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0:00In this political Colosseum, we slay the rising beast with the faithful sword of truth that transcends hypocrisy and censorship. It's time to unleash yourself from the tyrants of media propaganda on the America Out Loud Talk radio network. This is Unleashed the Political News Outer. Welcome to Unleashed the Political News Outer on America Out Loud. I'm Nate Kane. Folks, they want this conversation in separate boxes, immigration, crime, elections, 9-11 remembrance. Separate boxes so you never stack them and see the machine. Here is the machine. We import people. We cannot vet. We staff the agencies with people who will sell a green card.

1:01We put judges on the bench who treat an MS-13 executioner like a due process project. We put mayors in office who hand a 9-11 commemorative pen to a man who spent his career standing next to al-Qaeda. And when a state tries to take non-citizens off the voter rolls, a 9th Circuit panel tells the state to sit down. That is not incompetence. That is policy with a body count and a ballot attached. We start where it is supposed to shock you and somehow it doesn't anymore. ICE spent months hunting an MS-13 killer they call the witch. A Biden appointed judge in California just cut him loose. A story out of red state covered this David Antonio Aviles Perez 35 aka La Bruja, which

2:03means the witch. He's an MS-13 gang member. He was convicted in absentia in El Salvador 20 years for aggravated homicide that they gave him. Now, this all happened back this homicide, or I should say his conviction happened in July of 2014 in El Salvador. The victim, by the way, was forced to kneel, shot in the chest, the back and the face. Now he entered into the United States sometime in December, I think they said December 29, 2013. He lived here the whole time. Of course. He did. August, 2023, the city of Monterey in California. He's picked up on charges for swinging a machete at a homeless man at Laguna Grande Park. He hides the blade in a holiday in lot. He's convicted. DHS also cites drugs and petty theft.

3:08What in the hell is this guy doing in our country in the first place? But California's sanctuary rules sent him back to the street instead of to ice. That's the first release. Then ice grabs him in San Diego, March 26, 2026. So this year on the international murder warrant, five months, he spends at Otay Mesa pending removal. August 17th, a habeas position is made. In August 26, Judge Jensuk Ota, a Biden nominee with the Southern District of California, orders him released. Not because the murder has vanished, because ice held him for five months without an individualized danger slash flight finding on paper the way she wanted it. She did not vacate the Salvadorian conviction. She freed a wanted killer on process and she told ice they cannot just pick him up again

4:13on the same facts that they have to run her process first, including a bond hearing. Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen, of course, chimed in on this. That this is the second time that this man has been dumped on California streets by a radical activist judge who has put American lives at risk. A judge can read a murder file and still decide the paperwork is the emergency. You want to know how men like that get on file in this country to begin with? Sometimes they don't even need to sneak past the system. Sometimes they buy their way in, which brings me to the second story. Luckman Oalabi Ghani Yu, a former senior in an immigration services officer with UCS, USCIS and a Denny, a Denny, a Kim, some boy, arrested September 2nd, a complaint that

5:15was filed on August 31st conspiracy to receive illegal gratuities. Here's the alleged run. For 2019 through March, 2026, money was given for approvals on I-130s, I-485s, 751s and 400s. These are all forms that you have to fill for seeking asylum here in the country. Relatives, its green cards, its lifting conditions, its citizenship, US attorney Ryan Raybold charged them with selling immigration benefits for cash and its blatant abuse of public trust. FBI Dallas Sack Roth Rock said that it hits national security not just paperwork. They alleged that he skipped interviews, skipped supervisors, skipped jurisdiction, skipped background checks, skipped standard processing and pushed through people who were not eligible

6:16under federal law. Use of thousands of dollars payments lining up with his approvals. You can't make this stuff up, folks. Corrupt officials, selling status, activist judges protecting killers and in New York, the political class will look you in the eye in the week of September 11th and turn the anniversary into a prop for the same people who excused the attack. That's right, I'm talking about Mondani. Mayor Zoran Mondani signs an executive order recognizing 9-11 and then as if to pour salt on the wound, he then hands the ceremonial pen to Ramsey Kasim, his city council pick. Kasim's record is not a rumor by the way. This guy wrote an open ed or an op ed, I should say September 17th, 2001, six days after the

7:25towers fell, saying quote, this is not a battle of good versus evil. He also says the hijackers were quote, probably not driven by some intrinsic evil. And then he goes on to blame quote, our country's policies. And then this line, the legacy of 9-11 quote ought to be recounted primarily through the stories of Muslims, the world over who have largely paid the price of American power and prosperity. Give me a break. This guy makes me sick. He also did some work at Gitmo defending the likes of Ahmed Al Darbi, Al Qaeda, brother-in-law of Epenagon hijacker tied to the Limburg tanker bombing. And he also represents Muhammad, Mani Ahmed al-Khatani.

8:30The suspected 20th hijacker turned away at immigration. This guy Syrian born raised through Lebanon, Iraq, and other terror neighborhoods. Then American campuses and terror defense work. Maldonnie did not stumble into this hire. He elevated it. Then he put the 9-11 pen in that hand. This is the cultural end of the same policy. If you will not enforce the border, you will eventually be asked to apologize for defending it on the anniversary of the massacre. They will tell you that this is just symbolism. Symbolism is how they train you. And that last piece is not a ceremony. It is whether the people who were never supposed to be here get to stay on the list that decides who runs this country.

9:32I'm talking about a story that was released by the Federalist and it was released by the Federalist, but it was a case involving the RNC versus Meifamilia Vota. Secretaries of state from Kentucky, Mississippi, and Nebraska filed an amicus at the Supreme Court Friday brief. They say the 9th Circuit's reading of the National Voter Registration Act erased a constitutional line and would obliterate the state's power to set voter qualifications. Two questions that matter. Can a state require documentary proof of citizenship to register and can it remove confirmed non-citizens during the NVRA's 90-day quiet period before a federal election? In 2013, Arizona versus Inter Tribal Council, Scotus said Arizona could not bolt proof of citizenship onto the federal form.

10:39It did not strip states of proof on state forms, though. The 9th Circuit blew past that and treated Arizona's maintenance rules as illegal. As if the federal government has a damn thing that they can say about it. But this is the kind of crap that is going on in our country due to these activist judges. It's time for Congress to remove these judges and they absolutely can do that with impeachment. I am sick of it. We all should be sick of it. One system may kill our walks because of a judge didn't like the way that his case was handled. Status is sold out of a USCIS cubicle. A 9-11 pen goes to a hijackers lawyer. The Secretaries of State have to beg the Supreme Court for permission to take non-citizens off the list. Public officials did this, folks. Public officials that are still doing it. That's the board. When we come back, Caleb Collier,

11:41Marine, former Spokane Valley Councilman, host of church and state, church and the pews, church of the fight, why the people who still believe in both the Bible and the Constitution keep getting told to sit down. You're listening to Unleash the Political News Hour on America out loud. I'm Nate Kane. Stay with us. The smartest food on the planet doesn't come from a lab or in a package. It grows in a class jar. I'm Doug Evans, author of the National Best Seller, The Spout Book. Sprouts deliver up to 100 times the antioxidants of mature vegetables. They grow in just three to five days for under a dollar serving. Get your spouting kit at thespoutingcompany.com slash out loud. Use the code out loud for an exclusive offer. Gross smart. Are you struggling with thinning hair? Try roots from the wellness company. This doctor formulated non-oily hydrogel uses seven powerful peptides and key nutrients to nourish your scalp and support visibly thicker healthier hair. Visit

12:42twc.health-out loud. Use code out loud for 20% off your first order. That is twc.health-out loud. All never before has our American cultural, economic, spiritual and political fabric been more threat-married. But the America most of us have grown up with and loves under a relentless and pernicious siege from those carrying the banners of socialism, communism and Marxism. America out loud.News is the antidote to these poisons and isms. America out loud.News is that place to awaken your heart, soul and mind to the out loud truth. Welcome back to Unleash the Political News Hour on America out loud. I'm Nate Kane. The left has a rule for Christians. Pray quietly, vote once and never bring the Bible near a

13:43school board, a city council or a microphone. Then they write the laws, staff the agencies and lecture you about separation. Our next guests didn't play along. Caleb Collier served in the marine corps, worked as an EMT, then walked into city hall in Spokane Valley, Washington state, one of the most liberty, hostile laboratories in our country. And he tried to plant a second amendment city sanctuary flag. He fought the mandates he paid for it. A week later, he lost the seat, he has a radio show which he has been doing and it's called Church and State since 2017. The mission is not complicated, folks. Get people back in the pews and plugged into politics.

14:46Caleb, thank you for joining. Thank you, Nate. I appreciate the opportunity to be here. It's real pleasure and I'm looking forward to our conversation. Absolutely. Well, you know, this topic, I think, is an important one because there is this kind of attitude amongst a lot of Christians in America, which is that they leave their religion and their politics separated. And there's this view that, you know, the church that religion is for in church and, you know, outside of church, you shouldn't bring these things up and it shouldn't play into your politics. I think decades of that attitude is what has led our country down this path of destruction that we're currently facing today. I would absolutely agree with you. You know, the so-called separation of church and state has been completely weaponized against Christians. And it's not at all what Thomas Jefferson meant when he wrote to the Danbury Baptist.

15:51And going back to another founding father, John Adams, who famously said that our constitution was made for a moral and religious people and is wholly inadequate to any other, why did John Adams pick moral and religious? And the reason for that is because we have to strive to be moral and religious. Neither one of us wakes up in the morning being moral and religious. We have to pick up our cross as Jesus instructed and follow him. And so if you're a fan of this constitutional republic like myself and like you are Nate, then you have to strive to be moral and religious. And if there is cracks in our constitution, well, it's because we have to return back to that. I mean, truly, that's the only way we're going to make America great again is to strive to be moral and religious. I agree. I think that there is a problem though that we're facing in our country today, which is that this new generation and even going back further, even I would say my generation and

16:59probably my parents' generation, since really the 1950s and 60s, you got all these kids being educated in the public school completely devoid of any religion at all. And I think that has been probably the single greatest impact in kind of steering people away from God. And this understanding of the need for religion, in fact, you hear people say all the time and including myself, I used to say this myself. Oh, I'm not religious. I'm just spiritual. But so religion has gotten this kind of like been cast as like a dirty word. What do you say to people who would make that argument? The argument I found to be rather shallow, but let me address what you just talked about with public education. And then I will come back to that because we really need to address it as it is.

18:02It's public indoctrination and it's working. It's by design and to the audience who thinks, hey, I went to public school, I turned out all right. Perhaps so. But you really have to go back to the history of public education. You've got to go to John Dewey and Horace Mann who brought the Prussian system of education to the United States with the idea that they were going to build a machine. They were going to send children to this to make them cogs in the wheel so that they just followed orders, didn't ask questions. That was their pursuit. And I would say that they've achieved that. And so I tell my audience and I'll tell yours as well. If you're a Christian and your kids are in public school, get them out. Get them out right now. There are so many options out there. And certainly one of the silver linings with COVID was that a lot of parents got to see exactly what was being pushed into their children's minds. And so get them into a homeschool,

19:02get them into a homeschool, co-op, private school. There's a lot of different options out there. But you've got to get them out where you're going to lose your kids. And then return to your argument, or they argument that a lot of people say, you know, I'm not religious because religion has a bad name. If you're out there cleaning your spiritual, I'm just going to tell you just flat out because I don't mind being controversial. That's a pretty lame duck argument. And you sound rather ridiculous when you say it. Spiritual, what does that even mean? Are you into the world? Are you into the new age religions? Is that what you're claiming? And going back to the Bible, it tells us that we have to be part of the gathering. It says don't forsake the gathering. That means you have to get within the religion. You have to get within the church because it's going to edify you. It's going to shore you up so that you're not an island unto yourself. And so I tend to be rather dismissive of people who say they're spiritual. I would agree. And I think it is a reflection, I think,

20:12that we all innately know deep down in our heart of hearts. There's one of the best ways I like to kind of see it as is that there is a whole in our soul, if you will, that can only be filled by God. And every single human being on the face of the planet has that. And I think, you know, for people who are atheists, it takes just as much faith to be an atheist, probably more than it does to be a believer in Christ. At least those that are intellectually honest, I think, you know, can say maybe they're agnostic, maybe they don't know, or they're not sure. I'm okay with that. I get that. But I've got a real problem with people who, you know, the atheists, it seems they have an agenda to, you know, try and remove religion completely out of everybody's life, not just from their life. And it's interesting. We're absolutely right.

21:15Going back to, and so the people that say I'm spiritual, I think what it is is that they are not walking with God. And I think they want to be, they still feel that need for connection with God. And I think it's a it's a wishy, washy way of basically saying that they, they, they're spiritually minded, or they think about the afterlife, or they think about, you know, God, but they don't, they don't really have any clue, you know, who God is. They don't have that personal relationship. In the same respect, I think that there are a lot of people who are religious, but may also not have a personal relationship with Jesus. So it's, I don't think it's just about being religious. And I certainly not just about being spiritual, but I think that there is a need for some basic instruction, if you will. And, and to what you were saying about the constitution and the founding

22:18documents and our founding fathers and what they thought, it's interesting because public education, and they probably should have seen this coming, you know, but public education and originally nationwide, the, you know, the, the school had a sponsored ritual Bible reading, usually a few verses at the start of the day. And often without comment. And that practice was common in many public schools from the colonial period through the mid 20th century. And it wasn't until the US Supreme Court ended it as an official school exercise in Abington school district versus Shem, which was decided June 17 1963. That's when it seems that Satan made his way into the public school in a big way. Oh, once again, you're absolutely nailing it. You know, the reality is, is we are designed by our

23:24creator to worship. And if you reject him, then you are going to worship something else. And so there's a lot of people out there that worship themselves that will find another religion to go and worship. Or for a lot of these secularists and atheists, they're worshiping the state. So if they are being intellectually honest, as you pointed out, they will acknowledge that they are indeed worshiping something. And when you're talking about public school and how we were originally, I mean, you're right, we were reading the Bible, our children were reading the Bible. It was the one book that the vast majority of people had in their homes. And so why not use it as an educational tool? And the reality too is, you know, I'm not a Christian because some mysticism has brought me to that. I'm a Christian because it's the truth. And so to anyone who maybe even identifies as spiritual, if you're on this journey, I would encourage you to continue it. Because when you drink

24:28from the streams of truth, you're originally going to want to find the source. And I'll skip to the end for you. The source is Jesus Christ. I agree. I agree. That has been certainly been my experience. And that is something that I think that's key because what you're talking about is personal experience and personal testimony. And no matter what somebody believes or how they interpret, you know, a scripture that one thing that nobody can take away from you is your testimony. We once again, absolutely. And that's the beautiful thing about Christianity as well. We can have, different stories of how we got there. And your biggest failures become something of beauty, where you can point to, I did this. And I was a failure as a human being. I mean, honestly, we're still wretched sinners if we really want to get to the brass tax of things. But you can point

25:30to a transformation process through following the teachings of Jesus Christ that honestly, it is rather unique when you examine the rest of the world religions. Absolutely. No doubt about it. For one, and this is just something, you know, that on this note of the Bible and whatnot, one of the things fascinating to me about it is it doesn't just show a bunch of spiritual leaders who were perfect except for Christ. It shows very flawed human beings in their walk and their relationship with God. And you see people rising, you see people fall and you see mistakes made. And that level of honesty, I've always felt, is one thing that uniquely sets the Bible apart from other religious texts. But the the God that we serve in this concept of redemption and forgiveness of sin, I think, is

26:33unique to Christianity. And we're not earning our way into heaven. But I don't want to go too far down this road of doctrine. But I do want to talk about one other thing. And this really ties into what you're doing with your show, which is this false idea that some people have that politics and religion should never mix. I would argue that if you believe in the Bible, if you are a Christian that believes in the Bible, then you should actually, it should be the opposite. You should you should see to it that you live in every way with God at the center of your life. And that includes in your politics, not just in church. And that also includes in your home. And how you raise your kids. And this is I think the central, it's kind of core and central to the problem in America today because the church takes a back seat. And I think part of it is, I think is there are

27:38honest debate about how far we should take things about whether we, you know, you have some people that, you know, that seems like they worship Donald Trump. And I don't agree with that. But at the same time, I think it's absolutely appropriate to get engaged and to vote for and to lobby our representatives for righteousness and for righteous laws. Let's see you. Yeah, once again, I agree with you. You know, just just for the audience, it's sake. I'm a Christian libertarian. So I refer to myself as a Bibliitarian actually. And so I'm kind of used to losing politically, I guess you could say. But the state of the American churches is rather an interesting moment in American history. I actually separate the church into three camps. And number one, we have the woke church. And for the audience, if you are going to a church and they are cherry

28:41picking the Bible and they're saying, you know, some of some of Paul's teaching, for example, is really problematic. You know, he was a misogynist and a homophobic. And so we just, we have one of cut those parts of the Bible out of it. If you go to a church and there's a rainbow flag hanging outside of it, I would say that you are in a woke church and I would encourage you to leave. This, the second category I call the ostrich church. And that is the church that has their head buried in the sand. And certainly a lot of these secret sensitive churches, I would put in this camp. You know, a lot of their sermons are more of a TED talk with perhaps a little bit of scripture sprinkled into it. But they're designed to make you feel good. And they're about entertainment and show. And this actually, unfortunately, I would say is probably the largest church in America. The last one, you know, I would call the more of the remnant church. This is the one that is actually being biblically sound. They're following the teachings of Christ. And they're not

29:44afraid to get out there in the public square and encourage other people to follow, follow the Lord. And that can be an education. It can be in politics most certainly. But there is a hidden danger within that last category. And that is the rise of the new apostolic reformation. And see, I do believe that Christians should get engaged in politics. But there is a point where you go a little too far. And you've seen this rise in so-called Christian nationalism. And I actually came out of that camp. I previously would have described myself as a staunch Christian nationalist. I did the, you know, separating the two words. I'm a Christian and I love this country. So therefore, yes, I'm indeed a Christian nationalist. And I was really heavily involved in that movement. And perhaps because of that, I saw a lot of these dangers that started to show

30:44themselves, to present themselves to me. And that new apostolic reformation teaches that Christians have to take over what's called the Seven Mountain Mandate. They've identified seven spheres of influence to include politics, education, the family, media. There's a few others out there that I'm forgetting. But they teach that you have to take control of that. And once we do that, there'll be a grand transfer of wealth from the globalists or elitists or mafia, whatever you want to call them, to the Christians. And some of the more extreme ones teach that Jesus Christ can't even return until Christians take these seven mountains. So it's a very man-centric theology all about what we're going to do. Exactly. And I would agree. I've seen that where there's nothing wrong, by the way, with people getting involved and I would encourage people to get involved in all of these different mountains of influence. But the notion that, you know, it's something that we do

31:48that necessitates or brings back, you know, Christ is ridiculous. It's at that, this is a completely sovereign thing that God will decide when he's going to, you know, when Christ is going to return. And this notion that we, by our own efforts, can succeed, I think is a trap than anybody. And that's the danger really of getting involved in politics is that we may start putting our faith and say, our leaders instead of in God. So there's a responsibility that we have and we should be engaged, but at the same time, there's a balance between where we say, okay, we're going to do everything we can and then we're going to leave the rest in God's hands. And ultimately, it's God's decision as to whether our nation rises or falls. Yeah, we tend to make excuses when we believe that we're on the winning side. And certainly, the Republican Party has taken advantage of the so-called religious right movement for quite

32:49some time. And now we're electing people who believe in this new apostolic reformation belief system. And you're seeing it play out in politics and you're seeing people that are excusing, you know, you brought up Donald Trump some of his behaviors that, as Christians, we should say, no, that's wrong. Or in the case of like Israel, like, I don't celebrate death, you know. And so when I see like what's going on with the Palestinians, I don't applaud that. No, we foe well that Islam is my enemy. But it's kind of a nuance that you have to really explore within your faith. I just find it interesting that there's so many people interested in what's happening in another country when it's like they forget to even look at what's happening in our own. Indeed. So I think we definitely, you know, we're out of time and I'd love to have you on again and we can get into some of these other topics as well. But I will say that I want to give you an opportunity to share

33:55people. Where can people find you? Tell us about your show and where can people go and listen to it. Yeah, thank you for the opportunity. KirchNstate.media is my website. I'm on pretty much every single social media. You could find me. I'm on every podcasting app. We're also it's a television show, podcast radio show. So every podcast app we're on NRB TV and in a number of other different networks. But probably the best way is if you just go to church and state.media. Great. Well, thank you so much for coming on unleashed marine, formal councilman host of church and state. Find him at church and state.media.get in the pews. Get in the fight. Folks, we got to cut to commercial break, but we will be right back. During treatment, the structure of tap water gets messed up. Yes, we have to purify water, but what are we doing to fix the water structure so the body can actually absorb it? That is why we created our lab certified structured water devices. These devices restore water molecules back to

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36:06So a political movement could make a point. They'll sell you January 6 as original sin and skip January 24, 1975. Our final guest tonight does not skip it. Joe Conner's dad Frank was 33 when the FALN hit Francis Tadden. Years later, Joe buried his cousin Steve after 9-11. He took that to the Senate. He took it to Holder's confirmation. He took it to the Clinton pardon factory. And this week, he's drawing the line from Cuban-backed Marxists in the 70s to the DSA in Gihadi crowd that treats political violence like a brand. Joe, welcome back to the show. Thank you for joining us. Anytime Nate, thank you. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

37:09So you had this article that you had published. And I want to get into this because I think it's a very timely column called Red White and Blue versus Red and Green. Tell us about that article and what inspired you to write it. Well, you know, we're coming up on 9-11 and the 25th anniversary. And, you know, I was, as you mentioned, my cousin Steve was murdered that day. I was in the trade center that morning commuting through like I always did and saw the planes, so the size of the building to explode out my window to try to call Steve and I left to a voice male. And I ended up driving this car going through the train station that night. The same station my dad had parked in the generation before my dad and Steve's Godfather. My dad Frank Conner was murdered also downtown New York by terrorists of the FA-Land,

38:10the Puerto Rican Marxist group. So as we approach 9-11 again, you know, I'm so troubled by what I've seen the direction of this country take once again. And I see the democratic socialists of America. And, you know, in repeating many of the things that was going on in the 1970s with groups like the FA-Land or the weather-underground, the main 19th communists, you know, the likes of Luigi Magioli who appointed himself the Judge, Fury, and Executioner of the CEO Thompson was very similar to the FA-Land walking into Frost's Tavern where my dad was having lunch with clients and blowing it up, murdering for and in there. Communicate talking about reactionary corporate executives. It's the same concept and I can only imagine the same people who are

39:16graduating or excusing Magioni or celebrating him would also feel the same way about my father's murder. It's the same concept. My father was a banker. They didn't know him. He could be, he was considered exploiting and it was a the FA-Land had a communique where they talked about this as retaliation for something the government had done and they were hitting reactionary corporate executives on Wall Street. And so yeah, I see a lot of the same things going on now and I see a lot of the connections between the Lama-Soo killed cousin Steve and the communists, the marchists that are showing up in places like the DSA, you know, in the article I do talk about Hiker and and Charlie Kirk's assassination. You know, and so there's so many things now that are

40:24that are really connecting to those days and it's very troubling and I thought it was important to raise the issues. It shocks me because I remember 9-11 and I think every American who you know was alive and watching TV saw it. I was working in near Washington DC actually very close to the Pentagon at that time and I find it hard to believe that you have a Muslim mayor who's not just a run of the Mill Muslim but he's really a far left Marxist who has some very, very interesting ties to some very radical people and it shocks me that we are where we are today in that New York City just how short their memory is.

41:28Yeah, and you know, we've always said never forget but for me it's never forget and all that and we haven't even we haven't even gotten to never forget because right now we've forgotten and we have we have elected and I don't live in New York but I do work there and I'm back there three days a week I commute through the World Trade Center again like I did 25 years ago and when I see what's going on with this guy I don't trust him I believe that if he knew that there was a terrorist attack about to happen a Muslim terrorist attack he may not actually say anything and allow it to happen. I think he is no love for the average New Yorker. He is thrown in with these with with the Marxist side and with the with the his mom aside and he's is it shocking to think that 3,000 people that day lost their lives in the count was other sense and how many firemen and police first responders died and then we went to war and now we've

42:32elected someone in this city who who would support so much of what the the Islamists stood for and it's time you know for Americans to realize that this cannot stand you know our freedom of religion is not the freedom of Islamists I mean should be a law is not it's law it's not a religion and Islam is so much more it's a whole society and we cannot have a separate society. Well it's interesting because that is something that I was just talking to another guest earlier that this problem of Islam is that Islam is not the religion Islam is a political system that is completely incompatible with American values and with our constitution just like communism

43:34is completely incompatible and in fact still there are laws on the books that basically are being completely ignored but none of these people who are communist should even be allowed in government and they weren't and they were you know during the 1950s these people were being thrown out and being exposed and and and somehow our education system and other parts of our society from academia and we saw like the out lights of bill heirs which I mentioned the article and Bernadine Dorn, Ron Fiegelman and others Susan Rosenberg going into our education system and and polluting it and spiking it with with Marxism. It's our kids and young people are completely uneducated about what what this all means to us that it's going to take their rights away it's going to destroy any any ability of them to have a better life and they're using our system

44:43and our freedoms as as tools against us and this has been going on for you in 16 years. I was born in 1966 and it's probably around that time where it became when it really started happening heavily in this country and it's really it's really disgusting. Well a lot of people don't realize that you know many of these Islamic nations have you know flirted or full on adopted socialism. In fact during World War II let's not forget you had the whole North African campaign and many of them that were siding with the Nazis you know which a lot of people they again they they complete words you know fascist they call Nazis fascist but the reality is they were socialists. It was socialists. Yeah it's the Nazi socialist party. Yeah fascists were the the Italians.

45:44It's so but it is a it's an interesting history that goes back and I think a lot of it is that you have two ideologies that are very comfortable with authoritarianism. Yes. And you know of course authoritarianism does not work well in a republic. Although although so covid was a pretty rude awakening I think for a lot of Americans that that you know that thought that our country was free. We saw you know a machinery you know put together to essentially coerce people into obedience. Yeah and I think I think people like I and you and I were alarmed by the compliance that went on and how quickly we gave in to these things as a society and to me there was a test we failed miserably

46:45at the time but I think we have gotten better. I think so. But you know people are scoffing at this stuff now that that has come up and mocking it which is a good which is a good response but look it's out there and you know after the Trump second election or third election if you want to vote it's it's seem to be put in this place but now we're definitely seeing a resurgence of this insanity going on back in this country and we've been one of the one of the problems I think that's happened in America. Yeah one of the problems I think that's happened here and and this is very concerning to me. You had a lot of illegal immigration into this country from many of these parts of the world that subscribed to this ideology and that the problem is is that because it was very unregulated and how this occurred and and the massive amounts of people that came in

47:47during the Biden administration and I would say even during the Obama administration you had these people basically kind of congregating and you know taking over cities. I think of Dearborn Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. You're unfortunately this has led to an environment where people are not assimilating to American culture and values and many of these people have come here. You know on asylum claims that I would say many of them were false asylum claims but unless they were they were given green cards and allowed to stay. Yeah. And you know and and this has ultimately created an imbalance in these areas and allowed for this ideology to fester. You know in these communities. How do we deal with this? I mean what what is the answer to solving this?

48:49I mean it seems like Trump at least understands the problem and he's you know working on it at least getting rid of the the ones that are you know committing crimes thank God for that. Yeah. But it doesn't address the problem of people who have an ideology that is anti-American or counter to the United States that that are better here. No it doesn't and you know this has been a long time coming and you know the problem is when you allow this stuff to happen over long periods of time it's very hard to boot it out and it's not going to happen immediately. I think it has to be a sea change in the way that Americans view things it has to come from our education system. I think we're starting to see them in states like Florida where you know communism that kind of thing is being exposed and taught for exactly what it is. I think that has to happen with with islamism as well and it's not going to be an immediate thing. You know you'd love to be able to support everybody and you know if you can and we have and they broken the laws then they should absolutely be deported.

49:58But we also have to get these like the Supreme Court to make to look at the immigration again and or somehow get around the Supreme Court ruling about about birthright citizenship. You know we have to we have to support but you're you're right though I think that even if let's say they did all those things it does not solve the problem that we have many Americans you know whether their parents were born in another country with a ideology that is incompatible to America. The fact is we had a lot of youth today we do we do this ideology both the you know islamic ideology you know and when you get college students basically supporting homos and supporting the IRTC it is a it's a crazy world we're living in. It is I mean you have to it's kind of like a legal immigration you have to cut it off from the from starting and then you have to deal with you have in country already.

51:05I'm Irish American and I see a lot of Irish American especially years you know 20 years ago in the IRA was so gone it was the first generation people who lived who were born here who would support people like the IRA more than the Irish invigorated so it is a big problem because when you the people who were born here. Of the of the immigrants sometimes they're there they're so romanticized their home country that they a lot of them have never been to that they they will support things that make absolutely no sense because they don't know what they're talking about and that happened with the Irish and I think it's happened with the it is a lot of this they take the second generation is a problem we worse than the people born here but you have to stop the ones from getting here to begin let's start having the kids. And then we have then it becomes to say a matter of it as you can people we probably are stuck with a group people who hate this country and and they're going to be here we have to be more proactive in our in our elections and in in primary voting.

52:12I mean I saw some statistics in New York City especially you know 90% of the Muslim people vote for the Muslim candidate and something like 87% of the people actually go out and vote during primaries were and and and the mayor election so I mean you had a lot of me get elected as mayor of the York and you only got like 15% of the vote. Oh yeah. People who are right and that is a big problem. You talk about a big problem. A lot of people in America just don't vote they they don't vote. They don't vote. They don't end up they'll they'll show up at the at the general election the presidential election. The numbers aren't terrible for that because it was 60% or something like that but but when you have a mayor election in New York City and you know 20% of the people vote and the mayor the mayor wins you know 51% of the people vote. And the mayor the mayor wins you know 51% of that and he so he ends up with like 11% of the population voted for. I mean that's insane but that's what's going on and that's how you get people like like that outside either whatever the hell's name isn't in Michigan and all these people coming up like when Tommy is that because the American people just tuned out and they'll get you.

53:32And I know you're just great. I think you know it's a it's a big deal. We need people need to be understand that Obama said elections are consequences and we are getting hammered in those situations. Well there's a real problem with midterms and with primaries. That seems to be in my opinion I think that's where a lot of this starts. You're right people they will come to an election with the you know especially with the you know a president like Trump. But the problem is is that people don't show up for small down ballot races they don't learn about who these people are in the school boards that are informing that. Absolutely right in our local elections people don't show up and you know I look at it in my little town you know we for a while ahead. But the seven people on the on the board in town fall Democrat women everyone and you know it's it's it's crazy.

54:40But this is what happens because people busy people working and I you know I like music and nearly young set of best rust never sleeps. And that's what happens with these people they just talk about they just keep going and while everyone else is busy trying to live their lives or do their jobs. They're they're slowly working it there they're never ending it. And you know and and it's a philosophical thing too as a conservative you kind of let people in you know think what you got to do leave me alone. I know we talked about before you know you from West Virginia. Then I want to be bothered but the other side wants to be bothered and they want to bother you it's like going against a bunch of gladdest crab and so you know for me wish the million years ago because that's what they are. Well we are at a time but I think this has been a great discussion. Thank you. We definitely we got to find a solution to getting people more engaged in their civic duty.

55:43Yeah because ultimately this is a problem brought on by apathy totally. Well folks. Thank you again for listening this has been a great show. And I think there's a lot for us to learn tell us where Joe tell us where people can follow you where they can catch these articles these great articles that you're writing. The main website is we win America.com we win America.com and the slaves articles in town hall it's Joe Connor CEO and then or we have a movie shattered lives dot US shattered lives dot US. Joe Joseph F Connor on an excerpt what everyone call it at Joseph F Connor so you should be able to get me on one of those things so be great I'd love to hear from everyone. Absolutely well folks this is unleash the political news hour and remember to stay engaged talk to your circle of influence and encourage your neighbors your friends your family to get out there and vote when it matters.

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