NFL Prop Bets Wednesday & Thursday Night Football | Sports Gambling Podcast (Ep. 2679)

0:00This Wednesday and Thursday night football props edition of the sports game on podcast is brought to you by the free roll football Contest 3000 dollars up for grabs enter today at sports game on podcast.com slash free roll. Hey, this is Brandon Lang you're listening to SGP and One of those guys will get penetration It's a baby fucking real man Oh Welcome everyone to the sports gambling podcast I'm Sean stacking the money green with my partner and picks Ryan real money

1:03Kramer what's happening Kramer Gonna need the chat to help us out here. I assume everyone can hear us. I think we're live It's a fair some we may have a problem with one of our monitors, but yeah, it's officially we're back We are so freaking back We got tons of action. We will be doing our NFL picks show of course tonight week one NFL picks I had a guy reach out going hey man. Don't mean to bother you Who do you like in this Seattle game? I didn't see the picks episode go out. Who do you like for tonight's game? And I go the game is tomorrow night. He goes oh man. I felt for this last I can't do this with people. I can't do this with they know they obviously don't listen to the fucking show. Okay, fuck these people Joining us in studio to talk some Wednesday and Thursday props for the prime time games We're also going to be doing a prop show for the whole NFL week one slate You know you love them the Laddy daddy from the bottom line bombs podcast mr. C. J. Sullivan. What's happened to C. J?

2:09Sorry, we had a lot of lot going on before the show Some grandma's hey, it's week one fast too. It's week one. We're just still going to go through the walkthroughs here But this is it. I mean it's Wednesday is a bit much. Why is Whatever we have we have a routine Thursday night. Why why did the commissioner? No, you're coming around on the show. I'm just saying make this your Australia game. Here's why there's no reason why this should the Australia game should be Wednesday, right? Well, everyone keeps saying no, no, no, they want the Super Bowl champs to play first cares. That's what but then I I would beg to ask you why can't the australian? Why can't it be Thursday and Friday? All right, what is stopping us from this being Thursday Friday? Yes, there you even with that formula even with the Australian game on a Friday much like the Brazil game was on a Friday Low game was a Friday both there was five there's been zero Explanation. Yeah, you're right spinning it on a face because they're gonna add another one on Friday when they get a Japan Oh, that's the Japan game. I am excited for

3:12Japan football that'll be awesome. They just opened it up to slot Was a slot real quick here just just just before we get news and notes section here for Yeah, I wasn't exactly laughed off the set or in the studio, but I was scoffed that when I suggested that Durian Kramer that Darius Slate and Mike cut by the New York Joe a couple weeks ago and I saw today I said giant legend Darius Slate. Oh, I love you're taking my words out of context What I said was I would be very surprised because every time Darius Slate and has been put to the test he's showed up now what if you listen to me more recently I'm not saying he deserved to get cut. No, no, but what I cut though if you listen to me more recently It seemed very clear that it was it was unclear which one of those guys was gonna play and we even talked about him being a healthy scratch potentially and so That lines up with okay. I mean well good news from like neighbors. I mean He's probably a hundred percent ready to go take your words and shove him up your ass

4:15What that was not sincere? That was not sincere I was skeptical hate and injury I was skeptical that he was gonna be a hundred percent But if the fact that they're getting rid of Darius Slate the audience can hear you're not a good sign for It's a great sign, but you don't need to say it God damn word about it Other than I'm sorry. I'm sorry I said I was wrong. I was reporting what I was beyond wrong beyond wrong You weren't reporting shit. You were doing your normal say my opinion and hopefully I'm not fucking wrong and you were very fucking wrong Exactly what I exactly what I want to brother Slate and I just wanted to get I just wanted to tee up this show And and parlay in the already the issues with the raccoons coming in here and get the and get the parents fighting because it's week one And already we're already doing divisional games Which is horrible, but that means we got to get the blood going early You got to get fired up and this is what we do Speaking of fire up before you hit that sound I want I just let's take a quick moment of silence because I want to try to refresh this before we

5:20Continue with the show, but no one say anything for for a whole for five seconds, okay, then we'll come back to phrase that pays Praying that it works Of the podcast audience is still gonna hear us right now. Let's see can we get back on the screen now? Can we get back on the screen now are we back on the screen? I believe we are we are I see us I believe we're back on the screen. Yeah, I see We're back and so is the phrase that pays If you're watching this live over on youtube.com still hours to get your entry in I see a lot of Johnny come lately Getting it in right before the deadline still times for to give my podcast a calm Sush praise We will announce the winner on tonight show and a dollar NFL future Just again if you have mailed something and you're worried about the not getting here I hope you filled out the digital form. I will say I'm still getting surviving CJ videos Yeah, I already chose the winner, but yeah, people

6:22I get it it happens and of course the free roll football contest go to sports game on podcast.com Sush free roll to enter our free NFL pick them challenge very easy to get in $3,000 winner take off four thousand if you're a patreon member picking every NFL game against the spread The spreads will be entered in there When we go live with our pick show each week you're gonna be picking the spreads the same as we are Sports game of podcast calm Sush free rolls sports game of podcast calm Sush free roll to get it. Let's go You shouldn't say it's easy to get in you're gonna make a lot of our audience feel dumb Just based on the emails. I'm in the DM's I've got I I think we we have we have folks that operate both above and below the Mendoza line of IQ whatever that is Yeah, I assume there's a Mendoza like character in the IQ game. I'd say it's easy if you want it to be easy Like if you if you if you apply yourself. It's very easy the tax are not difficult, but it doesn't tell doing something

7:23You're right. You know what? I mean people are lazy. You got to want it right. You do got a lot of got to want it You enter three things into a form right and yet still people are emailing me with I don't think I did it right Okay, I say it because I was one of them when I heard it open to open to us. I hope you go on. I'm not doing these three That is that is a that is a CJ move he had it's not the first time CJ is scoffed That's some internal fun. Was it a review for crank out? Absolutely not shout out to Benny mucks easy to get in slot has a slot Great. Thanks for asking Kramer's fired up CJ. I'm ready to go. Yeah, Kramer's ready to go. We got picks. We got props Let's start it off. How do you want to start? Well, I think we go by game We're going to give out two props for each game first touchdowns then a ladder then a D Gen parlay. Okay, or a D Gen play. Yeah First up Wednesday first. Yes, first up. We got the Patriots at the Seahawks the Super Bowl rematch

8:26Interesting game to break down But interesting matchups because I feel like a lot of my Handicaping kind of applies to what we saw in this last game. It's hard to get all regression would indicate that you're not gonna see Yeah, it's hard to look past the game that just happened. I'm gonna go back to the Hunter Henry Well, I know he only had 31 receiving yards in the Super Bowl, but I think he's gonna be a big part of this passing game This game because well once the idle might be doing with some secondary issues. No reek woolen Even Mara or have every pronounce the safety's name. He's a little banged up. Do you think he goes? Yeah, I was gonna say just based on The injury report guys are gonna care about Emman Horton both were on the practice field yesterday Monday, so Monday it would have been there Friday Effectively, so you get a practice in on Friday that usually is promising, right? Yeah, I guess just in general to me

9:28It's this Patriots team one. I'm skeptical. They fixed the offensive line. I think they're gonna have trouble passing the ball A little bit at least to the receivers, but Hunter Henry I think is going to have a good game one because Look at the there's a ton of new pass catchers. I mean just look up the Patriots box score of who their leading receivers were in that In that Super Bowl and it's also We're generally getting the shit pushed in as well. So that often skews a box score. Yeah So you have guys like Mac Collins for for 78 a lot of that was in Carvedge time pop Douglas who is still out there five for 45 By the way quick pause is still the guy who gets the most separation on the team. Yeah, he's interesting Reminds Ray was five for 40 Trevor on Henderson he had 26 yards receiving he's gone Stefan digs three for 37 he's gone and then You know, Kishan Bhutay he had 21 yards he's gone just to be clear Henderson's not gone

10:29Oh, he's not playing likely to do they roll him out. I Did he did I don't know if he traveled with the team and in fairness I guess technically twos the today's Tuesday's practice is the Friday practice for the Sunday games, but discouraging injury report is that he's at DMPs all we so yeah, so to me It's just and you bring in AJ Brown sure that's fun and you bring in Romo dobs that's also fun, but I just think he has so much history with Hunter Henry He's gonna be his guy attacking them. So 33 and a half receiving yards feels doable for the Pat's So give me the over on Hunter Henry receiving yards. Kramer. What's your first prop? Well, I guess I'll just I what I was I think I said this to either you or CJ before the show that I'm T.D. Heavy this week and some of that is just the T.D. Price has been out for a while And so I've just been staring at them And I'll just stick on the Hunter Henry angle. There's no reason for his anytime touchdown to be three to one There's 0% and now you might be right about him being you know higher up on the pecking order

11:31In the receiving game in general. I know in the red zone. He's number two Maybe number one Based on what Drake may likes. I know AJ Brown's out there first game. I got to see it I'd almost rather favor the other guys that aren't him. Yeah, and so yeah I'm just anytime touchdown Hunter Henry's three to one Keeping it simple. I don't mind that at all CJ what do you do? What's your first prop? Seattle at or Seattle at home against the Patsy Seattle at home First new England I looked all over for it. I was thinking that I'm glad I don't want to let it this but I did find this number on underdog. I said I'm gonna rushing attempts. Oh This is always a fun angle always a fun angle because you get the kneel down the kneel down before half Maybe a cubie sneak in there. That's right. Maybe a random dartled scramble. Yeah, it's a sharp number. It's a two and a half on underdog Which seems high at first. Well, you got kneel down. Yeah, he got kneel down Now he had 35 rushing attempts during the regular season last year 19 of them Weren't the final five games where you had three four three three six

12:35And the three playoff get two real playoff games. He had five. I don't count that San Francisco blowout Even a competition Including in Super Bowl against his New England Patriots. So I believe he will clear the two and a half rushing attempts here He has before the final Like six games that were a sporadic. He he cleared us every single game until The last seven games. So he's pretty in my book. He's seven for those last seven over his two Freshing attempts. I don't know. I like it. It's like seven of eight if you want to toss in that room that nine is playoff game I like the idea of CJ having his own stat book. Yeah, but It's like the big 10 with their clock. Yeah, CJ's got his own clock. You had five for 57 I actually had yeah, I actually had six for 80 100 percent but but Darrell did I mean obviously he was much more aggressive towards the end of the season and his game did I mean, he needed to for a little bit obviously with the line, but like I think Some clicked with him and he you know he didn't his yards in pile up I don't think he had more than 14 at all or even like

13:37Twelve and any of those games even one we have like six attempts It's a good thing to get 18 yards But that but he is picking up the third and shorts whatever and he of course you can always get the meal down I like over two and a half rushing attempts Okay, um, yeah, no, I'm with you especially if you like to see hawks There's a lot of ways that gets home. So good call by you CJ Someone say this is a personal prop, but uh, this is an analytic. This is a data prop. Yeah Brian I assume you know that Seattle was the number one a DVO a defense against number one receivers last year You could probably apply a lot of filters. Um Seattle is number one very good and I think Everyone's talking about a j brown. He's coming in with a chip on the shoulder. What about dev and witherspoon who you know You look at like who's the number one receiver? Meanwhile, he uh, sorry number one cornerback meanwhile he got paid and then his agent went and then made Christian Gonzalez the number one paid cornerback. I think dev and witherspoon at home

14:41He is gonna want to lock down a j brown. I think a j brown is gonna get a heavy dose of dev and witherspoon And yeah, they might try and go out of their way to feed a j brown But cj we've seen that go awry towards the end of his time with the filled out for eagles now quote Maybe he's trying harder, but the Seattle defense is pretty good especially at home Under four and a half receptions for a j brown plus one forty two. Wow. I'm paying to see it show shoving in my face a j Give me get I don't think he gets the five catch it. Maybe he gets one deep ball, but um I i believe I believe in the Seattle defense. I believe in witherspoon as a lockdown corner and I think I think I think I think witherspoon's gonna be on him a bunch. So uh, yeah, give me a j brown under four and a half receptions at a juicy plus one forty two I was trying to see if they have had a match up in the past it does not look like Doesn't look like witherspoon has played the eagles over the last couple of years. So no uh, no science to look at

15:42He wasn't out there in that game couple years ago I don't see a match up where Seattle was playing filly when he was playing. Okay. No, maybe he was hurt All right, but yeah, I like witherspoon. I like this defense. I think again I think they're gonna be able to get the ball to the tight end, but I think the stuff that a j brown likes to run Now maybe he gets this with some easy slants But I think the stuff you need to get the the passes a j brown likes you need time in the pocket and I'm skeptical of This Pat's offensive line being completely fixed. I know everyone's trying to explain the idea of like oh We'll camel the great cambell azure bear a tucker. They're a hundred percent. They're totally healthy Yeah, well now Seattle's at home and you have Seattle at home with that home crowd That is not that makes it difficult for an offensive line So I like to see out on front seven to get pressure I think I think he's gonna be checking it down a hundred Henry and I think a j brown's gonna struggle to get five catches So uh very predictable angle from you. Congratulations

16:47All right, but I like it. This is good. Yeah, it's you get narrative fade. Oh, too. What's the plus money number on that plus 142 Yeah, it's great. It's great. Come on. Lock it up Cramer prop number two. We brought up the offensive line. I did. Do we think anything's gotten better Do we remember will Campbell tell and supposedly Mike McDonald He pointed at that they had like a Because of will Campbell's supposed an injury that they had a tell of whether or not It was a runner pass based off will Campbell which I don't know why they would announce that But I guess maybe you didn't realize they were gonna be playing them the next game. What do you mean? Why wouldn't you announce that? This is excellent, right? What is what does what does man name and due to Teddy key KGB and rounder? Yeah He doesn't he doesn't sit there on on the telly. Let's them know gets in his head makes it even worse Well, he had a clock here. He had 24 hour clock was he uh he had to get that thing done by the morning That also is true in the movie But yeah, I mean, I do think there's an element of if you are an offensive lineman

17:47And I I forget who I was reading an interview with one of the coaches But the talking about tells in general. Yeah, and Yeah, I think I think if you have a tell it's probably a deeper issue and when an opponent is calling that out Yeah, talk about mind fucking you. I think they're in their head because think about it I mean, see, I know your poker player. Yeah, second you think someone has a beat on you You're you're not acting natural anymore. That's true. You're trying to reverse tells and what not anyway And that becomes even more obvious. I say all of that to say we all remember what happened in the Super Bowl last year Is this a Drake May Russian yards because I also like that Sac prop baby. Oh, let's go. Am I wrong to expect so you remember we had some money on some some sack action And you remember Devon with withers went out of sack in that game, but Byron Murphy dominated now There's a little concern to me that it you know we might see a little variance head over to Leonard Williams's way

18:48But Byron Murphy dominated that game now I don't see I'd like a lice of error Tucker. There you go That's only half of the interior and I don't I don't buy at all that the offensive line's gonna be any better. I think you get you brought in Will Campbell is a guy that I need to be shown and that he's gonna be I get it He's an effort and energy guy. It's easy to love those kind of guys in the meeting room and in the offseason But when you just get your ass kicked because you can't do it now I thought about going back to Derek Hall who had two sacks in the Super Bowl if you remember But uh, um because he has a nice price as well, but Byron Murphy's quarter sack prop So he just needs a half sack as an interior guy. That's great because Sometimes you in it's a combo between you and the edge up his half sack prop So again, he only needs to get a half a sack plus two ten It's over a quarter sack Byron Murphy the second we used to call those juniors Plus two ten Wow. I like it. Yeah, I think I'd still

19:50I The idea that a Patriots offensive line is now gonna go on the road where they struggled on a neutral and Be able to protect against the Seattle front. I'm very skeptical and I think when your tackles Are problem and I know the Patriots Aren't coming into this game thinking we can leave them on island And the strength of Seattle is actually in the interior It creates a weird problem where how do you solve for the fact that you have these guys on the edge That are going to be a problem regardless because they're speedy guys We're gonna go around the corner and what are you doing the interior? I think they're gonna have similar problems and our good buddy salpal who reported live from the Eagles Patriots joint practice highlighted that the Patsal line was struggling with the Eagles strong defensive line. So I think that is one of the few things You can take away like Lich in earnest from training camps is when an offensive line is getting their ass kicked in a joint practice That's real. Yeah, that's real. Let's go see you J second prop for Patriots see hawks cream

20:54I do love that prop there. I'm not surprised though as an ableist Tacking a short armed offensive lineman of will Campbell Even though there's been good reports out of him this camp. I'm not buying them either But you do hate short armed lineman and also football players you are I'm a youth fan now, but if a Kaleu Loewu is like I would have loved to see them get Yeah, it just seems like they just have softness. There's too much softness on their offensive one No dogs, right? Well Campbell was supposed to be a dog. I watched the Super Bowl He did he did say he was willing to die first quarterback like Francis Maui. No If you put Francis Maui know and will Campbell in a cage deathmatch. Yeah I dare you to bet on will Campbell. That's just not a nexty rexie is Talking about a man from the islands with the ocean in his squad. Hey, I have a I have one of my You know, we have these gambling rules one of my life rules is don't fuck with some moments. So Yes, assuming his spinal cord is completely fused. I watched I would not want to mess with him

21:57I watched a Samoan dude I played or he had Samoan blood in him Get take a 40 To the back of the dome drop down to one knee and get back up again and start to beat the shit It was one of these feats where it was like that's some that's a like an Avengers movie thing Oh, we do have his C.J. Second prop, but Kramer We also got a awesome sound drop you found. Oh, yes, and this was from the Hold on. I know and because we refresh I gotta add up a get keep talking Notre Dame Wisconsin game, which was Oh, you guys talk about some college today. This is just be fun. I can't wait to be tuned in for this All of a sudden drop that's coming in here Socks of college football. Well, it's C.J. related. So we had a lot. Oh, yeah I caught I caught this game and I will I'll be completely honest I did there was a tiny bit of editing here, but most of it was unedited C.J. sticks it in pulls it out And flattic infinities. Oh, god

22:59So what flattic ends your buddy? We'll hold one more time one more time Sticks it in pulls it out And flattic infinities Jason Garrett is I'm a courteous lover Jason Garrett that I know you first I mean Jason Garrett. What are we doing? What are we doing? How are we how is he on the call? He's doing me on this call year I have a feeling that C.J. Car Hyesman can't Has been candidate. He's gonna have a lot of C.J. I like jingers are powerful You're saying we need more Jason Garrett. He's so terrible. I'd rather have DUI'd up any like marches Give me more Sanchez I know at least I mean Who watches Jason Garrett believes he has intel on what's going on in the five I was enjoying Sanchez as a broadcaster Yeah, he was good. I don't even sell it. Yeah, I'd like an HR meeting or someone coming if he's just uh Yeah, it's just very business. Well, you also if you watched any of his late career coaching or mid-career coaching you'd wonder what the fuck like what do see anyone see in this guy?

24:04Did you see the tic-toc him and Mike Tom will force to do there? Yeah I'm that is Shout out to Mike Tom one. You can say notice stuff right like Well, Mike Tom one clearly is enjoying the paycheck the other funny thing they did This was for the Hall of Fame game where they did the ice bucket challenge, but they clearly Didn't pour it on their heads not to mess up their hair like You can't do the ice bucket challenge and not get your hair wet Yeah, now Maria Taylor Okay, fine. I'll give you a pass. You're uh You're a woman fine, but Jason Garrett get your hair wet. What the hell are we doing? Yeah Like completely agree with that take that's true. All right cj the c generates are dying. What is your second prop here? All right, we pull this one in Stick it out whatever uh Jason Garrett says um Obviously, Trayvon Henderson not looking like he's gonna play uh this game. He has not practiced yet. I'd say that's fair No, invrabile he's in scott throw him out there so people are throwing to um

25:06The only backup they have is quirk Cory Kiner Is the backup they want as one of them? It's not knowing numbers on him Which I don't care apparently he's not a good pass blocker either. I did a little deep dive I don't think we're mind just even gets off the field during this game. Yeah, no, we're able He's gonna try running into the ground possible Which means obviously his number his rushing attempts and yards went up huge after this Trayvon Henderson news is going around the receipt the receptions numbers has not moved a lot And my dr. Steven's Ken catch the ball out the backfield You just broke down the pass rush with a short armed offensive lineman how quickly it is I see a lot of Emergency dump dump offs to Ramondra who's also blocker you can get plus money at over three and a half receptions for him He's a two and a half is pretty heavily juiced. I'll go right to three and a half at plus one oh seven Ramondra Stevenson over three and a receptions plus one oh seven Yeah, he had he had five in the Super Bowl And again if you think the Seattle defensive line is going to be able to pressure Drake May How do you offset that there's the check down? There's the design stuff. That's when you're splitting carries

26:08Yeah, that's when Ramondra was a part of the offense as well stay tuned Later in the show. Oh, potential ladder Okay, the Super Bowl involved eight targets and eight catches to the running CJ's on to something very keen to see that we might have a full full workload for I agree I would and I also say like it does seem like Henderson is 100% out Yeah, I had him out in my models Kramer okay Don't I I was just highly and I don't think he's gonna play there laughing at multiple models. Yeah, not just one No, there's multiple there's a gut. There's the data There's my math my The Rose throws games completely out. Yeah, I have exclusive access to the CJ snap book API Kramer what are we doing for the first touchdown in this game? All right, so most of the card is fairly easy to negotiate You're gonna put hunter Henry in there because you can still get him at 21, which is absurd. Yep

27:12Then you're also gonna play AJ Barner again I'm gonna go a little out of order here AJ Barner another obvious play didn't bring him up as one of my favorite props Will also be on his anytime which you can still get it plus to 75 But AJ Barner's first touchdown is 14 to one now for the secondary ones Seattle it was easy. I was always gonna take a stab on Elijah Royo called him out on the team preview I think Horton limited practice. I'm Cooper Cups seems like he's become like a dad figure on the team. He's doing all the interviews He's talking about you'd never heard of Pete from the sky and his entire career Last couple years. He's clearly like is it a retirement path to media? There's something going on where they're jamming him in front of the microphone I don't think he's gonna be big a big big part of the offense. I think it's gonna be JSN AJ Barner are running back and you know, maybe Shaheed Kind of intriguing to me. He's talking about how Shaheed's gonna have a bigger role this year and I agree with you Although Cooper Cups was productive in the Super Bowl

28:12Yeah, but price-wise cup is 13 to one. Yeah, Barner 14 to one as I said we're on him. Shaheed 16 to one and Which Horton and a Royo were 30 to one and to me when you don't really know where that you know third passing options coming from I'm gonna dig from one of these guys and we just there's too much offseason hype in my filter For me to not want to take a stab at Elijah Royo because much like my giants. I do think We could end up seeing a world where the tight ends are truly the numbers to target and Elijah Royo is gonna be lined up out wide A decent amount so a Royo 30 to one for the C-hawks Barner 14 to one to go with Hunter Henry 20 to one and then I was initially gonna play Henderson because his price was absurd at 20 to one now That was injury related so we got to get him off the board Drake May is 20 to one Romeo dobs is 17 to one. This is the decision on making here One because I love your fate of AJ Brown I do think the matchup indicates maybe we look to a secondary guy, but Drake may shouldn't be 21 so I got to play him

29:19Drake May is one of these quarterbacks where the second he gets up over 12 14 to one. I think you just have to Look you have to play it We don't have I don't have trust that the offensive line is fixed And so my sack prop kind of correlates to Drake May running I think one of you guys brought up the idea of playing his rushing prop So if I'm liking the rushing prop I like the idea that he's gonna get pressured you have to play him at 20 to one. Yeah, and what I think whether it's bad good or bad You know Rashid she or I'm sorry Ramandrey being now down to six to one on the first touchdown market has also You know helping give us decent prices across the board for the Patriots. Yeah I'm AJ Barner and a royal for Seattle and then hunter Henry and Drake May I consider anyone other than a royal Uh considered Seattle defense. That's kind of interesting double defensive whack for this game is possible Yeah, but like they like the royal so much last year He was close to having like some breakout games as a rookie him making a year to jump and being more involved in the offense

30:24I can see that She he's someone I looked at but I don't know the the hype's a little A little scary for me pop Douglas. I saw some people in the chat Like pop Douglas. I understand the case for that. I have worry a little bit. He's not gonna be on the field a ton I think like he might be the odd man out. They're gonna have a tight end on the field pretty much all the time So you're not talking about I don't think they're gonna have a ton of True three wide receiver stuff. Mac Collins is always interesting Well think about it. Which three receivers are out there when you have three receivers Gotta be him Kyle Williams. I thought they were gonna you think pop One if you want to get crazy. I mean they're talking about cutting him. Yeah Kyle Williams There are ability to draft a receiver is and if if they get cute Patriots Reggie Gilliam I've chased him before in the first touchdown market, but I feel good with where we're at South Bayer we've talked about him, but I don't know I like this sweet spot of the

31:2520 to 30 to one with a barner being the chalk at 14 to one. So that's what I'm I'm coastsigning your plays Ryan You know you know the market. Yeah, and lastly, I'll throw in the if you are to me if you're gonna get cute with the Patriots You're getting cute with trying to figure out who their secondary tight ends gonna be Um rarid in is 55 to one Uh, arc in is a hundred to one. So you have some some long price opportunity there. Yeah Same with Seattle kind of if it's not a rollo is it's you know is sour I like to split through let I just go to I like to play two numbers you guys do the quad Which is fine, you know you did a quarter you know do happy and split it one one one each there Only chopping your you know you know one interesting good one solo each there I love your Horton 30 to one Horton. I think That Brad saying I love And I love Horton 31 he is a great camp. He's definitely the most talented number two receiver limited practice on monday. So it does seem

32:28But but in a positive way like he's coming back. It's like the optimism seem He's a guy I think they want on veil week one. There's a lot of unveilers and you mentioned them earlier there I gave it out on your Friday show as a touchdown step ladder Romeo dobs I'm in love with in this game as far as touchdown is anytime is three to one He's 18 to one. I'm looking at first touchdown He is a TD guy. He is a TD guy specializes in the red zone there and Drake mate like it's kind of a specializer How may pass the ball needs in these tough catches that dobs to show up and you were just talking about Obviously fading a j brown with with a spoon That's second corner back though position out there in Seattle and obviously with with nicking and wobbling out No, you got that was But that second corner is in trouble. I mean in the nickel obviously. We have a lot of depth problems there I mean, you know just bringing in tarry and Arnold and They were traven digs for crying. I can help you with it though. This this isn't easy. It's E. Yeah, man. E man worry

33:29Like your worry. E man worry. Yeah, what's that mean in? I know I did but if you remember if you remember him coming out all time people were shitting on him as like being a bad Like a bat like he lost his job at South Carolina. He wasn't showing good effort Turned out to be a second round pit. Yeah, they had him edge rushing for crying out like he's doing everything last year He's unbelievable. He is an absolute freak So dobs 18 to one. I'll take him in Horton of 30 to one Yeah, dobs. I'm glad you're on dobs so someone can celebrate if that hits because I do think there's a bit of a vacuum Like I think as good as the secondary is yes That certainly we have to see it and like I said with those workouts with Arnold and digs like Seattle's telling you They have a problem there. You don't to listen to anyone else Yeah, well the Arnold thing That is that's weird for a very ugly defense to go out and you know, yeah scoop from the bottom of the trench long term No, they're thinking long term they say they don't all they listen. It's a character did not fit the crime They asked a lot of questions to your Nick Sabons and anyone who was not tied up in a motel room

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35:36Create a story that you're painting yourself into now. It's don't record the story Don't actually show them what happened in document Don't put it in writing right don't put it in writing don't say anything when I started my career There was a lot of and got into management. There was a lot around. Okay. Well, this is something you handle You handle with a face-to-face conversation. Yeah You don't want anything to be able to come back on you and so yeah young people are just like fuck it Like like let me have this like look at this sick layout from my my crimes Like grand theft auto in real life I mean think about all those kick streamers what basically what they're doing I don't understand who watches this shit. It's insane like I'm watching this this clip of rampages You know bodyguard beating the shit out of some other streamer. It's like what is the point here? I don't understand this content Hey, we'll talk about the uh When's our the Thursday Australia game before we do

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38:45Dot com promo code s gp n Kramer We're here talking about the Game versus 49ers versus the Rams in Australia. Do we have to ladder for Seattle? Well, I I was I I have only one ladder for both games I thought it was a ladder each that's fine. Let's move on Well, we get a ladder did know that I was gonna say we'll empty the clip exactly. I apologize Mr. Miss interpreters no, we got we got some ladders. I get I get a little ladder side obviously You know I've had a roll off season without giving out some ladders and laddy daddies and uh, you know It is also tough with the early season games. All right, you have that super bowl Um almost need to like oh, I like this This and then all of a sudden it's like well, wait a second Ryan you shouldn't have Five anytime touchdowns in the same game that could be dangerous. We got to scale this back a little bit Well, we should talk about before we get into a chan. I don't I don't know if I'm sure we'll he'll be on part of the card

39:48But we should at least acknowledge the the Jake Tongue Tongue Tongue Situation. Yeah, I mean are you gonna use it as one of your props if so I have it in my D gen play. Okay, a lot of the Tongue is stuff like his regular stuff I saw underdog and we're gonna put together underdog entry as well. He's uh his targets are listed two and a half I'll actually just start right here because it it goes into Tongue is George Kittle under 37 and a half receiving yards I'm very skeptical of I mean, it sounds like they're pushing George Kittle to play in spite of the fact that he blew out as a kill ease in The playoff game in January and now you travel down to Australia where you don't have your normal Access to your medical treatment. Whatever. You're dealing with that long flight You're dealing with adjusting to the time zone All the B reporters for the 49ers are saying they think he's gonna play but they're gonna limit his productivity so And the the other thing is Tongue is is good Tongue is played really well. So

40:50We gave out the Tongue is anytime Over on our recent show is nine to one when we gave it out. It's down to plus 650 It was a classic C.J. We're sitting at Saginaw's yeah, and the price was just that like this is not right We had I mean both of us were kind of like I swear we've looked this up and it was not 9 to 1. He was weird out all great all great deli numbers are seen in second. That's true It's deli Lavinum then we just poke our eye into the two touchdown and it's 175 And so that there has been some adjusted. Yeah, so we're being said though. I was at plus 650. I still like Tongue I was chatting with what is he now two touchdowns? I see was 39 to one. I smurched god Jake Pacoin. Yeah I was having a quick conversation with him last night or yesterday and he was able to get down on the Tonjus at plus 850 whatever shop he was using so I think there's still I think you still want to shop it around I'm seeing I tongue is on the blue book is a hundred to one hundred. I was gonna say I still see a hundred

41:51One seems like the best price on the tongue is for two and then what's the anytime then is that still plus 650 last I said okay, so reasonable price you still I'm still saying you should 100 Bet that don't I mean last year the ramp scored three touchdowns the tight end Or sorry the the nine or scored three touchdowns to the tight end over the two games in the regular season The game without kiddo Tonjus scored a touchdown in that game had a big game The game that kiddo was healthy he had a big game. Yeah, even Luke Ferrell scored a touchdown in that one So 100% Co-sign the the Tonjus anytime. Yeah, so any of the Tongue of stuff add that to your kitty if you didn't already But for here I will add in the George Kittle under 37 and for semen here It's I'm skeptical. He's gonna be heavily involved. It just The guys coming off in a kill ease like maybe he's out there for a little bit But hey if kiddle has a massive game and also to like I think there's a world where okay Maybe kiddo gets some more but Tongue is they still play him a decent amount. So I mean

42:54And obviously there's a chance kiddos a scratch. I still think that's a possibility I would get I would say It's a smaller percent chance, but I yeah, I'm still on the Kittle under 37 We want positive news to be reported about Kittle for the next two a is the Tongus price gets juice back up That would be my general but I'm yeah completely locked stuff. I didn't fade I looked at fading Kittle. I was trying to debate. Do I go receptions? Do I go Yards? I think you're probably on the right side. Although his reception prop is pretty high. I think it's three and a half So I think it's pretty similar. I just I'll take the yards because maybe he gets some dink and dunk stuff But I him running down the field and getting 38 receiving yards. I'll pay to see it. So yeah, give me the under So is that is your Tongue is your official play here Kramer? You want to give out something else What else you like Mike Evans is three and a half receptions. Oh, okay Mike Evans three and a half receptions. What

43:55And Let's read let's think about this reasonably So struggling had a great preseason where he set catch records in the preseason Don't that doesn't mean shit Debo Samuel is I think he's gonna be more of a mascot. Yep. Uh carry the boom box like be a be a leader vet leader kind of he's gonna be out there But Mike Evans is gonna be their alpha and we were all so high on Ricky Pierzo And what he was gonna do in this offense the idea that he's gonna not have four catches in this game Mind blowing to me now obviously you can pair this with us anytime at plus one 90 two to one Sure, I'm in on that too. I'll be playing that as well. I have the the ton just and any Evans or the two anytime touchdowns I have in this game right now. All right, Peter. All the one out there with the pierce all exposure All the sharps were on it, but what are we talking about Evans? Recently they you know We came out we learned kind of you know, there's some cynical beat reporters in San Francisco land

44:57Which is why I think it's easier to get the real story with some of this stuff and it's pretty much come out like oh yeah Evans whatever injury concerns we had in the preseason that was just the vet managing through the preseason And he's gonna be full-go and a you know pivotal part of this offense if you're the Rams What are you focusing on? Shuttin Christian McCaffrey down bottling up the run game and you probably feel somewhat confident you have cornerbacks that can handle themselves on the outside There's not a person in the league that can cover Mike Evans one-on-one or any of these big guys so And bra and I'll give Brock birdie some some A compliment he's very good at the anticipatory throws Especially on the outside and so I think Evans using his side like this seems crazy to me Like the idea that we're gonna not have a Mike Evans five six catch game is crazy Thought about using it as a lot or didn't go there over three and a half catches minus one 20 CJ Where what are you doing prop wise and do you at well? Let's start do you have any thoughts on this Rams versus

46:0249ers travel strategy Shreya sleep experts pilots way in it. You hear the one I think was Ed Fang had a had a conversation with a sleep expert who She The take while the Rams are right is well They're gonna be on their normal circadian rhythm this entire time And by going out there the way they're going out there. They're not really adjusting And so they're having more optimal prep time more optimal practice time and They're gonna be in and out before their body needs to adjust. Okay, so loves it loves it compared to the nineers going over there Completely screwing up their body Clock and having having sub optimal practices for a week right, but they have a different science right that defends them as well Like yeah with your body well the counter argument. Yes. I think also is less about This idea that you need a day which by the way a day for every time zone you go through right I don't know if I will my personal experience lines up with that. I've done a decent amount of traveling

47:06I've done a decent amount of traveling through time zones That seems a little ridiculous. Have you done that so Australian for that? I mean, this is not no no Australia. This is not flying to Europe. This is flying to Australia San Francisco to Paris on different days Howers. Yeah, they're on a different day. Sure, but then you saw Ricky Morris missed this birthday birthday crying out loud Yeah, so I never to happen again. You're right. The longest flight I've done was a non-stop 12 hour flight. Yeah It's a lot and you put staffers back up in there. I mean, it's just my point I think if you listen to all the science and the Niners at least touched on this a little bit more the Rams aren't addressing this at all they're not addressing the activity of flying as a physical activity right yeah, I think when you when you're flying six to eight hours to Europe or whatever like and by the way when they the last time they went to where they did this was a flight from Baltimore to London Which is five and a half hours to a nothing Truffin about so the idea that the physical action of flight

48:07Isn't really being factored in by the Rams and I know we're not all weather hawks, but there's like a crazy Storm system basically throughout the entire Pacific Ocean right now What if their travel gets delayed a little bit? Making bacon who is our favorite New Zealand butcher I asked him on his thoughts He said I did that flight recently de Houston and it wrecks you I'd want to be in country as early as possible to adjust to the time flip and the muggy weather coming into spring New Zealand. It's a wet heat. So Interesting Now we have had we have had some humidity in the last couple weeks wet heat I read that in the long cocks Yeah, well, maybe he's talking about what it's like in Australia this time he's saying for sure like the adjustment to oh Yeah, yeah, it's a fair comment adjustment to humidity is also a thing That everyone's experienced before if you live in a dry climate going to a human climate likely is gonna fuck with some sort of allergy or whatever

49:09And we actually we do have a Stafford did a little interview regarding the travel I broke my back. Oh no What do you mean by that you broke back is broken? A vertebrae or a little harsher Spinal Jim What a best thing like what a one of the greatest interviewing moments good work. What could work? Could work by SGP and Jim Gray out there Thank you Stafford. So CJ where you at? Do you think it do you think it Makes a difference? I mean, I get both sides. Yeah, I do get both sides and like who might argue with their results I obviously am not a body doctor of any point of any kind, but I would yeah, that would be my Do I travel the lot though? That causes you to travel 100% and when I talk about times just like that and I've done the even from here to Europe and I have done the Australian flight Yeah, sure if it is a different beast. Yeah, it really is. It's like so I don't know if I don't know if I was in tip top getting out of there

50:11You know like getting off of that it does take a at least a night sleep before you're like, you know What is going on here? Just with your like I said with just with the physical body of being in a plane Yeah, the ramps are really doing that right now obviously their plane is gonna be a little different than mine But at the same time they're also have different bodies. They have to get ready and I didn't have to plan NFL football game like these days So in a divisional rival so um I'm leading San Fran this game anyway in general just because of the classic Shanahan McVey match up divisional Ryan won the three and a half and all that but I don't think You know We're gonna find out I guess if the body could directly in the report I think we're gonna find out more about it when they come back then really um The result there because how about the ram is going to just when they come back I think it's gonna hurt the well I think it's gonna hurt the 49ers more because they got used to Australia time But I don't know they did come back early and then I know the Rams put on Monday night Um the one thing I did like about the ramp so this game is being played at a

51:1210 30 in the morning. I think local time yeah And the Rams will always be in 5 30 pacific time and their body clock. Yep, which is supposed to be your prime Oh, I guess I heard that Your peak performance hours are that so they'll always be in that hour but I guess if you have to keep practicing in those hours too like so you I went a little deeper into that you're at your your peak like your peak physical Most of the science around that kind of stuff essentially is saying the sun is a critical piece of how your body wakes up circadian how the the mitochondria Start activating and so like for example shan our peak of the day in terms of sun exposure is like 3 p.m. To 7 p.m Whereas on the east coast it might be more like 10 a.m. To p.m And so there are people that believe that your your peak kind of varies To where you are more relative to where you are near how close to the equator you are but

52:16Yeah, you can really fall into a deep deep now I would agree that San Francisco probably has a tougher time coming back in terms of the adjustment but That means if you if you believe that it inadvertently means they're more prepared for That they're more adjusted for that Even grace themselves The community out there they become the ambassadors stadiums got to fit to 100,000 people it's like this What is it Apollo stadium? It's like a school city nut city a footy stadium. Yeah, Australian rules football That's 90% nine or fans apparently well that we talked about this it was gonna be a Rams home game But clearly the Niners were more popular team in the country of Australia and it does sound like Yeah, it sounds like the Australians appreciate that one team has come Levi Sutherland have this fear thousand percent. Yeah, they've been going around my capri's praising the coffee down there Shana Han is talking about time travel that's pretty excellent Saying he doesn't have to do his injuries yet because the the Rams aren't you know He wants to be on the same time who said they didn't believe in Antarctica was that Fred Warner?

53:18Oh, after the flight there's been a couple athletes the recently talking More about it. Yeah, yeah in our car doesn't exist. I love it. Oh, CJ. What are we doing props? Well, I'll just toss it out there real quick I thought you guys would have I just had it in the holster Mike Evans anytime. Yeah, that's my other one if you have it You can take it whatever you know way doesn't matter to me. It seems like it's more your guys props anyway your fans Take punch your I mean we love that even money. Yeah, and now we're getting plus two 10 for Mike Evans any time 10 Yeah, is that you're scared? Why is that? Well, so you do have the benefit of Christian McCaffrey being insane chalk. Yeah, I think there was there's also You can tell by the props. There's no certainty where the ball is gonna go in the passing game You have a number of guys totaled at two and a half and three and a half receptions. Yeah, you have a number of relative similar Touchdown prices. So I think it's more just uncertainty Is Mike Evans gonna be more than just a red zone threat? But even then it's that that's to me what's crazy about Mike Evans

54:20You can I can justify why the catches is lower maybe Although I obviously I like the old guy's gonna get red zone in the red zone How do you how do you tell yourself he's not gonna be right? One a to Christian McCaffrey's one B. Yeah, so yeah, I'm on the Mike Evans anytime as well Kramer any other props you want to toss out here Rams? I was 49. I was a little Supri I think the Rams is a tough one because now you have Clearly chef. Do you want it to get in on some some calcium action with his the league may suspend? You're the only one that's reporting the league may suspend Puka now you're saying Now you walk it back fuck your own report that you float out. I get it I get it you have your fantasy draft Labor Day weekend, Chef. Do you want to make sure you get all your guys? At this point, I think we have to mute Chefty and just move on But I was a little surprised to find the price for the staff for an interception to be so steep He's plus 120 There

55:20Unique This is what coaches would say this is what the SMU coach kept saying you it's a unique experience To be to have the privilege to play football like this we think maybe they have miscalculated the travel Situation maybe Just a little groggyness with the team. Yeah, Stafford. I understand why he his price is is quite low for the interceptions But he he threw some interceptions last year. He's a big game interception throwers It's not like he's a guy who was was super duper clean last year now granted he was Clean against the Niners in two games I think there's just gonna be a lot of volume in this game. What do you what do you think overall like because I could make a case for Both that be in a very low scoring game or a very high scoring game because of the travel We don't know what this turf is like there could be some you know got a slipping busted plays I think your assignments you decorate some scoring or on the other side the offense is rusty and guys are at a sink and it's an ugly game

56:21I could totally see both extremes. Yeah, I see more of an under. I don't have a good take on the total I think the only the under argument is simply the the grass is not going to be able to handle big men to me That's the only are in the travel Both these games last year were relatively high scoring. Yeah Now granted the first matchup Wasn't as high scoring but staff would still drop back like 50 times and so To me when you're playing an interception prop that's that's the first thing you're looking for is how many times is he gonna throw the ball? Right I think let's see I pull it up So 47 attempts in the first game 36 in the second game the second game they won 42 to 26 So even in a game they if you remember they they had a very strong game kind of kind of took care of business Dropback 36 times so Interception price should not be plus 120 see Jay anymore 49ers Rams props you like yeah, of course Come on give out the ladder on the Vs and show at sports gambling podcast Friday show the air of

57:23Terrence Ferguson receptions. I love it So I'll just go to his baseline. It's which is one and a half heavily juice I'm gonna give out two and a half at plus one 54 which is absolutely crazy this I mean You're so generous this just because I mean because we're giving out plus numbers Might as well give out the plus number one. I mean Out to and I'll tell you why because if Terrence Ferguson does hit this the way I think he's gonna hit it It's gonna be latter worthy if he doesn't it's just gonna brick off anyway. He's gonna get one catch So you might as well play three catches at least because I like that. It's all or nothing It is an all or nothing and you're gonna find out pretty quickly There's talks about him him lining him up in the X he might be the third legit third option for these rims They're very shallow receiver because they decided to draft high Simpson and you know they just drafted They just trade for two to at well to come back That's crazy and I'd say this is the most excited Sean McVeigh has been about a new talent uh, yep since he he debuted his shitty dog trick on hard 100% he just sat there to hit the ball Now obviously the narrative with McVeigh into tight ends. He's a demon with the tight ends

58:28You never know which one is gonna be because he plays four or five of them He's got Higby's got Parkinson and they drafted another one five did I see? Yeah, they drafted world I got to max claim or max Claire right? Let's say that's the song. They're gonna run 15 personnel. Yeah, why not I think it would be zero five. I mean, I don't know what you go four to zero five. Would you have can you have five? Yeah, five chain Daniels will see you Yeah, it's true. So four to what is even four tight ends in a running back called like is that that I don't I don't think they call it That's take five 14 I don't I don't know It's just a it's a Sean McVeigh is is changing the game with tight ends. They have yeah, you're so they they kept five tight ends Yeah, they sure did you need well you need five tight ends That's crazy. You did need five tight ends if you're gonna play three or four for sure. I mean could you be you know Obviously rotating in whatever injuries practice squad back going up and down Um, but the way they talk about it's funny. They don't talk about you'll hear reports about Ferguson No, the never portal come out the next day like I never mind. I didn't say that because you know like

59:29The Illuminati of McVeigh got to them like do not let today always have some kind of secret every year You know when Puka exploded kind of Williams came out of nowhere Like these things has come out of nowhere with these Rams and there was talks about them lining Ferguson up everywhere They love yeah, he wasn't a joke. Yeah, he was a Joker. He wasn't an air yard guy last year not a lot of catches like 1113 but um, I think there's a possibility of him like rack him up like He's listed as that this is how crazy is he's listed as the third string tight ends yes Parkinson's the starter Higby's the back and he's like the third wide receiver But it's like okay, but you couldn't McVeigh couldn't be more rock Absolutely enough over that so over two and a half receptions plus one fifty four Good transition to our first TDs To me, it's a fairly simple formula. I'll take two darts on the Rams tight end room in terraced Ferg Terence Ferguson 21 and then Higby 27 to one I still think Higby's kind of his guy there Uh in the red zone hopefully I don't crap out because they do seem to like all these guys. What was your Ferguson price?

1:00:3220 to one oh, we 22 to one. Yeah, 22 currently available. Okay, and 27 to one for Higby on the other side Brock Pertie Loves a little scramble 27 to one that is a crazy price for a guy who Happily uses his legs if needed and then Tonga's first touched out 55 to one Niners were a tricky exercise because I mean Evans is interesting too. I'm playing Evans of Okay, what are you doing Kramer? So Evans for two to one the boards the same as yours I thought about playing Colby Parkinson for the Colby Parkinson verse Higby is an interesting convert I'll be really I'm just gonna be devastated if I pick the wrong one I picked Higby based on the price being longer Well, I thought Damien in the chat uh he has Colby Parkinson first half anytime touchdown seven to one Which if you like that you should be playing first touchdown as well a little piece Yeah, it's gonna get it too to one ratio or something. Yeah, which I I mean I'm not Antiparkin said I just you kind of got to plant your flag and what tight ends you like here

1:01:34But yeah, you I'm playing uh Tonga's obviously and Looking around you can there are still If there there's there's a sixty to one still out there on his first touchdown So you're playing basically similar card except you're putting Evans in and so I was gonna say the party did Did what's that what's parties anytime? I bet that's a decent number Well, yeah, I what I was gonna say is pretty first touchdown does did stand out. Yeah, not as much as Drake like or sorry More than Drake may it stood out just because at 27 compared to 20 I love the yeah, Bernie's great. I wasn't even thinking about yeah, I'm playing Evan Stongus Higby Ferguson Final answer yeah, I Of course split it only two split the roulette only two So I need there That party number was pretty I got one kind of 30 to one on bet online here. Okay for that. I'll update it to 30 Shopper I can't believe in Tosha Carl you sick out there. Yeah, people are disappointed. He's out of solid 50

1:02:37But I don't know about that one. Yeah, I'm gonna stick with Purdy and this is gonna be a correlate as well I almost the one with this I do I do like it's rushing proper as well by the way 18 and a half I think This D-line he's gonna obviously got to run with this D-line coming out of there and you know you got your new miles Darnels who are gonna be sack hunting going up field cutting up field as much as possible Right if he's playing either way they all gonna be coming out from Purdy is great stepping up and cutting on a need that and picking up a nice quick five or six So I love purdy 31 and on the other side. Let's see to get to him Rams defense 35. Ooh, I like that I mean look at this this Rams defense when I had boots on the ground the training camp It was clear the Rams defense was the best unit out there really by far they are just dominant And are you playing the defense or the defense and the specialty defense only okay It's a I've had some some lengthy DM debates where people try to tell me I should be taking the shorter special teams price I'm with CJ I generally would prefer to have the longer price and get rid of special teams

1:03:41Just completely random. I want no parts of that it's like playing it's random. Yeah, you're gonna be pissed off when it happens But it's random so we play into without Scottie shuffle market all right if he makes it whatever I'd rather have the full price odds there I'm out of coward All right Hey, let's put together a little underdog entry go to underdog you can play along of course million dollar in bonus bets That gimmick that promo is really fun How you doing with your bonus pretty good. I had Jennings passing yards higher last night. So I had a couple duds, but I still got a nice pile of bonus bets You got to go you basically go through 20 picks keeping however much you Yeah, obviously if you win you get to keep more if you lose you have less of your million dollar bank world very fun promo And that's for existing customers as well new customers get 50% deposit match So if you're not on underdog good time to get it in if you are get it on your keep your million bonus funds Why would you not be playing along with that very fun? I have a ten dollar max only 100%

1:04:43Yes, that's three to eight. Let's do that. Let's get that going So we should go should we go longer than three legs since it's only 10 dollar entry Let's go to the moon. So maybe we do each two we get to six six. Okay Well, I mean, I feel it feels like we should we should find some things that we all liked from Mike Evans to get in the end zone Anyone I'll pitch that one out. All right. How are the how are the TD prices? Are we better off going? Uh, yeah, all there some are better than others. Where's my boost? This isn't bad. This is it's a it's like it's like 2.9 X so Mike Evans pretty close to market higher half rushing receiving touch that that's the first one Yeah, what else uh, what else we like here? Well, see do we have like a Ferguson catches CJ like that receptions is one and a half Yeah, let's take that yeah, we do we want you to do it a half you can do yards if you like as well I don't mind that but uh, what do you like better yards or there's targets as well

1:05:44targets is crazy I'm not talking targets is a bit targets and underdog especially for us though. That is true. Well 3.5 You get plus price to the oh Do you have any receptions or we're doing its target? No, I'm I'm asking siege. I'm just throwing stuff out Oh, I mean, um, we don't have to do teres Ferguson at all. Yeah, listen to me having done on the show, right? Sure. Yeah, well, this is your call. Well, we want something juicy. You're saying no We're gonna do six legs. So it's yeah, yeah, I say we just go one and a half receptions or the targets Because we don't need a crit we don't okay need to get juicy here. What's his yards like 25 23 and a half I think that's good to listen to do the yards yard. Yeah. All right, so we got Evans to get in the end zone Ferguson higher receiving yards. What else is uh, striking your fancy Kramer? Uh, let's let's move over to Seattle game. Okay. I like the Mayrushing yards. I didn't give it out as a play. I like his passing yards to was it to 25 to 32 and a half wow. Let's fly it up. He's gone over

1:06:48He's gone over to 30 17 his last 25 games I like Hunter Henry obviously as well Kramer. What do you what do you say? Well, all right, so So what we like third to be passing yards for Drake May so maybe Are we all on the idea of dobs versus AJ Brown? Yeah, 36 and a half or six Giving yards do we want to like that higher there? I also like Hunter Henry, but I think I don't want I think we don't do too much double dipping. All right. Who do we like on Seattle? It seems like barner is a mile Barner 25 and a half receiving yards two and a half receptions I'd even be willing to to bump that up the three and a half CJ yards is fine too. Yeah, love it yards yards or receptions for barner. Yeah yards. Yeah Yeah, okay. I mean, we're already at With the Evans to get in the end zone Ferguson 23 and a half receiving yards dobs higher 36 and a half receiving yards barner higher

1:07:533 and a half for sections. Is that what we have? Yeah, we have four legs $10 is 52.7 X. I feel like that's pretty good. Oh wait, is there a fifth one I missed? No, those are four Evans to get in the end zone Ferguson higher 23 and a half receiving yards dobs higher 36 and a half receiving yards And a J barner higher three and a half receptions $10 entry returns you Wow, I have a completely different price. I don't know how this is possible. I got 35 X bonuses. Did you you went to a J barner higher three and a half receptions? Oh, no, you're not oh, we're not doing yards. Got it. Yeah Got it. I adjusted the receptions. Yeah, okay. Oh barner to three Yeah, that wasn't what we were discussing. Oh, that's why I said what are we doing? That's fine. Yeah, no, we we said The yards is what we discussed all right, so the yards radio signals turned off What the fuck I putting it in and I ask you phone I repeat a number of times in and out of airplane mode the phone

1:08:56Yeah, that's why I was looking at it because I have a different price. I must have screwed It's funny you guys were talking about tells and poker tells and that was yeah, that was my five 35 X okay There you go $10 with the boost with the boost there you go underdog fantasy promo code s GPN or also bright to my cow she cow she's got a great offer where you trade $25 and get $25 trade away Great live cash out you're getting a market price on your cash out Good for the futures good for in game Kramer traded out of his UMass Albany parlay into nice nice profit there great trading experience Get it on the action trade away available in a ton of states Kowshi promo code s GP at All right, we got some ladders and some D gen plays CJ well save your ladder for last you are the you're the laddy daddy let him back cleanup I'll go or Sean just wants to steal your ladder

1:09:59I'll go simple here. Give me a little step ladder AJ barner One touchdown plus to 85 two touchdowns to C5 to one I think we were talking about this on our TDs segment on Vsim But I like AJ barner in the red zone so to the C Hawks one touchdowns plus to 85 two is 25 to one so AJ barner touchdown step ladder All right But I like that that's Kramer what's your like building block yeah Well, I mentioned earlier cj was on to something very sharp And that's that Ramondra Stevenson may not have a lot of competition for being on the field we already know that Look Brable loves what he loves and we know he loves Ramondra Stevenson and he's still willing to talk about Ramondra Yes, unlike other things he's once loved in the past I did the latest update of he thought about defending her If you think decided not to you think there's a chance that Seattle runs back the Super Bowl

1:11:03I think there's a high likelihood that Ramondra is getting involved in the passing game We have a situation where I do I go yards do I go reception cj earlier was talking more on the reception line Now when I look at his stat lines in general from last year The catches were very rarely there in volume But the yards often would be he's very sneaky. He's a great vision running back who could get like operates a screen very well I'd rather bet That he has a couple Longer catches we saw it in the playoffs as well um last year with games of 75 and 40 yards Going into the regular season pretty much anytime he got near going over the three and a half He's getting close to 50 yards receiving and so I'd much rather play that we'll start At the baseline, which is 25 plus minus 106

1:12:0430 plus is plus 136 40 plus is plus 260 50 plus is 4 and a half to one And because we we don't that's probably where I should stop a nice four-round ladder. I will I will give you the 60 yard at 7 to 1 Juicy Again, it's if they're trailing and they're having issues with pressure You know if I was really trying to be clever with my D Gen play I probably could could create a nice correlated, you know, Drake may rushes. There's some sacks Seahawks alt line I didn't do that. I had I just a little bit more of a shotgun strategy Trying to put a hole in a wall, but yeah, Ramandre Receiving yards ladder. Yeah, it does even it feels like there's a number of ways that could get home, which is fun Um, I think it probably needs them to get their ask I think it's less likely if they're dominating. Yeah, probably More likely in the game script that we saw in the Super Bowl, but again, but I'll bet on that

1:13:09It catches to the running back in the Super Bowl everyone pointing out in the chat. Thank you, chaffer updating us They announced Aaron Donald Donald not making the trip to Australia Dan save him. Can't believe I'm not going to sound like he was ever going to I told you what I thought when we when it first started coming up I don't think he's going to be playing for real until like middle of the season. Yeah Well, and if you look at his contract his roster bonuses they like the roster bonuses don't happen to like the later game So I think they had some sort of agreement where it's going to be a slow ramp up. I really week three week four He starts playing is it yeah, maybe I the thing I read I thought it basically said the material bonuses start happening week six Yeah, I thought but also thought he had to play 15 games were to hit those But I think that potentially includes the playoffs. I could be wrong. Yeah, they're obviously they already got him scheduled into the Super Maybe you're right. So if you're right then that's week three right that's why I would figure you do but I think I think part of it too is like how much yeah the

1:14:13Is he out there week three three rate like ramping it up slowly Is he doing road games? Does he lead to state of California? That's actually a ball. That's a boss move. Yeah, I'll be playing for the home games. Oh, I'm sure I'll go to San Fran if you need me up there maybe in Seattle, but I'll be curious to be placing against the Giants next week Yeah, scared Andrew Thomas Well, that would be a miles Garrett problem Aaron Donald has a better match up against the Giants. Oh, yeah, he's on the interview Giants in here. This is the center is probably the weak spot for the Giants CJ what is your big ladder? Well, I gave out like I said give out a few great ones on Friday night But I did have to skip over it because we had the showtime for Yeah, our great buddy Troy winning the slot machine well worth it. So so let me give this ladder that I brushed over quickly the time it deserves That is Rashid Shaheed receiving yards Um, this is another Boomer boss. That's why I love the ladder here as well. No need to play the regular Because we've all heard the talks about

1:15:15They want to include to be part of the actual offense this year hold off season workout. They paid them Three years 51 million what 35 of a guaranteed something like that Good contract million. Yeah, good contract. So they do want they do need the number two now They traded they gave up what a fourth of a fifth form last year They coos kind of just jammed into the offense. He made an impact on special teams and then around the guys plays I think they have places I end up for him and Rashid Shaheed is Wait, I wanted the greatest Uh, the deep ball 33 is a little wrong when I'm gonna mess with that. Let's just hop right on to 60 yards 60 yards is plus two 60 for Rashid Shaheed 70 yards plus three 70 80 yards Plus 514 90 yards is plus 720 shout out to Tony Hawk 100 yard game for Rashid Shaheed Is plus 10 40 and once you're up there I mean he can turn on you know 120 you know problem 120's all the way up top 19 to one nice Uh, oh my go

1:16:16Do you know what year Tony Hawk first did the 720 not on TV but actually in he was the first scape order to be credited with the 720 Do you know what year that was I'd say 86 85 nice nice job nice job also dating yourself not going to the not going to the 900 All right going right to the 7 and it never got better than 720 my buck I got I got the old skateboard trick business of even There's probably dudes doing 10 80's now. Yeah, for sure It doesn't get it. It's like one of those things. I just did not max out Yeah, because they used to be just dudes hanging out like doing drugs and skating or snowboarding Jimness And now they're Jim you got these these like Japanese dudes who are like yeah Just spinning at these ridiculous rates. They don't yeah, they don't have they don't put enough toxins in their body When they get hurt it really sets them back You also do see in in in skateboarding and in snowboarding the the guys that have been great have been so much better than everyone else too

1:17:20Like Sean white was going like five feet further out of the half life as ever You know, I think sometimes you just end up with that which is this you have these people that are They don't have the fear thing Like the Travis Pastrana you watch his heart rate when he does this shit and it's just like Someone sitting on his couch enjoying a nice Nice calming Cocktail or something. Well, that's like the guy who does the Plaking on his name, but the crazy like free climbs and stuff like that. He has a hollum. Yeah, it's like a genetic thing Free solo guy where he doesn't have the Well, they freak out. They say it. I mean, it's essentially your your psycho path. You're you're a say you you don't Have emotion. Yeah, you should like when when Travis Pastrana jumps through the air in a car his heart rate shouldn't just be chilling at you know A normal like relaxed same with hot like Gary Bucy when he injured his brain And then he didn't have that regulator to stop him doing crazy stuff. It's yeah, it's that but the other way Yeah, same thing that gets people to like murder and do all sorts of horrible things

1:18:21All right, let's close the house It's close up with the G Gen play You know I'm a good general So on the recent show we gave out the Tonga's two TDs at 175 I'll make this a show play. I still I think it's good at a hundred to one my other one We didn't talk about him. Keelan black You can get his anytime is still nine to one. I know technically McCaffery is practicing, but clearly he's dealing something with the back issue He's missed time practicing a Tonga's touchdown with the Keelan black touchdown I put this in over on no big promo koresh EP and 70 to one So a nice little add on there and say that one more time Tonga's touchdown Keelan black touchdown 70 to one Okay, okay, Kramer. What do you got? Uh, all right. I have a bunch of I have a number of ways you can play this, but I was thinking we just start the season off with a traditional Round robin. Oh fun

1:19:23So We like touchdowns and again, this is this is actually the bet that probably would made me reflect like okay Maybe too many anytime touchdowns, but I was a I guess that I I recrafted it to where we only have one per team They all happen to play tight end So Tonjes Ferguson Barner Henry. Oh like this all four. We're just doing anytime by the way. I'll be on There'll be some two touchdown Barner Tonjes stuff too But those three guys so if you want to hear the prices just by game Tonjes and Ferguson Yep, that's 23 or 29 to one Barner and Henry is 13 to one You put those Many one many parlay's together 429 to one. Oh wow Now again a lot of this is hinging on the tone just touchdown Tonjes Tonjes So yeah, I mean I Again, I put Barner and Henry just they are long prices this to start the season and I feel like both those guys are going to be number two's in the red zone

1:20:31so Four tight tight end touchdowns if you want to get fun and really round robin I would recommend maybe just do the game Parlay is going to put them together, but if you want to do the full round robin by all means don't let me stop you if you do four All the way and don't maybe don't do the three is just do all the versions of the twos Um, you're gonna have to make what how many bets is that Sean Hmm two times four Or four to the second yeah for uh, so you're doing what 12 bets Minus the I don't know what the number is, but uh if you run that you'll uh you'll cash for a 26 to one See Jay take us out with a D gen play what do you got All right My boy limit is exceeding um What are you maxing it out? Is there nothing better than when you hit the limit on a parlor? I just called the book a coward add a difference election to books like no absolutely not

1:21:33It is a legal play though I'll toss your a j barner and there are two touchdowns. We'll start right off. Oh, okay. I love that. That's it 22 to one I'm looking at On the battle line you might be well. Yeah, you might be able to find a longer than them with that But sure, sure you got a better number just just to make this just to satisfy this book Romeo dobs. I love it 28 to one two touchdowns Uh, he's also 150 to one for three touchdowns by the way Um, that's just a side note for anyone out there who was listening on Friday Dobs two touchdowns barner two touchdowns Parents Ferguson seven receptions 29 to one Oh Didn't see that one coming. No, that's that's for a separate game Uh, and it's six bets. My bad didn't divide by two But that is plus one two five three nine zero zero Ferguson seven seven seven catches is 29 to one right now And I'm calling that that's the high degree of everything else will happen

1:22:34That's how you're gonna do the first one you're gonna sweat that one good Earlier had six catches at 23 to one which is more reasonable. Yeah, okay I can bring her down. I mean in fact, as soon as there's my book would prefer me to bring it down one I'll pull that one of them so you know what? Let me bring it down to six catches Just to make it just to make it 23 to one of you. You have eight now Wow, these numbers are really coming down. This is crazy Good thank you for the guy in the live tree Back up But yeah, wow that is plus 585 100 so that is what 5,800 five five five and I have five 1800 to one With 5800 to one. Yes, isn't it is the normal way to say that? 5800 to one there And a trillion three hundred Top two touchdowns. That's the far-light bad. Top two touchdowns bar two touchdowns Ferguson six receptions

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