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Brandy and Julie, Jax VS Brittany and The Love Bombing of a Fake NFL 49er

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Brandy Howard and Julie Goldman are finally back, we open the show with the latest shocking legal updates surrounding Jax Taylor and Brittany Cartwright, breaking down Jax's explosive retaliatory restraining order filing, drunken physical assault accusations, and claims of lost TV deals like Special Forces! Then, we get into the craziest grifting and love-bombing story you’ve ever heard: the unbelievable saga of Dejon Love, the fake 49ers player who swindled over 25 women out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. We take a side-splitting detour into those high-pressure mall kiosk salespeople trying to sell you free eye cream, consider yourself warned! Then we go deep into The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, dissecting what makes the franchise unique (and where it falls a little boring), including a deep dive on Vicki Gunvalson's grand scheme upon accepting her orange and why she's top-tier entertainment even while doing the bare minimum. Finally, we ask the million-dollar question: Has Jennifer Aniston found the greatest boyfriend in the world, or is she being love-bombed by a hypnotist life coach? -Our listeners can buy one pair of glasses and get 20% off any additional pairs at ⁠WarbyParker.com/JUICYSCOOP⁠ -Order now at⁠ drinkwillies.com⁠ and use code JUICY for 20% off your first order plus free shipping on orders over $95, and live like a legend. -Use code JUICYSCOOP at ⁠jonesroadbeauty.com⁠ to get a Free Gift with your first purchase! #JonesRoadBeauty #ad -Find the fall pieces you’ll reach for most at Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to ⁠quince.com/juicy⁠.  -Our listeners get a FREE MONTH of Primal Queen plus FOUR FREE GIFTS at ⁠PrimalQueen.com/JUICYSCOOP⁠. #ad Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: https://bit.ly/juicycrimes Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod https://www.patreon.com/cw/juicyscoop Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopTZFUvAeokrJJ6dQ5wuAW1T3nssO6pHk47u7KymJUBtBgKCvfX Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Heather McDonald has got the juices scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go. Juice is scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales. Her real life, Mr. St.Van Cereal Data and Cereal System You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tab Lloyd Real LifePod can. Listen in, listen up. Heather McDonald. Juice is scoop. Hello and welcome to Juice is scoop. You have been crying, you've been begging. You have wondered if this thrupple broke up over the summer. We did not. I have your favorite girls. The smart to sexy. The stars of Dumb Gay podcast. Dumb Gay politics podcast. The whole Shebang. We have Julie Goldman, Brandy Howard. Fresh from the beautiful Phoenix Arizona theater tour.

And I'm so happy to have you back at Juice is scoop. I missed you guys. We missed you too. I can't tell you how happy we are to be a whole. There weren't as many juicy long conversations either. No, we would hear that from talking to different friends. And we'd be like, oh, we haven't heard from her. That's the biggest lie. I would constantly write you guys and be like, yes, we were. I think that you don't call me because you know that you got to put a, you got to set aside at least 40. 46 to 100 minutes. 120. I also want to let you know that to be quite frank, when you would ask us to call you, we were sleeping. And I don't care if it was three o'clock in the afternoon. And I would go like this to Julie and go, don't fucking tell Heather we were sleeping. Well, wait, well strippers and showgirls. Correct. Sleep in the day and perform at night. And that's what you guys were doing with your show.

Yes. We nightmare on strip street. Yes. Which will be in Los Angeles. Yes. For the spooky October season. Yes. Which we are all going to be so excited to go. Oh, I mean, everyone has to come. The show is so fun and just great. But we, while we're in first of all, it was 115 degrees every day. Okay. So I couldn't, even if we could go outside, there's nothing you can do because it's like being an air fryer. So I couldn't, I couldn't function. We couldn't function. I couldn't particularly function at all. So the day time was spent sleeping. And then we would get up and do the show. And then at night, it was just like from the show. Yeah. And it's still, it is still very hot at night too. It's never not fucking up there. It's never not hot. It's never not. She just was not being hot. Well, in this time of year, it doesn't stop being hot. But then it does. Yes. Well, yes. And I'm not good in, in the heat. I'm terrible.

I was already terrible of the heat. And this was like, it like ultimate, the ultimate. I missed the, missed the hot nights. Yeah. It's also here in LA, like the mid-school. It gets hot. Yeah. And suddenly you're like, I was hot all day. And now I need like a light cardigan. I got a meeting that, well, should I, I thought that the night, um, heat was really fun. But it, it's just, it's really bad for Julie's mental health. I mean, this is just being honest, being vulnerable. Like, she turns into a different person and, and so, okay. And it's great. But, but now you're back. Yes. And we're going to get into some juicey scoop. And we're in LA now. When, next time we do strip treats. Oh, yes. Of course. I'm just going to be all positive. And, and going to be there. And, and we're going to be there. It's going to be something. Okay. So some juicy stuff, juicy sad, but drama. We know our friends from the Vanderpump rules and the valley. And first, what happened was, Britney, Cartwright.

I don't know if they're officially totally divorced yet, but they've been separated. She and Jack's Taylor for about two years. And at the end of last week, she filed a temporary restraining order, which was granted, which just means temporary on Jack's. And in it, she wrote a long declaration of everything that's happened in the relationship that would constitute her getting one from even before they got married. Now, I go into this great, um, great detail on juicy crimes, which just dropped. So you can listen to that with my sister Shannon, who does deal with this kind of stuff in her practice. I will say it's pretty crazy that this went from juicy scoop to juicy crimes. Yeah, I did. And I have to do a little update, but that's crazy. I did a little update at the start of this because Jack's then rushed and got, and asked for his own temporary restraining order against Britney. And that just happened on this past Tuesday. So, um, he is saying that she is keeping him from getting work

and that he was all set to do special forces, which paid 175,000, which I did not know it paid that. Wow. And now you're applying. Honestly, what now I'm interested because I was like, I, that is the worst one. And did it and I asked and Dr. Dre never told me what he made. But he got sick like the first day, really sick. And she left to the first day, Britney. And that's right. I brought Britney did it. She left the first and, um, but like, Gio went really far and Tom Sanable. Did he already do it? Yes, he's going to be okay. He already did it. And, you know, but they make you like jump out of the helicopters. It's the jumping out of the helicopters into the ocean. That doesn't scare me. That wouldn't be scary. It's just walking up the hill. It's the little running. It's the walking up the hill. They hand you a backpack that's 50 pounds and they go, can you just run for three miles and it's like, absolutely not. Oh, but I put there yelling at you. I know they're yelling it. I don't like them yelling at me while I'm running,

but in a small, in a closed room, the hot British people, men yelling at me, I'm okay with that. Oh, yeah, it's like, wait, what? No, I have trouble. Yeah, no, it's been so hard. Which one of you wants to? I can literally see Peter right now just like, so she's athletic. Yeah, she has very long legs for longs and great. Like, my dad was a Marine. That was your whole story. Is that like, I'm pro Marines. They came to my dad's funeral. Like, I want to feel like what he went through, being the news past. Yeah, I'm down. I mean, honestly, now I'm thinking this is better than like, wearing character shoes and doing dancing with the stars. It's ways. You know, I'm going to learn a long routine. If you have to back out of a helicopter backwards, do 20 backwards, you just have to go like this and jump. And for some people that aren't strong swimmers or they're scared of heights, it's scary. But what about the one with the early cars? You're in the car.

There is one of the hot brits with you. Yeah, and then they submerge the car. And you've got 30 seconds to get the scene. They get to swim through the window. I mean, first of all, I know I'm not going to die because all the people are there. Right. But I kind of want to know if I can do that. Because that's always been like my biggest thing. You know how they sell those little things? Like in case this happens to you and your car, like your GPS takes you into a lake, then you just happen to have that little knife that'll cut the glass or cut the glass and cut your seatbelt. Yeah. Well, what about when they shove, G is facing to the mud. When, oh, in the mud. He stepped on her head. I would get arrested on that show. You want to talk about like, something you're problem with men. By the way, not for nothing. I would lose my mind. G is seasoned is so good because Teresa is on there. And then they made you die. So love how about this other for you? So they get a motor in a circle. And it's good because it's like Brianna chicken fry. That season was great. They get in a circle and they're like, okay, you guys are just going to fight each other.

Like straight up. Bare knuckle, like fight each other. And Teresa, Teresa is like, I quit. Like, I'm not going to watch my daughter fight someone. Yeah. So she has to quit even though she was doing quite good. But Gia was helping her. I mean, Gia was so good. Yeah. Are you going to bare knuckle fight? Like, you know, I would be like this. What if it was Shannon Bedoro? I would be like this. Like, what if it was Shannon Bedoro? I would be like this. And then you guys would fight. Or two cuts in a zoo. I would Shannon Bedoro. The only fighting I've done is with Tamara. And we didn't cut hands. What would that be like? Me too. Imagine her even walking up the side. That's a hell. Listen. I definitely would win in the any fight. But I just want us. So anyway, this is what he's saying. I think it's a hard thing to prove that, A, you were up and pitched for something. And then you didn't get it. And then to say it's because they would have already done a background. They would have already known everything. The public figures.

It's literally been all over a hit TV show. So I don't think it was 1 DM. From Britney that made them decide it didn't work out. But he's got the PR girlfriend that used to be her PR agent. And he said he also lost like seven other opportunities, probably brand deals. And so he's saying that this is what she's actively doing. And then he was very critical of her mothering. And which was stupid. Right. And so I mean, we know how dedication. But whatever that's what's going on. She could be a great person. And then she went and goes, no, I'm going to get a temporary string on against you. And that honestly is what happens in these divorce custody cases. And this is a tactic that's used. Well, if someone got one against me, I'd be like, I'm immediately getting one against you. Yeah, you're the problem. Yeah, it's not me. Yeah, so they don't come near me then. I think sometimes people think like, why did you say, fine, who cares? I don't want to come and knock on your door anyway. I don't want to come in. I don't want to come in. I don't want to come in. I don't want to come in.

I don't want to come and knock on your door anyway. But in getting jobs and stuff, it's the thing that pops up. Background checks. Yeah. Going to rent a place it comes up. So that is why you do try to defend yourself to not have that granted. So that's the homes up in all your. Yeah, it's like you, it, because otherwise, when, you know, I know people are probably like, fine, what do I care? I'm not knocking on your door. Like, I don't need to come in a hundred yards of you. It's, it's that that person then got something on you. And then you're perceived as the person. You know, whenever we find out that like somebody on the bachelor or whatever didn't do their homework and they're like, and you know, he has two restraining orders against him from ex-girlfriends and you're like, that doesn't sound good. So this is, this is like a full on war. I do want to say that I think that it's really sad. It is super sad. And I feel like Brittany went along for a long time, like, you know, keeping a lot of secrets. I honestly think that publicist thing broke her.

And because, and now we had already heard that he was like, being a publicist like last year or two years ago. Yeah. They were at Jackson's bar. And maybe she just didn't believe it because that, but I think it was that. It was like that girl was her friend. She was her publicist. I think then she was like scorched or bitch, you're dead and you're done. And everyone's going to know everything. Yeah. And I've got, and she does. We go through it on the just the point. And as much as I do feel sorry for all the other. Because he has built his life in this industry and now it appears as though he was going to have to maybe go get his physicians assistant, you know, license real estate license. Yeah. I feel, I do feel bad for him for that. But it was like, we could have knocked any money, but you had a fucker friend. And now you're dead because that's what we do. That's what girls do. Okay. Really, really a wonderful summary. It is. You really have a way with words. This episode of Chewsy Scoop is sponsored by Warby Parker.

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I don't know what these people think but I so this guy got arrested. He was saying he was with the 49ers, okay. And he was, I mean this guy was working as hard as any, you know, Nigerian or Indian guy or whatever in the call centers because he was had so many girls. One girl was a stripper from San Diego and he's, she's given everybody all the videos. He was very big on sending like the FaceTime type videos and he was always like he was driving and he's like listen, you know, like I, you know, in these months, on the off season, this is what I do. And then he would also go and I'm from Switzerland, you know, what just kind of hot. And then he's like, but my family's really wealthy and we own all, we own three Gucci stores. Oh, here we go. We have the one in Miami, the one in Dallas and the one in Manhattan on saxophone Avenue.

No, he said that. It's on video. He goes on saxophone Avenue. So people are doing parodies of these. He also had a helmet that he would wear and he kept it into the back seat of his car. A San Francisco, I mean, I guess you could just buy this as anything and put it in your sports room. So he had one of those helmets and he would like show video of him like running around like on the beach in the helmet. And then what do you do is you'd say, now listen, we're going to get your money right. So you don't have to be a stripper anymore once you get with me. But in the meantime, like again, let me do this investment. I'm so good at money management. I have so much money. And then he had an accomplice who was like this 18 year old. I think the guy was from Japan or something. This 18 year old kid posed as the financial manager, which I'm like, that seems a little weird. An 18 year old Asian kid is the financial manager. That's like 40 year old guy. Also, don't forget when he started on the 49ers.

Yes. The financial manager would have been 12. So that didn't that didn't make sense. And I was like, there's like 25 women like they had to have a rest and $1 million and millions of dollars. And but normally in these cases, now they've gotten now, you know, I'm looking forward to the Netflix stock, of course. But in the past, when there's been all these women that found out they were all dating the same guy who was a dirty John, it was not only cheating, but making them believe they're going to live a fairytale and then also stealing their money. Oftentimes they couldn't get authority to do anything about it because they're like, well, nobody was murdered and you get your money. A lot of them. Yeah. But with this one, they thank God the FBI did get involved. And it was a good scam. Do you know why? I think just they had enough evidence and now women somehow figured it out. And then Wednesday like found all these other people. I mean, there's so much to it. And I was like, in this one time, he was driving, they showed this video of him that he sent to the girl.

And he's just talking about like what he does in the off season and what kind of training they do. And this and that. And I was like, oh my God, fake or not, I don't want to be a wag. You're so fucking boring. I don't want to hear about your training sets or what you're like, he was so boring. And but it's like a variety of women. It's like the hot stripper girl that thinks this is what I'm trying to back up to middle aged women. Like he's really like you're going to like you're going to be on wax. Like you are you're the one that this 49er one. How many of these need to happen before we catch on? How many times? How many whether it's dirty John or Skamanda or you know, I know buff my friends friend. It's happened to this woman. Same exact thing. She gave a guy $150,000 off of Facebook and lost her entire life savings. And it was just like, what if you have to give someone money?

How have we learned? What are we doing? I think it's just the idea of what I've said this before in these love bombings. You're the woman and you haven't really had great luck with men. And then here comes this cute guy and he's young and he's successful and he's calling you every day giving all this attention. And he's like girl it's you and me. We're going to be at the Super Bowl this year. You're so smart. You're so sexy and you're like and these women as a woman, we are like finally somebody gets me. I am this great. And you liking this, me this much must be your my soul mate because clearly we are meant to be together because you are convincing me that we're meant to be together. But he had like 25 other women on the look. He's always always wearing something around his head and that helmet because look at the covering the forehead.

Yeah, not cute. I need the bottom of the head is okay. The top of the head forget it. Honestly, I'm considering investing in a 49ers helmet. My forehead is I make now he they are not allowed to leave the stadium with the helmet. Yeah. Oh, he's limited. But see, I would see I wouldn't know that. And you have to look at the roster. Oh, and he was like they showed him like signing contracts. He'd send videos to the girls signing the contracts. Then you'd be like, Oh, I don't know if I should get a Lamborghini. I can't worry and babe, I need you to like come here and get in the front seat and see which car you like better. But first, we got to get your money right. And I want to talk about this incredible investment. And on sax with Avenue and my financial advisor is going to call you. And then they would send in whatever $20,000.

I mean, I get being gullible and we all like fall for shit. But the hottest woman on the planet could come by and then be like, I need $50,000 for an investment and be like, well fuck. This isn't real because I'm saying like if it were to me, it was tapping you. You know what I mean? I will give a warning to everyone out there though. Don't believe AI because AI. A few of these women asked AI if he was legit and AI saw his own website where he said he was legit. First of all, I mean the name Dejon love. Sounds like that. That's absolutely his real name. So real. Dejon love. It does sound like he's an NFL player though to me. It could be. And it changed his name to Dejon love. It's just like was he on the 49ers and they're like, yes, I found a source. And because somewhere else he said that he was on the 49ers. Yeah, he made a website where he says he's on the 49ers. Now that's right. They pick it up from everything. They gather up everything.

They take up everything, mix it up and then it squirts out. Yeah. But anything on the internet. So you have to always double check with like any official source. Like go on to the NFL. Yeah. And the roster is look at every past roster. You can't just, you know, trust AI. But he was signing contracts. Since we're talking about kind of some scams, I came across this last night. And I have been saying this forever, okay. Have you ever been walking through a mall or an outdoor shopping? And some goes like, hello, you beautiful skin sample. Yes. And some people go in there because there's a sample. And then they will come in here. Let me try this eye cream on you. And then it becomes almost like a time share thing. First they show you everything. They're like, it's $3,000. And then you're like, well, then I'm out of here. And then they just get you down to anything. And I, it happened to me in Vegas. And it happened to my sister once. And we both ended up different times buying an eye cream or something

for like $200. That then you get at home and it doesn't work. Because they'd like put this thing on your eye and then they'd hold a fan. And it would like dry up and you're like, oh my god. My eye does look less puffy. And then you look in like an hour and it's just crushed. You're like, what is this? So I notice it all over. And they, they'll take a store front for about two or three months until the entire town knows that it's bullshit. And then they leave. So CVSLA did like a big investigation. And it's so sad, but it's called B&CO. It's in the Westfield Mall in Tampanga. It has a very pretty store front. And it's exactly one of these scams. And this is the sad part of the story. There was a, there was a job. Love work there. No. He was a lot of work. First we're going to get your money right. Then we're going to get your skin right. Get those bags under. If you're going to be a wag, you can't have bags.

Come to B&CO and to pick a meatmine girl, Sheila. She's going to set you up right. They could all be intertwined. Okay. So there is this guy and he's mentally disabled. But he lives in an adult group home. And he can, you know, go out in the day. And he would go to the mall and make friends with everybody at the mall. And he got in a car accident and he got a chunk of money. That's not what caused his disability. But he got, I mean, he got sacked into B&CO. He was walking by and he was driving him. He was walking by and in the mall. And some girls like, hello, and gave him the high creep.

It gets worse. He was a attorney and the attorney got him like $100,000. And before he went B&CO he had $80,000 in his account. In fact, God, that's... That đUE! That gets worse from the car accident. That got worse from the car accident. I don't know what I need to... Ahh, okay. Okay. Yea, okay. So he got in a car accident. So the attorney is being interviewed. So, he's like, where did all your money go, dude. So he was like, but look at my skin. Be women there and he's like a 35 to 65 doll 20 piles. He's like a 35-year-old guy, okay? And he's like, I went through his card, and it was all this stuff, like the red mask, all these things. But then the woman took him in the back and had him buy more and more and more. And then he also was just giving the woman like $10,000 for her in $5,000 there in $4,000. And next thing he knows, he's down to $450 from $80,000. Oh my God. So then, she probably has a sick stick like $10,000.

No, that's the saddest part of it. That's 50 football helmets. Just watch 50 what NFL helmets. Football helmets. Okay, that's the saddest part, is I don't think this girl was ever even giving a shoulder rub. I think he only got those little packets of free things. And it was just like, we got a person who's not all there and was able to, that was his friend. And he would go and tear. Like so then Shannon and that guy. They went and investigated and found all the companies that the skin scammed where they do the popups for a couple months and then they leave. And I, or a gold, that was the one that got me. Lioness, to a pell, something rough for skincare and Vine Vera. And they're all part of this mausole group and it's all a big scam.

And the skin stuff is probably, you know, some cheap lotion that you just unpack. It's another gold thing. The nivia, I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, putting a gold thing. Putting, putting, putting, put eye cream on and then do a fan to your face. And you're like, oh, you're right. It does, doesn't it feel tighter? Yeah, cause you just put an air thing under your foot. You know, I thought, first of all, the rent into Penga is, so since that is like one of the most baller malls in all of Southern California. Well, that guy paid for it. You paid for the rent. Honestly, thank you to the disabled man. They come at you in the Glendale, Galleria. They'll also, from the store, it's one thing, you're already like, edit it. But when they're in the kiosk, they will follow you. And it's like, I don't want any. Right. They're like hunting you down the thing. I feel like I fell for one of those one time. But it was like, this is straight from Israel. Yeah.

This is from C-Sol. Israel. It's always, it's so good. It's so good. It's from the Red Dead Sea. What a Dead Sea. The Dead End. All right. This is good Israel product. The Dead Sea to FLC. Yeah, and you know, it's just, what's that? Glisser and soap. That's probably all it was. Now, I think I bought some where it was like sea salt and whatever. But like, you're, I don't even know. And then I never use it anyway. And then yeah, and it's literally like, you're like, oh my god, $1800. No, and you're like, no, no, no, then you could just get this jar for $650. Yes. No, absolutely not. Okay, wait, hold on. Let me talk to my person. Because I think that you, you're going to love it so much and then you're going to come out. Hold on. Okay, we're going to give you the smaller size. And this one, $375. If you have cash, $250. Of course. And then you're at a certain point, it's just like why people, and my criminal defense attorney, sister, Shanice says, all the time, it's why people confess to a crime they didn't do. Oh, and because you're in that tight room and they won't let you leave. And you're finally, you're like, I guess I did kill my husband.

Because I just, I just need to go home and get some sleep. I just need to go home. It's also why people join Scientology because the room gets smaller and smaller and smaller until they're just like, okay, I'm in. Just give me the signature thing. I need to get out of this. Where I paid $10,000 down in my car. What a perfect segue. Scientology, former Scientologist, Leah Remini, star of King of Queens and formerly of the talk talk show until Julie Chen Moonves kicked her out. My opinion about that. Of course. Because Leah told me so. Anyway. Um, she is on the real house. She was in Beverly Hills and everybody is thrilled about it. What is your opinion? We are dying. Okay. We are huge stands of Leah Remini. And if we, we even, Well, we have a, we have a long history with her and honestly starting from when I'm a kid where she was a child actor

before saved by the bell. She was on cheers weirdly. I was just like a guest star. Yeah. Maybe she did like a, like a three episode. Our, my favorite was the model show. Oh my God. And I fucking love that show. Are you the model? Are you sure? The, like the naturally big lips. So you're like, yeah, she could be a model. And it was like models living in New York and a house. Loved it. So people when I was little, like a kid would be like, oh, you look like her. So they told me that all the time. So I run into her at a new kids on the block concert. I'm not even fucking kidding. What years is it? It's, I'm, I have no idea. But it's like in like, it's not even in our life course because I'm kind of fucking afford it. Or my parents couldn't. But it was in like, Anaheim or something. So I had to have for now. And she's older than me, but you know, however those shows panned out, not that much older. But so I run into her. And she was like, so cool. And she's just a friend and I'm like the worst. And then I'm with my friend Tasha. And she goes, everybody says you guys look alike. And I'm like, shut the fuck up. I'm trying to look like the biggest dog.

And she was like, thank you so much. I mean, can you imagine when like, there's like a troll standing there? And it's like, everyone says you guys look like. And she's like, wow, that's neat. Because you're, but anyway, she was so nice. And we've loved her, loved her, loved her. And she's funny. Obviously, hilarious. We love King of Queens. We love Kevin James. Then she was on Dancing with the Stars. She went on Wendy Williams. And it was like right around when we started our podcast. And she was telling Wendy Williams a story of like, you know, Glenn Goodman, God rest his fucking soul. Being like, what's the next one? Did I say Glenn? Yeah. What's the next one? Glenn, Glenn. So Glenn. I don't even know his name, but I did love him. Yeah. So he's like older original judge. Yeah. And he was great. And he died. And he was really awesome though. I said he was going to school. And I don't care. So he's like, well, let me give you his British or whatever. Let me give you some notes on the Fox trot. Or let me, next time darling, when you do the Fox trot, and she's like, she's tells Wendy Williams is, she's like, I don't need your notes, babe. Like, I'm never fucking doing the dance again.

And lastly, so we, Julie and I literally for our podcast, have a shirt that says, I don't need your notes, babe. And it's all because of her. Like, we every, every inch of her, we are like up in her vagina. We love her, everything about her. The fact that she's going on Beverly Hills, like, I couldn't, I can't believe it. I can't, I'm so excited. It's unbelievable. I think it's a great choice. And it was one that as someone who has been, you know, always working to help Bravo and cast. I never thought of it. It was like, of course, it's right in front of us. She's available, she's divorced, she's the right age. She lives in LA, she's a former actor. She is a straight shooter. She left a cult. Yes. Yes. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? She has the accent, but she's lived in LA since she was young. We have it all. And, and can I ask you, is she a friend or, or do you know, if she's a friend or a full cast mate? I believe that she's a full cast, I heard that she's a full cast mate.

And Jennifer Tilly, we love, but we don't really ever see her life or her poker boyfriend or anything. And Kathy Hilton, who we love, but we don't really see Rick or any of her kids, they are remaining friends. And I think they both love it that way. And I think that is the perfect. Like if I had Jennifer Tilly's money and if I had Kathy Hilton's life, I'd be like, yeah, I'll be a friend. I'll go to the things I want to go to and I don't need to get really messy in the storyline unless I have to and have a great blast. And but the funny thing is about those Jennifer Tilly, then, is available to go to. And I wear on strip street as the star of Chuckie. It would be so much sense that she would go. Anybody who listen, I know a lot of, we know the producers of evolution, but anybody has a line into Jennifer Tilly, please, we want her to come to a cameo as what's her name? Tiffany. Tiffany from Brighton Factory. There's a Chuckie Tiffany whole thing to hold to do in the show. And it's all going to come down to Heather if no one else helps.

Yeah. And we just want to honor Jennifer Tilly. And what I wanted to say though is that the funny, I, in my opinion, Kathy and Jennifer Tilly are the funniest ones on the show. And every show needs to be a comedy. Right. And she's funny too, which I love. And now she'll be a full time. She's like a natural funny that's not trying to be funny, which I love. And she will show her life. Right. Well, she did get a little daughter. And she was with her husband. He was a guest star or something on one of the shows she was working on. That's how they met. They had their daughter who I believe now is at least 22. I think she's out of college now or close to it. Drake, when I hit you up. Yeah. Well, Peter and her ex husband used to play golf all the time. And during COVID, he had a restaurant that he always had. And we were allowed to eat there. It was a speakeasy. And we were able to go in the back. Oh, cold. We went on Ventura. Yeah, his little restaurant.

Yeah, we loved it. We went there. So hard too. Go there and eat. And he was like, yeah, come by. Like all you do is just like go around the back and we're like serving people. Do they still have it? I don't know. I can then feel that. And then when they got divorced, you know, you're always kind of surprised because they made it that long, but it seemed like it seems like they're fine. It'll be interesting to see if she's dating anyone, if she talks about it, she just got a snatched facelift. Yes. You're seeing the new facelift. No. It's a little shocking. It looks amazing, but it really does look like it was like invasion of body snatchers and she gave birth to herself. And out came her like 43 years ago. Like it's very, a swollen right now. So I think by the time I think it'll look really, really good. It always looks great when it's swollen. Yeah. And Kenya got one too. Have you seen Kenya's? Oh, yeah. Kenya from Real House of Atlanta. Yeah.

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I think this show is a clip show. It's so many flashbacks. I'm enjoying it. I'm a little bored. I did fall asleep. I didn't finish it. However, it's kind of interesting because Lisa Barlow was like, oh my god, I'm not really bringing it. I'm just having such a good time laughing with Teresa. And you realize, yeah, you have to fight. You have to expose that your castmates, husband is cheating. You have to bring out tax returns of your castmate. You have to make sure that it's so much stress and they can just go have fun, which is really fun to see. It's nice. But when Kyle was all over Nini and he's like, oh, we used to have dinners together and we would talk on the phone. Kyle's hugging her, she was in Iraq for 12 years. And I'm like, I want to know who was the last text. Because clearly you guys didn't keep in touch.

And you haven't said, hey, how you doing? And she hasn't said, oh gosh, girls, sorry to hear about Mauricio. You could have called each other. If you were talking that much 10 years ago, like what happened? Who dropped the ball? But it would be you. But neither then wanted to fight about it. But nobody, you know, no. I feel the double edge sort of that and also Real Housewives of OC, which is on the same night, right? Are they on the same night? They're on the same night as Atlanta. We're watching them two and three times because we'll end up walking away or sleeping. Yes. You know what I mean? You just end up like, wait, did we ever finish that? Which is not what you want. You want to be to the very end. And then, but I am noticing after my third time watching that, I do feel like they're setting up Lisa a lot and I feel like Salt Lake City is the most contentious cast and they are so brutal and they will rip your face apart one, which that's the last thing anybody wants

to hear is like how ugly you are right in front of you. Then they'll pull out someone who's also has the most work on the planet. Wait, wait, who said that Lisa Barlow? Oh, Angie. Angie did it. Angie did it. They bring up a facelift and her botched facelifts and then they'll bring out, I did not get a facelift. I got threads. I got threads and I like the way it looks. You know, she's, you know, just, and then, and then they bring out all of her tax returns and then you, the business has, and then never, and then her marriage, even though all their marriages. And literally, I feel like she's on the van riding over and she's having like literal anxiety attack and heart palpitations and she's like, sorry, I can't have fun. She has so much anxiety about seeing other gay. She has so what you were there, other, you're literally fucking there standing with the enemy, standing with what's her butt and what's her butt? Braun win another day. Yeah. No, no. Run with it. Whitney. Yeah. And I know Heather gave what, I mean, and Lisa Barlow at the end when we have to do the thing

where they say, okay, everybody now dance and they're all like, oh, we're so happy that we can dance now. That means we're almost done. And then I'm like, what are we doing? And then we just like had a dance and then Lisa Barlow's like, how's it going? We have to keep dancing for at least three more minutes. I'm like, okay. And I was like, that's the party. They're like, thank God. Oh, and have two other people that are still wondering why I am there at the party? I couldn't remember who invited me. It was Luan, who invited me. It was Luan. It was Luan, who invited me. I remember every single thing of it. So that's why. It was a completely normal. Sorry, and I make that I meet people and I'm interesting and I'm at a level that I'm actually friends with these people and you're not. Heather is friends with. Good. You were going to go to an after party with Luan, but you're never the after party girl. And that's important for us because Julie and I will never shut it down and we'll find ourselves in some weird crack house three days later like, wow, thanks, Luan. Heather goes to, she gets invited to Kathy Hilton's.

The only weird thing about you being there was simply the dancing trees, which you ended up the most iconic period. We haven't even seen the season, but we know Luan coming in on the zipline with the dancing trees. That's the thing. There are moments on this show that you have to say. First of all, I have to say, she comes down in the zipline and there aren't a lot of people there because it's a filmed party. Right. And you can't play music because we have to have mics saying that we hate each other. Awful. It's literally all women and a couple straight gays. Okay. And then Marisa, Marisa was literally the only straight man at the party and not wearing white. What did he wear? He wore a khaki blazer and that really bugged me. Yeah. Well, you know, and the girls are all like flirty with him whatever. It was fine. And what was hard is you're out in a big backyard and we have to stand behind the pool to like see her do her thing.

So it's kind of wasn't the great, great sound. And you know, people like, woo. And so afterwards she was like, well, that was a big bounce. Was a great. And I was like, it was so fun. And I'm like, Luan, I like. I like. And I was like, well, we was like, listen, you're not in a small cabaret theater. You're not even in a theater. You're in an outdoor thing. It's wise. It's harder to do that regardless of how good of a singer or community you are. And if you're in like a type place and everybody, everyone also surprised performances as the performer, not great. No. Like when I've had somebody be like, hey, everybody, stop talking. Stop talking. Hey, why are you talking? Stop talking. Now for the comedy act. Everyone's like, what? And then I come out of there and I'm like, and they're like scared and they don't want to laugh because someone just yelled at them. No, no. I remember I did this. I just started to get back into comedy. And this person said, hey, you want to do this Armenian baby shower.

And it was this big fancy place, kind of near Burbank. And it was this big Armenian baby shower. And I hadn't done stand up in a while, but I'm like, this is a good, this is a plan for me to write something. And I'm a mother. And now here comes the time for the act. And they paid me whatever, like $300 or something. And they're like anything you want me to say. And I said, just so they know, like they got to listen and not like be chatting and stuff. So then the Armenian guys like, listen to me. And I was like, she's free. And I was like, don't say anything. I'm like, walking out. I'm like, so where's my pregnant girl's at? Like it was just like the worst. Oh, God. This is a nightmare. But anyway, she, so yes, it was all fun. But I do feel, I also feel that Vicki, this season on Ultimate Girls Trip and Real House with OC, which we're watching at the same time. Now that she's back, she is on her last year working at the DMV in Kanoga Park. That's the amount of effort that she is putting into this.

Like she was like, yeah, thanks for having me back. What? I'm not going to do anything else. What? What happened to work? You think I'm going to lose another deal? I'm going to ensure it's up. Can we have quiet time? And the cameras are not on. I'm not giving shit. I clocked in and I'm clocking out. She literally is treating this like a government worker. Yeah, she has a lot of deals to close. She says she has hours of deals to close. But I do want to say, regardless, we could watch Portia read from the phone book. Like she is making the show. She is a joy. A joy. No, no. I don't want to. Oh, now that she's a lesbian, I worked with. Wow, what an amazing woman. Okay, so I worked with Portia. I worked with Portia. We did like the dish. Remember that show, the dish? Yes. It was like a hot topic dish show. They did it out of Atlanta. She did it for a long time. Oh, yeah. Just separate places. Yeah. No dishes. No dishes.

Yes. Yes. And so like she was so sweet at the white party. Got to see her there. And when I was talking to Patrick McDonald, the former producer, we did not get to all the scoops. So he's going to come back. But he worked on like Portia's family and he worked on a lot of the spin-offs, candies, chaos, whatever that family wanted. And so, and remember she and I realized when he was telling that, I'm like, now that she is in love with a woman and living her life and she's just like, yeah, my lesbian, she's not being like, well, it's about the person. She's just like, no, like I love my life. I'm so happy. And I was like, well, maybe that's that maybe that was the anger with Kenyan and the family and you know, because she wasn't living her true self. Maybe or maybe this is going to come and go. I mean, I never believe anyone who's gay. She is. But I don't believe there's one actual lesbian on the planet. However, that's full blown.

Yeah, except maybe Portia's girlfriend's way. But I think that I do want to say, I think that I don't remember being, she's striking me as an angry person, but I think that when her Portia family spin off was like one of the most like volatile fights ever, ever, ever aired on Bravo. I think that at that time that she was postpartum and he cheated on her, she found out like within weeks after giving birth that Dennis had cheated on her. And he was the hot dog man. Yeah, hot dog guy. He's still always on and we like totally love Dennis. And I think she does too. And I just don't think she'll ever trust a man again. And I think that she just, when she had that baby and she was living with her mom, those, that is like that shit should have won a damn Emmy one. I tell you like she was taking care of this newborn and she was so heartbroken and I was like, God, man, what women go through? You could have the perfect life and always ask Heather too and Heather of course had no

problems. And I'm like, Heather, tell me about breastfeeding. Tell me. I'm like, I'm gonna take you to lose your weight and I always want to know about Heather of her babies. And she's like, you just have to tell yourself, you know, you're just going to be, you know, heavy for a year and it's like, who could even just that's depressing? You know, I don't think it will know that, mothers, that I found this out. I'm like, why are not more people saying this? Your hips spread naturally, whether you're going to stutter or not, they spread, they get wider for you to get birth. So they are going to take a year to get back into your, even no matter what, in order to fit into your genes, no matter how fly your stomach is, you still might not fit in your genes because of your hips. So just give yourself a year and chill out. Then did you get all the way back and then have another baby then? Did you care? We're like, oh, fuck, I have to have another baby now. Oh my gosh, let's get it. Oh, I loved it. So you didn't think about that at all. But I was very lucky because I was like tall and both of the kids came out only six

pounds, nine ounces and both of them came out early two weeks. And they're huge now. Cute. One would have thought they would be five eight. No, and my other friend's daughter, she is not even five feet and her kid was like over eight pounds. So like, I just, a lot of people did were like, I don't even think they were like, was one girl was like, really? There's a boy in there. Are you sure it's okay? And I was like, yeah, Heather, were you even eating? I was eating. I was eating. She wasn't eating. I was, I wasn't that. I should eat in my house. Can I just say one thing about the lesbian thing? Yes, sure. What is it? I just want to say that I appreciate it. This is the first time in any show that I've ever seen where a woman is just being funny about it. Yes. Like, it's not a big deal. It's not like your whole life. Even if who knows if it's even your whole future, but she said in two weeks, I took a right turn to fucking gay and she's laughing and it's not like, they're joking about not having long nails anymore.

Yeah, it's like, and if it's your identity or not, and I joke too, like it doesn't even matter. It's like, that's who she's with. She's acclaiming it. She's having a great time. They're laughing and just having fun. And for me, I find it to be very soothing and comforting and very like inspirational and just just in life, just to be like, this is just fun. And she's just like giddy happy, which she's, it's really fun to see. But also, I think it's really interesting that they go to this party and they go, what's your alter ego or whatever. And Kyle just goes as like, you know, what you'd wear an aspect. It's Denver. Yeah. It's like, you're alter ego. Are you hinting back at Morgan Wade? And also to never have a moment because she's never admitted really that she had a gay relationship with Morgan Wade, Kyle didn't. So we don't even get, maybe we will in the show, but there should be a conversation between she and Portia. And look at the difference between those two people. It's like when you don't have a secret and a heaviness and this oppression of what is

anyone going to think, Portia is a really, really good role model for anyone, honestly, or just, but particularly for gay people who are afraid, yeah, nothing to be afraid of. There's nothing to be afraid of. Just be alive. What about a conversation with Ashley with her stupid run on mustache? Yeah. Who her alter ego was apparently a poor business, horn, a porn with a drawn on mustache. I mean, Ashley's bisexual. They could have had, even when they're having conversation about Ashley trying to get it with Mauricio, they could have been even off camera. I mean, what I think is interesting is that we know that, Fadra, we know that Portia, we know that candy, I mean, these are just facts. These Fadra and Candy are very, very sexual. Candy has the candy shop or whatever the hell and she sells the sex toys. And it's always like they're always implying and ridiculous and the strippers. They've definitely all done three sums worth two girls and one guy.

So they've all like dabbled in it anyway. So it's so remember when a dong dingo or whatever, the stripper, that's ridiculous. No, his name wasn't ridiculous. Okay, and there's ridiculous and there's another one is that that's the guy where they all hooked up and drew Sadorah to. They all hooked up in that room and Julie and I watched it. We had a magnifying glass. I'm like, I see two legs in the air. Pause. Let me get phones like and zoom in. I thought his name was like dingos. Yeah, there was there was two of them. Okay, but he was in the kitchen. There's been a lot of sex stuff. And then yeah, and remember when like it was Fadra who supposedly told Portia that Candace, Candy and Todd, no, Candy and Todd, we're going to try to get away and she's like, who's that? Yeah. Yeah, that was all kind of lurking. But you know, now it's like, let's just be on the show and make our money and have fun. Yeah, let's just hook up with checks because that's what we do. I mean, I'd rather do this than special forces.

I wonder if they got paid 175 at least. It was only it was 11 days of filming. What about the ones who just showed up as friends? They didn't get nothing. Okay. You asked them. I'm pretty sure they, you know, I'm pretty sure if you wanted to come to the parties, you could and you, I don't think you they got paid. I can find out for sure. Okay. I'm invited to like that city's party. It's like, do you want to do it or not? And of course they're like going to say yes, but they're just party guests. The girls that had to travel for 11 days straight and bring all their outfits themselves, I'm assuming they got at least a couple hundred thousand maybe more. They had to have gotten more than 175. All those special forces is way hard. I think I bet they each got 250. It's pretty good. Yeah. That's good. Not bad at all. How are we feeling about season 20 real house? I suppose see. I mean, Vicki is still working at the DMT in Orange County.

I'm like, everyone else, I enjoy Vicki being like that. No. Me too. You know what? She is totally transparent. That's a thing about Vicki. She's never fake to she's like someone. She's never fake that she's interested. She'll literally go and act like she's asleep. So I think she's kind of being awful, but at the same time she's the only way. And one that's bringing anything. But I do think she's kind of doing it as like this is my last to raw and you don't have to invite me back. I'm just glad that I got to come back one more time and I'm going to make all my money on my computer while I'm driving to San Diego. Why this girl's a San Diego? That she is like, because I'm going to keep this going and like I'm what happened. There's going to never going to be another. And if she stays on OC for five more years or forever, there will never be another season where she will not always be side hustling code. Like I think she was absolutely traumatized when she got taken off the show.

She's done a million interviews where she said, I'm not done. And she's never going to stop trying to like side hustle. And I think on she's not good for girls trips because I don't think she likes new people. And I like that about her. I'm totally unfriendly in new people. She's thrown in and she's, but on this show, she's only unfriendly to like two or three new ones. But then the rest, or I guess did she ever film with Emily and Gina or was she never on with them? Maybe she's on with them one season. Well, the thing too is that we're watching. We're going back to like season 12 and then we are and then watching this too. So we're seeing like, I mean, nothing beats Tamra and Vicki together. The two of them are absolute magic together. Like regardless of anything on the planet. Well, we're not really seeing any of that. But we don't see it. Now we don't see it. I just think it's full. But all supportive it is just like, I think they're all, none of them really care to be there, but they don't want to not be there. But they're not like enjoying the process. And then they're all have a chip on their shoulder where they're like, I think Tamra's

like, I've been the potster and everyone on all the fans hate me. So guess what? I'm going to sit in my cowboy hat and I'm not going to eat the hot dog because I want to look lean in me. And I'm going to give you nothing. And then Vicki is like, well, thanks for asking me back, but I'm not going to lose a deal. So she's going to work. And then Shannon's like, well, you know, I gave everything. I lifted up my shirt and showed you my roles. I've showed you my space. She did do that. I've showed you my divorce and everything. And I also feel like I'm not getting everything I deserve. So they all three of them, the three of Mingo should be the three chips on our shoulders. And they all just have a chip on their shoulder. And then have there's just like, you know, driving in from LA and doesn't care, making her angry. I don't know. There's just nothing. Yeah, there's really, there's not a lot to like individually. Everybody's fine. Like, and Vicki is always so nice when you see her out in public. She's always been so nice to me and so cool and I've been to her house and everything.

And she was fun to talk to at the White Party. So it's like, I don't feel like anybody is a bad person in there. It's just not. They're literally trying to make a drama about this woman trying to help her, a woman. Then like, yeah, like, oh, you want to help Jen? Yeah, like, you might assistant why I flip a house and the answer is yes, call us. We do want the job. Like we have no real estate, but yeah, do I want 20 grand to help you and I'll hold your purse? Yes. And then also, what would you do with the also with this new girl? Carmella, she had her boyfriend, who's not the father of her four kids cheated on her four years ago. So that must have been what she tried to sell herself to get on the show. Well, how's your relationship? Oh, it's really good. We've been together for years. All right. Well, thanks for coming in. Wait a minute. Four years ago, she did on me. What if we brought that up every time? Yeah. And I may consider crossed for me and I bring it up again. And then I also have it sit down with my children and say, how insecure does that make you feel

that my boyfriend, not your dad cheated on me four years ago? And then I also tell the girls that my boyfriend cheated on me four years ago. And then they talked about how awkward it is that he's still my boyfriend. Like, I just feel like that's so weird. Yeah. Yes. And I also, I have a feeling and now Gina and Emily will hate me and that's fine. I have a feeling since Tamer has denied or decided to not be the do the heavy lifting. Right. That Gina and Emily have conspired behind the scenes to get in a fight. Like because you know how they did that should all summer were there and like, bunny outfits and they're hot dog costumes. Remember that? TikTok should be these stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But now all of a sudden they're on the show and they're like, well, why'd you bring that up? And then they're like, sort of low stakes fights. And I'm like, well, you got a hand into a movie and they're trying to make storylines because Tamer is clearly not going to do it. Well, and then and then Heather gets mad that they share a room because they know that they're

planning the next thing. Yes. And it's like, oh, go ahead, let them have the room. None of you want to do the work. It's not interesting. It's not interesting. It's not interesting. And then Emily's like, well, God, I mean, Trayn and I had sex before we went and to dinner and then we had sex after and look, keep calling me. Look, I'm like, why don't you take Luke's photo away? You're a little son. If he's that much of a pain in the ass, it's like ruining your one and and and Shane's like, well, I finally passed the bar, but now I can't go to the office because you're busy doing TikToks with Gina and working all the time. And I have to deal with Luke. Well, Luke needs to call you. We're open to tell you that he didn't have like this poor Luke when he sees this shit. He's going to be like, why don't you just take my phone away if I was calling you too much? I'm not that bad for that kid. Yeah. And I don't believe that they ever had sex twice in a day. Twice in a day. Twice in a day. Twice in a day. I mean, and then Vicki's like, is that this one or our old one? Okay.

I get, I'm not sure what you're going to do. So one of the ones we're watching, Vicki's like, I just need it so much. She's so horny. She wants it all the time. And we're like, whoa. Four times a day. And he never denies me. And she tells them to take his pants off. And I can't remember which one that time. That was this season. That's this one. And then Vicki says, just take time. Just take time. I'm just trying to tell him. I decided to do this mouthy. I just tell him, you know what? I'm going to have sex with a orange cake to pants off. And you're like, I'm going to be with her mouth. And then you're like, whoa, look at that. And I think that, oh, by the way, I want to say back on ultimate girls trip. I'm going to say something. It's just for opinion. I'm going to say, if I'm wrong, if you've had dinner with this couple and you know that there are real couples say, Heather, I've had dinner with Nini and that actor that showed up at the drag race. I'm sorry. The dapper guy.

I said it's been on and off for four years. Which is exactly when he dragged. And yeah, on and off for four years. And he shows up and he looks good, but he doesn't stay. Now, listen, if I was a bad bitch and I'm coming back, and I'm going to be on the show, I'm not only going to look gorgeous, which she did. Yes. And be funny and stylish. And a guy or if I didn't have a guy and I was a widow or divorced or whatever, and it was TV, I'd be like, my man's coming by. Oh, yeah. And you're holding a modeling casting behind the scenes. And I would get a guy. You know who I'd get? I would get. And a friend of students, boy, friend. That's who I would get to be my new boyfriend. And I'd say, we have a fun. It's on and off. Let's just say I had a little trouble walking this morning. What? I guess about 15.

Like my high was broke last night. I didn't want to get a nice back. I didn't want to sit on it. Speaking of which, OK, so Jennifer Anderson has been dating this. Can I just say no, please don't edit this out, Drake. We love Vicky. We love Vicky. Yeah, we have our life insurance through her. And even though Heather did that, and I love to him doing impressions of people I love. We love Vicky. Heather loves Vicky. We love Vicky. We love Vicky's in the show. And I'm telling you she's the only thing that we're talking about. Even if she's inappropriate, and if she's insensitive to Kyle, it still is something that makes you sit up and watch. Yeah, so she's bringing it, bringing it on both shows. Yeah. OK, on to like our new boyfriend, who also by the way, Bethany did go on a date with too. OK, so Jim Curtis is a hypnotist.

And a life coach. And he's dating Jennifer Aniston. And he is also doing podcasts, and this podcast just came out. And it's the Jamie Kurn Lima show. I think this girl was like, it was sold to makeup or something and became a billionaire. And then she has a podcast. And her podcast videos went viral when she interviewed Megan Markle like last year. And there was about a thousand clips that went out. I don't know how long this episode was telling. It literally says that. And it was when Megan Markle was like, and I tell my children, Lilabette and Archie, you can't reach the light switch yet. And then the Jamie Kurn, what's her name? Is it Jamie Kurn? Is it Jamie Kurn?

We go, yes, yes, yes, yes. You can't reach it, I love that. Yeah. So she, she went, just a door. Okay, so anyway, Jim Curtis comes on the show. I assume this just came out. So he's wearing a professor sweater in our hottest month, the world. And he's good looking. He's age appropriate. He's salt and pepper hair. All he has all of his hair. It's just salt and pepper. And he's talking about his relationship with Jennifer Aniston. And he's like, well, when Jen and I have an argument, we meditate on it and we are meditating on it. And I immediately go thinking, did you meditate on having to wear that fucking sweater in a hundred and a hundred degrees? I just was like, I looked at the comments. A lot of people said, if you are having

that kind of those kind of arguments at a year and a half and going to therapy, they go to therapy, they meditate on the out, or whatever, but still good for them. They seem to be happy. And you know, she's like, oh, I love Jim. I said, hey, do Jamie Kurn Limos, Lima's podcast, she's funny, she is smart. She's part of the inner circle. My friends are her family family. Yeah, we're all family. We are work. And he said that he goes, oh, her friends are her family, and they're just a great group of people. And you know, I'm just imagining them, like Courtney Cox and everybody on their huge $25 million estate and just, you know, who needs wine? Oh, me, my favorite Rita. And then just like talking about, you know, everything that they're gonna do to like help the world. And smoking cigarettes and getting a tan, having a gummy. Yeah. And then someone, and then, chef Milo, look at you. Who doesn't love chef Milo? Also part of the family private chef comes out. Mm-hmm. Oh, do we love chef Milo?

I love it. You know what? It's so special. And so anyway, what do you think? Can you imagine having a fight with your partner or whatever and then what happens? You're in the middle. I can't imagine being in some sort of situation and you go, what the fuck are you? Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're just gonna meditate? I just don't believe it. We're gonna meditate on it. I don't believe it. And then I need you to journal for at least four pages. Here's a big pen. I'm just gonna say what you wanna visualize. And let's talk about where the miscommunication happened. And yeah. It's just, I'm saying. I would want him to imagine that happening. I would want him to advise me to just have sex like if I was an into it. I was in the mood, like not tonight. And then he just does it. And I'm like, okay, be great. Like so easy. Just hypnotize me. He probably does do that. Good. Good for fucking her. Yeah. I mean, I think he's hot.

I know he must be giving a little bit of dork vibes. Just obviously he's group setting. It's giving every call. He's a life coach. He's a hypnotist. I mean, for all she knows, she doesn't know that like, you know, when she was talking to him for the first time, he didn't have a little thing going back. Exactly. Yeah. And then all of a sudden she's like, I think he's probably a great time. I think he's probably good in the sack. I think they probably have a great conversation. I think they're a good couple. Yeah. And she has a lot of pressure like ever since Brad Pitt, she probably is willing to put up with some dorky due to qualities because she doesn't want to come kind of with like a schlep. You know what I mean? She always has to come with like kind of like a hot guy. No, he's a perfect, it's for guy. Yeah, you know, and you don't want Brad Pitt. But I hope that in this group of people that are her fans, that are family,

that there's got to please let me know that she is not such a good person. That every time something happens to Brad Pitt or another kid is at the Social Security Office removing Pitt from their license, from their, from their brand that she isn't like, well, karma's a bitch. I mean, even if that was a great life, it had Brad, even I do that. And I wasn't even married to him. I'm like, yeah. Shouldn't have fucked up or trying to bring it to the show. I will do want to say on this guy that he does make me think of Sandra Bullock's hot ass boyfriend. Unfortunately, I had to find out accidentally had passed away. That hot ass guy she was dating and then I got so depressed and then Sandra Bullock remember that hot ass guy? Yeah, he was like a photographer. He was like a silver fox. It's you need like what you need. And what I need when I'm single and entering them and coming back to my 40th high school reunion. Right. Right. I need like some pepper, maybe a couple of years

talking about that I am and they just, but when you introduce them and has to be like, not entrepreneur, because now people know that's shady. Right. It's got to be a full-com player. A full-com player. A full-com player. A full-com player. With a last name, blah. I have a bell player. Absolutely. On that note, girls, thank God you're back. But you've always been treating your fans with the utmost dignity because you put out so much content and everybody loves your podcast, dumb gay politics podcast, as well as the infamous Patreon that just you just crawl inside their vagina and hear their innermost thoughts and funny, funny shit. So we're spending the rest of 2026 talking a lot of shit about the people we hate. And if you know us, if you're one of our 14 listeners, you know exactly who it is. So our Patreon is where we're going to just go on.

Go on. Let go, let God, and by 2027, the person will no longer be receiving any oxygen from any of us. Mmm. Lovely. And on that note, I also am spending my 2023 at the Cubs San Francisco Club. I will be their October 2nd and 3rd two shows at night. And then the following we can all be at the desert ridge improv in Phoenix, Scottsdale area on the 9th and 10th of October. Again, two shows a night, more intimate room, let's, and I also will be talking shit and doing my own material, which I've always done, but new material and really get into the stuff I don't always talk about. And there does talk shit in the live shows. I save, I have a whole section of nose. Same for the live show, shit that can't be said anywhere else because even with a Patreon people can, of course,

listen or, but you have to buy a ticket to hear the funniest shit talking time ever. So there you go, that's Heather McDonnell.net and my Patreon as well. Thank you guys. This has been so fun.

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