
About this episode
Mexican food in France is often treated as cheap street food, but chef Carla Kirsch is challenging that narrative. In this episode of Fishwives of Paris, we sit down with the Mexican-born, French-trained chef behind Alebrije in Lyon to talk about bringing Mexican cuisine into the French fine dining world.
We dig into why French diners expect Mexican food to be inexpensive, why spice still scares people in France, and how many core French ingredients originally came from Mexico and the Americas. Carla also shares what it takes to source Mexican ingredients in France, from dried chilies and tomatillos to masa made from French corn, and what it’s like to open a restaurant in France as a foreign woman.
Places & Institutions Mentioned in This Episode
- Alebrije (Lyon) – Carla Kirsch’s fine dining Mexican restaurant
- Milpa (Lyon) – Carla Kirsch’s more casual taco shop
- Institut Paul Bocuse (now Institut Lyfe), Lyon – where Carla trained in classical French cuisine
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