MEDICAL MONDAY: Prepping with the Old & Injured on The Next Generation

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4:21So today, we're talking about the old farts in the injured, so to speak. And to kind of open up the show tonight, I wanted to share a story of something that has been a recent issue right in our own backyard. So we've been raising these chickens for a couple of years now. And we've had ups and downs. We've had some got eaten by hawks. We've had some got basically gobbled up by dogs on accident, thinking they were toys. We've had merits disease blow through. There is no lack of predation by any means, and whether it's natural or otherwise. We do what we can to keep these chickens alive. They produce eggs. They produce three eggs a day, which is enough for me to consume and keep a couple extra on hand, which is perfect.

5:22They're pretty low maintenance for the most part. And it's kind of nice. I mean, we don't have 50 or 60. We got we're up to six down to six hands and one rooster. So a couple of weeks ago, we noticed that one of the hands was starting to show the sides of being egg-bound. And usually you can tell because of the way they carry themselves, they tend to lower their tail. They're just they don't eat as much. They're not drinking. And this really sucked because this happened to be one of my best laying hands. I mean, she laid every day consistently since the day I got her. And I got her as a grown hand. So I knew that there wasn't that much more time that I had with her as far as if I got one or two years out of her with an egg production that was money ahead. I think I paid like five bucks for her or something like that. So I was, you know, I'm not out anything by losing this hand.

6:23But on the other side of it, I kind of am because she was kind of the crazy redhead of the bunch, right? She her name is crazy red. I mean, that's that's just what we call her. Because she's just balzy, you know, she'll come right up to you. She'll she'll try and check out what you're what you got going on. She has no fear. She's not afraid of the dogs, not afraid of people, not afraid when the rooster goes off. She just fearless. And that that dynamic within the rest of the brood, a rest of the flock, I guess, so to speak, was something that was hard to come to grips with. So when I see her up against the tree or, you know, up against a wall or something with her tail down, I was like, okay, here we go. We're going to lose another one. So over the course of the next couple of days, I'm doing what I can to relieve her being egg-bound.

7:24I'm giving her Epsom Salt baths, gave her a little bit of tons. And, you know, there was a couple of nights where I was basically had her in this bathroom sink with warm water and Epsom Salt and just holding her down there, hoping that she might pass this thing or make it work and never happen, never happen. And it looked like she was getting better and then she'd take a turn for the worst. And then it looked like, you know, another day would go by and I'd see her and she'd, you know, be poking her head around and then a little bit later in the night or whatever when I got home from work, I was like, okay, you know, am I going to come home to a dead chicken or when I go, you know, looking for her in the morning, am I going to wake up, you know, and open the door to the chicken coop and have to pull out a dead chicken or whatever. So this went on for a couple of days and pretty high stress. I mean, there was, I, when I would give her those Epsom Salt baths, of course, it would

8:24be at night because it would be, it was easier for me to catch her and it was at the end of the day at work and I was like, okay, well, let's just get you through one more night, right? And I'd pull her out of the bath and her out of the sink, I guess, so to speak and wrap her up in a towel and just sit in the rocking chair for a few minutes. Just let her relax, you know, she, she's obviously struggling and just hope that that helped loosen up whatever was going on inside of her. And she never passed anything. She never passed another egg. But she did come around and she wound up, you know, being going back to her normal old crazy self, maybe not quite as erratic as before, but definitely still there. And she has since stopped laying, which kind of sucks. But you know, there's also this part, this, this dynamic that is, that exists within

9:25the flock because she's there. And it really kind of woke me up to some things that are happening all over. But especially with my family and my wife's family and even some of my friends' families that we're seeing, a lot of our parents go through some serious trauma in their lives, you know, horrible diagnosis, diagnosis or, you know, hospitalizations or, you know, medical issues, striking things in. And that's just the time. That's just the part of this cycle, right, where you get old and then something happens and you can't move as fast or you can't lift as much or you can't stay awake as long on top of aging and all this other stuff. But there's still a vital component. There's a vital piece of the whole, the whole unit.

10:26And it's not like, you know, in most instances where a hand stops laying, that's the time to call it, turn it into soup, right? You don't necessarily keep feeding them. You don't necessarily keep them going because it's a waste of food, so to speak, or it's a waste of time, so to speak, or it's another risk that they could get sick or pass something onto the other hands. But the other side of that is they still have a function within the unit. And when it comes to the elderly or the injured, those people still have a function within your unit, within your family. What does any of this have to do with prepping? Well, a lot of times when we get called out on prepper magazines and websites or whatever it might be, they always seem to highlight those fit, capable, muscular folks that are kind of overshadowed and grit and determination to be able to get to that next stage, right? Whatever that mission is. But rarely do those cover models ever highlight the importance of the elders in the group.

11:33So today we're kind of digging into some of the ways to be ready for when key members of the group can no longer do that heavy lifting. And I kind of stole this show from Michael Klein. This is one of the first episodes that I heard of his way back in the day, maybe five years ago or something like that, six years ago. Him and his wife did an excellent show on this very thing. So if you're interested in more of this, more of this type of content, please do check out some of those archives with Michael Klein and his wife. Because that's a whole other aspect of it. That was the reality check podcast back in the day. But first, before we get on with the day show, Colin, would you like to share your fun fact of the week? Week. What? Hold on. I got to unmute. What's it? Hold on. Okay. Now we got him. Sorry. I had to unmute it.

12:34Oh, right. Okay. Guess what? What? What? Chicken butt. Studies have found that most people feel their happiness or feel their happiness increase in the later decades of their life from their 60s to their 80s. Really? Yeah. I'm not aware because you think that your happiness would go down as your health would go down. As your health would go down as people as your yeah, yeah. I mean, as you start to experience worse and worse things in your life, but I don't know maybe it's a stress thing. Nothing. I think it's just because they don't care anymore. Yeah. Nothing's just like, ah, what? What's more carefree? Yeah, exactly. They let everything go. You can't. Wow. What's it saying, go, you reach a point where you can't trust a fart? Yeah. Well. Okay. Okay. But we did actually invite my own parents to come on the show tonight to kind of talk about

13:38this kind of stuff. And before we bring them on, I thought we talked just briefly about why this is important in the first place and why these types of things are critical to have within your unit and maintain within your unit. What kind of things did you come up with just off the top of your head going? Why old people are good allies? Yeah. Old and or injured because I do want to kind of loop the injured into this because you might have someone who's perfectly healthy and young, but maybe there is some kind of an injury that has them on a limited scale. Maybe there's a back injury or a broken limb or some sort of illness or something where they're not able to function at the same 100% as someone who would be there peer. Okay.

14:38Okay. Yeah. So the first thing that came to my mind when the idea for this episode was pitch to me was that older folks may not be as physically capable as someone who is younger or has just been, I guess, more able to stay in shape and do things that are more strenuous and laborious. So the first thing that came to mind was the fact that old people, I mean, they have knowledge, like they have, they know how to do it. Huh? They know how to do it. Correct. They know how to do the things that are, that may need to be done. And like I feel like wisdom is also kind of an important thing to keep, depending on

15:38the scenario, to keep people on track. So the knowledge of certain skill sets, but also the wisdom that elderly people harness because they live longer and they know more than just, they're more experienced at life. So a lot of things they've been through a turn or seen a political agenda play out in the past or a series of storms or whatever. So they have kind of some life history, life experience to add to the mix to keep you from from rushing in. Yeah. Like the most like probably the most valuable experience that they are likely to have would be the like the idea that they've been through whatever scenario it is that you're in, like maybe the area you're in. Yeah. Yeah, they've been in the scenario that you guys are having, you're facing or whatever politically

16:38or economically or whatever, you know, they know how to handle certain situations, depending on where you're located, what region you're in, you know, or maybe like if they used to live in an area where tornadoes were common and they just know common, like the regular practice for tornado preparedness and all the sudden in an area that never ever gets hit by a tornado, you know, they know because they've been in that area. Well let's let's go ahead and bring on some of the coolest old farts that I know, my own mom, Paws, hold on folks and see if we can figure out how to get them unmuted here. Are you there? Yep. I'm here. Can you hear me? I can hear you loud and clear. How about the audience? You guys hear them? Okay. We'll kind of do that.

17:40Yeah. Hello. My dad used to say you could kick a pig and get more out of them than, huh? Yeah. So I thought I'd just bring you guys on the show today just to kind of walk through some of this kind of stuff because I think a lot of times, I mean, you guys are, you guys are involved in preparedness and you guys are always here listening to the shows whenever you can. Hell, you're even on in the chat room on some nights when I can't even make it to the, to do a show. So there's a lot of support that you guys have in the background that people out there don't really know or know about or see or hear about. But just kind of like I mentioned before, it's part of the unit and if something were to happen to either one of you, it would be, and it is and it has been detrimental. I mean, in the past, I mean, it's like, wow, okay, well, we got to shift gears and

18:41make it work. So I guess, but there's another side of that where when you start to lose the sense of value, and I'm one of the reasons why I even thought of this show is because of a comment that dad made this weekend. Actually, you were, you just shoot me a text message and said, hey, what are you doing? I told him I was doing this, this and this and said, wow, I wish I could come and help you do that. And it kind of, it kind of was a little bit bittersweet because I understand it's like you can't do certain things. And you, I guess, how do I try to say here that you can't really discount your inability to do stuff because there are other things that you're, you're able to do. So I guess what I'm wondering is, you know, when, when you get to the point where you start to feel like, you know, I'm not able to do anything like I used to, how do you shift

19:50gears and start looking toward contributing in other ways? That's a good question. Well, normally your body will tell you, you know, as your age, your body is going to tell you what you can and can't do. The only problem is your head doesn't age the same speed as your body. So that hundred pound sack of grain doesn't look that heavy when you're 70 years old, but it is. Yeah. We, we've commented a number of times that our brains still think we're 20 and we can, we're King Kong and can do anything we want until we start doing that. And it's like, no, not so much. That's probably the hardest part about getting old is finding your limits.

20:55And at that point, you got to be careful not to exceed those limits because then you risk getting hurt and making it even worse. Well, that's, that's the importance of knowing your limits. What I did was I would go tell I got spooked. And then stop like, oh, that might hurt tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, that may not be such a good idea. Yeah. Well, and it happens fast. I mean, I remember, so this, not this time last year, I think it was like September last year. You and I were down here in 100 degree, whether zero percent humidity pulling, you know, rolling under the truck, pulling out heads and, you know, doing all kinds of crap underneath and stuff. And I could tell that you wanted to be able to go faster, but, or do more and be able to

22:05stay out and do the work longer. But I could also tell that it was time. I mean, you cut yourself short. And I mean, from my perspective, it was like, okay, well, we, we're, we're, we're going to have to slow down or we're going to have to take a, take a break or whatever because I, you know, I don't want something to land on yet. Right. And I need, I need that knowledge more than I need the extra hands. I need someone to point and shout and tell me how to do this. Yeah. Those, one of Big Brandon's comments when he was asking to have all of us go out there last summer was that he wanted to somehow infuse the wisdom that dad and I had into the, heads of the kids. And it's, it's not something that you can do other than just share your knowledge and

23:10your experiences with other people. And this society has gotten to the point where anyone over 60 is disposable and expendable. And for years, there's been a retired executive association whose whole goal was to harness that knowledge and that experience of people who've been in the business world to come in and train the young, the young bulls. Yeah. And it's something that has been going on for years. It's like, okay, you're 60, go away, you draw flies and we don't want to deal with you anymore. When indeed elderly people have a tremendous amount of knowledge and wisdom. I love my grandparents. They were just amazing. My grandmother in particular had some fabulous stories, but she was born in 1898.

24:16So she went through World War One, World War Two, the Depression and as walking on the moon. So, you know, look at all of that history and knowledge and her experiences. She said that when she was pregnant with my uncle, he was the last of the four kids, her friends were crying for her because it was in the middle of the depression and they felt bad for her. And she said, no, I want this baby. So there's a perspective that people tend to ignore just because the person has gray hair or is over 60 years old. They don't pay attention and they don't, you know, and we're grateful that you guys do, that you recognize the knowledge that dad has and you're willing to have him help you in calling with different projects and stuff.

25:18It's a blessing. Yeah, right for me. Yeah, you go home bruised and tired and sleep for three days when you leave my place. He really doesn't. No, it's good for me. Yeah. It actually kind of retards the aging. Yeah. Because then you have some value. Yeah. And that's, yeah, you feel again. Yeah, that's a key point that I really wanted to get across tonight is that the essence of feeling valuable and being valuable and how preppers need to be able to capitalize on that without going the other way like, like mom was saying, and just, you know, booting them the moment they turned 60 or 70. Are you feeling lucky? He says in chat, we know how to wash dishes and clothes by hand. We also babysit reluctantly.

26:19Yeah. I mean, that's just it. These are the skillsets, either the things that can be extremely useful, especially in an environment where, you know, you just need a hand or you need to get something done or you need to get from pointed to point B and you don't know how to do it. Knowing the right people or the people with the right skill sets within your unit can be a life saver. I mean, like, for example, when I was talking about my dad helping me out with my truck, we busted through that and got it done and I was able to get back to work. So for me, there was a major financial component tied into getting that job done. And I had never done it before and I had never had the ability to get my hands dirty like that before, but I had to do it and I had to have the kind of experience that my dad has because of his background that I'm aware of.

27:21And we've had down on the show for reloading and a couple of other things that I know mom's been on some of Jordan's shows in the past for different skill sets that she brings to the table that are, they may not be like mechanical or physical, but they are definitely skill sets. And I wanted to walk through a couple of things just shot-gotting a couple of light-duty skill sets that can be used or can be tapped if you aren't a situation where you're like, hey, you know, I feel old or I am old and I have nothing to contribute, but I can do this or this. Before we get into that, Colin, do you want to break in at all and talk about anything that you've heard so far? Yeah, I kind of do a little bit because I know this seems totally backwards from what the whole point of that is about, but it's, so as someone who has been in that situation

28:27and has been in a, like a trade school, right, for a short period of time. One of the things I realized very quickly is the things that industries are producing now are much more advanced technologically and much more advanced when it comes to regulations and production. And unfortunately, it's hard to say that the knowledge of the people that used to do all the work is still valuable to the modern production of that particular product because what a mechanic from the 60s knows is not going to do any good for a modern vehicle, but what

29:29a mechanic from the 60s knows is still valuable to yourself, but still valuable to the everyday person who's willing to do things on their own. I mean, the idea of like someone who works on vehicles is the only thing that comes to mind, but I'd imagine there's so many more that that would, that idea would also apply to where unless you're in the field, then it's not really relevant to you unless you want to use it like in your everyday life. Yeah, correct. It's kind of like a math class where you're sitting through math class and you're like, I'm never going to use this ever in my whole life until you start using it and then you use one component of it and that's what you use all the time for your job or whatever, you know, and then if you don't use the other stuff, you pretty much lose it, right? Anyways, that's kind of...

30:30That's kind of... Collins, oh man, oh I'm sorry, go ahead. So Collins come in a moment ago. I don't know if you've ever seen the movie The Intern with Robert De Niro, but it's an excellent movie and it directly talks to everything that we're talking about. He had retired, he was bored, his wife had passed away and he went to work for this gal who had, she had just started her own company, she was an entrepreneur and his knowledge from he and his previous experience helped her streamline and get her business even more efficient and more productive than it was before he showed up. So even, and he had to learn all the new, the email and the computer stuff and all of that, he was right on top of it and you know, we are capable of learning new things. Oh yeah, no, that's not what I was just talking about.

31:32I understand that, but what I'm saying is it's a perfect example of somebody's life experience for coming you to a new business with an entrepreneur and allowing them to streamline their business and be more successful. Right, right. Well, calling you right, especially when it comes to the mechanical end of things, the headband of computers, especially in cars, trucks, things like that have, I mean everything, I mean, it's not, it goes far beyond like motor vehicles, let's talk about like everything that has computers in it, someone who might have been able to repair a fridge, you know, 20 years ago, now we're looking at a fridge and be like, why has it got a computer on it? Well, that's the thing. Yeah.

32:32The computer has taken away the previous, like in cars, they've eliminated the mechanic and they've turned them into parts changers. Because they don't have to, they can't diagnose anything, they can't second guess anything because everything is controlled by the computer. So all the so-called mechanic can do is change parts. Right. So, that's really sad because you've lost a lot of knowledge there. A lot of critical thinking, a lot of how things work and go together. That's what you're losing most is the thought process. So when it comes to doing that kind of stuff back, getting that thought process back,

33:39getting back to basics, this is kind of where I think there's a lot of value when it comes to especially the elderly and the injured. Because if you are incapable of doing the heavy lifting, doing the mowing, doing the wood splitting, doing the hunting, doing the whatever it might be, hell, even picking up a child, you know, that might be too much of a challenge. But there are still things that you can do. So there's a couple of different things that I have on my list, just as task-based things where, you know, if there's someone around who is looking for something to do and doesn't feel like they have the ability to help, these are kind of like the things where I find a lot of value in someone who's done it before, someone with the experience. And if you want, if you guys, I'll throw two or three of them out and if you guys just want to shotgun other ones we can, to just kind of go around the table and talk about

34:45a couple of, you know, direct skill sets that you think would be useful and maybe a quick reason why. So like for example, morning watch. So if you have, if you're in a situation where you need to be able to keep an eye on things early, early in the morning, having someone who's a little elderly on your side, can be a huge advantage because I've never seen an elderly person who decided to sleep until 10 o'clock in the morning. We're lucky if we get till three. Right. Exactly. So having someone on standby for the 3 a.m. morning watch to relieve someone who might be on alert until that time would be huge because those morning twilight hours are the worst, especially for something like that. Just in general, just being a watch. So we're not about another one. Another one I have, like Colin was kind of alluding to is planning or problem solving.

35:48Being able to take a step back and if you see a couple of dudes trying to figure out how to rig up a piece of equipment in a way, you know, you can take a step back and the person who might not be physically handling the equipment can see it from a different perspective and be like, whoa, okay, wait a second. It's leaning a little bit too far this way or you're overweight on one side or, you know, that kind of stuff. Or just general problem solving, like, hey, you know, we've got to figure out some logistics here getting someone from point A to point B. I don't have time because I have to do all the normal things that I have to do. Can you take the lead on this and get the logistics dialed in that kind of stuff? What do you think, buddy? Do you have one or two things and why it might be a useful or critical skill set? Well, I was thinking kind of like broad spectrum.

36:50A lot of, like, we were just talking about, like, computers and stuff like that now, you know, what people, the way people used to go about thinking through things has changed. But a lot of the stuff that hasn't necessarily advanced technologically and a lot of the stuff that we talk about on the podcast is not, it's not computerized. There's a lot of it's off grid and the skill sets that we're talking about is very primitive. So things like understanding fighter starting, you know. Or maybe not to blow up. Yeah. How about what not to fall on, you know, because they've done it about four, you know, they had all the toys and the fun stuff back in the day or dynamite and who knows what else. Yeah. So I mean, I think there's a value and a lot of the things that we, as a society, don't

37:51necessarily practice in our everyday lives anymore because who are surrounded by so many modern conveniences. So like you said, like how to properly rig up a piece of equipment or whatever it might be. Yeah. I got you know, not off the top of my head. What about you, Mom? Are you throwing in there? Well, I think a lot of it is planning. And I know a lot of people think, well, you know, you're old, you're stupid. You don't know how to plan things, but planning is critical to anything obviously. And there was a point in our lives where you guys were going to school. I was going to school. Dad was playing Mr. Mom and all of that had to be coordinated and that entailed a good

38:52deal of planning. And it isn't a skill that you lose over the years. It's something that, okay, I've got to do this and this and this. And if you're organized, you can figure it out like, okay, you go do this. You can you can designate tasks to certain people, even though you may not be able to do them yourselves. You can certainly see the big picture and say, okay, this needs to be done. And then this and then this. And that doesn't require any heavy lifting. It's heavy mental lifting. But it is a critical component to, you know, everyday we're also big picture type stuff too. Right. And unfortunately, a lot of times, people in general just see the crash in front of them. They're not seeing beyond that. And don't do. I can't tell you how many people in my life I've run into who never have a plan B or C.

39:58It's just not in their mindset to, okay, if this doesn't work for me, what's the next plan? What's the next plan and have contingencies in case whatever we originally decided on doesn't work. And if you talk to people, a lot of them don't even have a clue what you're talking about. Yeah. And if you're two or three steps ahead, it's in your head. And if it's, if you have someone who is capable of being like, hey, look, we have to take a step back or we need to go this direction or we need to be able to stop here and take a look or, or, you know, re-evaluate the situation. I mean, that's, that's usually so I, in the safety world, that is a critical role. And it's something that has to be basically forced on people so that they don't rush in to an environment that could keep them. And when it comes to having someone who's elderly or injured in your group, having that mentality,

40:58that planning component to it, it not only helps the unit, but it also, I mean, just for the planning side, but it also takes the weight off of the people who have to force themselves to do it. You know what I mean? I do because a lot of people just don't have that skills. They don't know how to plan beyond five minutes from now when I check Facebook. They can't do it. What about you, Dad? What are some of the hard core home skills that you've got that you think you might contribute? Well, snark. No. I wanted to mention something that I learned a long time ago or that we were told a long time ago when I was in service back before computers. They made it on lighting.

42:02Yeah, yeah, I was just one step above candle. Now, they made a study during our after World War II. And they figured out that to keep one combat soldier on the line takes 20 people to support him in various stages, whether it's whether they're making bullets, whether they're making meals, whether they're carrying messages, you name it. Takes 20 people to keep one combat soldier in the field. And that applies to exactly what you said. Those that can't do the heavy lifting can't do any of the, that they're not mentally or physically capable of doing can always fill a support role of some kind.

43:11Yeah. And that's where the elderly would play a big part because they do bring a lot to the table. Yeah, you just have to look past their, their honoring nature and bad jokes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's, there's a few things you got to kind of over. I mean, the growth of the old man syndrome. Well, it's, well, a lot of it is just the other piece, you know, when Colin was talking about people tend to be more happy in their older years. A lot of it, you have to consider in those early years, they were working, they were raising a family, they were worried about many concerns, housing, food on the table, all of that. That high stress slowly but surely eased off once the fans, the kids went, there are separate ways.

44:16And there was less stress going on. And then the health issues came on, but by and large, there's a lot of elderly, there was a lady that used to come into our office all the time. She was from Brooklyn, so she and I were instant fans because my grandmother was from Brooklyn, but she dressed like she was hitting the red carpet every day. She had a fabulous sense of humor. She was 80 years old and you could never guess it. Talking to her, looking at her, and I told her once, I said, I want to be like you when I grow up. She was awesome. And she was fun to talk to. And a lot of times, you know, somebody may have just looked at her and said, I don't want to bother, but these are the kind of people that have wonderful stories to tell, life stories to tell. And the experiences that they've

45:18had can inevitably help somebody else down the road. If somebody would take the time to listen to them. Well, that's actually one of the things that I had on my list was education, slash entertainment. Because there's a lot of times when, because we don't have a TV here, and we have not had a TV in my house since Colin was probably two years old. And if I could have gotten rid of it sooner, I would have. And it's been an awesome thing. But what happens is you fill the gaps of silence, you know, sitting around watching TV by sitting around the table playing dominoes or cards or whatever and just talking. Or, you know, going over stuff and there is value in that. Even if you don't have power, if you don't have, you know, bright, shiny lights in your face, you have a connection and you can build relationships. And that, along with the educational and

46:20entertainment component, I mean, being able to be to hear a story or to, you know, go over something in jogs and memory or, you know, it allows someone who's lived a life to be able to share their life with the people at the table, you know. And I think that's a big part of inclusion of the elderly in your preparedness plan is, you know, allowing them to share themselves, share their life stories and learn from that stuff. Right. And, you know, because you from my father, you would talk about how when he and his buddies that go hunting, they had built a T.P. and they would lean it up against some pine trees and the next group of hunters that came by, I could use it. And then somebody stole it, you know, and it's like, okay, whatever. But there were a lot of things that I learned from my, both my parents actually and my grandparents that were taskening stories in good lessons too, you know.

47:32So, they're important. Oh, yeah. And you have to take the time to listen to them instead of interrupting all the time like I do. But, Colin, what do you, you've had a few minutes to kind of mull over another one. Think of we got any other skill sets or specific activities you think might be a useful thing to keep in the proper pantry. So, just be... I mean, are we talking like any specific scenario? Yeah, specific task or a specific ability. Like, for example, one of the other things I had was like wood, like tool sharpening, you know, being skilled and taking the time to sharpen a tool properly, you know, and really making sure you got a good edge on something. A lot of times people just blaze right through it because they don't have time. But you give someone who has a little bit of skill, a nice file and a rusty old piece of steel, they'll make something sharp as a

48:37tack for you. Probably the ability to, you know, beta hook and, you know, go out and give food. And if you're in a pinch, and I mean, obviously, it doesn't apply to everyone because, you know, always near water, but in general, it's a good skill to have because it's super simple. But then it's easy to pass on, but it's not... it's really valuable. Yeah, like, what was that? It's like, you got someone who can keep your lines full and, you know, hand you a, hand you another pole once you run out of bait or once you reel and something in. I mean, that could shrink your fishing time or shrink whatever. But also, there was a story that I was told by actually one of my old bosses. Her mother was... I don't know, she had spent some time with one of her aunts or uncles or grandmas during the, who came through the Great Depression. And she went

49:44outside and she basically threw together a weed soup, or excuse me, a weed salad. And basically, she knew what wild edible is existed in their home back yard. And she came back with enough to feed the entire family. So, you know, light foraging, just because you're not out there reeling in a, you know, 15 pounds ham and doesn't mean that you can't contribute in other ways. Like, understanding botany or edible plants and being able to go out and do some light foraging, with a little kid taken with you, you know, show them what's what, have them taste it so that they learn by doing and really kind of build on that skill set and transfer that skill set from one person to another. Dan, you know, when you... Oh, go ahead. When you were, when you sent us that picture of

50:46the Cougar Pau, it reminded me of when dad and I took you boys out to the desert and you were branded and him were shooting and I took you and Eric and we were walking around and I was pointing out different tracks to you guys and trying to explain what they were, you know, like rabbit and mice and stuff like that. Those are things basic survival skills, really, because you need to know, okay, if I'm out here, I'm survival test and I'm not... Well, I lost her for a second. Hopefully, that's not me. Did we lose it? I might have lost... Why'd I lost some... Oh, looks like there was a... Don't take it. There we go. Hold on, I'm sorry about that. We lost you guys for just a second. What was that? He said, Mom. Oh, I was talking about how... When you sent that Cougar Pau print photo to us,

51:48it reminded me of when dad and I took all three of you out, he and Brandon were shooting and you and Eric and I were walking around and I was showing you guys different prints that were in the in the ground around there. There was rabbits and I think there was some deer had been wandering through and things like that and if you're on a survival issue, if you don't know what's wandering around in the area, you're up to starve to death. There's a deer wandering around, pay attention to that and it was just something I was trying to, even though you guys were small and I doubt that you even remember that, it was the idea that I was trying to get you to pay attention to your surroundings. What about you dad? I dropped one more in there and then one more. Magpie got in the flying trash. No.

52:52Carp ain't too good either. Yeah, oh god. And whatever that thing is that you fished out of the Columbia, that had to go back. Well, Ryan's wanted to caught that one. I know, that's what I just said. So one more for you dad and then we'll have to wrap up the show for the night. Well, the the other man in firm can pick up the slack between nothing and the hail and hearty. Yeah. Those that are those that are able to do the job and get it done. And you've got the elderly there that can or the infirm that can plant things, can run errands, can take phones to phone calls. Yeah. Yeah. Anything, anything possible. I mean, just like to go for on a construction site.

54:02Without the heavy lifting. Well, here's the big thing. I mean, I is, and I probably the last question ahead of the show. Does that make you feel devalued or does it do the opposite? Taking taking a backseat to those that are doing the work. Yeah. No. No, not at all. So that actually is good for you. You've done it. You know, how to do it. You can you can give them pointers. And it's not it's not demeaning by any means. There's some people may think it is. But they probably been in control all their life. Yeah. You know, I mean, always been in a

55:05position of authority or something like that to where they had people doing things for them. Anybody that's had to vent for himself doesn't mind helping somebody else. Yeah. Exactly. Well, thank you both for coming on and sharing this topic with me tonight and Colin. Colin, did you want to add anything else before we wrap up the show? No, I don't think I haven't. That's good. I think, you know, we obviously didn't do a commercial tonight, but please do check out some of the other shows this week here on the next generation. Excuse me, on proper broadcasting. We've got James Walton with the I Am Liberty show on Wednesdays. He popped into chat room tonight. So it was awesome to have him. And everyone else here on chat. Thank you for joining us. We got Dane D with the gun of metal armory on Thursday nights. We got Dave,

56:06the NBC guy always dropping excellent daily audio caches. The last American, the strange truth, matter of facts podcast, Rick Austin, Michael Klein, we got Jordan with Phoenix Survival on Saturdays. We got tool man Tim with preparedness. Excuse me, repair, this on I think it's soft Thursdays. And the reliance broadcast with Stephen Menking, the changing earth podcasts with Sarah halfway and by the way, I don't know if I can pull this email up or not. Let me see what she sent out to the group. We're actually doing a binge listening of season one of her next season two, excuse me, episode one binge day and season two launch, excuse me, for the changing earth podcast and Colin is actually joining us in that one. So he voiced over one one guy. And I'm there again with about three or four other different voiceover parts. So it's pretty

57:09awesome. Do check it out. I think that's going to be food. What day is this? Let me see if I can find out. I don't have a date. But stay tuned. Check it out on the prep of broadcasting networks. Keep a list now and check out Sarah halfway show the changing earth podcasts and get the details on the next binge listening of the next episode. And of course, we'll kick off first round available Tuesday with the Patriot Power before we come full circle with the next generation show. We got great shows every day of the week. Thank you so much for joining us. We look forward to joining these other show hosts as we move forward with prep of broadcasting. Please check them out as well and stay tuned for more here at prep of broadcasting. I think for the final takeaway, I think it's really important that the knowledge and experience of the elder people within our

58:14community is not taken for granted. It's easily taken for granted because we get busy. We get busy with our lives with our kids and with our jobs and with prepping and doing all this stuff. But sometimes we fail to see the importance of the people who have already done the same stuff. Or we fail to lean on these people in our lives and these units or these people within the unit, so to speak, for their network or their ability to network. We fail to lean on their skill sets and really know them and learn them and follow the skill sets that they have and listen to what they've been telling us basically. Kind of like was mentioned earlier about the retired executives component. Like, hey, look, this has been done before successfully. All you got to do is listen and follow the plan and you'd be surprised how well it works. You know, we need to

59:17lean on that experience and really listen to what's been done in the past. Maybe write or wrong. And find out why things have failed before you commit to that same failure yourself. But perhaps one of the biggest things that we have to lean on when it comes to learning from the elderly is patience. The patience that they have and the ability to train, to teach and what we can learn just by watching in some cases or what they can bring out by observing what we're doing, making minor corrections, offering suggestions. Hey, you know, put a lever under that and you'll be able to move it faster farther. Don't forget to, you know, factor this in when it comes to your planning, right? These aren't little things, but they're often neglected and they do play a major role, excuse me,

1:00:23in overall preparedness within the unit. So if you're looking at the potential of cutting your losses leaving someone behind or, you know, just cutting them out of the plan entirely, you might want to reconsider because somewhere there's a chicken roaming around who's still able to contribute in the ways that she can contribute, even though she's not necessarily producing at the same level she was in the past. Still part of the flock, still part of the team, still part of the family. Lastly, in case you missed it, on last week's show we did an entire episode on the Dust Bowl and the potential of returning back to that. We've got some even more stark weather reports. And since last week's show, so definitely something worth keeping in high on, if you're interested, check out the previous episode on your, on the show page or on your

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