Nick Reed 09.03.26 - AOTW, Thune & His Bad Attitude, and MORE.

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3:08And you know, it is such great timing. It seems as if over the last week or so. I've talked about both the feminization of men on the show and Christianity and the relatively docile personality trait sometimes in Christianity in America. So I love the idea behind this book. And if you would tell us a bit about what made you decide to write it? Well, after 2020, I kind of saw a lot of things going on as many people did in our nation. And to me, a lot of it traced back to an inherent weakness in modern Christianity and a weakness that situates itself with men and modern Christianity and how modern Christianity is taught men, certain traits and values, which inherently lead to almost a cowardly pacifistic posture in the face of very evil forces in our world. So coming from kind of an academic background, wherever it is on these kinds of things, anthropology,

4:08theological anthropology, you know, study the Bible, I'm a pastor and boulder. I'm on kind of the front line, seeing the stuff play out. I'm trying to wake up the church, to live more courageously, particularly men, to live more courageously against the evil forces we see in our nation. What do you think has caused or been so successful at causing this evolution away from the traditional, what I would say is the healthy masculinity to what it has become today? Yeah, there's a lot of places we could try to place blame. Obviously, when we look at God's word, we can see a similar temptation playing out today that played out in the garden with Adam standing passively by while his wife, Eve was tempted by the servant. So the perennial temptation for men is to remain passive and not speak up and not defend, not protect, when evil rears its head. There's a lot of people who want to place blame on the sexual revolution and of course, we can look back on that

5:08with grief in terms of the fruit it is born in our nation and in the lives of people around us. But a lot of it comes down to me for the recent kind of mode of the church, kind of the operation of the church to be secret sensitive in the last 30 to 40 years, where the church really didn't take on a posture of we're here to worship the Lord God, we're here to disciple people in godliness and righteousness and holiness. Instead, it made the entire purpose of the church one of almost a business. It was kind of a market approach to Christianity, trying to make the Christian message more palatable to those who are lost and those outside the church. And so the message is kind of got dumbed down, the distinctives of Christianity got de-emphasized. Instead, it was actually one which you actually hear from liberal churches. It became a Christianity and evangelicalism of tolerance and inclusivity. And so if you see these churches all over the nation and many of them are very large and I have nothing against large churches that's not a problem in and of itself,

6:08but a lot of their tactics and strategies have been to de-emphasize the need for salvation in Jesus Christ, that salvation can only come through Christ alone. And our requisite obedience out of that, that Jesus taught us that we love him, we will obey everything he has commanded. And instead, it's become one which is basically like, Jesus can make your life better. And it's become kind of self-help talks, therapeutic. The worship is typically very man-centered, meaning it's focused on kind of our therapeutic needs, our felt needs, instead of glorifying and worshiping the Lord God. Is this a fair characterization that the way you're describing this, you have churches that think, all right, in order to bring in the non-Christian, we need to take a soft approach. They bring in the non-Christian, but instead of then, okay, once you're in, now we're going to get to the real lesson here. We're going to get to the real purpose. They stay soft. It's almost as if instead of assimilating the newbies, if you will, the newbies have a

7:10assimilated some of these churches. That's exactly right. So there's kind of fancy words you can talk about with any of this. There's strategies that's happened in the Christian Academy in seminaries, Bible colleges, all this kind of stuff, ways to justify this approach. But yes, basically what happens is instead of actually reaching the loss, the loss reached the church. And so some authors, my friend Megan Basham, has written a great book called Shepherds for Sale. And she talks about it how many pastors have basically been trying to feed, instead of feeding the sheep, they've been trying to feed the wolves. And they've made the kind of diet of the sheep. They've stripped down the diet of the sheep, meaning God's word and feeding them and discipling them and truth and godliness. And said they've tried to make it such that they twist the Bible in order to appease people who are not actually Christian. And so these people come into the church, they have certain temperaments, a famous illustration of my world, comes from a famous

8:10pastor in New York City, Tim Keller, who he had people coming to his church, seemed to be a great success story in New York City. And yet there were people in his church that had never been taught on fundamental issues related to marriage and homosexuality and abortion and what the Bible says about these things. And they only found out years later. And so it's almost like a bait in switch many times, many Christians have been duped into thinking that in order to evangelize, you've got to hide the controversial parts of or what are perceived to be controversial parts of Christianity in order to appease the lost. And they've been keeping that back and essentially cruel and not honest with people because you're not being truthful with what we believe is Christians, with what Christians have always believed with what the Bible teaches. And instead those people actually very disenchanted and frustrated that, wait a second, I thought I was coming to this tolerant and inclusive church and yet you guys are very solid on the Bible. And this is what the Bible teaches, what happened here. And they become very disillusioned with Christianity. So you see a lot

9:12of deconstruction come out of that. You see a lot of what they call church hurt or the perceived church hurt. And so yeah, it's a very odd aptitude these churches have taken on in evangelicalism, but it's been saturating Christianity in America for gosh 30, 40, 50 years. And I trace it back in my book over kind of 300 years of philosophy. You know, my dad read my book and he said that was the most boring chapter. My friends who are academics read that chapter and they love that chapter. But I go through kind of six kind of streams of philosophy that have eroded the strength of men in our modern age. They're trying to diagnose and give people an understanding of how men have been essentially hollowed out as the way CS Lewis talked about. They've been hollowed out today. They've been gilded to where they don't really seem to have the vigor, the vitality necessary to speak up, speak out and stand on God's word. We're talking with our author the week, Chase Davis, the book of Fence of Christianity, Restoring the Strength of Men and Affeminized Age.

10:13What do you say to people that whether they're maybe seeking out a new church or maybe they've been going to the same church for a while. I know you've got to take everything on the whole, but are there what you would call red flags or warning signs? Like if you're going to this church and you're starting to hear this sort of messaging that that's that's not a good sign. Yeah, so typically what you're looking for the big cultural flashpoints that contradict Christianity today. So it's going to be how does the church speak about homosexuality? How does it speak about divorce? How does it speak about these matters from the pulpit? Does the church have any stances on cultural issues that are very, very, not controversial, biblically, but very hot today? For example, does the church have anything to say about abortion? And then the next step you would want to take is just asking and doing so in the sincere heart and all looking to get anyone, but just asking sincerely, hey, if I wanted to get into anti-abortion ministry, if I wanted to do

11:15something to get kind of activated into like stopping this in our town or in our state, when the church had my back, when the church either, you know, provide me with, does the church already have a ministry that does this? Do we partner with it? A pregnancy resource center, do anything like that? I want to get involved with that. And if they really are squeamish on those kind of things, that's going to be a telltale sign. You know, for me growing up, I remember churches would often take away their denominational affiliation. This is also kind of a telltale sign of a secret sensitive church. And I'm not going to speak. Our church name is called the Well Church, but we were never like first Baptist church holder, okay? We planted in 2011. But many times these churches would drop their denominational distinctives. Why are they doing that? Well, in some parts of the nation, Baptist, for example, has a bad reputation, I guess. And so they're trying to play down their distinctives in order to do mass market appeal. And so you're looking for that. You're looking for what? What is the purpose of Lord's Day worship? Just ask the church, what are we doing on Sunday mornings? Is it mainly like a revival and evangelistic opportunity on Sunday mornings?

12:19Are we here to give glory and honor and worship the living God? And so those are kind of some key areas that you would want to investigate and inquire. Of course, with a sincere heart, good faith questions, because pastors are under a lot of pressure already. But those are legitimate questions that need to be asked in many churches. Is it an oversimplification to see this as part of the approach problem churches when they become more interested in marketing themselves as opposed to marketing God? And it's probably marketing is not the best word to use. But they're more worried about what people will think about them as opposed to making sure that they understand God. Absolutely. I mean, this is a huge problem in my book. I talk about it. And this mind said, many, many churches and even Christians, we don't just want to place blame on the church. The church is God's bride. We can think of the kind of Christian attitude. It's almost as if even Gehlykul have in their mind that they've got to be the PR agent for this God of the Bible,

13:20who sometimes appears very angry and he is a God of justice and wrath in many places. And rightfully so he's holy and perfect in all his ways. And so many times as Christians there's this attitude where we've got to do kind of some PR coaching and we've got to represent God. Well, I can think of an illustration in my town when it kind of came out in the local press that we stood against, gay marriage, we stood against abortion, this kind of thing. We were called all sorts of names in the local newspaper. And I thought to kind of a local mega church pastor and he said his suggestion was we need to start a whole campaign build a website called Love Boulder. We need to do more to serve our city in order to have better PR out there, which on its face isn't a bad idea. We didn't end up doing that. But that's kind of the basic instinct I think a lot of Christians feel is if the world calls them bad names, if the world slanders us and reviles us, it's not that we should rejoice like the scriptures say, like Jesus teaches us. Instead the idea is that we should really change our messaging. We should just kind of tweak a little few things, change our branding

14:24so that people don't think mean things about us. And that's what I'm trying to encourage people in my boat, particularly men, is that the world is going to call you mean names, the world already thinks if you're a Christian evangelical man, the world thinks you're this awful person, this kind of ork that's come out of Lord of the Rings. And we don't need to go to great length to necessarily dispel them of these kind of slanderous perceptions, but we need to remain strong and courageous and really be unbothered by these accusations while standing on God's word and remaining confident in God's word. Well, and perhaps I should have led with this question and you talk about it's not necessarily a bad idea to have successful messaging because you want to be successful in communicating with people, but they hear the term offensive and the instinct is, well that's a turn off. How are you ever going to be able to win people over if you are overtly offensive? What do you mean by offensive in the title of offensive Christianity? Yeah, great question. Two things I would say to

15:28that one, the book title is meant to be read one of two ways. So offensive means anytime you go on offense, we're going on offense for Jesus Christ. The church and evangelicals have typically had kind of an attitude of ghettoization, like kind of settling for carveouts in our world with religious freedom and all these kind of things. As long as we can worship God in our churches and our homes, it really doesn't matter how the world goes. This is not what we see. The biblical narrative teaching us. Instead, we see we're supposed to go out into the nations and to the world, make disciples baptized. We're supposed to go on offense. And the challenge that evangelicals need to face is that when you go on offense for Christ, when you preach the gospel for claimist truth, seek to advance the cause of Christ in any domain, any discipline, people that are opposed to God will perceive that offensively. That's just natural reality. So if you've got momentum on your side, you're driving the ball down the field in a football game. The defense is not going to like that. And that is what Christians have been called to do. We are called to go on offense for Christ. And of course, the other way offensive, meaning people are going to be upset by it. I think there's messages in the Bible.

16:33There's truth in the Bible, which are naturally offensive. We just look at the passages in the Bible, which speak about the gospel itself, being an offense. And this is what scares me for many Christians that Jesus teaches. If we're ashamed of Christ, if we're ashamed of him, then he will be ashamed of us. And that's not where we want to end up. We want to end up in a place where we hear at the end of our life well done, good and faithful servant. And so we have to embrace the offense of the gospel. The gospel says that we are sinners and we need salvation and we can't see ourselves that Jesus needed to be sent. The Son of God needed to be sent to save us from our sins. That itself is an offensive message. Now many Christians are going to settle and say, that's good and well. And I see that biblically. And I'm fine with that offense. But all these other things are going to be matched are going to be offensive to our world when we stand up for the truth of God about sexuality. Why should I be strong courageous on sexuality? Why can't I compromise a little on that in order to not cause offense to maybe get them to the gospel itself? And my answer to that is

17:34look, we shouldn't be ashamed of anything in God's word. We should be courageous on everything in God's word. We should stand firm in our foundation in Jesus Christ. And so by doing that, you will be perceived as offensive. So it's not so much a marketing tactic to we need to instead of embracing an inoffensive Christianity, which is widespread in our nation. We have to embrace an offensive Christianity by which they would they would mean and I don't mean this in my title. We have to be rude. We have to be inhospitable. You know, all this kind of stuff. No, I'm just saying, look, we need to be courageous Christians, particularly men because men are called the lead in these ways. We're called to protect and provide. And we need to embrace these things. We need to forward the cause of Christ in very practical ways in our lives. Our author of the week sponsored by ABC Books on North Gleinstone, it chased Davis again, the book offensive Christianity restoring the strength of men in a feminized age for Springfield's talk. 1041. I'm Nick Reed.

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21:57admitted during the interview that he thinks there's a chance Democrats may also take the Senate. Yeah, I'm a realist. And that's just the way that it is. Now, of course, John Thune has been responsible for a Senate as Senate leader in not getting among other things a save act. And just that out of the gate, 80% of Americans consistently supported. Including a majority of Democrats. If you're the leader of a Senate and you cannot manage to get through something that is universally across party line supported by the American people, you're a loser. You're just are. If you, if you cannot figure out why, well, you know, you got to understand I can't this person does this and that person. Yeah, see that, but that's where leadership comes in. You lead. And if you are unable to lead, then you're not a leader. And if you are unable to win at things consistently, then you are a loser.

23:06These are just definitions that identify specific behavior. And these are specific behaviors we see from John Thune. When it comes to the, and losing being a loser isn't simply about results, its attitude. And John Thune is demonstrating one of the reasons that Donald Trump became as popular as he did and ended up being handed control of the Republican Party by voters. And that was because he was giving Republican voters what they had for a very long time been desperate for. And many of them may not have even realized it. And that was somebody with a winning attitude. My entire adult life prior to Trump with a few rare exceptions.

24:12I had been told as a Republican voter about all the reasons we couldn't do certain things. Now his whole campaign time, he got elect us so we can get all these things done. It's so important. We got to get these things done. But then once they got in there, we were always told why they couldn't do it. Always. You know, give us power. We'll do it. Oh, well, okay, you gave us power. But what you got to understand, you know, there are some Republicans that, you know, they just won't get online. And, you know, we just don't have enough votes. Oh, so they give you control and you'll get it done. Thing wasn't exactly true. Or well, you got to understand you got, well, if we do that, we may lose the next election. If we push something that radical, we might lose. It was always about fear and explaining why it is that they can't get meaningful things accomplished.

25:12The one exception of my adult lifetime was the contract with America 104th Congress, Newt Gingrich, in which there was a listing of things the Newt Gingrich said, you put us in power and we will bring up for a vote every one of these things, every one of them. And I believe it was Paul Harvey at one point who had quipped that it was the first time in history that an entire listing of promises has been, had been made by people writing for office that they actually fulfilled 100%. Now, all of those things did not become law, but the promise was that every one of those things, if Republicans got control, every one of them would be brought up for a vote. And it was done. Aside from that, there was the entire government shutdown and eventually Clinton would give in and agree to some meaningful reforms. And Newt Gingrich,

26:19once at, I believe it was a CPAC event, talked about when he very first got elected to Congress. And leadership would get all the freshmen together and go over the lay of the land. And out of the gate, he talked about how he was told as a Republican, you just have to understand we're not going to be, you know, all of these, these lofty dreams you have, you're going to learn that you're not actually going to be able to get them done because when it came particularly running that period of time in the House, Democrats had controlled things for so long. Republicans had just this complete loser attitude of just get used to it. This is the way it is. And Newt Gingrich had reflected back on it and said, that's unacceptable. We don't have to be this way. And he would rise to Speaker and he would get a lot of very meaningful things done. With the exception of that, as a Republican voter, I've constantly been told why it is that they can't get this done,

27:22can't get that done. loser attitude. It's just disgustingly uninspiring. Every time I think about this or dare I say dwell on it, I just imagine the absurdity of implementing that sort of messaging at half time during a football game when the the team that is the central character of the film is down. They're getting slaughtered. In fact, the girl child had some, I don't even know what the movie was. It was some with the rock and I don't know. He had a bunch of inner city youths and a football team and all. You know, it's a standard sort of inspirational deal. And you know, these films are synonymous with that half time locker locker room pep talk and inspiration. And it doesn't matter how far down you are,

28:29you fight for every single inch. And as long as we do it, we have a chance at this thing. And the Republican position, the Republican so-called leadership is telling its players out there and its fans in the stands, hey, just so you know, we're probably, you know, it just got to be realistic about this. They're better than us. You're losers. You know, inspiration actually goes a long way when you are wanting to, this kills me because of the impact it has on voter turnout. You don't activate people by suppressing their excitement or their hopes. You don't activate people by telling them, and we're probably going to lose anyway. That does not inspire people to get out to vote. You get people out to vote

29:32to have faith in you to having excitement in you by encouraging them to understand, even if it appears unlikely, this is possible. We can do this. It may be historic. It may go against history. It may go against the patterns. And we know we've got an uphill battle, but by gosh, if every one of us joins together, we all get out there and we fight for this thing. We understand the importance of it. We can win this thing. We can not only retain power, but we could actually potentially pick up a couple of, I know what the polls say, I know what the pundits say, I know what the election cycles say, I get it, but I'm telling you, the moments in history that people reflect back on are the moments in which the unexpected occurred, the moments in which the underdog defied all expectations. Let's not forget this is a political party that on election day, the New York Times had Hillary Clinton winning by 98%. I mean, you know,

30:32in terms of the likelihood of her winning, the completely unrealistic expectations have been obtained by this political party. That is the speech of a leader and a winner. It doesn't mean it always works. It doesn't mean it always wins or that you always win. But it is certainly and has certainly been demonstrated to be much more successful than just walking around like E or and constantly telling the people that you rely on to get out and vote for you and your party. Well, you know, God be realistic. Probably not going to win this thing. I just don't understand what is wrong with these people. This is the thing that's crazy about it. This is not a secret formula. This is not some sort of a secret skill that no one has really figured out whether it

31:40works or not or how it impacts the scope of things. This is all pretty common stuff. When you are inspirational, when you focus on winning, when you focus on what we can do, no matter how hard it is, that is inspiring. That is the thing that makes people win. That is what drives teams to win. That is what drives your supporters to want to get out there and feel like we have a chance of this thing. Yet you have these people that somehow manage to ascend to leadership positions that do the exact opposite. They mimic the behavior of losers. It's kind of a funny thing when you look at how the Republicans rightfully so mock Democrats lack of interest in merit. The entire DEI deal how they will hire people for positions that have zero,

32:44actual experience or demonstrations of success in the field that they are giving jobs in. That is mocked. Rightfully so, it is recognized as a recipe for failure. Meanwhile, the Republican Party seems to understand the importance of putting people in leadership positions that actually have a track record of being good leaders. Yet they just decide not to do it. They are like, oh no, we know the importance of merit. We understand the steps that are necessary in order to increase the likelihood that you will win. We just choose not to do that. It is so gross, it's so pathetic. It's such a pansy-ass thing to see. It just disgusts me. This loser attitude, I'd rather lose a thousand times over with someone who has a winning attitude.

33:48Then this lukewarm milk toast pathetic, whining about how it probably won't win anyway. I'll probably wait. Can you donate some money so we can go out there and I guess lose. Springfields talk 101. I'm Nick Reed. Sarah Miles, I'm a well. You, the Pyramid Roofing Company. If it's been a while since you've had your roof checked, now is the time to do it, especially before fall hits, which I know it feels like it's going to be a while, but hey, we are slowly making our way to the fall months. That being said, the Pyramid team, they can help you out with all of your roof inspections because they offer free roof inspections. And if it's time for a repair or a replacement, they work with you through that insurance process every step of the way. So if it is time to have the Pyramid team out to your home, reach out to Josh today, schedule that free roof inspection. You can find all of the contact information

34:53for the Pyramid Roofing Company under the Sarah's endorsements tab at ksgf.com. There's a New York Post piece. I hope Patrick Clancy sues the resty lane out of Lisa Reina over her vile rants. She's a former actress and formerly of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And she's one of these individuals that is out there and believes that the husband did it right. And she's gone to TikTok and just flat out said he did it. Quote, all right, he did it. Patrick did it. Patrick's the one who did it. Not Lindsay. She didn't say allegedly anything at all. She said he did it because you know, I also heard that women typically don't strangle. She flat out the clarity did it. And so this New York Post piece is based around the fact that, you know, I hope the husband sues the living daylights out of her for saying this. Now people, there's generally a position that's taken by people on the left, this whole conspiracy that her husband actually did it because he's a man, you know, and they are resting comfortably in the belief that, hey, we could, this is free

35:59speech. You can't sue somebody for giving her opinion about some sort of crime that's been committed. Well, it was that way up until there was a lawsuit against a guy by the name of Alex Jones, who stated that the sandy hook shooting was a hoax. Then we decided that that freedom of speech thing no longer applied. If you were out there making claims regarding a crime that were demonstrably not true, you can get sued into oblivion. So all of those lefties out there, specifically, who want to say that they're protected by free speech from being sued by claiming that the husband committed this murder. Where were you defending Alex Jones? Oh, actually, you weren't. You were cheering on the lawsuit, weren't you? Perhaps that will come back to bite you.

36:59I want to add a couple more thoughts to the segment before last regarding Senate in name only leader of the Republicans, John Thune and local interview he gave. Yeah, going back to the standard talking points of Democrats prior to Trump and that is telling Republicans, oh, it probably lose. You got to understand why we can't win. It's the Republican establishment is just they're laying the groundwork. They're planning for the Trump air to be over and to go back to the party of losers and telling us why we can't do things that are meaningful. The good old days. I think that there is another component here and it all meshes together.

38:02I believe that many of these anti-Trump Republicans, they want to lose the House and perhaps even the Senate because they want to use it as proof that Donald Trump was bad, that Donald Trump was damaging. Of course, you have to ignore all the successes. You have to ignore all of the historic wins. You have to ignore the historic economic boom in his first term. The fact that he shut down a border in a matter of weeks that we were told by anti-Trump Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans could not be done without legislative efforts and amnesty for millions of illegals. All of the different, you know, the Abraham piece of chords, all of the piece, all of this stuff. You know, that is irrelevant. They will instead use a loss in the midterms as Trump is in his

39:04last final years to in the rear view mirror portray the Trump approach as one that inevitably results in Democrats getting in charge. I think there's a bit of an I told you so that they want to give Republican voters. We're seeing it in play in Texas. They in Texas Republicans have, these are the anti-Trump Republicans in particular, that they're refusing to spend any money or to help, packed in whatsoever. In fact, corn-eins out there essentially campaigned against them. And they're openly saying Trump's going to have to spend money down here. If Trump wants his guy to win down here, then it's up to him. He's going to have to pour the money in it because we're going to withhold it. This validates, see, in their minds, they think we're really showing the

40:09voters, but what it actually does is validate the reason that the voters have gotten rid of people like corn and because they don't care about the country, they don't care about the voters. All they care about is their power. And the minute that the voters say, you know what, we're actually looking back and realize you have not delivered on the things that you claim that you're going to deliver on. So we're going to pick someone else. They will burn the town to the ground. They will try to suppress the vote by spreading the narrative that we can't win this thing. They will withhold money. They're going to try to pin it all on trustee. And this is all about trying to prove Trump is a bad guy. That's all they care about at this point. And they wonder why it is Republicans aren't enthusiastic for the establishment wing of the Republican party. The irony, of course, it is this exact sort of behavior that created the environment for Donald

41:14Trump to rise to power. They created that monster because of this very type of behavior.