Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell's Security Team Speaks Out After Her Arrest (9/12/26)

0:00This is Rick Burgess from The Rick Burgess Show. If you're still auto renewing your car insurance without shopping around, you are probably throwing money away. I'm telling you, go check out Insurify. In about two minutes, totally free, you can compare quotes from over 100 companies all in one place. Now, here's what I love. Insurify actually monitors your rates and alerts you when prices drop. So you never miss out on a better deal. Millions of people have used it to stop overpaying. And there's no reason you shouldn't do. Do yourself a favor. See what you could say right now at insurify.com. This is Matt Rogers from Lost Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture East. There's Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try a new food and suddenly it's like, OK, hold on. I got a new favorite food. That's the reaction a lot of people are having when they first try Cupid Mayon. Yeah, it's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it at the grocery store. And this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Cupid only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, almost buttery.

1:01Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers, chefs use it, restaurants use it, people who really care about flavor use it, put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Hi, this is Dave Roberts. Heading into summer without a medical emergency kit, that's a risk. Summer colds can linger and getting sick on vacation can derail everything. That's why everyone needs a medical emergency kit. It includes doctor prescribed medications to treat common and serious illnesses. So if you wake up sick at home or on the road, you already have what you need. It's like having an urgent care and pharmacy at home. Say $45 with code blue at urgentcare kit.com slash blue urgent care kit.com slash blue. We were talking about the proposed bell package that Elaine Maxwell, her husband, her family and friends, and her legal team has proposed to judge Allison Nathan to try and get Elaine Maxwell sprung.

2:02As she awaits her hearing. Now, one of the things we heard about in that bell package was a security team, a security company that is willing to stake a million dollars in their reputation and what have you on the fact that Elaine Maxwell will not come to harm if she gets bailed out. So we have the word from a security company whose name is redacted by the way. And because this company who nobody even knows who they are, says that they're going to protect Elaine Maxwell that we should all just accept them, accept their word at face value and just move along with it and say okay, no problem. You guys are more than capable of handling this monumental task. Well that same security company, they're saying now that they're scared that Elaine Maxwell is going to suffer the same fate as Princess Diana.

3:05So if that's the case, why would you want her out of jail? You epic ninnies? Be sure she's not getting in a car anytime soon if she's in jail and getting into a car crash. And furthermore, I am sure that the fact that Elaine Maxwell is even being mentioned in the same breath as Princess Diana is going to have a whole cadre of people up in arms. Now as you all know, I am not some sort of royalist. I really didn't follow the Diana situation when it occurred. I didn't know much about her relationship with all num-nuts who's about to become the king over there. And I certainly didn't know anything about the new relationship she was engaging in. But I do know this. Princess Diana from all reports was a very good person, decent, gentle kind and everything that you would expect from a princess. Elaine Maxwell on the other hand should not even be mentioned in the same breath as

4:08Elaine Maxwell. That's like talking about to put it into football terms. That's like talking about Ryan Leif in the same breath that you're talking about John L. Wayan. Just shouldn't occur, right? And that's the case here. And for her security team to even dip their toes in this kind of water is a bad strategy in my opinion. Plenty of other analogies that you could have used. Plenty of other people you could have brought up. But bringing up Princess Diana and putting her in the same category as Elaine Maxwell in any capacity is probably not a winning strategy with the masses of people who are following this case. Like myself, a lot of people that are following this case, followed the whole Diana story, followed that whole entire ordeal. And those people are about to be fired up hearing that this security team is trying to

5:13even equate Elaine Maxwell to Princess Diana in any capacity is not going to go over well. And like I was saying a second ago, if you're so worried that she's going to suffer the same fate as Diana, then why in the hell would you want her out of jail in the first place? Wouldn't jail be the safest place for her? I mean, not if you're Jeffrey Epstein, obviously, but you know, for Elaine Maxwell, I doubt that the paparazzi is storming into the jail anytime soon to chase her around the hallways where she'll collide with a wall and hurt herself and die. I don't think that's going to happen in jail. Much more of a chance of that occurring, however, if she gets sprung. So I hope that the prosecutors are wily enough to turn this sort of strategy back in on them and use it against them. If Alice and Nathan grants another bail hearing, I would think that we would see the prosecutors

6:18do something in that regard, meaning using this kind of nonsensical BS as ammunition against the very people who brought it to the battlefield. So let's jump into our article from the New York Post and see what kind of winging is occurring from camp by Pedal Serpent this time. Edline, Elaine Maxwell's security fears she may suffer the same fate as Princess Diana. This article was authored by Rebecca Rosenberg. So again, what exactly is it that her legal team wants? They don't want her in solitary confinement because she has no access to other people. If you put her in the main line, they'd cry that she should be in solitary confinement. And now they're saying, oh, well, she'll suffer the same fate as Princess Diana because

7:20of the media and the frenzy. Okay, well, if that's the case, then let's keep her in jail. We'll keep her in solitary confinement out of all of the options that have been presented. That seems to be the safest assurance that she does not come to any harm. So I think that we should just continue on the course we are on. Keep her incarcerated. And we won't have to worry about all of these what ifs then, right? It's like a controlled environment for scientific tests. And that's what we have here, a controlled environment where Elaine Maxwell can be kept and monitored. Which it continue on this course in my opinion. Elaine Maxwell's security guard whined in a new court filing that the disgrace social lights, co-conspirator, general all around, scuzz bag, bipedal serpent.

8:22Her plight at the hands of the press is similar to the harassment Princess Diana endured before her fatal car crash. Yeah, let's get a few things straight. Princess Diana wasn't involved in trafficking of children. She wasn't accused of abusing those children. And she certainly wasn't accused by anyone of abusing children with Jeffrey Epstein. Okay, so let's just get that out of the way. There is no equation here. We can't equate the two. Princess Diana and Elaine Maxwell are nothing alike. The situations are nothing alike. And the hyperbole coming from the security firm and the security guard is coming on thick. The security consultant whose name is redacted said Maxwell 58 has been the target of aggressive reporters and photographers desperate for a scoop. Well, that's what happens when you have a high profile person such as Gilein Maxwell.

9:24That's what happens when you have somebody who's accused of the crimes that she's accused of. That's what you have when you have somebody who is being protected by a draconian NPA that has been a roundly criticized and said shouldn't exist. That is what you have. Okay. And furthermore, if you had her in some hotel somewhere, do you really think that these same people that you're maligning wouldn't be lining up in the streets doing the same exact thing? What makes you think that she is any safer or she has any less privacy in prison than she would have sitting in some plush hotel room? According to you, there will be an invasion of reporters there. You're giving the legacy media a whole lot of credit, by the way. They can't be bothered to get out of their tribalism. They can't be bothered to get out of their worship of 46. How dare you think that the legacy media would afford the resources that a story like this

10:26should get? How dare you think that? That's never going to happen. The legacy media can't ruffle up enough interest in this case to move the needle at all at this point. Never mind camping out and causing a situation like the one Diana had. Unfortunately, there's not enough interest from the legacy media for that to occur in this case. So nice try. This kind of behavior is not only harassing, but can be life threatening. He wrote in a letter submitted as part of Maxwell's proposed 28 and a half million dollar bail package. A good example is in the case of Princess Diana, who unfortunately lost her life due to press intrusion into her personal space. Newsflash S.O. There is no personal space where your client is. There is no personal space to be invaded by the paparazzi where your employer is.

11:27So what exactly is it that you're trying to prove here? What point are you trying to make, sir, Mr. Redacted Security Guy? Diana's from Warholm sitting. The safest place for Gilein Maxwell is in the custody of the federal government. Diana, Princess of Wales and the mother of Prince Harry and Prince William died in Paris in 1997 after her driver crashed into a pillar while fleeing paparazzi. This is Troy Millens from Ernie Leisure. On Ernie Leisure, we're all about smart money moves. And here's one most people skip and it starts with insureify. Most of us never shop our car insurance. The policy renews every year, the rate creeps up a little at a time and nobody calls you to tell you. You stay with the same company because it's easy and that convenience costs you real money. That's what insureify fixes. Real quotes from more than 120 top insurance companies side by side.

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15:34the house and the paparazzi chasing you around in the Lincoln tunnel. Okay, I don't think it's going to happen. You have nothing to worry about and furthermore, if you're really that worried, I think the best case scenario is for her to just stay where she's at right now. The security experts that he had served 25 years in the British military before he was contracted to guard the UK's third richest person whom he didn't identify by name. Oh, well, well, well, Mr. Big Shot security guy. What are we supposed to be impressed? Well, you spent 25 years in the military for the UK. Okay, great. What does that mean to any of us? Do we should we really care about that? I mean, what pointer are you trying to prove that you've been in the military for 25 years? Your Mr. hotshot security guard, I protected the third richest man in the UK.

16:40So basically what you're saying is you have ample experience protecting the scumiest amongst us, huh? You have ample experience providing security for the biggest dirt bags in society. Give yourself a round of applause, sir. At the time of Maxwell's July 2nd arrest and associate of the security firm had been assigned to protect her from overzealous media according to the Manhattan, the federal filing overzealous media, huh? Nobody could even find her. What sort of overzealous media are we talking about here? The same overzealous media that shows up to other arrests with their cameras ready to go. The same overzealous media that was nowhere in sight when Gilein Maxwell was getting arrested or when Epstein hopped off the plane in Titorbara. That overzealous media give me a break.

17:41Just another technicality, just another loophole that they're looking to exploit so they don't have to face the harsh reality that their client, their employer is guilty as the day is long. His associate was on duty at her sprawling New Hampshire hideout when he noticed a helicopter flying overhead at 6.30 a.m. and assumed the press had discovered the property. Oh yeah, the press had discovered our property. Oh Gilein Maxwell, everyone was looking for her. Yeah right. It was like the sun, the dally mail, some independent content creators, and a few investigative journalists. That was the extent of it. And the rest of the legacy media was just piggybacking off of everybody else's work. Little stop with the press was hounding Gilein at every turn. That shit wasn't occurring, okay? Point blank period.

18:43Two hours later, vehicles sped up the driveway and the garden structure Maxwell to move to an interior room for her safety, the letter says. Oh yeah, for her safety. What are you going to do there, Mr. James Bond wannabe? When the FBI kicks in the door and drags your client out because news flash, the media isn't charging up anyone's driveway, okay? The media isn't speeding up anyone's driveway in a convoy. Unless of course they're accompanying the feds to complete your humiliation of being arrested, then that might occur. But this wasn't the press storming in to find your client and moving her to a safe room, a bedroom, give me a break already, alright? That was Osama bin Laden's boys kicking in the door looking for an Iraqi politician. That wasn't happening, alright? This was a typical arrest. No need to try and safeguard your client to a different room, asshole.

19:45It turned out the intruders weren't the press, but federal agents. Prosecutors have alleged that she tried to flee to another room, closing the door behind her. I arrived, but her security expert countered that she was just following protocol. I mean, these people have such a highly inflated sense of self-worth. Who is showing up at your door, Elaine Maxwell, to try and do harm to you? Give me a break. Maybe your old associates that you were working with when you were an asset in the intelligence community, but certainly not the media. That's certainly not federal agents, so who was it that you were truly afraid of? Who was it that you were hiding from, Elaine? I'll leave that up to all of you out there to figure out. Me, you know where I stand. This lady wasn't working in a vacuum. This lady wasn't just some shrinking violet.

20:47We're talking about a full-blown intelligence asset here. We knew protocol, all right. This is Troy Millings from Earn Your Leisure. On Earn Your Leisure, we're all about smart money moves. And here's one most people skip, and it starts with insureify. Most of us never shop our car insurance. The policy renews every year, the rate creeps up a little at a time, and nobody calls you to tell you. You stay with the same company because it's easy, and that convenience costs you real money. That's what insureify fixes. No quotes for more than 120 top insurance companies side by side. About two minutes free, no phone calls, no pressure. And if there's nothing better for you right now, insureify keeps watching and tells you when that changes, so you're never stuck over paying. Millions of people have used insureify to shop for their car insurance. So insure with insureify. Go to insureify.com. That's INSUR. IFY.com. Insureify.com. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

21:48This is Bowen Yang from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try a new food, and suddenly it's like, wait. That's the reaction. A lot of people are having when they first try QB mayo. It's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it in the grocery store before. And if you've ever just walked past it, some people would say that's a huge mistake. Because this mayo is different. The first mayonnaise uses whole eggs. QB only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, and almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers, some fans even swear by dipping pizza crust in it. And once you notice it, you start seeing it everywhere. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. People who really care about flavor use it. Never try it. Grab the bottle with the red cap next time you're out of the store. Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise.

24:41That would love to have her out for whatever reasons. Me? I don't want her moving one single foot from that facility, not until it's time for trial. She'll have her day in court like everybody else who is remanded to custody before their trial. And she'll have her time then to defend herself in a court of law in front of a jury of her peers. Until that time, the evidence is in such an abundant manner. And there is such a wide ranging variety of issues that come with someone like Elaine Maxwell getting bail that I don't see how anyone could think that this is a good idea. It is beyond, it's beyond mind boggling to me. How anyone could think that this is a good idea, honestly, folks.

25:42I mean, wow. The security firm would be contracted to supply around the clock protection upon her release. And the company would even pony up a $1 million bond to support her application. The letter says, well, that's that's fantastic. It's nice that the security company is just so generous with their money. Do they do that for everybody? How about we get the name of the security company unredacted? We get the name of this company and we find out who the investors are. Who put the money into this company? Who's running this company? Who is in charge of the day to day? Because until we know all of that, we have no idea what sort of scoundrels are jumping into bed here with Maxwell. It just is another small little nugget that shows you her large context. Do you think you'd have access to something like this?

26:42Anyone you know would have access to a security company like this offering this kind of deal? Would alchapo have that sort of deal? Of course they wouldn't. Gilein Maxwell has always received preferential treatment. She continues to receive preferential treatment. And the fact that her legal team would attempt to spin the narrative as something else is disgusting. Let's hope that Judge Nathan and the prosecutors are not hoodwinked by any of this maneuvering and that they keep Gilein Maxwell behind bars until it's her time to stand trial in front of a jury of her peers and across the room from those who she has wronged and to those who she has allegedly abused.

27:47If you'd like to contact me, you can do that at bobby kapuchi at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y-U-S-C-I. All of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box. Let's jump into our article, shall we? And it's from the Guardian. The headline, she was so dangerous, where in the world is the notorious Gilein Maxwell? Riding up on a white horse, Gilein Maxwell made quite the impression. She's got the whole equestrian attire. She's so elegant, recalls Maria Farmer. Farmer was 26 and trying to build a career as an artist when she was invited to stay at a ranch in Ohio with Maxwell and run an art project. So a lot of these stories you see with Gilein Maxwell when we get into them, you'll see that they overlap. But it's good. We need the redundancy and we need to keep her story in the public eye. There's people that are tuning in for the first time I'm sure right now that I've never heard a lot of this stuff.

28:49So these kind of articles are good. They put Gilein Maxwell into perspective and so that we can keep our eye on the prize, right? And the idea is to make sure that she, more than anybody almost at this point, faces justice for what she did. It was the mid 1990s and this was the second time the two had met. Farmer had encountered Maxwell and her friend Jeffrey Epstein at the New York Academy of Art Graduates show. She would go on to work for the pair for a year at the front desk of Epstein's Manhattan Mansion. She was perfectly placed to see who came to the house and said she witnessed young teenagers being brought through the doors by Maxwell. Following an alleged sexual assault by Maxwell and Epstein, Farmer went to the police. She was ignored and we've seen that time and time again with these girls, right? How many times have girls went to the police over this Epstein case and they've been told basically to kick sand pound sand beat it kick rocks get out of here. We don't believe you there's no way this rich man is doing this. Ah, he has so much money. Here you go, right? Shall I buy some money?

29:51Oh yeah, that's a shield. That's the smoke screen folks. These charitable organizations are the smoke screens and that's what these rich people do. They hide behind their giving and they act like since they gave a few bucks that they're entitled to anything that they want, including the flesh of human beings that don't want them to be around them. More than 20 years on, her account along with the testimonies of several other women, including an allegation of abuse from her younger sister Annie, who was 16 at the time, has helped to create a picture of Epstein as a prolific sex offender who abused countless underage girls. It is a scandal that has drawn in other powerful men, most notably Prince Andrew. See, that's it shouldn't just be most notably Prince Andrew. Now, I guess he's the biggest fish and the easiest to go after, right? And I understand we want to bring him down as well. He's definitely on our list, but I would like there to be more information. I mean more of a spotlight on people like Len Dubin and, you know, the other rich billionaires and the academics who were involved in this as well.

30:56One woman, Virginia Roberts, said she was trafficked by Epstein to have sex with Andrew on three occasions. He has repeatedly denied the allegations most recently. Most recently, in his disastrous TV interview, in July, Epstein was charged with sex trafficking and in August, he killed himself, allegedly, in his prison cell while awaiting trial. Since then, attention has turned to Maxwell, 57, his right-hand woman. Yet Maxwell is seemingly vanished. I don't buy it. I do not buy that she has vanished. I know that some of her family members know where she is. And like I said, I have, I had the Thomas Bauer things, the Thomas Bauer things, cooking. And now I have something else cooking about someone in Gilein Maxwell's family with a direct tied Hillary Clinton State Department. So we're going to dive into that as well. I'm getting all my ducks in a row. Like I always tell you guys, I'm not the kind of person that shoots from the hip. I get information and I don't just jump on to make a podcast about it.

31:56I have to do my due diligence. Make sure that everything lines up. Make sure I'm not being taken for a walk by my sources. And then once the process has been completed and once all of my steps have been met, then I run something. So I have something that's going to be run written. I'm going to run it very, very soon. It's about Gilein Maxwell and someone in her family. And I have a feeling that this person probably knows where she is right now. Anyway, back to the article. From what we know, Gilein Maxwell was a principal enabler to Jeffrey Epstein when he was alive, says the lawyer Dan Kaiser. Kaiser is representing Jennifer Oroz, one of the women who says she was raped by Epstein and who is suing his estate. Maxwell and three other enablers. I love it. Sue them all. Sue them all into oblivion at the very least, sue them to get to the discovery phase. And then once discovery happens, ban the doors will blow wide open off of this thing. That's what we need. We need the discovery phase. She was integral in maintaining the sex trafficking ring, says Kaiser.

32:58She provided important administrative services in terms of the hiring of recruiters and management of those employees. The making of appointments and dates for interactions between Mr. Epstein and the underage girls that were providing sexual services to him. She also maintained the ring by intimidating girls, by ensuring their silence. And we've seen that before, right? We've seen her talk to some of the girls and tell them, well, you know, accidents happen a lot on the West Side Highway because that's the way, that's where the young girl ran. I forget which there's so many victims at this point, folks. But we've seen Maxwell. She is definitely not above these threats. And especially, look, especially if she is being run by the Mossad, we all know that the Mossad is brutal, right? Just like our CIA. They're basically the same people, just different countries. I mean, they have all the same tactics and training and blah, blah, blah. But these are the sort of people that are brutal, right? So if somebody's telling you that and you're one of these girls, and you have intimate knowledge of the monster that Gilein Maxwell truly is, then of course you're saying yourself, well, F, this, that could really happen.

34:01I better shut my mouth. Okay, let's see. She is as culpable in my judgment as Jeffrey Epstein himself. Maxwell has always denied the allegations and has never faced criminal charges. Her lawyer has not responded to a request for comment. So her lawyer probably knows where she is too, right? Why isn't the, here's the thing. Why doesn't somebody hire some private investigators? If the police aren't going to do the job, why isn't somebody hire some private investigators? Maybe we should, we should all pull our money and hire some private investigators to look into this. It is believed that Maxwell and Epstein met shortly after the death of her father, the media tycoon Robert Maxwell. After his suspicious fall from the yacht he had named after his daughter, the lady Gilein, in 1991, a $460 million pound black hole was discovered in his company's pension fund. Maxwell was the youngest and said to be favorite of his nine children. They were close and she was devastated by his death.

35:04She had moved to New York that year after her father bought the New York Daily News. In London she had become something of a socialite and she said about becoming the same in Manhattan. It is not known how Epstein and Maxwell met but she is thought to have been his girlfriend initially. In a 2003 Vanity Fair profile he described her as his best friend. Well, my opinion is they met via the operation that they were running. This is all a smooth, smooth moving, smooth operating machine is what they have going on. So Gilein is introduced to Epstein through her handlers. They're told that they're going to work together. They start working together and love blossoms and besides them being in love there are great pair because Epstein and his six sorted ways and Maxwell with her into the social community and the rich community in New York City while it was a match made in heaven for whoever was running them the massage or the CIA. So they took that and they built on it. And well here we are. She was always the most interesting, the most vivacious and the most unusual person in any room the

36:08journalist Vicki Ward wrote in that Vanity Fair profile. Her rolodex would blow away almost anyone else that I can think of. Her British accent shaped by Marbleville College that Oxford University was considered exotic by 1990s New Yorkers. She seemed unusually accomplished too. If that was if if what had said had been true she is a helicopter pilot, a submarine pilot, and she speaks four languages. Oh wow she's so special a helicopter pilot at a bra submarine pilot and she speaks four languages. Oh wow she's so cool. The journalist Conchita Sarnoff knew Maxwell and Epstein socially before the pair began dating and later helped to expose Epstein's crimes. She says of Maxwell she seemed in love when I first saw them together. I believe Jeffrey was taking care of her. I feel Gilein clung to Jeffrey because she felt protected by him. She says Epstein whom she describes as chilly with limited social skills seemed less in love but more enamored. All right see and I don't and I don't really agree with

37:10that I don't know about the whole in love angle. I believe that they were just you know they were a convenient pair and then they were put together by their panlers and maybe they had their own form of love. I don't I don't know perhaps they have their own form of love but really what it comes down to is they were co-workers and you know things happen sometimes with co-workers but I truly believe that they were put together to run this blackmail operation and here we are. Tom Bauer who authored not that not Tom Bauer the banker by the way who authored the biography of Robert Maxwell wrote in a piece for the times in August that Maxwell worshiped rich, domineering men. An Epstein a financier, pedophile, she would have found someone who could restore the extravagant lifestyle she desired. After the death of her father her finances were reduced. She and Epstein seemed mutually dependent. See that folks mutually dependent. She on the financier's money he on her contacts and social ease. Like I said it's a match made in

38:11heaven it's a match made in heaven for the intelligence agencies you have a woman from a very powerful family who needs finances and you have a man who is who has not shy to run a sex operation for you you put them together and they become the dynamic duo of molestation right the Batman and Robin of the of the rape world. It's basically what they were. This is Troy Millens from Earn Your Leisure. On Earn Your Leisure we're all about smart money moves and here's one most people skip and it starts with insureify. Most of us never shop our car insurance. The policy renews every year the rate creeps up a little at a time and nobody calls you to tell you you stay with the same company because it's easy and that convenience costs you real money. That's what insureify fixes. Real quotes for more than 120 top insurance companies side by side. About two minutes free no phone calls no pressure and if there's nothing better for you right now insureify keeps watching and tells you when that changes so you're never stuck over paying.

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40:16next time you're out of the store. Put it on just about anything then you'll understand. Cupid, the original Japanese mayonnaise. Hi this is Dave Roberts heading into summer without a medical emergency kit. That's a risk. Summer colds can linger and getting sick on vacation can derail everything. That's why everyone needs a medical emergency kit. It includes doctor prescribed medications to treat common and serious illnesses. So if you wake up sick at home or on the road you already have what you need. It's like having an urgent care and pharmacy at home. Say 45 dollars with code blue at urgentcarekitt.com. Her social standing was such that it would probably be easier to list the influential people to who Maxwell was not connected. She was close to Bill Clinton and attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding. She donated to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. There are photographs of Maxwell with Ariana Huffington, Elon Musk and Michael Bloomberg. She knew Donald Trump and members of the Kennedy family. She was connected to the British royal family through Prince Andrew and

41:19Sarah Ferguson. Maxwell and Epstein, who loaned Ferguson money to pay off debts, were guests of Andrew at events including Summit Windsor Castle, Balmoral and Sandringham. Prince Andrew in his secret News Night interview, in his recent News Night interview said guests at the parties and dinners in Epstein's New York mansions included academics, politicians and people from the United Nations. Well we have the trifect of scum there right? We've learned that the academics are all scumbags, politicians, goes without saying. And how many different times have we seen the United Nations involved in sex trafficking schemes or child trafficking schemes? The United Nations is one of the biggest jokes in the history of the world and should be done away with. But we know now that it was not just influential friends Maxwell cultivated. One of her friends, you and Relly told Tatler every single interesting, pretty new girl to arrive in New York would end up going for tea with Gielaine then being introduced to Jeffrey. She was the acceptable face of a rather mysterious billionaire. No, she was just the other face of the monster right? The monster has many

42:21faces and she was one of the other faces. She was the respectable face. The face of the socialite, the face of the great English girl who came to America to show you all had to be a premon proper blape out of her. Who gives a shit? All right? It makes me mad every time I read these kind of articles. You know what? I want her in prison. I want Gielaine and Maxwell in prison so bad folks. She deserves to be locked up. The key deserves to be thrown away like Virginia Roberts said. And she deserves to truly feel what it's like to be on the other end of the predator and prey situation. To New York society, Maxwell legitimized Epstein. As the New Yorker writer, Ariel Levy put in broken her podcast about the Epstein case. If you're a teenage girl and a man approaches you in a car, you know to keep on walking. But if it's another woman and she sounds all fancy and well educated, you're probably going to get in that car. And that's a fact, right? It's more discerning to have a woman show up, someone like Maxwell, someone very very educated with that accent, pops out of a

43:21Bentley or whatever. You're not thinking that you're going to be trafficked by this person. You're thinking, holy shit, my ship has come in. I have a chance to make some money maybe here. Get a good job or further my career. That's what you're thinking. And then they flip the script on you and they groom you and turn you into one of their abuse victims. And it's the same pattern over and over and over again with all of these abusers. And I am tired of the folks. I, as sure as I'm sitting here and telling you right now, I am sick and tired of reading these stories about these six sons of bitches. And they're still roaming the streets. Unacceptable. Gilein was key in making me feel safe. Farmer says, I trusted her because she is a woman. She would make us trust her. She would make us really care about her. My sister even said that she would feel so special if Gilein paid attention to her because she had that way about her. You know, the popular girl in school. She was one of those. She knew everybody. Her voice cracks. She was so dangerous. Farmer says Maxwell would do anything to get what she wants and all of it for her is about

44:25power and money. There you go folks. Again, power and money. It's not the sexual acts for her. Okay. Gilein max will get off on power. She gets off on money. She gets off on knowing that she can wield this extreme power, threaten people and know that she's protected by whoever her handlers are. And boy, let me tell you what if we ever find out who is handling her, who is handling Epstein, those people should be thrown alive into a volcano and act of volcano because that's how scummy they are. She was charming initially says Farmer. Everyone was like, this woman is so intelligent, so interesting. And she had this really great personality when you first met her. But it didn't take long for her to become verbally abusive towards the staff she says. I was one of the staff. I would have to go to Jeffrey and say Gilein's verbally abusing me again. Then he would scream at her. It was all like good cop, bad cop. And they loved playing that game with everybody. Wow. And it's true, right? That's definitely how this kind of situation works. One person is the groomer, and then the other person slides in to be the, oh, I'll save you. And now you have the mental,

45:30the complete mental abuse to go along with the physical abuse. And it is just so screwed up that these girls have to go through this. Once she says Ivana Trump visited quite often with people like Ivana powerful people, Gilein would say, hop in the car, you can go on a ride with us. And it was supposed to be my special little treat. Then as soon as they were back at the mansion, Maxwell would switch and shout at her. She says she also says she could be threatening. They had video cameras everywhere in the house. And Gilein liked to intimidate by talking about the cameras. She'd say they're watching you. Who is they? They're watching you. Who a couple of massage or CIA agents buried under the house in some sort of AV room? Farmer alleges that Maxwell would bring in a steady stream of young girls to the mansion, often saying she was casting Victoria's Secret, again, Victoria's Secret, Wexner, enabling at the very least the man needs to be arrested. Owned by Leslie Wexner, a close friend of Epstein. It was really weird to me. I'm like, these models are so young. And she said, yeah, but they need these models for Victoria's Secret.

46:33They go as young as 13 now in modeling. Farmer alleged as Maxwell would recruit teenagers from schools on the upper east side and in central park. 13 to where Victoria's Secret stuff? What is this? You're 810? No, no 13 year olds to be wearing any sort of lingerie. Sorry, that's gross. Disgusting thought. Anyone who wants to see that is probably something wrong with them to be honest with you. I can't even who wants to see a 13 year old in lingerie. Gilein controlled the girls, said for Sarah Ransom, who claimed she was abused by Epstein in a recent panorama interview. She would be the one getting all the girls in check. She knew what Jeffrey liked. This was very much a joint effort. In the same documentary, Roberts calls, recalls traveling back to make Maxwell's house in London after a night in a club with Prince Andrew. In the car, Gilein tells me that I have to do for Andrew what I do for Jeffrey. It is alleged that Maxwell was not only an enabler for Epstein's abuse, but took part in it. Finally, some of one of these articles says that. How many articles have I been freaking out about because

47:35nobody talks about this part of it? It's not just she was enabling. She was abusing these girls in their own records, saying it how she not arrested. In her panorama interview, Roberts then Virginia Roberts recounted how Maxwell and Epstein abused her at his Palm Beach House after Maxwell had recruited her from her job, working as a spa attendant at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. In 1996, farmers as Maxwell and Epstein sexually assaulted her. She went to the police as well as more than one FBI agent, one of whom took action. Excuse me, none of whom took action. She also spoke to Ward in 2002 for a vanity fair profile. Ward has since said that the then editor, Graydon Carter, cut out the entire part about farmer and her sister after being pressured by Epstein. A spokeswoman for the magazine has said, Epstein denied the charges at the time, and since the claims were unsubstantiated and no criminal investigation had been initiated, we decided not to include them in what was a financial story.

48:36Again, we see how transparent that is. If they can score political points with the story, they don't want us to, they don't care about substantiating anything. They'll run it off of sources, this, that, the other thing, anything to hurt their political opponents. But if it comes to somebody being molested or trafficked or raped, come on, we need to have evidence of that. You can't just say that. Maxwell and Epstein's relationship seems to have been complex. Sarnuff says, Maxwell once told her she wanted very much to marry Epstein. Maxwell is very clever, Sarnuff says, in spite of her personal insecurities as a result of her father's death and financial challenges, I believe she nevertheless knew exactly what she was doing when she agreed to solicit girls on his behalf. However, I don't think that phase of their relationship began until she understood Epstein would not marry her. I don't believe that. I believe that Maxwell definitely knew what she was getting into with Epstein. I'm going off of the assumption that this was the intelligence operation. They were co-workers. You ever see the movie, the show, the Americans? Think about that, but running an operation to Blackmail,

49:40high profile people in America. And that's basically what this was in my opinion, an arranged relationship. Farmer says Maxwell told her they were married. In another interview, this time with the Miami Herald, which has doggedly investigated Epstein, Robert's alleged as Maxwell had asked her to have a child with Epstein and hand the baby over for Maxwell and Epstein to raise. She would be paid an allowance of $200,000 a month. This is how they thought about people. Come on, Kate, come over, we'll rape you a bunch of times. Oh, and then you can be a surrogate for our kid. We'll give you 200 grand a month. I mean, that's what we'll do, but you'll be under arc and complete control. Ransom, who says she was kept for six months on Epstein's private island and claims she was raped several times a day, said there were never like a couple, Jeffrey and Golan were best friends or like brother and sister, never holding hands or kissing. And she wasn't his employee. No, they were partners and not in the partners in the sense of you and your girlfriend or you and your wife or you and your husband. In partners in the sense of co-workers, they were running an

50:40operation and they just happened to be paired together by whoever the intelligence agency was. And that's my opinion. When Maxwell found that farmer had spoken out, she made threatening calls, farmer says she has been in hiding for many years. Gielin kept threatening my life. She found that where I was living and she would send messages to me or I would get a call and I would have to move again. Most of her threats were veiled. You better look over your shoulder because there's someone coming for you. She told me she was going to burn all of my paintings. My career was burned. In 2015, Robert sued Maxwell for defamation. After Maxwell said she was lying about the allegations she had made, the case was settled out of court and Maxwell began retreating from public view. She was no longer seen in public with Epstein after his 2008 conviction for soliciting underage girls for prostitution. For this, he was given an 18-month prison sentence and a sweetheart plea deal that saw an investigation into his abuse of about of more than 30 underage girls for which he could have been given a life sentence shut down. He served just 13 months,

51:4413 months, much of it on day release. Four years after this, Peola Fulstrup, a model who had been friendly with Maxwell in the 90s met her out of funeral. She hadn't changed exactly but she was hyper and talking very fast, says Fulstrup. All she seemed to want to talk about was the ocean and the charity she was involved in. Those who knew Maxwell say the charity helped her rebrand herself after allegations against her were reported. Again, folks, charities and money to provide a shield. So remember when you're, you know, it's great that these rich people are doing charitable works, right? But we always have to ask ourselves, we have to be cynical. We have to be cynical. What are they getting out of this? In August, Maxwell was photographed in a burger restaurant in Los Angeles. She has not been seen since. Although there have been press reports suggesting that she is preparing to do her own TV interview. I don't know if that photograph was real or photoshopped or some of it was photoshopped. I'm certainly not an expert in that regard. I know some of it was photoshopped but I think the actual picture itself was real. Not too positive about that. So if

52:46somebody out there listening has the evidence on that and factual evidence on that and shoot it over to me, that's great. But as far as I know, the picture was taken but some of the other things were photoshopped in the backgrounds and stuff. Kaiser says he has not been able to serve Maxwell with legal papers because she is off hiding somewhere. Does he have any idea where she is? No, I wish I did. We've looked at all various places so far to no avail. We thought we had a lead in some compound in Colorado, a very good friend of hers, a wealthy family. We thought she might be there but we're not sure. I expect the FBI knows exactly where she is. They may be building a case. I don't believe they've given up on pursuing some of Epstein's enablers and I have to believe that would include Maxwell. I'm going to tell you right now folks, if they don't go after Maxwell, we need to march on the Justice Department. We need to have a million person march on the Justice Department where we demand answers and we demand justice. Not just for these girls but for all the people that have been victimized by these sons of bitches. Sarnoff thinks Maxwell is in a country

53:50that does not have an extradition treaty with the US. I agree with that. I highly believe that she is that savvy and that slick and that her handlers know better. There have been attempts to portray Maxwell as another of Epstein's victims, someone who is in thrall to this rich, powerful man, just as she was to her father. The journalist Mark Edmonds, who has been writing about Maxwell, said recently she was possibly a victim too. It was a tricky relationship. She was a victim too? Mark Edmonds, huh? How much money were you given by Jeffery Epstein? Mark Edmonds, maybe we should do a deep dive into you. Maybe we should have a closer look into Mark Edmonds, who thinks that Gilaean Maxwell was just a victim in this too. No, Mark Edmonds, you're a victim of stupidity, my friend. She is not a victim, says farmer of Paul. She is a victimizer. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. We agree with you there, Ms. Maria Farmer. She is definitely a victimizer. And what happens in 2020 to predators? That's right. In 2020, predators

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