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Mueller vs Flynn: Two legacies, one divided nation

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Byrne Unscripted with Martha Byrne – Two prominent figures in American public service, Robert Mueller and Michael Flynn, leave sharply contrasting legacies. As reactions unfold, their careers highlight deep political divisions, legal battles, and competing narratives about justice, power, and accountability. Their stories reflect how service and controversy intertwine in shaping how history judges national leaders...

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Hello everyone, it's Martha, it's a burn on scripted breaking news, of course. I have a few shows that I've been working on to bring to you, but with the passing of Robert Mueller and the reactions across the board of his passing, I thought it should be addressed, because again, if I've lived through something and I can share my own personal experience of how this affected my life in some way, I'm going to share it with you. The history of Robert Mueller as a man who served the country and a family man and all of that, and many, many people in the FBI

retired, had many positive things to say about Robert Mueller. When I went on social media and I saw that the FBI, I would say, main player in my husband's case, was praising Robert Mueller. It triggered something in me that I think is very important for people to understand about the history of Robert Mueller and how it affected my life and my family's life and what he did, and his guidance in the FBI as the head affected where we are today and on a national security level and how the tactics that were taught under his leadership really caused a tremendous amount of off-the-rails behavior by agents. Because of a bad agency's opportunity to do something bad and doesn't think they're going to get caught, they end up doing some very bad things.

And of course, our president, President Trump, who lived through the Russian gate fiasco posted something about being glad that Robert Mueller is dead. And of course, everybody was outraged how could you say that? He's a family man and this is not how you're supposed to be diplomatic about. You know, when this and that, first of all, you're talking about Donald Trump, who does not hold back of his own feelings. The Russian gate scandal that was all baloney and all made up the absolute violations of every right imaginable, like I said, Watergate was his kindergarten compared to what the FBI under James Comey and Mueller and Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco and you know, these these players who were going to do anything to get Donald Trump to be arrested, which they did. I mean, they ended up happening. So, you know, the reaction of the president saying

that he's glad he's dead, I think needs to be looked at a little bit. And my first reaction was anybody that says, that's horrible is that, you know, until your family's, until your child's bedroom has been raided by the FBI and your wife's underwear draw has been siphoned through by the FBI with a fake warrant under the Merrick Garland team, which is also goes back to Mueller. They're all in the same space. So, the visceral reaction of Donald Trump, I get it, how he reacted. It's very easy for somebody to say who has not lived through that. And can you imagine what Donald Trump knows about the country under these people, what they did, if they did it to us, my family, they did it to the Trumps, they'd done it to, I think there were

over 275,000 people who were spied on illegally by the FBI. And that's a very conservative number proven that they had looked at their phones, they had siphoned through their personal posts. I mean, it's bad, it's severe. And I think that's where his, and I'm not making an excuse, I'm just trying to explain how I get it. I get it. I let God take care of that for me. I'll do what I can on this earth to hold people accountable for what they did to my family. I will use every process I can. I think these people are evil. I think they are demonic. I think they are led by their ego. And greed, they put people's lives in danger for their own desire for power.

And when a layman comes in a civilian like a Donald Trump or the little guys and they can be squashed or attempted to, at least in the president's case and ours, you have a very personal reaction to it, especially when you see someone involved and taking down your own family like myself, praising this man, I want to explain why they praised him, Robert Mueller. Why did the people involved in my husband's case? And there's more than one that I've seen post about it because you I look everywhere to see how people are reacting and I kind of weigh it that way. You have to go back to 9-11. After 9-11, there was panic, obviously. And America was all on the same side. The worker bees trying to solve this issue of this terrorist attack on the ground were wanted to be the next hero to save the day. And we knew that the FBI wasn't sharing intelligence.

We know everybody was kind of working in their islands. And that's why we got into the situation we got into in the first place. But after 9-11, everybody wanted to get the terrorists. Why not? So they created the Patriot Act, which was a surveillance intelligence apparatus to intercept communications between terrorists. But what happened was he was supposed to be used for foreign influence, foreign bad actors. And what happened was the FBI was capturing a lot of intelligence that had nothing to do with terrorists. And I've spoken about this before incidental capture, for instance, these kind of oopsie. Well, we captured a guy who may have been in Saudi Arabia or wherever, pick a country. At that time, any country didn't matter. And this is what we know

as laymen even knowing what happened. And it kind of brought out the intelligence side of the FBI. And these are not intelligence. They were never an intelligence operation, the FBI. They were supposed to be taking down, you know, the bad guys, meaning crimes, financial crimes, the, you know, the DEA was the drug cartels and they were really just, they were lawyers. Most of them were had a, not a police background or an intelligence background. So you hear you have men and women who have no experience whatsoever in intelligence being charged of probably the most sensitive material in our, in our, in the world. And at the beginning, everybody was cheering it because they, they were capturing or they were allegedly. I mean, we don't, you know, again, we still don't know everything. But and then the FISA warrant came, the FISA warrant was something that so much due diligence had to

go into that process to be able to get a FISA warrant, which was a secret warrant, meaning six secret. Nobody, you know, how do you, to even find out that you had a FISA on you? I believe very strongly that my husband had a FISA warrant on him. And we may never know that. We may, someday, find out if the inspector general or if there's an investigation, spying on an American citizen is illegal, by the way, especially when you know he's innocent. But they were supposed to go through something, and I've talked about this before, but I think it's important to understand the Robert Mueller issue. They're supposed to go through something called Woods Procedures, which is like, it's the steps that had to be taken to be able to get the court to sign off on such an invasive, relax a better word, listening in, you know, what do you, everybody has to understand what just happened the other day.

When Ted Cruz was grilling an FBI, former FBI agent who was very upset that he'd been fired, let go, and he was, when Ted Cruz finally got to speak and question this man, and the information came out that Donald Trump's chief of staff, Susie Wiles and her attorney had been spied on through a phone or something by the FBI. The lawyer wasn't aware of it, and Susie Wiles certainly wasn't aware of it. She was his campaign manager. Now, someone has to be held accountable for that. Someone either colluded to get that warrant to be able to go through the phone, but I'm saying is what started out as something that was supposed to be so pro-America to protect us

was abused and is still being abused. Cash Patel, who's the new head of the FBI, it turns out that Jack Smith, who was in attorney, who was brought in as a special counsel, a special I called, brought in to do all the dirty work, they were looking at his bank records, his phone records, his everything you can imagine. This is the head of the FBI director. So, Mueller, so what does Mueller do? Under his leadership, the abuse of this spying went off the rails. And then when Donald Trump became president, the Russia, the Russia gate hoax that he, and it is a hoax, the whole thing was a hoax. They knew it was a hoax, Robert Mueller knew it was everybody knew, but they leaned into it to get rid of him. But you have to wonder why. You know, this is where I wonder where Mueller gets a, where did it go wrong? Where did it turn?

Because a lot of people had a lot of positive things to say about Robert Mueller and their experience. Now, when I said the guy who took part of my husband's case, who's praising him, I go, well, and had worked with him and under him for a very long time, I go, maybe not so much. Because the guy who went after my husband was able to feel so comfortable to go after my husband and zero in on him, and excuse any other crimes that were going on in about China and in New York FBI and New Jersey, just let that go. Protect a CCP official in my husband's case who was not a victim. If that guy is praising Mueller and under his tenure was said, wow, what a leader. What more can I deduct from the fact that that's where he learned, that's how he learned to do what he did to my family? And it's not just him. There's many, many, many, many like that. So I take with the grain of salt the positive things, people say, well, he did some good things,

but he also spent a ton of money on the investigation into Donald Trump and he knew there was nothing there. So what's his legacy to be? So let's talk about that. Okay, he's a father. Okay. He served. I get it. My answer is many people do very, very bad things to harm people, our fathers, and served our country. And when he was put on to be questioned about his investigation, Robert Mueller was having some serious mental, he couldn't remember. He was definitely having he was impaired in some way. So what about that? When he was questioned about by Jim Jordan and

judiciary about his investigation, what he knew, when he knew it, why did he know that the steel dossier was fake? Why did he pursue it? Why didn't he know? He was very passive, confused. So okay. Who sacrificed Mueller? Weissman, there were so these other people who were involved, to put him in a position where he was a vulnerable adult male who couldn't quite remember things. So he's being used by the establishment at the end of his his career. And you see it and you can't deny it. So in the end, why did he do it in the first place? Was there a regret at the end of his life?

For what he had done in 2016 in the Rushagate scandal. And he locked up President Trump's people and threatened them and put them in prison if they didn't turn on Donald Trump. This is not this is not America. So if you're part of that, if you're part of that, the breakdown of the American justice system, what's going to be your legacy? Is your legacy your time served? The country? What is it? Do I understand Donald Trump's reaction? I do. It's a visceral reaction. When I see the people that did this to our family, moving on to become partners in law firms

and having big jobs and you know touting themselves as these experts and all these things, it makes me sick to my stomach. So I do everything I can to educate people on the facts of what these people did and what they are. But I had to, you know, I took a moment because my reaction and some people's reactions were different. And maybe seven years ago or eight years ago, if this didn't happen to me, I wouldn't be able to understand how someone could say, I'm glad he's dead. Here's the thing. If someone harms you or your child and they go and they move on to the next chapter of the universe, how you feel about it is how you feel about it. No one's going to

tell you how to feel about it. You just do. And someone once said to me, I don't wish bad upon people. I let karma take care of it, but if something happens, just let me find out. I'm not wishing it upon anybody. They're making their own bed and they're making their own legacy. That's on them. As Catholics, you forgive. But I always said, I used to say for five years, how can I forgive somebody if they're still doing it? If it's not over, if they've continued to punish. And Donald Trump has dealt with this for 10 years longer, 10 years, 10 years. And then they went after his family and went into his child's bedroom and he went to his wife's bedroom and her underwear drawers and put them in prison or tried to, I should say, mug shot.

And all of his people that supported him and worked for him who did nothing wrong. So, you know, the fact that Robert Mueller started this intelligence state of the FBI, which is was completely abused. And right now, they're going to be voting on the 702, which is the surveillance, right? And isn't it a shame that the bad actors who did the bad things to good people, that's what we think about. We think about surveillance. How could it be limited? If you're surveilling somebody or the phones or, you know, getting their information, listening in and you capture something that is another crime. What are you supposed to do about it? Do you rub your little hands together like,

oh, we got another one? What happened when the case agent in my husband's case got my husband's phone number in 2017, April? Because he had filed a police report that he was doing surveillance that month and he had his information. He had his phone number. He had his everything about him. Does he call my husband? Does he call the other NYPD retired guys who worked with him on that case in 2017, which they had their phone numbers? No, they don't. They get a search warrant seven months later after they knew he was innocent. See my problem with all of this? They never thought we'd find out. They never thought that they would be caught and they were. The fact that Kashpatel became the director of the FBI and he was able to find the secret buried files of the surveillance of Susie Wiles that were kept in some sort of deep state vault.

No one would ever known that. The senators that were spied on, Congress that were spied on, only Republicans, by the way. Lying on search warrants to the judge, non-disclosures, not telling them that it's a congressman. People don't understand the enormity of this and how bad this is for our country. I do. And who did Robert Roller listen to Obama? Hillary. Komi. Brennan. Peter Struck. At least a page. As someone said, I hope before he passed, he repented in his own soul for what he did.

That's his journey in life. That's his path. But let me tell you something. If you have a family and you have children, how do you want your children to remember you? My last example was that of everyone that I've known in the military, where it's family, friends, there is not one ounce of their entire being that they would ever collude with anyone else to undermine the will of the people. They serve the country. They don't serve people. Whatever you want to call it, the deep state, the top tier of people who don't really care

about the everyday American, a soldier who defends every American, a man who serves the country or woman serves every American, everyone. But something has to happen where you turn. Where does the turn happen? Do you go along because you have that power and you're now told by someone to execute that power and the way that you're told are you following directions? Well, that didn't work in history. If you know it's a crime and you know you're doing something illegal, I don't care what placard hangs on your door. You don't do it. And it wasn't about finding loopholes, by the way. It wasn't about finding these little loopholes to get around to spying on Carter Page who worked under the, it was going to work under the president. They literally just broke the law and the rules to fit what they needed at the time.

I pray for Robert Mueller's soul. I pray that now that he is on the other side that whatever spiritual power he has to heal what has been broken will be translated into something here on this earth. Maybe people that were under him will now come forward and say, this is something we did not want to do, but we felt pressured to do so. I don't know. Would I go out on the social media and cheer the demise of my enemies? No. Because I can't hold on to that. I can only do what I can do in my control and the rest is up to God. But I will fight like hell any way I can to hold them accountable before that happens.

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as a civilian. It is almost impossible, very rare, that the results end in your favor. There's a there's a reasons for that. At some point, somebody, probably an attorney, US attorney, or a judge, or an FBI agent, somewhere along the line, the end congress this happens to as well. They get immunity. You know you watch, sometimes you watch congressional hearings if you do that and you see them blatantly lying or just making up, saying these most outrageous claims which are clearly false or at least not vetted in any way, shape or form. You think how do they get away with it? How does, I mean, pick one, accusing everybody of all these potential crimes, but then nothing happens, but they just put it out there as fact and then nothing happens.

For example, I believe it was in 2022 and the China Committee in Congress, the select committee on China put a large picture of my husband, huge poster of my husband up during hearings, when the case had still yet to be adjudicated and I lost my mind and I found out, well, they have immunity. What do you mean they have immunity? They can put my husband's picture up, they can defame him across the world and nothing happens. The case is still pending and the judge is still yet to rule on our motion to vacate the sentence, the verdict and right after the trial. They put a picture up and we have no recourse. No. Oh, okay, which led me down another traumatic reminder of what we saw at our trial, which was latent lying by the prosecutors shifting the statute of the far law, foreign agents registration act along, lying,

blatantly lying and prosecutors get immunity, FBI agents get immunity. Now, let's take a different avenue, police officers often get immunity. For instance, when you have good cops and they get into situations that are again, the 0.001% that anybody in the entire world will ever get into regarding interactions with the public. There's an immunity issue for police officers so they can do their job. So not every single minor infraction according to the subject in fact, bringing it is to be litigated. There's a reason why they have this certain amount of immunity. Now, I noticed in the language that the FBI agents would use, for instance, in some of the materials. In our case, they'd use the words honor about, I believe, you know, to cover

themselves. They didn't always do that, by the way. And that's where you hopefully can have some sort of, I don't even know what the word is, but, aha moments, but, you know, you have to have a million aha moments to get any kind of restitution or, you know, accountability or anyway. So the case that Michael Flynn brought against the DOJ is, was interesting because they had massive amounts of evidence that he had been set up, if you don't know who Michael Flynn is, General Michael Flynn, who was tapped to be in the Trump administration at Trump 1. And he was extremely dangerous as far as the other side was concerned because he was the only one who had testified in front of Congress regarding the war and that he didn't agree with Obama's decisions. And that was a big no-no. And he knew that by testifying in front of Congress that

the actions that had been taken were, that he was against them by stating that publicly, he knew that that was stepping over a line that some didn't want him to cross, but he had to do it because he had integrity. And he had, he was, as we spoke to that earlier, when you serve the country with honor, you cannot, in good conscience, go against that. It's just not how you're wired. There's the good guys, right? These are the ones who declare an oath to protect the country foreign and domestic. So right when he did that, it was a bad for Mr. Flynn. And then Obama warned Donald Trump, you know, we can really trust pretty much anybody but the one person you have to look out for was General Michael Flynn, which gave Trump the reason 100% reason to hire him because if there's a reason that Obama was saying that. And again, Donald Trump had no real understanding of politics until Trump won. He learned on the job, which again, they knew that FBI knew that, took

advantage of it. Comey admitted it FBI head of the FBI James Comey actually bragged about knowing that Trump was not a well-versed politician. So they sent in agents FBI agents against to question and didn't necessarily follow the proper protocol anyway. So here you go. So Michael Flynn gets accused of colluding in some way with Russia, Russia gate, all this nonsense. And of course, he denies all of that. And his story is very compelling. And there's a movie about his documentary, which is a fascinating and worth watching to understand the scope of how far they went to get him. And he was fighting it. And then the threat came in that they were going to go after his son.

And Michael Flynn took a plea. And as time went on, he withdrew that. President Trump was going to pardon him. And Michael Flynn said the pardonery came in the mail. He never opened it. And he ended up having the whole case thrown out. So he didn't even need the pardon. I think it's still in a envelope somewhere. My point is what was done to general Flynn, very similar to what happened to our family, accused you of something you didn't do, create a case around it, make the public think you are a traitor, defame you, have their the ops, whatever they're called, I don't know, the other side, whatever they're called, these conspiracy theorists putting together, I don't even know what he wanted. I don't know what any of those onens are. I don't know, it doesn't matter to me, don't care. You know, too, with all the conspiracy theories about what side Michael Flynn actually is on. Now, if you just look at the facts, which

to me, the facts lean into what I've seen, which is how to get him out, figure something a way to do it and then destroy him, cost millions of dollars. His family is destroyed and they go after his child. So what are you going to do? But in the end, he withdrew his his plea deal and the case was thrown out. And I guess about a year ago, he decided to sue the government for 50 million dollars after Trump got in. I believe it was soon after, or maybe I don't want to make sure, I mean, it doesn't matter. The date doesn't really matter. It wasn't that long ago is what I'm saying. And he sued them in Florida, which again is a state that was, would be much more open to hearing a case. People have to understand it where the venue is, meaning where you file these cases, extremely important, because if you have a

unbiased team, and I think with this administration, you're going to have the most unbiased team you're going to see, meaning or balanced at least, to review these cases, which takes some time. And he apparently got a settlement of about 1.2 million. That's what the press is saying. I don't know on the number, but he, but he did win. And pretty swiftly considering, I know people who have had cases for 10, 12 years when it dealt with some sort of federal government case, because they have the money, they have the time, they'll just wait it out and just keep punishing people at law fair. It goes many ways, not just federally, or it goes against the little guy. And I say the little guy, meaning you're working alone against a massive institution. So

what does that mean? Why is this so important? You know, Michael Flynn thanked Todd Blanche and Pam Bondy, Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General for this, when this result came in, but this kind of, it's admission of wrongdoing by paying out is very symbolic. People are very upset that not enough people are getting arrested, they're not, the accountability isn't coming fast enough. Some people are tied up in courts with different cases. There's a lot of frustration around, but I wanted to talk a little bit about why this is such a big deal. And again, you have the media trashing him again, even though the case was thrown out, they're still going after him. People call him a grifter, he's making money, but here's

the bottom line. I'm sorry. You know, you ruined the guy's career, you trashed his name. He has, God knows how many millions of dollars in legal bills he has to pay. If he wants to make money going out and speaking, what's he supposed to do? Say no. I'm not saying he has to take every, I'm sure he doesn't take every opportunity that comes along, but you know, the guy has to make a living. And they've destroyed him for 10 years. So not every, and not every appearance is going to be universally approved by the people, meaning judgment never ends in this country. But you know, the media is still going after him, even though he is cleared completely. And now he's really compensated, but what does it mean? If the government is saying that what happened was an unjust to him, and you know, no real statement, it says that people are paying attention,

writing an horrific wrong. And when it's a symbolic person of that stature, that stature that is a symbol of what was good in our country, who's not only served, but a racked up guy that was taken down for politics, has now come for a circle. It's extremely symbolic for our country. It's very symbolic by this Department of Justice also, that they are taking these cases very seriously. And there are many more. And there are many more people in the wings that are waiting. The wheels of justice turn slowly is not an exaggeration, but there's a reason for that. They're just like a trial or a charge. They want to break you. They want to bankrupt you. They want to win at all costs, no matter what the truth is. So someone like a Michael Flynn or myself or

anybody that chooses to fight back. And there are others that I'm talking to now who are who have been through the same exact hell and are holding on by a thread. Let me say it's up to us. It's up to us to do it. We've already come this far. We've already fought this long and hard for what was right. We have to finish it. We have to go across the finish line. We've done that. It hasn't been easy. Very painful. But there was no choice. And you sometimes hear cases and you think, man, it would be easier. They're just going to railroad you until you cave. And even if there's the slightest Iota that it could be interpreted a certain way, it's like how do you even begin to fight that? And the government knows that you're not you're not going to win. They're going to stack everything against you to do it. But I've often said, you know, people get very frustrated about

the government and like you can't win. I say it's it's and I talked about this last week. And again, I'll probably keep talking about it because I think it's important for people who listen to this and think, why does anyone ever get held accountable? Is that it's not going to be like the movies. It's not going to be Superman coming in and literally reversing the earth. If you're old enough to remember that movie. To create earth, I should say redo, you know, take it over, reverse what has happened. It's going to be one win at a time. And the Michael Flynn win is a huge win. And I'm sure a lot of the little guys are frustrated. It's not them. But the reality is it is it is all of us. Maybe our result won't be exactly the same. But if we're truly fighting for the next guy, if we really are fighting to the to the bloody end of all this, we want to make it as unattractive for others

to fall in line with the bad actors and the bad cops, the bad prosecutors, the bad judges. Consistency, strength, belief in the truth. I always said, you can never say you didn't do everything you could. That's why when Mike was left in prison in Michigan, I was out of my mind angry because I thought so hard and he was still there. And someone put him there on purpose. I'm going to find out who did it. Because I'll never give up, you have to let go at some point. But I will always continue to work to figure out who did this. Well, something happened, will there be accountability? I don't know. I just want them to know that I know. And I will make their names public. So when they go for their next job, that will be part of their history

and their footprint for what they did. There's so much evil in the world, there's so much fraud, there's so much darkness, there's so much, but yet at the same time, we have to embrace the little victories, which are big ones, when you're going up against such massive darkness and evil. The David and Goliath story is quoted quite a bit. But strength comes from inside. I want people to see these little wins. I talked about the judge getting arrested for

allowing the illegal immigrant to run out the back of the courthouse. And she's now in trouble. She's going to be probably a bit debentched. I think she was already, there's a woman in New Jersey. I don't know if she's a congresswoman or something. She was blocking the ice entrance. And she assaulted an agent. She is now, her case is now going forward in New Jersey. And she thinks she's above the law and that she was just there doing, no, she wasn't. She obstructed justice. Looks like her case is going forward. She's very upset about that. And why is that important? Because nothing like that had happened before. It's been years. I mean, if ever, that happened. And can you imagine what went under the radar that we didn't even know about? And again, I'm not a, I say glass half full, but I'm more of a observer of what's changing. You put enough good people in places of power. And they align

on mass. It starts to change. What's happening in New Jersey with our governor is in Virginia, is terrifying, terrifying. How do we fix that? I don't know. I would say shed the light. We can't fix everything, but we can at least recognize the shift. It appears that the Supreme Court is going to stick to election day as election day, for instance. These malign ballots, these no postmark, these ballot stuffing, the cheating. It appears that we're going to go back to the way we used to vote in this country,

which is going to throw a wrench in all the cheating. That's a win. Again, I wait patiently, but it certainly appears that's what's going to happen. That's a win. And the reason why, if you're not involved in any of these politics, or you're just trying to live your life with your family, we all have something in our day to day that these bad decisions with bad people affect our day to day, whether it's your electric bill, or it's the safety of your children in school, or trying to make a living, or put gas in your tank, or the day to day flying out of the airport. When this is shutting down the government, and there's lines down, God knows how long the President intervenes, brings in ice, everything is better because they're trying to get people out of these airports. Look, we have to express our at least a little bit of

gratitude that we're fighting the good fight, and that's worth it. There's more of us than of them. If we all wake up, and we all fight for our country, in any way we can, whether it's being more involved in our children's lives, to raise children who will be the greatest fighters of all time for this country and their own children. If we can do that, that's a huge success. That's probably, as a parent, the number one. So to see Michael Flynn, he was talking about, he just came out and did a video talking about this victory, 10 years, he said, 10 years of his life. But what did he say? But I'm going to keep fighting because I love this country. That's a soldier. That's an American. That's someone who wasn't afraid to push back when they tried to destroy him. They did. But the soldier, the fighter, the heroes,

they just believe that we are in the greatest country in the world. And to see what they did to him, I can't recommend his movie enough. Michael Flynn's movie about the documentary about him. I recommend it to understand why this happened. And they say this is a small amount of money compared to what he sued for. But there was some speculation that now he could go after individuals because basically the government saying what happened to you was unlawful and it was incorrect and we're going to fix that. We just write it that wrong. So that's true. What about the people who participated in it, knowingly? Maybe he goes after them individually. And there's a very long list. And if he does that, my friends, it becomes very unattractive to participate in this conspiracy

against other people in the future. Because all they do is think about themselves. How does it affect the power that I have? You know, it's like when you're a kid, the kid said, you know, pokes you in the shoulder. He goes, go steal that piece of gum. Why don't want to? I'll I'll stand next to you. Guess what? You're both guilty. Hey, maybe we'll get some ballots and we'll stuff the ballots. It'll make some money here. Oh, or maybe we'll go down and, you know, sign up some people for ballots to give them a dollar in California. Let's all go down and do that. We're all going to make some money. But guess what? When it becomes, it becomes, first of all, people get arrested, and they get in trouble, then things change. Then maybe the next time you're faced with such a dilemma, you go, well, I'm going to pass. Why? Did you see what just happened? To Michael Flynn, did you see what happens? What's changing here? That all the senators and the congressman and the Republican side are now aware of the abuse of power. And you think they're going to let

it go now? Here's the thing. Here's the good news about finding out that they were spying on senators and congressmen, the FBI. It has now happened to them. It's different when it happens to other people. They can have empathy for you. They can support you. They can, they can be your champions. But when it happens to them, which it just did, I would guarantee there's going to be some accountability there. Because they have the ability to do it. They can en masse. Remember what I said, spying on Susie Wiles, the chief of staff and her attorney? Illegally? You arrest the person that made that happen because you know it goes way up to the top. We are winning. And unfortunately, a lot of people had to sacrifice a lot of things to make that happen. They're safety. They're reputation. History, remember this time as the people who fought

for this country, despite all the attacks. This goes way beyond politics. This is a global problem. This is a power problem. Follow the money. Follow the people. And see where it lands. But God bless Michael Flynn. God bless his family. God bless his wife. I've been there. Their pain is, it's excruciating. People still think you're a traitor. Even though the facts show the opposite, that will never, that will never go away for him now. Shame on every single person that did this. But today, we got to win. God bless him.

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