Nick D – Oscars, Misfits, TV, Dan Feinberg & More

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It's the Nick Deep Podcast.

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It is the Nick Deep Podcast.

How you doing everybody?

My name is Nick DeGio, I am your host.

For episode number 436 of the Nick Deep Podcast

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Sometimes I have guests, sometimes I don't,

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Jam Pat episode today joining me is one of our cohorts

at the Radio Missfits Podcast Network.

I just mentioned to you that there are some incredibly

entertaining and awesome podcasts that are available

at your fingertips at RadioMissfits.com.

And one of those podcasts is the podcast

that Lauren La Trudice hosts on Radio Missfits.

And it's Missfits Making It.

That's the name of the podcast.

She's really funny.

She's a great comedian, a great performer.

And she's bringing her Missfit variety show

to Chicago for the third straight year for a night of comedy

that chooses joy, connection, and community

in an otherwise scary time.

And it's nice to have this.

And Lauren is fantastic.

Lauren is really, really funny.

She's great.

And she gathered together a bunch of really incredible

and very funny Chicago performers.

And they're going to put together a really cool show.

And you can check that out at the Annoyance Theatre on Friday,

the 13th, this coming Friday, the 13th, at the Annoyance,

which is at 851 West Belmont.

It's going to be a great show.

Tickets are available now.

And you can check out the Annoyance Theatre.

For more tickets.

But we'll give you all the information about the show,

the Missfit variety show.

And we'll talk to Lauren about her podcast,

and so much more.

Heter on the podcast.

I think it was last year, middle of last year.

So maybe a little bit less than a year ago.

She was on the podcast.

She's fantastic.

And her podcast here at Radio Missfits is great.

Missfits Making It.

Fantastic podcast with Lauren Lachudice.

And she's going to be joining me to talk about the variety show

at Annoyance coming up on Friday the 13th.

So there you go.

And then we jump into our TV talk.

As we do every other week, the fantastic Dan Feinberg,

the most knowledgeable and funny and interesting

and fantastic television critic that has ever existed.

I've known Dan for well over two decades,

solidly over two decades.

Back with my days on WGN.

And he has been a regular guest right here on this podcast

since the beginning.

I love the guy.

And he joins us every other week.

He writes for the Hollywood Reporter.

And you can check out his blog posts and his blog

and his website at the Fine Print.

That's F-I-E-N because he spells his name that way.

F-I-E-N-B-E-R-G.

So the Fine Print F-I-E-N or Hollywood Reporter,

we are going to talk about all the new TV shows.

He's going to review a bunch of stuff that we're going to get to see.

We're going to talk about the last episode of Saturday Night Live,

featuring Ryan Gosling.

So much more.

Always a ton of TV and streaming and cool stuff to talk about

with Dan Feinberg.

We're going to do that.

So our biweekly visit with Dan Feinberg is happening.

And we close out the show with our final segment,

which is always a fantastic visit with the one,

the only, the fantastic Esmeralda Leon.

I love Esmeralda.

She is my friend.

We're going to catch up on what's been going on over the weekend

and some days.

Shoot the shit.

Talk about a little bit of the traditional stuff

that we don't think should happen.

And the time change.

For those of you who are listening to this,

we are now trying to adjust to the daylight saving time thing

where we had to move the clocks ahead,

late Saturday night into Sunday morning.

We lost an hour of sleep.

People are all fucked up for at least three months after that.

We'll talk a little bit about that and much more with Esmeralda.

So a jam-packed show with amazingly talented, wonderful people

that I am honored to be interviewing and talking with on this show.

Lauren Le Judice is going to join me to talk about the

misfits variety show.

Dan Feinberg talking TV and Esmeralda talking fun stuff as well.

And you, I love you guys.

You are the best.

You are my friends.

You are my supportors.

And I appreciate all the cool stuff that you guys have been doing to support.

Now, I just want to let you guys know that we are doing a live streaming chat

during the Academy Awards this coming Sunday night on Substack.

Now, for those of you who are Patreon subscribers and who have supported me there,

I've moved to Substack.

Substack is really cool.

And I'm going to be publishing a lot of exclusive articles and videos and stuff

that only my substacks supporters and subscribers can get.

So I'm on Substack and we are going to be doing a live chat during the Oscars

where I will be making comments and you'll be making comments and we'll share pictures

and videos of our Oscar parties that are happening at the same time.

I will talk about what's happening.

We'll make predictions where you have ballots available,

where you can fill out your ballots and predict who you think is going to win.

You can win prizes.

And we have Oscar Bingo where you get your Bingo cards and whatever happens

on those Bingo cards.

If it happens on the show, you can get Bingo also win prizes.

We'll be giving away some shirts and movie passes, copies of my book,

40 years, 40 films, and much more and it's going to be a live, hilarious,

interactive chat that is happening during the Academy Awards.

So join us because it's going to be fucking cool.

Say whatever you want to say, post whatever you want to post,

become a subscriber on Substack and you'll get all kinds of bonuses,

including videos that nobody else gets, articles that nobody else gets,

and all kinds of cool stuff.

So follow me on Substack.

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And then join us for the live chat on Sunday.

And speaking of Sunday, one of the coolest, one of the biggest things happening

for me and my book, 40 years, 40 films, I really hope we jam the place.

The Museum of Broadcast Communications is at 440 West Randolph in downtown Chicago.

And on Oscar Sunday afternoon, the 15th, starting at noon, Rick Cogan is going to be the host.

He's going to interview me, we're going to do an entire program dedicated to my book,

40 years, 40 films, which is my autobiographical journey through 40 years as a film critic,

where I write about my 40 favorite films from the past 40 years,

and list a whole bunch of others.

There are over 400 movies mentioned and talked about in this book, as well as my live story.

I'm real proud of it, people really seem to like it, and we're going to be doing a live event

to talk about that book and to talk about the Oscars.

So it'll be a great way to kick off your Oscar day.

So come on down, we want to pack the place.

Rick Cogan is going to be there, I mean, that alone should be enough for you to come out.

So Rick Cogan is hosting, I'm the subject of his interview,

and we're going to be in a cool room at the incredible Museum of Broadcast Communications.

If you've never been there, it is a Mecca Tribute Salute, a wondrous place,

where you can check out all the really cool radio and TV stuff, locally and internationally.

It's an amazing place, and I am unbelievably honored to be part of this program.

And they're dedicating this whole day to me in my book.

So it is on Sunday, March 15th at noon, from noon to 2.30 at the Museum of Broadcast Communications.

Rick Cogan will interview me, we'll do a Q&A, we'll hang out, we've got a meet and greet,

and I will sell and sign copies of my book.

So if you want to copy my book and you want it signed, get there.

If you want to be a part of a great conversation and talk about my book and a ton of movies

and Oscar predictions for that night, man, it's going to be a blast.

So you can't be anywhere else and be cooler between noon and 2.30 then be at the Museum of Broadcast Communications.

This Sunday, Oscar Sunday, March 15th, noon to 2.30, go to museum.tv, get your tickets now.

Order those tickets, museum.tv, get your tickets for the Sunday.

Oscar day extravaganza with Rick Cogan me.

We'll talk about my book 40 years, 40 films.

I will sign that those books and we'll hang out, do a meet and greet, sign books, take pictures, talk Oscars.

It's going to be a fucking blast.

So get your tickets now.

Let's jam the place.

My Nick D fans out there.

Come on now. Let's pack the place.

It's going to be a blast.

Museum of Broadcast Communications.

This Sunday, the 15th, noon to 2.30, museum.tv, get your tickets now.

Busy time, baby, busy time.

Awesome.

Cool.

All right. Well, it's Oscar week.

That means we got to go crazy for an entire week.

And that's my plan.

And I hope you can join me.

All right.

Let's take a little break to be congratulated.

But right after we get...

Oh, look who's here.

Wait a minute.

I am Carrie Russell and I love Nick's show.

I understand the truth.

I am Carrie Russell and I love Nick's show.

All right.

You're going to get congratulated.

We'll kick off the show with Lauren Lachudice talking about misfits variety.

Which is coming up right after you get congratulated.

Congratulations.

You're about to listen to the Nick D. podcast.

It's my father's best decision.

You've made today.

It makes the other podcasts seem like crap.

Oh, yeah.

Don't be a jagged off.

Okay.

I would like to welcome back to the podcast.

Someone who was here about a year ago was just discussing this with her before we started recording.

And it was about a year ago that she came to Chicago to do the misfit variety show.

And now this year she's back and she's doing it at what I think is a cooler venue.

Quite frankly.

A venue with a lot of history as we know about.

But one of the reasons why I had her on before, besides being very funny and really talented,

was that we are both a part of the radio misfits podcast network family.

Isn't that right, Lauren?

We're part of that.

And as we are.

Absolutely.

And I would like to welcome back.

Lauren Lachudice.

Man, I got it right the first time.

Lachudice.

Right?

Lachudice.

Yes, absolutely.

Man.

Absolutely.

You know, I only realize it into calling it the misfit variety show for about like 10 months or a year that,

oh my God, I'm also part of the radio misfits podcast.

I know.

Isn't that in your podcast, which appropriately enough is called misfits making it.

Yeah.

Tell us about the podcast first here that people can get right on this network.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

That's what I do is I interview creatives and other people with like weird, interesting jobs

and career paths about how they do it.

And what their advice is for us.

And also we do some comedy bits as well in there.

And anonymous.

We had respond to anonymously submitted stories that are submitted at the misfit variety show.

So yeah, it's a, yeah, I, it is a great resource for anyone who is trying to do anything different.

Because these, I've interviewed everyone from like the first A.D.

To like all of Mark DuPlaas's films to like the showrunner of key and peel.

I mean, there's just so many cool people that have a lot of interesting things to say.

That's awesome.

Well, give everybody your background on, on, on you.

You're a comedian, an actor, a board winning filmmaker, author.

You do a lot.

Yeah.

Where, where, where are you from?

How did you get into all this stuff that you do?

I'm from Queens, New York.

And, you know, I felt the need to create from a young age, but didn't have a background, a community of people who were like,

yeah, I like just be creative and like make stuff.

So I had, I went to Wesleyan University and that again, very artsy, but I didn't, I was doing science.

I was very far from the artsy, but I like being near them. That's why I went there.

And then I, I was doing drag in San Francisco when I graduated and I was like, all right, I think I just need to be on stage.

And I want to talk.

So this drag thing's got to go, but I'm going to figure this, I like characters.

And that's, I came back to New York and just started making stuff.

Now the thing is, it's like, why I do so many things.

It's like, I like the ability to, you know, control my career and create opportunities for myself.

So, yeah, I consider myself an artist.

You know, like Patty Smith, she writes poetry and she makes takes photographs and she paints and she writes music.

Yeah.

It's really, it's really interesting that you say Patty Smith.

You mentioned Patty Smith because my girlfriend and I just watched the documentary from about 10 years ago.

Life is a dream.

So good, right?

Yeah, yeah.

I really thought it was great.

And there was, you know, the thing that like I find really fascinating is that, that so many people pop up in it.

And yet it was made in a style where like you don't know, if you don't know who they are, you're going to miss it.

Like people who don't know, you know, like, you don't know flea.

They're going to be like, who is that guy she's talking about peeing in bottles with?

What's going on there?

And then, and the glass shows up in it and among a ton of other people.

But really, well done.

And we just saw her a few months ago here at the beautiful Chicago Theater, her 50th anniversary of the horses tour, which was on.

Believable.

See that as well.

Oh, my God.

I met Lenny K.

A few years ago.

Yeah.

Lenny K.

You met Lenny K?

Yeah, I did.

I did.

And I was like, okay, so what I know is his, his, his, um, his is God's son.

And so I got to meet him.

And that was incredible.

And so I know like, um, Pleasant or man, I actually made a short film about her, which is not.

I've been really told anyone about this because we're still going to get to film festivals.

But I did make a short film about like a character of this teenage girl who was obsessed with Patty Smith and is so obnoxious.

The way teenagers are already.

That's so cool.

Yeah, no, I've been a big, but that the show that she did at the Chicago for the 50th anniversary of horses was amazing.

Just amazing. Just so cool. And you know, you know, it's like you met Lenny Kay. I, I, I, I, I kind of know Susanne Vega pretty well.

So she worked with Lenny Kay. Uh, so, so just by proxy.

No, so, but that's cool. Do you, do you, do you play instruments at all? Do you play musical instruments?

You know, I do, but I have no talent musically. Oh, I see.

Yeah. Like I've learned wrote, but then at a certain point, you have to like, you have to just be able to go and channel on a way, like everything else.

And I don't have that. But so I, I am so mystified by musicians and yeah, it's pretty cool.

So of all the stuff that you do, because you do so many different things, do you have a favorite thing? Is it hard to, is it, is there a favorite thing that you do?

Well, I must be on stage in front of an audience, 100%.

Okay. So I love, I have to stand up. Is my, is my thing? And I love taking the stage and connecting with an audience.

And if I don't have that in my life, um, several times, at least several times a week, I don't do well.

We're going to talk about what's happening in Chicago, too, for sure. Um, I, I, uh, I do want to mention here that you have a, a Kindle bestseller.

Uh, about Melania Trump, uh, you, you imitated Melania Trump? Is that, is this?

Yes. I did in a personation of her. Um, and I, I kind of went wild. Like I, I had the, it started going, getting so popular.

I started doing stand-up in character as her. Um, and then it was clear to me, like, my friend was like, you have to write, if you're going to write a book, it has to be now and you have a deadline.

And just by just 2020, you better, you better get that done. So I, I was like, right, let me do it. And I just did it.

And you did, you, I'm sorry, you said 2020.

Yes. So I wrote it in 2019. Okay. And I knew I had to get it out there, um, 2018, 2019.

And we had to get it out there in 2020. And it was during COVID where like everything fell apart and unfortunately, I had to put it out then.

Well, well, I mean, you know, I, nobody wanted or knew what would happen in 2020 and 2024, where now, like, the people might be more interested in reading it because she's again, um, the first lady.

So, you know, uh, interesting enough, but the, um, I tried trotting her back and knowing after January 6th, she's over. Yeah.

It's like, this is no longer funny. Yeah. No, it's, well, I, that's the, you know, that's, that's the thing. I was, I was, I was going to ask you if there was interest in it and how people were reacting to it now, um, because I have a very, very hard time, um, watching the cold open on SNL sometimes, because I'm like, man, this shit's not funny anymore. You know, like, I can't, yeah, um, it's hard. It's really, really hard. But that, that's why I was, I was curious to see like what kind of reaction it's getting. Or, you know, well, I did try. Like, I literally tried, I brought her.

I had this regular new material night in New York, and I brought her out, like, thinking, you know, maybe I'll do her more. And it was just such a bomb. Like, they should have told, like, asked me before it just be so should have consulted me for investing in the movie. Although, that was really a payoff to Donald and a legal payoff to Donald,

of course, that's all. But, um, you know, he should have big ones. If they wanted to know if it was a flop, I would have told them because, like, no one is interested in.

No, it's funny. Um, I'm a film critic, uh, uh, uh, here in Chicago as well. I've been a film critic for 40 years. And, um, uh, and when that movie came out, I chose not to see it. And, um, uh, and when that movie came out, I did pop into theaters that were, that was showing it. There's a, you know, multiplexes here.

And I popped into theater. It was not why I saw the most, the biggest crowd of all the, you know, of, of everybody in there with, there were two people in one showing.

Uh, and the whole thing they made $7 million. I was like, yeah, that doesn't count the tickets. They bought right to pass revenue. Give me a break.

All right. Well, let's get on to what's a happier subject. Yes. Yes, you are coming to Chicago. And we need, we need this. We need a people, you know, we need to support an empathy and love and fun and

comedy. We need that now more than ever. My God. Now more than ever. Um, so I'm looking forward to you coming back and you're playing the annoyance. The annoyance is, uh, legendary here in Chicago. Uh, you know that. I mean, incredibly improv group. So many people studied there. I studied there for God's sake at one point. And, and so just a legendary space and tell me about misfit variety show and how everybody can check it out.

I'm so excited to be there. It's an honor to be, to be part of the annoyance lineup. Um, and what the show does. It's, it's a joy ride to celebrate what makes you unique and fun and quirky. And this is like, um, I think like five years ago, I wouldn't have needed to make the show.

But now we're in a space where like even being different in any way is a challenge for you.

Um, and so that's what we're doing. Listen, this is like we're taking on authoritarianism, y'all, because like they don't want you to be different. They want everyone to be the same. So when you come to the show, it's part of the resistance.

Yeah. Yeah. And, and there's a lot of resistance here in Chicago. I think you know that. Uh, I love it. Yeah. People show up when, uh, you know, when, when, when they're neat, when it needs to be done, they show up. And, you know, and the, and also, you know, like, uh, you know, like, uh, the powers that be hate this city.

Yes. Which, which we take, we take as a point of pride quite frankly. You know what I mean? Hell yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Because Chicago, that's the thing about Chicago was like, you guys are aware. Um, you're a wonderful plate people to perform to because you're smart, but not sensitive. Yeah.

And you also like, you're just so nice, but like, you have no problem like spitting in an ice agent's face. You know, like, I respect you so hard, Chicago. Yeah.

I think you're the, my favorite comedy audience to perform too. Oh, that's so nice of you to say that. That's really nice of you to say that. Yeah, we, we, you know, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're pretty special here. So tell me a little bit about the lineup and how you assembled it and, and, uh, and what people are going to expect on the night.

By the way, it's Friday the 13th.

Ah, yes. When it's happening. So tell me a little bit about a, a assemblage and who's going to be there and all that cool stuff. Yeah.

So we make a point to get like very different types of artists and bring them together to showcase different types of art in Chicago.

So we have other different, like comedy towns, we have character and we also have stand up and we also have some improv.

So we're bringing it all together. And then we have like a running sketch throughout the show, Lexi Lewis is a clown from Philadelphia who's coming with me on the show to do it.

That's part of that running sketch. And then we have a lots of bits in between. It is just like a nonstop journey.

So you're not going to, you're going to be, it's going to be over before you know it.

It's a great time. You can be very uplifted at the end of it. We promise. I promise you that.

That's very, very cool. Now do you like, um, uh, is, is this, you know, when you're on stage doing this and you're, I mean, what, what, what, how do you participate?

And do you, do you do a set or you just like basically the host keeping things moving?

I'm the host and I'm doing bits and I'm doing set. I do a set and I do different bits throughout it.

And, um, yeah, you'll, you'll see, yeah, and I do it because some of my characters as well come through.

That's very cool. And so do you, how often do you go out, do you get to get up on stage and do stand up?

I'm on stand up. I mean, stand up. I'm performing all over New York City and all over the East Coast and all over at wherever I can, honestly.

So I'm up on doing stand up at least like four or five times a week doing shows.

And so I've developed these characters that I can just pull out any time.

One of which is her name is Carmella Revoli. And I'm going to tell you, I'm from Bocavaton, Florida.

Okay. Okay. Okay.

Next day. And so I come in because I'm very entertaining. Do you want to stand?

My fans demand it. Okay.

I just want to let everyone know everyone coming.

Just be aware. I only, I only enter to standing ovation.

And do you get a lot of standing ovation in Bocavaton? Is that what they love you there?

Oh, those people, I don't perform for them. They have dead. I just like,

honestly, Nick, I spent a lot of my time. I just go down to, I just go down to Miami. Okay.

I love the gaze. I've my gay nephew.

We go, wow, we go to the parties. Okay. It's so much fun.

So that's where I spend my time. I'm going to go on tour, you know, my fans.

I gotta go see my family. You gotta see them. You have to see your friends get out of that half dead state.

Yeah. Oh my God.

Do you have, do you do certain like, are you inspired by certain things?

Do you do like if you're just like walking through walking through New York or and you see

somebody, do you get inspired by some of the characters or some of the people you see on the street

or some of the, just some of the commonalities that you see?

Well, I noticed when people say to me, and I noticed how people react, well, one really good

thing walking around, this is like, stuff that I'm developing now. In fact, is noticing how

people treat me differently than my family. Oh, because I'm tall and everyone thinks I'm rich

because I have high cheekbones and no ass.

So, so my family is like short squat Italians who everyone with like a New York accent.

And so everyone codes them as working class. And they either, they are very conservative and

they get treated very differently than I do. Yeah. Yeah. So, so how do they explain your physical,

your physically different like, hey, wait a minute, why am I so tall and I have no ass? What's going

on there? Well, well, we figured it out later, but usually they would just like the bunkings invaded

Tissley Lauren. That's what it was. The Vikings, I see. Yeah, the Vikings, right. Which actually

inspired a movie, um, movie that my short film, The Fiora Identity, which is actually just starting

so far today. Um, but they, they found out that I'm a sperm donor kid and that's why I'm so different.

And now is that real? Is that for real? Yeah. Oh, I am a sperm donor kid. Yeah. A few years ago,

that's, that's the reality part of it. Yeah. No, but the, wait, but the Fiora Identity.

The Fiora Identity is a film I made because that was like, how do I express this thing that

about the fact that like, you don't even, you can't even really understand who you are unless

you know where you're come from. And so this girl was told like it was like me if I wasn't

somewhat adjusted or is she just I took this Viking thing way too seriously. So this is girl who

so she's about to go on. It's a mockumentary like she's about to go on this on this trip to Norway

and then you cut to her parents being like, ah, ah, ah, ah, and then the, the grandma's in the corner

given the filmmaker the real deal. Listen, kid. Swimmies didn't work. Oh, that's great. So,

so I mean, is the film you're working on it now or it's finished? It's finished. We're submitting

it to the first film festival today. Wow. That's great. Well, that's very, very cool. Awesome.

Now listen, you mentioned we talked a little bit about Patty Smith, but who are some of your other

influences? Whether it be whatever arts it is because I know you're I mean, you're all over the

place, you know, filmmaker writer, comedian. When you were growing up, what did you watch? What did

you see? What made you laugh? What interested you? Oh, growing up. Well, I would just watching like

the dysfunction in my family. It was the great inspiration and watching how because I felt like

an outsider. So you can take, you said there are so taken notes from an objective point of view.

And I would just notice the way people treated each other poorly and the jealousies and the intrigue

around me. And then I got really influenced, you know, comedically, I wasn't that into comedy because

I never thought it was for me or my experience, like coming from Queens, it just felt like a very

elitist or a very like demeaning project. So I never really got into it. But later on, like,

when I got into comedy, Maria Bamford's a huge influence. I find her, she's like one of the greats.

Just saw her, just saw her last Saturday here in Chicago. She's so, she's amazing. I've loved

her forever. And we saw her at the den theater here in Chicago. And she killed. It was great. But

you know, did you know that like, she just is unveil is she's, have you seen her recently live and all?

I saw her like a year and a half ago. Okay. But I heard, I heard the movie that she's been talking

about being asked to do. She finally came because there's someone in my podcast actually is also

works with Jed Apatow and was talking about about that. Her doc. Yeah. I have friends who went,

I we covered the film festivals and a couple of friends of mine went to Sundance and they saw it

and they said it was great. They said the doc was great. But here's something unbelievable that she

is just now sort of like announcing on stage and use and actually, you know, doing bringing it

up on stage and talking about it. She's getting divorced. She. No. Yes. Yes. She closed with that.

Like she came out. She's like, I'm getting divorced. And I'm at the end of the set. And I'm like,

are you and it's not a joke. It's real. Like she and Jeff are getting divorced. And I was just,

I was devastated. And he's a huge part of her life. And obviously a huge part of this documentary,

which is coming out. But it was fascinating to watch. And Jackie Cation was her opening. Do you

know Jackie? I don't, but she's like really good. Yeah. And she is, we went to her merch table

afterwards to buy like a couple of shirts from her. We went to her merch table and we were like,

oh, you know, you were great. Your set was great. And Maria set was great. And the first thing she

said was did she talk about the divorce? We go. Yes. What part of the set did she put it in? I have

no idea why she was. She was like, it's at the end. She's like, okay, good. That's where she was

workshopping it. I'm like, okay, she's workshopping her divorce. So. But yeah. So Maria Bamford,

then that's it. That's she's she's amazing. Yeah. She is great. All right. Well, listen,

so do you have some of the shows going to run 90 minutes on, on, on, yes. Yes. 90 minute,

no op, no intermission of nonstop fun. All right. Yeah. So you're going to love it. I recommend

anyone who wants to just laugh. Yeah. And I love the subtitle of it. It's the misfit variety show.

Comedy show for weirdos, rebels, and the misunderstood. Thank you. And you know what we had,

we, you know, because this is so sad, we had to do that because people were like, what's misfit?

Hey, wait a minute, because we're in a place where being different is like a huge deal now. Yeah.

Yeah. So I realized after a show when people were trying to like fill out, we have this like

audience submission for him. Yeah. And people were like, wait, what's a misfit, though? And then like,

wait. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Well, tell them about this, tell them about this network that we're on.

Yes. Oh, yeah. So it's Friday, March 13th, this Friday, doors, doors at nine o'clock show at nine

30. Yeah. It's at the annoyance theater. Is there a specific place where people can get tickets

or website or anything like that? Yeah. You could go to the annoyance theater website. And they

have a right there. Also, if you want to see like more of the vibe of the show, go to my website,

Lauren Lojuda-Jay, just kidding. It's Lauren that's never did that to you. It's Lauren

Loji, L-O-G-I, LaurenLoji.com. Right. And also on Instagram, Lauren Loji, and misfit

Friday show, misfit Friday shows on Instagram. And we have like lots of pictures there to get a sense

of what it is. Yeah, she get a sense of what it is. We talked about this the last time you came

to town and it's fantastic stuff. That's Lauren Loji, that's L-A-U-R-E-N-L-O-G-I, LaurenLoji.com.

And you can also get tickets at the annoyance theater. Again, it's this Friday, the 13th,

doors at nine, show at nine, 30 annoyances located at 851 West Belmont in the heart of Chicago,

the misfit variety show. What a pleasure it is to talk to you, Lauren. And I hope you have a great

time while you're here in Chicago. And I hope a ton of people come to your show. Yeah, absolutely.

I hope you can make it. Let me know. Yeah, I'll let you know. Yeah, I might be free on Friday night.

I've got a busy weekend because of the I'm a movie critic, me Oscars. And I have a thing that I'm

doing on Oscars Sunday during the day and the weekend is going to be kind of crazy. But maybe

maybe the 13th I can get out. Misfit variety show. Thank you. Thank you so much. Friday, March 13th,

the annoyance theater on Belmont. All right, Lauren. Thanks very much. Okay, thanks. All right, take

care. There you go. That's Lauren Lojiudice. And she's great. And you can hear her podcast right here

at Radio Misfit's podcast network. And her podcast is called Misfit's Making It. So check it out. And

also go to the annoyance theater this Friday the 13th for a misfit variety show, which is a showcase

for Weirdos, Rebels, the misunderstood, brings everybody together at a time when we all need to

be together. So my thanks to Lauren. Cool. That's standing. All right, you know what time it is. It's

time to talk to Dan Feinberg about TV. Dan Fein, Feinberg. Dan Feinberg. And now all the way from

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He is the TV critic for the Hollywood Reporter. He also has a blog and a website there connected

with all the Dan Feinberg stuff that you can find there. And that's the fine print F-I-E-N.

And let's say hello to Dan Feinberg. Hello, Dan. Hello, Nick. How are you, sir?

I'm doing okay. How about you? Not bad. Do you deal with the daylight saving? Does that ever

affect you at all? It affects me. It affects me mostly positively because basically I spend so much

of my morning working and my afternoon working that I really, really try to get out for a walk

every evening. And basically that means that there are six months of the year where I am walking

largely in the darkness. And it's not as if LA drivers are particularly good on the best case

of scenarios. So basically I feel like my chances of getting run down in a crosswalk are slightly

worse when the days are longer. So I'm happy with this. I see it as a sign of maturation because

for a long time I used to be very resentful of that one hour of lost sleep on Sunday. And I was

like, ah, it's so horrible. It's the worst thing. And now I'm perfectly happy to give up that one

hour of sleep to get a little bit extra daytime. So I'm a grown-up or something to that effect.

It's funny because like, it used to affect me, well, it used to affect me well because

you know, I'm a recovering alcoholic. So it used to affect me because it's an hour less of

drinking on a Saturday night, which used to bother me. And as a bartender as well, I'd be like,

man, come on. And then we gain it all back in October. But anyway, now for some reason,

like, I'm just tired. Like last night, as we record this, it's the Monday following the,

the, you know, that we've had like a full day now of it. And Sunday night last night, I was like

around 830. I'm like, man, I am white. And I did nothing. It was a Sunday where I did nothing.

Like I just sat on the, sat on the couch and I watched some TV and I was staying at my

girlfriends and she has a dog. I walked, I walked a dog twice. That's all I did. And at 830,

I was like, man, I am wiped out. And I just, I attributed to the, to the time change.

I mean, I was feeling that way all of last week leading up to Sunday. So I guess I can attribute

that to pre-anxiety related to the time change. I, I don't know if there's, I don't know if it's

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time and that's the modern, and that is the modern condition. So there it is. Well, yes, I can

understand that we live in a, we live in a world right now where everybody feels exhausted. I think,

well, a lot of people do. We live in, we live in draining times. I don't know. Honestly, I don't,

I don't care what your ideology is. If you can't find a reason to be drained at this exact moment,

I know. I just don't understand what your, yeah. I agree. What your view of the world was. It wasn't,

it wasn't shocking that I was wiped. You know what I mean? I was just like, oh, and so I just

was like, it's got to be the time change. I don't know. Who knows? What we're here now. It's good to have

things to blame the exhaustion on rather than just general malaise. So, yes. All right. Well,

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So there you go. All right. Well, we got a lot to jump in here. Let me just first say that I,

we talked about a couple of shows. You reviewed a couple of shows that we're going to debut

after. And I am, I actively dislike the Scrubs reboot, except for Vanessa Bear.

At least that part was predictable. Yeah. So that I was not, and I guess I'm going to why,

I don't know. I've got another one on my DVR. I haven't really gone back to why. I mean, I guess I'll

watch it. But I found myself being very annoyed by it, very, very annoyed by it. It's okay. Part of,

it has to be said, that they made a stupid decision that I don't understand regarding bringing

JD back into the fold. And since the episodes have premiered, we can spoil this. There also

isn't really a spoiler. The strangeness wherein they decided to have JD basically take

Cox's position as the chief of medicine at this hospital, despite his having no qualifications

for what is largely a leadership and administrative position at a major hospital. Why did they do that?

I just don't know why they thought that the solution to get JD back in the hospital was,

let's give him a job he doesn't deserve. And then barely discuss it rather than, he gets a job

at the hospital. It's not hard. He's a teacher. You know, bring him in. But so that was the thing

that really hurts me about how they set up the... That was one of the many things that

hurt me about it. I guess I'm just like, since Scrubs, the Zach Braff thing, he just annoys me now.

Entirely reasonable. And that concept is idiotic and it doesn't really work. And

some of the younger people are, I think, I think are good performers. There are some people on it

that are kind of taking the place of the younger JD, you know. Sure. And I think they're charming.

There are some very, very talented and charming people who don't really have much written for them

to do outside of like being sort of cliched. And then, you know, Vanessa Bear comes in,

does something really funny and walks away. And that's kind of the entire show.

Without it really being clear what her job actually is. Because it shifts over the course of

four episodes that I've seen. It's not like it shifts dramatically, but it absolutely,

it's kind of an HR job, but then it isn't an HR job. It's hard to tell what exactly her job is.

But as you say, come in, make a funny for one scene, and I'm fine with that. Like, I will

watch her do anything. So I'm okay with that. But yeah. And then the other one is that regidinkins,

the regidinkins. Okay. The fall the fall and rise of yeah, it's to do. Do the karlock,

any of you to who's behind this one? I know it is, it is karlock and one of the regular

collaborators within the franchise,

but Tina Fey is executive producer also.

Do they vary at all in anything they do?

I mean, it's because it's the same,

you know, like, it's the same beats,

it's written in the same way.

It's, I mean, with the exception of the,

and the thing is that they get really good people.

That's the thing.

It's like, you know,

Tina Fey and Karlock and these people,

they recycle the same beats and bits and writing style

over and over and over again.

To the point where it's just not, you know,

where it's like, okay, God, I see where it's coming.

I see, I can predict every single thing

that's gonna happen and everything that they write.

But Moynihan is great.

And Daniel Radcliffe is, as far as I'm concerned,

Daniel Radcliffe is the show.

And it's better than Scrubs.

But it's just recycled.

It's the, these guys, they do the same thing

in different settings.

But the different settings are supposed to be

where the different tone comes from.

And the slightly, and the slightly different things.

You're, I mean, there's no question

that their rhythms are their rhythms.

And if you have seen one of their shows,

you absolutely know what every cut away

is gonna feel like,

whether you get the exact joke or not is secondary.

But you know, you know every cadence, every cut,

you can feel it in your bones.

There's no question about that.

I think that probably, you know, look,

you look at girls five ever

that had the musical backdrop.

And so the songs were a differentiating factor.

And the cast was a differentiating factor

with Mr. Mayor.

It was the political in the cast.

That was a factor with great news.

There was, you know, basically everyone

has had a slightly different backdrop.

But there's no question that things are similar.

And I get, and you know, that might be just like,

maybe it's just, obviously it's a matter of taste.

Because so many creators of television shows

do the same thing and have the same style.

I mean, that's just it, you know,

but for some reason, I just get kind of like,

oh man, like every, I don't know.

For some reason, I'm like, man, you get a great cast

and you're just doing the same stuff.

I don't know.

Look, it has limitations.

I do think it gets better.

How many episodes have you watched?

Just the two.

Okay, so I thought that the third and fourth episodes

were better than the first and second episodes.

That's how much I've been.

You did say that when we talked last.

You know, look, there is more establishing

that they choose to do than is absolutely necessary

because it's not actually all that complicated

of premise.

And so the first episode is almost completely establishing

stuff that really probably didn't need

to be established at all.

The second episode is getting a little bit more

into the rhythms.

And then the third and fourth episode

they're feeling semi comfortable in the rhythms.

That's what I've seen.

I will, this is when I'll keep watching,

as opposed to a lot of shows where I'm like,

okay, fine, I got it.

But no, this I'll keep watching.

I'll keep watching it.

It took me a long time to stop watching the mayor show.

Like I watched it long past, it's when I should have.

And then I stopped watching it.

But this one, I mean, I'll continue to watch it

because I mean, look, Tracy Morgan is funny

even though he does what he's doing exactly the same.

You know, as he's, he's Tracy Morgan.

So that's what he does and that's fine.

But I mean, I really think Daniel Radcliffe is funny.

I've always, I mean, I'm a big than Meyer of that guy.

I just think he's great and I watch him do anything

and I think he's terrific and I love Bobby Moynihan.

So those are the two things about it

that keep me interested.

I think Eric Alexander is excellent.

And I think that she's kind of an underutilized resource.

And I think, of course, I'm sorry, yes.

And the first episode she's completely unused

and so that's not appealing.

The second episode they get a lot more for her to do.

And subsequently she has more to do.

And I think she's kind of essential to the grounding

of the show, which, you know, is essential also.

Look, it's not great, but I do like the rhythms

that the writers have.

And so, yeah, it's okay.

And as a broadcast show goes,

it's worth watching for a handful more episodes.

So I will definitely do that.

And I mean, I'm gonna watch it.

I just, you know, I mean, I will watch that one

pretty regularly.

Scrubs is gonna be like, that one's gonna take me

a little while to get motivated to get.

It's a cool one.

And that's what we're also seeing for

and it doesn't appreciably approve,

approve, approve.

But it's just imagine it.

At some point, it simply is what it is

and you either want to embrace it or not.

Yeah, okay.

So we, a couple of episodes of SNL have air

since the last time we spoke.

Your thoughts on those?

Let's see.

So okay, we had Connor's story

and we had Ryan Gosling, right?

Yes.

So okay, Ryan Gosling at this point,

the game is you bring Ryan Gosling in

and you attempt to make him crack.

And he does because it's very easy.

And also, apparently it's very easy

to make Ashley Padilla break with Ryan Gosling.

So I feel like that was basically the tone

of this week's episode was Ryan Gosling

and Ashley Padilla Giggle.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I found it entertaining.

But I mean, well, so the, okay,

I have to say the sketch with the passing of the notes.

Uh-huh.

Which I laughed my ass off during it.

They've never, ever done anything like that.

Yeah, it's an improv exercise more than it was actually

a sketch and that was exactly what it was.

It definitely felt strange

that they chose to do that.

It did.

Well, here's the thing, they've done it

but they've never announced it to the audience.

Like, Stefan is, that's what Mulaney would do.

Oh, and we can update it.

It's a regular thing.

Exactly.

Of course, but like this time when they put the thing

on the, when they put the notice on the screen,

I was like, what?

I'm, what's watching this?

Yes, these, these have changed since rehearsal

and I'm like, you're, wow, okay.

All right.

Well, the thing is though with that,

with how did though, like they didn't need to tell you that,

but if they didn't tell you that,

then you probably would watch the sketch

and you'd have no idea what the sketch actually was.

Like you take that away, there was no sketch.

Yeah.

And so they had to let people know what the game was.

Right.

But yeah, as you say, it's not a thing

that they feel the need to do constantly.

And like, you know, because no doubt,

there are plenty of sketches where you could say,

this bit was improvised and it's,

it's odd for them to tip their hand on what it is.

Yeah.

I mean, I found it entertaining.

I laughed at it.

I especially, I mean, I, you know, Ashley Padilla,

well, at this point, she's the MVP, I think, at this point.

But watching her, I mean, the, the one note about, like,

ChatBee, ChatBeeT just saying, no, that was really funny.

And so yeah.

But yeah, I mean, Gosling cracking up.

And like, clearly, at the beginning,

the big musical number with the Harry Styles thing,

which I thought was funny.

And by the way, I've seen Project Hail Mary.

Uh-huh.

It's great.

It's, okay, it's really great.

Like, really, really great.

And so like, I'm like on a high watching it,

because I had just seen it like two days earlier

and I was like, oh, this is great.

And I like Ryan Gosling very much.

And the opening, you know, but it was very clear

that Mikey Day was not supposed to kiss him

at the beginning and he broke, you know, and, uh, you know,

and so, you know, so, and the whole, like, the, the,

the sketch after the, after the monologue

with the clinking of the glasses, I laughed at that.

No, that one was terrific.

That one, I thought was great.

And there was actually a character that he was playing there.

And so I was okay with it, uh,

though that was very clearly another, though,

where I'm not sure that, that, like, I think he was reading

off the cue cards.

And I think the cue card might have changed

from what he thought he was getting.

Like, he seemed, he seemed as amused

by what he was getting to say as the sketch,

which, which again, totally amusing and that one

and that one was a good one.

Um, uh, the Cyclops sketch also was entirely just about

getting Ashley Padilla to break.

So that made me laugh too.

I don't know.

And then, and then for him to come out and introduce

the gorilla still in the Cyclops makeup was excellent.

I thought that was super, but yeah,

V2, um, and I thought that the, you know, the, uh,

I, I, I laughed a little bit even though it's like now

become a thing.

I laughed, uh, at the Willy Wonka thing where that was,

that was funny.

It was funny, but they, but that's like a thing now.

It's like they make these, they make these short films where

it just suddenly people are, there's violence

and there's blood flying all over the place.

That's a thing they do all the time now.

Absolutely.

Which is fine with me because I think that's funny.

So I laughed at that.

I thought the, uh, was it, was it not olympic?

Oh, Tesla.

Oh, that was funny.

I thought that was really funny and really clever.

Um, what, I think one of the best written sketches of the night.

Was that?

No, I laughed at that one, though it was at least 50%, uh,

super happy fun ball.

Yeah, oh, yeah, and, and so, which, which is an all-time

classic and that's totally fine, but, but, but that was sort

of the implication of it.

Kind of the ascribing of, uh, of dangerous personality traits

to an in on animate object.

I thought that was based on similar things.

No, no, I laughed very hard at that one.

There's no question.

And that one also was very clearly written

by the same person who wrote the loose, uh, sketch as well.

Yeah.

There is someone whose sensibility that is on the writing staff

who I totally am down with.

So whoever it is, I'm good with that person.

But, but yes, that was a good one.

And, um, I laughed at the, um, uh, well, let's see.

I mean, what we talked about the, the, I'm trying to take

with the other.

There was the good, there was the Google Man, which was,

which was just sort of odd and then you kept waiting

for it to become something else and it didn't really.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, and then, you know, and, uh, I mean, update was short.

Um, uh, and some of it was funny.

I, I, I actually laughed at, uh, at the Reverend thing.

Um, can, can, can, can, can it does this thing?

Can it does this thing?

But also, like, I laughed really hard at James Austin Johnson, okay.

I don't know what the hell he was doing, but it made me laugh.

And so, uh, so overall, I thought it was, I thought it was a solid

episode.

And obviously, you know, like, I mean, it depends on people's

patience with, like, breaking.

And also the guerrillas that was great.

That was sharp, those were fantastic.

Very good.

And then the fact that you actually see them was cool.

You know, like, that was everything about it.

The fact that they played Clint Eastwood, I was like, Oh, okay.

I didn't expect that.

So I thought that was cool.

So I, I, I thought this last episode was very entertaining.

And I like Ryan Gosling.

So even with the flaws, I laughed a lot during it last week's episode.

However, I'm sorry.

Oh, okay.

No, with the guerrillas, I was just going to say that with the guerrillas,

the decision to play Clint Eastwood was a little odd to me.

And I kind of wondered if it was an accommodation kind of situation where it

was like, okay, the second number we're playing is largely Cittar.

So, yeah.

So, so will you give us permission to do the largely Cittar second thing if

we bring in Del, Del, Del, the Funky Homo Sapien and we do Clint Eastwood,

the song that everyone knows.

And I feel as if probably that's a negotiation thing where it's one for us,

one for you.

I think you're right.

That's my guess.

Yeah.

I think you're right.

Because the second song they played is brand new and I mean,

they're kicking off their tour and all that, but to start off with Clint Eastwood,

I was like, okay, that's, I didn't expect it.

I was shocked.

I was like, oh, okay.

You know, in the fact that they were in front of the screen, you know, was really cool.

No, it was a, it was a, it was a well orchestrated, well-produced performance,

both of them.

Okay.

So we're really what a solid, a solid episode.

I laughed a lot during it and I love Ryan Gosling and I like guerrillas.

So it was good week before I was a train wreck, I thought.

It was a mess, but I thought there was good stuff in it.

What would, which, because I think I laughed a few times, but, but I'm trying to remember now.

Oh, I thought the, I thought Connor stories performance on the critically injured stripper sketch

was, was an outrageously good physical performance.

Yeah.

I thought it was, I thought that was as as Gung Ho and off-kilter a physical performance

as you, as I can imagine a host giving.

And not, and not just because you had the audience cheering and whooping and laughing

for everything he was doing, even as the character was spurting blood and stuff,

you know, it was, it was like, yeah, take your top off person whose body is

yes, no, rolled and destroyed.

No, I thought that was, I thought that was great.

I'm trying to think if there were other things, there were, there were a couple

of things where I thought that Connor's story was participating aggressively.

Well, no, listen, I think he came to play.

I think he was terrific.

I'm not, I'm not saying he was, he was his, it was his fault because it wasn't.

I just thought the writing was terrible.

No, it was, it was, it was not a consistent episode.

There's no question, but it, but it also had, it also had punched the monkey in his

mom.

Oh, yeah, I am, I am extremely tolerant to punch the monkey in his mom.

So, yeah, there were, there were things Sarah.

So it is Sarah.

So that, it's, that goes without saying.

I mean, I mean, if I remember correctly, both, both update desk bits were good that

week.

And I thought update was strong.

It was the rest of the show that I had kind of problems with.

But yeah, I was, I was just like, you know, like this guy is really, because I'm not,

I mean, you know, the heated rival is the only place that I know this guy from,

obviously, I think he'll replace anyone knows him from anyone knows him from.

And I was like, I was impressed.

I was like, oh, this guy's great.

You know, like he's, you know, he's rare and to do anything.

And he's, he really is a good sketch performer.

I wish they would have written something good for him.

Definitely, definitely, there were a lot of kind of half baked sketches for him, unfortunately.

But again, I, I thought he tried hard and I thought it was, I thought it was a really convincing

argument that he really could be a kind of chameleonic actor, which I, you know,

I don't know that you would necessarily know.

I mean, otherwise, if you knew that he, basically everyone thinks of him as being Russian

from heated rivalry and he, of course, is from Texas.

So if you have that piece of information to your disposal already, you know,

that he's very good at getting into characters.

No, I, I thought the stripper sketch was, was a crazy piece of physicality.

And it was another one where, uh, and, and again, I feel bad about this because at the

beginning of the season, I questioned Jane Wickline's ability to play normal characters.

And, and I apologize so sincerely for that because he has been so good when she gets,

I mean, not normal, but quote unquote normal.

And I thought her performance in that sketch.

Oh, opposite him was my favorite, she was my favorite thing in the sketch.

And no, she, she got every punchline she had in that sketch.

Yeah, sold so nailed it.

Also, it was, I thought it was, I also thought, uh, in the, uh, the wedding sketch from

the other night where they played brother and sister, yes, her reaction.

I thought was very fun.

And what they put her like the clothing they put her into.

No, she was, she was very funny in that, uh, no question.

Okay.

And then we got Harry Styles next week.

So, um, now, can you remember an example of the show as aggressively teasing the following

weeks episode as they did in this one?

Like what was Harry Styles doing that he was there and people, I guess people, I guess

people just love Harry Styles, I guess, um, and, you know, but judging by the audience

reaction, every time they showed him, um, no, no, there's no question people, but, but

does Harry Styles simply enjoy SNL that much?

That's the question I have.

And also there's a time available to them.

Well, yeah, there's also what it also was, it also worked as a dual plug because it,

because that song is prominently featured in Project Hail Mary.

Um, okay.

So the, the, the sign of the time song, okay, uh, it's, it's featured in Project Hail

Mary twice.

So, um, it also worked as like, Hey, this guy's hosting next week.

Oh, yeah, it's also in my movie.

So, but he didn't say that and the movie doesn't come out for two weeks.

That seems like a real, like that, that is not an inside joke.

That's a joke for, uh, he doesn't say it.

He said it in the, Ryan Gosling said it in the monologue.

Oh, wait, what, oh, did he say that before he starts singing the song?

He's like, Oh, now I got to sing this song because it's, because it's in my movie.

He said it's in, Oh, okay.

He said it's in my movie.

And now I got to sing it in front of this guy.

And then before they started, you know, when all the aliens came out and started

sing with him, uh, he did say it's in the movie.

And it is in the movie, um, fair enough.

Yeah.

I'm, I'm looking forward to seeing the movie someday.

It's a really good movie.

Really, really good.

Try to see it on the biggest screen possible if you can.

So if I can, we'll see you can.

Okay.

All right.

Well, there we go.

We wrap that up and, and, uh, top chef starts, uh, well, it started last night.

I didn't watch it.

But you have seen, you've seen the first episode, just the first.

I have seen just the first episode of, uh, top chef Carolina's Carolina.

Yeah.

Um, I would say that it is a good start, not a great start.

It's a, it's a, it's nice to have top chef back.

Yeah.

Is what I would say.

And so, you know, they're kind of easing into the new location.

And, uh, so the first episode has a lot of, a lot of NASCAR racing because,

you know, basically in the same way that they did in Canada and, et cetera.

They, they like to lean into the stereotyping.

And that is, uh, the, the geographic stereotyping is a thing they do.

Uh, but yeah.

No, good to have top chef back.

Now the question is, uh, did you watch America's culinary cup?

I have not.

I have not.

It, it's another show that I, I talked about in my newsletter last week.

It's very odd because it's so clearly just a top chef rip off.

There's no getting past that.

It's a top chef rip off with the, with Padma's the host, too.

With Padma's the host, but basically just doing Padma things.

It's not like it's a different version of Padma.

It's, it's, it's totally top chef host Padma.

Uh, and okay, you're not going to like it.

And you shouldn't watch it.

Don't watch it, Nick, because it has Buddha on it.

Oh, God.

Okay.

So I, I, I, I forgot that you weren't going to want to watch it to begin with.

It has Buddha.

Is he a regular and like, oh, no, he's, he's a, he's a, no, he's a contestant.

He's, he's, he's part of the contestant field.

And every, and everybody is kind of, well, the, the point is supposed to be

that everybody on the show is of a slightly higher level than top chef.

I don't think that actually comes through in any way, uh, in the show that, you know,

because they're like, ooh, this person has a Michelin star and this person, whatever.

And, and Buddha has, has one top chef twice and Nick DeGilio hates him.

And they, they specifically called out your hatred for Buddha.

Okay.

Okay.

I don't know.

No, I believe the phrasing was despite the fact that Nick DeGilio doesn't like him.

He's one top chef twice.

Uh, so, okay, so you don't need to watch, but it's still, it's the kind of show where

if there weren't a top chef season happening, I would be like, absolutely.

I can watch this because they're making pretty food and it's Padman.

It's great, but the idea that they decided to premiere it basically

simultaneous top chef season, someone must have thought that was, uh, that was

a tricky and, and fun piece of counter programming.

I think it was a dumb piece of counter programming.

Because really just, it doesn't work on the same level.

I'll probably watch a couple more episodes of it.

But I was, I tuned in to see if there was an appreciable and clear reason why

after having left top chef three years later, she comes back.

Yeah.

Basically as the host of a food, of a food competition show, right?

Was there going to be something different?

And the answer is not particularly.

And what, for people who, what, what's, uh, what's, uh, network is it?

It's on, it's on CBS.

And so that means it's the kind of show that I will definitely only watch, uh,

on Paramount Plus so I can avoid the commercials.

Uh, and, and yeah, so I think I'll, I think I'll stick with it for a couple

of weeks because really I do appreciate having that kind of, uh, turn off my brain,

uh, cooking competition show.

Yeah, but yeah, it's not, not enough that it's clearly different to make it.

Okay.

I'm, I'm curious, but now that I know who does on it, I'm just gonna be like, oh,

and, and as the, and as the, no, and as the featured contestant, like he walks

in the room and everyone goes, oh, it's Buddha.

He's one top chef twice, um, and, and then, and then he cooks and he does,

and he does one of his Buddha.

This looks simple, but through the magic of molecular gastronomy,

it will be magical and everyone goes, ooh, magical, et cetera.

So if you are not a fan of Buddha and the deification of Buddha,

then you probably do not want to watch it.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah.

But top chef, uh, it just, does Tom wear any funny hats on the first episode?

I'm trying to.

Okay, Tom has lost a lot of weight.

Oh, really, um, which as, as always, in these cases in Hollywood,

we simply go ozampic, uh, but, but yes, Tom has lost a lot of weight.

I'm trying to remember if he wears a hat because probably he should.

Like really, they do this whole, the opening thing is this NASCAR, uh,

challenge, yeah.

And it's everyone complains about the heat and then you watch the rest of the

episode and absolutely everybody got a sunburn in the episode.

And you kind of wonder, did no one want to go through and tell a couple of

them to wear hats or put on sunscreen?

Apparently not.

So, so that was my favorite thing about the second half of the episode is who's

the most sunburned, but so now, so because it's only been one episode,

obviously they haven't, they haven't done last chance kitchen then.

They, they, um, no spoilers.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Okay.

All right.

Well, I will, I will, I will watch last night's episode.

Excellent.

And regular listeners know that, uh, that for the next, um, next couple of

months, we will be regularly talking about top chefs.

So, so everyone should just make sure they, they keep caught up.

That's right.

Keep catching up with the top chef.

So it makes me happy that it's back.

So there's sure.

Cool.

All right.

Uh, let's talk a little bit about some of the other things that you reviewed.

Uh, rooster.

Steve Carell, tell me, tell me about this.

Well, okay.

So speaking of, uh, you know, we talked about Reggie Dinkins and people's

cadences and rhythms and all of that, if you have been watching Bill Lawrence

TV shows recently, and that also includes scrubs, though his actual

involvement in the scrubs reboot, I'm not sure how hands on it is like he

wasn't a credited writer.

He's not the showrunner.

None of that.

But obviously he created the original show.

So he has involvement, uh, but if you watch shrinking, if which everyone

should, because it's great, if people have watched Ted Lasso, and just if

you know kind of the Bill Lawrence formula at this point, rooster feels

very Bill Lawrence E, uh, to the point that you watch a bunch of the

character interactions and you go, well, that's just this person doing

this thing from that show.

And then you have John C. McGinley and you're like, okay, it's basically him

doing, uh, Dr. Cox from scrubs, et cetera, et cetera.

So, um, and unfortunately that leaves the show feeling unformed.

So for people who didn't watch it, um, Steve Carell plays a, a best

selling, uh, genre fiction writer, basically he does kind of tough guy

pulp fiction with an alter ego character, uh, named rooster.

And he's, he's not like that character.

And that's the gimmick is that the character is kind of an introvert.

He's sort of socially anxious, but his, his alter ego is blustery and

gets all the women.

And he comes to a college where his daughter is teaching and, uh, gets

offered a job as writer in residence and spoiler alert, he eventually

decides to take that job.

And so in the process, he kind of experiences the college life he never

had because he didn't go to college for reasons that are explained

eventually in the series, et cetera, et cetera.

And it's a, it's a very good cast, uh, Danielle deadwiler, who I think

is always fantastic and fantastic in just everything.

She's got a, she's got a supporting performance that really and

truly, her character is much more interesting than any of the main

characters and it, it's unfortunate that no one just said, let's

make her the focus of the show, uh, it could be because Hollywood

kind of keeps treating Danielle deadwiler as, as I don't know,

supporting making other things better, rather than being the star of

the show.

And this is why I'm really very excited about the Ryan Kugler, uh,

update reboot of the ex files in which she is going to be one of the

two leads.

So, you know, maybe that will be the vehicle she deserves.

Uh, but yeah, it's, it's a very, very good supporting cast, uh, the,

the daughter of the main character is played by Charlie Clive, his British

actor, uh, she was in the dark comedy, pure, which was very good.

She's very good.

Her husband is played by Phil Dunster, who is Jamie Tarte from, uh,

Ted Lasso, less good because basically what they realized on Ted Lasso

was that Phil Dunsters are really, really, uh, charming actor and that

you can make a character really unappealing and he'll allow you to get

away with it because he's charming.

And so for this, they kind of push even further and it doesn't work as

well.

Uh, but then there are a lot of great supporting performances.

So, uh, Robbie Hoffman, who's always great and absolutely everything is,

is there in a kind of supporting role, uh, Scott McArthur, who some

people will remember from the Mick is there in a very supporting role.

He's very good, but the show itself to me just doesn't come together.

And the truth is that, that Bill Lawrence shows often don't immediately come

together because he often starts off with these big swing premises that he

then backs away from and it just becomes great ensemble comedy.

And so you look at something like Cougar Town, uh, many people tuned out

Cougar Town because of the title, because of the initial premise.

Is it just going to be Courtney Cox dating younger men every week, et cetera?

That ended up not being the premise of the show in any way.

It just ended up being how they started the show.

But it's how Bill Lawrence shows work, unfortunately, is that they kind of,

okay, it's, it's here's the excuse that's going to bring everybody together.

And then at some point we aren't going to need to worry about it anymore.

And unfortunately, they haven't gotten after the six episodes I've seen

six out of eight episodes, uh, have been sent out or maybe it's eight out of 10.

In any case, I haven't seen the full season, but I've seen a lot of the season.

And so far, it is a show that is too hung up on its premises and not settled

into itself enough.

But if you give me at some point, uh, Steve Carell, Daniel, deadwiler, uh,

Charlie Clive, John C. McGinley, Robbie Hoffman, Connie Britton in a guest role,

et cetera, you give me all of those people and just have them hang out.

At some point, that will become a decent show.

I just don't know.

It just doesn't feel like it's anywhere close to there.

Yes.

Okay.

Uh, and that's HBO.

And then what was the last time HBO premiered two big shows like in, in a week or two?

Um, they, well, they like to make sure that they have things that are leading into

each other.

So that, that's always the way that HBO likes to perform.

If they have to do half hours, then they want to have them performing at roughly the

same time in the schedule because one leads into the other.

And so I would, I would say it's reasonably free.

Okay.

Cause I usually, I don't know why, because it, for me, it's always like whenever HBO premieres

something that's new, it usually leads into something that's already established in my,

you know, uh, maybe, maybe I'm remembering, I'm missing remembering it.

But that's, you know, like, oh, we've got Game of Thrones, but here's a new show before

it or both.

And if, and if that's what their development slate is looking like at that minute, then,

yeah, I just think that at this minute, they, they don't have as many established hits

as they have at some points.

So, you know, they, and they would obviously simply like for a couple of these to also

hit.

Well, I will, I have not watched this yet, but I'm really curious about it.

One of the reasons why I'm curious about this is Steve Conrad, Chicago and, um, good

dude, by the way, um, is the guy who created the show, um, called DTF St. Louis.

Um, and I'm not a big, I also, I, there's, there is somebody in this cast who now tries

my patients and that's David Harbor.

Uh, but I love Jason Bateman, even though he's in everything, um, and I love Linda Cartelini,

and I love Steve Conrad, so, and I've not watched this yet, but what are your thoughts

on this?

Well, at this point, Jason Bateman tries my patients.

I think also David Harbor does as well, like of the main stars, Linda Cartelini is the

golden one at this moment, who does not in any way, uh, um, gotcha.

Test my patients.

I will, I will watch Linda Cartelini do anything and, yeah, I'm kind of, I think I'm,

I think I'm in the same, but I have, I think I like Jason Bateman.

I have more patients with Jason Bateman than you do.

I have, I've also, I've also suck with and watched a lot of episodes of Jason Bateman

shows that you haven't needed.

That's true.

So, yeah, I gave up on Ozark long before you did.

So, so if you didn't watch Ozark, if you didn't watch Black Rabbit, I did watch Black

Rabbit.

Oh, did you?

Okay.

Well, I did.

There you go.

Ah, Black Rabbit.

I had issues with it, but I watched it.

You know, it definitely had some things going for it, but generally, not a very good

show.

I got you.

I'm with you.

Yeah.

I'm not going to argue that with you, but yeah.

And, and Steve Conrad is, uh, he's, he's peculiar.

Yes.

Yes.

And, and he's, and, and I think DTF St. Louis is also peculiar.

Look, I, I just talked about how, uh, we were only sent three quarters of a season of

rooster, and it's possible that rooster could come together.

Normally, ideally, we get sent every episode of a cable or streaming show, and it allows

me to say this is what the shape of the season is, and I can tell you that this is good.

With DTF St. Louis, we've only been sent four out of the seven episodes.

And to me, I, I had, I found my review of this one extremely difficult to, uh, to write,

because the show's overall quality is going to depend completely on those last three episodes.

Uh, because the first couple of episodes kind of established the, the premise, and they

established it in this wacky way, and the premise is that, uh, that Jason Bateman plays

a St. Louis area, weatherman, and David Harbor plays his ASL translator, and they strike

up an unusual friendship, but then Jason Bateman's character suggests an app called DTF St.

Louis, basically, basically a partner swapping app, mostly because he wants to have an affair

with, uh, David Harbor's wife played by Linda Cartelini.

And, and there's a lot of kind of, uh, this is wacky, uh, our title has a bad word in

it.

And a lot of that.

And then after two episodes or so, the tone shifts to something more earnest.

And if people have seen Stephen Conrad shows, he has that kind of, um, cynical dark side,

and then he has a very, very sentimental streak as well.

And when it works well, like I think Amazon's Patriot is an example of a show that blends

sensibilities extremely well, but also anyone who is attempted to watch Patriot knows

it's a really tough show to watch.

Either you, either you get the vibe of that show or you do not get the vibe of that

show and you'll be done within like 10 minutes.

And it was the same with his follow-up show, which was on what was epics then and became

MGM plus that was perpetual grace, which I loved.

And that one I couldn't get through.

I really just, for whatever reason, the sentiment, the sensibility at that moment did not

work for me, whereas Patriot the sensibility worked for me.

And I re-watched it.

I re-watched the first season three weeks ago and just parts of that show are dazzling.

And parts of it don't work, but the parts that work are just completely unique.

And so that's, that's intriguing.

With this, it doesn't have quite the degree of, I don't know, just the jarring

sensibilities that come together as something impressive, but it absolutely could.

Like after four episodes, there is a murder mystery that is carried through the whole

thing.

I don't really need to know anything else about a lot of the show.

I don't know what the last three episodes are.

The first four are premise establishing tone, reverse premise and establishing tone.

What does that mean the last three episodes are?

Yeah.

I'm really kind of wary.

I don't, I think there's a better chance than not that it's going to fall on its face,

but I can't review that.

But I think there's totally a chance it could, because I've seen other Steven Conrad

shows.

It could do something wonderful.

I can't review that either.

So, so I was intrigued.

I would tell people to check it out that it's not exactly the show.

It appears to be from the trailers that they've been running.

Yeah.

It's not exactly the show.

It appears to be from the first couple episodes.

So, okay.

All right.

But we let be a show that people like.

I don't know.

And again, I'm just not sure.

It could either stick the landing wonderfully or it could fall on its face and that is going

to be in the last three episodes.

Okay.

All right.

Well, I'm intrigued.

Well, I'm always intrigued by anything he does.

No, I'll be, I will be, I will be curious on your, on your thoughts.

I'll be curious on many people's thoughts, because it's definitely like, it's got the

stars and the stars will be the draw.

And that is how they've been promoting it on HBO.

It's with the, with the stars and with the salacious side of it.

I don't think that's what the show is.

And so, I think a lot of people are going to be alienated very quickly, which I think

is intentional with Stephen Conrad shows, but I just don't know what it's going to be.

And that's where I'm curious.

Okay.

All right.

Two, two, two definitely different types of shows on HBO right there.

Yeah.

And having those two shows back to back, having rooster and DT, they're not sensibilities

that really align together, honestly.

So, so we'll, we'll see.

And also, I feel like probably rooster is a much more generally accessible show, but who

knows?

We'll, we'll see what people think.

Okay.

All right.

Now we're moving on to, to, to, to, now, some, I, another, in the, in the, in the Buddha

category, someone I genuinely dislike, Guy Richie, has a new Amazon show, Young Sherlock.

So is this, is this like, do we get to see like Robert Downey now?

And then there's flashbacks?

No, no, no, it is, it is in no way connected to the Guy Richie Sherlock movies.

Okay.

But also, if you do not like Guy Richie, you will not, you will not, you just skip this.

Life goes on.

You, there is, there is no chance you will like a lot of people might be interested in.

It does have a couple of people in it that are absolutely pretty terrific.

It does.

It does.

So, so yeah, it, you know, look, it's, it's Young Sherlock.

So you basically know what the premise is, the premise is that Young Sherlock Holmes

has a, a 19 year old troublemaker played by hero finds Tiffin.

That would be Joseph and Ray finds his nephew.

There is the sister who is a director.

The sister is the mother.

So that is, that is how he fits into the, whatever.

And lots, lots of, if, if you like using the phrase Nepo Baby, you will love the show

because, because hero finds Tiffin plays Sherlock Holmes.

Minecraft Holmes is played by Jeremy Irons' son Max, who I have consistently found really

boring and wooden in things, but the interpretation of Minecraft that Guy Richie and his, and the

series creator Matthew Parkhill have is basically that Minecraft is basically a rigid

bureaucrat, which is a perfectly fine thing for an actor who is, is wooden and, and rigid.

So yeah, it's the, the party was born to play.

And so Sherlock's parents are played by Joseph finds and by Natasha McCleone, who I always

like, for no reason that I can figure out Colin Firth is in this show playing some guy

who shady, but there's absolutely no reason why it needs to be Colin Firth.

It is, in my, in my, in my, in my review, I speculated that somebody owed somebody a favor

or money.

There's, there's really no other justification why Colin Firth is going to take a sixth

leading role in an Amazon Muppet Baby Sherlock Holmes prequel.

Why on earth would you do that?

If you were all in Firth, unless you were doing somebody a favor or somebody was threatening

to break your fingers.

I don't know which.

So take your pick, but yeah, like it's, unfortunately, it is, while it is not directly connected

to the Robert Downey Jr. Sherlock Holmes.

And, and look, I am more tolerant of Guy Ritchie than you are in my review.

I said that basically everything he does is kind of on a spectrum of, of fun and dumb

and more stuff that he does than not ends up towards the dumb side, but some of it is the

fun side.

And that's okay.

And I will always kind of enjoy the fun side.

The first Sherlock Holmes movie, not a good movie, but perfectly entertaining.

The second Sherlock Holmes movie, not entertaining.

And therefore not a good movie, just a bad movie.

He's been doing a lot of TV lately.

He did an adaptation of the gentlemen for Netflix, which I thought was a very fun and

entertaining show.

He did mob land for Paramount Plus, which I thought was a bad show.

And so that's just how these things go.

And so he's, he's not a director who is capable of conveying intelligence.

And so the idea that he wants to do Sherlock Holmes stories is perplexing to me, because

he keeps professing in interviews how much he loves Sherlock Holmes as a character.

And then you watch the Sherlock Holmes movies and you watch young Sherlock and you go, I

don't fully understand based on these things what you think you like about Sherlock Holmes.

Because it's not anything resembling the character that I like.

So so this is kind of a Sherlock Holmes who does little smarty pants, parlor tricks,

and then gets into fights with people.

And and that's not what Sherlock Holmes is.

He's not a he's not a gets into fights with people hero.

Like to me, young Sherlock feels like Guy Richie's attempt to do something resembling

young Indiana Jones Chronicles.

It's it's he thinks of it as an action adventure franchise as opposed to a mystery who

done it franchise.

And they're they're different things to me.

It was I mean, was he do you think he was inspired by the Spielberg this Barry Levinson

thing from no because the Barry Levinson thing is also it's the Barry Levinson thing,

which I rewatched ahead of this.

I had definitely hadn't seen it since the mid 80s, but the Barry Levinson thing doesn't

work.

And the Barry Levinson thing is absolutely also it's Spielberg inspired.

It is an amp, you know, it's Spielberg executive produced it, memory serves and Christopher

Columbus wrote it, et cetera, et cetera.

But it comes closer to me to getting the spirit of what of what Sherlock Holmes is than

this does.

Okay.

This is this is teenage Sherlock meets teenage Moriarty and they get into hilarious

scrapes together and teenage Moriarty and Moriarty teaches Sherlock to fight.

And like that's not to me in any way resembling what interests me about the relationship between

Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty on the page.

And if you can't find and it's such as that they can't find the mystique that Arthur

Conan Doyle brings to those characters, but it actively demystifies characters where

the mystique is central to their relationship.

It's to me, it's actively damaging.

I found the middle of the show to be painful.

I found the beginning and end of the show to be closer to the fun side of the fun dumb

equation, but it's it's not good.

And if you are not a guy Richie fan, this is surely not the thing that will convince

you to be.

Okay.

All right.

Fair enough.

All right.

Anything the next time we talk, I mean obviously we talk about the Harry Styles SNL that

will be in the past.

There's there's a lot of stuff, things are obviously we'll do, we'll be doing the biweekly

top chef update.

Now what's coming up that you're interested?

Things are busy.

I think you'll probably want to check out sunny nights on Hulu, which you have not heard

about.

It is a Australian comedy, but it's an Australian comedy that stars Will Forte and Darcy

Carden as a pair of American siblings who go to Australia to market their spray-tanned

business and become involved with with Australian mobsters and run around Sydney basically trying

to avoid being killed while also selling their spray-tanned stuff.

I'm in.

That's all I'm in.

It's a dark comedy, it's an hour long comedy, which I think is a questionable choice.

I would say its rhythms are probably much closer to a 30 minute show and it probably overstays

its rhythm, but it's it's in kind of I'm trying to think of what it's like.

It's like killing it a show on peacock with Craig Robinson that nobody watched.

Right.

I know that show.

Okay.

It's a lot it's a lot like that show.

I don't think it's quite as good as that, but I think it's it's somewhat resembles that.

And so, but it's it's good it's a good Will Forte performance.

It's very much Will Forte underplaying and so, you know, Will Forte playing his ordinary

guy thing.

Right.

It's Bobkin on Netflix, which was a Will Forte show where he goes to Ireland with a podcasting

crew.

That to me, he kind of went too far towards the sincere side.

This the character is markedly comic, but also an every man comic character.

I think it's I think it's a I think it's a solid show.

It is not a great show, but I think if you're a fan of Will Forte, Darcy Carden and a

bunch of really good Australian actors, I think it's I think it's likeable.

And then otherwise just a lot of a lot of TV, a lot of what else is coming up.

There are several Apple TV crime shows coming up.

There are there's another Taylor Sheridan show on on Paramount Plus now wait, the Madison

right?

Is that the Madison?

That's Michelle Fyfer and Kurt Russell.

Exactly.

Two of my favorite people.

So I'm like, I'm going to watch this.

It's still a Taylor Sheridan show.

It was initially it was initially devised as a Yellowstone Companion show, but ultimately

the version that's premiering has no connection at all to Yellowstone, so you do not need to

worry about that if you if you don't have an interest.

It's an interesting show that they don't want critics to spoil the premise of it is very

Taylor Sheridan, which I mostly don't mean as a compliment.

But I think that Michelle Fyfer who is really the you know, Kurt Russell is absolutely in

it.

But Michelle Fyfer is really the lead.

That's cool.

That's cool.

And I think she and I think she is very good.

I think she has a good part.

I can't say any more than that because it's all embargoed.

But it's yeah, I don't we can talk about it more next time.

I don't feel like a lot of people are going to like it.

And without being able to spoil it, it's hard to talk about, but it's it's interesting

and some of the acting is good.

So anyway, well, there's plenty to talk about.

Everybody check out the fine print F I E N and Holly Wood reporter Dan, you're the

best.

We'll talk to you in a couple of weeks.

Till the next time.

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That's Dan Feinberg.

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You know, who else is awesome?

And there it is.

It's the Esmeralda Leon theme song.

And that's when we talk to Esmeralda.

Hi, Esmeralda.

Hello.

How are you?

I'm doing good.

How are you?

You know, good.

Good.

Very good.

Yeah.

Excited about, I'm getting weirdly excited for different reasons about the Oscars.

Because like, you know, the Oscars, they never really pick the movies that I like over

the years.

I mean, that's just kind of a common thing.

They never, and in my opinion, they very, very, very, very rarely give the awards to

the people and the movies that deserve them.

Right.

So, but it's, it's getting, it's getting a little weird out there now with all the stuff

that's happening in, like, you know, Timothy's, Timothy, my boy, Timothy Shalamet, made

a joke about ballet and opera.

I'm sure you've heard about that.

Oh, yeah.

No, yeah.

He's, he's, he tricked us all.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

He, he, he, I, okay, he's really a douchey bro.

Well, yeah.

I don't necessarily agree with that, but yeah, he's definitely on this path now leading

to, like, like, come on, dude.

What are you doing?

And it all started with, when, when, I mean, when he started dating a Kardashian, I was

like, oh, man, come on, yeah.

But I saw the interview, I watched the entire interview, of course I did, because it's Matthew

McConaughey and Timothy Shalamet, you know what I mean, like, I'm, how am I not gonna

watch that?

Right.

And it was a really off-handed, like, it wasn't even like, it wasn't like, he made

a statement.

He was fucking around and it came out and it was, it wasn't, it was complete after

thought and then he went, oh, man, and he set it on the air, he's like, oh, man, I just,

you know, but he grew up in that area, in that whole arena.

His mother is a dancer, his father wasn't, you know, worked in the opera.

So he's like, saying it from an opinion that he's like, he was, just, he grew up with

it and he was tired of it.

So I don't necessarily, but he was like, the timing on this could not be worse.

Like, now, because the voting ended on the fifth for the Academy Awards, and this shit

broke right around that time.

So I don't know if it's gonna affect whether or not he gets the award, because now everybody's

talking about how Michael, Michael B. Jordan is gonna get it for sinners, which I think

is ridiculous.

But so there's that.

So there's, that's now a big thing.

Now, the, and the whole sinners train is now starting where like, everybody's talking

about how sinners is gonna win everything and I'm like, what the fuck, you know, I'm

like, so I have a vested interest in, in the Academy Awards, just so I can yell and

flip tables of sinners beats one bad left or another.

So that's, but, but anyway, yeah, so Timothy put his foot, put his foot in his mouth.

I don't think it's as bad as ever, because I, I saw the interview and it was a complete

aside.

I mean, I didn't know, like, when he said it, I was like, oh, man, what a dumb, and then

McConaughey was like, ha, ha, you know, and it was just, it was, and of course, social

media blows it up out of proportion.

He's a dick.

He said this.

He hates, he hates, he hates ballet.

That's not at all what happened.

And the fact is he grew up in it, you know, his mother's a fucking dancer.

So anyway, but now he may have sabotaged his chances again.

Second year in a row where he's not gonna, he's not gonna, you don't look right here.

Fuck.

There was also that thing he said about how people who brag about being child free and how

that's bleak.

So.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then you know, people were mad because like, what was it last year when he won, I don't

know if it was the globe or the sag award, he won an award for, for the Dylan movie last

year.

Mm-hmm.

And he said that he's like, he strives to be the best and he wants to be greatness and

he wants greatness and blah, blah, blah, blah, people are like, why would a dick?

I was like, yeah.

So I don't know.

Anyway, my point is that like, I think this was, has been blown way out of proportion.

He said some stupid shit in the past, but this, this is the thing that people are really

latching onto.

Oh, he hates the operating eights, but that's not what he said.

But anyway, I think he's a great actor.

He might be, you know, turning into a dick and hanging out with Kardashians too much.

That's fine.

But, but he's amazing in Marty's Supreme.

Like he's fucking great in it.

It's a great performance.

So, anyway, but it'll be interesting to see what happens, and it'll be fun to talk about

at the museum with Rick Cokett, and I'm sure he'll have, he'll have some shit to say

about that.

So, yeah.

At the live event.

And by the way, if you got to come out, museum of broadcast communications, this Sunday

noon to 2 30, we're going to talk about the Oscars, we're going to talk about my book,

40 years, 40 films, and I'll be signing copies of my book.

It's going to be a meet and greet.

It's going to be great.

It's at the museum of broadcast communications.

It's never been there.

It'll be.

And Rick Cokett is the host, so it's going to be great.

And I'm sure that the Timothy stuff will come up as well.

And then now, and this is not going to affect anything, but Jesse Buckley is the favorite

to win Best Actress for screaming and crying in hamnet for an hour and a half.

And this fucking bride movie, only made, did you hear what disaster it was at the weekend

for the box office?

I did not.

$7 million, it costs 90.

It means $7 million.

So this isn't going to affect Jesse Buckley at all, but had it come out a little bit earlier,

this could have done something because the movie's terrible, she's not good, and it made

$7 million.

But that's all going to be erased by next Sunday, by this Sunday, I should say.

But it's funny because, you know, we were, Tom Hosh was on the podcast last week.

As a guest, and we talked about some, he's, he loves to talk about bad movies.

So I have mine like once a month to talk about bad movies.

And so we did that, but we also talked about the last time somebody like released a movie

that was so terrible that it affected them winning an Oscar.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, so, like, so like the bride is awful.

Have you seen the, you didn't see the bride did you?

Because nobody did.

I have not.

You're in the majority.

Let me just say that.

Um, so the bride comes out and it's, it's fucking awful and she's bad in it.

It's a terrible movie and she's bad in it.

And it comes out like right when she's like about to win the Academy Award.

And I was trying to think when was the last time somebody released a really terrible movie

with an awful performance in it that may have affected them winning an Academy Award?

And Tom was like immediately, he goes, Norbert.

Yeah, I don't, do you remember Norbert as well?

Yeah.

So Norbert with Eddie Murphy, people don't know, it's, it's a horrible movie.

I mean, as bad as it gets and it was during that whole time when Eddie Murphy, every

Eddie Murphy movie had to have him played, you know, 27 different roles with all the

makeup and stuff.

And Norbert is horrible.

And Norbert came out in late January of 2007, um, what went right at the height of voting.

And at that time Eddie Murphy was the favorite to win the Best Supporting Actor Award for

Dreamgirls.

And people are like, he Norbert did it.

You know what I mean?

Like, Norbert came out and people went, well, I'm not going to vote for that fucking guy.

And then Alan Arkin won for Little Miss Sunshine.

So I don't think Jesse Buckley Norbert did her movie or her Oscar.

But I think that, uh, I think that maybe audibly Timothy Chalamet Norbert did his Oscar.

So anyway, um, yeah, what are you going to do Oscars?

So, um, are you planning on watching the Oscars?

Um, maybe I think so, I'm going to meet up with friends and watch, not sure yet.

Okay.

All right.

Cool.

All right.

Well, uh, it should be, it should be, it should be interesting.

Conan is the host.

He was fucking great last year and, uh, and, and you know, it's really funny is that he's

in one of the movies this year.

So, uh, you know, uh, he's in, if I had legs, I'd kick you and, um, so it'll be fun for

him to like, I'm sure in the monologue he's going to be like, I'm rooting for Rose Byrne,

you know, he's has to, you know, right.

So I'm like, why wasn't I nominated?

I'm assuming that he's going to do a bit about him not being nominated, not being nominated.

So, um, but anyway, yeah, it should be, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

Um, but I, you know, if this, uh, you know, I can understand like Timothy, like, you

know, orbiting his, his Oscars because he, the timing of it was not good.

Um, but like, if sinners wins over one battle after another, my god, I mean, I mean, you

know, uh, Paul Thomas Anderson, you, as you know, is like my favorite.

Mm-hmm.

He's been nominated 14 times between directing and writing and stuff.

He's never, he's never wanting, he's never wanting to ask her.

And if he doesn't win in Ryan Kugler, does TV's are going to be thrown through Windows.

So just saying, you'll hear me screaming off from the south side.

You'll, you will hear me yelling.

So anyway, all right.

Uh, what'd you do this weekend?

Anything spectacular or crazy or weird?

No, just hung out.

Yeah.

Okay.

Nothing crazy.

You watch anything on the, uh, on the YouTubes or the, not the YouTubes, the tubies.

Um, no, funny enough.

Didn't really watch anything out of the ordinary.

Okay.

Um, so how do you feel about, uh, uh, uh, daylight saving time?

What are your thoughts on it?

I enjoy the, the, the one where you go back more than the forward.

Yes.

Only because you get another hour, but I do enjoy that the sun is now out for another

hour.

Yes.

I, I, I agree with that.

I agree with that.

I, yeah, the, the whole losing and now, because it's, but now I will say this,

though, for the most part, okay.

Here's, here's a general question that I've been asking people.

Mm hmm.

Now, uh, you don't really have to worry about moving, like, changing your clocks

ahead.

A lot of people don't have, like a lot of people's, the, the, the,

the clocks at least in, for me, the clocks that I have are, are automated.

Yeah, they kind of move ahead.

So I'm back in the 70s.

We'd be like, all right, we got to fucking do it.

You know, climb up on a chair and do it to, uh, you did do it to a T, you know,

you had to keep an eye on it.

But I mean, now you just, you go to bed and then it changes on its own.

Right.

So did you have any clocks that you had to move that you had to, um, the microwave,

the oven, yeah, that's it.

Yeah, yeah, that, yeah.

I mean, in my place, I have, uh, I have a clock, I, I still have a clock radio

because I'm old, but I like it.

It's one of those clock radios that I've had a very long time.

So I have like, kind of a sentimental attachment to it.

You know what I mean?

Mm hmm.

But there's no need for it.

I don't need a fucking clock radio.

I have a phone, you know, but, but I happen to really, like,

this clock radio, you know, so it's old.

So I have that and I have my stove and my oven.

And that's it.

But man, back in the, I remember we used to like have, you know, clocks in every

room, back in the seventies, you have to change all the, it was a fucking

pain in the neck, but now it's like, it's an outside.

But now now, how long, how long did you do traffic?

Uh, for a couple of years, about four years.

So did you notice, because I've heard from other traffic reporters and

stuff, and I think we may have talked about this, um, you know, when you,

when we were together on my show, um, but I understand that like, like today,

like as we record this, it's Monday morning.

It's the Monday morning after we turned the clocks ahead after the daylight

saving time.

Um, and from what I understand, there are people drive more eradically,

people are later and there are more accidents on the Monday and Tuesday,

immediately following a time change.

Oh, so this was something that, uh, that was brought up.

We used to talk about it in the air.

Um, but do you remember, did you, do you, do you remember, like reporting

an increase in, in crashes the day after, uh, the time change?

I mean, I couldn't tell you, I mean, I've heard that statistic that,

it's not very good for our health, right?

That we do go forward an hour like that.

Yeah.

From what I understand, like people like, uh, you know, probably as we speak,

there's people slamming into trees and shit or like causing car accidents or,

you know, or, uh, kind of, and there's also like more road rage evidently.

Uh, yeah, I could see that you lose an hour of sleep.

Yeah, and you're all fucked up for a few days easily.

Like I was, it was, what was really weird was like, we had a very lazy, uh,

Julian, I had a very lazy Sunday yesterday.

Uh, and that doesn't mean that me and Andy Sandberg went to go see Chronicles of

Nernia, because that's in my head when I hear lazy Sunday.

That's the first thing I think.

But we had a very, and yet for some reason, she had like, um, a brunch thing that

she had to go to, like, not had to, but she, she and her cousins, they do like a

yearly, hey, let's get together kind of a thing.

Mm-hmm.

And she did that.

And I just kind of chilled out.

I watched SNL from the night.

Did you watch SNL with gasoline at all?

I did not.

There's great stuff in it.

If you're interested, it's, there's some funny stuff.

But anyway, so I did nothing.

I literally did nothing yesterday.

I would stand in her place, didn't go anywhere.

I walked a dog twice.

That was it, but that doesn't require anything.

You put shoes on and you walked in.

So I walked a dog twice.

I didn't do shit.

And around 8.58, 15, we were going to like maybe watch something on TV.

And I was like, man, I'm, I'm, I'm wiped.

And I did nothing.

I did nothing.

I literally like sat and did nothing.

And I was like, I was annihilated at like 8.30 at night.

So I guess it does have some sort of, you know,

some sort of effect.

Well, it's also a Sunday.

Yeah, you know, people usually,

Sundays, the, got to get ready for the, the week day, right, right.

So I could see that also, but man, adding to it, yeah.

Did you have any issues with the time change?

And everything was, you know, nope.

I was fine with it.

Yeah.

Have you ever in the past had issues with the time change?

Like when you get that extra hour, um, you know, in October,

uh, used to go out and like, yeah, man, we can party till three.

And it'll only be two.

Did that.

Um, I mean, it usually what would happen when I was at the bar working.

Yeah.

We would, you know, there's the decision like, do you stay open or do you

stick with the old schedule open?

We usually would stay open.

Mm-hmm.

I bet people were appreciative of that.

Right.

Yeah.

Uh, yeah.

And then the, and then the opposite of it, you know, like when you,

when you, when you lose that hour, um, like bars are like, what do they do?

While we got to close, you know, cause it's, yeah.

See, you lose an hour at tips if you're a bartender, um, because that you can't,

you really can't stay open.

Yeah, it's legal unless you kind of the time is, you know, yeah.

Let's four o'clock unless you got a four-clock license, obviously.

But, uh, but still, even then, you normally, you'd be open till five and you got to close or you, or, you know, anyway.

Well, it's all, uh, it's, it's, but it's, it's weird that like, um, it did have, I mean, I didn't,

like I said, I did nothing and it affected me.

Yeah.

I was a fucking bomb yesterday.

I was, I was, I did nothing.

And I'm like, like eight, thirty.

I'm like, man, I'm ready to go to sleep.

I don't know.

But back in the old days, man, oh, man, I would be out, you know, getting that extra hour in October.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So there you go.

You would, maybe it's just from all that.

That's probably what your body's like, oh, it's time.

Yeah.

That's true.

I mean, with the amount of damage I've done to my body, I'm, I'm, I'm astonished that, you know,

that the, the first time I went into the hospital and I, when I first got sober back in 2015,

I ended up in the hospital blah, blah, blah, but they ran a whole bunch of tests and I was convinced,

like, they're going to go, you need a new liver.

You know what I'm, right.

And they were like, nah, there's no damage.

And I was like, what?

There's like your, your liver's a little bit fatty, but outside of that, you're good.

You didn't do any, and I'm like, what the fuck?

So I was astonished at how, you know, my liver stood up to all the nonsense that I did

to it over the years.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

But I remember also working on the week when I used to work on the weekends for all,

you know, all the years that I did weekends and fillings on GM, I did overnight.

When you did the overnight on the weekends during the time change, like in October,

you'd have to do another hour, you know, like you, I mean, like everything.

But they never fucking booked commercials, like they never sold that hour.

So you have an extra hour in the middle of the night when there are barely any commercials

anyway, when aren't as many commercials.

And I'm, and we had to do it out with nothing, like there were no, like the log had nothing.

Like you looked at the log, there was nothing on it.

I'd be like, you guys, there is an extra hour here.

So there was always like ridiculous, like we would have to do a full hour with no commercials.

Yeah.

And so instead of doing five hours, we would do six on the overnight, unlike a Saturday

end of Sunday.

And then it wouldn't take, it would have to, we'd have to wait all the way till,

you know, to March to catch that up.

So, but anyway, yeah.

All right.

Well, a couple of weird traditions that I wanted to mention to you.

That see what you think of them.

This one I find pretty funny.

Someone says, I'll never understand why we choose to salute the great women and men who

died defending our freedom with half price mattress sales.

That seems to be that they do have on veterans day.

Yeah, they have that.

Yeah, the every, I mean,

we say, especially mattress stories, the advantage of every holiday.

Yeah.

Deal.

Yes.

Well, thanks, mattress.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, we only, we need sleep, you know, year round, but for some reason,

like it's veterans day and, and presidents day is a big mattress.

You know, like it's a, it's a big selling day.

Like, hey, we're going to have the president's day sale.

Like maybe because like the old, the old, uh, um, saying the Washington slept here thing.

Maybe I don't know.

I've never heard that.

Yeah, Washington slept here.

Was it, was it a thing?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Like you would, I think it was like when, when you first,

like, when they first started doing tours of like, um,

like, I don't know if it was like if it was DC or what?

I don't know.

When they first started doing tours, historical tours, one of the things was they

would, there'd be a sign like if you went into like where Washington grew up or

something, there was a sign that said Washington slept here.

And then that became a catchphrase, like in the 70s, 60s and 70s.

I don't really know what it means.

It just means that like somebody important was here.

Uh-huh.

So I guess if you say, hey, Washington slept here, that means that like,

it's an important place because Washington slept there.

I don't know.

Right.

Yeah.

But it's a, it's a phrase that, that, that was reasonably not, you know,

what it wasn't like everybody said it every day, but it was reasonably, you know,

common thing was to hear.

So I've never heard it.

Uh, all right, half price mattress sales.

How about this one?

Here's a tradition that people want us, that somebody wants to stop.

Can we stop with the hello air kiss, with the lean to the left cheek and

lean to the right cheek and do the fake kiss?

Who does that?

I only see it like on talk shows or, you know what I mean?

Or, yeah, that's not a real, real people don't do that.

Yeah.

People don't do that, I guess.

Yeah, when people I hang out with don't do that.

Oh, kind of.

Yeah, that's like some movie TV show rich people thing.

Yeah, maybe it is rich people in real life.

I don't know.

I don't hang out with rich people.

Um, but it, but it isn't for sure it's on talk shows.

Like, I mean, I see it on, I mean, especially on like, um, um, Graham Norton,

the, like, when Graham Norton brings people out, it's the kiss side decide thing.

Everybody who comes out, maybe it's a bit more of a British thing.

I don't know, I mean, I know and like, Italy and stuff.

But I think they actually give you a kit.

They do.

Yeah.

This is like the old air.

Yeah, this is the open on the sides.

Yeah, that seems different from that.

It seems more disingenuine.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, in Italy, they'll grab you a little kiss you.

Hey, hugging, you know, that kind of stuff, squeeze your cheeks and shit, you know,

right.

But this is kind of in the picture that they have as an example of it is shockingly

two white ladies with lots of jewelry kissing, doing a kiss on the side of the,

on the side of the cheeks.

So, all right.

And here's the last one for, for today.

Um, they, people want to stop the no white after Labor Day thing.

Uh, I honestly don't think people listen to that anymore.

Yeah, that's, do you wear white after Labor Day?

Uh, I don't really wear white.

Oh, okay.

Summer lasts way past Labor Day in much of the US.

Isn't it time that we do away with the arbitrary rules about things as trivial as

clothing?

This is what the person says.

So let's not do the no white after Labor Day thing.