, she's been,

I mean, pretty skinny for a while. You know, who knows why people break out? I looked at her

love life. I mean, she's had a lot of significant others throughout her 40 years of life for whatever

she is. I don't know. It is dramatic. It's really dramatic in her face. That's what I think people

kind of like freak out about. Yeah, it's very gone. But I want to talk about a little bit about

real housewives of Beverly Hills. So I was following Amanda. The manifestation queen. Yes. And so

she told a story on her Instagram that I thought was kind of interesting. And she's like,

I want to talk about when you celebrate the haters. So I was going to get some

a side bowls for my children in Bretwood. And I had several kids in the car. And I left them in

the car. Now I'm hoping that there was a nanny in the car because no one talked about that in

the comments. But I was like, and I went, I was like, I need whatever her little kids names are.

I need one a side bowl for this one and the other. And when I walked in, the girl working there was

on the phone. And she didn't immediately get off the phone to help us. And when I worked at all

my multiple jobs before I was a billionaire, I would always know that the person in front of you is

you give attention to not the one on the phone. So finally, I said, I just wanted a side bowl with

just strawberries and chocolate. And she said, do you want the granola? And I'm like,

I told you, I want it just with the strawberries and chocolate. It was taking a really long time.

So then I had to go back and check on my kids. And then when I came back, I said, could I just get

a little more of the cocoa chunks or chocolate or whatever. And she said, that's going to cost

more dollars. I said, fine, fine. And then what I did, I tipped her $100.

Because that's what you do.

I was like, okay, wait a minute. First of all, the girl's not a hater. She's a young Jen

Zier who's working at a place for minimum wage. You're agreeing to overpay for a $25 breakfast for

your kid every day. They, they knew where to put this place in your neighborhood. Because you

dumb bitches on your way to drop off will spend that kind of money. And this young girl is working

there. And no, no one trained her. What do you want? She doesn't, she's not hating on you. She's

fucking waiting on you. And she's told, if she does another scoop and there's cameras everywhere,

she's got to charge your ass for dollars. Yeah. So I do think it's nice that you gave her $100

because that $100 is going to mean a lot to her a lot more than it would to you. But it doesn't

even go to her. It goes to the collective pie of all of the, the, of the iPad registry. Yeah.

I guess you're right. Well, then everybody got it. And since no one saw it in me to video,

make sure you go home and let the world know that you're a good tipper. Because otherwise, it

doesn't go in the universe, I guess, unless you say it, it may take, make a tick talk about it. She

should film herself passing out $100 bills down Skid Row. Boom. She probably will. You don't

have to go to Skid Row anywhere. You manifested money. You manifested money. Yeah. But I mean,

she is the only kind of interesting thing about the show. And I will say that. They were,

so they were in Italy. Did you watch it? I did. And what did you think of the episode? There was

a little action at the end. I'm trying to remember what happened. With that girl, who's that girl?

They put that random lady on the show. Every time I see that random lady, I'm like, who's this

damn lady that lied? She lied about the bows and the mask thing. That was such a dumb conversation.

Then I was like, you know, on a watch run's live, they were all like, oh, yeah, it was just,

it was a misunderstanding. It's fine. But you know, nothing's happening in Italy except for them

shopping. So I know the producer probably had to go up to Kyle and go make a bigger deal out of

the fact that that the new girl said, oh, everyone has masks. Who's Pinocchio? I mean, who's

a liar? And then, and then Bose goes, I don't know, Amanda. That was it. Like Bose was the thing.

I was like, it was so, so she's like, what? Oh, God, I guess we have to make a big deal out of this.

And then Amanda's like, maybe, oh, God, that was an earthquake. It was air conditioning.

I was going to show what's when we caught an earthquake. It was when I had the desk and I got

under the desk. Oh, my God. I hate it. It was like a total news moment. Like I totally, anyway, so

she, um, she's like, well, I'm from a generation that has boundaries. And I'm like, when you say,

when you, if people, if people, younger women really do feel about like that, but I don't think

it's a whole generational, but I'm like, then the show can't exist. You know, and it's like,

but it is kind of interesting. And they're just like, what? We, we have to like,

fight and talk shit about each other. This show is, I couldn't believe it. I went to go look

for the episode. And on my peacock, it's in 26 episodes. I go, wait, what? And then I realized,

oh, no, watch on his life isn't it, too, but still we're on like 13 episodes. I know.

I'm not a lot happening, but like, well, it's at the end though, because they just filmed the

reunion. It is. So there's only like four, there should only be like four, five episodes left.

But even so, like what's left in the four episodes? And we've been waiting for the,

I went to the party. What party? I didn't even know they'd be, I did not know they were filming.

They asked me to go to a party to celebrate Nikki Hilton's jewelry line. And I'd

bend his stuff at Nikki's house that was not filmed where she'd have like pop up stuff.

So I just thought it was another like cute pop up thing. And then I was like, oh,

they're filming like the filming the show. Anyway, they didn't call me because they, I guess,

never got a release. So I said, yeah, of course, like, I'm not going to be. No, cut me out of the scene.

Learn my face. Yeah. And so anyway, once again, it's just like a, where's Waldo, like,

thirsty Heather in the background of a party. But anyway, they did get into it.

Was this the finale? I think this was the finale. I think this was the finale. Something else

happens in Italy that we're going to see. Yeah. And then because they were fighting about Italy

with Doree at this table. And I'm holding back and watching it with Kate Hudson manager

of Britney. He's really good fun with Nikki Hilton. And we're both like, like, we're just watching

it. And I could hear it. And it was just a lot of yelling at Doree. Like, it sounded like Doree

like left them stranded in Italy. I don't know. Something happened where like, I don't know,

it's not like she's in charge of a jet. So I don't know how she left anybody when you've got

camera crews. It's not like anyone could be left like all of a sudden when you're not going to

get in the van. Like what, you know, but they were just mad at her, you know, and they kind of

allude like they're getting annoyed that she's late for everything. And yeah, I mean, she is a little

she's like, no, I mean, that's my personality. Not okay. Like not super. I understand.

It's a job. And that's why they're mad. They're not just mad. If we weren't filming and we were

having dinner and I'm like, God, you know, Zach, you're always late, which you are the most

non-late person, neither am I. But like, you know, whatever, it's like, no, we all had to be here

on time. Like, we have to be ready. I don't know. Then she talks about how, you know, she's

going to sell the house on watchrooms live. She said, he's bringing the foreclosure up and then

they're going to sell it. And then she and the kids will find something else, which is again,

it's sad because you know, she's going to end up renting. Yeah. Because she's going to want to

live in a glamorous place instead of buying a house. And you know, here you've been on the show

for all these years. And what will you have to show for it? If you don't even like end up

owning a home at the end of a 13 year marriage, being on a show for 10 years. And I mean, essentially

that's Shannon Bedore. Yeah. Started off in a $16 million house. And is, you know, on the show for

17 years or whatever it is, and still just renting a house. It's like, what? It's all, and then

the amount of stuff they bought, all of them buying stuff, but they, but they go and all the,

I don't mean saying these words, right? Because I don't buy them. Yeah. Dore was just buying stuff

for that person. Yeah. And the most, she's like, I bought four Gucci purses. Gucci really,

you need four Gucci purses. What are you doing? When you're going through divorce, I agree with Kyle,

what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. I agree with Amanda. Stop fucking talking about him. He's your

source of income. You don't want to piss him off. You don't have to be generous. Not only that,

but if she's going to try to prove in court that she's dependent on his money, then she can't be

saying, yes, I bought a Kelly bag with my book advance. Like, she can't be flexing about having

her own money and then blowing it on all of these things. If she's going to prove that she had

some sort of financial hardship as to why she deserves spousal support. Like, there are certain things

you don't think of is, do you make, is it a better deal to buy in Europe, all this shit?

Like, is the dollar that much better or worse? I don't think it's that much. I still don't think

you need four Gucci bags. No. And I don't think the price is that significantly different. Yeah,

it's not like it would be 10,000 here and it's like 4,000 there. The only reason I know you buy

that type of stuff in another country is because there are different items available there that they

might not be here because all of the items are limited like with Birken bags. Like, they're so rare

and limited. Like, that's why you have to like, source them and go, you know, get them from here or

there. I feel like that. Like, where is that? Who cares? Yeah. So, yeah, I don't think she needs

four Gucci bags and all the clothes that she, like, she's just, she's a spender, but that's going

to come back to bite her because God forbid, she loses housewives. Then what is she going to do?

Yeah. We're just make sure it's insured in case she gets robbed. Oh, yeah. Again. Again.

And then yeah, so let's hope not. Okay. Teresa did a beautiful post with Melissa with the

songs of birds of a feather. We belong together. Happy birthday, Melissa. A.K. sister-in-law,

LOL. Why is that funny? We've truly been through it all and somehow always find our way back to

each other. Thanks to the show. Yeah. The show brought you apart. Yeah. Torio apart, but it also

brought you back together. Yeah. I hope your day is filled with much, so much happiness and love.

I'm really grateful that we're back in it. I'm grateful for that too. Yeah. You're a family,

the cousins, all of it. Who can, like, I'm not mad about it. No, I do love. Who is it? Not

good for them. Antonia, is that Melissa's daughter's name? Yeah. She's on TikTok and she's

watching all the old seasons of Jersey. That's fun to see because she's watching, like, the

Christening for the first time. Yeah. She's crazy to think that they're old enough to do TikToks

and watch it now. Good for her though. She's in college and that's a really smart thing to do.

That's a really interesting thing to do. And people are hooked on it. Yeah, because they don't know

because they didn't watch it back and they were just used to it's like a person in the corner with

a camera. They still lived their life and all the kids on all seven of their kids, the three

Gorgas and the four girls are lovely. Yeah. And seem to be raised really, really great. Yeah.

So I think that's, you know, the story, the rumor is them and Dolores. Yeah. And then what,

four new people? I guess. Yeah. It's like no food. No, what's yet? What was the other

growth? No more gray. Who was Danielle? No Danielle? No Jen Aiden? No, just Kessler? I'm good

without Jen Fessler, honestly. Yeah. I don't think anyone's clamoring or what's the other one?

Gold finder. Oh, Jackie Gold Schneider. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think anyone cares. But that's a good one.

This one I saw a reality TV fan said that there's supposedly a new show. I've seen a few reports

on this that's going to be like an ultimate girls trip, but for different reality stars.

So it's like a traitors where they mix a lot of reality stars, but it's a girls trip. And supposedly

it's tomorrow from, you know, tomorrow, Braxton, Kim Zolziak, Kenya, Margaret from New Jersey,

Christine from Selling Sunset, Brittany from the Valley and Vanderpump, Kaitlyn Bristow,

from Bachelor Jen from Bachelor. I don't know who she is. She is. Hilaria, you know, Baldwin,

Julie Chrisley and Savannah Chrisley. That's too many girls. There's too many. I think this

is someone just made this up and they're well taking a shit. I don't think this is. Yeah, this is

too. No, it's too rare. And like how many people do you have? You're big three shows out of

that you only need like, like, I think the ultimate number for something is like five or six.

Yeah. Because you just got to have enough where one could be ostracized. Yeah. And you could

batty up with like one person. Yeah. Like, unless these are all in consideration and the cast

hasn't been finalized. But like in what world do you see Brittany and Margaret Joseph's taking

shots together on the beach? When they go on trips, it's true. I've been on a girls trip before.

You need about five or six people to have fun, to have a little bit of drama. And then

the funnest trips are when one girl is kind of like fucking annoying everybody. And then you're

like, let's go for a walk. And then you're like, I'm so annoyed. Like, it does kind of bond you

together. It does kind of make it fun. Anyway, Lizzo stripped down to meter form herself. It was a

little confusing. It's a photo of Lizzo with dark hair and Lizzo with blonde hair. But

the blonde hair and Lizzo is the new Lizzo. You know, she lost a lot of weight. And it's like,

she did a video with, I don't know, with AI made like another naked version of herself.

Is it AI or is it like a wax figure? I think it's like AI. I think it's like in post. They

probably just it's a music video. So it's it's a music video. So they're moving around. So

she just had like a green square for a green screen. Yeah. And then she's getting fucked in the

ass by the old Lizzo. No, I think it's like a mannequin. Is she wearing skims? Maybe. I don't know.

And the new Lizzo. I don't know. What do you think? I thought it was really funny when you talked

about your high-diad laughing at that one video said about Jillian Michaels was doing explain it.

So she did a Jubilee video where they like sit you down and they have like 20 people that you

like do a debate with. And so she was debating like 20. Jillian Michaels is a fitness person from

biggest loser. Right. I just remember. And so she sat down and she was debating 20 body

positivity activists. Okay. And so it's everything from like you. Well, so apparently I learned that

they you're not allowed to call them obese anymore. And so now they prefer to be called fat

bodied, which I don't ever call me that. Like as somebody that used to be fat bodied,

I know when I was in high school, I was very thick. And I would never like that is an assault

on on my soul to call me fat bodied. But so they're fighting with Jillian Michaels about like

don't use the word obese. You have to be called fat bodied. And like that's the term that they're

embracing. And you have like therapists who are like we have to call it the O word. And like it's

just so weird because then and then on the other hand, everybody's obsessed with Kelly Osborne.

Yes. I think the new era just needs to be listen, body positivity is a story. No body positivity

used to be a thing until ozampic came and then nobody cared about like and I don't care what

like what happened to calling them brave. Like let's just say let's just say everybody. Just do

your thing. Just do your thing. Like just love yourself. And we don't need a time where you're like

you had to be secretive about ozampic. Yeah. Otherwise they were going to like knock on your door

and like burn you to the and now everyone can be on it or not. Who cares. Yeah. Like who cares.

But like Lizzo is a perfect example of that of like she went from body positivity to ozampic.

But then I feel like she kind of lost something. So that's why I think she's doing this

controversial. Well, I mean, it gets us talking about. Well, she had that lost you against her

remember. Yeah. She had the like dancers that she was mean. She was mean and she like

sexually harassed them or something. Yeah. But I think now she wants to get back into music. Yeah.

And she has a new song coming out. And so she's like, why are my dancers when I can harass myself?

I can rest a former version of myself. Um, I mean, I always loved her music. So like I don't care

what you look like, Lizzo. Just like make some good songs I can jam out too. Um, okay. Megan

Markle has left Netflix millions of dollars in the hole with the severed as ever deal. They never

saw a return. What do we think is going to happen to her? I mean, did they think they were going

to see a return? She's also boring her. Oh, she is a luxury flower thing. She was doing something

where she's like show like talking to her. She was doing something and then the child comes in.

But we don't get to see a little bit. And she like comes in the perfect angle like it's hidden.

So it's like she put her camera there and she's like, yes, my love. Okay. I think you can do that.

And then it's like, oh, we got a glimpse of little bits, hair or whatever. This and the kids

are going to be on the camera when she's holding the kids out as her final final thing. Eventually,

she will have some type of reality show or ensemble. And that's when we'll see the kids.

The reveal. That's when that's when the kids will start talking. She's running out of tricks.

Everything she tries just keeps flopping. Did you watch the show?

I watched a little of it with love Megan. Yeah. And then nobody watched any of it after that.

Everyone watched like the first episode or two. And then like, no, it was so boring.

It was really boring. And unless you were making content about how boring it was,

you like, no one was just like unless you're going to get a video out of it or something,

like, no one was watching it for actual tips of what to do. Well, because it was so unrealistic.

It's like, let me go into my backyard with all of my bees and let me get the honey. And then we're

going to extract the honey to make candles out of it. And it was like, who has time to spend four

days making a candle? You can just go to home goods. Like, there's no point in that. It was so stupid.

The one that I saw she was doing the sourdough bread. And even she was like getting annoyed at it.

By the end, she was like, wow, this has taken like four days. Like, I had to leave it over here

with like a wet cheese towel on or however you make sourdough bread. And I'm just like,

I mean, there was an expression back in the day where people like, greatest things and slice

bread because you don't want to make your own bread. It was a huge, it was a huge thing. When I

went to Pompeii, okay, it was the best thing I did in Italy. You can walk through like where

the town of like before Jesus, okay, the lava came over and then they found the town. So you

like walking through, they actually had bakeries back then. Even back then before Jesus came,

people were like, I don't want to make my own fucking bread. Yeah. I want to go to the bakery and

get a lot of work. I mean, I know sourdough bread is like a thing people do now, but like, I don't

know anybody that's like truly enjoying that. I did buy some sourdough bread from some girls.

Yeah. They look real Christian. What is the thing with sourdough bread right now? Everyone's

so into the sourdough. I don't know. It does taste good, but it is good. Last thing before we go,

Ramona was lit over the weekend. I like a lit Ramona. Thank you to Jen, to Kris Jenner's secrets

who caught this moment. And she's filming the show, the e-show. Uh-huh. Golden lives, golden life.

A golden life. Yes. And she comes back and she is lit. And she does a video. She's like,

she's like, wow, I just had the best time with my girls. It was Lou Ann and it was Derinda

and it was Sonia and Kelly and a couple of other people and Avery and it was, I just love my life.

I love my life. And Palm Beach and I got my girls. I'm just having great time and had a great night.

Good night. That's going to be good. I missed them. So I first I was kind of over it when they

fired Jill and I was like, I don't care about anymore. But now that we're seeing little bits of them

hanging out together and we're seeing it all get like, probably really fumbled the ball by letting

them go. Yes. I think it's going to be a hit. I think, you know, it'll open the door to other

things and, you know, maybe give E a second life. And we give E a second life. Oh,

big of E. They also did this thing about the price is right with Bob Barker. And I have not

watched it. But they, I guess he was had an intimate relationship with one of the girls.

And then this one said, Holly Halster calls says Bob Barker forced her into an early

retirement over the show's scandal. She said, I hate that man. And she tells a story.

The clip I saw that one of the girls, I think, who was it? I can't remember which one her name was.

This beautiful blonde. But she said, they got in a fight like a screaming fight in his dressing room.

And she goes and someone chases her and is like, you have to apologize to Bob Barker. You have to

apologize to Bob Barker. And she turns around in front of the whole set. And she said something to

the fact that I'm trying to think what she said. It was like, I've sucked that man's dick so many

times I'm not going to now start kissing his ass. No, yeah, it was even better that she goes,

I'm not going to start kissing his ass now. That was it. Oh, man. And so that I was like, I saw

that clip from that's a documentary on E. And yeah, that he was just a misogynistic dick who,

I guess, had relationships with the women. And but he always made sure those dogs were spayed and

neutered. That's what he always said at the end. Zach, you've got so much going on in your life.

And you give us so much content and joy. How could five people find more Zach in their life?

Zach Peter all over the internet and watch Noville to Zach Peter five days a week.

Go to Heather McDonald dot net for me, for the Patreon, for everything else. Thank you.

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